17:15 “Really not sure what Ken was thinking. FD is traditionally a very strong Falco stage.” Oh how times have changed.

@maplesalt1482

2 ай бұрын

But from the other commentator: "He can still win this if he gets a good chain grab in"

Great commentators. *Marth counterpicks FD "IDK why he would go here. Not a good Marth stage"

@pistonsfan696

2 жыл бұрын

At the time they dont kwow how to use aventage in FD at the time the stage considered to be the best for marth was actually yoshi story the Ken stage like they said sometimes

@darklord2626

Жыл бұрын

@@pistonsfan696 Exactly. Chain grab potential hadn't been realized yet. The meta in this game is still evolving 20 years later, it makes that so much had not been discovered when this was made.

@pandapandasenketsu3473

23 күн бұрын

@@darklord2626 Even with chain grabs the general consensus is that Fox and Falco win neutral on FD and still have really strong punishes

Even though the game was much closer you can really see how smart in neutral both players were.

4:03 the patience pc chris has here was pretty amazing

One of my favorite matches of all time.

its so crazy to really think like if you took some random slippi kid and put him in this tournament and probably the next 3 years worth of tournaments, he'd be unstoppable. Ledgedash, shield dropping, 2022 combo tree against/with marth and falco just murders everything in this video haha. have the commentators eat their words questioning why marth took falco to fd with a 4 stock

@wonnie

Жыл бұрын

It's kinda wild thinking about how far Melee has gone since this moment, but I don't think a Random Slippi Kid would be super dominant in this era still. They probably would give Ken/PC Chris/Azen a good run for their money. But keep in mind that even 7 years after this moment, Ken was considered a Top 100 player even in more modern eras. Though that still doesn't diminish the fact that modern Melee is scary af.

@cmp6008

Жыл бұрын

Keep in mind too that this is pre-ucf, so a Slippi kid might get stuck in their movement, feel a little slow and unresponsive, definitely miss a ledgedash, get in their head about it, and players like Ken would capitalize. It would be closer than you think. Especially on the old stages.

@cottonmather8146

11 ай бұрын

@@cmp6008 It definitely wouldn't be close lol

@cottonmather8146

11 ай бұрын

@@wonnie You're underestimating the development and progression of Melee in 16-17 years. A random slippi kid who is at least masters, hell even diamond would be able to easily dispatch Ken, PC Chris, KoreanDJ just off of today's basic flow chart. I'd probably favorite a platinum player too assuming they aren't completely brain dead. The "modern" eras you speak of 2015-2016/2017ish were completely unrecognizable by 2018/2019 in terms of gameplay. And the jump from 2019 to 2023 in skill is bigger than that. The only player around this era who could probably take sets is 2007 Mew2King against a spacie who lets himself get thrown off the edge 4 times a game

@Retr0Her0

9 ай бұрын

@@cottonmather8146 Dude playing online and in-person is another level of competitive playing. Their chance go up if they had prior experience at locals or some major experience but they're a lot of outside factors that could mess a persons game up. Not saying that they can't win but saying they would win base on mechanics and technical skill doesn't always mean a for sure win, that's just the problem with comparing eras. But I do 100% agree that MLG 2006 melee is nothing compared to Modern Day Melee!

Epic final.

2006???? This is SO OLD😮😮

I was born too late in life

Final game of this long ass set being on mute city is hilarious

algorithm

best of….. 11????

Flash 🏃🏃‍♂️💨

this looks like a regular slippi game nowadays XD

@blazinbutter6677

Жыл бұрын

with combo strings yes. in neutral game no. the average slippi player is mindless in neutral while pc chris is really good at putting on the pressure and choosing his spots for instance.

@sporefergieboy10

Жыл бұрын

@@blazinbutter6677 *rolls to edge with intangible opponent nearby*

@itsbmeGaming

5 ай бұрын

@@sporefergieboy10rage quits when their Falco gets gimped first stock because they have no mental fortitude for adversity

25:35.

Set 2 was a wash :/