Do Transgender Athletes Have an Advantage in Female Sporting Events? | Good Morning Britain
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Sociology professor Ellis Cashmore believes sport should adapt to accept transgender athletes and embrace inclusivity - but Olympic medal winner Sharron Davies says it’ll create an unequal playing field.
Broadcast on: 04/03/2019
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I'm pretty sure there's a vast silent majority out there who agree whole-heartedly with Morgan and Navratilova. But people are afraid to speak up because madness has become the right thing in this world. You get cancelled for being sane.
@ashnakamura2411
9 ай бұрын
It's actually a movement that's indoctrinating kids, it's ridiculous.
@rhysjaggar4677
9 ай бұрын
I'm absolutely sure the vast silent majority is there, because 100% of people who express an opinion face-to-face, outside places of work, to people they at least know a bit (me), agree with Morgan and Navratilova. I've not heard one single opinion disagreeing with them. I'm sure they exist, but they don't exist in the circles I talk in.
@thezu9250
6 ай бұрын
Most people including trans people agree with that view. There’s a reason why they’re been banned from every female sport now.
@lisieltaneza3845
22 күн бұрын
Why scared being cancelled? The world dont evolve around them.
@KR-us9pj
7 күн бұрын
You are not alone.
This is great, as a man i can identify as a woman, make millions in women's sports for like 3 years then leave and identify as a man again. Heck yeah, easy money
@minoarno7415
11 ай бұрын
true, I think we found a new get rich quick scheme xD
@hafeezahmatthews3645
11 ай бұрын
🙃🙃🙃🙃
@MrTheChefkoch
10 ай бұрын
there isnt that much money to be made in woman sports. isnt it?
@wallace8637
10 ай бұрын
The only problem, hope you dont compete against women(identified).
@jorgesousa6683
10 ай бұрын
Wait until this transgenderism becomes a trend. Then women sports will be just as competitive as men's.
Well said Piers! "BULLYING PPL INTO SILENCE" that pretty much wraps it up , your no nonsense approach to this topic is greatly APPRECAITE , your continued quest to help society come back to their senses is so reassuring THANK YOU , keep up the great work!
We´ve seen cases of 60 years old men identifying themselves as women in order to retire earlier (sin men retire at 65), this is in Argentina, this is the same case. this is not embracing inclusivity, it is just taking advantage of an unclear agenda.
I think trans people should compete against trans people. Trans-men v Trans-men, Trans-women v Trans-women
@TheDetroit147
11 ай бұрын
This is all uterly nonsense. There are " 100 genders" then there should be 100 gender categories in sport. Simple as that. And next will be changing rooms, toiletes, specific schools and so on. This has to stop. Trans woman are trans woman NOT woman gget out of the woman sports, toiletes, changing rooms etc.
@bestjenkins2165
10 ай бұрын
I aint payin tax dollars just for that
@jorgesousa6683
10 ай бұрын
Or just 1 trans people category. If they see themselves as gender neutral, then let them suffer the consequences of their own choices. Then the biologically born women would probably complain, but oh well, you chose it in the first place.
@aaditnoronha5383
9 ай бұрын
yea lol no one will watch that
@kevinonyia6203
9 ай бұрын
This will open a pandoras box... We'll have other genders wanting recognition in sports as well
The professor complete ignores nature. The fact that more muscles and the ability to use them, will give an transgender (male to female) tennisplayer for instance, unfair advantages against a female player. Once debaters ignore facts, it is an uneven fight against reality.
@paulevans8348
Ай бұрын
Interesting that they didn't invite a real medical doctor for his opinion but some "sociologist". What a joke.
This is gold! LGB is like KGB
@RosalindandGanymede
8 ай бұрын
😂😂
Caster Semenya was not born a female. He is a genetic male, with XY chromosomes. He has PAIS----Partial Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome, which causes his body to have an incomplete response to androgens, the most dominant of which is testosterone. Therefore, at his birth, his genetalia did not look fully normal for a male, and his doctors advised his parents that it would be best to rear him as female. However, his parents did not follow the next medically necessary step. For AIS males who wish to live as females, to more closely match the look of their genitalia, their undescended testicles need to be removed, and they need to receive supplemental estrogens to help them go through female puberty. If that surgery and therapy had been done for Caster Semenya, he would be considered to be a biological female. Not a genetic female, not a fertile female, but a biological female, who went through puberty as such, and who therefore has no gender advantage over genetic females. Biological female should be defined as someone who went through female puberty. Chromosomes (genetics) should not matter, and current hormone levels should not matter. If Caster Semenya suppresses his hormones for six months, that dies not take away his male advantage of bigger, stronger, bones and muscles, and larger heart and lungs. He has permanently received those advantages over biological females, be cause he went through male puberty. Therefore, he should never be allowed to compete against women, at all.
LGB is fine, but when they added the T they joined the crazy train that America seems to be on. AFAIK Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual are all words referring to a persons sexual preferences. Then they added all these letters that have nothing to do with sexual preferences and are all about personal identity. The word ''Straight'' has more inline with Lesbians, Gays and Bisexuals, since it also refers to sexual preference. Adding all these letters that refer to personal identity just confuses everything.
I'm not embracing gender fluidity, I'm offended and this man is a doctor.
This professors argument doesn't hold water. Well it does, but not for the reasons he would like. He says he can't be a jockey because he's to tall, a basket ball player because he's to small, well then shouldn't that translate that he or any other man shouldn't be able to compete as a woman because they are to male?
@guesst9814
11 ай бұрын
ikr. but i say, hey, let's wait until they talk about fighting/martial arts sports. and if they don't change their mind even then, idk what would make them.
I just don't understand how this man can call himself a professor when he clearly does not have a clue what genes and hormones do to someone's body, Otherwise he would not have this argument.
@classicalcompanionclassicalcom
9 ай бұрын
He's terrified of getting canceled, and plays the game he needs to play from there
@margaretmullan5012
8 ай бұрын
Also he is NOT a woman!
@haninnify
7 ай бұрын
@@classicalcompanionclassicalcom joke, where did we get with this
@AzNightmare
6 ай бұрын
*He also looks like he's never played sports in his life.*
@user-qd9fy8on4y
Ай бұрын
That "professor" didn't answer the question. Don't let the cheaters and frauds invading the women's locker room, restroom and sports stealing championships, records and opportunities. Women who speak out are labeled as transphobic and banned from competing.
EVERYONE has to know the correct answer to this. It's not confusing. You were bullied a little at a time, until your afraid to speak up. Be opposed to any hate speech policies. "If you want to know who controls you, look at who you are not allowed to criticize." ~ Voltaire
I believe a trans gender women should compete with other trans gender women. They should have their own division.
@sirhoopalot1125
8 ай бұрын
It wouldn’t last
@kenyaglobalnewsnetwork35
7 ай бұрын
True
@haninnify
7 ай бұрын
only fair solution
@tarathoughts13
6 ай бұрын
Taht would be great - but we literally don’t have enough trans athletes. Maybe in a couple years yes but not right now.
this man is a professor? then i can become one too then. and quite easily too.
@guesst9814
11 ай бұрын
so if that's what he's suggesting, then we should hold such an event and *purposefully let the women lose* then? because that's what it is. this professor doesn't take into account biological women at all. the records would be set by men and trans-women. even then i doubt that that would make him concede.
@guesst9814
11 ай бұрын
and one more thing: trans people exclude themselves. openly. then suddenly insists they are to be included. what kind of unfunny joke is that?
@Shroomboy81
11 ай бұрын
Ye, He's a professor in Bullshit studies by the sounds of it.
1 question How the hell is he a professor.
@romperstomper1183
7 ай бұрын
He just identifies as a professor
@micksmixxx
2 ай бұрын
@@romperstomper1183 🤣🤣🤣
We are not born in a body. We are born as a body, we do not self-identify we are identified but others.
Can i please join the womans national futbol team!!??? Im a 60 year old man....Retired futbol player....and..out of shape....and look forward to scoring 3 goals every game....and winning the scoring title. Oh please...put me on your squad!
It's mind blowing that he said 'why would someone live a facade' with such blind ignorance, although considering what he's arguing, not surprising.
@bard6184
10 ай бұрын
Yeah. Why would someone live a facade? Millions of dollars, that's why.
Honestly we don’t have to accommodate, especially when it takes from others rights
I think we shouldn't ask biological males if transwomen are allowed in women sports. Let's ask biological female medical experts, biological female sports committees, and biological female sports participants if they should allow transwomen in their category.
Transphobic means afraid of trans people, seeking to understand the appropriate place for a trans person or for all trans person's is far from being afraid it is being rational
@vueport99
9 ай бұрын
Transphobic means people who are too afraid to actually transition and commit to the surgeries to become the opposite sex and are a fraud by simply declaring they now identify as something they clearly are not!
@user-os4fl4zj7d
16 күн бұрын
They are supplanting fear for disgust.
Heck yes. Never should of been aloud
Imagine being in the university were this professor is your teacher. How much is he being paid to do this nonsense? Not everyone can be elite athletes just like you can’t just wake up one day and change your sex. We’ve entertained this for far too long.
hahahahaha that introduction was hilarious at :25
There are certain sports that trans gender athletes could complete on a fairly equal footing but these sports tend to skill based (eg shooting archery and equestion ( where men and and woman do complete on an equal footing )), but I do understand where those concerns about physical based sports come from. I believe more reseach on this issue is needed.
Piers doing the Lord's work💯
How can he say “just accept the fact that he can’t be a jockey,” or Piers can’t play in the NBA because of physical reasons, but refuse to understand that a male who can’t compete with the top men in the WORLD just accept it and not transition to have an advantage?? He literally muted his own point.
India Willoughby has done a complete 180 on his opinions here and now supports trans women in sports. Maybe his activist buddies pushed him into it.
Based on the doctor's theory; Tyson would not be a good boxer because of his height? Also you do get short NBA basketballs players.
Let sports be open for all categories rather than gender categories. Let trans people, men and women compete together in combined events to conlcude that biological women sports will vanish from the pages of history 😂
I believe these people who say that it is ok for men to join women's sports should get in the ring with a man themselves and prove to us that there is no advantage.
@lyss3461
4 ай бұрын
💯💯👍
The professor is mixing vaginas and penises, I mean apples and oranges. The military and other organizations are accepting the admission and equality of trans people in a social sense. They can do jobs if they're qualified. But athletic competition is not just a social construct. It's based on the science of the body. Athletes spend their entire lives improving their bodies performance including, reaction times, muscle mass, VO (oxygen intake based on size of lungs), heart size (increased efficient blood flow), etc. The worlds athletic organizations are choosing social constructs over science. They're afraid to anger sponsors and appear trans-phobic, then loosing commercial sponsors. Money. that's the bottom line.
This response answers THAT, ! question. :Marker{04:18}. In the swimming field, there should be a lapse in the starting bell a few seconds after the starting bell or women's. THAT would be determined by the racing council and officials. In Golf, There are two Tee markers on the tee-off green. One for women and one for men. Also, you are given the choice of having a ,"Handicap " in Golf also. In track and field, A racer on the inside lane starts farther behind the farther outside lanes. In the most famous car race in the world Indianapolis 500, Your qualifying time determines where you start in the starting grid. In a lot of sports, you have the choice of having a point advantage also. Ping Pong for example. I.E. Player #1, says to Player #2, I'll spot you "X" points".
What I find strange is the fact that there a no ftm athleths who compete in the mens cathegory complaining that the will always be at disatvantage against men. Somehow they are always left out out this discussion ?
When the Olympics is on, there should be Transgender Games, just like we have the Paralympics, and the Special Olympics. Everyone has the right to Compete in Sports, as long as they stay in their own category.
The fact that discourse in this subsists of the title is why the state of things is so dismal. Men clearly and obviously have an advantage over women in physical contests. The debate about this is so behind where the issue is currently at that there's no use in even tuning in to these kinds of interviews/debates.
What a lot of people don't understand about hormones, and this also includes steroids, is that even after blocking out testosterone and replacing it with estrogen, the body (muscles) retains most of that strength. Just because you are on estrogen now and are blocking your test, doesn't make all of those gains go away. Most of those gains actually will stay there. That's the main reason why athletes when caught doing steroids get a life time ban. The argument is basically "ok fair enough, you're not doing steroids anymore and we could test you every day for the rest of your career, but that's not gonna change the insane advantage you already have accrued from the days where you were doing roids. It can never be fair to put you up against a natural" Most people who use steroids will do them in cycles. You do them for the months in the off season while you're training, then you stop doing them but continue to hit the gym hard. You won't fail the test, and you will have most of the gains you made during the cycle in tact. SAME RULE APPLIES TO NATURAL TESTOSTERONE. You could take a 25 year old male, castrate him entirely, and pump him full of all the estrogen you'd like. He could have 34 GGG sized knockers and still be insanely way stronger than any woman. A lot of people think that you take away the test and put in estrogen, and the muscles just act as though it's always been that way, but that's just simply not the case. If it were, athletes wouldn't get a lifetime ban for steroids. But the science clearly shows that there are lasting impacts from high levels of test even after its no longer present in the system. That is why trans women should under no circumstances be able to compete with biological women in athletic sports.
He basically said noone wouls go through all that trouble so its fine. Have you no idea to what extent people will go to for money?? They risk their lives, what's pretending for a few years. And he didnt even have a solution in the end. Oh yeah we have to inclusive, so that means if a man de ides he is a women, he can take part in women games and too bad for women, we dont give a shit about women's rights
@luckystone2293
11 ай бұрын
Of course he knows
@kayla-Rey22
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, like no athlete ever went through all that trouble to take performance enhancing drugs. Winning is everything to these people. They'll do anything to win and for all the publicity that goes with it.
I Salute Martina Navratilova for speaking out against transgender athlete's competing against female athlete's, especially in Track and Field events, if these Trans athlete's wants to compete against other trans athlete's as well or better yet since they were born a man they should compete against the male athlete's.
Funny how you don't see trans-men competing against real men, isn't it?
@independentfilmchannel1476
22 күн бұрын
That would have the opposite effect. They would always lose and therefore, no one would notice.
Each human cell contains 23 pairs of chromosomes that carry DNA within their nucleus. The X and Y chromosomes, commonly referred to as the sex chromosomes, are one such pair. They determine the biological sex, reproductive organs, and sexual characteristics that develop in a person. Female (XX) mammals inherit one X chromosome from each parent, but males (XY) receive an X from their mother and a Y sex chromosome from their father.
Over FOUR MILLION VIEWS? And just 159 comments lol? C'mon youtube, the censoring is off the damn charts!!
@micksmixxx
2 ай бұрын
@truthhurts2879. Sadly, my friend, they employ muppets as moderators here. If brain cells were made of chocolate, half of them wouldn't have enough to fill a Smartie. 😉
Indi she is a great example of what a Trans person is love her view….. I feel sorry that she has to put up with Pride ideologies/activism… I would love to see Douglas and Indi in a Peirs interview… please it would be a good listen… against trans in sport…. Indi you are a great human being❤️ I am a biological woman… the man needs to be shut up he is a waste of space.
@AF-gd7fh
10 ай бұрын
India is not like this anymore. He is a full TRA. Says he is a biological female. Says men should be in women's prisons and in changing rooms with girls and women.
@AF-gd7fh
10 ай бұрын
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India Willoughby has it right on. Enough said.
Please as Africans lets never allow these kinds of things to enter our society, and let's protect our kids at all costs in Africa...
Piers and Sharan are correct end of
Why is that everyone who supports Transgender who comes in a debate, always cut off and get loud and wants the other people to shush! Then they get angry if you dont agree with them! hmmm!!! toxic
Absolutely not ! of course it’s an unfair advantage , they are male
@Shroomboy81
11 ай бұрын
Definitely an unfair advantage, chucking a wig on and having some silicon put in your chest doesn't make you female. The thing is it doesn't even take that these days they just have to "feel" like they're a woman. A schizophrenic might think they're an international spy, we don't chuck a James Bond kit at them and say "crack on, have at it" we medicate them back to reality. It should be the same with this lot.
Then, why not give them their own category transgender men play against transgender men trans women play against trans women. 🤷🏻♂️
@kayla-Rey22
10 ай бұрын
Because men identifying as women don't want Trans sports. Why would they? Winning against women is too easy.
Notice how the transitioned guest answers the gotcha question from that other guest who evidently has a doctorate but he couldn't do the same and gets so upset, maybe he is not use to being interrupted and has the floor and everyone's undivided attention at his brilliance, that he tells them to be silent. Always the condescending arrogance from the one side in these debates in my opinion.
We are behind you Morgan..
Yeah just do a different event for these people. I've seen a streetfight with my own eyes pitting a normal adult female against a smaller built trans person. It was like seeing Khabib destroying everyone in MMA. Literally in seconds. Let them compete against the likes of them. Like the Paralympics for example.
PROFESSOR Ellis's INCLUSIVITY WIPES WOMEN OUT. ITS NO LONGER INCLUSIVE FOR BIOLOGICAL WOMEN anger 😒 😤 🙄
I couldn't be a jockey or a basketball player...yes, you could...just not one that can compete in professional sports
online college professor at best.....
The answer is Yes this isnt a debate.
Why is castor Semenya pic in the background ?
I haven't watched this show since Peirs left. He was the only good thing about it.
Love how on every good morning video I go on with piers challenging people, all the comments have been removed and only now new ones are being made, wonder when they get around to removing all of are new comments!
Wanna call me transphobic? Go on, like I give a ****. I won't cry, I swear 😅
This guys arguments are tertible
8:00 he lost his mind lol
"No". This issue doesnt deserve to even be discussed. Pierce is right. Next topic please
Im a male n im not tall 5'5 lol but i know i have strength advantages over the average female
They included a handicapped sports category, so there should be transgender category.
Whether at an elite or non- elite level, it should be based on biology. This is WHY there are male and female sports.
If I wanna be like Lebron or MJ, I just need to identify myself as a woman then join WNBA? ahahahahaha
Ive got a great idea to make it fair for evryone Just make a tournement / orginisasions for the trance genders so they can compete with other trance gender and stuff .
. Don't you remember the Olympic games in 1948/ 52/56/60/ The East Germans and the Russians used to have Female hammer throwers and shot put and discuss throwers built like heavy weight boxers. They were massive in size and strength . They won all the golds , and nobody said a sqeak , but nobody believed they were normal. Our athletes looked ridiculously small against these female giants. They could have been trans, but were never tested for years
Uhm excuse me! Why is Castor Semenya on the poster at the back? She’s a woman competing with other women!
Trans then should begin their own "all-trans" sports teams in which ever sport they choose & compete with their own kind. That would make it equal.
I always laugh when someone says "SELF identifies as". Yes. YOU. YOU YOURSELF IDENTIFY AS A TOASTER. It's not MY job to call or treat you as a toaster. MY GOD WHAT IS HAPPENING IN AMERICA.
Yes they do These people need compeated against them self seeing that their more then enough to compete And yes seperated all three types female competition The male competition And the transgender competition And problem solved And why would anyone be offended over that
Apparently there is a 10% difference between women and men of similar stature in muscle strength etc., so why not do a study to see if limiting trans athletes to those who are 10% shorter and/or 10% lighter than the average height/weight of the female team, and then see how the results are?
@sebastijanglozinic8630
8 ай бұрын
Yes, but you can not reduce a persons stature or muscle density by 10%. It is simply impossible, even if they fully transition. So even a trans person that has fully transitioned will still have certain physical advantages over biological women.
The easy thing is for all the women athletes walk away and do not compete, then the trans male will have to compete on his own
Why do they have Castor Semenya at the back?She is not a trans woman
Why are there only 12 comments from within the last 3 days..? Odd.
@Masowe.
10 ай бұрын
some people are like, put debate while cooking😂
If a pathologist receives a badly injured body and is to perform an autopsy. How then does he identify them? Most likely as a man or a woman..because there is no other choice...
Where are all the comments
I think transgenders should have a different category in sports
What about contact sport? What about transgender men fighting in the mens heavyweight division.
Do they compete in men's sport because they will come dead last in every event😂😂
so.. is McEnroe now vindicated after all? for his statement re: serena william? are attacking critics of McEnroe now supporting trans women athletes competing in womens sport? because if not, then they are all hypocrites. because you can't have it both ways.
She said the LGB is like the KGB 😂 that’s clever asf I like that one.
YES
Mother Nature has nothing to do with what trans people are doing to their bodies, in fact she is most likely crying. How dare that guy bring Mother Nature in to this.
TRANSGENDER GAMES IS A SUPERB IDEA.
I'm waiting for the day a female born person or transgender opts to compete in sports and dominates. I wonder why it's taking long
Of course they do! End of.
I was told before that women are as strong as men. Now you don't want to be equal?
The American swimmer was in the 400's in standing; converts to female, is a champion.
LGB acting like the KGB, I couldn't think of a better comparison. GIVE TRANS-WHICHEVER WAY THE CLAIM TO BE, their OWN CATEGORY.
Not only do the records speak for themselves, I wonder how many trans 'women' would be willing to walk into a hospital and tell someone, "I'm having a miscarriage". Or better still, undergo an examination by a gynecologist. C'mon do it. We just want see you embarrass yourselves and prove to us all how deep the bs goes.
How come we don’t hear about trans men competing against biological males?
"but why would someone live a facade" mate if i had to live a facade in public for 20 years for MILLIONS, id win an oscar every year
0:27 looks like he's being impaled at the moment. Vlad style.
Woman v woman no compromise.
Professor??? Are you joking?????
He is a professor & thats why our kids are ‘confused’😢😢