Vader Wanted to do WHAT?!
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Mark discusses the first time Vader wanted to run creative by him for their match.
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"Vader snatched me and he wasn't even mad at me" - Jim Cornette
I was at In Your House Canadian Stampede when Taker was champ and wrestled Vader. He picked up Vader for a Tombstone and it’s still one of the most impressive displays of strength I’ve ever seen.
@GuiOmania
5 ай бұрын
I rewatch it 2 weeks ago this match and the main event was insane !!!
@livewire4519
5 ай бұрын
Back when wrestling was great.
@codyeble6764
5 ай бұрын
Wasn't struggling or anything.. insanely impressive
@devansafer4251
5 ай бұрын
If taker could pull that, it would have been an all time most epic moment!! Vader being tombstoned was epic enough but MAN
@Bownzinho
5 ай бұрын
Both him and Kane had no issue being able to pick him up for it. It was crazy
"It's quiet now" is brilliant comic timing 🤣
Aw coem on Taker. You should have taken it as a great compliment. VADER literally thought you were that insanely strong to pull it off and respected you so much that he wanted to insanely put you over that much. Lol.
@HawaiiFoodAndFun
5 ай бұрын
This. Wonder if Kane could've done it. He was insanely strong
@loganmyall660
5 ай бұрын
Was gonna say it but you already have double digit likes. Take my comment to bump.
@UFCWWE69
5 ай бұрын
It’s literallly impossible lmao Shawn Michaels and Vader are very different body types 😂
@metallicafan99999
5 ай бұрын
I don't think Mark Henry or Lesnar could have caught Vader in that type of scenario. Like Taker said, he'd do way more damage to himself trying to protect him. Also like the interviewer said, Vader falls on his head. Idk how Vader thought that was even possible unless he was asking all that as a rib.
@Tonetare
5 ай бұрын
He wanted to embarrass The Undertaker character with that idea and Mark knew it. Good going Mark not to entertain foolery.
In a weird way that finish idea was a compliment towards Taker because Vader thought Taker was fully capable to catch him in the tombstone mid air.
@rd6931
2 ай бұрын
I guess Vader didn't realize how heavy he really was lol.
I don't think a human has ever walked the Earth that could catch a moonsaulting Vader.
@normanred9212
25 күн бұрын
Maybe Big Show
@christiang9444
23 күн бұрын
mark henry
@orgonkothewildlyuntamed6301
18 күн бұрын
why would you? lol
@danielpartida4563
9 күн бұрын
Possibly Andre in his prime. Can't think of anyone else, though.
Vader in WWF was such a missed opportunity. I get it if Shawn didn't want to work with him but he would have made a great heel champion to drop it later to a babyface. Problem was Shawn had Vince's ear and injuries were starting to creep up. But WWF pushing Vader full force...amazing what could have been.
@MrRyan-wu4jx
5 ай бұрын
I think the title change from HBK to Sid back to HBK between Sur Ser 96 and Royal Rumble 1997 was originally meant for Vader, the December 96 PPV was even named after Vader. But Shawn buried him to management and they went with Sid instead.
@adamlane6453
5 ай бұрын
It was also not in his favor that Vader was already an international pro wrestling star, and the gimmick was not owned nor created by Vince.
@akash_rupa
5 ай бұрын
Shawn shouldn't have been wrestling heavyweights anyway. It was never believable. I doubt he ever weighed more than ~180
@marcpower4167
5 ай бұрын
I think the final nail for Vader in WWF was that incident in when he attacked that talk show host for asking if wrestling was fake. Leon didn't take it too kindly and ended up in a little legal trouble for that. Vince probably didn't like the bad press that brought in for the company.
@arthurmorgan7086
5 ай бұрын
@@marcpower4167that wasn’t Vader
rip big leon. I'd have given up just about anything to hear vader and taker sit down together and tell stories like this
I love takers stories. He has a way of expressing himself, which is nearly hypnotic. 😎🤘
@arostwocents
5 ай бұрын
Try it at 2x and it's way more exciting and engaging - he talks like it's a promo normally
The way John tells the story is funny too. He suggested calling if on the fly.
The video clip of yourself and Vader on a talk show, when he snaps on the host is pure GOLD !! 😂👌
@watchreport
5 ай бұрын
If you haven’t heard it, I believe it’s JR who talks about how Leon (Vader) got detained. Maybe it was Bruce Pritchard, can’t remember which, but it is on KZread if you look it up.
none of this is an insult or sarcasm BUT hearing "Mark" speaking in a normal tone here really has me appreciating how well he protected his character and the mystique of the "Undertaker". if i was only hearing this and not watching it, id never guess this was the man who terrified me when he first arrived in in the WWF. just kudos all around. theres not enough nice things i can praise that commitment with (and i know no one gives a damn about my input, but still)
I don't think there's anyone in history who could've caught Vader in mid air when he's moonsaulting off the top turnbuckle and putting him into a tombstone. The risk of injury is too great. Too much mass and velocity coming down at such speed and elevation.
@frankielasvegas5756
5 ай бұрын
Outside of maybe Mark Henry.
@jollyjames30
5 ай бұрын
@@frankielasvegas5756 or The Big Show/Giant from 97-2000 when he had muscles before he put on a lot of weight.
@mickeymaus1
5 ай бұрын
@@frankielasvegas5756but he is not so tall… the strength isn’t the only problem here, catching flying 180kg during a top rope moonsault sounds in general something between insane and stupid 😂
@lukecullins9934
2 ай бұрын
Yupp Even a 500lbs big show can't do that . Vader was 400lbs too , ain't nobody built to catch a moon saulting 400lbs man in mid air and then live to tell the story 😂@@mickeymaus1
Wow Undertaker is such a a great storyteller and a funny comedian,he has such a great timing for his jokes
Vader actually took part in the first wrestling match I ever watched. It was him vs Sting in a leather strap match and Vader absolutely terrified me lol. I was just a little kid but it had me believing it all hook line and sinker. From that day Sting was my favorite growing up. Of course later on I discovered Taker and was like ok by far Vader and Taker are the 2 scariest wrestlers ever. RIP Mr White and thanks for the memories.
@bretth4988
5 ай бұрын
I use to believe wrestling was like underground fighting and the people didn't even have real names.
@coreyh6140
5 ай бұрын
Thought I was the only one who found Vader to be terrifying at that time
@rkstevenson5448
5 ай бұрын
Coincidentally, Sting was the one guy who regularly visited Vader in the hospital as he was dying. Steve Borden is just a good dude.
@JSP-np7tx
5 ай бұрын
Thought big boss man was your favorite wrestler
@scottthomas4779
5 ай бұрын
@@JSP-np7tx lol I see what you did there
The way undertaker described Leon was the perfect Segway into the rest of the story and why it’s so damn funny
Imagine how sweet that spot would've been though
@Rihardololz
5 ай бұрын
Undertaker would retire early.
ITS VADER TIME!
JBL saying Undertaker loved it freaking broke me LOL!!! That story was so good. 😆🤣
That's completely insane. Literally no one in the world could do that without risking serious injury.
If taker and vader had pulled of that moonsault into a tombstone that would have been a incredible ending in that era of wrestling
I love the fact that you can tell Mark (Taker) knows how intimidating he looks and uses it to screw with people. I wouldn't want to piss him off but it'd be awesome to sit and have a beer with the man.
Vader is the second greatest super heavyweight of all time, after Bam Bam Bigelow.
@TheSophisticatedSavage
5 ай бұрын
Yoko is. He was 600 lbs and never hurt anyone. That's the mark of a great big man.
@pheodec
5 ай бұрын
@@TheSophisticatedSavageWhat about that one jobber?
@shane-irish
5 ай бұрын
Andre
@kaiserrino8774
5 ай бұрын
Bam Bam was good but Vader was much better in ring worker with great psychology. Bam is not even close to Vaders greatness. Bam Bam also didn't have nearly the same successful career as Vader.
@feliperapidstar3951
4 ай бұрын
mike awesome to
The only modification I could see working for that finish is if Taker sat up and then hit the ropes before Vader jumped, causing him to drop onto the turnbuckle and then hang backwards off of it. Taker then might've been able to pick him up for a tombstone. Doesn't beat superhero esque visual of Vader flying through the air only to be caught and tombstoned lol.
Great to hear all these behind the curtain stories from the Undertaker himself. I would love to hear you talk about Randy Savage at some point in the future. Greetings from Germany.
Taker is frigging amazing. I can't believe no one saw anything in him except for Vince.
@shane-irish
5 ай бұрын
Bruce paul etc saw a lot in him
@Pittsburghbad
5 ай бұрын
It was the gimmick and the era. Look at how many dumb gimmicks great wrestlers had. Taker was definitely the perfect guy for that roll
@Ghost-fc9hw
4 ай бұрын
Bruce Pritchard pushed for him extremely hard when he was Kane the Undertaker, and was pushing him all the way until Kane debuted 7 years later
You have to admit that it wouldve been an epic finish had it actually taken place.
Taker is absolutely HILARIOUS!!!!!
AEW would script that finish
Vader was quite dominant in his rivalry with Undertaker in 1997. He defeated him in both royal rumble and a casket match in MSG.
Vader should have been like Sting and Never went. He was such a bada$$ in WCW and Japan
Vader could have had some epic battles with Mankind
@sabretooth5404
25 күн бұрын
He did have some epic battle with him, in Japan
Taker has that similar comedic timing to Cody when he does interviews like this, it's so good
@shane-irish
5 ай бұрын
You mean stardust
@knightshousegames
5 ай бұрын
@@shane-irish What year are you from? I mean Cody Rhodes. One of the best wrestlers in the business right now.
@shane-irish
5 ай бұрын
@@knightshousegames lolllllllllllllllllllll
@knightshousegames
5 ай бұрын
@@shane-irish I question why you are here if you aren't a fan of wrestling
@shane-irish
5 ай бұрын
@@knightshousegames im a fan since 1985 ya cartoon profile
*5:51* - I love how Mark's eyes were bugging out of their sockets as he was imitating Vader.
I could listen to Undertaker talk all day. He's a great storyteller.
HAPPY NEW YEARS TAKER !!!!!!!
Vader was the definition of Big In Japan
For two big guys like Undertaker and Vader, they matched up very well in the ring and had some enjoyable matches in 97-98. On paper, it shouldn't have worked because of their styles but they had great in ring chemistry. Prior to Kane and Lesnar performing unbelievable displays of strength, Undertaker picking up Vader for the tombstone with ease is still one of the most impressive things I have ever seen any living person ever do. It was insane.
This channel got over 100k subs in 3 months
@the undertaker you are the best wwe wrestler
Undertaker should make a video discussing his alleged heat with DDP.
RIP Vader and Bam Bam what great talents they were. ❤
6:02 - absolutely brilliant. Comedy gold!!!
I rewatched 'Taker-Vader Rumble '97 not long ago, still enjoyed it. 'Taker did a kind of guillotine legdrop when Vader went down for the backdrop, a move I only remember seeing him do on Vader. 'Taker also did the powerslam counter to Vader's dive off the top rope, which looked pretty cool, I think Vader had been doing that counter since WCW. If you remember, Vader won that match with the Vader bomb (I think Paul Bearer, then managing Vader, hit 'Taker with the urn first), it was still pretty rare for 'Taker to get beaten and Vader really needed a big win, having lost so much through '96. The Final Four match was good too, I guess 'Taker got his revenge, eliminating Vader, though Vader looked strong in that match too.
I will never forget going to see WWF live ...Undertaker had just began feud with Ultimate Warrior and he beat the hell out of him that night...kids were crying and it was just a great character...but I was right behind this 7 year old that slapped the Undertaker! Taker bowed up and my friend and I hauled ass! That kid had some serious balls! I was maybe 14 or 15...remember lying to my parents that we were going to get something to eat and then went to wrestling instead!Which we got busted bc we got jumped after the show....had our chains and money stolen....cops and ambulance had to come check us out and get statements, etc...but we had a GREAT TIME at the matches! lol
BIG FAN OF UNDERTAKER.90's KID.LOVE FROM MUMBAI INDIA.
I could listen to the Undartaker tell stories all day
a taker podcast??!?! Why the hell have I not heard about this before???
No one, and I mean no one tells better stories than UT. Period. End of Discussion. The Booker T roasting stories were the best.
@DMBFAN90
5 ай бұрын
If we could get rid of the awful co host it would be perfect
@Snyper1405
5 ай бұрын
It plays into the comedy@@DMBFAN90
@crispycruiser4654
5 ай бұрын
@@DMBFAN90You’re just a ball of positivity aren’t you?
@DMBFAN90
5 ай бұрын
@crispycruiser4654 because i dont like his co host?! Wtf are you talking about?
@jackhughes7637
5 ай бұрын
@@DMBFAN90He's so unoffensive. What's the issue?
Undertaker did give Vader the tombstone at some point which is a ridiculous feat. The spot Vader came up with was great but he’s just too big for that ,
Not only Taker but I think most of the wrestlers are a good story tellers.. Jericho is also a good story teller.. his story with Haku is soo interesting.. I want Taker to tell story on almost all wrestlers.. Wish he reads my comment :)
The visual of that would have been awesome if physically doable.. But I think what also would have been cool is if Vader was on the 2nd rope about to do that Vader Bomb, and doesn't realize that Taker sat up, as he goes to do the Vader Bomb, Taker slides from the side and under - hooks Vader just as he extends his legs from the ropes for the splash, and then Tombstones him..
Lol Vader wanted to turn Undertaker into a deadman real quick
How could taker have caught Vader? Lol, he would have been crushed. Shame it never worked for Leon in WWF. Bret had some good matches with him and he made Kane looks great.
@mattm7798
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, shame that injuries and Vince soured on him after Shawn bad mouthed him. If they had really pushed Vader, they could have got a nice 4-6 month reign from him.
One of my favorite matches of Vader's in WWF is when he wrestled Ken Shamrock on PPV, they beat the absolute shite out of each other.
"Does this feel fucking fake to you?!?!?!?" @Six Feet Under with Mark Calaway You looked kind of tense during that interview. What was going on in your mind at that moment.
Love it that Vader saw himself as a featherweight.
Poor Vader, I loved his character and that he should have been so much bigger then he was. WWf really dropped the ball with him, and sadly Shawn back then didn't help matters.
The Vader shoulder pads that shot off steam are one of the greatest accessories in wrestling. The urn is number 1 though
Really enjoying the channel.. would love to hear Taker’s thoughts on Vince Russo having worked with him in the 1990s
@juakeenbproducer
5 ай бұрын
He’d probably think he was the drizzling Shits
😂😂😂😂😂😂😅, Now we all FEAR Undertaker but Mr. Mark has taken stories & laughter to comedy. We even love him More!!!
this guy had paul doing his talking for years but today hes an amazing story telling. I wonder if its something he grew into or always had
"He loved it, he's gunna tell Vince right now!!" top tier shit housery from JBL lol
I wish taker would talk about all the movie offers he turned down because his heart was always in wrestling
Well... it's actually a huge compliment that Vader considered Taker to be SUPERHUMANLY strong.
To be fair as a fan it would be so amazing to have watched this happen if it could have safely.
That T-Shirt is awesome!
Love these stories and Vader rip was such a dominating monster Heel in WWF we saw glimpses of the destructive monster we know Vader can be especially when he attacked Gorilla Monsoon rip in WCW he was known as Big Van Vader he with Harley Race rip Vader and Mick Foley had some intense matches
Is there a full interview for this?
This channel is great
Except for the frog splash and the Vader Bomb is the only to “splashes” that looked like they where really impactful.
I’ll NEVER see Taker as a normal guy. He’s THE DEAD MAN! But he seems to be a humble, kind, thoughtful, man.
Its time its time its Vader time
Loved Vader as a heal he was awesome.
The Deadman such a great story teller!
Sheesh, I never thought I'd see Takrr atammer so much when trying to talk about someone. 😅
I wish Vader would have stayed long enough until the ruthless aggression era, Vader vs Lesnar would have been great.
Great story!
You know that sounds great on paper.
Vader vs Taker should have been saved for the Wrestlemania 13 main event. It was a dream match at the time & the WWF didn't do much at all to promote that.
🤣🤣🤣 taker was so pissed he didn't think to play along even further and have Vader run it by Vince
RIP Vader. The Undertaker = G.O.A.T.
Taker like aint nobody bout to catch your big ass 😂
It's time. It's time. It's Vader time!
That would have been an amazing spot
Undertaker is a great storyteller 😂
Takers gonna love that lmao
Mark is coolest cat ever such a nice guy
I haven't laughed this hard in a long while. 🤣
Everything that I have heard Taker say sounds exactly like something Bruce Prichard has said. This makes me feel like Bruce really is honest.
It’s time it’s Vaaaaaadeeerrr tiiimmeeee! That was a great story and rib hahaha
I mean, even if it was a sit up and Vader missing, that would have been a bad idea, but it does sound like something I would have loved to see!
Leon was a legend
I miss Vader. One of those monster heels you never see these days.
That’s a brilliant spot…if your opponent is Superman. Vader was never afraid to make his opponent look like a million bucks but that idea was a little too ambitious 😂
Every WWF locker room story about Vader that I've ever heard was about him being bullied.
It would’ve been a badass move but nobody in the business is that badass.
That is such a good story lol
Rest in peace Leon White aka Big Van Vader. #ITSTIME #ITSTIME #ITSVADERTIME !!!!
Vader is the man. Always said the ultimate dream match was Vader vs Brock Lesnar.