As someone who played a lot of the gbc game, figuring out that some base or middle stages were better than fully evolved mons was weird

@Lippalate

3 ай бұрын

Same

@DanTheMan33088

3 ай бұрын

I spent so many damn hours on the GBC game back in the day

@bcat010

3 ай бұрын

same. It was weird that cards I brushed off as not being needed in decks I was making turned out to be some of the best cards in the game.

@PaladinSrettub

3 ай бұрын

I still play it and find it hilarious how some mons like Kadabra is a better attacker than Alakazam, although Zam's ability makes up for the lack of damage

@fulgenzio89

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, Fossil Haunter with Transparency

If nothing else I would certainly have included Fossil Haunter on this list. Between the 50% chance to avoid damage and effects regardless of matchup, no weakness, fighting resistance and free retreat, and the cheap attack with auto-sleep, it was an easy mon to splash even without Gengar. If your oppt brings in something with psychic resistance you can either put it to sleep or retreat for free. Definitely fits this list better than the likes of Dragonite and Arcanine, among others.

@nemesisofeden

2 ай бұрын

I would agree, Haunter was always frustrating to oppose. Dragonite is too unreliable for me. Especially on the GBC game. I'd rather use Dragonair and consistently use hyper beam to remove an opponent s energy.

The fact that Alakazam, which in the game was among the fastest Pokémon, had three energy retreat cost really bothered me a lot when I was a kid. And it still does 😅

The alakazam wiggly decks were savage. A stacked bench with 50hp base pokes meant essentially a 300+ hp whale dealing 60hp every turn. Great success with 'call a friend' pokemon and pokecentres

I recently replayed the tcg on gbc and used a haymaker-ish deck with wigglytuff as my only deck (I used dewgong as a late game sweeper until i had enough jigglypuff and wigglytuff cards). I know the ai isn't great but it was pretty incredible just how powerful that deck was. Wigglytuff was just flat out nasty. Really was something to behold compared to my past strategy of just building type countering decks.

@greasygranpapy7529

3 ай бұрын

The AI in those games is surprisingly good. I've been replaying the fan-translated sequel lately.

@thestonedgeek8928

3 ай бұрын

​@greasygranpapy7529 the sequel is alot of fun. I love the Dark archetype in that game. Now I want to replay it lol.

@RinaShinomiyaVal

3 ай бұрын

In the GBC2 game I would use handrip Trainers and Scyther as a partner for Wiggly. Fight resist, free retreat and basic Energy + DCE just like Wiggly. Best part is that the Casino on Team GR island with the Coin Flip minigame can be savestated on a 3DS or emu so 9 heads, 1 tails makes it 3000 free Chips to buy Present Pack x3. They locked Jungle Scyther in Rocket pack but Present Packs contain 300+ cards from multiple sets which sidesteps the accesibility issue. Fun deck

I dont usually watch these videos but ill watch all the classic ones you make!

@MarioMastar

3 ай бұрын

Pokemon TCG For the GBA is the biggest reason we recognize all the OG cards. after that there hasn't been a virtualized Pokemon TCG (or at least an official one I'm aware of) until...gosh they JUST announced one, and even then it sounds like it plays like Yugioh's Master Duel where it's mostly PvP with you buying cards via a gacha system, but no story to learn about different decks or challenge NPCs to test your strategies.

@XYGamingRemedyG

3 ай бұрын

Just checked it out, and it's in the play store, but the reviews aren't so kind rn​@@MarioMastar

@glennrugar9248

3 ай бұрын

Im old enough to have alot of the early set cards as a kid. I have a heavy nostalgic reaction to these cards lol

@XYGamingRemedyG

3 ай бұрын

@@MarioMastar I looked it up, and it turns out the game is in the play store, already, but the reviews aren't so kind.

@christianbell8347

3 ай бұрын

Well you better start...

brilliant vid!

Great video!

@iTunsiscool26

3 ай бұрын

I'm glad you enjoyed it

Really interesting concept , loved the recent uploads

I will forever be haunted by the Gameboy version where the AI would play Nidoran♂️ and Pokemon Breeder, evolving it straight to Nidoking. Toxic dealing double poison damage between turns ugh. Absolutely rolled.

Perhaps you could do a video on the best or worst trainer cards of the era. It'd be interesting to see the power gap there

@ConCollectsPKMN

3 ай бұрын

Pretty sure he's done that already

Love the content dexlogs! This is the kind of info i’m glad more people get to learn about different eras of the TCG it’s my favorite part of the card game!

Clefable is slept on. 80HP and one energy to do your best move against you is no joke.

@yingmustang67

Ай бұрын

Clefable is banned, also one of my EVIL decks. Only the OG player like myself, played Clefable again super strong pokemon with there 3 to 4 energy with only 1 energy metronoom attack and without discarding any side damaging effects. So strong and banned pokemon!

Rain dance Blastoise is the vintage deck I'm currently making. It's gonna be great.

You can really tell that the Pokémon TCG was something that WOTC worked on in their spare time, and that they put their energy into Magic instead. Between Energy Removal, Gust of Wind, Oak, Computer Search the list goes on... It ended up being a broken game in which stall was utterly overpowered, and which was a terrible representation of the mechanics of Pokémon, since evolved Pokémon were so underpowered.

@fulgenzio89

3 ай бұрын

exactly, and also the type chart was pretty bad. I know that Psychic type also represented Ghost but considering there were only 3 Ghosts it didn't make much sense that Psychics were weak to themselves and all Normals resisted Psychic... Also flying type resisting rock type because it was fighting when Moltres or Articuno were 4x weak to rock...

@DarkeLourd

3 ай бұрын

I don't think WotC designed the cards, they just printed them. And it's worth considering the fact that the Pokemon TCG's English debut was happening around the same time as Urza's Saga. WotC wasn't exactly making the most balanced version of Magic at the time either.

@apocrypha5363

3 ай бұрын

@@DarkeLourd ah, okay. I always assumed that was the reason why the original run of the Pokémon TCG was so broken - that it was made by a company whose attentions were understandably elsewhere, on their own IPs. Especially since the WOTC era ended with the atrocious e-Reader era in which there were 3 sets in a row with essentially no playable cards... I figured the Pokémon company grabbed control out of desperation after that 😆

@staxstix

3 ай бұрын

@@fulgenzio89 But this very much based on the view of the Gameboy games mechanics (like Articuno and Moltres being 4x rock weak). It's true that the anime also had general strength/weakness systems, but more based on nature and never as formulaic as the gameboy games. I really like that the card game had different mechanics and gave a different character and feel to the pokemon. I even think this was one of its biggest strengths: To make you see pokemon and types in a different and fresh light. Pokemon that sucked in the games could be strong here, and vice versa, while still maintaining the overall flavor of the pokemon. Other than that, pokemon tcg was always designed for kids and therefore never supposed to be really deep (e.g. coin flips instantly disqualify it for true competitiveness). For how simple the card game was designed, I think it's surprisingly fun and interactive.

That Venusaur and Exxegutor combo with Energy Trans. Man perfection

Ofcours I still have my Mukdeck, sometimes to trol other deck that highly counted on the Pokemon powers! Good old times....❤

Venusaur, my beloved.

Im curious to see à top 10 of all best cards of gym series ( gym heroes and gym challenge)

Gonna be surprised if Blastoise isn't on this list, given that it made your list of "powerful poke powers from the first sets"

@christianbell8347

3 ай бұрын

He's not on it. 😭

@azuredragoon2054

3 ай бұрын

@@christianbell8347 Blastoise is number 2 here. Did you watch the same video?

@christianbell8347

3 ай бұрын

@@azuredragoon2054 it's possible we watched a different video, yes.

A lot of early competitive tcg players actually opted for dragonaire because it was faster to get out into play and pairing it into a drain deck with energy removals was devasting in the early game.

i'm actually plaing Rain Dance in the old GBC game right now. It's very powerful since you can start with a blastoise deck, get some very powerful water mons like more of the blastoise family, gyarados and laptras. plus Articuno of course.

We really need a vintage edison Format.

Even since I've found this log and hearing all the praises Blastoise received, I was sure it would be number 1. But after hearing Wigglytuff's chapter, holy crap that card was so good.

I'd be very curious to know what the "honorable mentions" would have been for this list - Dragonair, Exeggutor, Clefable, Gyarados, (Fossil) Haunter (as someone else mentioned in the comments)... They all feel like they could make some claim to being up in the running for this list, IMO.

Lets do the WAVE!!! Ofcours that deck I also played!

I love how you pronounce "TCG" makes me smile every time. Keep up the amazing content!

Do you know if there is a way to play this old format on a video game?

@icefiredragon94

3 ай бұрын

You can emulate Pokemon TCG 2 for the gbc! It's a japan only release that's fan translated that can be good to experience early team rocket format

Top 10 competitive promo cards

I am surprised Golduck did not make the cut. I figured a Pokémon that can remove energy would be high value.

@RinaShinomiyaVal

3 ай бұрын

Energy Removal the Trainer card is much more efficent to use. That and Super Energy Removal due to Rain Dance Blastoise. The need for Golduck and Poliwrath's Energy denial attacks are made redundant. Better to use Trainers to remove Energies and use Waters to do big damage.

@Loozar402

3 ай бұрын

The cost for Golduck’s Hyper Beam means that it’s always going to take three turns to set it up, which is a pretty big downside. No chance of cheating the cost early like Dragonair who can get its Hyper Beam set up in just two turns with Double Colorless Energy. I also feel like Golduck is a little overshadowed by Psyduck since Headache turning off the most power card type in WOTC era PTCG is huge.

Surely all these cards in the wotc era, compared to the today standard are on another level but we have to consider also the different format where you can really use them, for example: Aerodactyl has one of the biggest power in the game but if you play it in base fossil meta, it's sucks so bad cuz Scyther is everywhere Muk, in base fossil sucks too but in Rocket LC format is one of the strongest meta cards and so on But surely, i repeat, without the format context yeah, old cards sometimes were just too broken

I would rather use a Dragonair with Hyper Beam that consistently removes one energy from my opponent than have a Dragonite with 20 more HP and an inconsistent attack.

Destiny Bond, Freeze dry, psyshock… how many pokemon moves were card game moves first

I hate that Wigglytuff is num1 due to I'm a Wigglytuff deck main. Was at least not the most common in tournaments orrr not the most common in early tournaments?

i remember dewgong being.a powerhouse

Weirds me out that nobody ever mentions Tentacool in Damage Swap decks, as its Cowardice ability lets you recover your damage counters without using a trainer card.

@van_lichenstein8171

Ай бұрын

How does cowardice work? Tantacool has a free retreat cost anyway so not sure how this power is used?

@exeledusprince9165

Ай бұрын

@@van_lichenstein8171 damage swap is a deck based on moving damage counters around to prevent Knockouts or to keep more favorable pokemon healthy. Tentacool has the Cowardice ability. During a turn where Tentacool isnt put into play, you can return it to your hand. This clears all the damage counters on it. You just put it down, and next turn you can return it to the hand. Since Tentacool has 30 HP, it can hold 2 damage counters. If you properly bench it and get it ready, each copy can heal up to 40 HP. It can be very useful against nearly every deck, even Energy Absorption if you use Mr. Mime. Combined with Mr. Mime's invisible barrier ability, you can heal Mr. Mime for free every turn since it can only ever take 20 HP of damage at once.

@exeledusprince9165

Ай бұрын

@@van_lichenstein8171 cowardice lets you load damage counters on it on the bench, then return it to the hand, which removes them from the board. If you have a couple of them you can recover 20-40 HP per copy of Tentacool every turn.

@van_lichenstein8171

Ай бұрын

@@exeledusprince9165 oh ok! Thanks for the info! I’ll add him to my team next game for a test run!

Is that hirumadex?

Wigglytuff, Dragonite, Dark Dragonite, Fearow, literally the backbone of my old colorless deck back when i played at WOTC. Deck never lost, and even had other kids ask me to not use that deck. Probably couldnt build something like that now, but still was the steongest deck i made. Miss those days lol

Video idea: Pokemon that weren't good in the eary formats but became better or the oppo

@zacherytaylor

3 ай бұрын

Opposite

Iv been playing the old gameboy game. And dragonair hyper beam that removes energy is OP in that game. Wish that card could make a cool teck list.

While kids were hyping Charizard I was hyping Blastoise. Rain Dance won me so many games

@yingmustang67

Ай бұрын

And then I came to a haymaker deck with electrobuz and Scyther within.............😅

@Hayato0373

Ай бұрын

@@yingmustang67 you know it was a struggle. But there were some wins if i got ahead early game.

@yingmustang67

Ай бұрын

@@Hayato0373 I know it was then a struggle and the one who beat me was one my best friends and still to day after 25 years, we starting to play the new pokemon TCG.

Arcanine, one of my favo fire pokemon, I played him with one steel energy. You hit your opponent with 70 en hit yourself with only 10! Why steel energy by non steel pokemon increases your strength by 10, so hitting yourself is only 20, and the steel energy absorbs also 10!

18 minutes and 18 likes. Very high rate

i want a second chance in life and only be apart of pokemon ='(

I’m surprised Charizard didn’t make the list

@DanTheMan33088

3 ай бұрын

As much as I love it, it's not that amazing, considering you have to discard 2 energy cards for it to attack, and there aren't many ways to quickly attach energy to it. Yeah, it's a very iconic card, but it's not as powerful as many people think it is

@0znerEighth

3 ай бұрын

Unfortunately for Charizard, its attack was rather slow - discarding 2 energies in order to use - and also wouldn't KO the ever present Chansey without two PlusPower. Zard can't really compete.

@MarioMastar

3 ай бұрын

@@0znerEighthIt's the Rampardos theorem where in a turn based game, overkill is just wasted damage. Most of the best pokemon only needed to deal around 70 damage, and if lower, the range was 40-60 to 2hit KO most pokemon. 60 being the sweet spot. Any more than 80 was just icing on the cake but often came with large costs. In Charizard's case, it effectively has a worse version of Truant as the fastest way to power it up is 2 double colorless energies, so that's one 100 damage attack every 3 turns.... a worse rate than just sticking to a 40 damage attack 3 times or about as good as a 30 damage attack with poison 3 turns in a row. So yeah...mathematically, Charizard's kind of worse than Charmeleon. It also has no synergy with other pokemon since the only Pokemon powers that can move energy cards do so with thier own type, so no Venusaur stuff to have a pool of grass energies to give Charizard fodder (not that it'd be good to waste 4 turns of energy for 100 damage), and Blastoise can't help Charizard stack unlimited water energies cause it only affects water types (and again...wasting 4 energies per attack is a huge waste since again, a 40 damage move every turn outpaces it without a downside). Charizard can probably finish a game with a big play though, but it might as well end the game with Explosion like Chansey does.

@zak0917

3 ай бұрын

Base set Charizard is extremely weak unfortunately. Sure it picks up one hit kills but needing to eat 2 energies on a 4 energy attack while energy removal is at 4 in every deck is... bad. Not even mentioning how slow stage 2s are in general. It's ok because TCPi has overcompensated since

Interesting viewpoint on how the first three sets(Base, _Jungle_ & _Fossil_ ) are what you consider "classic" Pokémon TCG.

The lack of best mon exeggutor is appalling.

No Charizard? Woow. Im playing Charizard when i'm a kid. And my win rate was really high. I'm always think i played the best evolution Pokémon 😅.

@alexnas9634

3 ай бұрын

it was too inconsistent to be viable, Raindance totally shuts down the deck because you can hit for 1 hit kos

@RinaShinomiyaVal

3 ай бұрын

Base set Charizard was always BAD. In gameplay. Its only worth money due to its iconic status

@icefiredragon94

3 ай бұрын

It doesn't circumvent the once per turn energy limit with its ability like the other starter stage 2s so it was slow in a type meant to be hyper aggro

Best GB TCG decks?

Can we see what where the worst decks list?

But dodrio didn't get used for some reason 😂

Hold on. How did Dragonite make the list but not Clefable? Dragonite being a Stage 2 and not having a reliable attack didn't make it viable at all. Fossil Haunter and Gengar saw more usage than regular Dragonite did. And none of this even factors in the Team Rocket and Gym sets, which gave us Dark Vileplume and Brock's Ninetales.

No Charizard? My 12-year-old me is sad.

i think blastoise is better than wigglytuff, being weak to fighting is so bad

@RinaShinomiyaVal

3 ай бұрын

You can partner Jungle Scyther with it. Both synergize with any Basic Energy attach + DCE. In this case, Grass. Scyther covers the Fighting issue and has Free Retreat.

@yuumijungle548

3 ай бұрын

@@RinaShinomiyaVal i know but that doesnt change the fact that hitmonchan plus gust of wind is a one shot, plus you can just revenge kill it either way

could you please talk a little slower in your videos? I love your work but as a non-native english speaker I find very difficult to follow you on some mechanics while you speak :-S

@cadekachelmeier7251

3 ай бұрын

You can always hit the gear icon and change the playback speed to 0.75x.

@DavideBattisti

3 ай бұрын

@@cadekachelmeier7251 Thank you! I didn't know this feature :)

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