Turning the Table on Atheists: Existence of God is Self-Evidently True | Hamza Tzortzis

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  • @ahmedman8078
    @ahmedman80782 ай бұрын

    This man gonna be on hit list of Europe. Stay safe Paul.

  • @iiddrrii6051

    @iiddrrii6051

    2 ай бұрын

    lol. Most of Europe has strong freedom of religion laws and culture.

  • @Wowyouexist1234

    @Wowyouexist1234

    2 ай бұрын

    @@iiddrrii6051 Hate crimes by people

  • @epona1525

    @epona1525

    2 ай бұрын

    Ask people who leave Islam and talk open about it. What they havef to fear. And they have no place to hide left. While you can go into a muslim country whenever you want. They, and we non-Muslims, just have the western countries.

  • @subhanyushasamore5369

    @subhanyushasamore5369

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@iiddrrii6051 The German government kidnaps children from their parents if the parents refuse to allow sodomites to intoxicate their kids.

  • @iiddrrii6051

    @iiddrrii6051

    2 ай бұрын

    @@subhanyushasamore5369 That's correct. There is no absolute freedom of dress-code in public institutions/places.

  • @essa200911
    @essa2009112 ай бұрын

    May Allah bless Shiekh Hamza

  • @user-fq6hv9xz5j
    @user-fq6hv9xz5j2 ай бұрын

    Paul exchanging ideas like a kindly grandad to humza

  • @Yuki.2022
    @Yuki.20222 ай бұрын

    That may work with educated people but not with normal people who have no clue about basic philosophical concepts .

  • @saracentiano

    @saracentiano

    2 ай бұрын

    Not necessarily. In brute language it just means, you exist so your creator exists. You have a beginning and an end. So your creator must be ever existing and ever lasting.

  • @_Cfocus

    @_Cfocus

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@saracentianobasically logic is the term. Saw some athiests actually deny logic of the brain just to prove god doesnt exist destroying all the basis of science just to deny!

  • @badroboudjerda4394

    @badroboudjerda4394

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@_Cfocus some straight up say" idk if I exist"

  • @_Mo-Ham_

    @_Mo-Ham_

    2 ай бұрын

    @@saracentiano "In brute language it just means, you exist so your creator exists." - But a supposed creator can exist without a creator though. Special pleading, go figure. "You have a beginning and an end. So your creator must be ever existing and ever lasting." - Non-sequitur

  • @_Mo-Ham_

    @_Mo-Ham_

    2 ай бұрын

    @@_Cfocus "basically logic is the term." - Only specious logic will lead you to the existence of some god. Think harder. Think better.

  • @IntelligentInnateness
    @IntelligentInnateness2 ай бұрын

    Great quick vid Paul. Thanks for sharing

  • @samcrawford9556
    @samcrawford95562 ай бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @SimpleReally
    @SimpleReally2 ай бұрын

    I used to like Hamza Tzortzis, especially his early debates, because he was concise and precise. Nowadays it seems to me he read way too much philosophy and has become incredibly tedious to listen to

  • @vortexvampire
    @vortexvampire2 ай бұрын

    بارك الله فيكم... اللهم اغفر لوالدينا و ارحمهما و اجمعنا معهما في الفردوس الأعلى مع الأنبياء و الشهداء و الصالحين و جميع موتى المسلمين.. اللهم احقن دماء المسلمين و انصرهم على من عاداهم.. رب إني مسني الضر و أنت أرحم الراحمين... لا إله إلا أنت سبحانك إني كنت من الظالمين..... .'''''............'' . . .............. . ...............

  • @essa200911
    @essa2009112 ай бұрын

    فليس يصح في الأذهان شيء اذا احتاج النهار الى دليل

  • @wesamzxc

    @wesamzxc

    2 ай бұрын

    "There's nothing right in the minds if daytime needs proof"

  • @sutil5078

    @sutil5078

    2 ай бұрын

    great great line of poetry, ma sha Allah..nice translation wsamzxc, and I translated as a side job for sometimes.

  • @fadial-mufti2338

    @fadial-mufti2338

    2 ай бұрын

    "*في* الأذهان" جزاكم الله خيرًا

  • @JoeMorreale1187
    @JoeMorreale11872 ай бұрын

    Very good clip brother Paul it wouldn’t surprise if you might already have them 😂😂 but if I can recommend the following books ‘ Born believers ‘ , ‘ the return of the God hypotheses ‘ , ‘ undeniable - Douglas Axe and The design inference new 2nd edition

  • @extraordinary.verses
    @extraordinary.verses2 ай бұрын

    When evidence of the unseen is sufficient (Quantity) and appropriate (Quality), proof becomes as firm as seeing the unseen. الثابت بالبرهان كالثابت بالعيان. In the name of Allah, Most Merciful The Merciful: _Or were they created by nothing, or were they the creators [of themselves]?_ - Quran interpretation 52,35

  • @kennethwilliams4371

    @kennethwilliams4371

    2 ай бұрын

    Rather they are unsure.... The greatest most convincing argument ever

  • @CreltonKnowlton

    @CreltonKnowlton

    2 ай бұрын

    BS

  • @khalidhussain8584
    @khalidhussain85842 ай бұрын

    Existence of Allah Subhanat’ala!

  • @essa200911
    @essa2009112 ай бұрын

    When someone asking about evidence of God existence. It is like asking to turn on candle in the morning to point out to the light of the sun The light of the sun is already obvious! We don’t need the light of the candle to make it clear than it is already!

  • @iiddrrii6051

    @iiddrrii6051

    2 ай бұрын

    Enough with the silly allegory and deflecting, just provide evidence.

  • @essa200911

    @essa200911

    2 ай бұрын

    @@iiddrrii6051 Evidence for the evidence of all things 🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @iiddrrii6051

    @iiddrrii6051

    2 ай бұрын

    @@essa200911 At least be honest with what you're asserting. No one is questioning evidence that things simply exist. Be honest about your claim - that a "personal, sentient being" is actively managing the affairs of the natural world. That all the suffering in the world is part of "God's special plan".

  • @essa200911

    @essa200911

    2 ай бұрын

    @@iiddrrii6051 You should be honest with yourself because you already know who we are discussing about if not you should question yourself what makes us differentiate because simply we are created to see the evidence and notice. Being honest with yourself starts with accepting what you already noticing I don’t know what is your criteria of what make whoever exists or not and I don’t know what is your full view on what is the meaning of God’s special plan because there is many things related to this like your view about life and death…etc because you can not judge God plan without first have sold ground to react emotionally All what I can say because I don’t know your answers of all these concerns that everything around us is a sign for a great signified

  • @_Mo-Ham_

    @_Mo-Ham_

    2 ай бұрын

    @@essa200911 Your supposed reasons for thinking that some god exists are so specious it's hard to know where to start. You haven't explained why you think the existence of some god is clear.

  • @Malhanda111
    @Malhanda1112 ай бұрын

    If someone is an atheist, we should welcome him because he has accepted the first part of the Kalama, La Ilaha: There is no God, but you have to do the rest. He basically denied the wrong God,, so your job 🙃is to explain the last part of Kalema shahadat,,, thanks 😇😇

  • @Tinesthia
    @Tinesthia2 ай бұрын

    I define a thing as self evidently true therefor anyone who challenges that has the onus to provide evidence because I am not going to provide evidence because I have begged the question and posited an untestable, unfalsifiable claim. What a jokester.

  • @rogerx1979

    @rogerx1979

    2 ай бұрын

    Yup - it's as clear cut begging the question as you'll ever see. Why he thinks begging the question is "turning the tables" on atheists? I have no idea how he thinks this helps his case for God, let alone Islam.

  • @_Mo-Ham_

    @_Mo-Ham_

    2 ай бұрын

    Theists are, generally, full of crap.

  • @user-ls8zh9dd6g

    @user-ls8zh9dd6g

    2 ай бұрын

    so .... all the creation & the creatures & the intricately interconnected systems within & between them & the entire universe all created itself by nothing & became something of complexity ... ? 😂

  • @user-ls8zh9dd6g

    @user-ls8zh9dd6g

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@_Mo-Ham_ a thinking sort are you .... not...

  • @_Mo-Ham_

    @_Mo-Ham_

    2 ай бұрын

    @@user-ls8zh9dd6g I am. I just gave the excutive summary.

  • @NOONE-sl9mx
    @NOONE-sl9mx2 ай бұрын

    Paul, how about making a reaction video to some interesting video?

  • @BloggingTheology

    @BloggingTheology

    2 ай бұрын

    nice idea!

  • @UmmerFarooq-wx4yo
    @UmmerFarooq-wx4yo2 ай бұрын

    Don't turn the table & draws upside down. We don't even need to pierce theough the draws or the food on the table. Especially as we get older and can't even open draws or chew food. Rather tabligh of the quran and hadith to the people where ever they are. Arguments are great for the youth, but when you get old you can barely see the writing on the board. And that is self evident for all people. And eventually the eyes will close. What remains will be the dhikr that we geared into whatever vessels that remain. And there's no guarantee that we will ever open our eyes for Allah says: Ta Ha 20:125-126 (125) He will say, "My Lord, why have you raised me blind while I was seeing?" (126) [Allāh] will say, "Thus did Our signs come to you, and you forgot them; and thus will you this Day be forgotten."

  • @sutil5078
    @sutil50782 ай бұрын

    Many of the atheists have confirmed my long held suspicion: when they reverted to Islam, they admitted in their stories (on youtube0 that they were not sure about their position but try to appear so, and they stop believing because "the loss of a love ones, an accident, a hardship happened, or desire to sin, living without rules " which was emotional response, really expecting heaven here (in advance) failing to know that life is intended test. May Allah guide us all.

  • @_Mo-Ham_

    @_Mo-Ham_

    2 ай бұрын

    The more I've learnt about Islam the more convinced atheist I have become. I've never heard so much depraved, illogical and flawed nonsense in my life. It's such an utter filthy religion.

  • @KtKo0t
    @KtKo0t2 ай бұрын

    Allahumma barik

  • @mohammedsha1
    @mohammedsha12 ай бұрын

    The strategic time and way Allah sent the Quran in, this temporary test of a life,is a huge evidence in and of itself of Allahs existence and what He wants of us or the purpose of life.

  • @extraordinary.verses
    @extraordinary.verses2 ай бұрын

    What does self evident mean? Two parties came to court. One of them claims he lent money to the other. Both of them did not present evidence that amount to certainty. What will the ruling be? What is the default assumption? The court will rule in favor of the borrower. Why? الأصل براءة الذمة. Does Hamza mean that both Theists and Atheists did not provide conclusive evidence like the example above? If this is what he meant, I disagree. The Quran's intellectual evidence is conclusive.

  • @_Mo-Ham_

    @_Mo-Ham_

    2 ай бұрын

    The supposed existence of some god clearly isn't self-evident or I, for example, would find the existence of some god self evident.

  • @UmmerFarooq-wx4yo

    @UmmerFarooq-wx4yo

    2 ай бұрын

    It is self evident that you are questioning the speaker rather than asking the speaker a question. Allah rebukes such with the following: أَمْ تُرِيدُونَ أَن تَسْـَٔلُوا۟ رَسُولَكُمْ كَمَا سُئِلَ مُوسَىٰ مِن قَبْلُۗ وَمَن يَتَبَدَّلِ ٱلْكُفْرَ بِٱلْإِيمَٰنِ فَقَدْ ضَلَّ سَوَآءَ ٱلسَّبِيلِ Or do you intend to ask your ambassador as newborn was asked before? And whoever exchanges the cover by the secure has certainly lost soundness of the way.

  • @sutil5078

    @sutil5078

    2 ай бұрын

    extraoridnary.Verses, now they mean in absence of evidence, you go by the default knoweldge, it is so obvious that if you throw a bowel over the todler head from behind, the toddler will turn around to see the source (the causer ) so it is built in that we have to b e caused.. everything has a cause, it has to end somewhere, that somewhere is the creator, if not, then we won't be hear because there is no such thing as infinite regress. PS : Mo-Ham you still mocking the dead prophet with your nickname, I showed you the verse where Allah promise the prophet to be sufficient against his mockers.. the more you mock the more chance you get that promise, you won't even know why.. so that you are kept in darkness. "Indeed, We are sufficient for you against the mockers." Quran 15-95

  • @TheRockeyAllen

    @TheRockeyAllen

    2 ай бұрын

    "Self-evident truths" is a defined term. They are talking about the defined terms. For instance, 'we exist', is a self-evident truth. One can reach pure monotheism purely with logic. However, if we want to know the attributes of that God, and if we want to know how we are to carry ourselves, no philosophy or logic can help. Qur'an is the only source.

  • @_Mo-Ham_

    @_Mo-Ham_

    2 ай бұрын

    @@TheRockeyAllen "One can reach pure monotheism purely with logic." - No you can't. Give me this supposed logic and I'll highlighte why it's false. "One can reach pure monotheism purely with logic. However, if we want to know the attributes of that God, and if we want to know how we are to carry ourselves, no philosophy or logic can help. Qur'an is the only source." - Explain how you think that some old book full of errors is "the only source". Your line of reasoning is painfully inadequate in its robustness.

  • @extraordinary.verses
    @extraordinary.verses2 ай бұрын

    Because we are talking atheism, title of the video may need to be tweaked a little bit. The Quran makes clear that the existence of a creator is self evident.

  • @cantrikcaraka8259
    @cantrikcaraka82592 ай бұрын

    "The existence of God is self evidently true." But the way it is explained says something else. Because we have to figure it out whether God exists or not. It is a test.

  • @alisikander

    @alisikander

    2 ай бұрын

    thats exactly the question put forward to one who denies Gods existence... the one who denies is supposed to prove God doesn't exist. if thats the case, go ahead and do it.

  • @dro4462

    @dro4462

    2 ай бұрын

    @@alisikanderThe burden is on the theist, not the non believer.

  • @Mokh_ta7

    @Mokh_ta7

    2 ай бұрын

    @@dro4462 incorrect. The atheists also have a claim that they need to validate. And this claim is the following : ''evidence is the criterion by which truth is determined''. This is a principle and a claim that atheists take for free as true when it is self-refuting and use it upon us muslims to try and convince us that we need to prove the exisstence of God which is total non-sense. Of course a lot of atheists and i would say, based on experience, 95-98% of them blindly believe in what the so-called ''genius'' masters, i.e. scientists say about what they call evidence without actually any verification and then take the principle of the scientific methods and the words of sceintists as true for free and then come to us and try and apply this BS scientism failure on our beliefs and what is self-evident true like the existence of God. Of course the 95-98% of these atheists do not realize that their principle upon which their disblelief is based is self-contradictory. The other 2-5% understand that their principle is erroneous and they also understand that their whole worldview would crumble and crush if they accepted the invalidity of their principle and this is too painful for them to completely change their worldview and lifestyle and this is they keep lying to themselves and keep following their principle eventhough they know it is self-defeating. And this is exactly where the problem is.

  • @_Mo-Ham_

    @_Mo-Ham_

    2 ай бұрын

    @@alisikander "thats exactly the question put forward to one who denies Gods existence." - You deny the existence of all other gods. Can you prove that they don't exist ?

  • @subhanyushasamore5369
    @subhanyushasamore53692 ай бұрын

    In a nutshell, Just like a building is the evidence of existence of a builder, Painting is the evidence of existence of a painter, Similarly creation is the evidence of a creator. But if someone says that building has no creator then the burden to proof is on him to prove that the building was built without a builder.

  • @roddydelipsa1769

    @roddydelipsa1769

    2 ай бұрын

    A tree doesn't have a creator. Or a fish, a planet... apply this logic to the universe an your supernatural creator vanishes.

  • @iiddrrii6051

    @iiddrrii6051

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@roddydelipsa1769 Exactly. This argument is also deceptive because it’s a incorrect analogy. There’s an abundance of evidence that buildings and paintings are made by people - this fact is mundane, banal even. However, the natural world has zero known instances of a supernatural entity, creating a natural thing.. For example, a river is a natural object, and it’s path can be described by physical laws only. It's not "created", it's simply the result of rain and terrain.

  • @iiddrrii6051

    @iiddrrii6051

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@roddydelipsa1769 Another crucial point is that this argument makes the concept of "design" absolutely meaningless If everything is assumed to be designed, then the concept of "design" loses its meaning or distinction. If everything in the natural world is attributed to God's design, including aspects that seem haphazard, chaotic, or without apparent purpose, then the notion of design becomes so broad that it becomes meaningless.

  • @CreltonKnowlton

    @CreltonKnowlton

    2 ай бұрын

    I created God. You have to prove that I didn't create God.

  • @aoteifa

    @aoteifa

    Ай бұрын

    Even if we go with your argument that it had to have had a creator, the proof is still on you to prove that it’s the creator you believe in. Billions of others think it’s a different creator. The proof is not on atheists to prove the 4000 religions out there wrong. The fact that there are that many religions is proof enough.

  • @user-fq6hv9xz5j
    @user-fq6hv9xz5j2 ай бұрын

    We live in a world where atheism is encouraged at the highest level . Trying to make beleive that the bible has been changed . Dont you think that an almighty god will make absoluteley certain that the bible is intact through for all who want to read it. Of course he would. On the day of judgement saying that the bible was changed just wont wash with the almighty. They have simply heardened their hearts through pride. Read the word of god now you are still alive.

  • @HumanRightsEqualityForAll
    @HumanRightsEqualityForAll2 ай бұрын

    If you believe God doesn't exist, what makes you believe that you exist?

  • @_Mo-Ham_

    @_Mo-Ham_

    2 ай бұрын

    I can be objectively observed and measured. Next question.

  • @thinkislamcheckmychannel

    @thinkislamcheckmychannel

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@_Mo-Ham_ no you can't. You have the perception that you have but you can't prove that either. Next objection....

  • @_Mo-Ham_

    @_Mo-Ham_

    2 ай бұрын

    @@thinkislamcheckmychannel "no you can't." - Fail. You clearly can't understand what I have written. I, as any other human, can be beasured, weighed, scanned and registered with all manner of other measuring equipment... as well as be seen, heard, felt by other humans. Your supposed god fails to exist objectively. Try again but this time understand my point.

  • @thinkislamcheckmychannel

    @thinkislamcheckmychannel

    2 ай бұрын

    @@_Mo-Ham_ you clearly failed to understand my post. Try again. Can you prove that those instruments and you actually exist. How would you differentiate your experience from a virtual brain in a simulation?

  • @extraordinary.verses
    @extraordinary.verses2 ай бұрын

    In the name of Allah, Most Merciful The Merciful: _People, listen to this example: Those whom you worship instead of God do not have the power to create even a fly, even though all of them would come together for the task. If the fly was to snatch something from them they would not be able to rescue it from the fly. How feeble are such worshippers and that which they worship._ - Quran interpretation 22,73 The fly design stunned scientists because developing similar biological fly requires advanced technology. Scientists marveled at the fly’s light engines and maneuvering works: They said: "from where did it get this creative concept in the first place?!!" The expectation is that a creator exists because there is big difference between discovery and invention.

  • @alisikander

    @alisikander

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you my friend. The words of Quran are evidence, deep down your soul feeds through it even if you dont believe in it and nothing else can heal its wounds.

  • @extraordinary.verses

    @extraordinary.verses

    2 ай бұрын

    @@alisikander sure.

  • @extraordinary.verses
    @extraordinary.verses2 ай бұрын

    All of the below are conclusive evidence.

  • @abdallaalmidfa7345
    @abdallaalmidfa73452 ай бұрын

    You need to talk about the Anglican Church in UK and USA and how they are the cause of the suffering not only in Palestine but in the whole world in the past and nowadays, and let for now the atheists alone.

  • @_Mo-Ham_

    @_Mo-Ham_

    2 ай бұрын

    Hamad is the cause of suffering in Palestine.

  • @aoteifa
    @aoteifaАй бұрын

    That was a lot said in 2 minutes with nothing to be conveyed.

  • @Julesisunreal
    @Julesisunreal2 ай бұрын

    Well i was waiting for the point where he would actually demonstrate why his concept of god is necessarily true but sadly he didn't, nice attempt to shift the burden of proof but i guess it didn't work.

  • @rogerx1979
    @rogerx19792 ай бұрын

    Saying that God exists is "self-evidently true" isn't turning the table on us. It's a concession that you can't provide us a rationale (external evidence/reasoning) for your position. This strategy is dialectally pointless. And that's the irony. This strategy isn't getting in the ring and taking the fight to me - it's tapping out/throwing in the towel. I guess Hamza is just old and tired of defending Islam with evidence and rationale anymore. He's turned his back on a evidentialist approach and dangerously stepping into Sye-Ten pressupper territory here.

  • @fikarrusdiawan9562

    @fikarrusdiawan9562

    2 ай бұрын

    Isn't that how to do philosophy with proof? 🤔

  • @rogerx1979

    @rogerx1979

    2 ай бұрын

    @@fikarrusdiawan9562 You don't necessarily need proofs. But Hamza asserting that his position doesn't require evidence or argument is akin to discharging himself from the discussion about whether God exists or not. He's conceding he has no evidence to bring to the table he just "believes" it. Good for him I guess. But yes - it's very bad philosophy.

  • @fikarrusdiawan9562

    @fikarrusdiawan9562

    2 ай бұрын

    But, is self-evidently true were irrational? I mean, reality really exists and I don't need to bother getting concrete proofs also coherent reasons.

  • @rogerx1979

    @rogerx1979

    2 ай бұрын

    @@fikarrusdiawan9562 Sure, well I think it depends on how you want to construe on what "irrational" means. I think if a belief/position has no reason/rationale then yes, I consider it to be irrational (without rationale). By saying God/theism requires no rationale is to admit his position/belief that God exists is without rationale - it's irrational. Well, saying reality exists is a tautology to me. "Reality" is what is real/exists. It's akin to saying existence exists. I mean - yeah. It's not "self-evidently true" - it's trivially true.

  • @fikarrusdiawan9562

    @fikarrusdiawan9562

    2 ай бұрын

    So, it's trivially true that the Almighty One is truly existing because of reality are real, yeah? 🤨

  • @ahmaduahmed8760
    @ahmaduahmed87602 ай бұрын

    It is not the eyes that go blind, but the hearts in the chests. I am sorry but in matters concerning God I see the atheists as dump, deaf, and blind. Once a calamity, which they cannot do anything about, befalls them they attempt to pray...OH GOD IF YOU ARE REALLY THERE SAVE ME ..(OR SO AND SO)... The famous atheist prayer. They do turn to God in prayers especially when they see death, or what they cannot in any way control. Many do have doubts in their minds, they have nothing concrete God does not exist. They will not be guided until theyy ask for the guidance, then surely Allah will guide them. We love them and will keep preaching to them and hoping they will be guided. We really love them and feel sad seeing them strayed.

  • @jj-yi1ne

    @jj-yi1ne

    2 ай бұрын

    they are not atheists. they just dont believe in organized religion and think you people are harmful

  • @_Mo-Ham_

    @_Mo-Ham_

    2 ай бұрын

    "I am sorry but in matters concerning God I see the atheists as dump, deaf, and blind." - This is because you can't see outside of your delusional muslim bubble. "Once a calamity, which they cannot do anything about, befalls them they attempt to pray." - Where's your evidence for this ? Furthermore, applealing for external help doesn't force a higher power to exist or even mean that it does exist. "They do turn to God in prayers especially when they see death, or what they cannot in any way control." - Another baseless assertion. "Many do have doubts in their minds, they have nothing concrete God does not exist." - Do you have anything concrete that any other god doesn't exist ? "They will not be guided until theyy ask for the guidance, then surely Allah will guide them." - Guide them ? In what way ? To admire an old man that owned slaves and had sex with a 9 year old and then claim that that is perfect moral behaviour ? To be allowed to have sex slaves ? The depravity of Islam is risible. I imagine that for most atheists, as with me, Islam doesn't meet our standards of decency or humanity. "We really love them and feel sad seeing them strayed." - Don't be sad. Aheism is the way to truth.

  • @UmmerFarooq-wx4yo

    @UmmerFarooq-wx4yo

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@jj-yi1ne we are not polytheists.

  • @UmmerFarooq-wx4yo

    @UmmerFarooq-wx4yo

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@_Mo-Ham_ the arabic word mü'slim & i'slam translates into English through etymology concordance as: 'saviour' & 'salvation' - and by Allah I say the truth. Now marry your women off, stop raping them.

  • @myopenmind527
    @myopenmind5274 күн бұрын

    Hamza 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @gregh4292
    @gregh42922 ай бұрын

    Atheism is simply a belief system like religion. It takes a leap of faith. None of what is being said here supports the existence or otherwise of a divinity. Agnosticism is the best way to logically and rationally approach this, at least for me. I like and admire a belief system that teaches and preaches kindness, compassion, intelligence and communitarianism. Islam and all the other religions aspire to this, as do humanism and secularism. Let God live in our hearts and minds, if we choose to define it as such. Man seems to need religion and or a belief system that transcends our own mere, transient lives. I’m very much on board with that, too. Respect and love to all believers.

  • @goodday512

    @goodday512

    2 ай бұрын

    No. It’s not a belief system. Atheism is a lack of belief. I don’t need faith to not believe in something that hasn’t been shown to be true. That would be like saying I need faith to not believe in unicorns.

  • @kalijasin

    @kalijasin

    2 ай бұрын

    @@goodday512 exactly. Atheists don’t accept anything as true. They are an empty shell.

  • @goodday512

    @goodday512

    2 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@kalijasinlol. I accept plenty of things as true. Just not baseless god claims. But congrats on making a straw man.

  • @KBo-wd7lw
    @KBo-wd7lw2 ай бұрын

    👍👍👍

  • @gitarer8329
    @gitarer83292 ай бұрын

    people who dont understand complicated language will go to hell. is it fair. people who confused will go to hell , is it fair . too many claim too many liar , it makes us confused wy punish us for our the confusion .

  • @thinkislamcheckmychannel

    @thinkislamcheckmychannel

    2 ай бұрын

    There is no need to understand complicated thoughts. There is just the humility to acknowledge the one that gave you everything. Rejecting God needs fancy ideas and logic. And if you have been warned that he'll is the result then don't complain if you persist in the rejection of God. And also the arrogance to snub Good when He offers you eternal bliss. It's your choice. It's very easy.

  • @gitarer8329

    @gitarer8329

    2 ай бұрын

    other people from different religion will also say that, is that mean their religion also true .

  • @user-tt9qw1nb8r
    @user-tt9qw1nb8r2 ай бұрын

    VIGYAN AURAT KO MARD AUR MARD KO AURAT BANA SAKTA HAI ISS BAAT SE ISS BAAT KA PATA CHALTA HAI KI AURAT AUR MARD PERMANENT NAHI HAI AUR ISS BAAT SE ISS BAAT KA BHI PATA CHALTA HAI KI JANNAT AUR JAHANNUM EK JHUTH HAI DHOKA HAI FAREB HAI MAKKARI HAI

  • @user-bo6yo9wy6u

    @user-bo6yo9wy6u

    2 ай бұрын

    keep believing whatever you wanna believe but don't tell the rest of us what to believe. We'll all find out the truth once we depart from this world.

  • @goodday512

    @goodday512

    2 ай бұрын

    @@user-bo6yo9wy6u unless of course if the atheists are right, we won't find out. We won't even be able to process a thought.

  • @aaronharun1394H
    @aaronharun1394H2 ай бұрын

    How do you know I exist? You havent seen me. You havent met me before. My post is evidence of me. My post is not me. I typed in my post. I produced my post. What I produce is evidence of me. creation is evidence of the Creator which He not only creates but also sustains, provides, has Power over. You do not see me but you see evidence of me (my post). We do not see God (our Creator) but we see evidence of Him (His creation) all around us. I had a purpose when I made my post. The purpose of our creation in this limited life in this limited world is with our Creator.

  • @Theo_Skeptomai

    @Theo_Skeptomai

    2 ай бұрын

    What are you asserting has been created?

  • @aaronharun1394H

    @aaronharun1394H

    2 ай бұрын

    A post was posted with a purpose. Our Creator created us with a purpose. This life is a test. With tests, there is a beginning and an end. With tests, there will be judgement. We are tested on our deeds in this temporary life. Our test will end when we die. After we die, there will be judgement, regardless if we believe we will be judged or not. In an established society with established laws, we could get punished if we broke the law. We are accountable for what we do. There are good deeds and there are bad deeds. A good deed is a plus. A bad deed is a minus. Test includes trials: fortune and tribulations. If we are grateful, it is a plus. If we are patient, it is a plus. Rejecting our Creator exist is a huge minus.

  • @Theo_Skeptomai

    @Theo_Skeptomai

    2 ай бұрын

    @aaronharun1394H Are you asserting this 'Creator' _created_ me?

  • @Theo_Skeptomai

    @Theo_Skeptomai

    2 ай бұрын

    @@aaronharun1394H Well, are you?

  • @aaronharun1394H

    @aaronharun1394H

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Theo_Skeptomai .

  • @Tony-gg3nd
    @Tony-gg3nd2 ай бұрын

    Oh my word!! So many words and saying absolutely nothing of importance. It’s an absolute tautology. Secondly, nice try on trying to shift the burden of proof.

  • @UmmerFarooq-wx4yo

    @UmmerFarooq-wx4yo

    2 ай бұрын

    You just proved you do not have functional temporal lobes to comprehend anything said. So we do not even need to shift the burden of proof, hasbi Allah wa ni'eam al wakeel.

  • @Tony-gg3nd

    @Tony-gg3nd

    2 ай бұрын

    @@UmmerFarooq-wx4yo nice try, do you have any evidence of a god and if so which god?

  • @Tony-gg3nd

    @Tony-gg3nd

    2 ай бұрын

    @@UmmerFarooq-wx4yo it’s so sad that a religion can make a person think like this. Instead of ad hominem why not just engage politely?

  • @10zz0

    @10zz0

    2 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@Tony-gg3nd I agree philosophy is stupid but so is atheism. Your here and that’s all the proof you need for a creator as for what is the creator you must read the Quran. Nobody here can convince you if you’re already arguing the point before it’s made. The knowledge in the Quran is something that could not be known 1400 years ago and the prophet Muhammad pbuh miraculously brought about a book that no poet could compete with even though poetry was the Arabs main theme and he was illiterate. For your sake this is like going to a Chinese university and even though you don’t know the language you bring about a book that makes all the professors profess that your book is number one without a doubt in it’s eloquence and sequential wisdom. The proof is there but you have to be willing to look for it and when you see the signs your heart must be open to accept it.

  • @Tony-gg3nd

    @Tony-gg3nd

    2 ай бұрын

    @@10zz0 the reason I’m here is because my parents had sex. How do you know i haven’t already looked for or believed in a god? I see no evidence for a god. If you have evidence then I would love to here it?

  • @janrudnik6870
    @janrudnik68702 ай бұрын

    Allah is the God who Muhammad the prophet flew up to see on Buraq the winged horse !

  • @mdtalhaansari1096
    @mdtalhaansari10962 ай бұрын

    Yes! Anyone arguing against the universal default must be the one to bring evidence. Not all positive claims require evidence. Example - the first principles of maths.

  • @imranmir1
    @imranmir12 ай бұрын

    السلام عليكم Hamza is no doubt very knowledgeable but he needs to explain matter in a simplistic manner. I’ve watched his video and it’s not easy to understand what he says and therefore, I stopped watching him.

  • @blackpearl8574

    @blackpearl8574

    2 ай бұрын

    In my opinion Hamza's problem is his terrible articulation of English language! I must invest effort to not miss what he says, as he swalows parts of the words, or articulates them so badly, unclear and fast that it's a pain to listen to him! Certainly not every native speaker is a guarantee that they will articulate well and clear!

  • @pleaselogic251
    @pleaselogic2512 ай бұрын

    X

  • @mujibultanim
    @mujibultanim2 ай бұрын

    just turn the table by asking what's their proof that there is no god and everything just made up randomly

  • @iiddrrii6051

    @iiddrrii6051

    2 ай бұрын

    Sorry. See Russles teapot

  • @umarrazif7367
    @umarrazif73672 ай бұрын

    in short..atheist needs to prove how this creative and intelligently creation came from non intelligent,non existence,non creative being

  • @Theo_Skeptomai

    @Theo_Skeptomai

    2 ай бұрын

    I haven't any reason to think any creation has ever occurred.

  • @shassarahaman5247
    @shassarahaman52472 ай бұрын

    Are you talking about the existence of the God who forbade fishing on the sabbath to the jews only to entice them with big fish to the shore on the day of sabbath? All the while knowing they'll fall for this temptation so that he'll turn them to apes? The God who divides inheritance for a scenario that exceeds the total wealth available? The God who said the sun sets in a muddy spring when he actually meant to say it appears to a particular person like that?....

  • @aiya5777

    @aiya5777

    2 ай бұрын

    it's mentioned in the Quran that the visible sun as we know it, setting in a murky water photons, light particles that make the sun visible to your eyes do have a completely different state of matter that would allow em to flow like water, that means it makes sense for em to assimilate with the flowing water in a murky water it's called a bose einstein condensate, a completely different state of matter where light would flow like water the Quran is always right, both literally and metaphorically

  • @ahdandimas6577

    @ahdandimas6577

    2 ай бұрын

    if it's hard for you to think about God, think about death, the undeniable truth (even though God existence is undeniable and don't need that much of explanation anyway), . what is there after death? you have two choice, those are: that you will turn into nothingness after death, so everything you think, everything you do, every desire you make effort of in this world is meaningless, your existence is meaningless, in front of nothingness your memory and the memory of you would become nothing eventually, no purpose whatsoever, the second choice is, you'll be held accountable for all of your action in this world, and live after death exist, but because you don't want to believe in God, you'll be thrown into hellfire, forever in despair and eternally experiencing severe punishment. .. that is only two possible outcome, but, none of that is good for people who don't want to believe in God, . either the religion is right or wrong, but after death, there is no going back, . i think what i say is logical and doesn't need that much debate, it's just a matter of a simple choices between two, the religion and God existence is wrong, or it is right based on the undeniable truth that we are all will face, death

  • @goodday512
    @goodday5122 ай бұрын

    What self evidently truth can only unequivocally be explained by a god? If not even one can be provided then his entire premise fails at step 1.

  • @ia1530
    @ia15302 ай бұрын

    One question: Why does this All Mighty of yours need you to tell us speak on his behalf? Or, is it just to keep people like you busy and making money out of mythology? Get real. All the evidence that you provide is at the end a product of your invention. You want to be God’s weak subject of obedience, fine. But in the process you are showing how weak God is for he had to send you on his behalf!

  • @rushi450
    @rushi4502 ай бұрын

    Universe got created when Glorious Dragon sneezed. Now it is YOUR responsibility to prove it wrong.

  • @UmmerFarooq-wx4yo

    @UmmerFarooq-wx4yo

    2 ай бұрын

    A dragon in dream interpretation is a tyrant.

  • @DontOpenThisChannel

    @DontOpenThisChannel

    2 ай бұрын

    How do you know that information? Do you have a book like the Quran and how authentic is the one with whom it was revealed?

  • @rushi450

    @rushi450

    2 ай бұрын

    @@DontOpenThisChannel thats not the point, it is about shiftìng burden of proof! This the summary of this video

  • @chantjelly6773

    @chantjelly6773

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@DontOpenThisChannelhey now, it's self evident that a giant dragon sneezed the universe into existence! Stop asking for evidence!

  • @goodday512

    @goodday512

    2 ай бұрын

    @@DontOpenThisChannel The existence of rainbows are self evidently true that rainbow-votmitting unicorns exist.

  • @suki0venkat
    @suki0venkat2 ай бұрын

    God just rose from the dead as Aaron Bushnell and again died for Palestenians. No one noticed!

  • @farouqbaiti4315
    @farouqbaiti43152 ай бұрын

    At least if you tell an Atheist that there is a God, he will believe in Allah (Islam) or Jesus (Christianity) or Elohim (Judaism).☝🏻 As a Muslim, I am proud to be not an atheist.🙂

  • @goodday512

    @goodday512

    2 ай бұрын

    Um, no, that's not how it works. We don't give those any more credence than we do the Japanese Storm God.

  • @_Mo-Ham_

    @_Mo-Ham_

    2 ай бұрын

    "As a Muslim, I am proud to be not an atheist." - Why, when you get your moral standards from an old man that had sex with a 9 year old. Sounds quite depraved... but then, you'll think that slavery and sex slaves are fine too. Go figure.

  • @Luboang-ix2hn
    @Luboang-ix2hn2 ай бұрын

    God is using atheism to destroy soiled and corrupt dogmas and creeds.

  • @nosuchthing8
    @nosuchthing82 ай бұрын

    The burden of proof is on the person that makes the claim. If I claim my neighbor murdered someone, the authorities want me to prove the claim. I need evidence he did the crime. He doesnt need to he didnt do it. Whats wrong with you?

  • @uthman2281

    @uthman2281

    2 ай бұрын

    There are self evident things do you know that?

  • @lightningxx2213

    @lightningxx2213

    2 ай бұрын

    Let me flip the question. If you find a body of someone stabbed to death, its clearly a murder/crime scene, the question then arises is who did it?

  • @mohameddaahir4

    @mohameddaahir4

    2 ай бұрын

    وليس يصح في الأذهان شيء ** إذا احتاج النهار إلى دليل

  • @someoneIikedyourcomment

    @someoneIikedyourcomment

    2 ай бұрын

    reminds me of Tate' case, guilty by default until proven innocent.

  • @lightningxx2213

    @lightningxx2213

    2 ай бұрын

    And if everything is so measured and precise with barely any planets surrounding us with even a fraction of the conditions found on earth made; ie, no winds, oxygen, water, ozone layer protection, gravity, vegetation and animals etc why is this accident not just reoccurring spontaneously or have something similar to it in our billion year old universe? Atheists are not sure- they would just rather die on disbelief knowing that they could be potentially endangering themselves. 26:205-208: “Then have you seen [O prophet] if we allowed them enjoyment for years? Then there came to them what they were warned of. Would they have benefitted at all from that enjoyment? And we have never destroyed a society without warners.”

  • @Theo_Skeptomai
    @Theo_Skeptomai2 ай бұрын

    The existence of any particular god is NOT self-evident. This is a desperate and pathetic attempt to undermine the fact that your claim that this 'Allah' is a reality is baseless.

  • @fikarrusdiawan9562

    @fikarrusdiawan9562

    2 ай бұрын

    The Almighty One is not part of reality if He-Himself willed this reality to exist! 🤣

  • @Theo_Skeptomai

    @Theo_Skeptomai

    2 ай бұрын

    @fikarrusdiawan9562 I haven't any reason to think this "Almighty One" will reality to exist.

  • @Dr.Paul-Williams
    @Dr.Paul-Williams2 ай бұрын

    PAUL COME BACK TO JESUS THE CLOCK IS TICKING TO BE SAVED 🙏❤⏰

  • @user-ls8zh9dd6g

    @user-ls8zh9dd6g

    2 ай бұрын

    Jesus man god ? did he create you ?

  • @johnhumberstone9674
    @johnhumberstone96742 ай бұрын

    You should be embarrassed supporting this nonsense, simply because it is about the god you believing in.

  • @fikarrusdiawan9562

    @fikarrusdiawan9562

    2 ай бұрын

    Is Paul like that? 😕

  • @johnhumberstone9674

    @johnhumberstone9674

    2 ай бұрын

    @@fikarrusdiawan9562He does the same when he criticises evolution. Nothing but strawmen.

  • @_Mo-Ham_

    @_Mo-Ham_

    2 ай бұрын

    This is generally the approach that Muslims and Christians use: 1 - The answer is "god exists". 2 - What question can we create and then convoluet the answer such that we arrive at 1 ?

  • @fikarrusdiawan9562

    @fikarrusdiawan9562

    2 ай бұрын

    What's more? Some biologists have managed to get proofs from a number of studies that the theory and laws of evolution are worthy of criticism, right?

  • @johnhumberstone9674

    @johnhumberstone9674

    2 ай бұрын

    @@fikarrusdiawan9562All scientific theories are open to criticism, that is how the scientific operates. However, within science, criticism are offered by people who understand what the theory is saying.

  • @chantjelly6773
    @chantjelly67732 ай бұрын

    So this is the straw that theists are grasping at now. They realized that all arguments for God have failed, hence they are trying to convince us that no evidence for God is required at all. I can't stop laughing 🤣

  • @unhingedconnoisseur164

    @unhingedconnoisseur164

    2 ай бұрын

    not really, we DO find the existing arguments strong especially as a cumulative case, e.g contingency, fine tuning, hard problem of consciousness , psychophysical harmony etc.

  • @sephatu6521

    @sephatu6521

    2 ай бұрын

    You don't have excuses now but follow your desires and beliefs of your "god" of randomness and nothingess that is inextricably false 😂

  • @mahaizzat3381

    @mahaizzat3381

    2 ай бұрын

    Save that laugh for the grave when the truth is revealed and there is no going back. Case closed. Gambling with your soul is the most laughable thing ever to be honest. If we are wrong and die, we lose nothing. If you are wrong, loss isn’t descriptive enough…so laugh knowing your soul can depart any minute…laugh 😂😂😂

  • @chantjelly6773

    @chantjelly6773

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@sephatu6521"what is your evidence for God?" "oh uhh.. idk but you atheists follow your desires!!!" Nice to see the muslims arguments haven't changed for 1400 years 🤣

  • @chantjelly6773

    @chantjelly6773

    2 ай бұрын

    @@mahaizzat3381 this applies to you too buddy. If you are wrong about christianity, then you are in trouble as well. This is the problem with these "what if" scenarios when it comes to pascal's wager, you can come up with an infinite number of possibilities. What if God is testing who is gullible enough to believe in Islam? Then I am saved and you are in trouble 🤣

  • @thinkislamcheckmychannel
    @thinkislamcheckmychannel2 ай бұрын

    More importantly, it's their loss if they reject God