Reminder that if you think Leclerc’s luck in Monaco is bad, Jim Clark took 4 pole positions in Monaco without managing to even get on the podium in any occasion

@marvaster

11 ай бұрын

I was JUST thinking about that! And yes, Charles isn’t the most unlucky F1 driver when it comes to the Monaco Grand Prix.

@allainangcao28

10 ай бұрын

And it wasn't Clark's fault most of the time, Charles has crashed out and it being driver error rather than mechanical but Clark's Lotus broke down so often, it was farcical that he only won as much as he did. Had his Lotus been more durable, he would have way more races. Despite having a driving style so efficient, mechanics can decipher which parts came out of Clark's car because they would look almost brand new, he still had issues with the car falling apart one way or another.

@MalinWestman-et3ly

10 ай бұрын

2017: Pole in the feature and leads with ease before a SC and then suspension failure. Has to start last in the sprint due to the earlier DNF. At this point some small points don’t matter so he sends it and complete some great overtakes until a collision. 2018: Brake failure in the race. 2019: Ferrari fucks up qualifying and he is knocked out in Q1. Does the same strategy as in the F2 sprint and takes massive risks. Some great passes are then followed by a collision. 2021: Takes pole position and crashes at the end of Q3. Normally not a problem but Ferrari fails to check the left side of the car and miss that the driveshaft is faulty. DNS. 2022: Pole position by a mile, worth noting that he was almost 1 second up on the rest before a red flag. Race is run in heavy rain which dries over the course of the race. He starts the first 15 laps by pulling a 10 second gap on the rest of the field and dominates this first stint, then Ferrari messes up horribly. 2023: Qualifies third, unfortunately his engineer messes up with traffic and he gets a grid penalty. Takes home a fifth place I think it was. The only driver errors here are the F2 sprint and 2019 race, both of which were not exactly genuine mistakes but more a consequence of earlier bad luck leading to him choosing to go for insane overtakes to make something of worth. I’d say that is preferable to sitting back and hoping for a lower points position.

@laughing5752

3 ай бұрын

​@@allainangcao28tbf most cars back then suffered from reliability. It wasn't rare to see multiple DNF's

I always thought that pole position deserves at least 1 point, just like fastest lap.

@jeffstaples347

11 ай бұрын

Fastest lap of the weekend technically

@chriswebb5544

11 ай бұрын

@@jeffstaples347 which would be qualifying

@user-iv1bv6kv6x

11 ай бұрын

​@@chriswebb5544that's what he said?

@pedrobernardi9409

11 ай бұрын

I disagree. Pole is already a great advantage for the race... It wouldn't be fair to a driver who did pole and win to score more points than a driver that win starting at 12th, for example

@jeffstaples347

11 ай бұрын

@@pedrobernardi9409 ahh, good point heh. Maybe then drop 1st place in race by one, I think that would be fair af

Boy, it just started but i can already imagine Leclerc in 2022

@potatogirlcultist19

11 ай бұрын

Well... You're going to be dissapointed...

@ForzaPolska06

11 ай бұрын

AND CHARLES LECLERC... IS CHAMPION... OF THE WORLD!

@DannyBoy3

11 ай бұрын

Even in that scenario Ferrari fucked him up in Brazil with their strategy

@ForzaPolska06

11 ай бұрын

Nevermind somehow he doesn't

@ForzaPolska06

11 ай бұрын

And yes it took me over 3 hours to watch the video

Wow, I would NEVER guessed Barrichello would have won 2003 in qualifying...

@hanswurst6712

11 ай бұрын

From all the changes in that theoretical qualyfing championships timeline, this is the biggest surprise by far for me.

@_SpamMe

10 ай бұрын

??? It's not exactly a secret that the strategy by Ferrari was geared towards a long first stint by Schumacher. He almost always started on a full(-ish) fuel tank, while Rubens did the opposite.

The only timeline us Chris Amon fans can live in while staying sane

@LeonardoAld

11 ай бұрын

There are Chris Amon fans?

@leggera1

11 ай бұрын

@@LeonardoAld 7 of us it seems Edit: holy hell we've damn near doubled, THIRTEEN! THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED

@LeonardoAld

9 ай бұрын

​@@leggera132 as of august 2023

@JackLikesTrackhouse

5 ай бұрын

@@leggera1make it 44 (I share my birthday with him)

@oliverwilkinson7129

5 ай бұрын

45 now (im a kiwi)

Jim Clark 5 time champion. This is now my cannon.

Senna and Clark were otherworldly, who knows how many more championships they would've had under this system if they hadn't lost their lives.

Hi Peter, as a fan of Formula One and its history, i have an idea for an "what if?" video: what if there was a Rookies' Championship? But first, some rules: 1. Drivers that raced in Championships preceding the first World Championship race (e.g. Farina, Fangio) or in the 500, between 1950-60, shall not be considered. 2. Drivers that participated in at least 8 races in a season for the first time, are eligible for points. 3. Points system (See notes) 3 drivers: 4-2-1 (when all 3 drivers finish in the top 10) 11-15th places: half a point. Below 16th: no points. Bonus: fastest lap (in the top 10) and a top 8 on sprint races award a quarter of a point each. Notes: *I.* The Championship may not take place if there are less than 3 drivers eligible for points. Points system with 4 eligible drivers: 5-3-2-1, with 5 eligible drivers: 6-4-3-2-1, and so on. *II.* Points only applies to championship races. Non-championship races will not award points. *III.* No points awarded if less than 75% of race distance is completed. Bonus points are only awarded for drivers that reached the chequered flag in the top 10. *IV.* This may be obvious, but this Championship has no effect on IRL standings. Am open to any changes that may be recommended.

@shampoo4273

11 ай бұрын

Damn bro the biggest what if is

Peter, blink twice if Charles Leclerc made you make this video!

@Dahl-os5rl

10 ай бұрын

charles leclerc didn't even win *sobs*

Ngl as a Brazilian I very much prefere this new universe

I like how 2021 still is contreversial, and Hamilton fans would hate Verstappen even more now as they could now argue that his wing touching in Brazil cost Hamilton his 8th title.

@unnamedunbekannt1691

11 ай бұрын

But Verstappen would have qualified in Sochi instead of safeing the engine, where he most likely would have taken pole or at least beaten Hamilton, who made a mistake.

@potatogirlcultist19

11 ай бұрын

@@unnamedunbekannt1691 Verstappen pole in Russia = +25 points Verstappen drops a place in Brazil =-7 points Total difference = +18 points Overall total for Verstappen = 423 points Hamilton drops a place in Russia = -2 points Hamilton pole in Brazil + 25 points Total difference = +23 points Overall total for Hamilton = 423 points WAIT THATS NUTS! THEY FINISH LEVEL ON POINTS!!!

@L.internet8

11 ай бұрын

@@potatogirlcultist19 who has the most poles, then?

@potatogirlcultist19

11 ай бұрын

@@L.internet8 Verstappen: 1. BAH 2. FRA 3. STY 4. AUT 5. BEL 6. NED 7. RUS 8. UNI 9. ABU Hamilton: 1. EMI 2. ESP 3. GBR 4. HUN 5. TUR 6. SAO 7. QAT 8. SAU Verstappen would win due to 9 pole positions instead of Hamilton's 8, if we count the Sao Paolo pole andif Verstappen get's pole in Russia. Just goes to show how unbelivably closethese two were even in Qualifying that year.

@L.internet8

11 ай бұрын

@@potatogirlcultist19 thanks 4 showing it mate

Moral of the story: Jean Behra was very good at qualifying

@eobenrader7492

11 ай бұрын

Or very average at racing

@gradypusateri

10 ай бұрын

And Maurice Trintignant sucked 😂

Senna getting that early season FW16 onto pole position at least once in 1994 deserved a World Championship..

I was expecting some qualifying legends to perform well here, including Arnoux, Jabouille, Peterson, Trulli or Bottas. What i was not expecting, was a title for Rubens 😅 Also: 21 points/qualifying for Fangio is pretty badass...

RUBINHO CAME OUTTA NOWHERE

This guy is so chad that i think he will do even a video where only practice counted

@potatogirlcultist19

11 ай бұрын

Valtteri Bottas 2020 champion??? It was a running joke that year that Vallteri would dominate Friday and Saturday morning, only for Hamilton to do a bit of trolling and win the pole and the race. ALSO GOATIFI WOULD BE A RACE WINNER!

@Codi95

11 ай бұрын

@@potatogirlcultist19 that's why i want that

I was going to comment on how amazing the little differences in the 50s and 60s are, and praise you for the amazing work plus all the gorgeous pictures. Instead, I will say this should be the canon history not because of Senna or whatever, but because it gives Rubens Barrichello that precious WDC.

Fangio having a 21 point average...... What a beast!

Just goes to show how great Jim Clark and Ayrton Senna really were. Incredible

Graham Hill - 5-time runner-up (1962, 1963, 1965, 1967, 1968), no title René Arnoux - 3-time runner-up (1980, 1982, 1983), no title 2 most unlucky drivers in this format, although Arnoux is atleast more succesful in this timeline.

@benwas2017

5 күн бұрын

If you look at it closely, Arnoux has lost the title 4 years in a row int the last race, when he really should have taken it Also Brabham (team) don't get any championship despite being top three 13 times

So, in this timeline, Rosberg beat Hamilton twice (in equal machinery), and Leclerc still screwed by Ferrari

Of course hunt got 69 points in 1976

Senna getting 7 poles in his second year is insanity.

@Dahl-os5rl

10 ай бұрын

i know another driver who got 7 poles in his second year (leclerc. who still didn't win 2022 and i'm pissed)

@frasie741

7 ай бұрын

@@Dahl-os5rl20 career poles and 5 career wins lmao he was never gonna win the championship

@Dahl-os5rl

7 ай бұрын

@@frasie741 it was more about ferrari than him in the end. this weekend proved that no matter how good he is, ferrari will always fuck him over (for carlos)

@frasie741

7 ай бұрын

@@Dahl-os5rl yes but he has proven time and time again that he doesnt have the race pace. I’m not going to deny that Ferrari plays a part, but for example how quickly max closed the gap at Singapore showed how he does not have the ability to race like a wdc

1:00:38 the points average is how im ranking it, so: 1 Fangio, 2 Ascari, 3 Senna, 4 Jim Clark, 5 Hamilton

I feel like, only currently in 1986, that Senna will be like a 10 time world champion

I adore your videos, especially the determination you put in. I was very surprised that Leclerc didnt take the title in 2022 from Max. But, as you've said, it was ONLY JUST. Can't wait for the next video. Sending love from Slovakia!

Man, your videos are absolutely top. You’re my favourite F1-related content creator by a long shot

I wouldn’t have guessed this based on that thumbnail post lol, these cool statistic ideas are fun to talk about

I love these type of videos, there's really no one else that does it like you do it peter

Awesome video. Honestly I've been waiting for this one!

Is really something to think that even if from 2000 to 2022 nothing change as much, at least i think would have been a really close championship And i think this is your best alternate video you made, the changes, the facts, just that And the suprise in your voice in 2003 and 2022 was fantastic

This video is the fevered work of a madman. One of those random questions you just wonder about but would never put the time and effort to answer. Bravo mate! Hard thumbs up

Man, your videos are just insane bro. Very interessing as usual

@3:41 "Formula 1 was run to Formula 2 regulations in 1952” What an odd sentence.

Top tier video. Great creativity

Keep up these what ifs videos because they are so interesting

Another fun video, good job 👍

Huge respect for putting these videos together. So much work must go into them! I spent two hours on figuring out what the 2023 season would have looked like if Red Bull had only fielded one car for Verstappen, so I can only imagine how long this must've taken. For the record, Red Bull would still win the WCC if they fielded only one car.

Hi Peter, have you considered making your videos available in audio only format on various podcast services, I feel the long form nature of them combined with your clear style of speaking really lends itself to such a thing.

Great video, I really love knowing what it would be like in an alternative world 😊

bro your content is lit ma boy but I honestly think you would get so much more exposure to your page if you added some video elements in your clips instead of image slides n stuff. The actual information is suppperr interesting dont get me wrong, just lacking a little visual content. Keep up the good work, great vid

This is what I dreames for someone making about this, except CFRacing Great job as always Peter! 🎉

I love you vids man you are a legend, so fucking underrated

I didn't quite understand this from the video - did you count the new Sprint Shootout in 2023 in the results? I think it would make sense as the session is basically a regular quali just with a shorter timer. You could use the points system that's used for the Sprint race in real life (so 8 points for a win etc.).

it's good day when peter uploads 1h long banger(thumbnail also looks cool)

45:20 I believe you meant to say Farina in 1950 not Fangio. Thought I'd point that out. Great vid as always btw.

@PeterBrookF1

11 ай бұрын

No in this timeline it's Fangio!

@sz9536

11 ай бұрын

@@PeterBrookF1 oh my bad, that makes sense. Thanks.

I was just thinking about this recently. Coincidence? I think not!

Suggestion for the next video, combine points for qualifying and the race result including the fastest lap

19:27 it's beautiful, perfect down to the minor details

What if points were awarded for qualifying and the race?

didnt expect barrichello to take1 off schumy

So, conclusion Fangio dominates all stats again Man is just the best In Serbia we have saying "drives like Fangio" when someone is driving fast or good Note that fangio was older guy, when he set everything, if he started racing like Max, I'm sure he would score 20 titles...

How was I not subscribed to you already? Massive oversight on my part. Apologies.

In order for reverse grids to work , qualifying is worth more points than a win. This is how we do it on weekender tracks in n America. F1 could do this. Make a win 25 points and pole 35 points. Then do reverse grids.

To be fair, only counting the best x results per driver only makes sense when there are races which may be affected by reliability. At least that’s what I think.

Hey Peter, I have an idea on a video What if the f1 points system was always like 1.25 2.16 3.8 4.4 5.2 6.1 3. 8

34:42 soooooo in this case imma go ahead and say senna said something along the lines of “Ight imma head out”

Before watching I will hypothesize that Leclerc either won or was a close runner up in both 2019 and 2022

@unnamedunbekannt1691

11 ай бұрын

Turns out he only got third in 2019

I mean it did once afford points in 2021 with the single best qualifying session I think of all time quite honestly in Spa. (I know technically there was a "race" on Sunday but no.)

I hate to be that guy, but our telly wasn't 480p, it was 576i in PAL standard territories

This is for all the #Trullitrain enthusiasts

Behra-Porsche-Porche is the most hilarious team name ever

Its very difficult for the refueling era, especially for Schumacher as he almost always started on a much higher fuel load in order to run longer

Hamilton AIN'T winning 2019 then 🤣🤣🤣 (never mind just watched the vid)

8:18 is pretty sad for Hawthorn to win then retire just from die in a car crash has to just be so awful

Did you not count Pérez’s P2 in 2016 Baku Qualifying?

@PeterBrookF1

10 ай бұрын

No I did

F1 could at least give 3 points for pole, 2 for P2 and 1 for P3 like they do in Super Formula currently.

@eggselent9814

11 ай бұрын

Same in DTM

Ahh yes, this is quite the F1 2018. Love these automatically generated games

We need a video about the 1955 season

Its interesting that in 2011 Lewis and Jenson had basically inverted quali and race results

could you do a video on "what if you could only win one WDC, who would be champion then"

@eggselent9814

11 ай бұрын

Imma Spare you the video: 1950s 1950: Farina 1951: Fangio 1952: Ascari 1953: Mike Hawthorn 1954: José Froilan Gonzalez 1955: Stirling Moss 1956: Peter Collins 1957: Luigi Musso 1958: Tony Brooks 1959: Jack Brabham 1960s: 1960: Bruce McLaren 1961: Phil Hill 1962: Graham Hill 1963: Jim Clark 1964: John Surtees 1965: Jackie Stewart 1966: Jochen Rindt 1967: Denny Hulme 1968: Jacky Ickx 1969: Jean-Pierre Beltoise 1970s: 1970: Clay Regazzoni 1971: Ronnie Peterson 1972: Emerson Fittipaldi 1973: Francois Cevert 1974: Jody Scheckter 1975: Carlos Reutemann 1976: James Hunt 1977: Mario Andretti 1978: Patrick Depailler 1979: Gilles Villeneuve 1980s: 1980: Nelson Piquet 1981: Jacques Laffite 1982: Keke Rosberg 1983: Alain Prost 1984: Elio de Angelis 1985: Michele Alboreto 1986: Nigel Mansell 1987: Ayrton Senna 1988: Gerhard Berger 1989: Riccardo Patrese 1990s: 1990: Thierry Boutsen 1991: Jean Alesi 1992: Michael Schumacher 1993: Damon Hill 1994: Mika Häkkinen 1995: David Coulthard 1996: Jacques Villeneuve 1997: Heinz-Harald Frentzen 1998: Eddie Irvine 1999: Ralf Schumacher 2000s: 2000: Rubens Barrichello 2001: Juan Pablo Montoya 2002: Kimi Räikkönen 2003: Fernando Alonso 2004: Jenson Button 2005: Giancarlo Fisichella 2006: Felipe Massa 2007: Lewis Hamilton 2008: Robert Kubica 2009: Sebastian Vettel 2010s 2010: Mark Webber 2011: Nico Rosberg 2012: Romain Grosjean 2013: Nico Hülkenberg 2014: Daniel Ricciardo 2015: Valtteri Bottas 2016: Max Verstappen 2017: Sergio Perez 2018: Kevin Magnussen 2019: Charles Leclerc 2020s: 2020: Carlos Sainz 2021: Lando Norris 2022: George Russell Leading 2023 atm: Lance Stroll (pls no)

@Nr1GamerGringo

11 ай бұрын

@@eggselent9814 oh thanks, I haven't seen game of thrones aswell, mind spoiling it episode by episode?

@lucde_ville4743

9 ай бұрын

@@eggselent9814 Crqzy to think in that reality, Verstappen would be a WDC in 2016. Youngest WDC ever then.

Then the goat is clear, Ayrton Senna da Silva

@zaidreyes747

11 ай бұрын

Too Bad his wins don't tell the whole story, could've been top 3 all time if not for the Accident.

I honestly didn't think there was a way to make Barrichello a champion, but I was clearly wrong. Very surprising!

Amon winning a championship. Amazing.

Finally, Lewis gets his 2007 title 🔥

@tainoncrack3491

11 ай бұрын

You mean 'his' title that he lost because of a driver error in China 🤡

2023 F1 Qualifying Championship Drivers 1. Verstappen (419) 2. Leclerc (302) (+3) 3. Sainz (242) (+4) 4. Hamilton (193) (-1) 5. Russell (187) (+3) 6. Alonso (166) (-2) 7. Norris (161) (-1) 8. Perez (142) (-6) 9. Piastri (100) 10. Gasly (57) (+1) Constructors 1. Red Bull (561) 2. Ferrari (544) (+1) 3. Mercedes (380) (-1) 4. McLaren (261) 5. Aston Martin (222) 6. Alpine (112) 7. Haas (51) (+3) 8. Williams (46) (-1) 9. AlphaTauri (29) (-1) 10. Alfa Romeo (26) (-1)

Technically it's disqualification in the race and exclusion in qualifying

1982 standings are crazy lol imagine winning a WDC because you have more 4th places than the next driver Amazing hypothetical there

In every other possible way Massa will be the 2008 champ very strange

52:05 I know what you did there

in formula e 3 points are awarded for pole only. not a big deal but every point counts

Leclerc, Kimi, and Hamilton are about to pick up some championships.

@Dahl-os5rl

10 ай бұрын

well... *sobs in ferrari*

Rubens title in 2003, but at what cost

2003-09 doesn't count because of the cars carrying fuel on their flying laps. Well, that's what I think

Would love to see a video showing how different F1 history would be if F1 used the MotoGP points scoring system for teams and drivers for each year By the way, love the videos!

Much like a previous video a suprise Ferrari driver wins the title. I guess Reubens is a better qualifier than I realized

Does Lewis overtake Checo in 2023 tho?

Q1 championship next lol

Prosts title would have been the closest in history

You should get points for qualifying

Another What If that has Massa as Champion.

I think F1 should give Lewis Hamilton an automatic 3 lap lead, just to shut him and his adoring fans up. F1 just isn't the same without him winning every race.

So Lewis is the qualifying goat

This just shows how sub par race pace Senna had for top 5-10 driver of all time

@eggselent9814

11 ай бұрын

Not really not having race pace but being very accident prone, not careful and way to hard on his cars

@toptopovaxiv

11 ай бұрын

@@eggselent9814 what you've said actually is 70 percent of race pace parameters

@eggselent9814

11 ай бұрын

@@toptopovaxiv Not really, for me race pace is to be able to be fast throuhout the race. A driver like Jarno Trulli was a fantastic qualifier but had no pace over the full distance. Whenever Senna didn't crash or have a mechanical issue, he was pretty fast up until the end

@toptopovaxiv

11 ай бұрын

@@eggselent9814 When you crash, not careful that's not being able to be consistent at certain pace and not knowing the limit with certain tyre wear and fuel load. Being hard on car lands into same drawer - race pace. You won't have issues in one lap but in race distance...Trulli is few echelons below so not worth for comparision

@eggselent9814

11 ай бұрын

@@toptopovaxiv I think we have a different idea of what race pace is.

didn't even watcch the video yet but i can already say piqut and prost are gonna get MURDERED since they didn't drive to be the fastest rather to survive their cars/tires/electronics

saw the thumbnail afore the title and thought this vid was gonna be about pedos