The thing that makes this show so much fun is the fact everyone has to sell their underrated card like they are on shark tank, and everybody is hilariously vicious with their takes in response.

“I think Richard be tripping” -Seth

“Kenrith’s Transformation is incredibly good” Richard *clicks tongue* “Sorcery speed, not good enough…” 😒😒😒

@toddpacker1015

19 күн бұрын

I have to agree with Richard on this. I spent too much removal yesterday alone killing commanders before boots were equipped it's insane.

Always love hearing you guys! You often disagree, but you don't let it define the podcast. You have real discussions, and are always having a blast! A real uplifting podcast for a serious listener! 😀

@diegotejada55

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, listening to this podcast made me realize how bored I was of pretty much every other Commander podcast, every other podcast has one person saying "Here's the 80th commander we're reading today, it's green, I think Rampant Growth is a good card to put in this deck" and one or two people saying "Wow, yeah, good thinking" I really don't want to be mean, but man are actual discussion and differing opinions refreshing

I've seen Trading Post do work. It's pretty easy to get incredible value with it over a long game.

Spreading Plague in Belbe Eldrazi? Holy cow. That would be Crim-inal.

@TheMaskedHero

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. It's the best card in Shattergang Eldrazi.

@SilverKarlov

3 жыл бұрын

How about in Ramos, Dragon Engine? Your commander is colourless and doesn’t die to it, and you’re already wanting to play 5-colour creatures to give Ramos the counters. Play a cheap dude that’s all colours, and wipe all your opponents’ creatures.

@MapWryte

3 жыл бұрын

@@SilverKarlov Your Ramos suggestion is delightful. "Cheap dude that's all colours" is a tall order 😅, but I'm picking up what you're putting down.

@SilverKarlov

3 жыл бұрын

@@MapWryte Yeah, I had exactly transguild courier in my head, but honestly, the kinds of creatures you'd play in that deck just work really well to let your big ramos boy swing in for lethal

@moebiuseight7977

Жыл бұрын

@@SilverKarlov i have a spreading plague eldrazi deck i use when i want to troll my friends a bit.

Note to editor: It would have been really handy to show Lost Vale at any point during the Dowsing Dagger conversation. It wasn't well explained what the transformed side did, so it was mostly confusing until I looked it up myself.

Chiming in for Seth's pick of Trading Post. That "return an artifact from graveyard to hand" has swayed SO many games in our play group. Artifact destruction is everywhere, so if your artifacts are important, this is a great way to keep them around.

@stankylegg1782

3 жыл бұрын

I like it as a grindy value engine. I play it in Saheeli, and it gets extra spicy with Unwinding Clock.

@PhazonOmega

3 жыл бұрын

Cool points! I still don't think it's underrated, but I'm glad to know what kind of deck this would go into. Not for most decks, but for some artifact decks.

@Kryptnyt

3 жыл бұрын

It's also important to have a sac outlet a lot of the time to keep your stuff from getting exiled. Trading Post is a very good one

@SilverKarlov

3 жыл бұрын

It’s definitely one of those cards that reads really bad, but plays surprisingly well. I’ve looped many a solemn simulacrum with it, and it allows you to get really grindy.

@alenphull

3 жыл бұрын

Not to mention its flexibility. It does something relevant at each stage of the game. It’s recovery, survival, card advantage, and combo all at once

52:25 should be a Commander Clash Moment with a zoom in on Seth's facial expression. That was priceless

Richard: Dowsing is cool and ramps you a ton Seth: Trading Post is a cool value engine if you get it going Tomer: Cheese people out with Bolt bend Crim: MAKE SURE NO ONE EVER HAS ANY CREATURES AND BOARD WIPE EVERY OTHER TURN WITH SPREADING PLAGUE

I think their dismissal of Deflecting Swat is the hottest (and wrongest) take in the whole episode.

They completely went over the fact that Search For Glory will get you any planeswalker in your deck

@xnevyn5578

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! I was just about to comment the same thing.

@nathanjones5851

Жыл бұрын

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Another thing I noticed from this Podcast episode is that Crim REALLY emphasizes mana sinks, and I agree. More players should consider cards that enable them to do things when they're out of action or otherwise topdecking

@ms.sysbit5511

3 жыл бұрын

If only he liked half-decent mana sinks.

@swirlingtoilets

3 жыл бұрын

@@ms.sysbit5511 I don't think that's totally fair. As far as budget, underplayed alternatives go, I think both his mana sink picks are interesting enough to be worth consideration.

@ms.sysbit5511

3 жыл бұрын

@@swirlingtoilets Soothsaying is not even a real sink. 5 mana to shuffle? X mana to rearrange X cards on the library? Neither of those modes seems worthwhile. The Tutor was the same mana as Trading Post which he bashed. Yet it takes more conditions and yet more mana to get a conditional tutor in black. Ironically the best example of an effect he’d want based on held up mana not being wasted would be Seth’s suggestion: Trading Post. Low mana and always a relevant mode. I think mana sinks are great but his examples here barring Wrong Turn and Spreading Plague were pretty poor imo.

@swirlingtoilets

3 жыл бұрын

@@ms.sysbit5511 I just couldn't disagree more. The comparison between Trading Post and Night Dealings is surface level at best. Tutoring a card is significantly different (and more powerful) than anything Trading Post does. And sure, the mana sink cost of Soothsaying is expensive, but it's a one drop. You can easily play it for one mana and sit back and use it when you want/need it. These cards aren't supremely powerful or anything, but they're fine as lower budget, interesting mana sinks

@ms.sysbit5511

3 жыл бұрын

@@swirlingtoilets 8 mana to tutor limited in black after doing damage? Night Dealings is stone unplayable. Trading Post lets you sac/discard anything, make chumps, gain life (a rarely included but often needed effect), recur artifacts, or possibly draw cards. It’s way better to pay a lot upfront rather than a lot each activation. Sure, TP’s first activation at 5 total mans is generally eh at best but the second is 6, then 7 then 8. Compare that to 8-12-16? How many tutors do you need until Night Dealings is even a modest rate? It never becomes one.

Just coming from the future to say that Flowstone Hedron is an amazing card. Nine mana for a four mana rock that can be cashed in for four cards is NUTTY!!

@Amphidsf

3 жыл бұрын

It's only an 8 cost spell.

@Kryptnyt

3 жыл бұрын

It would be 8 mana, following the trend, and four to cash in for cards. In a way, Chromatic Orrery is already your card.

@PalPlays

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kryptnyt Guys, I'm from the *future,* they printed it at 9 mana for a reason. *"They offered Mogis endless ruinations."* To anger Tomer.

@Kryptnyt

3 жыл бұрын

@@PalPlays Doubtful, I'm more willing to believe you're a liar from the future, or a guy with faulty memory from the future

I've been binge watching MTG Goldfish this past week just jumping around to random topics and gameplay. The highlight has been following the coveted jewel story arc in reverse starting with everyone laughing about the time Richard killed everyone because Tomer and Seth were too busy fighting over "The Jewel". Then, watching that gameplay and seeing just how badly they fell to their avarice. Finally, this arc has come to an end seeing Richard offer up "The Jewel" as an underrated, powerful card and Seth totally shoots it down. It's Shakespearean!

@Arcadious10

2 жыл бұрын

@longshot. Omg i just did this too. @mtggoldfish should do a short meme video on this. Especially secret Rendezvous

Wrong turn is really underestimated, I don’t understand how people don’t see it. I have a powerful Geleva deck - someone destroyed it - I replay it and exile even more cards and destroy people. Someone gives My Commander to someone else and my deck is DEAD. 3 mana - destroy target player, whose deck relies a lot on commander.

@PalPlays

3 жыл бұрын

Same with Mystic Subdual and its kin.

@M1E1R

3 жыл бұрын

Golo, Yuriko, Edgar, Sisay, Feather, Krrik, Morophon, Arcades, Torbran and so on are all top commanders that have very little to no use given to a player that does not support the colors or creature types. It is a great tool in mono-u. And unlike mystic subdual, the controller is incentivized to keep it alive.

@Volvary

2 жыл бұрын

Wrong Turn is definetely underestimated. I have sent games spiraling by Wrong Turn'ing a Commander into the hands of the Control player and seeing them throw counters spells at kill spells coming from the player who's commander was WT'ed aimed at that very commander.

@hunterlee2067

2 жыл бұрын

I know I'm pretty late to the discussion but like any removal that you can play to reset your game plan just gets you back on track right?

just got to seth's first card and all I have to say is THANK YOU SETH. trading post is so underrated! it takes a little bit of synergy, whether it be with discarding cards, making tokens, or artifact shenanigans, but it's fantastic when utilized correctly. it's the type of card you need to play with to appreciate imo.

@andrewpaul8732

2 жыл бұрын

In strefan where creatures are cheated onto the board for free trading post turns your blood tokens into "pay 1 draw a card"

@vaporeon344

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewpaul8732ain’t gonna lie, that sounds like a really janky way of just making a phyrexian Arena. Props for the synergy though! I currently run it in my braids artifactocrats list, and it spins gears quite nicely.

Trading Post is one of my favorite cards, I'm so glad to see it talked about here. I put it in any deck where at least one of the modes is relevant, and it's always good. And if it somehow isn't? It cycles!

I feel that Richard's cuddly fish on the couch is watching me

@kingfuzzy2

3 жыл бұрын

You are not wrong

@zztzgza

3 жыл бұрын

It escaped from his garage lol

Richard speaks the truth. Dowsing Dagger is a great include, especially in equipment decks.

@Hawko1313

8 ай бұрын

yeah, dowsing dagger is great in equipment decks as you can tutor it and hit early if you need, and easily get evasion with the bodies that you'll have available.

Rampage of the Clans feels dangerous with the amount of treasure floating around nowadays.

@kingfuzzy2

3 жыл бұрын

Well coming from a game where someone had 48 treasures from smothering tithe in one turn I concur

@peewee130946

3 жыл бұрын

That’s a good point

@wesleywyndam-pryce5305

Жыл бұрын

curious herd is my pick over it. pick the dude with all the treasures and get 20 creatures for 4 mana

I immediately got myself a Spreading Plague as soon as Crim played it a few weeks ago to put in my enchantment heavy Oloro deck. My friends love to play with me

@mmissing3

3 жыл бұрын

still looking for /s tag....

People's arguments around things like Dowsing Dagger cause me to think there isn't enough land destruction in commander games.

@gypsieking3280

3 жыл бұрын

There isn't. Truly

@PalPlays

3 жыл бұрын

Or Thespian's Stage.

@hopposai787

3 жыл бұрын

It's because of the "social contract". However I agree with you 100 percent. I believe it's why you see so many landfall decks. They're taking advantage of the lack of land removal.

@Dethklokroady

3 жыл бұрын

People seem to think all land destruction is bad, but really we should see more targeted ld for those big value lands.

@ThunderousChemQ27

3 жыл бұрын

I snap Strip Mine and Ghost Quarter in every deck I play, up to 3-color. Gotta blow up those utility lands somehow.

Richard without glasses! How different from Richard with glasses!

@daddio89

3 жыл бұрын

tbh I really prefer this. Obviously his choice, but those other glasses were very.... strange

@FakeDonut

3 жыл бұрын

I'd say, to please the fans of both forms of Richard, fuse them and have Richard with a monocle

This podcast is by far my favorite thus far. Also each card Crim mentions sounds like they are all ridiculously fun.

This gets a like just for Richard's first pick alone!

@PatNave_

3 жыл бұрын

I ended up adding Dowsing Dagger to like everything because of Richard about a year and a half ago. I am a huge believe and love playing Thespian Stage and Vesuva alongside it.

@colinhoban8660

3 жыл бұрын

richard is the most based of the crew

@stevendefeo8424

2 жыл бұрын

Trash

@bettereveryjay-9594

Жыл бұрын

@@PatNave_ 9 in ióoi III III

@bettereveryjay-9594

Жыл бұрын

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Soothsaying is honestly pretty nice in controlling decks. Its a card that my friends have grown to counter because I have gotten so much value from it, and the shuffling can randomly be relevent.

@KillerNyanCat

3 жыл бұрын

Wanted to follow up on this because I was busy. I understand why some people look at it as an overcosted scroll rack or what have you, but when it comes down to it, being able to sink mana into something with an upfront cost of ONE MANA is unbelievably useful. The ability to keep up mana and have something to sink mana into is extremely underrated. I own 8 decks, all of which are budget, so cards like soothsaying are often out of budget, but soothsaying of course is fairly cheap. It is great in decks that care about the top card, as you rearrange every card within X, allowing for several turns of set up if used correctly on one activation. I don't know, for something that is 1 mana and sticks on the battlefield, you can far worse than it. Please try it out in your control decks, top-of-deck matters decks, Yuriko decks, and so one, its so worth the inclusion in many cases.

Dowsing dagger is my go to card in many of my non-green decks. It's awesome

this is a fantastic topic. love to see it as a fleshed out version of Tomer's thread on twitter. would always be happy to see more topics in this vein. opens up cool conversation and gives the audience a sense of validation when they agree, a sense of discovery when they're convinced and something to chew on when they disagree

Thank you for introducing me to Skullwinder! I think it's at its worst when you're ahead / archenemy, maybe you can use politics to make someone return a mediocre card. But the upside of a deathtouch body (definitely relevant in games I'm in) and the potential of assisting a player that's behind or getting someone that answer to a threat is sweet. Some other picks are mindboggling to me but that's fun too :-)

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2 жыл бұрын

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2 жыл бұрын

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2 жыл бұрын

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I think it's important to recognize there are more optimized versions but the importance of having pet cards or unique memory making cards is important especially to the social context of the format. I imagine the game where you create a funny board state or get a unique blowout with Wrong Turn outways the times you'll distinctly remember casting pongify for the 30th time.

Really great episode! Lots of neat cards and things to bring to the table!

Richard, I too have been running Dowsing Dagger for years 😂 back when it dropped and it was pennies I grabbed like 10 for $2 and it goes in everything

I think two of the most underrated cards in recent memory are Fervent Mastery and Ingenious Mastery from Strixhaven. In Standard, they're pretty close to stone-cold unplayable. That means that in paper they're both less than a quarter between being bulk rares and Strixhaven being somewhat heavily opened for the Mystical Archive cards. In a multiplayer format like Commander, however, they're both monsters. Ingenious Mastery is the more obviously decent one, since it's a draw 3 for three that lets you make an ally or otherwise lets you give whichever player is least likely to interact with you on your combo turn a bit of value for a slightly above rate draw 3. It goes really hard with stuff like Goblin Electromancer and Baral in particular, pretty often turning into Ancestral Recall in the UR Storm list I've been trying it out in. That's without discussing it being sorcery-speed Blue Sun's Zenith when you just want to draw a ton of cards if you have the mana to dump into it. Fervent Mastery, on the other hand, is busted. It is often more like a 4 mana triple Entomb than the 4 mana triple Gamble it reads as, but that is totally fine when cards like Unburial Rites [in Mardu] and Dread Return are legal in the format. I've been playing it in RB Keskit/Dargo Aristocrats. I often cast it as a value play to grab [and most likely ditch] some combination of Bloodghast, Nether Traitor, Bloodsoaked Champion, Skyclave Shade, Squee, and Reassembling Skeleton. But on top of approximating Buried Alive, it can also grab the reanimation spells you need to leverage the card into a win - essentially making it a 1-card combo as long as you've got the board state to Dread Return back Pitiless Plunderer plus a free sacrifice outlet to go infinite with Dargo on the spot - but it only costs $0.25 or less compared to Buried Alive's $3. I get that it's a little specific which decks want it, but I've liked it more than Diabolic Intent/Gamble/Demonic Tutor in that RB Aristocrats list, and that's a pretty insane set of cards to out-perform.

I'm forever grateful that Tomer introduced me to Insight. I love Rhystic Studies but it's always a pain to ask people to "Pay the One." Insight is great and only takes advantage of a meta if there's a lot of Green. Otherwise the non-Green players just don't pay mind to it.

@kobisjeruk

3 жыл бұрын

What Insight?

@VRanger100

3 жыл бұрын

@@kobisjeruk It was the last card featured on Tomer's 5 Blue EDH Hidden Gems Under $5 (kzread.info/dash/bejne/oa2Gw6tqfZyTl8Y.html). It's a 2U Enchantment that reads "Whenever an opponent casts a green spell, draw a card."

@kingfuzzy2

3 жыл бұрын

Auto include in all of my blue enchantress decks.

@johnmack6218

3 жыл бұрын

Just bought a Spreading Plague for my Vito spellsliger deck

I love Soothsaying! It's a great card in my Aminatou top-deck matters deck.

@psychozen7169

3 жыл бұрын

I love soothsaying In my fateseal decks. I use it get gas and curve while using other cards to hose my opponents. Nothing quite feels so good everyone playing nothing because scared of a counter.

@kingfuzzy2

3 жыл бұрын

It's good in decks like Zhou Yu chief commander that need a finisher or a land drop fast.

@TaskMaster5

2 жыл бұрын

It's also great if you have a way to shuffle fairly easily. I've had ways to do so while abusing Sooth and Scroll Rack to stack my draws for Scroll Rack by digging deep with Sooth, rearrange, swap cards with Scroll Rack then shuffle away the duds

@Twistedgamer

Жыл бұрын

Soothsaying is sweet, they kept hyper focusing on the shuffle. the X ability is sweet.

Search of Glory was an instant include for my mono white deck since it has a lot of good legendary targets. But it's very much based on your deck and if you include a lot of legends, snow, or saga cards

Loved this episode! Congrats on a great idea for a podcast.

I really like the Deflecting Swat/Bolt Bend style cards, for being able to hit abilities. In my playgroup, it's more consistently abilities blowing up or stealing key pieces than removal spells do.

Manascape refractor is my underrated gem. You want two Cabal coffers? Two maze of ith? Two Gaea's cradle? It's amazing.

Trading post is a house. People play crappy Planeswalkers all the time, but this is a Planeswalker you can't attack.

@regaleagle6533

3 жыл бұрын

Lol you’d have to try pretty hard to find a planeswalker that bad

@DylanHunter64

3 жыл бұрын

@@regaleagle6533 It's legit better than a lot of Planeswalkers in EDH because it isn't going to die immediately. All of its abilities are something you'd see on an ok Planeswalker, but you don't get tricked into thinking they'll ever last long enough to ultimate.

@regaleagle6533

3 жыл бұрын

@@DylanHunter64 all the planeswalkers I use do more without ultimate. Discarding cards saccing creatures and artifacts are not negligible costs especially in the same deck.

@DylanHunter64

3 жыл бұрын

@@regaleagle6533 In most artifact decks, those 'costs' are upside. Like sacking spine of Ish Sah to get it back to hand. Or discarding a card to reanimate or sacking a creature with a death trigger.

@regaleagle6533

3 жыл бұрын

@@DylanHunter64 if my deck likes to discard cards there’s other cards I’d rather be using to do that and I don’t want to sac artifacts. Like some decks like to do 1 of 3 things but not all of them and not for that much mana.

I think a vote for the redirection spells, is that they're GREAT in mono red. I guess not everyone plays mono red but if you do, they're basically counterspells, they're great interaction where red falls short normally

Search for Glory is great! I use it in my Golos Historic tribal deck,and use it to go for anything I need, for example: legendary sorceries, Zacama, Samut, Mikokoro, Ugin pw, Nissa, Showdown of the skalds... you name it.

Had the same reaction has Seth to Richard's birds 4:09. That's such a Richard thing to say. Disclaimer, I love Dowsing dagger too and run it in many of my decks!

this episode's alternative title is "the gang reveals their favorite jank cards" love the hot takes!

Personally, I am more likely to run a copy instant/sorcery in red than a redirect. I found it useful in the deck itself with enough instants and sorceries that have a high impact such as Price of Progress or Mana Geyser. If the card lets you copy any spell instead of just your own, it can also be Explosive Vegetation, Counterspell and more depending on what the table is playing.

I love Search for Glory and I love that Tomer included it in his list. It's been one of the first cards I've included in white decks since Kaldheim came out.

This was one of the most enjoyable mess i have seen thanks to you all.

What wasnt brought up on the benefits of dowsing dagger is that for you not to ramp by 3 on turn 3/4, it would mean your 3 opponents need to each have a good blocker available. Thats actually asking a lot from your opponents, they all have to have creatures theyd be willing to throw under the bus just to deny one player ramp that doesnt even permanently stop the ramp from happening.

This needs a part 2! I agree with Richard. Dowsing Dagger is great, but sadly (like I think all the flip cards from Ixalan) creeping up. Here is hoping it will see a reprint in the Inestrad commander decks.

Bolt Bend has been forever one of my favorite cards ever since I redirected an Aetherflux Reservoir back at the user's face to kill them. It really can two for one people or make for a hilarious turn around. It is also useful in voltron decks as a counter spell that can also be removal. It is a bit narrow, but I dont think its as narrow as they're making it out to be here.

Spreading Plague is going directly into my Carth Planeswalker Tribal deck now. Thank you Crim.

@BandofBronanas

3 жыл бұрын

Daaaang. I just built one and you’re right. This is perfect!

Kenrith's Transformation is one less mana than beast within and a cantrip, it's a pretty good card. Also, it's played in mono green decks in CEDH (I get that this discussion is about regular EDH).

@Awesomesausages

3 жыл бұрын

Beast Within is also an instant that can target non-creatures, such as a Land that adds three mana :) That one extra Mana adds a lot of power to Beast Within. Kenrith's is particularly great against Commanders though and especially in mono-green, these sorts of effects are really strong.

@regaleagle6533

3 жыл бұрын

@@Awesomesausages drawing a card isn’t irrelevant though

Soothsaying is a very good card in my opinion in a Simic Tribal Deck that wants to play cards from the top of your Library. So f.e. if the Great Henge is out and you got a Realmwalker that f.e. is in a Simic Elf Deck, you can manipulate the top Two cards, the one creature you then play with the Realmwalker to get the Henge trigger to draw you the second card.

Crim chose a Kamigawa card. *There goes my hero.* That card fills from "Any" damage you control. Not just combat damage, I don't think folks were recognizing that given all the combat examples.

@regaleagle6533

3 жыл бұрын

Noncombat damage tends to cost even more mana on top of an already way too much mana investment though

@simonbitterschnief3697

3 жыл бұрын

@@regaleagle6533 Blood Artist Type effects though

@regaleagle6533

3 жыл бұрын

@@simonbitterschnief3697 right stuff like blood artist doesn’t count life loss being a common noncombat way for black to do damage.

I love Soothsaying in my Sliver deck because when I First Sliver out with Cascade, you can pay X and look at the top of library to the order you choice. It's like card selection for using the Cascade ability.

OOOHHHH YEA!! Trading post! That card has saved me so many times in my kozilek EDH deck

I can see night dealings as a interesting card in burn decks since it specifically say "whenever a source you control deals dmg," so even with cards that burns everyone 1 dmg, and lets say you've dealt up to 6 dmg in one full rotation or something, you can find something with cmc 6 or less granted you still have the mana during your opponent's turn or when it's your turn again.

@regaleagle6533

3 жыл бұрын

Does that make it good?

After you play it, Trading Post is a 4-mode, 1-mana repeatable charm on a stick. People always praise modality so highly when evaluating charms, but this is a charm _every turn._ It’s fairly weak, but it’s 1 mana and a small additional cost to get an effect. Cheaper than any charm or command. And that’s base level. If you can lower the activation cost and/or untap it, the value goes way up. So underrated.

The thing you missed with Search for Glory: it gets walkers! Get something for targeted removal or wrath’s then board like Kaya or Ugin! It’s so good I think it’s being slept on.

I totally agree with crim on wrong turn. it stops someone who is going to draw tons of cards of Jhoira, weatherlight captain if you wrong turn after the first cast trigger, same with sythis. Especially because once these go off, they would have the mana to recast their commander if I destroyed it. It allows to get another life by gifting away the voltron creature if the owner decides to swing at you. I love wrong turn. Also in my charix voltron deck it serves as a creature removal, since usually the one who gets attacked dies via commander dmg. the gifted away creature will then be taken out of the game if the owner loses. so much utility in this one card.

I think Bolt Bend is significantly underrated in decks that don't have blue. Its great protection against targeted removal and counterspells (often an issue when playing big beaters) and lets you use opponents cards to remove other people's problematic things. You can also use it offensively to disrupt opponents (ex: change the target of a reanimate, eternal witness, etc.). I'm sure there are good abilities to hit as well. Plays great in my Gishath, Sun's Avatar deck, for example.

For Crim, Spreading Plague is fantastic and I've been playing it for a while and agree it does so much heavy lifting. Nice Avenger of Zendikar, they all kill each other. Oh you want to play a 5c commander? Hope you like your board dying when you cast it. Another card you should look into that has a similar effect on board states is Death Match. Almost always when I play that card, it means creatures are illegal and players take turns killing anything they can. I often pair it with control decks featuring Tevesh Szat or other decks that make tokens or generally just have big creatures (or hexproof like Lasav) so that my things don't die as easily or they don't matter as much but you can constantly kill other people's creatures.

Trading Post is incredible with Treasure Vault, especially in Brudiclad. I have used it to loop the Vault and just STACK treasures, turning them into 8/8 Krakens or 3/4 flying gargoyles. It’s a house!

Props to Crim for shouting out Night Dealings! I love it in my Mogis deck. Pretty sure it would go well in Belbe as well.

I might have to look into spreading plague for my Maze's End/Thousand year mill storm deck!

I just love this crew for podcasts! I just wish they could be a little longer for a bi-weekly schedule

I run trading post to help go infinite in my combo deck with dross scorpion and other untap effects/sac effects/ and general artifact shenanigans. Lemme tell you it feels really good to have yet another combo piece to get back a nim retriever or junk diver or another sac engine to pair with dross scorpion and nim death mantle. It's super underrated in that kind of slot as it's a jack of all combo pieces.

I have a sisay shrines deck and sanctum of all (a legendary card) is my secret commander, so search for glory is A+ in that deck. I run captain sisay too for extra shrine tutors so search for glory in a shrines deck is the chefs kiss!

Dowsing Dagger should probably be in an absolute fuckton of decks. If I ever got back into magic and found a commander group I'd have that card in almost every deck with how solid it is.

@thatepicwizardguy

3 жыл бұрын

also dreamstone hedron is a shitty less fun coveted jewel lol

I don't understand why people don't like Crim, he's great... He also gets the best reactions: Tomer: You're a monster!

Bolt Bend was an absolute powerhouse in my Rakdos, Lord of Riots demon/ big dumb creatures tribal deck. But it makes sense, people were just hoarding removal to get rid of Rakdos before I could cast something big.

The thing about soothsaying is you dont have to spend all your mana into it. Its a great sink when your playing a deck lime crims or any deck that leaves up mana on the regular (which most players should) and if nothing happens on the end step before your turn you can pump 2-4 mana into getting the best draw you can. Plus its a one mana investment from the start. A solid card.

I Love Dowsing Dagger! Primal Amulet too! Search for Glory could grab an Urza's Saga? Also, we might get a good edh Saga sometime in the future.

It's really funny that Seth likes Trading Post, which lets you cash in artifacts, but doesn't like Coveted Jewel, which is a perfect artifact to cash in.

Dowsing Dagger is a slam pick for any 3drop commander without a tap ability. Depending on your creature meta or if you’re comfortable without countermagic, it’s really easy to curve out.

I think redirect effects are greatly underestimated. There have been many times when I could mess up or stop a game ending combo. Wild ricochet is probably the best one next to deflecting swat.

There's this one time when I used Bolt Bend to redirect an Araumi activation to some crappy creature instead of Sphinx of the Second Sun, that's when I was sold on the card!

The answer for Search for Glory is Avacyn, Angel of Hope, elspeth sun's champion, or ECD.

@markm1944

3 жыл бұрын

Elesh Norn

@Nolsie

3 жыл бұрын

@@markm1944 yeah, or Ugin.. I feel like the card can fetch almost all the best silver bullets in the format

Oooo I’ve never seen that spreading plague before. What a cool card!

I've found in decks that want E Wit, I'm down to run Sidewinder right along side it. It's extra good if having deathtouch synergizes with your commander as well. Neyith for example wants Sidewinder over E Wit in most cases.

Search for Glory is most definitely a Mono White Staple. Criminally Underplayed. Many important pieces just happens to be legendary as well!

Land destruction is great. Keeps the game a bit more balanced and takes up slots that would have otherwise been solitaire combo cards.

Search for Glory grabs legendary lands. There are a ton of good ones and some of them are on the RL (Volrath's Stronghold, Gaea's Cradle, Serra's Sanctum, Hall of Heliod's Generosity, Academy Ruins, etc.). It's strong for sure.

I loved this episode, because it mostly wasn't about generically good cards that everybody should be running, but was more what things people value that other people don't. Like, Crim obviously likes holding up mana so he needs mana sinks, Seth wants to draw cards at any cost but has no faith in politicking, Richard doesn't like spot removal. And that's one of the coolest things in magic, the fact that people weight downsides of cards differently. It makes games more interesting and keeps a lot of my favorite cards cheap.

@ajespers426

3 жыл бұрын

Like, I love Vivien's Arkbow, but I'm pretty sure none of the crew would ever run it. It's good in my decks because I run a ton of situational cards so I need to filter, I usually have reanimation effects to get back the discarded cards later, I run creature versions of ramp or removal whenever possible, and I'd rather have a card on the battlefield than in my hand. (I'm too cheap for Finale of Devastation/Green Sun's)

About tutoring multiple times, what do you think of Wild Research? Tutor any instant or enchantment (and possibly discard it to it's random effect) for only 2 mana! And it's only at 2% of decks in edhrec, too!

I've never heard of Soothsaying before, definitely going in my Yuriko deck!

In Aminatou, you can flicker the Coveted Jewel to draw six cards and get all six of your mana back. If someone takes it from you, you can fliicker it back to your board even if you can't get through with damage.

Keep in mind, you cant draw 3 again of dreamstone unless you have trading post and 7 spare mana 😁 love the fact that if you have a way to get it back by attacking regulary, its very strong

big thing for search for glory for me is that it grabs ANY planeswalker. For most decks I'd imagine there's at least one planeswalker that's just a massive bomb at any point: freyalise, elspeth, chandra are so impactful that if you're at 9 being able to find and cast one can be a huge tempo swing. For tutoring equipments there are definitely better equipment tutors BUT! in non-equipment decks having something that can go find a sword of F&I or sword of the animist AS WELL AS an elspeth conquers death or anything legendary gives a huge number of targets. it doesn't jam in every deck but there are a lot of decks, way more than I think many would initially realize, where it has a ton of perfectly viable options even if it isn't a perfect tutor.

@ms.sysbit5511

3 жыл бұрын

It doesn't grab most good equipment. It can grab: Hammer of Nazahn, Blackblade Reforged, Shadowspear, Sword of the Animist, and Kaldra (x4). But it misses a lot of them you'd want. I think it needs building around it to be good but it certainly can be very effective in a color that struggles to tutor for anything but auras/equipment.

I bough some daggers a while back because I saw Richard do so well with it

Night Dealings does not need creatures to hit opponents. Any damage from your sources can add counters, like Earthquake or Syr Konrad.

@cinco_de_la_tarde

3 жыл бұрын

I've seen it in budget Mogis decks too since he generally does 2-6 damage around the table and then can be used to tutor other enchantment slug pieces.

Classic Trading Post + Mindslaver combo. Love it.

Night Dealings seems like way too much of an investment. However it doesn't actually specify a creature source or combat damage. I think the best place for it would be a direct damage/burn grixis deck where you can get a bunch of counters through a cheap burn spell or some pingers and then at instant speed tutor up a counterspell if you need it, or if you don't tutor up more cards that give repeated burn for more counters on Night Dealing.

Wrong turn seems pretty fun, i would like this for my gain control deck just to spice it up, spreading plague for giggles in a 5c indestructable gods deck would be gross and dreamstone archive is cool in alot of decks but would be best in a deck where you know youre gonna be recasting your commander alot- along with all the stone cards tbh.

and Night dealings is going right into Syr Konrad. Thank you Crim!

Search for Glory can grab Faceless Haven or Book of Exalted Deeds.

My most underrated card is Frontier Siege. the turn you play it you get 2 mana back, then every turn after that you get 4 extra mana. insane, its cheap to buy, too

This list was great nice video ^.^

Seth had to order secret lair: Sexy Boss to get the Richard without the glasses art.