Hey folks! Have a question about range, legality, insurance or charging? Then watch our followup interview with Andy where we ask him all those questions for you - kzread.info/dash/bejne/nHZh0c6IlLS8mc4.html

@DylanBegazo

2 жыл бұрын

Can you redo the experiment using a 2022 American made Tesla Model 3? I want to haul a trailer too but I heard the newer model 3 has been upgraded with a different battery called the 4680 battery among other upgrades. Want to see if this video is still accurate with all the new goodies.

Locomotives actually use electric motors to pull huge loads. It’s a hybrid system that uses a Diesel engine to generate the electricity. This should tell you something about what electric vehicles are capable of.

@slopedarmor

3 жыл бұрын

WW2 Elefant tank destroyers were also powered by electric motors and a generator : p

@tommymairo8964

3 жыл бұрын

Electro motor can provide huge torque at low speed which is not possible for an ICE without gearboxes. So use electro motor to tow heavy loads reduce the chance of incident and the cost for maintenance, thanks to the simplified mechanical structures.

@drexrexx

2 жыл бұрын

Ya I work of union pacific railroad and I had no clue that the electric powered all of the loads until I got into training.

@yomomma1459

2 жыл бұрын

now telsas just need diesel engines to make them hybrids

@orangepeeI

Жыл бұрын

It's not about electric motor but the battery.

I'm not happy about losing a bit of that wonderful storage space in the trunk, but to be able to tow 6000 LBS is something I didn't think would be possible with a Model 3. Nice work!

I drove 4 hours to get my rig set up from CAN AM RV, let me tell you, what a god sent transformation, these guys are scientists. I went from trailer wobble to driving one finger in a wind storm. Warm friendly service and Andy himself takes you on a run after they're done and answers all of your questions. My Mercedes R350 hitch always kept coming lose, they reworked it, added steel and made her permanent. Great place.

Andy is the "Hitch Guru". I've purchased 3 30' Airstreams from Andy over the years; pulling them all with Mercedes ML's. Customers come from all over North America to have their hitches dialled in. He's a Canadian national treasure.

@TruckKing

3 жыл бұрын

I love towing with Andy. I learn so much each time - Stephen

@pedalmike

3 жыл бұрын

Ron Feinberg- Andy's crew set up my 2009 VW Tiguan to tow my 2004 16' Airstream Bambi International CCD. It was the nicest rig to drive that I've ever had. Can Am really knows their stuff as you say! I drove 500 miles one way to get it done but it was the best towing investment I ever made.

@EarlBalentine

2 жыл бұрын

@@pedalmike Does Andy just have one location? any place in the US?

@pedalmike

2 жыл бұрын

@@EarlBalentine -it's just the one location in London, Ontario....however Andy has been willing to consult with customers over the phone with specific advice for your rig to enable a shop local to you to do the work.

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Жыл бұрын

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I love this. Thank you! I have 2 Teslas and have alway been worried about hauling with them. This made me feel so much better!

Never imagine that a model 3 can tow a big trailer like this. impressive!

Impressive show, I'm not a towing guy but this was interesting to say the least. The Model 3 certainly is a more capable car than some people are giving it credit for. Only goes to show that with professional insight and know-how even unthinkable things are possible.

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Жыл бұрын

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Wow! Really impressive to see these things move. It is pulling well over its limit and still manages to pull with no effort

@My_HandleIs_

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/dJadpLqEZaaynNo.html It's all fun and games until someone dies.

Wow, that setup is insane. Thought this was gonna be vlickbait. Loved your Canadian touch on TFL, didn't know you split but looks like you have a pretty good channel going here!

Great review, first tow test I’ve seen with model review.

Good information on towing, especially now with more people RVing.

Can’t wait to see your reviews when the Tesla truck comes out Great Job!

so crazy to see a Model 3 towing a big travel trailer like that!

This was the last box the model 3 had to check for me. Great video thanks guys!

Just like the old days, smart man! Awesome video TK!

Very impressive. I wouldn't have thought a car that size could be so stable with such a large trailer. The insight about the ratio of overhang to wheelbase makes sense. I used to tow a 27' TT with a first-gen Durango and it was a handful, always on the verge of oscillating out of control, and I burned through two differentials on a single 2400 mile trip. Even so, battery technology is still going to have to improve a bunch before long-distance electric towing becomes truly practical, IMHO.

@raycoleman3183

3 жыл бұрын

that is a very strange experience you had. I owned a first gen Durango and drove it 95,000 miles, about half the time towing an 18’ tandem axle ‘car hauler’ trailer. Towed on both interstates and secondary roads. Extremely stable towing platform. If yours experienced ‘sway’, one or more factors were way out of adjustment.

I'm glad you talked about the increased efficiency of the m3 motors over the mx motors because people are trying to compare what the CT will be able to do based on what they've seen with mx. There's a lot more to consider, efficiency, weight, cog, to name a few.

I had this very fun idea which I really want to do when I get older and have my own property for second vehicle I'm planning to have a model 3 or a model y long range and I want to make from scratch a solar powered camper so when you're camping out it would be self-sustaining and you could also charge your car as well even if the Tesla runs out and you're like in the middle of nowhere just can't be on the side of the road it will be fine I gave myself this idea by talking to my brother about making a solar powered shed for electric lawn equipment

Thank you so much for this incredible video. I look forward to towing with the Cybertruck

what an amazing video thank you!

So very interesting! Thank you!

That was amazing!

Got our setup done by Andy this summer. We are pulling a 16’ Airstream with a 4 cylinders Tiguan. The setup works great. Trying to convince my gf that when come the day, a car could be a real winner to pull our rig.

@xploration1437

3 жыл бұрын

Bye bye transmission.

@sharonbraselton3135

Жыл бұрын

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Thank you for the video!

Great information, thank you

Extremely impressive what you've managed to do with the M3! It's an extremely elegant way to move a travel trailer. While I'm sure you lost all the folks who tow for a living when the range/vs charging times came out, this is clearly a very viable setup for a retiree who just likes to RV or a family vacation.

@sharonbraselton3135

Жыл бұрын

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@samusaran7317

Жыл бұрын

@@sharonbraselton3135 Hybrids are not electric vehicles...

We love seeing Teslas towing. We’ve been towing with our Model X and learning a lot. They are solid tow vehicles!

@ChurchInAshes

3 жыл бұрын

Are you just virtue signalling or are you actually towing long distance? They are not practical for towing at all. Unless you spend %90 of time in a city.

@RogerM88

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChurchInAshes how dare you making so much sense? Don't be surprise some fanboy appears here to conter argue you.

@VoxelLoop

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChurchInAshes I'm a bit confused, what would be the issue with towing outside the city? Generally speaking, Supercharger's are close enough that enough if your range is cut by 60% you'd be able to make it from one to the next with ease. (In Europe at least, in the US/Canada I'm not sure) Of course, it'd be a slower pace as you're having to stop more often, but you also gain some of that back by being able to charge over night to set off each day with a full charge.

@yomomma1459

2 жыл бұрын

@@VoxelLoop yeah i can’t speak for europe but in the US its not very practical. 60% is generous most companies will tell you expect 50% of the range your vehicle normally gets. in the US there are so many places where charging stations are 100+ miles apart and you might not actually make it to one before your battery dies.

@loaded.357

2 жыл бұрын

tongue weight means everything and what read is 500 pounds is what tesla vehicles are rated up to so unless your camper is under 4000 pounds total your gonna be over ratings and that's unsafe and causes accidents...n I have 2 million miles of towing no accidents under my belt so don't even try arguing with me I'm a cdl holder so I know way more about towing then some UK idiot camper Dad

Thank you for all the information you provide, very useful... on every video I feel like I learn something new :)

Wow impressed ! I got a model 3 dual motor I’m definitely doing something like this in the future

Wow great and thanks to andy

This is awesome! Well done.

@TruckKing

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you think so!

We own a Tesla Model Y and a 22ft airstream. It tows great. We have a reservation for a Tesla truck but this is working for now. Looking forward to having more storage room with the truck. But the length will be longer if we upgrade to a truck and I’m not 100% positive we want to do that. Sometimes getting into the superchargers with our set up now can be a little tight. If we add length with the truck we might end up having to unhitch at the superchargers. We just started our KZread channel.

@harrygoldsmith5527

2 жыл бұрын

I have the Tesla Y Performance & I was told the towing capacity was 3500lbs., can it actually tow more?

@davidew98

5 ай бұрын

@@harrygoldsmith5527NO, legally it can only tow 3,500lbs. I have a model y and towed a 3,500 lb trailer last summer and it was awesome. I’m not sure how these people at can am is legally changing weight ratings!

Super rad video!!! Would love to get Andy to set this up on my rig.

This makes me more excited for my Cybertruck. Tesla’s are dreamy!

@advancedscarecrow

3 жыл бұрын

Why are they dreamy? Because you can’t do an oil change? 😅

@GT4viper

3 жыл бұрын

@@advancedscarecrow uh they don’t need oil changes? Because they’re electric?

@advancedscarecrow

3 жыл бұрын

Duh I was implying that he’s lazy to oil change and that he’s exited to not change oil or something to that extent 😂

@wolfgang_h3t

3 жыл бұрын

Losing your roof while you're driving is hella dreamy 😂

@icepigeon1767

3 жыл бұрын

@@advancedscarecrow smh, but gas cars need way more maintenance and it cost a lot.

Fantastic! I own the Chevy Bolt. The only issue I have with towing is the charging locations are only set up for driving straight in, you will be blocking if you can drive straight in with the trailer, most likely you will need to unhitch and go charge. That will had 10 to 15 mins to your charge time. A Gas station you can drive up to the pump. Petro Canada has just installed their cross Canada fast charge network. But it is a time based charger, cost/min, which will favor the faster charging cars. Cheers

@TheDukeX

3 жыл бұрын

Same... the Bolt also tows amazingly well!

@rickhall7955

3 жыл бұрын

Many Tesla Supercharger locations are set up with a few stalls just for cars with trailers. You can also charge at your RV park :-)

@HCkev

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they should design charging station spots the same way as gas pumps, where you can enter and leave driving forward. But usually they put charging stations near the building to save costs (easier to run the wires, no need to dig and redo the asphalt)

@hgodtx

Жыл бұрын

In the Dallas area there are 3 Electrify America chargers and each location has ample room around it for trailers. They properly place the group of chargers at the least used part of a large parking lot so no one cares if you park whopper-jawed or blocking a "painted" isle.

Great video guys.

Awesome video! I’ve been waiting for proof that a model 3 can tow a small trailer....and here’s proof that it can tow what I call a huge trailer! Model 3 can be ordered with a hitch in Europe but not here. Why? Did you have any issues with Tesla software sensing a trailer or exceptional weight? Tesla sends data back to HQ...have you had any enquires from Tesla as to your “efficiency problems” as the software might consider it? Love it that truck guys are embracing electric transport. Guess the Cybertruck will be a game changer!

this is amazing! i am so glad I got to see this video. I was wondering if my Tesla M3 performance would be able to tow the smaller Airstream Bambi. Now I know it can,,, I have to do a lot more research into how to properly add the tow bar/hitch

Just curious if traveling on mountainous terrain, does the regen braking take care of the steepest grades? Or are you having to use brake pads to maintain speed?

Brilliant!

I towed an enclosed 5x8 U-Haul trailer from Columbia MO to San Luis Obispo CA. Car had NO problem handling the trailer. The only impact was the range was reduced by 30%. It required 5 extra 20 minute stops as opposed to the trip to MO.

@ChurchInAshes

3 жыл бұрын

5 20 min stops? That sounds horrible 😳

@thefish5861

2 жыл бұрын

My question, because I’m in the same situation as you, is how to manage the UHaul trailer on the back of my Tesla, at charging stations??

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Жыл бұрын

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@johnm5321

Жыл бұрын

Great info, thanks! I'm considering towing a 4x8 U-Haul, i was hoping to know the range degradation or the new Kw/mi, thanks for giving your input! To confirm, i assume this was a model 3?

@johnm5321

Жыл бұрын

Also, was that with a custom setup like Andy's or a more popular 3rd party model 3 hitch like the ecohitch?

So cool!

Impressive! Really well designed mount. If I need to move a ~3400lb car, what do you think of using a tow dolly hitched to a Tesla Model Y? Seems like it would be a good compromise to avoid over-weighting the hitch.

Holy shit this is awesome!!!

This makes me excited for the cybertruck oh yeah 😎 it going to be a beast at towing

Excellent! ⚡️⚡️⚡️ 🇨🇦

For myself ever since I heard about Elon Musk and noticed his company Tesla his I always been a really big fan of his vehicles. And it never ends of surprisingly seen how amazing all his vehicles are doing on polling trailers on polling like now seeing you guys driving a Tesla 3 pulling a bullet trailer is just Amazing

So nice coming down hills not burning brakes + recharging

Andy set up a few trailers for me. Guy is amazing to work with. The entire dealership is top notch. But I am not sure I will be towing with my Model 3 ;)

Outrageous!!

@jasanmiguel

3 жыл бұрын

After getting over my initial reaction, I'd ask do you have to unhook from the trailer at the tesla supercharger? I don't think there's room at these superchargers for both model 3 and travel trailer.

@TruckKing

3 жыл бұрын

It varies, Andy told us that he often was able to pull around the back of the chargers and still reach.

@sharonbraselton3135

Жыл бұрын

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That was amazing! What were the sticker labels (decals) on the Tesla and Airstream used?

this is frunkin bad ass no cap

Nice Info

Have my Cybertruck ordered and Andy will be my first stop.To buy and set up my trailer.

I see Tesla's in Québec with New York plates. There's probably a good network for snow birds to Florida too.

@whuang03

3 жыл бұрын

Is not probably, Tesla’s supercharging network is the largest and best, u can drive anywhere in US and Canada with reasonable charging station distance.

What were the kWh while towing 55mph

A worthy video

NICE! great "testimonial".

Love it

Can you please develop on the wheel base and overhang info you and Andy were talking about ... Would appreciate more info ... Thank you!

I tow a small pop up with our Model 3. I average about 420-450 wh/mi cruising on the highway. What is your consumption like while cruising on the highway?

@scottverge938

3 жыл бұрын

That doesn't sound too bad. Thanks for the data.

Do you have to disconnect the trailer every time you need to charge?

I have a model 3 and this is awesome lol

That Tesla Model 3 you’re using in the video is towing a full sized 6000 pound Air stream trailer! WOW 👁👄👁

Nice!

is it legal , or does the manufacture allow it, and if it if you get in an accident with the hitch you may not be covered in an accident

Wow. Impressive.

I love it when you add metrics for the rest of the world.

Hi there! We have a standard-range Model 3 and just built a 3,000 lb. solid wood tiny home trailer. Will our vehicle be able to safely transport the tiny home? After seeing this video, we're feeling confident we might be able to! Appreciate of your feedback! :)

"I poke along at 90 kph" lol backing up traffic to the next province lol

This was the first video that I have ever seen pf a Tesla Modle 3 towing. Great job making the video!

Awesome

Great Job Men :)

If I want this kind of hitch setup on my Tesla model 3 and I don't live in Canada, what kind of hitch do I ask for and where can I go to get one installed? Also any idea on general pricing for both the hitch and labor?

What hitch was used on the Model 3? I saw most only had a 350 tongue limit.

wow thank you- super interesting and helpful! WHere can I buy that towing attachment for the model 3? could. you include a link to buy it? thank you

It would be amazing if the image of the trailer would be reflected on the dashboard as well. :-)

Well, I think I'm now sold on the EAZ-LIFT WD hitch I was looking at..

Im about to get a hitch for my AWD long range M3 Tesla which one is that in your demo and where can I purchase?

I was charging with Andy at a Supercharger outside Port Hope last summer!

Super cool! Was this two different airstreams? I heard a 25’ mentioned then a 27’. I have an Airstream 27FB so I’m curious how that might compare. Thanks for the awesome video!

@TruckKing

3 жыл бұрын

We towed the 27.

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It looks amazing. Is this a completely custom hitch made by Can-Am RV? What about using the weight dist hitch on what is basically a unibody car?

@TruckKing

3 жыл бұрын

It's custom. Call Andy and ask him.

I have a hell of a time finding a place to fill my Travel trailer/pick up combo at a gasoline staion. How do you get into a charging station while hooked up to a travel trailer???

@TruckKing

3 жыл бұрын

Watch the second video - Andy shows you.

@mossybank2000

Ай бұрын

Most charging stops have 1 charger you can pull straight into rather than backing in to charge. Or you can unhook to charge. Not ideal but doable. We charge when we get to a campground

That's a hell-for-stout trailer hitch. The Stealth hitch is pretty much a bumper hitch.

Crazy!

Do you have to unhook at supercharger stations?

How much was the range reduced while towing? 50%?

Wow! I thought I’d have to wait for the Cybertruck. I should do this for my model S. Even though I hate to ruin the aesthetics of that vehicle.

@sharonbraselton3135

Жыл бұрын

Yes

Would it work with a standard plus. Not long range

I have used my model 3 for towing for years, and I’m not easy on it at all. I have been towing trailers up to 5000 lbs and it’s awesome.

@johnm5321

Жыл бұрын

What kind of range of Wh/mi (or Wh/km) have you been getting on average while towing? I'm specifically hoping to tow less than 2000 lbs and wondering how far I'll be able to get on each charge

@702stormrider

Жыл бұрын

What kind of hitch are you using and where to purchase please?

@Wingman77tws

Жыл бұрын

@@702stormrider I am using the stealth hitch.

@Wingman77tws

Жыл бұрын

@@johnm5321 I have pulled a 5000 lb trailer and gotten 400wh/mi and a 1000lb trailer and gotten 750wh/mi. Economy has basically nothing to do with weight, it is all about air drag.

@johnm5321

Жыл бұрын

@@Wingman77tws great insight, thanks. I'm thinking about a U-Haul trailer, hopefully not the 750 wh/ki

Did towing the Airstream with the Model 3 negate autopilot? Also, how much range did you have per 90% charge?

@TruckKing

3 жыл бұрын

A followup video is coming - We went back to Andy to answer viewers questions. Watch for it.

Why can't I save this vid to refer to later? Is that a setting by the publisher? I've never seen or noticed a vid I could not save on KZread before. Would like to save as a reference.

@6894robwilliams

3 жыл бұрын

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What does Tesla think of this? Does it invalidate your warranty? And what about your car insurance, what do they think about people welding hitches onto the structural components of the car?

@astroplutonium

3 жыл бұрын

If the load you tow is larger than the vehicle allowed towing capacity and that is the reason that the motor f.ex. gets damaged then yes. You can bet your tushy that Tesla wont pay you a dime in repairs. As for insurance the answer is clear. Insurance will not cover you in case of an accident. That is the law. Everyone on the net can tell you ''it is fine just buy buy buy'' but it is your money, your safety and your life that is at the stake so choose wisely.

Which hitch was used for this situation?

And how do you make this legal? If the car is not rated for towing? Was hoping for a 0-100kmh pull!

What about towing mirrors for the car? Do they set that up as well?

@tonykarais3172

3 жыл бұрын

You've got your side cameras to show you on the screen.

Did I miss the wh/mi figure at highway speeds? That will give you range for your trip using EV trip planners like abetterrouteplanner.com I wasn't able to see the figures on the graph at about 10:35

@Hogger280

3 жыл бұрын

They conveniently avoided the sore subject of range because it is dismal. Over 10,000 lbs. gross here and coefficient of drag is much greater. You could travel at 50 mph but who wants to do that. Maybe Tesla could make travel trailers that come with another 100 kwh battery in them (lol). Towing a fold down or crank down trailer makes much more sense than that Airstream.

So did you get it to the shops and back