Unmasking Marvel's Spider-Man 2 with Bryan Intihar - Beyond 821
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SPOILER ALERT!!! On this week’s episode of Podcast Beyond, Insomniac’s Creative Director Bryan Intihar stopped by to discuss everything Spider-Man 2. We explore the reveals we saw coming, the twists that caught us off-guard, the stuff that was planned for this sequel since day one and the ideas that got left on the cutting room floor. We also touch on how Insomniac Games teased the return of a major villain and how the studio approaches MCU-style crossovers with other projects like Beyond The Spider-Verse and Insomniac’s upcoming Wolverine video game. We also dig into the creative choices that veer from comic book lore, discover the suit that almost made the cut, and get the lowdown on why MJ’s role in the game packs a punch - but again, SPOILERS ahead, so if you haven’t finished this massive PS5 game, go do that!
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Why didn't they ask about the cut "content" from the Saudi Arabian port?
@TenGirlfriends
6 ай бұрын
Because that’s not his decision, he probably doesn’t agree with it but it’s not up to him, that’s up to Sony and they want to make as much money as possible so
@Timic83tc
3 ай бұрын
@@TenGirlfriends So they get a better game than us? Thats not fair
Havent seen anyone point out that we had other content cut just for those MJ missions...
@josepalominos7751
6 ай бұрын
If you look at social media most of the crowd this games drawn in are apart of the “progressive” nature which is why most people say they love the mj missions and think they’re fun.
@RubyKing1997
6 ай бұрын
You're the second comment I've come across that mentions this.
@JooshMaGoosh
6 ай бұрын
@@RubyKing1997 this is a 4 day old comment so yeah that's possible.
@ATG913
6 ай бұрын
Painful.
@JooshMaGoosh
6 ай бұрын
@@ATG913 Think about it too. The cut content, could've been more venom missions. (Specifically ones that show him oh idk setting up the symbiote invasion?) That'd be pretty cool.
56:15 so they cut other content to fit the MJ missions? Imagine how much more could have been there if there were no MJ missions
@CharlieComicsOfficial
6 ай бұрын
That stuck with me too. Could of gave us more Venom missions.
@GFlight.916
6 ай бұрын
Wrong opinion. I'm surprised your comment hasn't been deleted.
@RubyKing1997
6 ай бұрын
@@GFlight.916now that you mentioned it I'm surprised too.
@gc8568
6 ай бұрын
@@RubyKing1997are they deleting negative comments?
@RubyKing1997
6 ай бұрын
@@gc8568 don't know but comments like these tend to get censored by KZread sometimes.
19 inches of Venom was definitely worth the wait !!!
@ironbran12
6 ай бұрын
Because that joke isn't old. Clever !
@spider-rick
6 ай бұрын
@@ironbran12comments consists of recycled garbage cuz no one is original anymore
@moonmancastro
6 ай бұрын
pause
They cut content for MJ missions that nobody wanted? The message is strong with these developers
Gonna need this guy to explain Miles’ last suit because yikes
@SmokeySantana
6 ай бұрын
Miles and krull symbiote
@ABozowithDignity
6 ай бұрын
Never let Miles cook again
The epitome of hypocrisy. Claim you were very passionate about the LGBTQ+ content....THEN REMOVE IT FOR THE OVERSEAS VERSIONS. Congrats. Ya played yaself.
Can we just get Insomniac to have their own gaming MCU?
@blasian4260
6 ай бұрын
So making a spidernan game and a wolverine games is not building there mcu?
@Chaosedits_CH02
6 ай бұрын
Marvel gaming universe(MGU)
@uuntitled4260
6 ай бұрын
@@blasian4260it’s gotta lead to a avengers game 🤷🏽♂️ don’t need to be avengers but with spider man, miles spider man , silk, Deadpool, wolverine, daredevil
@giwrgos1702
6 ай бұрын
They already have one brother/sister
@JosephWitty
6 ай бұрын
MGU, said it years ago haha
We know people didn't like it and it makes no sense but we don't care, we will make the fans love Mary Jane and the chin of power segments.
@IamKiener
6 ай бұрын
The DLC will be 5 more MJ missions where she chases down plastic surgeons all across Manhattan.
@thegrandmaster9423
6 ай бұрын
Fr like bro no one wants to play as MJ in a spider-man game😭😭
@garethflook5706
2 ай бұрын
@@IamKiener lmao!!
When Uncle Aaron mentions not getting a radio gig because of this “group from Staten Island” 👌🏿🔥
@edeasdrew2050
6 ай бұрын
Wu tang clan reference 🔥
@CrossedCollar
6 ай бұрын
Didn’t notice that! Suuuuuuuuuuuu!
Can't wait to see what the DLC will feature for this installment.
@ShaneMakesMovies
6 ай бұрын
I'm thinking they do Carnage as the DLC, while setting up Silk. Or just purely do Carnage and save Silk for another Miles style spin off game to hold us over until Spider-Man 3
@Milz.T
6 ай бұрын
Carnage for sure DLC And like the guy above me mentioned, they will prolly have a after credit scene where Silk gets her powers in an insomniac way/vision. Then set her up for maybe more future dlc or straight into MSM3
@divyangvaidya9675
6 ай бұрын
@@Milz.T Hopefully. But would it fit as a DLC. Carnage is a pretty big villain.
@justdaffy
6 ай бұрын
@@divyangvaidya9675 I'm hoping they do what they did before with three different DLCs hopefully all building up to Carnage in the last one with maybe Chameleon or other symbiotes like Toxin and Riot along the way
@divyangvaidya9675
6 ай бұрын
@@justdaffy Oh yeah. They could definitely go that route also. That'd be better rather than just having one DLC for Carnage.
Low key hated the addition of a parry. Just doesnt feel like something spiderman would do. Imp doing a last second dodge should be the parry
@Neonz.
6 ай бұрын
same!
@thegrandmaster9423
6 ай бұрын
Yea more of a brute type of character for parry would be ok like for Wolverine or something, but not spidey he’s all about agility
Carnage is a huge villan and its appropriate to do a Carnage DLC because we are in the symbiote era doing Carnage in Spider-Man 3 would take away from Green Goblin unless we get Red Goblin but it looks like Otto is cooking up something maybe a break out
Surprised IGN didn’t rate this video a 6 or 7 and say, “more of the same from IGN videos” or something dumb like that.
@taxicorky
6 ай бұрын
Why? Because they were right in their review about Spiderman 2?
@ShinKamaitachi
6 ай бұрын
@taxicorky IGN forgot to mention that the game was buggy as hell. With all the bugs and stuff it should have been a 7.
@eliminator1472
6 ай бұрын
@@ShinKamaitachiThose bugs are not a permanent issue and besides they aren’t experienced by everyone
@Mr.PR2000
6 ай бұрын
@@eliminator1472they were experienced by most people …
_Doc Ock - Challenged Peter's Intelligence! 🧠_ _Venom - Challenges Pete & Miles' Strength! 💪🏾_ _Green Goblin - Will Challenge our heroes' Hearts/Emotions! ♥️_
Why was Peter turned into a damsel for mj and miles to save several times?
@IamKiener
6 ай бұрын
DEI, ESG
@ResolvedMC
6 ай бұрын
@@IamKienerand Sweet Baby Inc.
@IamKiener
6 ай бұрын
@@ResolvedMC yup cause DEI and ESG is their Forte. Sadley.
As a gamer with additional support needs, the focus on accessibility and inclusion is much appreciated.
So let me get this straight…You not only cut content for MJ missions but also didn’t justify her being OP which could have been done much better if they implemented anything other than her tasing Kraven’s men all the time without any proper training…
@stroel9861
6 ай бұрын
Bro what? She did have training. From Silver Sable herself. It was even said in the game.
@karthikpavan8837
6 ай бұрын
@@stroel9861Sure, a journalist with a few months of training takes down hunters who have trained their whole lives 🤷♂️. Make it make sense.
@properduction2586
6 ай бұрын
@@stroel9861 If she was “actually” trained by Sable,she do more than just tase,tase and tase…
@tomelding9839
5 ай бұрын
There is a man made of sand in this game...
@JustStuey
5 ай бұрын
@@tomelding9839So? It's still dumb to have a normal woman with a taser to take down these fighters with such ease...
So instead of more missions with venom you give us shitty mj missions. Wild
Should've cut MJ sequence entirely, shit's boring. Post-ending Free-Roam playable Venom should be featured.
You now what happened to battlefield when they say we don't care what fans say? It begins the downfall of insomniac
It wasn’t actually sandman in the vile..it was just a sample of the sand after he won the fight. People get so hung up on details. It’s an awesome video game universe, just play and enjoy! That was my take on it at least!
@TheVagabond627
6 ай бұрын
So why did Peter hesitate to open the vial?
@eliminator1472
6 ай бұрын
@@TheVagabond627Because he was worried it may be dangerous. That’s exactly what he says.
@NOVSinSinga
6 ай бұрын
Where does it say that it's not sandman and it's just a sample of him. From the booking collectible and Brian's explanation, it sounds like it was sand man in the vial. They even did it in the ultimate spiderman game. Brian could've easily said this but he keeping the narrative alive that it's sandman
Bring on Spider-Man 3 with green goblin, carnage and silk
@kennycodes
6 ай бұрын
And Doc Ock 👌🏾
Deviating from the comics with confidence worked so well here; it reminds me of Arkham knight where they wanted to “be original” and then instead awkwardly re told red hood. So impressed with insomniac’s approach here and trust in their Vision.
@BryanKalloo
6 ай бұрын
Agreed for Arkham Knight, they for sure wanted to give you the great story of Red Hood but they didn't want you to expect it because it's a popular story. Game and movie adaptations have this problem all the time. Deviation is great when it works but horrible when it doesn't lol
@coreymoore8695
6 ай бұрын
@@BryanKallooThis is a terrible sentiment. They said they didn't want to do a red hood story to subvert expectations? The Arkham Knight was a Red Hood story. The fact they built it up as a mystery for months despite the fact that thousands of people correctly guessed the identity of the Arkham Knight a year before the game came out. It's still Jason Todd aka Red Hood doing Red Hood things but in a different costume and name. Expectations blown!! And guess what happens after he's revealed he changes his mask into a Red Hood.
Hopefully no more Mj missions still. Wasn’t too bad this time tho but I’m over it lol
1:02:10 Daredevil
The guy wearning green has great questions.
@fredo3161
6 ай бұрын
Lol. A fellow noticer.
@IamKiener
6 ай бұрын
It's those darn ESG, DEI scores.
imagine playing a spiderman game where venom appears but you get less playing time with venom while mary jane the character that literally everyone hated playing as gets more gameplay time, also middle east version lmao
Imagine getting all the feedback and you just tell the fans "up yours"....
Spoiler alert: It’s Peter Parker.
@captainj6298
6 ай бұрын
Or Miles Morales, Ben Reilly, Otto Octavius (sorta)…
@fariskhalifa8403
6 ай бұрын
Or Spider-Man the cat 🐈
What about Peter with the anti venom suit?
Of course this dude was in tears 💀
@Dutchy-lf5kf
6 ай бұрын
Bro needs to men up 💀
@itsserjuuu
6 ай бұрын
frl frl doods a loser
@thespider8654
6 ай бұрын
Who
@matter187
6 ай бұрын
@@thespider8654 the one that’s pretending to be a girl
@EDGEOFTHISWORLD
6 ай бұрын
@@thespider8654the weirdo
This game should be called Mary Jane 2
@IamKiener
6 ай бұрын
More like "DEI the marvelous ESG score"
@ChaseR206
6 ай бұрын
@@IamKienertf does that even mean
@IamKiener
6 ай бұрын
@@ChaseR206 look it up... if you don't know you probably should it's literally what's running hollywood, the media, and the gaming industry.
@IamKiener
6 ай бұрын
@@ChaseR206 Google DEI and ESG.
We need a Venom game
Do they talk about scream?
Drinking game: Everytime Bryan Intihar says “like” take a shot
@justdaffy
6 ай бұрын
you could play that drinking game with 90% of the English speaking world, it's called "Filleritis". Take a shot every time someone says "um" or "you know" or "er"
Bummed that they seem to be pushing Peter out of the picture..
The mj mission where she’s running from Peter should’ve been the only one
Bryan stutters more than XQC
When he said he wasn’t going to kill somebody obviously , I’d beg to differ on that . Whirl winding man hole covers into humans is pretty insane 😂😂😂
Why so many dislikes?
@michaeldelarge9582
6 ай бұрын
Based off the comments, it seems like people didn't like the MJ missions lol
@desihayward2510
5 ай бұрын
@@michaeldelarge9582those missions are annoying asf but it’s no where near as bad people make them out to be
@arthurlobao2642
2 ай бұрын
@@desihayward2510maybe its because they cut the fun parts of the game to make you play as mary jane .
@LOMAZKO7
17 күн бұрын
How can you see dislikes?
Should of asked questions about anti venom !!!
We need a 100% suit please
Bryan: Now its my time for the questions, Why an 8?
Masterpiece
Replace Peter with Miles and loose money.
@IamKiener
6 ай бұрын
They know this... just look at the miles game sales... they obviously don't care though. Like he said about the MJ missions " we will force you to like it" before they ever listen to the fan base. ESG/DEI scores are all they care about anymore.
@jbstudios3000
6 ай бұрын
@@IamKiener lol wherever 😂 they can lose money
This interview and panel is everything wrong with modern gaming
@saqlaq96
6 ай бұрын
How so?
@difference3maker36
4 ай бұрын
@@saqlaq96you cut sections we wanted to play for more MJ sections that we didn’t want to play?
These "creatives" at insominiac must be fired.
Bryan Inithar famous now. Doning the Clark Kent attire to go undercover 🤣. Him and his team deserves all the success in the whole.
How lame is it that they put scream in but didn’t even talk about symbiote kraven
@CMDComMonDenominator
6 ай бұрын
Scream is probably the weakest selling charcter and kravens version is even worse.
@jonathantalley6110
6 ай бұрын
@@CMDComMonDenominator it’s not about how popular it is it’s about how they could use the characters. The symbiote usually like to have strong capable host so why did he only infect the weakest character in the entire game?
Peter Parker and Peter Darker
@Armspider4215
6 ай бұрын
💀💀💀 wtflip eyo
@samjetstream4074
6 ай бұрын
Ayo 🗿
best Venom theme for me,
Imagine how much more venom sections we could have gotten had insomniac listen to fan feedback an removed all the MJ parts instead of cutting actual interesting content.
@IamKiener
6 ай бұрын
But they needed to hit that magical ESG/DEI score.
*How was Black Cat never talked about?!* Were you not allowed?
Why is no one talking about how they ignored the fact that Venom is supposed to be able to bypass Peters spider-sense? It's always been one of his biggest advantages!
Hats off to spider man 2 but I’m hoping you guys do dlc and make venom a playable character that would be lit and make carnage dlc as a boss 3 part boss
@kennylove5653
6 ай бұрын
Not this one, don’t give away all the surprises but make the 3rd installment epic.
@BlamedxJoker
6 ай бұрын
Nah carnage needs own game id definitely wait for that
@justdaffy
6 ай бұрын
@@BlamedxJoker idk about having another game centered around a symbiote villain again, I'd rather get him in DLC than have him shoved in like Sandman or Mysterio five years from now. Especially since it seems like Green Goblin will be the next main antagonist
@fredo3161
6 ай бұрын
No dude, they just need more Mary Jane segments.
@IamKiener
6 ай бұрын
@@fredo3161someone gets it. 🎉😅
Put Mary Jane in it! Make it lame!
Nahh if one thing was bad in the game, was the "Electric SPIDERRR" Like nah man. Let our beloved spider-man out of this.
This fool ruined Spiderman what a clown
Bro knowing they gave me an 8, they don’t deserve an interview
Unbelievable ?! 🗿
We all knew Insomniac was bullish!tting when they said that Venom wasn’t gonna be Harry😂 NOBODY believed them for a min
@FlyntPrince
6 ай бұрын
They said Eddie wasn't going to be venom not Harry
There needs to be a dlc for spider man 2 the story was short but that's alight.
@CMDComMonDenominator
6 ай бұрын
Felt pretty long to me but time isn't real anyway so who knows
@x2xdj408
6 ай бұрын
@@CMDComMonDenominatorfaxxx
Aren't we all Spider man fans?
They bit off his head ain’t no way bringing that back
@beancheesedip8337
6 ай бұрын
Tbf, Kraven straight up Kurt Cobain'd himself, and he still came back. Comics are weird like that lol
Will Peter even have a Rogue's Gallery?? Kraven pretty much killed most of them
@Vareiance
4 ай бұрын
Nope, it’s miles turn now, but he doesn’t have any villians so idk
I'm calling it the next game no Peter. Miles and Cindy verses Carnage and the other rogues.
@NoArmsSally
6 ай бұрын
Next game is probably Miles 2 lol
@TheMach1nist
6 ай бұрын
You're smoking rocks if you think Peter will stay retired.
@jeffreyd.4878
6 ай бұрын
Peter will come out of retirement and save Miles as a surprise. How can Cindy be a spider hero if she hasn’t gotten her powers yet? They have to build her up first like they did miles in the first game
@mrsubtlemouth6838
6 ай бұрын
Yeah not happening. No way they do a 3rd game without peter. Might be less involved but he will deff be there
@mrsubtlemouth6838
6 ай бұрын
@@jeffreyd.4878 maybe they do a small cindy focused game before spiderman 3? Like they did with miles
Can we get a full Mary Jane game? Those were by far the best parts of these games. 😅
@Drshimmy
6 ай бұрын
What?
@arthurlobao2642
2 ай бұрын
🤣
Platnuimed it. Proud brag
Dude we WANT TO FREE ROAM AS VENOM AND CARNAGE AS BONUS THATS IT
One of the biggest gripes about this game is how awful JJJ looks, he looks like a angry Mario brother…
@NadeemShekh-uy9zn
6 ай бұрын
He looks like the actor playing him Darin DePaul
@bradhobbs3662
6 ай бұрын
@@NadeemShekh-uy9zn not a fan at all
@eliminator1472
6 ай бұрын
He looks just like how JJJ should look…
Bryan Intihar, please release a physical PS5 version of Spider-Man Remastered with all DLC and updates on disc, sir. Preservation matters, and the fans deserve it.
@LethalProtector8000
6 ай бұрын
You think that's all up to him? 😂
@mas96
6 ай бұрын
Tht up for PlayStation dumbass 😅😅😅 not him
WELCOME TO THE PANDERVERSE!!!
Says your the first to know about sandman venom. Yet also tell kinda funny they are the first to know and same with GameSpot
Hopefully they learn from spider man 2 and understand why everyone liked the first game more than 2
They really complaining ab dots 🙄
He's definitely the type of guy that would call the cops if you punch him.
@jakemarnelakis577
6 ай бұрын
What?
@mattes4238
6 ай бұрын
@@jakemarnelakis577 meaning he's a wuss
@Infinity-has
Ай бұрын
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Phase 1 Marvel's Spider-Man Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Marvel's Spider-Man 2(Bettle, Carnage and Spider-Verse DLC), Online Mode, and Multiplayer Mode Phase 2 Marvel's Wolverine Marvel's Venom Marvel's Spider-Man 3 Untitled Ratchet & Clank Game Phase 3 Marvel's X-Men Marvel's Spider-Man: Cindy Moon Marvel's Spider-Man 4 Marvel's Spider-Man: Gwen Stacy Marvel's Spider-Man 5
what the Phuck is that !? 🤣🤣
No Day for Night, very little Venom time, but we did get 5 Mary Jane missions. Bryan. Step down and never return.
Bryan seems like a nice guy. He’s got a lot of nice things to say about his team and their efforts, making sure they’re credited for what they’ve accomplished. Mad respect.
Insomniac really about to make a MVU
Dog what on Earth is that
@balls52
6 ай бұрын
What is this mf baffling about
How tf did we not get a Miguel suit in this game but we got 5 Tom holland suits
@KTLaughter
6 ай бұрын
The 2099 suit is literally in the game
@jonathantalley6110
6 ай бұрын
@@KTLaughter yea and it looks nothing like the Miguel from the movie. Look up Spider-Man 2099 into the spider verse mod for Spider-Man remastered. There’s a clear difference between the spider verse noir suit and the style on teh 2099
@eulidesgonzalez6940
6 ай бұрын
It will be added later in a dlc or maybe in a free update
@GoronMerchant
6 ай бұрын
Cause the hired and fired someone one to look like Tom Holland.
@NadeemShekh-uy9zn
6 ай бұрын
@@jonathantalley6110you didn't mention the movie version in your original comment
It’s so damn refreshing to hear Insomniac repeatedly show more passion than so many other groups putting out AAA titles today.
spider-monke?! ☠️☠️
Yest ign gave it an 8. Wa wa waaaa
IGN December 24
This entire interview this guy was patting himself on the back for the Shoehorned subversion, and you guys just sat there nodding your heads in agreeance. Shameful.
marvel zombies marvel what ifs hmmmm
When your writing is so bad that you need Sweet Baby Inc to make the writing even worse. 😂😂😂
You can tell they don’t care about the finer details in this lmao wtf Bryan
Criminal that sweatpants pete isn’t a thing
BRO WHAT IF CARNAGE IS IN THE WOLVERINE GAME
@balls52
6 ай бұрын
No
@andreasbone602
6 ай бұрын
Wolverine will be a trans black dude, wait for it.
They only post Spiderman 2 lmao ign with all the spoils 😂
Sooo, you didn’t give a crap about turning MJ into a character that she isn’t. Nice approach to game design.
Predictable story
For everything they got right in this game, like the first one, the game was still super repititive by the end. The boss battles in particular had very little imagination. Arkam is still is the king!
Kudos to INSOMNIAC! ILL LITERALLY SAY THEY CAN BE UP THERE WITH ROCKSTAR! THERE A MASTERMIND! KUDOS
@lastHERO22
5 ай бұрын
they are no where near the level of rockstar in terms of actual game mechanics. What you smoking
@garethflook5706
2 ай бұрын
@@lastHERO22 And writing. and characters, and world building, and narrative, etc. etc. Insomniac are B-tier
@lastHERO22
2 ай бұрын
@@garethflook5706 yes you are 1000% correct
A man or woman???!!!
@m0h51n_1
6 ай бұрын
😂😂😂