VGBC's Salty Suite - PC Chris (Fox, Falco) Vs. Liquid Ken (Marth) SSBM - Super Smash Bros. Melee
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Their responses to each other before the set starts is the most professional thing I have ever heard from any Smash Bros. player. They're perfect role models for the community and you can tell they are true veterans.
@Tmathh
9 жыл бұрын
so true
@zerocen6930
9 жыл бұрын
What suprises me more was back in the day the rivalry between west and east coast was pretty fierce if you look back on the documentary everything seemed like a super hard battle for west V east. Also everyone was disrespectful. I expected them to be cool but i think i respect them a lot after this match
@Trance_Kitsune
9 жыл бұрын
I'm appearing on twitter too? Whoa~ Neat! :3
@jarrenbenin7553
9 жыл бұрын
#respectyourelders
@7upjawa
9 жыл бұрын
Hey Kitsune :)
Not. One. Ken. Combo.
@Jimmy-fu3lq
9 жыл бұрын
The crowd would've lost their shit
@stillalive4513
9 жыл бұрын
they can be hard to pull off
@LukeMM95
9 жыл бұрын
SgtSkarmory But, but...he's Ken.
@stillalive4513
9 жыл бұрын
LukeMM95 it's not like you can pull them off 24/7, you don't see ken combos in every melee match ever played, they're extremely situationally based. also, PC was playing really well
@LukeMM95
9 жыл бұрын
SgtSkarmory I'm well aware of how difficult they can be (I'm a Marth player). My comment was tongue-in-cheek.
I love how ken went for the counters for nostalgia's sake. This is honestly the greatest satly suite match in the history of the salty suite
@yuriricarte.9780
8 жыл бұрын
naaah... prof pro vs rolex still the 1st
@stormsonicspeed1
8 жыл бұрын
+Yuri Ricarte. Mah b
@brendanlucas1920
8 жыл бұрын
+Yuri Ricarte. I gotta take a sip
@yuriricarte.9780
8 жыл бұрын
"THIS GUY IS A GOD"
@NinteddyRose
8 жыл бұрын
Yuri Ricarte. Prof vs rolex is definitely not the best. Kage and Biz was more hype than that. Leffen Vs Chillin literally had apex at its height for views, Then there was hbox vs leffen in apex 2014. Yeh, prof and rolex is pretty far down the list.
"pc you do look hella good" lmfao scar
@OfDaSouth
9 жыл бұрын
I had to just look away from my computer for a few seconds to compose myself when he said that. I was laughing so hard I couldn't understand what everyone was saying lmao
@redoxantidox1320
9 жыл бұрын
hahhhahah!!!!!!!!!!That was exactly what i was thinking ***** hahahah that sucks xD
@999a0s
9 жыл бұрын
***** *10 seconds of silence*
@JorgetheLuchadore
8 жыл бұрын
+shiv sixohfor It's because he's wearing a SCARf
@StanTheBlueYoshi69
8 жыл бұрын
+shiv sixohfor I wish Someone said "I'm a good bad infulence on you*
and husband and wife to commentate yes
20:22 The world didn't know what would change time with that statement.
@allorange3777
8 жыл бұрын
"respect your elders"
@giantclaw138
5 жыл бұрын
@@allorange3777 It's gonna be 5-0
@mrm64
5 жыл бұрын
LOL Ken's face said it all too. He knew Chillin was gonna die XD
Marth counters? Side B? Missy Elliot on Superbowl? Gas 2 dollars? WHAT YEAR IS IT?
@Playeressence
9 жыл бұрын
2001 it seems
@ZooPact
9 жыл бұрын
Wait wait! And French Toast Crunch, Surge, and Crispy M&M's. We must of hit a Time Machine...
@BrokenG-String
9 жыл бұрын
I fucking love this comment.
@XCWARRIOR91
9 жыл бұрын
20XX
@EvilX24
9 жыл бұрын
200X
That crowd surf definitely solidified PC's place as my favorite old school player
after all of these years, PC Chris still has no idea how to sweetspot
@SillyKiwiFtaghn
3 жыл бұрын
that's why Ken does so much charged B on edgeguard, he knows his old foe
The year is 200X
@deltatin2758
5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@martin-pe9kx
4 жыл бұрын
20XX*
@mr._otis9840
4 жыл бұрын
@@martin-pe9kx uhhhhhh
@Jabeke49
4 жыл бұрын
Mr._Otis don’t tell him
@mr._otis9840
4 жыл бұрын
@@Jabeke49 okie
PC LOOKS THE EXACT SAME, HE NEVER AGES
the interesting thing about these retired veterans is they do weirder shit than mang0 and it works. just gives you an idea of how good these people have gotten at reading their opponent
This is so 2006
Have PcChris vs Milktea as a salty sweet
@PaulGLarsson
8 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@Pekko_
8 жыл бұрын
lol
@hc661
8 жыл бұрын
JESUS CHRIST LMFAO
@125conman
7 жыл бұрын
haha. did they have a rough break up or something?
@ssbmslurppp1781
7 жыл бұрын
Connor Knipes no
20:22 LMAO....Ken knew how it was gonna go down, you can see that grin he has....poor Chillin...
PC's Combo starting at 11:19 was one of the coolest things I have seen.
@AtomicMonkeybutt
7 жыл бұрын
You dont see stuff like that anymore, that's for sure.
@powerslam60
7 жыл бұрын
out of curiosity why don't we see these sort of combos anymore?
@Flarf18
7 жыл бұрын
people are better at DIing and teching
@MrFrankyGification
7 жыл бұрын
Yea most top level players would DI away from a lot of that stuff or catch the tech when they hit the ground.
@MyAce8
7 жыл бұрын
another thing is he opts jab resets where most people shine, and people don't like to combo into down smash. That being said mango sometimes does both of those things
Is Ken taking tips from Zero...? Not in Gameplay but rather in fashion *the scarf*
When PC Chris said "I'm gonna speak with my fingers", I thought he was gonna flip him off lmao.
The crowd erupting when PC chooses Falco..gives me chills every time. Great to see a legend like him back in the game.
6:25 The Falco chants. I watched these guys in their prime and it just made me goosebump up. Jesus what a beautiful set.
This is the epitome of the Salty Suite. The SS matches that I wanted to watch were disappointing because of how one sided they were. With Axe having a solid victory over Silent Wolf (3-1), Westballz destroying Colbol (3-0), Kage not even showing up because of his illness (get well soon) and then Bizzaro just destroying his replacement, and Leffen absolutely demolishing Chillin... this truly kept me at the edge of my seat! Old school Melee is still exciting. 20XX is cool and stuff with all this new tech that we're figuring out like pivot ledge grabbing or other shenanigans (which are mad hype too), but this was a really exciting match.
@sebastiananzures7398
9 жыл бұрын
This was set was more like the Sweet Suite
@ceppy3431
8 жыл бұрын
+XAlphaZEROX well at the very least bizzaro got his ass whooped by kage after that trash talk
@Matthew.Morcos
3 жыл бұрын
You can't describe Leffen vs Chillin as disappointing. Leffen puts on a show the entire time. It's one of my favourite sets all time.
this is the smash equivalent to fan service
2:00 If they went to Rainbow Cruise or Mute City this would've made an already great match even better. That would've been sick.
@LukeMM95
9 жыл бұрын
Bowserslave It would have been funny if they went to Poke Floats.
9:48 Top 10 Cutest Moments in Melee EDIT: this clip makes me laugh every time
This is the most heartwarming Smash match I've seen in a long time. I love both of these guys for what they represent to the community and how they played this out years after the rivalry dissolved. 11/10
I love how classic this really is
@douggieharrison6913
Жыл бұрын
crazy how this was nostalgic SEVEN years ago lmao
We just went back 9 years (10 now). This is fucking great.
ahhhh now this is old school. i love how you can see pc chris improving as he plays
That was too good really brings back old memories. Those 2 arguably started it all
@Fro00ot0
9 жыл бұрын
Azen tho?
@hotdogger2163
9 жыл бұрын
Joe Bellino No one knows what azen does anymore. What would isai do
@crono3833
9 жыл бұрын
Leffens Waifu Chudat
"I'm gonna talk with my fingers." OOOOOOH MYYYYYYYY
Inb4 PC Chris wins Evo2016
@MikiziB
8 жыл бұрын
Nah, Hbox did.
@MikiziB
8 жыл бұрын
Hawk Neucidant don't bother, just ignore him.
@neucetnt8410
8 жыл бұрын
+MikiziB lol k
@skullo5557
7 жыл бұрын
Hanea Flijty hahah Hbox won!
This was my favorite match from the Suite. Phenomenal old school play and genuine respect.
Most hype set at apex imo
Always a pleasure to see the king of smash play, shame he doesn't as much anymore.
That guy was on survivor!
@chickennuggies5098
8 жыл бұрын
You do know who Ken is, right?
@Obesepelican
8 жыл бұрын
+Ben Cornell yes
@chickennuggies5098
8 жыл бұрын
Callum Hening ok, just sounded like you had no idea who the king of smash was
@AtomicMonkeybutt
7 жыл бұрын
Ken was in a tv show called survivor once too
Ive watched this fight like 3 times now, so good! I hope this is the return of PC.
9:39 - PC with old school combo! That smile at the end. Even he knew how much he was styling.
Watching this in 2020 makes me emotional
@StevieD1x
4 жыл бұрын
Same
My favorite match of the whole APEX 2015. Loved seeing the old school styles.
Love watching these old two players play, yes its not top level play, but you can still tell they got moves and knowledge. Along with the commentators who were also old school players, it all comes together for what is still to this day a pretty entertaining match
PC wins with his falco rather than his fox? even though he's gearing towards fox nowadays? LOL thats how u know, thats how u know
Seeing this live was amazing.
Sephiroth Ken... I haven’t heard that in a long time.
Great set, the two obviously respect each other as players so much.
2 of the greatest. And 2 of the most humble. Great players but even better people
I love that old gods like pc and ken can still put on such a great show
honestly this is a match to rival leffen vs chillin like after watching the documentary i have so much respect for these guys for just making the game what it is
"I'm going to talk with my fingers instead of my mouth", "and that's what the smash community is all about". I'm sorry Scar, I wish this were true, I really do, the Smash community and American Esports would be so much better off, but I'm calling BS.
@KnishG
9 жыл бұрын
Yeah us esports are really trashy right now along with regular sports. People think it's what the audience likes but in reality it's really toxic and annoying. I hope there are some revisions to 'trash talking' in the esports community because they're better then that.
@Garethaxz
9 жыл бұрын
Knish G. Makes you wonder what the model for it all was, if you look at the countries that spearheaded the development of Esports that now boast successful and respected professional gamers you see a very different picture from what we have in the states and, to a lesser extent, in Europe. Different cultures I guess...
@KnishG
9 жыл бұрын
Garethaxz that and just the fact that there's no risk to talk shit in esports. It's not like the guy next to you is going to resort to violence. A good thing about smash is that the extent of trash talking is 'I'll be shinin' till he's cryin''
Man, after rewatching a lot of these Salty Suite's and Top 8 matches, I have to say I think Apex 2015 was the best Melee tournament of all time. The Apex of Melee if you will (but you won't).
That crowd surf was awesome
Damn, throwback to back in the day
That 'LOL M2K' sign. Thank you guy. I love this crowd.
holy shit, like them old smash days...holy poop
Man, husband and wife have such soothing commentary, so clean
This makes me so happy. Ken vs PC and Wife is commentating
@TooThiKK
9 жыл бұрын
Husband and Wife!
I love how these two Respected each other with those good words in the beginning. :)
Still good 5 years later
But damn I’m just seeing this after watching a mang0 vs zain set And wow the game has come soooo far wth
LOVE WIFE's commentary!
Im i the only one cheering for ken
@treehann
9 жыл бұрын
I was!
@BigDeepz
8 жыл бұрын
I wasn't a fan of ken before, but all those b moves were hype! I already knew PC would win, so i was kinda hoping Ken would magically pull it off haha
@kabindrapradhan840
8 жыл бұрын
+Robert Depo b moves? U mean specials
@BigDeepz
8 жыл бұрын
you say side special and up special instead of side b and up b? weird. Thats just how I heard it and learned it lol
@kabindrapradhan840
8 жыл бұрын
+Robert Depo well first of all we call up b recovery and u dont say those b s it dosent sound right
I HAD A DREAM ABOUT THIS A WEEK AGO. THIS IS INSANE!
It's nuts watching this right after watching zain vs leffen. The way they play couldn't be more different
The Ultimate Super Smash Bros Melee old school face off, this in my mind is even better than Ken vs Azen, PC vs Ken is the culmination of the old era of smash next to Ken vs Azen and PC vs KDJ
Thank you chillin, for allowing pc chris to attend to tourneys.
pc chris immediatley getting a hug from the one person in the venue that has exactly the same hat
Seeing PC Chris crowd surf made my night haha
In my opinion, most hype salty suite set because nothing wrong with old school (love it) and these are true professionals that you can look up to
9:04 that double jump into waveland backwards to foward smash
Wow... melee changed so mutch in so little time!
"I'm gonna talk with my fingers, not my mouth."
Salty Suite... More like the Salty Sweet. These two are just so mild-mannered, I love it.
A ken combo would have been so hype. Sounded like the crowd wanted it too!
We thought the mic drop was a badass way to end something...PC Chris just crowdsurfed in his exit. Now THATS a badass.
This was my favorite match to watch.
18:50 From Ken's expression he already knew he lost
You know what would've been even.more nostalgic? Ken vs azen
Old Melee... This is so different to what it looks like nowadays :)
why does this set look so different from what im used to today its weird. They think about there opponents movements more then trying to be quick around the map.
@Panning72
9 жыл бұрын
Ya I enjoy it too cause it's a little easier for me to see their brains moving compared to top players today.
@HieronymousLex
4 жыл бұрын
Because the game has gotten more optimized, simply put, players are playing on a higher level now because the meta has been pushed there
@HieronymousLex
4 жыл бұрын
And if you’re insinuating that nowadays players just fly around the map to look flashy instead of actually fighting, you have no idea what you’re talking about or what you’re seeing
@queuedjar4578
3 жыл бұрын
Players nowadays do think about their opponents movements, just with ledge dashing, wave dashing, wave landing, moonwalking, l cancelling, and all sorts of other crazy tech mixed in that players didn't really know about or think about using as much back then.
@lewissteward65
3 жыл бұрын
@@queuedjar4578 they did just didn’t use them
If Ken can still compete today, so can PC. PC is a beast.
I love how they switched commentators during the Salty Suite, Prog and D1 is great but, its nice to see Wife and Husband Time to time
This set was about as legendary a the original
4:50 lmao husband with the salty "u-uhh yeah...always sweet"
So, I almost started crying when Ken and PC were doing their talking with Scar. Holy cow. :')
I can't believe ken lost, going into the set I thought he was the definite favorite to take the set, props PC for clutching it out and getting the win and props to both of them for a really tight exciting match
Ken may not be the terror he once was, but as a Marth main, I still look up to the guy. I wish my Marth was just a fraction like Ken's.
@chrispham6599
6 жыл бұрын
well, he's the guy who invented and patented the F-air to D-air kill combo that the majority if not, ALL Marth players are using. Edit: PAL only
ive watched this video 10 times and its great
Lol i love Pc's humbleness when he tried not smiling
Still sick in 2020
I implore anyone even if you watched this set before to go watch the Smash Bros Documentary if you aren't familiar with old school smash and at least watch the parts on PC Chris and Ken. After watching that I've come to appreciate this match even more, and could pick up why Wife and Husband sounded so shaky about Ken being "sweet' at 4:52-5:02 It also made me understand why Ken threw out so many counters during Game 2.
It's funny after he won our $1 entry fee tournament at the Clarion hotel, he falls on top of us when he went crowd surfing. Lol Still love that guy.
"I'm gonna talk with my fingers rather than my mouth" lol his face made it seem like he knew it sounded dirty
I really enjoy how respectful Wife was to Ken and how unbiased he was, that is really professional to me. Even how respectful Ken and PC Chris were to each other was very uplifting. The true meaning of good sportsmanship right there. If anyone knows what Wife really thinks of Ken from his book, you'd be amazed by the story...
I loved this set it really made me smile. I would of loved to been on the scene back in 04 - 06 seeing Ken, Azen, Isai, Wife, Cap Jack, Husband, HugS all of them in their prime. I personally think that was a great time for melee.
@cjcskittlez
9 жыл бұрын
Has there seriously been Melee for a decade?
@arturopacheco8334
9 жыл бұрын
yup and hopefully for another decade.
@JesseDumontt
9 жыл бұрын
CJ Skittlez That's how you know when a game is good. I love Melee.
best set of the salty suite. period.
I'm still very new to fox tech, at 4:17, was that a waveshine? (PC's fox v ken marth)
ken screwed up shield dropping so much and it cost him a stock everytime
Ken went home to his 20xx netplay PC Chris crowd surfed away and the legends still alive on
Husband and Wife should always commentate, so much better than D1 IMO
@mouachanman
8 жыл бұрын
Not even
@justinsuckow939
8 жыл бұрын
+mouachanman D1 is kind of annoying and over hyped, I appreciate what he's done to help the smash community but wife over D1 anyday. But all opinions
@spankinthehams
8 жыл бұрын
D1 is an overhyped little shit who's fucking snnoying
@fmafan123456789
7 жыл бұрын
i rly like d1 commentary
@andrewnunn681
6 жыл бұрын
Sorry D1 is the greatest commentator ever
Damn that match up brought back memories, that color of Falcon will always remind me of PC Chris.
@sothisistheend
9 жыл бұрын
Just like how I always call Roy sethlon XD
Damn this first game... i love how the game goes "Marth marth marth" and then "goooo Fox"