If you go to villa park, you can see history, when you go to west ham, you see Tescos😂.

@waynephillips3234

5 ай бұрын

You would have to be about 140 years old to see villas history 😂😂

@michaelgriffin2716

5 ай бұрын

or possibly just 27 but ok @@waynephillips3234

West Ham - 0 league titles, 0 ucls Aston Villa - 7 league titles, 1 ucl Laughable 'debate' lmao

@eL--RaL

6 ай бұрын

That's all you need to say to own them 😂😂👍

@nicmonberg5974

6 ай бұрын

That is meaningless. Premier League - 0 Europa - 0 Champions League - 0 Won European Cup back in 81-82 and West ham also have one of these 64-65 (Last time they won anything was 95-96 League Cup) West Ham won last season Europa Conf Bigger is to do with fan base and global income/club rep West Ham wins on all of those.

@fifty-five6929

6 ай бұрын

​@@nicmonberg5974Mate tf no it's not being the bigger club is about success Villa have won the UCL you haven't it's that simple

@calm123

6 ай бұрын

​@@nicmonberg5974West Ham still have never won modern day PL or CL so whats your point?

@matthewdavis417

6 ай бұрын

@@nicmonberg5974Villa are bigger globally

As a west ham fan I’m sure that 99% of us know that historically Villa are better.

@paulmersonvillalegend1192

5 ай бұрын

& a *Bigger* club

Villa are the original Goliath of English football, I’m a Liverpool fan

@yippyialeftside8351

6 ай бұрын

First real super club I would say in England ok Preston maybe fews years but not big enough to sustain bigger city clubs around them, Villa 1888 to the first world war to a lesser extent till the early 30s then other clubs had to catch up with 6 league's 6 fa cups n runner's up places, West Ham a fantasy of the southern media and the Big Match, top 3 once, great players yes give em that, fa cups yes 3 in more modern era rest laughable

@waynephillips3234

6 ай бұрын

​@@yippyialeftside8351it was easier to be big and successful in the 1800's only 10 teams existed

@TheAlphaDingo

6 ай бұрын

LiVARpool fan = tourist fan. Tourist fan = casual fan. Bruh, you don't know anything

@JoshuaWilkinson-xs8zx

6 ай бұрын

@@TheAlphaDingomate are you even English ?

@markpotter6594

6 ай бұрын

You know you're history 😂 I'm impressed, and thank you ❤💜💙

Not only are villa astronomically bigger than West Ham, they’re the 6th biggest club in the country. 6th most major trophies 1 of those being the European cup, founder of the football league. West Ham wear claret and blue because of us

@19822andy

18 күн бұрын

Yeah those cheeky cockneys snideyed us out of 15 claret and blue kits. Our boys wouldn't have raced them if the London lads were honest about being professional runners. Crystal Palace also took our colours to honour us as did clubs all over Europe. Palace changed to red and blue to distance their colours but it's football history. William McGregor, the Villa chairman invented the football league and he was the one who asked others to join. 1874

Paul Ross - Once a Tw*t always a Tw*t

I honestly don’t think people realise how big villa actually are..and if that club ever gets champions league or just starts to get European football on a regular basis again then that’ll really show it

@languageoffootball

5 ай бұрын

People used to say that about Man City in the 90s/2000s when they were getting huge crowds in lower leagues, but then when they got took over people called them a small club. You can’t win either way with infantile media and rival fans.

@yusavelli0448

5 ай бұрын

@@languageoffootball football fans are so annoying

@languageoffootball

5 ай бұрын

@@yusavelli0448 yes it’s like rinse and repeat everyday.

@paulsullivan6343

5 ай бұрын

Chelsea and Arsenal fanbase nowhere as big as ours

@languageoffootball

4 ай бұрын

@@paulsullivan6343 whose?

Liverpool fan and there is no argument, Villa is bigger.

@phillydavison

6 ай бұрын

Respect to you from a Villa fan, Liverpool are the biggest club in England in my humble opinion and achieved what they have without becoming a jk club like Chelski, Abu Dhabi and soon to be Saudis.

@waynephillips3234

6 ай бұрын

They won most of their trophies in the 1800's

@elliotbarratt820

6 ай бұрын

Always mate, it’s not even a debate I’d it 🤣 utv 💜

@changnoi3637

6 ай бұрын

@@waynephillips3234 no true, 8 trophies before 1900, 13 after

I'd never judge a clubs success on stadium capacity it's what's in that cabinet that counts

@seasonedbeefs

6 ай бұрын

They should own the stadium for starters

@carter3369

6 ай бұрын

Not necessarily. Man City have won trophies but aren’t a big club. They just have rich owners. Same with Chelsea.

@tt99football56

5 ай бұрын

​@@carter3369They're a big club now, 9 league titles, a CL & elite level revenue only a few clubs can match.

@danielward7008

5 ай бұрын

London bias from Groves here. Aston Villa are far bigger than West Ham. The fourth biggest club in London vs the biggest club by miles in the Midlands.

@danielward7008

5 ай бұрын

@@tt99football56 They're not even the biggest club in Manchester. Without the oil money they'd be a lower half PL team.

Talking as a European who's approaching 30 and knows a thing or two about history, Villa is bigger than West Ham. Not even close. Villa has won first of all, a European Cup. West Ham has won a Europa Conference League. Point to Villa. And no, "World Cup" doesn't count as a club trophy. Villa has won 7 championships, and West Ham's best league table finish is 3rd place. That happened only once, back in the 80s. Another point to Villa. And just overall, Villa has finished higher in the League more times than West Ham, in the 21st Century. Those are facts. The only thing in which West Ham seems to be better, is the players that have worn their shirt, and that's debatable. However as a club, Villa's bigger overall.

@kayjeetv823

6 ай бұрын

Well said 👏

@waynephillips3234

6 ай бұрын

West ham are bigger than villa on every aspect bar trophies and villa won most of their trophies in the 1800's when only 10 teams existed ! Villa have also played in division 3 west ham haven't

@ryanc9754

6 ай бұрын

​@waynephillips3234 even utd, pool fans think villa are bigger. London has a population almost 8x Birmingham ofc you will get more fans there. Globally villa are a much bigger club than West ham.

@waynephillips3234

6 ай бұрын

@@ryanc9754 then they are just proving that they are plastic man utd and Liverpool fans who know nothing about football ! West ham are bigger than villa on every aspect and have been more successful since they joined the football league

@waynephillips3234

6 ай бұрын

@@kayjeetv823 west ham are bigger than villa on every aspect ! Villa only have more trophies because they were winning them in the 1800's before most clubs existed ! West ham been theore successful club since they joined the football league ! In the past 60 years west hams average league position is 8th and villa's is 9th

So basically West Ham are a bigger club than us because they're a London club in a bigger stadium that they inherited? What a load of rubbish!

@jkl92590

6 ай бұрын

I'd say club size based on right now, there's not much of a difference (based on who players would want to sign for). But our fan base would edge it.

@115ffpandthephantomtreble

6 ай бұрын

They ponced that stadium

@waynephillips3234

6 ай бұрын

​@@115ffpandthephantomtreblehardly ponced when we wanted to buy it

@jeriswani6062

5 ай бұрын

Yeah West Ham are bigger than Chelsea

@115ffpandthephantomtreble

5 ай бұрын

@@jeriswani6062 they will be after ffp finished with them

West Ham borrowed Villa kits for their first game. If it wasn’t for Villa, West Ham wouldn’t be claret and blue. Villa is a way bigger club.

@JackTheladd

6 ай бұрын

True story. UTV!

@UNIT-xh7qc

6 ай бұрын

lol maybe Vila have a history, right now West Ham have the bigger fan base the bigger stadium, with bigger attendances, therefore the bigger cluib. Note I am not saying the better side villa showed that when they won 4-1 at villa park

@georgewilliams8322

6 ай бұрын

@@UNIT-xh7qccourse there gonna have bigger attendances there have a bigger stadium 😂😂, villa park is getting a extension anyway because of the demand for tickets ! On a global level villa have a larger fan base. Made massive links to Africa and Asia through the club reaching out through charity and media routes. Not even close, West Ham’s history doesn’t even touch villas. The biggest club in the midlands also.

@SoulsofEmber99

6 ай бұрын

notts county gave their kit to juventus, does that makes notts bigger? villa is a has been club

@waynephillips3234

6 ай бұрын

​@@georgewilliams8322villa won most of their trophies in the 1800's when only 10 teams existed and West ham sell out a 62k stadium and have another 55k on the waiting list

West Ham bigger than Villa is laughable 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Im a west ham fan and villa are a bigger club. Wouldnt swap our trophy last year for a european cup before I was born though

@michaelgriffin2716

5 ай бұрын

good job were not asking you to then jog on

@Salacious-Crumb

5 ай бұрын

We will win it this season I'm sure , I actually like west ham , when I lived in London I used to go to the occasional west ham game when I needed to see a match , they became more London team .. who cares who's bigger I don't even know how you measure that ... but we're both great proper clubs UTV

@MindSurf248

5 ай бұрын

@@Salacious-Crumb Very well said

I’m a Tottenham fan and absolutely no way West Ham are bigger than villa !

@thevoiceofingrates

5 ай бұрын

No arsenal bigger then spurs

@TPL13a

5 ай бұрын

That’s not the topic

@philip013

5 ай бұрын

No need to embarrass yourself by telling us you support Spuds.

@TPL13a

5 ай бұрын

Embarrassing supporting spam

@Villa006

5 ай бұрын

Villa>💀

From a Chelsea fan, villa are about the same size as arsenal I’d say villa take an edge. West Ham does not come close in the conversation.

@philip013

5 ай бұрын

And support wise, West Ham and Aston Villa are way bigger than Chelsea.

Major Honors - West Ham = 3 FA Cups and the Europa Conference - Aston Villa = 7 League Titles 7 FA Cups and the European Cup

@jamiewilden

6 ай бұрын

And 5 league cups don’t forget

@waynephillips3234

6 ай бұрын

Villa won most of them in the 1800's when only 10 teams existed ! West ham have also won the cup winners cup

@temporaryuseraccount0012

6 ай бұрын

​@@waynephillips3234West Ham have only won one trophy (last season), since 81/82, which up until then, was your "most recent trophy" ... for 42 years!!! Villa won the most prestigious trophy in football the European Cup in that same year 81/82, but also followed that up with the European Supercup in 82/83. Villa also won two league cups in 93/94 and 95/96, while West Ham were celebrating at that point a 14 year trophy drought (which eventually became 42 years). And while Villa were lifting the biggest prize in club football the European Cup, West Ham were merely celebrating becoming champions .... of the "second tier" in the English league (oh dear!). So, zero trophies in 42 years for the Hammers, and you wanna talk about "historical victories?" 🤣 Man's a comedian ... West Ham's victories are "hysterical" by comparison to Villa's. Buy hey, Villa have a chance to win the "Mickey Mouse Conference" this season too. Lol! 🤣 And by the way, you forgot to return our kit that you borrowed! 🤣

Has everyone gone mad! 😅 Aston Villa are way bigger than West Ham. UTV 💜

@gman4473

6 ай бұрын

In terms of fans we are bigger in terms of trophies it's villa.

@waynephillips3234

6 ай бұрын

West ham are bigger than villa on every aspect bar trophies and villa win most of there's in the 1800's when only 10 teams existed

@elliotbarratt820

6 ай бұрын

@@waynephillips3234 well your deluded then 😂😂

@thesmartonenot320

5 ай бұрын

​@@waynephillips3234i wonder where your clubs kit comes from 🤔

As a West ham fan, I think that villa are a terrific team and have a lot of history also! They’re a big club & this season they’re showing it, hopefully they continue for the rest of the season apart from when they’re against West ham 😅

@Salacious-Crumb

5 ай бұрын

I also like west ham they were the club I'd go watch when I lived in London.. I lived in Leyton but they were awful lol .. never watched a game at the new stadium but it looks massive from outside UTV

As a toon fan villa are far bigger it isn’t even a debate

West Ham, top 6 ,6 times. Villa top 6 ,46 times. Hammers are the biggest failure in the entire league.

@waynephillips3234

5 ай бұрын

Villa we're only good in the 1800's before west ham existed lol

1. Manchester United 2. Liverpool 3. Arsenal 4. Aston Villa Other clubs can argue about who makes a top 10 but if your clubs “success” is based on a wealthy owner that’s not a footballing story . You may as well buy trophies and stick them in the trophy cabinet

@carter3369

6 ай бұрын

Arsenal are a bigger club than Liverpool

@mthornton4096

5 ай бұрын

For all I agree with you that they are successful , don’t act like none of these teams have spent money. Success has always had financial backing. Even the ‘Class of 92’ was propped up by Keane, who was a British Record Transfer fee when he was bought. Liverpool spent fortunes in the 80’s at the time. Klopp likes to act like he found Mo Salah down the back of his couch. Money has always been in the background

@nautile2

5 ай бұрын

If aston villa are there everton are there.

@linky8899

5 ай бұрын

@@nautile2 Everton haven'thad the success Villa have had

@nautile2

5 ай бұрын

are you kidding?!?!? everton have won 9 league titles, and have managed to not get relegated from top flight football!@@linky8899

Aside from the history / honours, big clubs don’t wear the other clubs strips. Check out the reason why West Ham wear claret and blue. They literally owe their colours to Villa. End of debate - nuff said! 🙂

untill the START of the premier league aston villa had more top flight points and more top flight goals then anyone else 100 years at the top so its a huge club bigger then spurs

Watching these argue who’s clubs bigger is like watching two bald fellas fighting over a comb

@antoniofranco6813

5 ай бұрын

I thought it was pretty funny

@mrsensible3560

5 ай бұрын

How’s that? Villa are the 6th biggest club in England. West Ham are a “big club” in the same way Sheffield Wednesday are a “big club” Villa are MASSIVE, West Ham are big

How did west ham get there colours From the villa

Cundy can't relate to a club being massive in terms of attendance as Stamford bridge was always empty prior to roman bankrolling them 😂

@robburnell3650

5 ай бұрын

​@@jurgenklinsman5199100% correct

@richardevans7035

5 ай бұрын

The cars parked behind the goals and the dog track around the pitch affected the crowds 😂😂

Villa Park holds 42000 at the moment and soon to be around 55000. Villa have a season ticket waiting list of around 30000. Until West Ham moved, Villa had far bigger crowds.

@TheWESTSIDE1967

5 ай бұрын

We get 62,000 & have similar on waiting list, WEST HAM are bigger not even up for debate

@waynephillips3234

5 ай бұрын

West ham sell out a 62k stadium and have 55000 on the waiting list

@michaelgriffin2716

5 ай бұрын

@@waynephillips3234 🤣🤣🤣

Aston villa the original team in claret and blue and the biggest team and club in claret and blue

@jkl92590

6 ай бұрын

When people think of a team in claret and blue, everyone always says west ham for a reason ⚒️

@thevoiceofingrates

6 ай бұрын

@@jkl92590 only in London

@temporaryuseraccount0012

6 ай бұрын

​@@jkl92590 Your definition of "Everyone" = either "plastics (who know nothing about the game)", or... fans with no hair downstairs" (too young to buy beer).

@jkl92590

6 ай бұрын

@temporaryuseraccount0012 You're just waffling a load of rubbish mate. Just basing it on experience, everyone knows of West Ham for a reason.

@temporaryuseraccount0012

5 ай бұрын

@@jkl92590 because it's West of East Ham.

West ham bigger than villa? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@waynephillips3234

6 ай бұрын

They are

@jamesharle1754

6 ай бұрын

@@waynephillips3234 don't be silly

@waynephillips3234

6 ай бұрын

@@jamesharle1754 how am I being silly? They have a bigger fanbase, bigger stadium, bigger attendances, bigger revenue, bigger club value and have been more successful since they joined the football league

@ashwilliams4959

6 ай бұрын

​@waynephillips3234 villa have more trophies so they've not been more successful.. the idea football only started in the 90s is stupid, the business corruption started then, the game was still here

@waynephillips3234

6 ай бұрын

@@ashwilliams4959 they have more trophies if you count the ones they won in the 1800's when west ham didn't exist ! Since west ham joined the football league west ham have have won more trophies

City fan here, I’m with villa (finally) 👍🏿😂

@philip013

5 ай бұрын

West Ham and Villa are bigger than City.

@bennybaqschlap1537

5 ай бұрын

@@philip013 that’s just silly talk,come on now 😂

This is the problem, half of the villa fans are thick. I’m a villa fan but I have no idea why some blokes come on talking about being a founding club. Imo, that doesn’t make you a big club. That just meant you had good timing. Besides the point, we’re miles bigger than West Ham. We have won 20 major titles and West Ham have won 4. Ours include the league (x7) and the Champions league. They haven’t won either. Their talk about stadium capacity - what a load of shite. They got that stadium because it was made for the olympics. They didn’t even build the damn thing. Birmingham has a population of 1m, compared to London’s 8.5m. Of course you’re going to sell out. We sell out every week and have 25k people on our waiting list. If any West Ham fan thinks they’re a bigger club, they need to give their head a wobble.

@neon5433

5 ай бұрын

Spurs fan but I agree Villa are the bigger club.

This Paul bloke is taking the piss surely 🤣

West Ham have only won one trophy (last season), since 81/82, which up until then, was their "most recent trophy" ... for 42 years!!! Villa won the most prestigious trophy in football the European Cup in that same year 81/82, but also followed that up with the European Supercup in 82/83. Villa also won two league cups in 93/94 and 95/96, while West Ham were celebrating at that point a 14 year trophy drought (which eventually became 42 years). And while Villa were lifting the biggest prize in club football the European Cup, West Ham were merely celebrating becoming champions .... of the "second tier" in the English league (oh dear!). So, zero trophies in 42 years for the Hammers, and they wanna talk about Aston Villa's success being "historical victories?" 🤣 ... West Ham's victories are "hysterical" by comparison to Villa's. Buy hey, Villa have a chance to win the "Mickey Mouse Conference" this season too. Lol! 🤣 And by the way, you lot forgot to return our football kits that you borrowed! 🤣

…and this is why Paul Ross is rarely seen in daylight. 💜💙

I 💯 agree with Cundy the coke man ! 🤣🤣🤣

How many league titles for West Ham United?

Population of London 8.5 million Population of Birmingham 1 million The argument of their are more clubs to chose from and they still get 60k is nonsense as there are a lot more people in London.

@TheWESTSIDE1967

5 ай бұрын

Er you been to London mate recently ⚒

As a business, West Ham are bigger by quite a way (turnover is much higher), all other criteria (Fan base, Brand, Trophies, History) its Villa but I am biased. No beef with West Ham so lets not create.

Forest and Villa are both easily bigger clubs than West Ham.

If you had a poll of only neutrals fans I’d guarantee 100% Aston Villa would come out on top every time. He’s talking absolute ballocks, they’ve won three trophies in their history congratulations on winning the Europa conference last season but I’m sorry your not nowhere near as bigger club as *Aston Villa!*

@mrsensible3560

5 ай бұрын

They’ve won more than that come on… But you’re right the disparity would be measured on a galactic scale between the two clubs. Villa are massive, West Ham are big

Let's be fair here. Aston Villa are a bigger club than West Ham. This is such a silly argument.

Aston Villa then Forest then West Ham

@waynephillips3234

6 ай бұрын

West ham average nearly as much as both of them clubs put together lol

Villa are definitely a bigger club. Probably as many Man Utd fans in London as there are West Ham supporters. That’s how appealing they are.

@waynephillips3234

5 ай бұрын

You talk rubbish west ham sell out a 62k stadium.and have 55000 on the waiting list villa struggle to fill villa park

West ham thru and thru but fanbase wise I'd say were bigger historically trophy wise villa win ever day that European cup and league titles speak 4 themselves

@Ben-gd4db

6 ай бұрын

Villa have a much bigger fan base. After the "big 6" the next tier down is Villa, Everton and Newcastle. West ham aren't in the picture

@gororo14

5 ай бұрын

Villa are in a region of 5 million people with about a third of those people, 2.2 million of them are Villa fans.

Fulham are bigger than west ham

Oh good, yet another meaningless discussion about the size of a club and how its not as big as another. It is literally the dullest and idiotic discussion in football and means nothing to anyone. Support the club you love, everything else is noise.

@TomAndrews91

6 ай бұрын

Peak international break radio.

Liverpool and Man United bigger than Villa and I’d say that is it

@j.s3300

6 ай бұрын

Arsenal

I was 17 years old when I found out that we got our kit from them

As a Villa fan, I found that segment tragic! The Anne Boleyn joke was good tbf! 😂

Aston villa is bigger then spurs

@keithryan3528

6 ай бұрын

The fact You had to bring Tottenham Hotspur in to your conversation tells You that just like chelsea and west ham Spurs mean some think to you. As Spurs fan I do not and have never cared about aston villa. aston villa have a history in 1870-1899.and 1980-82. have been up and down more times then a whores drawers, for most of the 1980-90s 2000s 2010-20s played in front of half empty stadiums, had to return tickets for a 3rd FA Cup tie on A Sunday afternoon at 3pm in 2017 at the old WHL. this is the first time in 16years Spurs are not in Europe and it's astons villa 15th time in there history so if you think aston villa are a bigger club then Tottenham Hotspur you think it. But just like chelsea and west ham it can be your Cup Final when you play Spurs, get the suits ready for next Sunday then.

@Cahill68-bc6tv

6 ай бұрын

​@@keithryan3528his points valid, Villa 20 major trophies v Spurs's 15 so based on success Villa are bigger regardless of Spurs's recent premier league positions without a trophy. Surely success of a club is based on how many times youve been the best in the country, then best in europe and then how many majors ie facup and leaguecup added

Why is it when a club gets a new stadium they automatically think they’re a bigger club 🙄

@jamesharle1754

6 ай бұрын

Because bigger stadium, leads to bigger revenue, attract bigger sponsors which means they can have bigger budgets in transfer windows, if you spend big with only a 30k stadium you'll end up selling your best players like Everton and Wolves and soon to be Forest in a couple of years

@tashale76

6 ай бұрын

@@jamesharle1754 that doesn’t make you a bigger club, history defines how big a club is not stadium size absolute shite

@waynephillips3234

6 ай бұрын

​@@tashale76winning trophies in the 1800's when most clubs didn't exist doesn't make you big

Villa have one decent season & think they're world class & then they bring up trophies they won before most of them were even born. West Ham won a tinpot third rate tournament that was created so small clubs like them can win something in Europe. Both Villa & West Ham are small clubs & have been small for a very long time.

@MindSurf248

5 ай бұрын

Clueless comment from a Sky 6 fan that can't see the writing on the wall.

@capybara222

5 ай бұрын

@@MindSurf248 Truth hurts. Keep crying.

Villa gave us our shirts.

Selling out your stadium while having other big clubs in the area is not an argument. London has a population of 9 million to Birmingham's 1 million and Villa are in close proximity to Birmingham, West Brom and Wolves who are not small clubs in their own right. Villa are easily the bigger club by any metric not including stadium capacity and conference league wins... for now.

1. History = Villa > 2. League trophies = Villa > 3. European trophies = Villa > 4. Domestic trophies = Villa > 5. Total size of fanbase (following and engagement) = Villa > 6. Financial (revenue, owners net worth) = Villa > 7. Current squad value = Villa > 8. Stadium size = West Ham 9. Most recent Trophy = West Ham. Conclusion = Grow up. By most meaningful metrics Villa are a bigger club than West Ham and it's really not close.

@mrsensible3560

5 ай бұрын

West Ham have more revenue I think mate but other than that, spot on

What is the way to measure which club is bigger then the other? Even when presented with facts to use, they are put into context that supports the one saying it, or arguing against it. Its a topic brought up when Talk Sport wants to try and create debate & have people call in. How many comments written are not from West Ham or Aston Villa fans? (Myself included) I don't get why this is a argument between, pick whichever 2 clubs you want, but If they really wanted to make it interesting, have a 1-5K Prize to win for the best essay written & having all fans vote on the best ones. Make a Contest out of it, and at least hopefully get intelligent points made and the relevance in today's game, using club's history, success & failures, fanbase in UK & worldwide, etc... and how they apply/evolved into the state of game today. Or somehting similar like that?

not even a discussion, Villa every day

@waynephillips3234

6 ай бұрын

No chance west ham are bigger on every aspect apart from trophies and villa won most of there's in the 1800's when only 10 teams existed

@jonesy1328

5 ай бұрын

apart from trophies...kind of what you play football for! @@waynephillips3234

well yes... Aston Villa are bigger than any non-big-six clubs. On par with Everton and Nottingham Forest in size.

@jkmcgregor7797

6 ай бұрын

Villa are bigger then spurs

@risheeeesh512

6 ай бұрын

@@jkmcgregor7797 I agree, I don’t count Spurs as big six.

@calm123

6 ай бұрын

​@@risheeeesh512whos big 6 than?

@nWoWolfpacTV2016

6 ай бұрын

The biggest clubs outside top 6 are Newcastle, Villa, & Everton - they are 9th, 8th, & 7th when it comes to major trophies. Who is bigger is debatable. IMO Newcastle in bigger slightly because in past 30 years where game has seen most growth, they've had more top 4 PL finishes & been in Champions League 4x plus bigger stadium & performed much better in the 26 years of the Deloitte Football Money League (google it). People need to stop living in past, Nottingham Forest are not a big club anymore - until recently they were in championship for 20 years & missed out on 20 years of premier league money & exposure of being beamed around globe hence why they've never featured in Deliotte Football Money League once while Newcastle have been in 22x, Everton 14x, & Villa 11x. Forest stadium is not big club standard either. They fell massively behind.

@SHEK110

6 ай бұрын

Your bigger than Everton

Who cares how big your club is. It is how it performs that counts.

@paulmersonvillalegend1192

5 ай бұрын

Well in that case Villa win again being as we *HAMMERED* them 4-1 this season & are miles ahead of them in the league. (Pun intended)

I don’t know a single West Ham fan outside of London, but you’ll find Villa fans all over the world.

You cannot put the word big before a club that have never won the league

@mrsensible3560

5 ай бұрын

I think you can in West Ham’s case simply because they’ve had a ways above average success in the domestic cups. Also fanbase and time accumulated in the top flight. Obviously nowhere near bigger than Villa but still a big club I’d say

everyone who isn't a west ham fan knows villa are bigger

William McGregor, the Villa Chairman literally established the football league in this country. He invited the likes of Everton to compete. The football pyramid literally wouldn't exist in it's current form without us. I have an argument with an Everton fan regularly and he gets wound up because we outweigh them in almost every metric. West Ham are like the Kidderminster Harriers of the Midlands.

In my opinion West Ham are bigger than Villa in 2023..

@mrsensible3560

5 ай бұрын

That’s absurd but you’re entitled to your bizarre opinion.

Isn't this the guy that was cottaging, and meeting men in bushes? 😂😂😂

@tashale76

6 ай бұрын

😂😂

West Ham have won a World Cup 😁

West Ham copied Aston Villa's kit, because they wished they could be as MASSIVE as the VILLA!

Why do people care about club size? I don’t get it, what am I missing?

@Cropsy-yy9wg

6 ай бұрын

Validating their lives through associated success. You find the same with nationalists waving a flag. Insecurity mostly.

Ross never got over the fact his brother became famous and he stayed a little sht kicker in the east end somewhere

Waiting list for West Ham , it’s always empty 😂 definitely one of the smallest in London

@waynephillips3234

6 ай бұрын

Only the 55000 on it lol

@Bridgevillian

6 ай бұрын

@@waynephillips3234 always empty 😂 would you say West Ham are bigger then Chelsea ?

@michaelgriffin2716

5 ай бұрын

55000 on a waiting list with 65000 sell out 🤣🤣behave bro you dont actually believe this ?? 6 years ago you couldnt fill 35000 thats why were bigger

@waynephillips3234

5 ай бұрын

@@michaelgriffin2716 if I could post it up on here I would show you the waiting list and West ham always sold out Upton park that's why they had to move to a bigger stadium and have to keep increasing the capacity ! Villa can't even sell out a European game 😂😂

@Bridgevillian

5 ай бұрын

@@michaelgriffin2716 empty seats against wolves on a Sunday 😂 waiting list to leave 💀

West Ham can’t speak to Villa when it comes to trophies 🏆, History or league finishes. West Ham has a bigger stadium only because of the Olympics + it’s a free stadium. The only 2 things they have is they’re a London team and have a better culture with the east end

Villa won European Cup end of debate

The Europa Conference is really scraping the barrel. Is it even considered a major?

@waynephillips3234

5 ай бұрын

Yes it is

@languageoffootball

5 ай бұрын

@@waynephillips3234 yes and no really because even the league cup the biggest clubs have the chance of winning it if they can be bothered. With this Thursday conference it’s like the Autowindscreens trophy or whatever it was called as it’s only a consideration for also-rans or clubs in reduced circumstances. You’ll take it but think it should be classed as a third tier euro major behind the CL and the Europa League.

@waynephillips3234

5 ай бұрын

@@languageoffootball years ago you had 3 major European competitions you had the European cup, the cup winners cup and the uefa cup and now you have the champions league, the Europa League and the conference league

@languageoffootball

5 ай бұрын

@@waynephillips3234 yes I know but it’s completely lob-sided now. The ECWC and UC were recognised prestigious competitions but since the new format CL from circa 1993 the other two have had an existential crisis which has meant a number of re-brands. You’d be better off getting in the CL once and reaching the QF than winning 10 Euro Conference leagues. Also back then only 1 club got in the EC so you had teams of real pedigree in the UC and usually the ECWC. Now you can qualify by coming 7th or winning a fair play league.

@waynephillips3234

5 ай бұрын

@@languageoffootball I would rather win a conference league than lose a final in the champions league ! Football is about winning trophies

Thing is, you have to define what a big club is before you have the argument. If, for instance, you define a big club by how many seats they sell every week and how successful they’ve been in the last 5 years then yeah, you’d probably say that West Ham are bigger. If, however, you define a club by what they’ve won through the entirety of their history then West Ham are not even in the same galaxy as Villa. Always depends on how you view it.

No club can be considered big until they win a European cup/Champions league. West Ham have never even won a English league title

Villa are a big club

Can't stand Villa but they're miles bigger than West Ham. Miles!

Wolves, Blackburn & Leeds are even bigger than West Ham.

@waynephillips3234

5 ай бұрын

You ain't got a clue about football lol

@waynephillips3234

5 ай бұрын

@@capybara222 you obviously don't know more about football than me because wolves have won 9 major honours, Blackburn have won 10 and Leeds have won 5 ! All those clubs haven't won a major trophy in years ! Also there's loads of things that make a club big like revenue, fanbase, attendances, stadium, club value etc not just trophies and West ham are miles bigger than those clubs on all of them

@capybara222

5 ай бұрын

@@waynephillips3234 Actually correction: Wolves have won 17 major honours in their history as it literally states it on their official website. Blackburn have won 11 major honours & Leeds have won 13 major honours & it both states this on their Wikipedia pages. West Ham have only ever won 5 major honours in their history again it states this on their Wikipedia page. Like I said you obviously can't count & are just making excuses. West Ham don't even rank in the top 15 biggest clubs in England. The only people who think West Ham are big are West Ham fans themselves 😑

@waynephillips3234

5 ай бұрын

@@capybara222 no they haven't wolves have won 9 Blackburn have won 10 and Leeds have won 5 The fact you don't even know how many major trophies wolves, Blackburn and Leeds have won and don't think west ham are not in the 15th biggest clubs shows how clueless you are lol

@capybara222

5 ай бұрын

@@waynephillips3234 LOL I pulled those facts from the clubs Wikipedia pages & official websites. Facts don't care about your feelings.

Villa ain't the biggest team in brum I just pissed my self ...

West ham are bigger than Aston villa , and Chelsea

Could somebody tell me where to find the footage/details of the 'World Cup' that so many West Ham fans claim to have won? Cause I've looked everywhere and only managed to find 3 FA Cup wins! If WHU made a DVD about the clubs history, the bonus scenes would be Paolo Di Canio's goal (but from different angles). UTV!!

Y did they get an absolute wally to defend villa in this argument ffs, Scott have a glass on the rocks

Founder members of the league. West Ham filling a stadium that isn’t even a football stadium. West Ham only wear claret and blue because we gave them kit. They literally owe their colours to us.

villa r on another level to westham always have been .ALWAYS

I mean you could use the names of both clubs to compare the pair. It's literally like saying a christmas ham is more valuable than a villa in the Bahamas.

I think the brand of West Ham is actually much bigger.

Why was this even a debate?

I prefer West Ham but it's clearly Villa.

This is such a stupid conversation: Arsenal, Liverpool and Man Utd are and always will be the biggest clubs in England. Tottenham, Chelsea, Villa, Everton, Newcastle and Man City (I would also argue Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday, Forest and Sunderland) are in that 2nd band and are largely interchangeable in terms of fanbase or influence on the English game. Chelsea and Spurs happened to be prominent during the Sky TV era and always get pushed in their narrative, meanwhile Man City monopolised the league with illegitimate money from a morally bankrupt state. That’s the only difference.

West Ham have a big stadium & a decent LOCAL fan base, that's it. To try & compare them to Villa is an insult to Villa. West Ham are on a par with clubs like Palace, Brentford, Fulham, Leicester, Sunderland etc etc

@waynephillips3234

5 ай бұрын

West ham are bigger than villa on every aspect apart from trophies and villa won most of them in the 1800's when only 10 teams existed

@danieljones9436

5 ай бұрын

@@waynephillips3234 😂you're incorrect in every way possible. 1: there were 12 clubs not 10.. 2: Villa only won 8 of their 22 majors in the 1800's... 3: West Ham only have 4 majors in their entire history, that's embarrassing. 4: Villa dwarf West Ham in every single way, except the larger stadium that you got for free after begging like bums for it. 5: Villa even gave West Ham their 1st ever kit because they couldn't afford one, that's why they play in claret & blue. 6: game, set, match.

They never mentioned orient!

Didn't west ham get their stadium donated to them after the olympics

Nothing against West Ham,l like there club Villa are a bigger team

London has 8 million people lol. So getting 60,000 isn't an impressive. London probably has enough room for two or three more clubs with 60,000 stadiums.

West Ham aren’t even in the same conversation as being as big as villa, stupid debate!

Should be done over the league positions percentage each club finished over the past 50 years and trophies included.

@GuitarJammerJohn

5 ай бұрын

That works for me Villa won the league, European Cup and 4 league cups in that time while West Ham have only won the lowest European competition you can win.

@mrsensible3560

5 ай бұрын

@@GuitarJammerJohn5 league cups, 7 FA Cups, Super Cup, Intertoto Cup, 7 league titles.

@GuitarJammerJohn

5 ай бұрын

@@mrsensible3560 yes I know but he said in the last 50 years also even as a Villa fan I don’t think you can really count the Intertoto Cup as a major trophy.

Well said Grovesy, ⚒ 1966 World Cup winners, don’t you forget it ⚒COYI

@DisciplineOfSteel2

6 ай бұрын

Tinpot club.

What was the original name of that second rate team from Small Heath before they dirtied the name Birmingham.

I think that makes Aston Villa bigger than West Ham. Keep blowing your bubbles 🤣