I've been fiddling with making a TTRPG, and I just have to say the way you do magic in Vagabond is absolutely inspiring

@Indestructoboy

7 ай бұрын

That’s such a kind compliment! Thank you!!!

I'm so excited to start playing Vagabond! Here's to 2024 being the year of VAGABOND!!!

@TheHypeGoblin

7 ай бұрын

Also shout out for group combat. I think it leads to better teamwork from the players and really makes them think about their role in the GROUP rather than how they can deal the most damage solo.

@davewilson13

6 ай бұрын

Great choice to do math on character sheet, simplify play

big congrats on this! and THIS is the biggest take away, there is ALWAYS room for a new TTRPG to be out there, you don't have to be a 1.5billion dollar company to make it happen! again, big congrats!

The quick action sounds like a smoothing over of 3.x's system of the swift action and the interrupt, since you could only take one or the other in a round.

At a quick glance i thought your shirt said "Beer Lord."

I can just see it now a frat collage setting and that one player enters a frat party and the rest of the group looks at that one guy that can just tell and they go VIBE CHECK.

I read your shirt as beer lord

Your design's have always meshed with me and I've been waiting for this for a long time, this and Matt Colville's Talent are my most anticipated releases in a long time for ttrgps. Can't wait to see it in action.

Congrats! Can’t wait for people to get their hands on it

Can’t wait to lay my hand on this

I don't have the bandwidth to learn and teach a ton of new ttrpg's to my group. I was very worried i would have to make a choice between vagabond and the dungeon coach's DC20 system. However after looking at both systems i see characters i can't build in one, capable in the other and this makes me very confident they have their own system and style that i can see myself diving into and my players loving. Also while they aren't rules light, they feel very intuitive and can feel rules light at the same time, while still holding that crunch that i love in a ttrpg. Very excited to see the final product. It's really cool seeing someone who knows what they are doing, poor their passion into something.

All hail the almighty Bagelbond!!

Looks super exciting!

I have to try to switch my players over to this

Huzzah and hurrah! I can't wait to play this. 😀 Congratulations!

Just to clarify… buying the early access now gets you the current alpha PDF and then the final PDF once it’s released, yes? This is looking great btw. I love the simplified game play and the way magic can be creatively used along with having a ton of classes at release. Will there be subclasses?

@Indestructoboy

7 ай бұрын

1. Yes, early access purchasers get the final PDF. I'm selling the game in early access to help fund additional artwork. 2. Thank you! 3. There are subclasses for all of the classes.

HOLY COW! I really love the way Vagabond has been designed so far. I really got hooked seeing all the different races, classes and how world generation works. I hope when you do videos discussing the monk and ranger class, thematically monks are a bit more open to interpretation in their martial arts and carry the similar subclass options to 5e's monk subclasses. And rangers as a class are more versatile like the hunter subclass. I don't pay a lot of attention to your vagabond videos but I hope there will be a witch class I really love your mana system. I've always had a bias against spell casters so seeing a mana system feels like something that I need to enjoy spell casters I'M SO EXCITED FOR VAGABOND!!

Just finished my first game of Vagabond this last week! Still figuring out all the nuances of the system but my group loves it so far.

This is insane taron. You’ve managed to design a system that takes the wants & needs of literally everybody in my extended playgroup and dials it up to 11. I can’t WAIT to get my hands on this

Super cool system, and glad to see Into the Odd getting so much love! Can't wait to play this in the future and see a full table come together for it!

Out of all things I expected to see here, mention of Chris Ramsay was NOT one of them! xD

@Indestructoboy

6 ай бұрын

Dude taught me cardistry, now I have a favorite fidget. Lol

It's release time!! Finally!!

Looks great can't wait ro try it out

Vagabond looks like a really fun game! good luck!

an amazing idea brought to life by a great creator!! I will be ordering Vagabond!! Great Job!!

A : The reason for old games being "roll under" is because players had a hard time wrapping their head around a LOW skill value being better. Players wanted "higher number = better". B : People then had a hard time wrapping their mind around rolling low being a good thing. They felt awkward that rolling a 1 was better than rolling 20. D&D 3rd edition forward wanted to solve that by having bonuses so that high attributes/skills were good while rolling high was also good. C : Now you want to solve the problem with the adversarial mindset that is created by the DM setting the "target value" and the player not knowing what to roll by looking at the character sheet. So now we are back to lower attributes/skills being better. D : See A Round and Round we go 😅

This sounds amazing!

The website doesn't say, so once this is ready for release, are there plans of making a physical book?

@Indestructoboy

7 ай бұрын

Yup! The Physical Book Kickstarter planned for 2024.

@dashboots376

7 ай бұрын

@@Indestructoboy Cool, I'll probably buy the digital version first but I'm always excited for a new book in my book shelf.

Interesting take on a system. I especially like your magic system. I also always felt D&D felt narratively awkward with it's magic system. In fact sometimes I would narrate a magical display and my players were almost always like "that spell doesn't exist." or something simar. I definitely dig what you've done here.

>it shouldn't be a resource management game, it should be an action game >you get an amount of mana per long rest 😈

@kylemanley6694

7 ай бұрын

He did experiment with removing mana and upping the difficulty instead, but playtesting proved mana was preferable.

@Indestructoboy

7 ай бұрын

Lol I mean, magic nerds find math very high action.

This sounds pretty dope. I’m gonna have to check it out as soon as I can.

@Demonskunk

7 ай бұрын

You had me at JRPG, and “If you want to play as a monster”

Very cool, man!! Vagabond looks great. ⚔😃

The removal of social checks reminds me of the Japanese TTRPGs I have seen. A lot seem to avoid gamifying social stuff and focus on Roleplay.

I've seen "fully modular" spell systems proposed in TTRPGs before, and my concern is always that interesting niche effects can be lost, especially ones hard to balance as a modular component. In addition, it can be overwhelming for new players. Hopefully there's good solutions to both of these issues (the latter can just have recommended castings for new players at lower levels).

The "roll-over" system is a stroke of genius. It's one of those things you hear and wonder why no one has concepted it before (at least to my knowledge of many games no one has). One of my greatest pain points as a GM has always been setting DCs. I hate it and it never feels like I get it right. Roll-under systems always felt like the best solution because it removes that issue, but the idea of wanting to roll low never really feels great. Roll-over for the win!

@josephpurdy8390

7 ай бұрын

Call of Cthulu has a similar system. Your skill proficiency raises when your character becomes more knowledgeable. You want to roll low to become successful on skill checks. If you roll lower, than opponent on opposing skill checks. Normal checks are equal to or less than your skill. Hard checks are half your skill. Extreme checks are 1/5th your skill.

@tyleremery7088

7 ай бұрын

​@@josephpurdy8390sure, but the reason Vagabond is different is because it flips "roll under" mechanics on their head so that it works essentially the same but you still get the "bigger number = better" mouthfeel at the same time.

I. Love. This.

i like the idea of metamagics being a more UNIVERSAL feauture of the game, means you can make a LOT less spells, no need for fire ball and fire bolt or fire storm. like. why? this is the same spell at different sizzes XD. im also a HUGE fan of the glypths being introduced into this! ive noticed that while i LOVE the idea of the truly "prepared caster" where you Precast things, the only way to do this effictly is to cheese it or suffer for it. it works so rarely outside of white room analysis that if i can get my caster into a situation where i KNOW a bad guy will be here in a few days or something, i want to be able to spend that time to make the incoming fight easier, but due to how rare this is, its unlikely you thought to have a pre loadable glyph spell available, in most systems it costs money you may not have, or requires all sorts of nonsense. making it a assumed, constant feauture of the system means i can spend that leftover mana on a fireball glyth at the entrance of the cave as a BASELINE rather than something i need to be FIGHTING either the GM or the system for.

Hoping this works out for you. Was planning to pick up your secondary classes for DnD once I hit proper DMing, so you'll get my support that way! Out of curiosity, what's the current state of the Vanguard for 5e? Is it being left as-is on your webstore? I know it hasn't joined the rest on the DM Guild, so I wasn't sure if it was still technically 'in testing' or not like the Dancer, Alchemist and Merchant.

@Indestructoboy

7 ай бұрын

The Vanguard has been complete for a year. It’s not going on the Guild because it doesn’t need to.

Hey dude, you are awesome. I really appreciate what you are doing. How can I get a copy of Vagabond?

I was playing a game with a creative playstyle with magic similar to yours. The more you spend the greater the effect or damage. How do you manage something like... an empowered firebolt vs casting a fire ball (which does aoe dmg)? I feel like aoe always becomes the best option unless the damage is dispersed in some way where it can do more overall damage than single target given the right circumstances but most times single target is better. Does this make sense? Basically I am asking about rules on aoe vs single target given that aoe would obviously be the most efficient tactic available if dmg scales by 1d6 with each mana point.

@tyleremery7088

7 ай бұрын

Changing the delivery to a sphere or whatever else costs mana, and increasing damage also costs mana. Every caster has a maximum amount of mana they can spend on a given cast, so if you're changing both delivery and damage you can only do so much at a time and you'll burn through mana super quickly. The mana system is flexible enough that you can cast lots of little spells or totally gas yourself out on one or two big spells (especially if you're a sorcerer).

@alchemicalcreations

7 ай бұрын

@@tyleremery7088 Thanks for the clarification!

Looks promising! My heads still trying to understand the resolution system. Could be just not being that awake yet. xD So 20 - (stats). Roll that number or higher, correct?

@Indestructoboy

Ай бұрын

That's correct!

Love how many classes there are but im a bit worried by the absence of warlock. Its my favourite caster class flavour wise, so I really hope you do plan on including a pact magic caster.

@Indestructoboy

6 ай бұрын

The problem here is, I believe more people want the mechanical expression of 5e's Warlock more than the representation of the character archetype.

@Arthonizer101

6 ай бұрын

@@Indestructoboy i dont know, man. 70% of warlock appeal is the patron/pact maker dynamic. Its a gold mine of drama for dm's. Mechanically dnd warlock is a bit meh, being only a half caster with automatically leveling spells. Haven't really dug into your system that much yet, but i def could see vagabonds warlock being represented for example by starting every enconter with zero mana and rolling a dice to see with what they can work with that turn, that way they could cast more often than other classes but only get to do really powerfull spells if they get lucky. A loose idea, but its to illustrate that warlock could work in this sytem if we'd only take the archetype and don't apply dnd mechanics to it.

Compared to Ironsworn how complex will this system be?

@Indestructoboy

5 ай бұрын

Less so. At least from my perspective.

I think it's funny that your system where skills are a DC is just THAC0 all over again. It's like you know deep down that a roll-under system would be better suited for your needs, but you're afraid D&D players aren't smart enough to get it.

@Indestructoboy

7 ай бұрын

It's the philosophy of THAC0 with the intuitive feel of roll high. It really doesn't need to come with all that pretention.