Will this be a game changer for OTA TV, not sure what do you think?

@BrianHaskell78

3 жыл бұрын

I've heard that the stations that are broadcasting on ATSC 3.0 are just broadcasting their HD content, not anything that takes advantage of the new signal. Once they have 4K HDR content on the air, it will definitely be a game changer. Very few (if any) of the cable providers (and other package TV services) have any 4K content.

@BrokenSignal

3 жыл бұрын

@@BrianHaskell78 With the popularity of streaming and now ATSC 3.0, I think this is the end of traditional cable. Once more people see how much cheaper streaming is over cable they will flee cable services. For example, our local cable provider charges $145/mo for service and you cant get same channels from youtube/fubo/hulu for around $50/mo.

@BrianHaskell78

3 жыл бұрын

@@BrokenSignal agreed, I subscribe to KZread TV currently.

@BigRonRN18

3 жыл бұрын

@@BrianHaskell78 The ability for ATSC 3.0 to provide 4k HDR content is only the icing on the cake, it is all the other parts that make it a HUGE game changer. There are many differences between ATSC 3.0 and ATSC 1.0, including the default compression scheme of content. By changing the CODEC from MPEG2 to HEVC (h.265 and bypassing MPEG4/h.264... which is why this is ATSC "3.0" instead of a never implemented "2.0"), a higher quality image takes up significantly less bandwidth, allowing more data to be crammed into the allotted bandwidth of the broadcast. I am not expecting 4K HDR to be very prevalent until after the stations have been broadcasting 3.0 for five years due to an absolutely STUPID requirement of the FCC to mandate that broadcasters maintain both their 1.0 and 3.0 signals until they've been on 3.0 for five years. As the FCC is not allotting more channels to be used, in fact they have been REDUCING the allowed channels, the different broadcasters in a region will have to work out agreements for one station broadcasting 3.0 to provide the other station's content as a sub-channel. Until this stupid five-year rule is met, it will be difficult to receive much 4K or 8K content. Another change is that instead of 8VSB (8-level vestigial sideband modulation), ATSC 3.0 uses COFDM. This difference is HUGE in performance improvements. Not only will it provide for more data bandwidth within the 6MHz radio bandwidth allotted to each channel, but it is far superior in multi-path interference rejection. Back in the old analog days, we would see this multi-path interference as ghosting of the image... you would see a faint image of the same thing you are watching that is off by a few milliseconds. This is due to the radio signals bouncing off buildings or the terrain. As the radio waves travel at essentially the speed of light, your main signal is received, but signal may bounce off other objects and still hit your receiver a fraction of a second later. With the 8VSB modulation, this would just cause havoc. You could have a 100% signal strength but the chaos decreases the signal quality, leading to video cutting out or other errors. Because a better method of weeding out ill-timed data, it allows a multi-site, single-frequency broadcast. This could be beneficial to an area such as where I live. I live in the greater Sacramento area. The majority of television market is made up of the upper San Joaquin Valley and the lower Sacramento Valley area, but it also includes going up into the Sierra Nevada Mountain Range. The major broadcasters broadcast from ~2000-foot tall transmitters in Walnut Grove, CA... in the middle of the valley southwest of the City of Sacramento and northwest of Stockton. This works well for the valley people and those in the mountains that can look down into the valley, but there are many communities in the hills that are in hidden valleys, with ridges between their community and the valley center. The broadcasters can put up a low-power transmitter just for these communities on the same frequency as the main broadcast. Currently, they would have to use a translator on a different frequency to provide a signal to these communities. There are many other advantages beyond this that may not be obvious to the masses, but the masses will benefit.

@BrianHaskell78

3 жыл бұрын

@@BigRonRN18 you are absolutely right and those of us watching and commenting on this video will definitely appreciate all of those advantages, but the advantage Joe will just see 720p and 1080i on there TV and say "I thought NextGen TV was 4k".

I ordered mine, I missed the kick starter, and it should ship by end of month! Thanks for the video, excited to get this working.

@BrokenSignal

3 жыл бұрын

I thought the atsc 3.0 version was only available through the Kickstarter for now? It's an amazing tuner.

@jfbrasch

3 жыл бұрын

@@BrokenSignal It became available a couple days ago. I got my shipping notice this afternoon.

@johnstouchpad6437

3 жыл бұрын

@@jfbrasch how do you like it?

@jfbrasch

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnstouchpad6437 It works well. Denver doesn't have 4k yet, so I haven't been able to test that (later this month). I did have issues connecting it to a NAS Plex server, but moving my Plex server to my HTPC fixed the problems.

I want one when we have ATSC 3 in my area. But that is not going to be for a wile. Hopefully the new tuners are affordable like the original ATSC 1 were in 2009!

@BrokenSignal

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think they will be priced to bad. But I'm sure you have enough dishes to keep you busy till you get ATSC 3 in your area 🤣

@BigRonRN18

3 жыл бұрын

At the time of the analog shutdown, there was a subsidy that allowed people to purchase the ATSC 1.0 tuners for $30. Households could apply for a coupon to purchase certain models for that $30. Without the coupon, the price was a bit more but less than $100 for the same tuner. These tuners would output the content on either a 480P analog video signal or send the video over an RF modulator to analog TV channel 3 or 4. My assumption is that nearly all ATSC 3.0 set-top-box receivers will have an HDMI output, which is infinitely a better signal than the old analog output. It is this belief that I don't see any huge advantage of having an ATSC 3.0 tuner built-in to any television. If you want that new television but it doesn't have a 3.0 tuner, I'd say go for it, as the external tuner will likely be superior to what is built-in anyway. I'm thinking these tuners will be a bit more expensive than those old tuners but it shouldn't be a whole heck of a lot more.

2022 Jan new haven hartford ct market now atsc 3.0 so i had to re order to test out later spring nyc will be activated

Actual the Quarto 4k is exactly the same in appearance as my old Quatro.

I'm not sure if Chicago's got any ATSC 3.0 stations broadcasting yet, but I'm getting this anyway. I need a new HDHomerun since my current one is seriously outdated and limited by only two tuners. Even if there's no 3.0 stations here, the tuners in the Quatro gotta be better than the ones I have now. Plus, I wanna try HDHomerun's DVR. Right now I'm using SageTV and I'm looking to get rid of it soon because it's just too fiddly and it also seems to have been abandoned. I also have NextPVR, but I'm not happy with its conflict handling.

@BrokenSignal

3 жыл бұрын

From what I can tell Chicago is not broadcasting 3.0 yet but is in the list of "First Markets". They were suppose to start broadcasting by the end of 2020 but due to the pandemic it has been delayed to mid 2021. Have a look at PLEX. In my opinion it is the ultimate media server. It is nice having live tv next to my media library.

Needs a built in DVR/add your own hard drive like the Tablo 1.0 tuner. i would get this even though there are no ATSC 3.0 in my area yet.

hey Broken Signal. I have ATSC 3.0 in my market (Pittsburgh PA). You should come up here and Test this here.

@BrokenSignal

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the offer but I think I'll wait for it here haha

Hey friend, thanks for the info. I think I’m buying the Quattro since I’m cutting the chord next week. Any other thought I should consider, or be aware of? Thanks, and I’m a new subscriber too!!

@BrokenSignal

3 жыл бұрын

First, thanks for subscribing! Only considerations I would add is make sure you have a good antenna. You can see what is available and what range antenna you will need at this site: www.tvfool.com/ and as always you can ask questions here. Good luck and congrats on cutting the cord!

I just received my Silicon Dust ATSC 3.0 NextGen TV HDHR5-4K Tuner. I am using it with Android, Apple, Roku and Windows. The setup is accessed with Google Chrome via the IP address and setup menu. Channels are scanned and the Next Gen broadcasts show up with "NG" after the station call sign instead of "HD" for the ATSC 1.0 station. I live in the Phoenix AZ area where there are several stations being broadcast in NG. So far the NG station are not working well. They only stream for a short time with no audio and then freeze up. I have contacted tech support but they have not offered a solution.

@BrokenSignal

3 жыл бұрын

Make sure you update the firmware. There was another firmware release yesterday. If after that you are still having troubles try getting help on the forums, it will be faster then through support. forum.silicondust.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=133

@jonh1035

3 жыл бұрын

@@BrokenSignal Tech support replied quickly and mentioned the latest firmware update. That helped with the a few most of the NG signals. I am pleased and thank you for your reply.

I still am confused, Does one have to have the PC in the same room with the router as the tv? I have a digital antenna. Seattle has converted it system over to New Gen. How does the antenna work with this box?

AWWWWW....YEEEEESSS

@BrokenSignal

3 жыл бұрын

I know right!

I think the Broadcast networks are more concerned with their streaming apps than to invest any time or money into ATSC 3.0

@BrokenSignal

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@mikerupertus2326

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but, people who pay for the streaming apps may help to fund FREE over the air equipment for ATSC 3.0. ??

hello , i have a doubt , if i upgrade to a 3.0 atsc turner i will have a better reception of the 1.0 atsc signal

@BrokenSignal

Жыл бұрын

No. Atsc 1.0 will stay the same.

I want to preorder this, can we not update without a computer? I prefer to use HDHomeRun app on the Xbox and Apple TV 4K, and not install anything on the computer. I’m in Phoenix so this will be a perfect device. Thanks

@BrokenSignal

3 жыл бұрын

You do not have to install the software, you can update the firmware by going to my.hdhomerun.com/ after connecting the tuner to your network.

So, how is the video and audio of this new ATSC 3.0 ? reliable - no buffering or other signal problems ? easily better than 1.0 we've all been watching now for years ?

@BrokenSignal

3 жыл бұрын

I'm still waiting on local stations to start broadcasting ATSC 3.0.

I've heard they are having problems with audio. Something about AC 4. Do you have any information on this?

@BrokenSignal

Жыл бұрын

Some people have reported having an issue depending on which software they where using. I haven't had any issues so I can't comment anymore on it.

@MikeySoft

Жыл бұрын

@@BrokenSignal Thank you. It may be because of the TV or app you are using? Do you have any issuse when you changed channels like a delay is audio?

Does this have to be connected to a computer, or can one just use it as a regular tv box?

@BrokenSignal

Жыл бұрын

You cannot use it as a tv box, it is meant to be connected to the network and only accessible over the network.

Can I set up this device with my smartphone please get back to me

It seems SD decided to rename the product to "HDHomeRun CONNECT 4K HDHR5-4K" and is no longer using the QUATRO designation despite the 4 tunners. Maybe this is a function of there not being a DUO model to differentiate or maybe it's because technically there are only 2 ATSC 3.0 tunners out of the 4 tunners.

@BrokenSignal

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe a little bit of both?

Missing the hardware installation.

@BrokenSignal

2 жыл бұрын

It's pretty straight forward, connect an antenna, ethernet and power.

@danstenis660

2 жыл бұрын

@@BrokenSignal Is there any TV tuner out there that can use WiFi instead of ethernet?

Won't work with Samsung Smart TV's. No Samsung App. How disappointing that is.

@BrokenSignal

3 жыл бұрын

Use the PLEX app, it's better. kzread.info/dash/bejne/k4Vo1LqwlLyZn84.html

Can I set up this device with my smartphone please get back to me