The simple fact that this is not an issue in men's sports says a lot.

@davidcallin9800

Жыл бұрын

So true!!

@sib1930

Жыл бұрын

Because men are stronger

@sambrooks7862

Жыл бұрын

Can you imagine the fall out if a female boxer became a man then got seriously hurt or killed in their first bout? Because that's almost certainly what would happen.

@darrellwilliams1714

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@som3839

Жыл бұрын

@@sib1930 obviously, so trans men are stronger no matter how much estrogen they take it’s still unfair

There's not a SINGLE male that cheers when a trans-man competes in a woman's league. Not one. We are with you ladies, this madness needs to end!

@akos5146

Жыл бұрын

Well said 🤗👏👏👏

@coryw3339

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure there's plenty of weirdo lefties that cheer for them.

@11Mz.CarpenterIieshea26

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@khr217

Жыл бұрын

Well said, and cheers for using identity names properly. Transman is a man who believes being a woman.

@vitorfernandes651

Жыл бұрын

Speak for yourself. It’s their problem. Women need to stand up for themselves. We men already stand up for ourselves.

Finally an athlete woman who stands against this insanity, congratulations Amelia 🎉💪🏻🙌🏻

@starquant

9 ай бұрын

There have been thousands of women standing up and calling out this nonsense. They have literally been silenced. In Australia we even had a female MP expelled from Parliament for wanted women to have access to safe places. She was labelled "anti-trans" and a "neo-nazi".. Moria was simply asking that trans women have their own spaces and not take over female spaces and it cost her, her job.

It should be a blanket ban. No trans person can go against a real woman. End of discussion,go against your fellow trans athletes.

@jrodspeaks

Ай бұрын

That still wouldn't be a fair playing field to put trans men and trans women on the same team. It would still be biological men beating biological women. Trans men need their own teams. Trans women need their own teams. Sex based teams. Sincerely, an actual, legitimate transsexual who is not part of the woke "trans" cult.

Where are all the trans male athletes?? What a scam! It’s just unfair.

@Blockhead140

Жыл бұрын

Great point. No trans men winning anything. Lmao

@hawo1054

Жыл бұрын

@@Blockhead140 but see that’s exactly the reason why these males are pushing for competing against women. lol it’s such an easy win for them bc they have the biological advantage and they would loose so badly against their fellow men. stupid.

@badgoogle9938

Жыл бұрын

​@@Blockhead140 no trans men are competing so winning is out of the question.

@abstraqtphilosophy7357

Жыл бұрын

​@@badgoogle9938 hmmm...I wonder why trans men are not competing against biological men in pro sports 😂

@jemmaj2919

Жыл бұрын

​@@badgoogle9938 that's not true, the truth is, they will never get to compete in competitions because they need to demonstrate that they can beat records. As long as they compete against men, they will never get to the level to qualify for such competitions. 13yr old boys beat most athletic women

Womanhood is something that needs to be protected and cherished. It’s not a suit you can just choose to wear one day.

@kdogg6781

Жыл бұрын

same w/ manhood.

@rogerreverence4737

Жыл бұрын

@dad cooks - tell that to trans serena williams and venus williams. The wta has a trans participation policy. The main biased media will not touch this topic - beware!

@crikeymos22

Жыл бұрын

Oh yes. That reminds me of silence of the lambs where he does kill women and wears their skin. Omg it’s now reality.

@sik3xploit

Жыл бұрын

@@crikeymos22 Well trans have been quite violent lately...

@sik3xploit

Жыл бұрын

@@ripcord8781 Elitists have never wanted commonfolk to notice the truth and reality. The woke are so relatable with them, starting off with not altering their views to fit the facts but altering the facts to fit their views.

My female friend was an avid cyclist who rode long Km every day on the road. then introduced her new partner to it so they could ride together. He had never really played a sport before or exercised. After a few rides when he got the hang of it he was already faster than her and recovered better between rides too. A few months later he didn’t even want to ride with her anymore because she was too slow for him and he moved on and found a faster group of men to ride with. So generally yes, it is an unfair advantage.

@anja6548

Жыл бұрын

rude lol

@nati5064

8 ай бұрын

And everyone with common sense would easily agree with that! 🤦‍♀️ All these people must have lost their minds

@KE-yq2eg

2 ай бұрын

I would completely understand why he'd do that if I was the girlfriend LOL

@Samira87333

2 ай бұрын

Lmfaoooooo what a jerk 😅 I can't help but laugh though.

When I was young I played all sports. When I played basketball the coach told me I should find another sport. I was the shortest player on the team and basically I sucked. My feelings weren't hurt. He was right. I tried football and got my ass kicked then decided baseball would be a better choice. I was a pitcher and outfielder for years. Had a lot of fun. Never once thought, hey I'll pretend I'm a girl and compete against girls. I wouldn't be able to live with myself. If these guys can't compete against other men and live with the fact there not that good. Then start a league with a bunch of guys in dresses and see how that works. Leave the woman alone.

@TheMouse-gc9ft

Ай бұрын

Right, if you want to play a sport but you’re bad at it you can just play intramurals, or pickup games. These guys don’t want the fun, they want the awards and recognition.

The problem is that they don’t want their own category, they want to bully & force themselves into the already existing categories.

@donantoine2424

Жыл бұрын

👏

@Alji3dom

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely 💯% correct. I said this to someone the other day online. It's all about I am look at me attention seeking. Like you say its about bullying and forcing this warped ideology on the rest of us. Go be a pig or a caterpillar if it pleases you but do it in your own space. It's madness to us but the puppet master behined it has a bigger agenda behind it. Look into if you will the history of the Assyrian babylonian deity called ishtar. Its bisexual roots are in everything from ancient mother worship to the statue of liberty. I believe you will if you research it find why this is going on today and why this hatred to man and women is going on. Finally... why the governments are endorsing it protecting it and criminalising anyone who speaks out about it.

@mdaddy775

Жыл бұрын

Have you asked them all?

@hollyroxy25

Жыл бұрын

@@mdaddy775 I don’t need to, I’m judging by the endless comments they make on the internet & by things like the treatment of Riley Gains in San Francisco. If they wanted their own categories they wouldn’t harass, scream at, & physically assault a woman for saying just that...

@tonyg490

Жыл бұрын

Yeah ,because they want to win lol. Also they don't want to be recognized as trans. They want to bully society into going along with their delusions.

The fact we’re even having this debate tells you the level of madness to which our society has descended

@teresabyrne855

Жыл бұрын

So true my thoughts

@MG-jh2nl

Жыл бұрын

Imagine the reaction of people a hundred years ago if they could see the future of this society on screen.

@lilpiepie

Жыл бұрын

Western society. This insanity won’t happen in other parts of the world.

@theweetbixkid7702

Жыл бұрын

We’ve become the Weimar

@M.W.H.

Жыл бұрын

​@@lilpiepiethey're trying to spread everywhere to have world wide support and gain traction.

Protect women at all costs

@Tesseract9630

9 ай бұрын

Why

Not capable of menstruation = NOT woman. Period.

I cant believe that society in the west is actually having such a conversation, absolute madness

@tracy6568

Жыл бұрын

🤯 I know right!!! 😡

@MissTarryn

Жыл бұрын

Yep we're living in the damn twilight zone.

@edwardmorford2202

Жыл бұрын

I think it's beyond low....it's just wrong whichever way you want to look at it it's just wrong.

@choice4338

Жыл бұрын

Wow, the madness is real! It's mind boggling.

@Wagonrider89

Жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with having the conversation. The problem is we are having this discussion after taking action.

For a generation who claimes they don't want to be labeled , they sure invented a lot of labels for themselves

@user-pe587ui90

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Exactly.

@LEELOLKH

Жыл бұрын

itself*

@user-jo3st1xs1q

Жыл бұрын

Well said 👏🏼

@anthonysquire1241

11 ай бұрын

Exactly!

I can't believe he is still trying to validate men competing in women's sports. This gentleman is the issue!!

Just because someone is short does not mean they are weak..

This Trans thing is getting completely out of hand now.... Where's all the adults to say "ok stop this nonsense now"🤔

@MrSnead-vp1ll

Жыл бұрын

Us old people are not asked, we are spit on.

@StellaAsh

Жыл бұрын

Those shouting their mouth's off about it are a tiny minority of a tiny miniority - most are inadequate men who are mentally ill misoginists.

@ls-l1518

Жыл бұрын

That's us.

@markfox7764

Жыл бұрын

Don't be ridiculous, Dave. You might offend them.

@theridiculousnicolaus

Жыл бұрын

It’s the adults fault and now they want to force it onto our kids

A trans woman will never have to try and compete while on "her" period. A few years ago there was a female Chinese swimmer who said she didn't do well in a race because her period had started the day before and she was tired. There are so many side effects from a woman's period. Insomnia, nausea, diarrhea, headaches, body aches, cramps, etc. A trans woman will never be negatively impacted during competition due to a period.

@shannonbrown7488

Жыл бұрын

That's just the beginning of the disadvantage!

@helensadeik400

Жыл бұрын

Yes because they will never have one

@roxx8182

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! Including the use of contraceptive pills or other methods, female hormones and even menopause

@len801

Жыл бұрын

@@helensadeik400 But they could IDENTIFY as having one. 🤣

@rowluna6400

20 күн бұрын

As a swimmer training while on my monthly period is STRESSFUL, and HELL. 2 hrs of NONSTOP SWIMMING with the coach screaming and the pressure of not breaking the lane formation. MORE STRESSFUL in actual competition, the added stress of competing with a man is a Nightmare!

This world is going to hell in a hand basket.

Individual assessment will open the door to endless lawsuits. If one person is rejected and the other is accepted, that will be a discrimination case all the way up to CAS. It'll be more chaotic than it is already

As a biological woman, don't expect us to respect your views and beliefs when you can't respect us.

@shailonnoelle7175

Жыл бұрын

You ppl really thought the rainbow ended with gay folk. Yall supported this shit since day one. Guess what. Pedophiles are waiting at the end of the rainbow. Congratulations you sold out your future so you could feel better right now

@ps4games164

Жыл бұрын

So now we are saying "biological woman" instead just "woman"? Are you trying to reach to rainbow mafia members? Because the normal people saying just "woman". Edit: I actually take it back for the sake of argumentation.

@EXPLORADVEN

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely good. I think many non-trans men should have said this earlier to almost all the Feminists & Wokes that as biological men, Feminists & Woke shouldn't expect men to respect their views, when they couldn't respect men's view. Then Feminists & Woke wouldn't have been able to push the world to a zone/phase where we have to discuss this, where some biological men who had feminine tendencies clearly decided that they can beat biological women in their own game and transitioned for that.

@letom.359

Жыл бұрын

hahahaahaha

@lonewolf4429

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't help when you call yourself a "biological woman." You are a woman.

I dated a division one athlete in college - she was one of the strongest on her team and was quite fast. I hadn't been exercising nor was ever considered an exceptional athlete in high school - yet my warm-up bench, squat far exceeded her max and when we would do runs I would easily outpace her. I never once diminished her abilities, just realized, there's a vast difference between the sexes.

@Belltuck

Жыл бұрын

Same story. My friend was very fit, she played tennis and ran. Her new boyfriend did neither but after a few weeks he won every match and race.

@jondoc7525

Жыл бұрын

It’s the varbies that get the deeper voices that make it close . I have seen them here lol for the deep voice Adam’s apple and all that hair .

@jimmydigital

Жыл бұрын

see, this is the part of the argument where people are shovelling in a lot of chauvinism - the belief that being male, any male, is a birthright of superiority when the reality is that plenty of women can beat men in sports. Even if a man dedicates his life to a sport. Pakistan's pole vaulting record for example is lower than the women's world record. the average Indian man is smaller than the average Latvian woman.

@Chalk89

Жыл бұрын

@@jimmydigital It's not chauvinism - it's highlighting the sizable differences between the sexes. I never once said, 'all men can trump women in sports.' My point, and the point others are hoping will land - is men shouldn't be allowed to overtake women's athletics. I have a daughter - she shouldn't have opportunities stripped from her because a guy wants to be a woman.

@tonyg490

Жыл бұрын

@jimmydigital we are born physically superior, thats just reality. I was a semi fast kid, not fast enough for the track team by any means though. My cousin, same age, was the fastest female at her school. We raced, I beat her. Mediocre males will dominate high skilled women the majority of the time. Just because there are some females who are exceptions, doesn't change the rule.

I feel so sorry that people’s minds are that distorted from reality and the way we’re are addressing it is cutting off body parts and going along with LIES to not hurt feelings.

I can’t believe Piers is even considering this conversation in any way. The man will always come out on top in sports. Why don’t you take away the WNBA and see what happens to the women athletes. You would never see another woman on the floor because they would be getting smashed every single day. If you take the best men against the best women in any sport , other than target practice with a gun or something like that there will never be a woman’s team that beats a man’s team. The best man against the best women wouldn’t even be close. That’s definitely not a knock on women. I’m trying to stand behind these women who have worked their whole lives to become the best athlete they can just to have it all taken away by cheating bullies. It just doesn’t seem fair or seem right to me. Maybe create some sort of a trans league. When was the last time you saw a trans woman get into men’s sports? I can’t think of any example. It’s always the man who didn’t perform the way that they pleased when they were going up against other men who decided to take advantage of women, and they always end up doing better when they’re playing against the women. But if you combine men and women’s sports, you would hardly see any women athletes ever playing professionally in any sport IF ever I’d be willing to say you probably wouldn’t find any Serena Williams and Venus Williams played a man who was ranked in the hundreds or higher. I don’t know if it was on the same day but they got their butts kicked 6-0 6-1 and 6-0 6-0. I believe in Texas, a high school soccer team played the US women’s championship team the Olympic team and the US women’s team got absolutely destroyed playing against 14 and 15 year-old boys There are so many more examples And this is feminism today? It is so ass backwards, and I have three daughters, and this just makes me sick to my stomach.

There is no phobia in this its just normal reaction to injustice.

@kirklewis3627

Жыл бұрын

They will find a way to label it a phobia

@MrVpassenheim

Жыл бұрын

injustice is the word

@tedbenveniste412

Жыл бұрын

It is transphobic

@kirklewis3627

Жыл бұрын

@@tedbenveniste412 😂🤣😂🤣 🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣

@bukibakk6984

Жыл бұрын

@@tedbenveniste412 Get him boys!

*Trans athlete:* "But when we bleed, we all bleed the same blood." *Society:* _"Yes, just not from your minge, Dave."_

@anenglishmanplusamerican7107

Жыл бұрын

Most underrated, right there.

@Rotavegas1

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@jm5995

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 classic

@dominicsmith4747

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@keepgoing7533

Жыл бұрын

Va jayjay

Totally agree with this,

I love how you speak truth. No bullshit just truth. I love when you use examples such as ok I am going to be a animal then lol you are great and I adore you and will keep supporting you

As a student who has read medicine. It's not only about the testosterone. It's about the muscle fibers which vary , the lung capacity, drawbacks of estrogen, foot span, bone density and shape , fat deposition, the growth of course, I could go on and on . This just proves we need a blanket ban for trans people competing in women sports. Why don't people get it. There are tran athletes who participate with women and also in the disabled category for women. It's just unfair. It's like using a gun in a sword fight. This community doesn't listen at all , I think that's why the freedom given to them is been withdrawn one step at a time. USA should get a grip on the LGBT situation before it sets a bad example for other countries ( LGBT community suppressing other for their rights)

@skunkie110

Жыл бұрын

Trans people are not in touch with reality... most of them anyway. They are some of the most delusional people I’ve ever heard, and it’s just crazy we’re to go along with their delusions, or else we’re considered “transphobic.” Is it really “transphobic” or is it just being in touch with reality? And having common sense?

@2009jadeorchid

Жыл бұрын

women vary a lot with lung capacity the ones not pear shaped have more lung capacity

@ReenieG1UK

Жыл бұрын

Other countries are watching and America is one of the worst examples of TQIA++ gone mad, particularly when it comes to children…Ugandas new legislation was certainly influenced by the USA mess…

@seenit09

Жыл бұрын

Biological females have slower reaction times than biological males. Individual assessment over.

@kdburner7356

Жыл бұрын

@@2009jadeorchid woah you mean to say there’s exceptions? That’s mind blowing, have you told others about your theory?

What is astounding is that this problematic occurs only in one category, womens sport. There are no trans athletes going into mens sports !!!! How come is this never mentioned ? What is absolutely clear is that WOMENS spoort has to be protected and saved !!!

@LadyLeomon

Жыл бұрын

Eh give it time, before long a trans man will compete against athletes who were born men, get thrashed, cry “I should get a handicap”, win cos of that handicap then proclaim “I won cos I’m a real man!” 😒😒😒

@joannasliwa8147

Жыл бұрын

I completely agree and therefore 2 new categories should have been created : for trans women and trans men before all the Lia-Thomas polemic

@NecessaryDramaAddictionNDA

Жыл бұрын

There was a trans man swimmer who was competing in the same pool as the women and lia Thomas. The trans man was able to do that because she didn’t take testosterone. She knows she’d have no chance even suppressing oestrogen and upping testosterone.

@PoloABD

Жыл бұрын

Yes, women suck at sports 😅

@piranhaplantfansixninefour4104

Жыл бұрын

It really isn't astounding. The reason they are getting annoyed about transgender women playing alongside biological women is that on average a person born male performs better in sports so a biological male playing alongside biological females would be unfair. This is not the case the other way around because biological females joining biological males in sports don't have a major advantage. If you ask me, trans people should have to have proof of hormone treatment before entering their genders sports so the competition will be fair.

actually a pretty good debate..its a complicated issue and the more people talk it out the further we will get

@MichaelSheffield-ox8yd

Жыл бұрын

All the way to utter confusion. The science is settled.

@bethr8756

11 ай бұрын

It's not complicated at all. Men are on men's teams. Women compete on women's teams. And u can't change your sex. What's complicated?

@jonathanbracher768

6 ай бұрын

its not at all complicated, keep the men out of womans space, it's really that simple.

Who would have ever thought people would be debating this

My heart breaks for all of these women who made breaking records in their sports, only now to be broken by an individual who is not of equal level in competition means. Records that have been held for years, only to ruin in a quick moment.

@givmi_more_w9251

Жыл бұрын

One little silver lining ... recently, a male weightlifting coach broke a female record held by a tranny. Which caused said tranny to crumble into a pile of salt. Very satisfying to see. The coach did it to make a statement, of course. He simply showed that a bearded pile of muscle like him can just declare himself a woman and compete.

@somerandomchannel382

Жыл бұрын

Honesty. Im glad this happens. It was absolutely needed some change, and finally change will come.

@mELONHEAD1899

Жыл бұрын

Still the women’s record. They will forever be known as a “trans women”, regardless

@bambilackner

Жыл бұрын

Those male records need to be stripped and wiped out. How do they expect real women to beat that.

@ericziegler4271

Жыл бұрын

​@@somerandomchannel382 this isn't the change we need. Trans women need to make their own category or don't compete

My argument to the "there aren't that many trans athletes" is if they are so minimal then why are we changing the entire system to accommodate such a few people at the detriment to way many more.

@len801

Жыл бұрын

Shhhh! Stop it! You're making sense and that MUST be racist or trans-phobic or something. 🤣🤣🤣

@DailyCorvid

Жыл бұрын

There are not that many trans athletes. That's the problem they are attacking. They say 13 in the space of 5 years isn't a lot, I beg to differ... 5 years ago we had ZERO 4 years ago we had 3 1 year ago we had 6 Now we have 13 and each one of them has two apprentices so it's actually a growth rate of 6-9 new per year plus the original count of 13+growth(5 X 1.13) = in ten years time 100-150 new trans athletes per yeer. That's almost a whole school of trans athletes per year. BLANKET BAN IT NOW.

When he said "or they just very good athlete" 8:03 I'm scared that female physical sports competition will never be the same. Ever.

I honestly don’t think trans rights should infringe on women’s rights. It’s misogynistic to force women into women’s protected spaces. Trans rights are NOT my fault!

To the transgender community: Don’t expect me to accept your opinions and truth when you can’t accept my opinion nor truth respectfully. ♥️ And please don’t expect me to learn and use all these new terms, definitions, and pronouns. I’ve learned as much as I need to learn over my lifetime of education. Thank you in advance

@jlove8445

Жыл бұрын

I have dated a transgender female by accident. Don’t apologize. If you want real trauma go on a date with (what in college they refer to as) a “lumberjack” and see which one of you two comes out traumatized. I couldn’t eat for 3 weeks. The phone rings and you think the spirits are comin for ya. It was a nightmare

@jlove8445

Жыл бұрын

Very honest and respectful comment, thank you. It can be traumatizing, don’t even apologize. As I mentioned I dated one by accident.

@fentyfentyhash9675

Жыл бұрын

Don't be proud of announcing yourself as a close minded drone who's incapable of learning new things. There is plenty of new things worth learning, it's stupid to make a statement like "I've learned as much as I've needed to learn.", never stop learning. Of course none of this gender ideology stuff is worth spending any time on and frankly is stupid AF.

@advay3020

Жыл бұрын

years ago, ppl laughed at us for poor grammar if we used a pronoun apart from he/she lmao

@Ididntaskforahandleyoutube

Жыл бұрын

​@@jlove8445, I'm so sorry, mate. I would have been the same way. Shame on him or her for doing that to you. Cheers

How is this even a debate? Are these people serious?

@aesthete8033

Жыл бұрын

Magical thinking.

@Magerquark

Жыл бұрын

@@aesthete8033 so weird to me. I didn't even know it is such a big topic over there in the US. I wonder how other countries do it?

@ninaevans-lo9nh

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately it has become a debate!

@Gingerblaze

Жыл бұрын

Forced debate.

@NateSpurs

Жыл бұрын

Victimhood culture, thats where all this nonsense stems from.

Shocker the MAN is for letting trans compete and the WOMAN isn’t. 🙄 Some men need to stay in their lane on this

This was so civil. Loved it

It still blows my mind that in 2023 *adults* have these discussions.

@PoMpI_

Жыл бұрын

It's because they're making money out of it think about it!

@johnmacleod6664

Жыл бұрын

It’s not a discussion. It’s another Piers Morgan monologue. F$&@ he loves his voice. Whether you agree with someones opinion or not let them finish their bloody point!

@Laburnus

Жыл бұрын

Thats what you get when you dont teach biology at school. These are really really basic things. Same story with people that think earth is flat... What went wrong in some peoples education....

@juno_the8774

Жыл бұрын

@@Laburnus transgenderism is recognised by biology; maybe it was you who never learnt anything.

@Soph-ts9yb

Жыл бұрын

@@Laburnus some people say they believe the earth is flat in jest, as there is proven doctored photos produced by nasa. So we don’t really know what it does truly look like. And none of us will.

Exactly they always say its TRANSPHOBIC, seems they only have that one word to try and make their case, it utterly ridiculous, thank goodness we have common sense ppl like Piers staying strong in keeping this issue out there, we back you 100% Piers, THANK YOU

Just imagine 'trans woman' joins in women's boxing. How many women with true talent will be murdered?

What a messed up world we live in .. that’s all I can say

@J_a_s_o_n

Жыл бұрын

West and Europe not the whole world

As a man please we welcome all trans athletes to come compete with us.

@TheLeedsleedsleeds

Жыл бұрын

As they are really clits 🤣🤣

@Scorpio-tn4vy

Жыл бұрын

They'd be too embarrassed soon as the event started..

@gr33nm4n7

Жыл бұрын

@cazformby5705

Жыл бұрын

That's because trans men are at a disadvantage from the start for the exact same reasons that trans women are advantaged Physiologically.

@Tigra59

Жыл бұрын

Yep..trans women lease join your real sex

Either I'm going mad or the world's going mad...😢😮

"Women are so much more than testosterone" Best line in this vid!

@Christian-xt1up

Жыл бұрын

100%

@ZER0--

Жыл бұрын

Yep. I've said that many times.

@bukibakk6984

Жыл бұрын

Yes. They have No idea about the implications of what they are saying.

@claudianreyn4529

Жыл бұрын

One other example: Creatine. Men store 17% more Creatine per body mass as women! Read about Creatine! It makes you so much more powerful.

A pause until more investigation and proper policy etc is definitely good. Imagine the issues faced if you don't wait, and you have a whole bunch of records set by the equivalent of other Lia Thomas trans athletes. What becomes of those records? Would they have to rescind them if policy changes? Caveat them in future record books? Try to get the medals back? Lol would be embarassing for everyone involved.

Be free to be who you want and identify as what you choose, just don't insist people think the same and make allowances for it.

@joeblack1126

Жыл бұрын

Yes Trannies have been around forever they just did their own thing some people had a problem with mostly all religions not just Christian's but most off us didn't care and don't care now only when they demand yes demand full compliance with their I want, I must have, and it must be or else.

@vladim73

Жыл бұрын

Of course gay/trans people should have the same rights as everyone else, but they don't get extra rights," Carson said at the time. "They don't get to redefine marriage." They take advantage of "political correctness."

@letom.359

Жыл бұрын

indeed

You have the "RIGHT" to live in any DeIuslon you choose You "Do Not" have the right to force others to live in said DeIuslon

First principle that "sport has to be fair" and later as an example mentioning Michael Phelps :D hysterical :D :D :D

I don t even understand why their should be a debate

Creating a separate category is the only way to go to be fair.

@kellypat125

Жыл бұрын

But do you advocate for this at the Olympics or World Championships level? It would be SO much easier to go to the Olympics and get medal in a trans category due to a lack of competitors and depth of talent among them. Or maybe hold a separate trans Olympics like paralympics. They would not like that, though, and it likely wouldn't get attention or airtime.

@SomeKata

Жыл бұрын

@@kellypat125 "Give them their own league, they're cheaters!!!" "they're the only one in their league! They cheated!" so you just don't want them to exist, got it. You think they won't have talent? I thought the argument was they were smashing women!? the wishwashy arguments to serve everyone's own paradigm is exactly what they are. Only 17% of transwomen even play sports at this point, you've been such dickheads about it almost none of them even want to play anymore and you're still crying your eyes out it's insane. literally none of the transwomen can even relate to your rage, they don't gat dum play any damned sports wtfd!? who even told you these people play sports!? the TV MAN? LOOOOOOL. 46% of females play sports, 67% of men play sports, and even 63% of transmen play sports, 17% of transwomen play sports, and you will NOT STFU OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! On behalf of all transwomen, just kill the ones playing sports, literally none of the rest of us GIVE A FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.

@RatedRKalluSt4r

Жыл бұрын

​@Tab Ford trans and dsd people are biologically different from the two

@michael-nb1bd

Жыл бұрын

Imagine how raunchy the opening ceremony at the Trans Olympics would be.

@Christian-xt1up

Жыл бұрын

@@michael-nb1bd with all unnecessary escapades that do nothing but undermine the mental issues

Seeing that DUDE towering over those poor women on the podium is pure disgrace, smiling as if he achieved anything...

@ronnie4796

Жыл бұрын

I agree 100% Laughable 😂

Rules are a general norm, you can't do an individual assesment for everything, that is not how the world works. That is why, in sports in particular, are divisions-classes to make it as fair as possible. And even then there's always someone bigger or stronger than the rest of their division but those are the exception, you can't based a rule - which is by default intended for everybody - on exceptions.

No individual assessments! That’s ridiculous 😂

Why is this even a discussion this world is done for smh

@Zdub212

Жыл бұрын

10000000000%

@WilliamLucas-of2gx

Жыл бұрын

Any excuse for beautiful wutiful Tatchy-Watchy imo. Beautiful in green ngl

@JamieReynolds89

Жыл бұрын

too many freaks everywhere these days. only gonna get worse.

@deshawn53988

Жыл бұрын

It’s good to have the discussion. That’s how you learn and evolve.

@nimbusxd91

Жыл бұрын

@@deshawn53988 discussion of having men in women sports that is batshit crazy

Isn't this the man who spoke about a 9 year old having sex with a grown man and said it was consensual and not up to him to judge?

@basengelblik5199

Жыл бұрын

Who, which one?

@MegaFraner

Жыл бұрын

@@basengelblik5199 Tatchel ha campaigned for years to have the age of consent lowered, he's a nonce.

So assess every athlete who might have an unfair advantage!! Make it more sense!!

Peter Tatchell will never ever ever ever agree. He's too far gone into the whole ideology.

@janysmahoney1271

Ай бұрын

Thatchall don't even pass as a true man so what does he know about anything apart from always trying t get airtime. Saw him on the Pro-palestian March the other day etc so he's everywhere where there's media involvement.

Peter Tatchell also says that 'not all sexual encounters between minors and adults are wrong"....I'm nit sure his opinion should count...we know where he wants this to go....

I’m really tired of people saying it may take years of data with them competing to see if there is an unfair advantage. Yeah, at the expense of women. So hundreds of women have to lose out on scholarships and rightful placement before we can say.. “Oh okay, yeah, it’s unfair..sorry to all the women who were affected” We have to wait a few years, when all trans women are at the top of the leaderboards and all the records are set by them, to say.. “You know what, this isn’t fair” When I say this is misogyny in sheep’s clothing in plain sight. Some trans women only care about trans women.. not biological women. There’s a sense of entitlement and “give me what I want and that’s all that matters”

@origami83

Жыл бұрын

all trans women should be removed from the leaderboards. We have to hit the reset button on this insanity.

@ankavoskuilen1725

Жыл бұрын

All the information is already out there.

@mcnzefili

Жыл бұрын

the irony is there's no such thing as trans; it's simply gender dysmorphia.

@notaclue822

Жыл бұрын

Everybody knows they aren't women because if they really were women, nobody would care how they felt. I don't know how so many decision makers went along with this.

I don't get the case-to-case basis. Reason being is that the case-to-case logic is that the person can only join if the person is assessed to be at a disadvantage. But doesn't a person join a competition to win? (the person definitely wants to have as much advantage as possible). Why would the person enter the competition if he/she is at a disadvantage? Also, why would a team get the person if he/she is a disadvantage? A team will always try and get someone that has an advantage.

There are people that suggest that Serena Williams is the best tennis player to ever play the game. They must have forgotten about the exhibition match she played against a male that wasn't even in the top 100. She lost in a very convincing manner. She has even said she has no desire to compete against men.

@richcampbell6808

Жыл бұрын

Serena was born male. 100% fooled the world.

@tenniskinsella7768

Жыл бұрын

Lee Marshall best women player

@LMarshall73

Жыл бұрын

@@tenniskinsella7768 Quite possibly, but there are those in the media (and activists) that insist she is the best ever, period.

@YD-uq5fi

Жыл бұрын

She would rank about 500 among men, when she was at her peak. John McEnroe said as much.

@danshotguns4226

Жыл бұрын

And the fact that she herself came out and said that if she faced Andy murray she would probably get beat in straight sets and he's not as legendary of a tennis player as she is... If we didn't have women's sports she wouldn't even exist.. As it is she is one of the best tennis players of all time because she competed in women's tennis.

The fact that this is even a conversation is absolutely insane. Where are all the REAL feminists. Stand the heck heck up for REAL women geese!!!!

@naathnaath6377

11 ай бұрын

There's no such thing as a feminist. Doesn't exist.

0:22 Yes, this man, in my opinion is a huge embarrassment for my country. totally failed and made us a laughing stock. I have no idea HOW this man actually qualified for the olympics.

Why did he have that fiddler on?

Tachel knows full well that post pubescent 'trans' competing against women is insane and certainly not 'fair'

@ae-ribae6426

Жыл бұрын

Yes, and he always mentions this 'trans woman ' friend of his that plays in the women's football team, and is somehow the smallest?! Why doesn't he name this 'friend', who is obviously 'out' enough to be playing for a women's team! Otherwise, it's just another gaslighting bs claim.

@redrag6949

Жыл бұрын

Whats wrong with this Thatchell dude ! Is he gay ?

@a.m928

Жыл бұрын

​@@ae-ribae6426 not really in this debate and others everybody brings anecdotes of their friends. Both sides do this. His suggestion of individualised judgement is bad and comes with a lot of issues. Such as determining whether somebody is suitable.

@besthear3284

Жыл бұрын

Tachel has been accused for making supportive statements for paedophilic sexual encounters between children and adults. Just Google his name and paedophiles and see where that rabbit hole takes you.

@joanofarc708

Жыл бұрын

He's a deviant

No one ever mentions the Q angle, women's hips are wider, leading to a major difference in running gait, swimming propulsion, leg strength... The lower Q angle of males makes all those things more efficient / stronger for them. Women's leg design (specifically hip to knee) makes them more prone to knee and hip injuries also. There is no way in hell men should be trying to play in women's sports.

@Shaolin91z

Жыл бұрын

Yes they should. Trans women are women. 🤭

@AdamSpenceVC

Жыл бұрын

The issue is even more simple. No need to talk about testosterone levels, Q angles, etc. Biological men are men and biological women are women. It's so obvious even a small child can tell you.

@bessmay5353

Жыл бұрын

@@Shaolin91z nope never! No drugs, surgeries or make up makes a trans women anything but a trans women.

@jaijai5250

Жыл бұрын

@@Shaolin91z NO, they’re not women. When trans people are self identifying, they’re forgetting that identity is also about how one is perceived by others (society). A trans woman is a biological male. The definition, and experiences of male/man needs to be broadened to include them. Trans women have absolutely nothing to do with women and girls.

@jennag3226

Жыл бұрын

​@@bessmay5353 That shoalin dude is trolling😂

In the Boxing there are 2 categories 'Heavy weight' and 'feather weight' to make the fight FAIR.

In the US. The women are very quiet except for one woman and a transwoman advocating for women sports protection.! WHY??

Like you said Piers just create an extra category for trans athletes to compete against trans athletes. What's wrong with that? Then they can compete, they get recognition, not exclusion.

@potterj09

Жыл бұрын

completely agree there. Problem is they don't want to be a third category and will get upset that they can't just be whatever they think they're allowed to be.

@ConnieWobbles

Жыл бұрын

Unless it's separated by sex then women will still be at risk of serious injury, along with the fact all the men will win within a trans category.

@DemanaJaire

Жыл бұрын

There's at least a few reasons why that's a bad idea. 1. Almost no one would watch it. Even know women's sport is not popular and for that reason woman athletes earn significantly less than man athletes. 2. There are two sexes. There is no third sex. If anything, there should be a category for only women, and a category for other people. Trans "women" are men and should compete with other men. Trans "men" are women who take an unhealthy amount of testosterone, and therefore they shouldn't be allowed to compete with women, and therefore welcomed in the "other people" category. 3. Trans rights activists would not be satisfied anyway. Their narrative is "trans women are women", not "trans women are trans women", and as long as we do not allow these men into women-only spaces, they won't stop, and therefore finding a common ground is pointless. The discussion is fruitless and we should stop being apologetic.

@inessabanovic8491

Жыл бұрын

No one would watch it probably :D

@iiTzKaran_YT

Жыл бұрын

@@potterj09 bruh this world needs a god

Isn't this the guy that said a 9yo boy can consent to a sexual relationship with a man??

@its_rick_james_bich2575

Жыл бұрын

Really? I’ll have to look that up!

@its_rick_james_bich2575

Жыл бұрын

And I looked it up!! Wow what absolute creep!! Why is it so many of these trans activists are sexual deviants and child groomers!

@andrewdudson7750

Жыл бұрын

Yes he did and he supports maps

@its_rick_james_bich2575

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewdudson7750 maps?

@patrickdalton2424

Жыл бұрын

Yes he is a pedophile protector

Oh, I didn't know about Martina. I feel so upset .. She is a wonderful human being and I feel so emotional & saddened ...

Only someone who belongs in a loony bin would think there was no advantage!

about 20 yrs ago played adult competitive tennis and for a time, my mix-double partner was a guy who was very petite and feminine ( he preferred playing in skirt, so I imagine that today, he might be a transwoman). He was approx. 10inches shorter than me and probably half of my size. Yet: he could whack that ball with so much force that I could never return it. I was relatively good and won some amateur tournaments, and my serves were close to 100kmh, so I was “going for it too”. I even beat men sometimes, but only because I trained more and was younger, but if paired up with a male of similar age and physical training, a woman could never have a fair chance.

@GhastlyCretin

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. A small man still has a big strength advantage over a bigger woman. So this guy's argument that it should be on a case by case basis is nonsense.

@Man_fay_the_Bru

Жыл бұрын

He wore a skirt😂

@darko6200

Жыл бұрын

That is why we never hear about any woman wanted stand up again men in any sport .

@richcampbell6808

Жыл бұрын

You played with a man in a skirt? Were you desperate

@kaoskronostyche9939

Жыл бұрын

Strange. Isn't that what one of the famous Williams sisters said in an interview recently - that she would be destroyed by male tennis players?

I get very painful periods to the point I have to stay at home sometimes. But most of the time I have to go to work and just deal with it. It makes me angry when men claim they are women when they don’t actually feel What we feel. When I gave birth to my child I had an episiotomy, basically slicing my vag to give way to my child’s head who is a bit big. I have to have stitches and I almost lost a lot of blood. I had to stay in the hospital for almost a month because there was blood loss and they were considering blood transfusions. My point is, This is not only unfairness in sports but unfairness in our reproductive organs that extremely affect our health and wellbeing.

@teresabyrne855

Жыл бұрын

So true

@Med-lv9fq

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree with you, things that biological women have to go through the trans women don’t and can’t even imagine what it feels like,being a woman isn’t not about glamming up in skirt and putting on make up as these people think. Hope that you have recovered well after going through so much and that you and your baby are ok.

@zoomby4380

Жыл бұрын

We are not meant to suffer with the cycle. Your liver/spleen/kidney Qi is out of balance. Seek out a Traditional Chinese Herbalists. They will tailor made up a mixture to balance you. Chinese herbs help with clots, bloating, pain cramps, PMS, tender boobs, heavy flow, irregular flow. Please get these herbs, 3 months on them will help you. I used them for menopause...... If trans women did suffer with menopause...they would never want to be a women for real.

@iabaca

Жыл бұрын

I'm not a trans supporter, but the 1 thing that goes against your thought process is there are women (real women) who dont have periods or cant have kids. What's your perspective on them?

@lesliekilpatrick7875

Жыл бұрын

I had one that lasted a month once.

Madness is the new norm

What next, someone will come and say they believe the earth is flat. Does that mean the rest of us have to believe in their delusions?

Periods alone have huge, complex effects on womens ability and methods of training. Some athletes will change strength programming based on where they are in their cycle.

This is completely unfair. I remember Pierce talking about a trans woman breaking a record and it pissed me off so much! Wanna compete? Compete with other Transgenders , don't ruin it for actual women just because you're not strong enough to compete with those of your own gender! It's pathetic!

can someone tell me what female identified as male and competed in male sports ?

There’s this pathological need for attention. Then there’s the rampant, vile misogyny. A team of their own is a 1st step in protecting women.

@orgonewarrior1604

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, the first response is to make more drama...

@ulfrinn8783

Жыл бұрын

Why bother? Recognize them for the gender they are (male in this case) and if they can't compete against other men, tough shit. That's life. We've wasted too much energy on this mess when the solution really is that simple. Stop pretending men are women, and suddenly these problems disappear.

@madinfouru2624

Жыл бұрын

Misogyny? Most of the supporters of this garbage are feminsits, aka misandrists.

@madinfouru2624

Жыл бұрын

If a man is a misogynistic person he sure as fk is NOT supporting men being women. Your comment is pretty ignorant

@Songbirdstress

Жыл бұрын

They are incredibly misogynist. They LIKE it.

We are literally living in the Bizarro world. We have lost our F#CKING minds.

@lollywilson7880

Жыл бұрын

So true love this comment 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@maeamaille

Жыл бұрын

yea it's this and not all the fucked up shit that non-queer people do. did we lose our minds when the majority of gun deaths were inflicted by family members or when the Nazis organized a genocide of the Jews? was it the gay conversion camps? mormonism or scientology? No! this! people just exercising their right to live freely as themselves without hurting anyone is your tipping point? STFU

This guy is nuts, not wanting a blanket ban. On a side note, wouldn't that open up lawsuits

Not making it a blanket ban will create loopholes in the ruling. Why do we need to make life complicated by listening to them all over again

What's next? As a 41 year old woman can I say that I identify as a 6 year old child, and enroll in children's sports? If I "say" I'm a child I should be a child right? What if there aren't any specific rules that say adults can't play? I should be good to go!

@ulfrinn8783

Жыл бұрын

Then how far off are you from having some pedophile say he identifies as a 12 year old boy to avoid spending a while in prison for sexually abusing a child.

@krisquigley4497

Жыл бұрын

Right? That's the "logic" they're using.

@daisiesandpandas1218

Жыл бұрын

They're coming... It's called trans age. Basically adults identifying as 10 year olds... It's starting the same way as the rest of the community did, they calling it a mental illness and a response to trauma first so the public allows the Trojan horse in... And pretty soon it won't be a mental illness but something anyone can do. There's a dude on KZread identifying as a 10 year old girl, with adoptive parents.

@its_rick_james_bich2575

Жыл бұрын

Peter Thatchell in this video (ironically a human rights activist) is also one of those who believes the legal age of sex should be lowered. He believes there is nothing wrong with a 9 year old having sex if it’s “consensual”…link below from 2015 interview.. kzread.info/dash/bejne/f6aTushpp9jWqbA.html

@maeamaille

Жыл бұрын

You're the most dangerous sort of stupid. You're comparing gender dysphoria (a real thing) and dumb shit like " if I say I'm a unicorn then am I?" bullshit. it's a dumb and tired argument. What's next is the next generation won't be as awful. Every group has had to endure prejudice to be free and this is no different

All of this could be avoided if we just reject the delusional premise.

@esthellakomerl8084

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. 👏

@ponygirl1716

Жыл бұрын

Surprisingly few people with any sort of power have the courage. It's shameful.

Wouldn't it be fair to say that I as a Jamaican national can identify as whatever nationality I feel like I am inside? I mean they've already kicked down the absurdity door with all these different genders & pronouns. So I should be able to say that I identify as whatever nationality I choose & be accepted & treated as such. Passport, birth certificate, social security, citizenship & everything that comes with it???

It's about time !!!

Piers I truly appreciate you advocating for women ❤

@chris__10

11 ай бұрын

Yes, he's a modern day Mother Theresa 🙄

Crazy just crazy

This is not fair never will be

Some women are stronger than others. The weaker ones can't compete. This doesn't equate to an "unfair advantage" it's just nature. Same with anyone else. If you can't compete against your own sex, tough luck. That's life.

@Shaolin91z

Жыл бұрын

Trans women are women🤭

@andreasrumpf9012

Жыл бұрын

@@Shaolin91z Trans women are men.

@bessmay5353

Жыл бұрын

Men are not women. Males are not females. Trans women are not women. Nothing else to say. Separate trans women athletes into their own catagory.

@johnc3525

Жыл бұрын

@@Shaolin91z Transwomen are transwomen.

@megsley

Жыл бұрын

​@@Shaolin91z proof? please cite real sources.

Blanket ban is vital and I agree with Piers and the Lady.

Can’t believe this is a “ thing” The world has lost their freakin minds !!

@alexparakan

Жыл бұрын

West is only a small part of the world.

@fayaqun0

Жыл бұрын

The world ...? We are good without you westerners .

@ScottyKirk1

Жыл бұрын

​@@alexparakan But the west competes everywhere in the world

@Matty-fl2tu

Жыл бұрын

They have lost their minds for years, just after the 90s,

I laugh so hard at this argument! Dead on! 😂

What I find disgusting is that Mr Thomas would walk around the girls changing room with his junk out and all the girls would go quiet and cover up. Just think about how creepy that is .

@RatedRKalluSt4r

Жыл бұрын

Were you there...?

@iqval8929

Жыл бұрын

@@RatedRKalluSt4r BAM!

@michellepound848

Жыл бұрын

​@@RatedRKalluSt4r were you there?

@RatedRKalluSt4r

Жыл бұрын

@@dimfre4kske67 Thanks for the source, didn't know that.

@user-hs9ge3cj9p

Жыл бұрын

He should be thrown in jail...disgusting and abhorrent

If there is not going to be a blanket ban, the selection should not be based upon "proven advantage" but proven to not have an advantage.

A non gender category would be the best solution. That way that if a male or female or Trans or intersex wants to compete they can. This way everyone in the category knows what is happening. I personally hate when I watch a sporting event especially a hard fought one to be discounted due to drug testing that will be debated long after the event.