What's the best affordable driver's car on sale in Australia? Comment below. You can also read the written article here: www.whichcar.com.au/events/performance-coty/motor-sports-car-of-the-year-2022-winner-revealed

@TheDoctor46vr

2 жыл бұрын

Either the Fiesta ST or GR86. Probably the GR86 but the ST is cheaper but obviously nothing can beat the fun of a GR86.

@TheDoctor46vr

2 жыл бұрын

That's not to discredit the ST which is brilliant fun.

@ja_

2 жыл бұрын

Where are the other Sports Cars? I see a sea of hot hatches, two sports cars (Miata & BRZ), and a GT car.

@byspartanlaw

2 жыл бұрын

Suzuki Swift Sport. Missing this year, why!?

@incar95678

2 жыл бұрын

Fiesta ST?

I have the same one, it's just too good to be true. SUBARU BRZ forever.

I have a Gen 1 BRZ (well, I have the Toyota 86 version) and I fell in love the instant I drove one. It's the best handling, most engaging car I've ever driven. I haven't driven that many cars, but I have had a mustang gt, and a cobalt SS, am Acura TL type S, and I've ridden in others. I have my 86 running with headers and E-85 so I imagine it feels extremely similar in power to the Gen 2 and I tell you, I wouldn't trade this car for any other. Period. I plan on continuing to love and improve my 86 for as many years as I possibly can.

@niclash4534

2 жыл бұрын

They wont get cheaper anymore. Maintain yours well and keep it. I own an oem GT86 too btw :D

@hexen93

2 жыл бұрын

I used to mod my cars when I was a teen (29 now), and only recently after having a regular ol' sensible i30 for 5 years did I decide to bite the bullet after years of temptation. Bought a 2013 BRZ December last year, and in the short 5 months I've owned it it has immediately become my favourite car I've ever owned. I've owned/modded a lancer, commodore (VX2), s2000 and even a 300Z, and nothing comes close to the amount of fun I have in my BRZ. Gave her UEL headers, a simple catback and some coilovers w/ half decent tyres and somehow it made the car even MORE fun. Definitely the car I stick with for as long as it'll run. It's also fun waving at other 86/BRZ owners on the road too, cool little community!

@Trio3224

2 жыл бұрын

@@hexen93 I've never gotten to do a huge mod build myself and I want this to be my first. I plan on building the engine with forged internals and putting a supercharger on mine. She feels great at 200whp but I wanna see what 350-400whp feels lol

I’m Stoked for the Focus ST, we can’t get these here anymore in the US, I currently own a 2014 Fiesta ST that I bought new, it’s on a Cobb stage two tune, short shift kit, beefier motor mounts, 3” MBPR exhaust and sticky Mitchlen tires, it has 97,000+ miles on it and still runs great, I’m on my 6th set of tires, that’s how hard I drive it, my friends can’t believe I still have my stock clutch. I’m 73 years young and still love driving on three wheels. The Fiesta Flash 🤙🏼🍺🍺🍺

@Shay-eo5kp

2 жыл бұрын

You are awesome sir. I hope to be just like you when I am your age, though everything will probably be electric and self driving so yeah, the hobby will probably die by than. Keep on rocking!

@nazz2406

2 жыл бұрын

73, living through the best of the muscle car era and still Hooning your ass off, youre winning brother!!

@patlab

2 жыл бұрын

I was having the exact same car, with stage 2 too! I miss it very much . This car was the definition of « fun »

@lkg1014

2 жыл бұрын

Hope I could still enjoy driving a sport car when I was 73. Salute sir. You are amazing

@DemonHunter0069

Жыл бұрын

Can I have it

Give the person behind the camera a raise! So many beautiful shots throughout. Edit: I figured I'd give my thoughts while I'm here. Gotta say I've been struggling a lot on whether I want to put my money down on a brz/86 or a GR Yaris. My brain loves the Yaris but my heart loves the brz/86. From factory, the Yaris seems setup to perfection for endless fun and performance, but I find myself disliking the interior, mainly the infotainment setup. I also wish it came with factory options for a rally style spoiler and lip, diffuser+skirts like Tom's racing has available. The styling feels a little awkward without those touches to me. The brz/86 on the other hand I love with every fibre of being, inside and out. Its modern classic interior and refreshing body lines are unmatched for me. I'm sure there would be times I wish I had a sports car that can throw me back in my seat with boost and make me laugh from how excessive it is, but it's a beautiful machine that I know I would enjoy more from its holistic approach. It's truly a love letter to enthusiasts and the price is right. Great video 🙂

The only actual sports cars on this are the MX5 and the gt86 (in subaru trim). The 718 Cayman gt4rs is the best sports car made today.

Well that is good news. I am ordering a BRZ, S coupe, manual in WR blue this week. I know the colour is common as dirt but it says Subaru and to be honest, I like the colour. It is good value, looks stunning in my opinion and is a real sports car, front engine, rear wheel drive manual. I'm not bothered about lack of turbocharging and if you are as old as me (60) you will notice the 0 - 100kmh and the standing 400m time betters the legendary Ford XY GTHO Falcon and E49 Charger (Wheels & SCW) Sure there is a 50 odd year gap in technology and weight differences but the BRZ gives away horsepower and torque to both these Aussie icons. I can afford a BRZ, plus those seat warmers will be appreciated by me and my girl's.......um......mature bottoms🙂

@j.a.g.8689

2 жыл бұрын

you should make some videos on it, id watch it

@imanenigma3348

2 жыл бұрын

@@j.a.g.8689 I will give it some thought, but I got to tell ya, the girl's and my backsides are not what they use to be!🙂

@wayward03

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a bit jelly of all the options in this category, in the states it's just the mustang, n30, mx5, gti and brz. I wish the brz sounded a bit better but I should be picking mine up at the end of the month (ordered in February).

@imanenigma3348

2 жыл бұрын

@@wayward03 Congrats, hope delivery goes as planned for you mate. I was looking at Mustangs, but couldn't justify the $73K Aussie dollars for a new one or $60K for low mileage used. I will pay $43500 for the new top spec(S) BRZ and may be able to keep my 68 Mercury Marquis 390 Coupe to play with.......maybe?🤔 As for sound I will see what it is like, have been sussing out some exhaust vids and the ARK something? catback, sounds good. I would hate it to be too loud or droney? on the highway though.

@khronin

2 жыл бұрын

I just got a Kona N for 35k.Break in period but it can hit triple digits in ecomode 1/3 down the HWY ramp.

thank you reenforcing my confirmation bias! Taking delivery of my brz in the next couple of months!

Personally, id like to have the Ford ST's chassi, the Toyota's body control, the BMW's gearbox, the Hyundai's suspension, the Subaru's rear wheel drive, the Skoda's spaceyness, the Mazdas looks, VW's Dynamic Chassis Control, and the engine of an *Jaguar F-Type V8* to fit in small form factor! (oh heck, make it the looks of the Shaguar as well..) 😄 👍

Great video, I agree with the winner 👌 Only complaint - the Mustang Mach 1 is selling for over 100 grand which probably negates it being on this list

@motorofficial

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's a fair point, but we can't really build the rules around what dealers are getting away. It's something we can think about next year, but I suspect it is what it is. - Mike Stevens

@stefantolich2959

2 жыл бұрын

Mach 1 sold for 98k in NZ!

Well done MotorMag, wholesome, unbiased car content with great videography! Took a gamble and ordered the new BRZ last year, looks like it will pay off :) but getting one delivered is literally like waiting for your first child to be born (9 months!)

@richardhoulton4016

2 жыл бұрын

Mine got delivered last weekend. Worth the wait! Whilst you are puddling around in the break in period, the one thing that strikes you, is how comfortable and refined it is! It may be an exercise in finessing the old car, but the result is greater than the sum of the adjustments made.

@motorofficial

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks heaps, we're glad you liked it. Enjoy the BRZ!

@imanenigma3348

2 жыл бұрын

Patience grasshopper! I'm about to order mine this week, so maybe Xmas delivery for me? I don't mind as long as it lives up to expectations, which I think is a no brainer. Also, it will not be as expensive as that first child......or second.....or third!🙂

@dimsoneill

2 жыл бұрын

Not the biggest gamble mate….

@relentlesspursuit6894

2 жыл бұрын

@@dimsoneill not that you'd know - you drive a wagon 🤣

I own a FOCUS ST,and I totally agree with your analysis,it’s so much fun to drive,an underrated but fantastic hot hatch!

I have a GT86 and a Focus ST (MK3). Though not the generation in this review. But the gene of these two cars are there. GT86 is a great track day machine and sliding toy while the ST is really easy to drive with its torque but at the same time still has lots of fun for daily and country road. I have my smile on my face all the time when driving either of them.

Fantastic video, already looking forward to next years run through

Love this! All about affordable fun. Great idea

@motorofficial

2 жыл бұрын

That's the thinkin', yep!

@incar95678

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I lost interest in 'Performance Car of the Year' a long time ago ($$). 'Bang For Your Bucks' was more relevant but still flawed with measuring stats against $$ . But 'Sportscar of the Year' is exactly what needed to happen. In my opinion FUN is the most important factor. Faster, lap times, power doesn't always equal more fun. Well done MOTOR. Very happy with the BRZ win. But I might end up going for the GR86 as I suspect it will be cheaper. Pity this test didn't include a Fiesta ST.

Best crafted, most complex automotive KZread video in this year.

Ecoboost mustang or the regular gt would’ve probably made more sense than the Mach 1

How very well presented, filmed and edited. Really good job and enjoyable to watch. I have a GR and a Golf R, so am biased but concur with your views and thoughts. Thanks

Not surprised with number 1. I have a 2014 Scion FR-S, it’s great once you fix the torque dip. Tuned, e-85, UEL, and Tomi exhaust. With more mods to come

My MK4 ST 330 mountune is a joy to drive every single day. Love it

I really enjoy the 128ti! I think it’s worth considering Australia’s appears to be detuned moreso than those sold in the UK, US & EU :)

Brz for the 🏆 😁

Where is the Audi S3 or Honda Civic type R or vw polo GTI or Renault Megane RS or Ford Fiesta ST or Hyundai Kona N or Mini Cooper GP or Mercedes Benz A45 AMG or Suzuki Swift sport

100% Brz/GR86 no doubt

Awesome and wise choice, Motor. BRZ/GR 86 2022 is an awesome driver's car

What a week, what a line-up. Regrettably the BRZ was one of the few cars I didn't get behind the wheel of but that MX-5 was something special too. The market is full of amazing options for any buyer.

@jing713

2 жыл бұрын

Except they are more expensive and there is a long wait for most models, sadly

@mr.silhouette6252

2 жыл бұрын

@@jing713 Damn chip shortage man

For me it’s either the Hyundai i30N Sedan/Hatchback, GR Yaris and the BRZ/GR 86.

So glad I put a deposit done for a GR86. I knew once I saw it release and saw the only one I’ve seen drive past me, I knew I needed one. I’ll be the 2nd GR in my area about 2 hours every direction 😁

what a great production quality in this video! keep it up

You guys are missing the Challenger GT V6, Camaro RS V6, Infiniti Q60, Nissan Z, Toyota Supra, BMW Z4, Porsche Boxster & a Mercedes-Benz C class coupe

serious question , is the Yaris the ugliest sports car ever produced ? it looks like it would be fun on snow , in dirt or going fast in the wet , but it looks like an orthopedic shoe for somebody with a short leg . I mean it makes Subarus look like they have a styling dept .

Great piece.

Just traded in my FR-S for a 22 GR86. Just better all around, and I loved my FR-S.

Great video team! Really enjoyed watching. However I would have liked to see more individual content on each car and was disappointed in how little was said on the i30N sedan

@patrickbilodeau3785

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I also think the i30N is better than tied for 4th !

@clementquirder

2 жыл бұрын

It’s ugly and tacky who cares

@robinebbing2319

2 жыл бұрын

The car they show isnt that a elantra N the i 30looks diffrent

@Ryan-wf7sh

2 жыл бұрын

@@robinebbing2319 in Australia it’s the i30N sedan, everywhere else it’s the Elantra N

1. There is a Sedan version of the Octavia (even if it feels like i am the only 1 driving one) 2. In central Eu, there are a lot of Skodas on the road

So, a Toyota GR 86 won too!

History repeats its self...with BRZ.... 30 years ago we had the Toyota Corolla AE86..... BRING IT ON...YEEEHHAAA

Wonderful review!

I test drove an i20N, and had a ride in one later on, but it’s suspension is not just too firm, but it runs out of travel too quickly. I slammed it into its bump stops just driving around on its test drive. Out where I live, it’d be bounced off the road.

Congratulations! Excellent and complete test! I love the BRZ and am one step away from buying it. However, MY 2023 is not available for test drive in my country and I have only driven the previous first generation brz which I really liked. My only concern is if the suspension of the new one is too hard because the roads here are not good. I would like a quick comparison in this area with the other cars presented here and with the ford fiesta mk8 (my 2023) which is my second choice. Also is the roof on the new brz lower than the old 1st gen for easy entry? My height is 178 cm. Thanks in advance for your reply!

Wonderful review and I was surprised the BRZ got out on top in this company. That makes me so happy I ordered my Toyota GR86 a month ago (BRZ isn't available in Europe). 👍

@panagiotis-fz7lz

Жыл бұрын

it's available. Which country are you from ?

@25:41 come on guys, you're meant to know the numbers. the gr yaris has a wheelbase of 255.8 cm and the current 911 gt3 is 245.6cm. Why are you making up concern from nothing?

Not surprised by the result, the BRZ is a classic analogue throwback.

@1Solace

Жыл бұрын

Except for the electric steering

My 22 Brz happy for this :))

I30n imo is the winner of the lot for a fun street car that can be tracked, fit you're family, dct box so anyone can drive it, and all this for 50k before onroads brand new, saying that I haven't driven the 86/ brz and definitely want to as there hasn't been one bad review on it, but 2 doors and no boot space just doesn't pass as a street usable car for me

Would have been interesting to put into this selection of 10 cars. The "Bang For Your Buck" Motor Legend that is the...FIST!!!! (Latest 5-dr 3-cyl LSD version) ..given how well the Focus ST performed in this years bunch of budget sports cars.

@andyenright1436

2 жыл бұрын

Fear not. Given that it's about to get a torque bump, the Fiesta ST is going to qualify for next year's event. And it'll do really well, I can confidently predict that.

@incar95678

2 жыл бұрын

@@andyenright1436 The GR86 as well

Well I haven't driven the new Hyundai Sedan I30N but own the Mk4 Focus ST (orange fury) and it's shocking how fast you can drive it up a windy wet road and it hangs on. Not the fastest to 100km/h or over a quarter mile but on a twisting road look out.

Hyundai i20 N is going to be a future classic , great car

Great video

I like how you created a sub-category for the more accessible performance cars. These cars are great but it’s almost impossible for them to compete in a competition with 911 GT3’s and Huracan EVO’s.

@Android-dd7if

Жыл бұрын

U drive an old mini. Stfu lol

@1Solace

Жыл бұрын

That's irrelevant

I owned and loved the MK4 Focus ST. An absolutely awesome car. Unfortunately it was written off by another moron driver and waiting list negated me getting another one. I ended up getting a Kona N which is insane as a car. I'm surprised you guys didn't have it on the list to be honest. Great review nonetheless.

@m_thebox

2 жыл бұрын

Any crossover or SUV is out of the list, I reckon.

@andyenright1436

2 жыл бұрын

@@m_thebox We brought a Stelvio Q to PCOTY a couple of years back and it felt a bit out of its depth against pure performance cars, especially on track. We're going to wrangle a separate megatest of high-performance SUVs and we'd running a long term Kona N and know just how focused it is.

That drift from the BRZ 😊

Why I keep my mazdaspeed cuz unfortunately it’s a dead platform that will live on 380whp is so fun plus how cheap it is to mod compared to a evo sti or gti

Seems like they are judging cars as road cars but performance oriented; however, the roads in the USS are all busted up and broken, and most of these cars would blow tires/rims all the time. That's one reason that a fast "Road car" in the US needs big wheels and tires, big power for the open road, etc.

Seems all the BRZ needs is some Brembos in a TS version. Anyone from Motor hazard a guess at where you'd rank the MY21 Type R that you tested at PI when it was released?

@andyenright1436

2 жыл бұрын

The 10th Gen Civic Type-R is the undefeated champ of, well, everything. Every single competition or comparison we've put it in, it has won. Would PCOTY '22 have been any different? That's a tough one. It would probably have ended up in the top one or two!

@michaelferraris2441

2 жыл бұрын

@@andyenright1436 Not bad for a platform going on 5 years. I know it's not still on sale but pity you couldn't wrestle the keys away from Honda Australia to AUS-001. I was lucky enough to snag an LE and I honestly can't ever see myself selling it they're just that good.

@andyenright1436

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelferraris2441 Maybe we can try to get hold of one later in the year for a drive with the BRZ and see which champ prevails. That'd be a great day out.

@antonroux6737

2 жыл бұрын

@@andyenright1436 and it needs to be tested up front in its new edition with the GR Corolla too please. I figure the new WRX might not be in the same league

@1Solace

Жыл бұрын

It's fine with just upgraded pads

The Octavia RS sells loads in Finland. I see them everywhere.

I have a sedan n and no way does it make you feel "disconnected" and because you get back seats and a boot and possibly the best interior apart from the Mustang it's still the winner in my book . Good viewing tho

@adamb8552

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it should do better than 5.95s 0-100 too, more like 5.3 in the DCT. Still would have been 3rd I suppose.

Would you say the automatic brz would double down on its results or would it score lower

@elementle

2 жыл бұрын

The automatic BRZ is good for what it is. It's an acceptably intelligent gearbox but it doesn't have the same level of engagement as the manual. Same great chassis and powerplant, but missing a significant element of the 'experience' - to me at least.

So glad I brought a i20n 😍

@dixinormus5143

2 жыл бұрын

Just ordered one, who know's how long I'll have to wait to get it but I'm very excited :D

3rd time watching this excellent video. I wish I was AUSSIE ALEX should be in the movies

Love everything AUSSIE. Most enjoyable reveiw of all time. btw I just purchased the brz in wrb w it's wonderful MT. CHEERS

@andyenright1436

2 жыл бұрын

You have one heck of a car. Great selection.

I’m glad I live in the US.

It's great Subaru listened and acted , not many manufacturers even listen .

what about Fiesta ST? is between i20N and Focus

i agree in part, here in mexico i was thinking if get a subaru brz or a mx-5, but the subaru is almost double the price of the little miata

@richardhoulton4016

2 жыл бұрын

Wow…not here it isn’t

@Blight-fp3vt

2 жыл бұрын

The MX-5 is 25% more expensive here.

@rce59

2 жыл бұрын

Is it possible to buy the Miata in Mexico and bring it to the states?

@shivamarya5225

2 жыл бұрын

Miata is still a fabulous car mate, it's rwd and extremely light similar to a brz but its also a convertible and that ups the fun qotient alot

@richardhoulton4016

2 жыл бұрын

@@shivamarya5225 It is a fabulous car! I had an ND RF from new for 5 years. I just sold it, and bought a BRZ. The Mazda was brilliant…but it is a toy. It’s difficult to live with as your only vehicle. The BRZ’s added practicality is a bonus.

Why is practicality a factor in this test? Its sports car of the year, keep that for car of the year. Mx5 shouldve won easily no comparison between the rest, only the brz comes close but is still compromised because of rear seats and practicality, compared to the mx5.

@binskee677

2 жыл бұрын

If it’s just about performance the Gr Yaris wins easily (except for the 100k Mustang which should not be part of the review…)

@richardhoulton4016

2 жыл бұрын

The MX5 has no practicality whatsoever. It’s a toy. People buying these cars are often buying their “only car” so the fact that if you lay the BRZ’s useless rear seats flat, you can put a lot of stuff in it, is not an inconsiderable factor. I had an ND RF and it was a great little car. But if my wife and I were going away for any longer than a weekend, we had to take her car. The RF couldn’t take more than one airline sized carry-on. The BRZ can easily swallow two maximum sized airline suitcases and some. But, all other considerations aside, the BRZ is the equal of the MX5 from a driving experience…unless you require topless motoring which only the MX5 can provide.

@andersbjrnsen7203

2 жыл бұрын

Some of us can only atferd to own and run one car, so kind of a point for it to also fulfill everyday needs...

@binskee677

2 жыл бұрын

@@andersbjrnsen7203 then those criterias should have been included in the video, then it would make sense.

@andersbjrnsen7203

2 жыл бұрын

@@binskee677 kind of is when it is one of the points for scoring. Could have been made clearer of course.

Just to confirm for this test did Motor Magazine use the higher displacement MX5 or was it the 1.5L? In America we only get the 2.0 but they were getting a 1.5L at one point.

@richardhoulton4016

2 жыл бұрын

2.0

My brother has a BRZ and loves it. Unfortunately I cannot fit in it. I am too tall. I bought a Hyundai N. I can fit in that.

@richardhoulton4016

2 жыл бұрын

A 6’8” friend drove mine the other week and fitted just fine.

With regards to cornering, what's the best? I'd like to have seen a final table breaking down criteria and score for each model tested... 😊 I'm looking for a car to have fun on twisty roads... I own a Kia Cerato GT. Thanks for the great comparison though, very helpful!

@_CJB

2 жыл бұрын

Marcos, buy their magazine this month which will likely have the data. If you’re craving a corner-carving car, highly recommended either the new BRZ or the i20n. I’ve driven both, their chassis and suspension tuning is fantastic out of the box. If you want to keep your current Kia, I suggest upgrading your tires to Michelin Pilotsport 5/4S or Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersport.

@m_thebox

2 жыл бұрын

@@_CJB thanks mate, great advice 👍 Maybe the new tyres are a good and cheaper alternative I was looking for!

@motorofficial

2 жыл бұрын

We have the full VBOX data from the track in the magazine - worth picking up!

@andyenright1436

2 жыл бұрын

@@motorofficial @hy0lee has some good advice there. Both of those Hyundais are dynamite. If you prefer to engage the rear of the car a little more, choose the Ford Focus ST. But if I was looking for a pure road car in that category, and you're getting out of a Cerato GT, it's hard to look past the i30 N.

@m_thebox

2 жыл бұрын

@@andyenright1436 thanks Andy for the extra advice and replying to my dilemma. Definitely will take into consideration ☺️😉 👍 going to subscribe the printed version of the mag!

I found it a little odd that when describing the BRZ they kept saying “Subaru did this, did that” without acknowledging the Toyota 86. Everyone knows Toyota took a big part and likely took the lead on it’s development given their vast resources compared to tiny Subaru.

@876yuugt

Жыл бұрын

Subaru did all of the development on the gen 2s.

Great video, nicely done. Was that Yaris tuned? Its performance data seems abnormally fast compared to any other test I've seen. If the other cars were consistently abnormal I'd put it down to driver skill but most of them are on par or a bit worse than usual. Seems odd

@andyenright1436

2 жыл бұрын

The Yaris was ostensibly stock. It hooked up perfectly and didn't induce any wheelspin when flatshifting. None of us could quite believe the time. The quickest we'd got out of the exact same car before was 5.16s. It was an extremely windy day down on the coast when we were testing and we were running into a headwind off the Bass Strait with some cars and enjoying a strong tailwind with others.

@repuniad

2 жыл бұрын

@@andyenright1436 seems like some world record times and not even on a prepped drag strip. bravo :)

@minimumtrade

2 жыл бұрын

More hp than the UK spec.

@shivamarya5225

2 жыл бұрын

GR Yaris in Australia gets launch control, which is not there in most other places like Europe

@repuniad

2 жыл бұрын

@@shivamarya5225 There's no launch control on mine. Pretty sure we didn't get it.

great video guys but calling these sports cars is a bit of a stretch. The Miata, BRZ, and Mustang can fit that. The other are performance versions of regular cars. Or you know, hot hatches.

@binskee677

2 жыл бұрын

Not the GR Yaris, it’s a bespoke car which only shares the lights, antenna and the side mirrors with the standard yaris.

@deadeye0o

2 жыл бұрын

Telling me you have no clue about the gr without saying it The gr is nothing like its base car, it doesnt even have a base car actually aince the back is from another toyota lol

I wish I could get Hyundai I20N here in India.

Even as a as a "Ford guy" that owned a BA XR6T, an FG XR6 and an LW Focus ST I'm really surprised at the Focus ST being picked over the i30N sedan and the maybe even the GTI. I drove all 3 quite a bit while deciding which to buy and honestly found it the worst of the 3. Maybe the updated 2022 model improves on a couple of things to put it ahead of the GTI but from my time with them(all automatic mind you) it wasn't even close to the i30N sedan. The Hyundai felt like it pulled harder, cornered better, and had a lot more fun factor than the SA Focus ST.

@cy9nvs

2 жыл бұрын

I've driven the i30n and the focus st, both manual, and felt no significant difference in handling or acceleration. 🤷🏼‍♂️ Most noticeable difference was the superior interior quality of the ford, which kind of surprised me. The i30 interior is nasty.

@reeisessit

2 жыл бұрын

I^ve driven both but i'm more the guy with analogue feelings. I can tell you right away the Focus ST is in my opinion better.

Australia : BRZ is an affordable sports car for 44k Thailand : Underpowered sports car for 126k (in comparison that's 4 civics)

I'll have one of each , please.

So the focus and brz are better than the faster , more space , louder , more fun to drive the Elantra N ?

What about the golf R 👌

@christopherjohnston6343

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think they explained why the Gti 8 didn't place that well in test. I'm assuming it's cost was a bit higher and it seemed like they may have been ranking more for fun per $$$?

All hail the twins baby Toyo/baru fucking killed it.

Engine sound should be a category.

Why you did not include the Honda Civic ?

Great film but, where were the Fiesta ST, Supra, Boxster, Cayman, Alpine?

@richardhoulton4016

2 жыл бұрын

Over $100k most of them

When you say the BRZ is the No. 1 car, does that mean the GR86 is No. 1 also? They practically the same car, aren't they? I thought the GR Yaris would've scored higher than the i20N.

Im curious why you guys didnt have a new civic SI in there.

@andyenright1436

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately we don't get that car here in Australia, Hernan. Even the Type-R has recently gone off sale here.

@GR_FOURRARIS

2 жыл бұрын

@@andyenright1436 it totally skipped my mind ya'll were in Australia.

I wish Ford would bring the st back to the USA. Forget the regular focus.... just the st. Same way VW only brings the gti now

‘The Ford Mustang was surprising on the track’ he said?

Where’s the WRX and i30N hatch?

Focus ST is easier to live with if you have a family though. The BRZ is not family friendly.

@mr.silhouette6252

2 жыл бұрын

I hears that vehicle is as fun as well even with family. But since I'm single I am really looking forward to my gr86.

Great review. I bought a GR Rallye Yaris and I must say I was shocked to see the 0-100km/hr time. It's really that fast? It sure doesn't feel like it. After a year of owning it I'm still unsure whether I love it or not however, mostly because the only time it's any real fun is when you're thrashing it to the limit. It's also a car that doesn't reward delicate inputs. It's either grab it by the neck and strangle it or it doesn't move. I wouldn't call it flowing. More on/off, almost like a car that you're waiting to be run-in but it never happens. Driven slowly it's boring, almost to the point of being dull. It even sounds boring. My Dyson vacuum cleaner sounds more interesting. And your point about the Focus Still being great to drive, even at slower speeds, is a good one. 90% of the time these cars are going to be driven at 40km/hr on freeways, watching out for speed cameras. Sometimes fast doesn't always mean exciting and this test is proof positive that you can more fun in a much slower car. Well done Subaru/Toyota for sticking to the core value of that little coupe.

@mattyoz0

2 жыл бұрын

No sports car is fun driving slow. Ridiculous comment.

@joshmarks3954

Жыл бұрын

40kms on a freeway? Lol

@gixxr88

Жыл бұрын

Have had a Yaris GR and found it to be extremely fun around town, and especially when going at it, unfortunately in Australia I don't think it's even possible remotely enjoying any of these cars without breaking our draconian nanny state "road safety" laws.

GR Yaris, i30n and Skoda VRS should have been higher with respect to how you were talking them up

I bought a i30 sedan N. Yaris was too tiny, impractical with a child, overpriced, outdated interior with budget tech. I have all the creature comfort ventliated seats in aussie summer, a large boot, decent rear seats, a fully customisable performance and a very exciting exhaust noise. It was no competition.

@mattipuh

2 жыл бұрын

😂 i have three kids yet GR is perfect. Depends what you want - family car or sports car

@tizmon

2 жыл бұрын

A case of an i30 owner lost his mind and thought his car competes with GR but came to his senses at the end.

@odenms258

2 жыл бұрын

GR Yaris is Homologation car, it is a race car but legal on the road, what do you expect from race car/track focused car, you pay more to get less

@dw214

2 жыл бұрын

"Budget tech"? ...heated seats ...heated steering wheel...blind spot monitoring ...adaptive radar cruise control with lane assist (literally turns the corners for you and adjusts your speed when a car cuts in front) ...Toyota ADAS as standard (autonomous emergency braking) ...automatic hazard light activation on hard braking in an emergency stop.. auto headlight switch (turns highbeams on when its dark and turns it off when oncoming traffic approaches)....anti glare electronic mirror..... android auto/apple carplay as standard with AWD interchangable drive modes with a single button (can go from FWD to RWD in 1 second or have a 50/50 split) ...not to mention active AWD found in the likes of Subaru and not "on-demand". "Impactical with a child?" (you're comparing a full size family sized sedan vs a performance hatchback just fyi....) "Overpriced?" (Someone seems upset they weren't one of the first 1000 people to get them for $39500 drive away) "Yaris was too tiny" (i am 6'2 and i fit in it perfectly with plenty of room ...unless you got a fat gut then you got bigger problems to worry about then the car's actual size) "a fully customisable performance?" (not even going to touch this one lol) Mate , honestly even i am not sure what you're on about but i know for damn certain you don't either LOL. Congratulations on your purchase , the i30n is a great car , but to compare the two is just downright silly and you're embarassing yourself online by making such statements.

@seansamuel4656

5 ай бұрын

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Team mustang for me. Looks the most badass imo.

can't believe GR Yaris is not no1 in this test, kinda weird to see GR86 in top spot despite not even nearly as capable as GR Yaris I do love sportcar, much more than hatchback and hot hatch, still performance of GR86 is inferior to GR Yaris

@blackrhino44

2 жыл бұрын

Well the Yaris is an extra $20,000! No thanks.

@taiminsen8069

2 жыл бұрын

@@blackrhino44 yes it's around 1.5 - 2 times of GR86 prices. Even more thanks to scalper reseller but it sold out in most countries, so much that most scalper reseller asking between 75k - 90k USD, different from GR86 and by looking at Yaris, that means customers are willing to pay that much for better engine that has turbo as long as performance to price ratio is still good, since most years of reasons and arguments of 86 not going for turbo is it going to be costly and no1 will buy it I just wish GR86 become spiritual successor of Silvia Spec R S15

@mrx__678

2 жыл бұрын

Same tought

Putting an 83,000 mustang in an affordable car video is enough to make me unsubscribe. Like wtf

BRZ FTW😤

I wonder why the Mini Cooper S or JCW aren't on here?

It has boggled my mind for years that Ford hasn't sold this generation of Focus, particularly the ST, here in the United States. And instead they put the Mustang label on an electric SUV? Car manufacturing suicide, imo.

@MaxFromSydney1

2 жыл бұрын

We’ve sold various European made Fords in Australia for decades, including these Focus models. But for some reason, the European made Fords just haven’t been that popular with buyers here.

Results aside, what a film!

Mustang Mach1 without handling package (as tested) is money waste. Add handling package option and you would have proper sportscar, and laptimes would be on par with Cayman GT4.

The only thing mentioned about the i30N is that it ‘feels disconnected’ and nothing else? What a load of crap. I have an i30N hatchback but I struggle to believe that sedan one is much different. It has some of the best steering and brake feel out of any car in the segment (better than a lot of much more expensive sports cars as well). They also just set up to have fun handling characteristics