"It's a swamp, so don't try to build a castle there..." "When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp."

@admiralsnackbar2811

2 жыл бұрын

"And she's got YUUUGE.. Tracks of land!"

@ForeverYoungKickboxer

Жыл бұрын

Let's not argue about who killed who or who kicked who in the chest

Ahoi! I only know that the killer trees kept me from going for a walk in the woods with my parents for months.

Although this module is pretty barebones and repetitive I am pretty nostalgic for it. It was one of the first I played and DM'd waayy back in the day, and it was the first coastal/swamp/underwater module we tried.

"It's a swamp, so don't try to build a castle there..." that reminds me that New Orleans is literally sinking every year lol.

I share the opinions expressed below. It's a "hollow" module that could be expanded by a DM with enough time and imagination. Or slotted into another, better module/adventure in a similar environment. And the artwork was... well, almost non-existent or so forgettable that it might as well have been absent.

Not a fan of this adventure at all. I just re-read it before watching your review. The main theme of the module that I noticed is repetition - mount traders in each three cities, the 3 debris tables are all almost the same and the 3 cities listing oddly have things like longbows being located and undisturbed at the same locations despite the tower cities all being occupied. The encounter tables with the preset encounters organized by area type are a good idea. Also a spiral sea-shell tower is pretty exotic though I wouldn't call it a city on its own either. Too bad they never did a picture aside from the silhouette. Another odd thing is that since the "city" of Quagmire is supposed to be a known trade location you can simply take your boat past virtually all of the encounters straight to the city, get past the lizard-men, load up the remaining civilians and leave...there really no reason at all to stumble through the waste, the desert, the hills, the jungle, the swamp etc when you can just bee-line it. Definitely needs to be fleshed out as you said.

@ColTaylorDyath

6 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. Same with X9 The Savage Coast, though I don;t think the writer (Merle M. Rasmussen) can be wholly blamed for this. Apparently, he had a lot of ideas drafted out that were never included in these modules, which is why they are very 'bare bones'.

Everyone said I was daft to build a castle in a swamp....

Just out of curiosity, would you be interested in doing a “Mr. Welch rewrite” for this module, ala the way you have with the WOTI timeline or how you plan on doing the Kingdom of Ierendi? I’m sure that not just myself, but many of your subscribers would love to see your take on what this module really could be. Especially now that there’s the Champions boxed set to use to update it and really flesh it out. I know that this request must sound odd, particularly because I’ve argued with some of your thoughts about how you’ve had events play out, but I really do respect your writing ability and my criticisms aren’t meant to be mean. They’re really more like the differences between Ixion and Nyx. More philosophical, not personal. Either way, you’re work is always appreciated and I’d love your take on what YOUR version of this module would be.

@Mr_Welch

3 жыл бұрын

I've thought long and hard about it. The issue is the module needs a complete overhaul. Quagmire needs to be turned into an actual city with trade routes and other places nearby for them to interact with. The region needs to be populated, as it stands the emptiness of the module is its biggest criticism. Comparing its size to the Isle of Dread you would need about 50 set encounters for the same ratio. I would like to look at Rasmussen's original idea and see what can be salvaged from that, either scale down the size of the region for a more coherent story or scrap the module and make it more into a regional book for the players to explore.

What is the best resource for data on Slagovich? It seems quite an important hub for putting adventures in Quagmire or the savage coast? I also want to use it in expanding the X4/X5/X10 campaign i'm considering re-running (35ish years from when I last played them). Thanks.

@Mr_Welch

Жыл бұрын

Champions of Mystara has the best write up

@fullovstars9447

Жыл бұрын

@@Mr_Welch Poop. Only available from DTRPG on PDf not print on demand and is currently going for £150-£200 on ebay for poor quality copies :-( PDF it will have to be :-(

@fullovstars9447

Жыл бұрын

@@Mr_Welch Do you know if it appears in any of the 3 poor wizards almanacs?

@Mr_Welch

Жыл бұрын

@@fullovstars9447 if it does it's going to be barely a snippet. However it does have a decent right up in one of the Dragon magazine articles and you can probably find most of that information copied verbatim on the vaults

@fullovstars9447

Жыл бұрын

@@Mr_Welch For Info just in case someone else is interested. Part 18 of Voyage of the Princess Ark, in 1991’s Dragon 171,

Hah, talking about cut and paste dungeons and then show Dragon Age 2, nice.

Wow, that sounds really crappy.

@Mr_Welch

5 жыл бұрын

There's an article floating around the internet wear Merle Rasmussen describes his original idea for the module. Where instead of a Sandbox it focused just on the relocation, but TSR wanted a Sandbox module so they took his original idea stripped out his plot and this is what we got.