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That blue dial is gorgeous

Orient is not only taking over Seiko's place in the market, but their Quality Control seems to be more consistent. I would be afraid to buy a Seiko today without seeing it in person before I pay.

@lawcane

2 жыл бұрын

This guy says he's afraid.

@aaronslaton9733

2 жыл бұрын

Come on now. I would take a Seiko Prospex Padi over this any day.

@aaronslaton9733

2 жыл бұрын

Orient is still awesome

@lawcane

2 жыл бұрын

@@aaronslaton9733 that guy is trying to be edgy and just repeating the same Seiko chapter ring nonsense

I recently purchased the burgundy/wine color orient and I love it. I agree with having drilled lugs. I changed my metal strap with a red leather and it looks amazing! I really enjoy your videos!

I own a Kamasu. If there is a difference between it and these, other than the color, I will be very surprised. I think my Kamasu cost somewhere around $200.

@eespinosa64

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. I also own a Kamasu. The red diver in this video looks too much like a Kamasu for me to consider.

@micksumo

2 жыл бұрын

Same here... don't see any difference

@daneedler

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, got my Red Kamasu just before Xmas 2021 for $189. Great value

@jnto2603

2 жыл бұрын

i think this one is slightly larger but its basically an oversized kamasu

@propblast82nd

2 жыл бұрын

I actually like the standard model better.

I recently ordered the Limited Edition / received 314 of 2800 New Old Stock. ($299 eBay) Upgraded the bracelet to Jubilee from Strapcode. Very very beautiful combination. I get compliments all the time on this watch. LOVE Orient designs and history.

Bought a Ray II back in the day and have since graduated to a Triton (Neptune) & love it. Daily wear for the last two years. I don't think you can look past orient in the price bracket that the brand occupies.

Just snatched the Red Version for around 270 bucks. It MAY be the only one in my country judging by the fact that I only found it on one website and after placing the order it went out of stock. Can’t wait to see what number I get.

Based on their size and dial, these are pretty much a Ray II but in different colors.

@derekwalter4238

2 жыл бұрын

More like a kamasu since it's got the sapphire crystal, just with more of a sub-like dial

@wheeldog5555

2 жыл бұрын

@@derekwalter4238 No, It's a RayII With a sapphire crystal for twice the price

@derekwalter4238

2 жыл бұрын

@@wheeldog5555 No, it's a kamasu with a retro dial!

@AboraPearl

2 жыл бұрын

It's a Rayasu 😂

The quality of your new camera is amazing! Nice video!

One suggestion for the website. Please make a sorting option available which shows all the watches that are still available (not sold out). Thank you :)

Both are stunning watches with adorable dial colors. Good job Orient.

im a big Orient fan, sarted modding with um. And yes...needs drilled lugs and solid end links too...

Nice clocks 👌 thanks for review

I recently bought the Limited edition and like it a lot!

I brought this gem yesturday...next level watch it is loving it

Did you notice defects in the indicies? The lume on mine isn’t full and has some dots.

These are pretty good by themselves but once you put these on a strapcode bracelet it makes it as good as just about any microbrand diver, certainly better value than most Seikos. Definitely order an orient diver on the rubber and add a strapcode bracelet.

@Mike-In-O-Town

2 жыл бұрын

I 100% agree Strapcode bracelets are terrific, but they almost cost as much as my Orient Kamasu did. Hard to justify in my mind spending that sort of coin on a $200+ watch.

I got the Pepsi one. It’s like the mako and and the kamasu came together to make the perfect watch. This blows seiko out of the water

Hey do u think the red could be a daily marital? Looking after my first automatic I really love the color but afraid it might not be so versatile

Love seeing more blue gilt style watches from the factory these days!

From my personal experience to date Orient is great value for the quality in what they offer in many of their sport watches. One of the only negatives I could add about these new releases along with their other releases of this same style last year is lack of any AR coating on sapphire. Most may not notice but some will if you already have a watch with it on lens. It's definitely not a deal breaker for a watch that can be worn daily and still do some work... not referring to only office work. Step up getting sapphire compared to others with mineral crystal.

I'm an Orient fan and I like both of these. I have not compared the specs, so help me out here. Aren't these really Kamasus in new colors? If so - that is still a great watch. If not - how different are they???

I'm perfectly fine with Orient filling Seikos former space. They've been solid and consistent for years and although my only Orient is the champagne dial Bambino, I'd be willing to dabble with a diver. But honestly the last thing I need is another damn dive watch 😆 🤣

That looks exactly like a Kamasu- with round hour indices. I like it.

That LE color is sexy. Had no idea it was LE and bought my first mechanical watch 😁

Limited edition or not, I really dig the blue, black and gold combo. Very tasteful. I wonder if a higher beat movement is in the cards for the future? Great video as always, Jory. 👌🏻

Can anyone tell about the durability of the gold color, I am confused about whether to buy the green or the special edition one.

Wish they removed the faux patina for better lume. I want to see a comparision between the Christopher Ward Aquitaine and the Oris Aquis 39.5, thinking of buying my first and only expensive diver.

Arent these just like 2 new variants of the Kamasu II/Mako III? I've also seen it called Kamasu vintage in some places. Its basically the same as the original Kamasu but with round inddescese.

I'm not a big fan of diver watches, but these two models are attractively designed-and very competitively priced.

Can you do a review on the new orient star 1964 diver second gen?

Nice looking watches unfortunately the kamasu is somewhat undersized for my 7.5 inch wrist

I just said earlier orient has been consistently bringing us way cooler stuff should. I’m trying super hard not to flood my collection with orient watches!

Both look like the Orient Kamasu. Btw a watch I own and adore.

Did you upgrade your camera? It looks like 8k

I own one of the yellow makos.. if i remember the made them for the 10 years aniversary.. ? 90 pcs. made only.. if my records are correct..

This week is my slaying week, I guess...I loved my Ray Raven II and am sorry I gave it to the person I did, but gifts are gifts. HOWEVER, given the movement and such of these two "limited edition" watches, the pricing kinda puts me off. I love burgundy enough to ride a 2007 motorcycle whose paint was natively burgundy...twice. I prefer the blue in this case. I'm glad I checked out Orient's website and found both in the heavily, but normally, discounted price of around $315...at that price, maybe.

Hah, for that coin, get a Phoibos Narwhal or Kraken. Both are 300m dive watches, and both are powered by a Miyota 9015 hi-beat 28,800 bph, and huge lume. Granted, they don't have a day complication, however the other specs are more than Orient is currently offering. If Orient were to start offering hi-beat movements I would definitely give them some more love.

I got the newer tealish kamasu for $300

Nice colors

I dig the colors on the Tlimited edition one. Somehow it reminds me of Batman animated series

@thetimeteller

2 жыл бұрын

Dude! Yes!!

The Orient Defender II is the best Japanese automatic for the money.

That thing looks like my Casio Duro....but it is Beautiful 😍

How different is this than kamasu limited edition ?

You should check out the king turtle/samurai

Kamasu is my daily wear, it’s glorious

I don’t see the faux patina on the red one

I love the variety of timepieces by Orient. It is confounding that they can produce nice timepieces at such a low cost. One hang up for me is the mineral crystal. I wore my orient contemporary dress watch at work one day and scraped the edge of the flat crystal on a piece of machinery. I was honeymooning the piece when I first got it and just had to wear it 24/7..... You know the feeling. I left work and brought it to a repairman to install a sapphire crystal. I never wear that watch to work now! Lessons learned. Looking into the orient diver with sapphire crystal for my son as a gift as he becomes a daddy this fall.

I like that burgundy color scheme, a lot. I also like that gold-tone bezel edge, a lot. Hopefully they retain both design elements in other models going forward. And yeah, let’s ease off on the “limited edition” stuff, feels out of place with Orient.

I lost interest in Seiko for their ridiculous prices and still have QC issues.

If I didn't already own a Seiko Save the Ocean blue diver, I would consider the blue Orient in this video.

Sounds and looks almost exactly like my mako usa 2. Love the red colors but……

They are not owned by seiko I had a talk with a representative he said they are completely separate entities

@thetimeteller

2 жыл бұрын

They are owned by Seiko Epson Corporation… exactly what I said in this ep. I’m literally sponsored by Orient. 🤣

@eltonteo1785

Жыл бұрын

Agree. Seiko Epson is different from Seiko. They are 2 completely different companies.

I wish it were gold and green sunburst

If this didn’t have a pressed clasp, if this didn’t have hollow end links, if this really was a true diver’s watch rather than a dive style (not iso ) then maybe it would be worth it. I wouldn’t look past a King Turtle which can be picked up new for less than $500 at the moment.

Why is this more than the kamasu? Bracelet quality??

Hmmm, a 'limited edition', of a mass produced watch. Huh? I have and frequently wear my Gen 1 Red Kamasu so I obviously have no issue with Orient, but this 'limited' stuff is silly. And my Kamasu didn't cost me $450 and I got essentially the same watch as these. As you noted, Orient needs to focus on being Orient and throw off the temptation to play Seiko.

I really wish orient would put ar on the crystals

i actually prefer the production one

I own the blue/green gradient dial non limited edition gen 2 kamasu. I don't mind the patina lume. Most of my watches are either vintage or vintage inspired. In my opinion this kind of fills the void for the SKX. It's very similar feeling on the wrist and in size and in many ways its better. Better components, better looking in my opinion, better movement, better bezel action, lume is just as bright because i think its using seikos lume. The SKX did have a better factory bracelet. The factory Orient bracelet is garbage and you need to buy the strapcode bracelet . I paid about 350ish for the watch and bracelet. The strapcode jubilee looks dope on this watch. I own watches from high end, mid tier, and affordable. It's a solid piece. Im using it as my beater/adventure watch and its been great so far. I know it's literally pure dumb luck but mine is running literally +1 to -1 second a day. My only gripe was when the watch was new the crown threads were very rough and unscrewing and screwing down the crown did not feel smooth. It has smoothed out since I've been wearing it. Must of been a burr or something on the crown threads.

Limited edition? Looks down at Zelos Swordfish Ti limited to 500 pieces

@thetimeteller

2 жыл бұрын

Orient is ENORMOUS compared to Zelos. Sub-3,000 units is actually incredibly small for a $440 Watch.

That two tone blue would be even better with a two tone bracelet. But that just may be me. I still think Seiko makes some decent budget watches but Orient makes budget tool watches. These are true divers and will sell at well below the retail price. Great values.

Get the Invicta or Biden watch. I have them and they look very similar to the Rolex watches. Plus I have Tommy Hilfiger and Kenneth Cole Plus Bulova and Casio Versace

I simply love Orient and especially Orient Star. These two, while referenced as Vintage Diver are actually the Kamasu Generation II. The red was also released as a limited edition on a leather strap with bronze coloured coating. Definitely cover off some Orient Star

Orient has now also been infected with the Seiko's Limited Edition bug, smh

The issue with Orient is that they don’t make smaller whatches

@terrywiseman5268

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure if this is jokes. But none of their watch is big. They need to make osd level watches again

@McMaxW

2 жыл бұрын

@@terrywiseman5268 read carefully

I own the orient kano, looks better in my opinion than these two watches and has the same automatic movement f69..it sells in uk for around £140 to £150 maybe just under $200.only difference is mineral crystal. So why pay over 200 dollars more for saphire?

Orient watches are very good. However, I think they also play it safe too much and do not have many original dials. These are supposed to be Kamasu 2's and they have a Rolex Submariner vibe to them. The new Orient Tritons look similar but are lower in price and, in my view, better than the Kamasu's. Orient should come out with more watches with unique dial designs. This, in my view, is why Seiko has decided to hike their prices since they're going to make watches with more unique designs. A prime example are the Seiko Samurais.

Orient is owned by Epson. Seiko is its own corporation. Both are in the Seiko group completely independent of each other.

2800 orients are hardly limited 😂

I have to say I love the brown/red(ish?) dial on a non-faux bronze model. I've got the OG red Kamasu and it is so beautiful I wouldn't consider this one (especially since I love my chocolate/bronze Glycine). I'd be curious to see the blue up against the Seiko SRPF81K1 comparing the blue and gold (also they're really close in price).

Should have made it no bigger than a 40mm.

The Kamasu has exactly the same specs and is a 150 dollars cheaper.

Watch your back Seiko Tuna

@bodegaboylex

2 жыл бұрын

I messaged that number and received no answer

Orient has them listed on their website for much less than the $475 price tag. Brings it back down to regular kamasu territory in terms of pricing

@mazda_miata_

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they’re listing the blue dial for $315 and red dial for $295, which is an insane deal for that watch that it is

Blue or red one? What does everyone think?

Habe die rote Variante für 168€ geschossen. Black Friday 2023.

that's some weird marketing

Do these watches hold their value?

@thetimeteller

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, it’s a sub-$500 item.

The spec isn’t the same one is gold plated

All of the crowns 2 small...I own one and it's 2 small..harder to push in and lock down compared to my other diver watches

It doesn’t say anything about it being a “limited edition” on their website?

@RickyNumberFive

2 жыл бұрын

It does, scroll Down and it says clearly " Day, Date, Luminous Hour Markers And Hands, Limited Edition To 2800 Pieces Worldwide".

@pjob123

2 жыл бұрын

@@RickyNumberFive You are correct! Thank you!

No secret I'm an Orient fan. IHHO they make better watches than Seiko. You can find examples of this up to the $1500 price range.

My only issue with Orient is their logo.

I just saw the burgundy one on eBay for $301 seller in UK. I thout it was a knock off of the limited edition fake bronze one that came out a few months ago. I like the color of the fake bronze, but it's fake, pass. This one looks stupid with the brushed steel on burgundy.

Aren't these just kamasu watches?

@sebadelcanto8752

2 жыл бұрын

+1

Why did they put an effing Day complication!!!

Buy an Orient Blue Ray II for less than $200, pop a gold bezel with blue ceramic insert, voila! Limited edition smh

Sooo, a more expensive Kamasu…

Get a invicta or Biden watches. They look like Rolex watches

$500 for a Mako with sapphire? Hard pass.

OK I’m glad I came back you are entertaining it was me not you please forgive me

But why does every brand want to have a Rolex look alike. Come up with your own shit. They make a fake GMT and the call it “homage”… come on bro.

If Orient starts acting like Seiko. They will be another brand I stop buying. Sadly, the preowned Seiko market has gone the same way as the new Seiko market. If they wasnt to be exclusive and high end prices, I will jsut admore them on other people’s wrists.s

I see my orient Ray II there 😂😂😂 I am not interesting to buy those watch

What I'll be saying here may be controversial to the watch community and is open to further discussion. I strongly believe that the earth's sustainability agenda should not only be the burden of big players such as Renewable Energy and EV car industries, but that the watch industry can make a huge contribution to greening the planet and lowering its carbon footprint by CEASING the production and sale of battery powered quartz watches. Instead, it should promote heavily the sale of solar / kinetic / mechanical / spring drive movement watches. Similarly, social media influencers can play a significant role by encouraging it's user base to move towards these watch movements instead of promoting quartz watches, no matter how tempting they are in the price point and luxury designs. I say this because the watch industry has a mature technology on these movements especially solar powered watches which can be mass produced to lower the cost further, unlike say the EV car industry currently. Secondly, using battery powered quartz watches requires replacement within 2 years, unlike solar powered batteries which can last up to 2 decades. Ceasing the production of new battery powered watches will significantly reduce landfills in the future unless an effective technology already exists to recycle ALL used batteries completely. Also, batteries used in quartz watches for the short term is akin to using coal to generate energy and carbon fuel for cars. Lastly, it's already bad enough to replace the billions of existing batteries in legacy quartz watches, so let's hope the watch industry will not burden the earth further with new releases of quartz watches! Personally, I haven't been purchasing new quartz watches and am slowly phasing out the use of my legacy quartz watch collections, i.e. I don't replace the batteries in dead quartz watches any more but instead use them as exhibition showpiece purely for their artistic design and aesthetics. Besides, quartz watches are not as fun to wear as alternative movements due to their lack of user interaction which gives a watch a "soul", I digress. Any comments?

Why I would recommend a dive watch as the perfect field watch: 1. Bezel can be used as a timer chronograph, a compass and gmt dual time indicator. 2. Higher water resistance than a traditional field watch, indicating higher robustness 3. Better lume and legibility than a traditional field watch

@lawcane

2 жыл бұрын

How can bezel be a gmt

@christophergan71

2 жыл бұрын

@@lawcane Google for KZread videos ;-)

@lawcane

2 жыл бұрын

@@christophergan71 without me googling, I assume you assign the 60 a 12, the 30 a 6 and so on. And so that's dual time. But not GMT time

@christophergan71

2 жыл бұрын

@@lawcane but bezel cam tell dual time like the Explorer II gmt doesn't it? :-p

@lawcane

2 жыл бұрын

@@christophergan71 dual time and GMT time aren't the same thing.

Globally lmao. Its flat. Love your vids though.

Idk if I agree with you about orient taking Seiko's spot. Theoretically yes. But literally, no. It’s still the entry level king. I bought a Seiko SNK recently for under $100 retail and brand new (received March 1st, 2020) and it really sparked my interest in the hobby as a whole.... got into watch making, modding, strap making…that was a result of 5th of the price of this Orient…so, sorry but I do not agree. Don’t get outa touch now, my dude

@jayv9619

2 жыл бұрын

$500 is not entry level