WHAT IF...? 2x9 "What If...Strange Supreme Intervened?" REACTION! | Spoiler Review & Discussion
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Marvel is giving us season 2 of What If...? for the Holidays! The season finale sees Peggy Carter aka Captain Carter team up with newest superhero Kahhori to take down Supreme Strange and his nefarious plan. Also, notable mention to Hela, Wen Wu, Thor, Thanos and others!
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Kahhori has the powers of the space stone, energy blasts (like we saw happen to captain marvel), portals/teleportation (we have seen a lot), telekinesis (moving objects through space), barriers (stopping objects within space), super speed (moving herself quickly through space). The killmonger thing was her teleporting him through the armor then through a portal. OP? Yes. Makes sense given her power source? Also yes
@jimmylee9120
6 ай бұрын
Oh that makes sense. Now explain how carter was able to use all 6 stones? And she at one point had all 6 in her hand 😂😂😂
@thedarkknight2221
6 ай бұрын
@@jimmylee9120 Killmonger altered them so that he could use them. So Peggy absolutely could’ve used them.
@Iwillone
6 ай бұрын
The same could be asked of Thanos. Plus, Peggy was gradually using each stone's power.@@jimmylee9120
@julianprofas
6 ай бұрын
very well explained, and to pretty hardcore Marvel fans her power set and scaling makes a lot of sense. The issue is more that the average viewer needs a bit more time and explanation.
@phantomfaith2001
6 ай бұрын
@@julianprofasyea agreed
A Strange tale has come to an end. And now a soldier who is in awe of what the universe has to offer her takes a slow path home.
Strange was so powerful he was the only one to defeat himself.
@johnmichael9043
6 ай бұрын
Just like Wanda
@naxywaxy281
5 ай бұрын
@@johnmichael9043No wanda is weak
@chipmunkishungry5237
3 ай бұрын
@@naxywaxy281 the delusion
@naxywaxy281
3 ай бұрын
@@chipmunkishungry5237 So you are one of those😂😂😂
@chipmunkishungry5237
3 ай бұрын
@@naxywaxy281 And you are one of those
peggy is human, shes a slightly weaker version of steve yet she somehow able to beat asgadians and god like heros with easy the whole season. I didnt like how she never struggled and was overpowered the whole time.
@jimmylee9120
6 ай бұрын
Ya she literally grabbed all 6 stones in her hands at one point 😂😂
@israsheriff870
6 ай бұрын
And to think Tony died when he used the stones and hulk's hand got messed up but she didn't even had a scratch@@jimmylee9120
@daurydavis3983
6 ай бұрын
Another misogynist yikes
@hamhockbeans
6 ай бұрын
@@jimmylee9120Grabbed them Kahhori used her infinity power to transport them to Carter and they was still glowing blue. If anything Kahhori was protecting Carter.
@jaypey8253
6 ай бұрын
@hamhockbeans how was she protecting Carter? Kahori doesn't have power to protect others what are you talking about. Also the infinity stones have to make contact for the user to use them. Carter clearly grabbed them all. Even thanos was hurt just grabbing the powers tone. And he's a god like being It would have had a better impact if Carter lost her arm after that attack like hulk did. Hulk and thanos are over 10x stronger than super soldiers and thry were hurt
I think they should change name of what if season 2 series to Adventures of Captain Carter
@IronMan013
6 ай бұрын
Fr
Kahorri is definitely up there now with one of my favourite characters, i do have the same gripes of wish we had more, maybe not development, but just more.. very cool powerset, origins etc. but hope they make use of her more going forward
I'd say Dr Strange was the one who is OP since even with the stones and powered by just one, Peggy and Kohorri were no real match until gaining other items to get close enough yet, they got owned (- ^ ) The last ditch effort was an eye poke with the infinity stones and a few punches but In the end though, Strange beats Strange.
@Greenhawk4
6 ай бұрын
even with all of the power ups and stuff they couldn't even do as much as a scratch
@arianalikens5300
6 ай бұрын
Peggy only had the sones but she punched the demon outta of him
Peggy just seems to know how to do everything so easily.
@splanet5088
6 ай бұрын
She's always been a quick learner and very intuitive. The Super Soldier Serum in her just enhanced all of that.
@naxywaxy281
5 ай бұрын
@@splanet5088How?? Even Thanos can't use the stones perfectly as captain carter...More like she is a strong independent woman
@splanet5088
5 ай бұрын
@@naxywaxy281 Lil' Thanny
Peggy punching Strange with 6 infinity stones in her hand without any gauntlet or suit is killing my brain 🤦♂️😤
@raj_a_jaiswal
6 ай бұрын
"Women are experts with infinite power because they control their emotions infinitely more than men" - She Hulk
@aarishkhan942
6 ай бұрын
@@raj_a_jaiswal kuch bhi
@raj_a_jaiswal
6 ай бұрын
@@aarishkhan942 She Hulk said it. Not me.
@aarishkhan942
6 ай бұрын
@@raj_a_jaiswal it's She Hulk what do you expect🤦♂️
@raj_a_jaiswal
6 ай бұрын
@@aarishkhan942 Mary sue
I get what Jaby is saying about it feel rushed somehow... Like even the hela, Starlord, Nebula episodes feel useless in the grand scheme of things and they could have used them to expand on other characters like showing how Strange managed to catch all those people...
@yawsomeunknown2461
6 ай бұрын
You forget the purpose of the show. It's what if, not all have to be connected they all tell their own stories
@koketsommekoa
6 ай бұрын
@@yawsomeunknown2461 So you think it is okay to have off screen character developments while having random episode that just contribute nothing to grand finale because it is what if?
@Greenhawk4
6 ай бұрын
@@koketsommekoa in something like What If only the episode before the finale should be setting stuff up. I mean the point of the concept is alternate versions of events and characters we know. It doesn't have to be connected. I will say tho the second to last episode should have set up a bit of the finale as we went in a bit blind to this final episode.
@koketsommekoa
6 ай бұрын
@@Greenhawk4 I get the concept just don't understand why they didn't explore Kahori more
@Greenhawk4
6 ай бұрын
@@koketsommekoa honestly she should have been introduced somewhere else and not What If
I don't like M-she-u.... After watching this episode I confirm that its collapsing
@thatdudeishitless293
6 ай бұрын
What
@thedetective9522
6 ай бұрын
@@thatdudeishitless293 MCU
@daurydavis3983
6 ай бұрын
Poor little misogynist
@chipmunkishungry5237
3 ай бұрын
@@thatdudeishitless293 they don't like women characters being focused on
All of Kahhori's development took place on-screen. Her personality and character remained the same throughout, without and with her powers. She learned almost instantly, and onscreen, how to really master her powers.
I know this wasn't the best episode but still it was a lot of fun with a lot of crazy and cool stuff! And making captain carter Op wasn't that problematic for me, they gave her the most powerful weapons intentionally to make it a fair fight
@AlbertoMartinez765
6 ай бұрын
Yeah compared to the rest of the season this ep wasn't as Good and season 1 end of season was better. But I had fun.
@Greenhawk4
6 ай бұрын
nah but how does she just casually hold all 6 stones in her hand without anything happening when not only hulk almost lost his whole arm but also quill a literal half celestial almost died and the other guardians had to step in to help and that was only one stone yet she who is just a super soldier can just hold all of them at once and nothing happens that is just incredibly dumb.
@apoorvsingh4459
6 ай бұрын
@@Greenhawk4 first of all its not fair to compare something that happened in the main timeline and in a major movie to this which Is an animated show where such outrageous things happening are normal. And btw she had strange's protection spell on the entire time, that saved them against infinity Ultron too.
@Greenhawk4
6 ай бұрын
@@apoorvsingh4459 both are canon tho and should follow the same basic rules. Also nothing suggested they still had the spell and even then strange himself cast it and could easily counter/deactivate it.
@apoorvsingh4459
6 ай бұрын
@@Greenhawk4 they would have shown him removing the spell but they didn't.
This finale was cool, but I totally agree with Jaby that it felt like it needed to be extended to a two or three part story. Doing it in just 30 minutes seemed like we missed out on a lot of great potential build up. But other than that I liked everything else. 🙂 And What If…? as a whole has been easily cemented as my favorite MCU show so far.
The fuckers just killed Strange Supreme because he was too powerful, yet another death of a strong male character in the hands of an underdog woman. Marvel is really digging themselves into a hole here by going full M-She-U. The episode made no sense whatsoever, Strange's motivation didn't make sense, they destroyed all of his character development and destroyed him just so that Peggy can be the lead 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
@MiqelDotCom
6 ай бұрын
Strange Supreme is a "strong" male character? Lol, give me a break ... he let the death of his girlfriend destroy his mind, and he stole all his powers from other creatures that he absorbed. He's not strong, he's an obsessive loser who cheated his way into having powers he didn't earn.
@mohdzainlone
6 ай бұрын
@@MiqelDotComhow the fuck did he cheat by fucking absorbing demons for like thousands years?
@daurydavis3983
6 ай бұрын
Poor little misogynist
@pakaradeek
6 ай бұрын
I think This strange has to go , then only our cimematic strange would have major role after multiverse of madness
@lifewithmace2338
6 ай бұрын
exactly the bionic woman grabbed infinity stones with her bare hands and smashed strange with no efforts, while her shield was never scratched even, as if strange can't turn her shield into butteflies
She holds all the stones and nothing happens to her that's odd Hulk shatters his hand and Ironman died holding it I liked the episode till that moment
@JustDoAnything6
6 ай бұрын
That’s my problem with this finale.
@keyblox925
6 ай бұрын
@@JustDoAnything6 I do agree with you on that. I definitely think she could use it and survive it but we should’ve seen like a toll on her like Thanos like it’s making her weaker so she can’t keep using it but overall I did like this just a few problems
@arobin6695
6 ай бұрын
it's Captain Carter, she can do anything
@daurydavis3983
6 ай бұрын
Kilmonger altered the suit
@abhibasnet320
6 ай бұрын
@@daurydavis3983you can see at that moment she didn’t had the suit and she hold it bare hand
Seeing all the "Universe Killers" get released for one massive battle was what I was hoping for in Moon Knight finale when we saw the wall of imprisoned Gods trapped in their Ushabtis.
Peggy: this is madness Me: a… multiverse of madness
Strange should have been able to just clap them dead like a MOSQUITO. Show forced them to be OP.
@number1fool
6 ай бұрын
How so? They had all of the infinity stones and he wasn’t looking to kill Peggy
@baba0768
6 ай бұрын
@@number1fool Peggy shouldn't have been able to yield the stones ( she even held them in her hand 🤣). And kahhori had no development to be so strong suddenly.
@number1fool
6 ай бұрын
@@baba0768 they've kinda been inconsistent about who can and can't hold stones though, throughout the films. and Peggy had the armor that ultron was composed of in the season 1 finale. kahhori was super strong in her episode and she's presumably only gotten stronger since
@baba0768
6 ай бұрын
@@number1fool Still very weak writing
@number1fool
6 ай бұрын
@@baba0768 not sure I agree. If those were your two biggest concerns as far as how they stood a chance against Stephen.
The point of the Infinity Stones was not the delete half the people in the universe, Thanos could've deleted everyone if he wanted, but he was obsessed with the idea of balance and resources; the Infinity Stones can make more than just that but Thanos didn't want to
Kahorri lo mejor que he visto en estos últimos 3 episodios.
for me this episode is pure fun i enjoy it a lot 😆
1602 episode still my favorite. I didn’t care for the finale that much. Overall entertaining but didn’t like how they kept OP Captain Carter and Kahhori with no struggle whatsoever. Reminded me of Rey all over again except I like Carter and Kahhori. Retread Dr Supreme Strange’s grief of Christine felt like a step back. I suppose if executed differently or have more of a build up could have serviced the story better but I would have preferred something different.
@jaypey8253
6 ай бұрын
EXACTLY , I THOUGHT i was the only one, like she kept beating everyone and asgadians like their nothing. remmeber in avengers captain america barely made loki flinch, a super soldier is nothing to an asgardian even spiderman easily stopped bucky super arm like its nothing shes human but was fighting gods like its easy
@secicu
6 ай бұрын
Agreed fully! 1602 was stellar, really 💯👌⭐✅
@daurydavis3983
6 ай бұрын
She was struggling mentally, it doesn't always have to be physical
@hamhockbeans
6 ай бұрын
That the beauty of a series you don't have to like every episode
@spideyspits1667
6 ай бұрын
@@hamhockbeansLol stop
If we ever get a new Marvel Vs Capcom game we need both Captain Carter and Kahori as characters in that game!
Peggy knowing how to seamlessly use the power of infinity stones to battle with Strange who have been practicing magic for centuries seems odd and rushed
@kesharigaming6040
6 ай бұрын
Strange was fighting with his inner demons
@ujwalghimire3743
6 ай бұрын
@@kesharigaming6040 yeah Lazy writing ... All bad wasn't bad either 🤣
@dimazfantasy5252
6 ай бұрын
She is basically the 2nd Mary Sue after Rey from Star Wars
@Captianmex1C0
6 ай бұрын
Tony used them perfectly his first time as well
@jimmylee9120
6 ай бұрын
@@Captianmex1C0 and tony died from using it once. She never seemed to get hurt at all, although we also see hulks entire arm get destoryed after using the Stones are we spouse to believe that her serum made her more durable than hulk 😭😭😭
Strange's arc was similar to Wanda.
Felt too easy, it was barely an inconvenience for them to defeat all of the powerhouses.
@leonardocerqueiradias6168
6 ай бұрын
They barely won.
@jimmylee9120
6 ай бұрын
@@leonardocerqueiradias6168did you see carter struggling? Some how she can wield all 6 stones and she acctuly held all 6 in her hand at 1 point... That's why it felt so easy
@leonardocerqueiradias6168
6 ай бұрын
@@jimmylee9120 She can wield the stones (and hold in her hand too btw) becase she has the Infinity Armor. And she was briefed on each Stone power by the Watcher in the first season. It's suppose to be a fun ride. She struggled as much as any other character in any fighter in this show. I say they barely won, because they literally barely won. They needed all infinity stones, half the weapons of the MCU, two against one... and they still won just becausr the good part of Strange hold the demon in the end.
@looming416
6 ай бұрын
@@leonardocerqueiradias6168it’s ok to like it but you’re just making excuses for a poorly written episode full of plot holes and inconsistencies.
@leonardocerqueiradias6168
6 ай бұрын
@@looming416 Oh, it was FULL of plotholes! I'm not denying that at all. But saying they won "easily" is just untrue.
Dr. Strange is the biggest threat for MCU and Multiverse😮😮😮😮
Strange used shadow clone jutsu
Its fun from an action packed and visual standpoint. Cant say too much about the story
@jimmylee9120
6 ай бұрын
You could say this about most of the new MCU movies
damn they bought me with the vicresel at the end..
I didn't want strange to lose on top of that carter defeating him lol😂
@priyojeetmondal9883
6 ай бұрын
Carter didn't defeat him lol he sacrificed himself
@MD-br2my
6 ай бұрын
Actually he didn't loose
@priyojeetmondal9883
6 ай бұрын
@@MD-br2my exactly he was litterely fighting his inner demons
@joshuamendez9959
6 ай бұрын
Also, in our world he will survive???
@Belnick6666
6 ай бұрын
she is a woman, disney would ofc make her win, where have you been the last 10 y ???
The chapter was BEST, this is easily just proof of what we will surely see in Secret Wars. 😎😎😎😎
@koala322
6 ай бұрын
What u will see is feminine characters being OP and beating the shit out of everyone
@jimmylee9120
6 ай бұрын
Made no sense tho... How is Peggy Carter losing to strange supreme when he literally has like 100 different people on his walls that are world enders that he beat and captured? How just a fraction of the space stone can take away all of killmongers stones is ridiculous... How Peggy can wield and grab all six stones in one hand is also ridiculous.... Remember for much damage the Hulk took when he snapped in end game ? Remember how every single guardian of the galaxy had to touch just so they could grab one stone? 😂 They heavily nerved strange supreme and heavily buffed Peggy Carter
@LukasChovan
6 ай бұрын
@@jimmylee9120I dont think that they nerfed strange but yes I agree that peggy was buffed so much. Kahhori too, how tf
@rudrodeepchatterjee
6 ай бұрын
@@jimmylee9120except for the part where Carter held all the stones barehanded, the rest of it still made enough sense for me to not care. Killmonger learnt to use the stones immediately as he donned the suit in season 1. Ultron did too when he got the rest of the stones. Even Thanos learnt instantly to use the stones when he got them. So it made sense Carter could use the stones as she wanted right off, especially since she had seen what stuff you could do with them.
@jimmylee9120
6 ай бұрын
@@rudrodeepchatterjee no it did not make sense when Peggy or killmonger got to use all 6 stones. Ultron is an AI built out of viberanum so he makes sense, and Thanos is strong enough to beat the sh*t outta hulk (beginning of infinity war) so I think that also makes sense. Remember how much damage Hulk took from using the Stones? Or how all of the gaurdians needed to touch in order not to die just because quil grabbed a stone and quill is half human... Peggy is 100% human with super serum
MCU vs M-SHE-U That's what the episode was In my opinion
“He has wings” I too called up Bugs Bunny in my mind and said aloud, “I wonder if that crazy duck will remember he can fly?….hmm guess not”
We just need more wandaaaa
Strange supreme is hart of the what IF It took the combined power of long list of extremely powerful artifacts & kahori & also hahahaha lets not forget the infinity stones. Hahaha The freaking mighty STRANGE SUPREME Have a nice day❤
@Greenhawk4
6 ай бұрын
no strange had to sacrifice himself. even with all the powerups and stuff they did barely as much as a scratch
@naxywaxy281
5 ай бұрын
@@Greenhawk4yeap
Strange supreme really OP, even with all infinity stones and kahori powers they couldn't defeat him
This was a blast but there's a reason Jaby and I both enjoyed Andor so much... Room to breathe. Giving some of these stories time and space to breathe would be really nice.
Maybe I just feel we have too see this episode in this way "strange wanted to sacrifice himself but his inner demons was not letting him, so he chose Carter to do the work for him", like strange doesnt have to struggle so much to catch kahhori, he caught much more powerful characters before her, we can also see strange didn't fight seriously it was his demon form who was fighting, don't forget strange did most of fight in s1 and strange is so powerful that he can eat an galaxy level explosion.
I think Kahhori and Captain Carter can carry MCU forward 🎉🎉
@jimmylee9120
6 ай бұрын
😭😭 to failure maybe 😂 carter has already had way to many episodes revolving her, for a charchter that was barley in the MCU films.... Just seems like the "men bad, women good" agenda marvel has been pushing
@chrisevans9882
6 ай бұрын
@@jimmylee9120 If they make it good it'll be a success. If they make it bad then it'll be a disaster. I really liked Kahhori and Captain Carter in the series. If you hate them then just don't watch. 👍
@jimmylee9120
6 ай бұрын
@@chrisevans9882 buddy u sound crazy 😭 how are these 2 animated characters from a Disney plus show going to carry the MCU forward??
@chrisevans9882
6 ай бұрын
@@jimmylee9120 So you don't understand the meaning of my comment. It's ok 👍
It was a pretty fun idea and reminded me of when your got all the power in the end of a video game. It just had lots of problems like how carter didn't get hurt using the stones with her hand and how was Kahhori is able to use thors hammer with her powers. Probably needed another episode for some character development but overall it was at least a fun episode.
@Greenhawk4
6 ай бұрын
I mean maybe she was worthy but also she wasn't holding it with her physical being she was holding it with magic.
We need 1994 "Marvels" in this format ASAP!!!!
I hope next season there'll be a Kahhori sequel episode.
I like how none of them are Norman Osborn. Since most likely Miguel O’Hara would notice that
That was pretty fun but if I had the infinity stones AND all those powerful weapons and stuff, I'd find ways to combo the stone powers to make the other objects even more effective.
It was a great season. Also, hope you get to react to Blue Eye Sumurai.
I like know Peggy learned from movies and Steve learned from music
You're making good points Jaby about the whole thing overall.. And to one of your points, I don't understand why they restrict themselves to this amount of episodes, and that duration format per episode.. We're dealing with the "multiverse" and somehow they made it look like a subway train thing. They succeded in making the Infinity Saga "world" look as big as it should be, but they somehow failed the Multiverse Saga in that regard.
It wouldn't be a Disney+ series if the ending didn't feel a little rushed and somewhat disappointing 😊
Season 3 can’t come soon enough!
I think jaby was probably that kid in grade school who would lecture to the rest of the 7 year olds about how unrealistic the concept of Santa Claus was and then not really understand why they’d get upset.
Actually the worst episode in this season and writing. Wtf bro. Why they showed strange supreme again villain? He realized his mistake in previous season. And only two female superheroes defeat him easily even he defeated infinity ultron previous season. This is the real MSHEU series for me. They just wanted to develop captain Carter in this season. Why? Character development for Steve Rogers took fucking 10 years and ends amazingly. They showed the character development for captain Carter in 30 minutes. Even strange supreme have lot more experience compared them he took long time to form a powerful sorcerer. But this two female superheroes just become more powerful in a second. He is the only fan favorite powerful doctor strange but gone now 🤦
@daurydavis3983
6 ай бұрын
Poor little misogynist
@Greenhawk4
6 ай бұрын
he had no progression to begin with
Kahhori still has the Tesseract powers, that's how she can send everyone home, but everything else you mentioned was questionable.
@jimmylee9120
6 ай бұрын
Send all these world destroyer back to their world 😂😂😂 seems smart. Also does the Tesseract let them travel though the multiverse? Idk about that. I thought it was just teleportation. And she has a fraction of the space stones power. She doesn't even have the stone
@AlbertoMartinez765
6 ай бұрын
Those were Universes that were supposed to DIE anyway until Strange interfered so not really a Loss? Cap Marvel also doesn't have the actual STONE, never stopped her? They are OUTSIDE the Multiverse in Strange Sanctum so a lot less difficult to just push them back where they belong from there I am assuming. They have taken a lot of liberties and really depowered the Stones..@@jimmylee9120
@Greenhawk4
6 ай бұрын
@@jimmylee9120 to be fair when she fell in the space stone water she had the bullet wound and so it got into her body as well.
@jimmylee9120
6 ай бұрын
@@Greenhawk4 ya but it's still just a fraction of the power, and she doesn't have the stones either. She is just very skilled with the limited power she has
This season of What If has been so good. I enjoyed Season 1, but this one blew that one out of the water. The finale guest characters were way more than the last episode. It was nice to see characters from this season and last season. We finally found out what Strange was up to approaching heroes to come with him. I understand why he was doing it, but I really wish he had been able to move forward and focus on what he had and not what was lost. I do think that there needed to be two more episodes to the season. The Kahhori and the Strange finale stories should've been two episodes each. I personally would've liked the finale to be three episodes making the season 12 episodes instead of 9. Enjoyed the reaction 👍👍✌ out.
Per the rules of the MCU, that Infinity Stone suit shouldn't have worked at all because it's outside of its proper universe. Also calling bs on any of them (Strange included) surviving an entire collection of (pissed off) universe destroyers being unleashed, villains at that, especially Zombie-Wanda but it is what it is.
@frankbempong1154
6 ай бұрын
Bro it works outside its proper universe because there's still time, reality, space and so on so it works but you can't destroy it unless it's in the same universe it was made
@jimmylee9120
6 ай бұрын
@@frankbempong1154nah that's not true, in the comic's and in the Loki show the infinity stones don't work out side of their universe
@number1fool
6 ай бұрын
@@jimmylee9120 the stones don’t work in the tva. They work perfectly fine in other universes and always have in the MCU
@Greenhawk4
6 ай бұрын
@@jimmylee9120 the tva is outside of time pal.
Ep 9 should've been named, What if....we went bigger than Across the Spider verse.
I always though the term "M-She U" was stupid until now. This was EXACTLY what She Hulk made fun of Marvel third acts for going over the top. Oh an they killed off Thanos AGAIN?! This was ridiculous
@daurydavis3983
6 ай бұрын
Poor misogynist is crying again
@plague_seeker9354
6 ай бұрын
@@daurydavis3983Calling out dumb writing = Misogyny now? Yikes, way to prove the point dillweed
@looming416
6 ай бұрын
@@daurydavis3983you would think that you would want more than two dimensional female character but I guess that’s what you want🤷🏿♂️
@daurydavis3983
6 ай бұрын
@@looming416 I don't need to see a character struggle, that's a tiring trope
@daurydavis3983
6 ай бұрын
@@plague_seeker9354 except I didn't prove your point
Kohori should have had a movie or a tv series. She needs to be a main mcu character. Hopefully to find a way to put her in the main mcu. The show was alot of fun, it was just too short and needed some more time to cook.
@Greenhawk4
6 ай бұрын
agreed. what if isn't the place to introduce new characters as its supposed to be alternate versions of events and characters that already exist and that we know.
while watching what if I got theory the first season he said I swore an oath not to interfere I pretty sure he swore to loki the god of stories
Plot hole! At 6:28 infinity stones aren’t meant to work in other universes, only in their respective universes
@number1fool
6 ай бұрын
That was never a thing. They work perfectly fine in other universes and always have. They just don’t work in the TVA.
@xoxopaul7088
6 ай бұрын
@@number1fool bro infinity stones don’t work in any universe except their own, everybody knows that lmao
@number1fool
6 ай бұрын
@@xoxopaul7088 tell me exactly where in the MCU they specified that they don’t work outside of their own universe…in the over 10 years and dozens of hours worth of footage that they explicitly point that out
@xoxopaul7088
6 ай бұрын
@@number1fool first, check out comics or google if you haven’t read the comics, secondly, we have only seen one universe (earth 616) in MCU in 10 years you’re talking about. You can search it up, they don’t not work in TVA, yes, but they also don’t work elsewhere, if they had, loki would’ve definitely stolen one to use in other universes lol
@number1fool
6 ай бұрын
@@xoxopaul7088 are the comics and the MCU projects 100% consistent on the infinity stones/gems lore?
16:55 Strange Supreme is immune to reality warping. Haven't you seen epiosde 4 of what if season 1??...his universe got destroyed (including the stones and everyone and everything) but he didn't die and erased.
Did u get all the episodes in advance? Those outfits seem familiar 🤔
@Greenhawk4
6 ай бұрын
probably another channel I watched called reel rejects also got the episodes in advance and mentioned it as well. apparently they didn't even know what the title of the episodes were.
what if season 3 is kahori's time to shine much like what happened to captain peggy carter at the end of season 1
@jimmylee9120
6 ай бұрын
That would be garbage 😂😂😂 but I wouldn't put it past the morons working at marvel 😂😂 they thought that Peggy is able to wield all 6 stones without any damage
If you plan to watch season 3, please wear the same shirt for every episode as well
She was in ep 6. This is ep 9. Not a 5 episode gap lol
So much of so little. This just felt like caffeine-fueled fanfiction. I just wanted one-off, self-contained stories and I guess I'm not going to get that, so I'm done with it. Never mind the elephant in the room that won't stop beating the dead horse.
@daurydavis3983
6 ай бұрын
Keep crying
@synical13
6 ай бұрын
@@daurydavis3983 I don't feed trolls.
@daurydavis3983
6 ай бұрын
@@synical13 you're the troll, not me
BEST EPISODE EVER
@Julv_
6 ай бұрын
Not at all. This episode has so many flaws
13:13 if i had to pick one main character to make this season around it would DEFINITELY have been strange supreme or killmonger or even the hela that was good 😂😂😂 imo carter was not the right choice, at least they could have picked some one big from the mcu that was liked
@babasahebghule3624
6 ай бұрын
Gr8 summarization of my feelin if cap America was one defeating strange I would have liked cuz I know journey of cap his sacrifice his values so invested in his story but peggy😅
@Khann_2102
6 ай бұрын
This Female Cap never seem to really struggle in the fights somehow
@daurydavis3983
6 ай бұрын
More misogynists
@IronMan013
6 ай бұрын
@@babasahebghule3624 Yep, Carter never struggled, she just keeps on fighting and ultimately everything works out fine
Kahhori is now my favorite speedster
@jimmylee9120
6 ай бұрын
😭😭 she was literally hit by a sheild thrown by Peggy while running at "super speed" how does that make sense?
@number1fool
6 ай бұрын
@@jimmylee9120what was supposed to happen?
This has been a pretty amazing season. The MCU isn't in the greatest of shape with most of their movies as of late, but they're knocking it out of the park with this and Loki and Echo looks like it'll be pretty awesome too. I know animation is the only way this show can happen, but I can't help but think of how much more incredible it'd be if it were done in live action. I like how Peggy Carter seemed to be the focus this time around too. Now I'm wishing the Captain Carter version of her could've existed in the main timeline where she could interact with the characters we know, not to mention she and Steve could be together. Imagine how cool it would've been for them to fight side by side and then have some crazy super soldier sex afterwards lol. Yeah, I know they ended up together by the end of Endgame, but still.
@harrisonskelton6934
6 ай бұрын
No it hasn't 😂. Half of season 2 was guardians and the other half was with Carter. It was garbage bud 😂.
@ChrisTheAspergerGuy
6 ай бұрын
@@harrisonskelton6934 The Guardians and Peggy Carter are some of my favorite characters, so I have to disagree. Besides, there were plenty of episodes without them, so I don't know what you're talking about.
I personally feel season 1 finale was better and wayyy too intense
@ArceePrimes
6 ай бұрын
I think and feel both season finales were just as good.
@IronMan013
6 ай бұрын
Well both the seasons went pretty well but season 1 finale was much much better
Hated what they did with Strange Supreme. Even before the season started I thought "they'd better not make him a villain and fight him, that would be just lazy and predictable" and that's exactly what they did. First they make an OP character then they get rid of him because he's so OP. He already redeemed himself in season 1, why make him villain again? Ah yes, because that's the easiest way out.
Requiring a Disney+ subscription to watch the full review feels pretty greedy on Disney’s part. No offense to ya’ll. Didn’t know Disney required that on someone’s own patreon.
Everyone thinks Wanda’s turn in MoM was out of nowhere, but the end of Wandavision very clearly showed her using the Darkhold, fully knowing it’s evil and corruptive powers. WV set up her villain arc
@number1fool
6 ай бұрын
So wait, how long did we see her using that again? 3 seconds max?
@jjfam777
6 ай бұрын
It's not even so much that. It's that the entirety of MoM is a retreading of her arc in Wandavision. Same arc. Same resolution only this time she dies. Strange Supreme suffers from the same problem here but at least his resolution is slightly different
You guys wore the same clothes for 9 days straight? 😆
Ok so wait a moment, if Loki’s tree is their when exactly does quantumania and what if take place?
@famousthaneus9810
6 ай бұрын
What If can be seen as a taking place outside of time, just like the Loki series, because it's pure multiversal shenangians. It doesn't really matter to anything when What If takes place; Quantumania on the other hand does have a fixed point in time, which would be after Endgame
@alexanderalbuck9125
6 ай бұрын
@@famousthaneus9810 ok, I’m just wondering in the case of like Loki and the post credit scene of quantumania because we see the sacred timeline branching out at the end of Loki s01 and Quantumania which means quantum takes place directly after s01 I think.
I don’t like they gave supreme strange the MOM Wanda treatment, they both learnt from their mistakes and redeemed themselves the last time we saw them, then they turned evil when we meet them again.
@looming416
6 ай бұрын
At least Wanda was being corrupted by the dark hold as her reason to go crazy strange just appeared again it was was like oh I’m bad now.
@Greenhawk4
6 ай бұрын
@@looming416 he never had any progression is why
Jaby you did watch Loki? The stones are paper weights, yeah they’ve already reduced to nothing 😂
@jimmylee9120
6 ай бұрын
That's cause they were taken out of their universe. Stones don't work outside of their universe, that's true everywhere other than in "what if"
@Greenhawk4
6 ай бұрын
@@jimmylee9120 ur dumb its because the tva is outside of time.
This season can be a big fat 2/10 for all I care. The animation is still dope, I think they did really well, but dialogue was being so unbelievably Marvel it made me sick. Then this episode?? Like if Strange is supposedly stuck in his universe on his own, why would he start doing this?? Are there gonna be no lessons learnt, and if not, why wouldn't we see it? It's like they planned too many stupid jokes instead of actually expanding on ideas. Hell, they didn't even give time for SILENCES. Like fuck's sake. I actually liked What If. Now I'm not so sure.
@Greenhawk4
6 ай бұрын
strange had no progression so he absolutely would still try to get Christine back
@harrisonskelton6934
6 ай бұрын
@@Greenhawk4season 2 is garbage 😂
@Greenhawk4
6 ай бұрын
@@harrisonskelton6934 it’s really not
Last season finale was good this season finale made me say for the first time that MCU has completely become MSheU Even Young Avengers teased are girls Why this much feministic?
@Scorpio_Jeff
6 ай бұрын
why is 90 % of MCU White males?
@daurydavis3983
6 ай бұрын
Dude the original avengers only had one woman but you people didn't complain
so dumb and now peggy can hold all infinity stones in one one without getting vaporized......because female is power......ffs disney
@lifewithmace2338
6 ай бұрын
exactly bruh the bionic woman grabbed infinity stones with her bare hands and smashed strange with no efforts, while her shield was never scratched even, as if strange can't turn her shield into butteflies
the infinity stones would not be able to erase strange, he exceded the stones powers with how many entities are inside him, but yes she didnt even use all the stones, needed more experience i guess.
@jimmylee9120
6 ай бұрын
Are you not wondering how a human was able to wield all six stones with 0 drawbacks?
@JustDoAnything6
6 ай бұрын
@@jimmylee9120that’s biggest upset for me in this finale. How they didn’t think it through what they established in various occasions during whole mcu.
@thatdudeishitless293
6 ай бұрын
@@JustDoAnything6Didn’t Strange in the same episode give her armor the protected the team from the stones last season?
@Doom-25
6 ай бұрын
@@thatdudeishitless293yes
@JustDoAnything6
6 ай бұрын
@@thatdudeishitless293 she was holding all infinity stones in her hand while punching strange and we already seen in guardians of galaxy even star lord didn’t escape unharmed by holding only power stone.
NGL.....wanted strange to win.....also what if? is better multiverse of madness then multiverse of madness.....
@number1fool
6 ай бұрын
At the expense of all of those lives?
This show is undoing pretty much everything in the MCU. Hulk lost his arm using the Gauntlet. Iron Man died. Thanos also lost his arm. Just so Peggy could use it eith ease. I don't mind that they are giving her plot armor but at least remember what happened in the movies. You are telling me we lost Iron Man for nothing? Just so someone else could do what he did and survive.
episode was ok. I think the hela episode was peak for season 2 but for peak for the show so far is the strange episode from season 1.
Hi chine pals what if season 3 trailer was just released
I'm not any stans or something I love all the character of mcu! So don’t mix me with those stuffs! The logic is Kahhori wrapped around the infinity stones with her space stone magic so that #peggycarter/#CaptainCarter doesn’t get hurt 2nd #peggycarter/#captaincarter was able to wield #thorhulk's sword and wore #hela's crown cause Asgardian relics is worn by worthies like how #steverogers able to wield mjolnir as they earn their worthiness as warrior! hela also give worthy approve saying "give him hel"and also we saw in hela°s episode about asgardian relics worthiness 3-#kahhori and #atahraks is a living space stone same for #wanda & #captainmarvel & other chrcter who hve interct with stones. #kahhori still uses her spce stne magic to wield mjolnir & ten rings. surely she is also worthy to hold them bare hand as she earns her worthy in her episode
The Loki series was the first show to reduce the power of the infinity stones.
What If... Season 2 felt like someone's shit fanfiction.
For me, season 2 overall better than season 1, but season 1 finale much better than season 2 finale, better buildup to it as well Still overall it's great, both season 1 and 2
@jimmylee9120
6 ай бұрын
Nah now that season 2 is complete you can see how useless 1,3,4, and 7 have been for this season 😭 could have used thoes episodes to focus more on strange, killmonger, and kahhori. We get back to strange in the last episode and he's evil again
@RSawR
6 ай бұрын
@@jimmylee9120 yeah coming to think of it, true
@IronMan013
6 ай бұрын
@@jimmylee9120 except 4 maybe, Ironman episode was really good, it felt like I was watching iron man again
What the hell ?? Why didnt she use those stones to snap strange out of existence ? Like Thanos did in the movie ? And how did Kahhori suddenly speaks English ??
@ObiEdits
6 ай бұрын
cuz she was with Strange for a for few days/weeks, so she probably practice english from him, she also speak Spanish as well in her episode at the end when trying to reason the Queen
@jimmylee9120
6 ай бұрын
@@Mr.J503that would have been a great episode to see 😂😂 probably better than 1,3,4
@daurydavis3983
6 ай бұрын
You people never seem to pay attention
I dont understand how Peggy coupd hold all the stones. That made no sense. Kahoori powers were explained by the stone that gave her her powers. I didnt have a problem with that. I like her a lot
It was so much and it happened so fast... Too much info for 30 minutes. The ending was cool. I can buy strange being the bad guy because the inner demon used strange grief against him and he couldn't stop it. But he sacrificed himself for Christine in the end... I guess his ark is closed.
There is a steering of rumors thst in season 3 marvel connected everything from the loki ending and this ending to a much more endless of possibilities they gonna introduce the X-Men Finally.
@rygornspectre7142
6 ай бұрын
Peggy and Uwatu just share a picnic with Loki chilling on his throne.😊
Dr Supreme strange STRANGELY LOST TO HIMSELF 😢. Peggy or even anyone cant possibly defeat him
What happened to all the Phase Four and Five characters? Where's Ms Marvel,Shang Chi and Sam Wilson?!
@arobin6695
6 ай бұрын
captain carter is the only one that matters
I wish we had enough good critics like jaby. The ladies in this channel are too overly positive 14:16
I would of very much like that to white hella showes up
It was important to show hela and wenwu episode to show that there is good in there and they would sacrifice their weapons at the end for Carter and super fast girl
@Greenhawk4
6 ай бұрын
wasn't the ones from the episode but ok
@Br0wnCh3
6 ай бұрын
@@Greenhawk4 no shit Sherlock. It would make no sense to a lot of viewers if her episode did not exist and she just randomly throws her helmet at carters feet while facing death. The point is to show, she has still some good inside that evil fasard. If u cannot comprehend that, so be it.
@Greenhawk4
6 ай бұрын
@@Br0wnCh3 ur wording literally suggested you thought it was the same hela and wenwu.
@Br0wnCh3
6 ай бұрын
@@Greenhawk4 no it did not. You just miss understood the interpretation
@Greenhawk4
6 ай бұрын
@@Br0wnCh3 no you just can’t word a sentence properly.