TWO SLIGHT GOOFS IN THE BEGINNING. Psyduck Evo and magnemite Evo are supposed to say MIDDLE EVOLUTION and NOT pre evolution.

@ianhardy9375

7 күн бұрын

Actually, it was originally 300 before it was cut down to 190 but only 151 was decided

@kimolingo

7 күн бұрын

@@ianhardy9375 250-300 planned originally, 190 made and put into the games code

@ianhardy9375

7 күн бұрын

@@kimolingo sounds about right

@ianhardy9375

13 сағат бұрын

You should do cut pokemon for gen 2

@kimolingo

9 сағат бұрын

@@ianhardy9375I will! :)

Cubone and Marowak absolutely still deserve that final evo. It locks in the kanga connection, its a terrific design and it rounds out the line's "story" as it were

@dominicmoisant8393

8 күн бұрын

Agree

@reitairue2073

4 күн бұрын

No, it makes absolutely no sense for cubone to have the skull already.... I think it's better thinking that the cubone marowak line is what happens when baby kangaskhan loses his mom too soon.

@natesamadhi33

2 күн бұрын

@@reitairue2073 agreed

I love that early Pokemon had really creative names like Deer, Elephant, and Seel

@GaryNac

Күн бұрын

At least we do got Persian and at least we do have a pokemon named Seel.

Gorochu would work really well as mega or form change. A regional variant of Raichu or a split evo could work to but it really does look like a upgrade/evo of Raichu.

@DeveusBelkan

8 күн бұрын

I was thinking a regional variant that is Electric/Fighting type. Using it's powerful tail to fight with and explaining why Pikachu has a higher physical attack stat compared to the special stat.

@chahinebourenane6291

2 күн бұрын

I want him so much!

I'm wondering if maybe the idea for Kotora and Raitora wasn't abandoned completely, instead becoming the basis for a bigger electric cat - Raikou.

@handsoaphandsoap

8 күн бұрын

They were probably cut the first time just for time or space or something and then revisited for Gen 2, but again cut once they conceptualized the legendary beasts

@kimolingo

8 күн бұрын

This is very possible!

@LGThatcher

7 күн бұрын

They coexist with early Raikou in the gen 2 betas. Though Raikou looked different then.

@OfficialSnyd

2 күн бұрын

They were in the gen 2 beta so they got shelved twice

@TalasDD

2 күн бұрын

this would also suggest that the legendary beast of gold silver and cristal might have had an evolution line beside the idea that they are effects of revived eeveelutions.

i want gorochu. WE WERE ROBBED.

@Dawg347

Күн бұрын

Unless raichu gets a mega we ain’t getting it unfortunately.

@TiasVsEverything

Күн бұрын

They should have made it a Paradox mon. :/

@misteral9045

19 сағат бұрын

A Pokemon x Mortal Combat crossover would be amazing, they're both fighting games, it could work.

@Dawg347

17 сағат бұрын

@@misteral9045 we have pokken

They said Gorochu got cut for balance reasons. Gen 1 does not have any 3rd stage electric types. Maybe they were worried that electric types were too powerful, or that Zapdos was enough.

@MeanderingSlacker

8 күн бұрын

Give the player access to an electric type for misty if they're lucky or if they get stuck griding viridian forest for Brock with a Charmander, so they don't get frustrated and quit at misty. Don't give them a grass type yet, that comes north of misty, assuming they grind, and we want the player to get a reduction in difficulty, not a change to easy mode. Then don't teach them that it can evolve until stone evolutions are introduced with electric types at Surge. We also want the charmander trainers to get a weakness if they over leveled by the time they reach surge by ignoring the grass type and the electric type grinds.

@dominicmoisant8393

8 күн бұрын

You can get oddish or bellsprout above Cerulean without fighting Misty

@sebastianluna4608

2 күн бұрын

Using balance as a reason for any decision in Gen 1 is a mood.

@bobbybobstar1496

2 күн бұрын

​@@MeanderingSlackerif you had to grind to beat misty you shouldn't be playing the game regardless who you started with .

@MeanderingSlacker

2 күн бұрын

@@bobbybobstar1496 The times were different in the 90's, the children were small and stupid. The only thing we knew was dragon go fire.

Wild to me they didn’t revisit Omega when they came up with the Paradox Pokemon. Just make it a robot Kangaskhan from the future and have its lore be that it was supposedly created to be a robotic nanny.

edited like a true magician, such a shame some of these never made the cut when they looked so promising. FreeZeti, Kotora & the GOAT Crocky ofc

honestly even with these leaks im still surprised just the fact that gengar was the only planned ghost type. Honestly i wouldve preferred if blastoise was its own line if i had to be honest since being the squirtle line ending with blastoise has always felt really weird and i wouldve loved to see wartortle’s ears and tails be more expanded since seeing it just turn into cat ears and a basic tail has been a bit dissapointing for me also kottorra shouldve been in the game such a loss

@Ezullof

2 күн бұрын

It's because the gengar line was really supposed to be ghosts, and not necessarily a whole type. Similar story with the dragon type. It was designed to be unique.

@berond2118

2 күн бұрын

@@Ezullof Makes sense for gengar but honestly the dragon really did seem it was meant for some scrapped mons and even for others

I've seen some of these designs, of course, but never saw anything quite so well presented as this. I think about half of these were new to me, as well. I appreciate you putting this together!

@kimolingo

8 күн бұрын

Thank you so much! I'm very glad you enjoyed it!

That thumbnail reminds me of one of those stroke simulation photos where everything looks eerily familiar but you can’t actually recognize anything

@kimolingo

2 күн бұрын

This is going on the list for best comments I've seen on my videos

That magnimite pre evolution better chill 😅😂🍑

It's worth looking in to Guaoon being reused as Tyranitar

I read from dr lava with newer translation that rhydon, lapras & clafairy are the first 3 pokemon ever designed & other sources that basically say pokemon were originally kaijus & more monster like

@kimolingo

2 күн бұрын

Dr.Lava has done an INCREDIBLE job in covering lost pokemon content, anything you read from him is very credible

Incredible how the art based on the Deer seems like a fusion of hitmonlee, kangaskhan, smearlgle, stantler...

I love some of these old designs. They're adorable.

Why do I like that Zubat pre evolution so much lol

Deer pokemon named deer, elephant pokemon named elephant... How creative xD Great video🎉

@oranjaglad8648

8 күн бұрын

Pretty sure those were placeholder names for them

@kappaprimus

8 күн бұрын

@@oranjaglad8648 yeahh, but we had a "seel" so I won't be too surprised

@roshamaanevans8718

3 күн бұрын

I mean it's the same Gen that made seel and dewgong

@wheresmymuffins

2 күн бұрын

I agree with the other comments pointing out them likely being placeholders, but it's also worth noting that the Japanese names are a lot more literal: Moltres' JP name literally just a transliteration of the English word "Fire," Zapdos' is "Thunder," Chansey's is "Lucky," Blissey's is "Happiness," etc. And then there are ones like Charmander's JP name, Hitokage, which can be literally translated as "Fire Lizard" but usually translates simply as "Salamander," a reference to European cultural beliefs around the real-life amphibians being fire spirits or something similar.

@Skullhawk13

Сағат бұрын

@@oranjaglad8648Krabby is legit just crab in Japan

Crocky, more like cracky.

I wish gorochu was in the games, I love it so much

Great video! This video has some tidbits ive never heard of. And great editing!

@kimolingo

9 күн бұрын

Thank you so much!

Love the banjo Kazooie music, didn’t realize how much I needed the crossover of my two favorite franchises 🥲

Lol before I clicked on the video I for some reason thought it was going to be a video of all the gen 1 pokemon that could learn Cut. I'm faded

Barunda might later on having inspired Drifloon as well. Kotora line is 100% in the game now. Just look at the stripes on its back and compare those with the Litten line - exactly the same Look at the tail and the stripes compared to the Litten line - exactly the same.

@Venemofthe888

2 күн бұрын

Lost weight and changed type

If they expand on Paradox Pokemon in later gens it would be cool to see some of these designs brought back.

Some of these cut Pokémon are pretty cool. Sad they didn't make it in.

I’m pretty sure Crocky has seen some sh!t!

those last two that you mentioned (evolved wartortle/pre-evolved blastoise) is actually really good for explaining how some of these cut mons did eventually make it into the games, just in different ways; for example, the Kotora/Raitora line very clearly serves as design inspiration for Alolan mewoth/persian, and was probably cut after being redisigned into Raichu (this would also explain why the first 2 evolutions were still in the gen 2 demo files but the 3rd is missing). The "chinese water dragon" line imo might've been an early iteration of the bulbasaur line, especially looking at that first back sprite, which seems like it has the line's iconic flowebud on its back (and maybe even explains the "-saur" suffix when most people agree the line looks more froglike). Its also likely that Tyranitar (in addition to Subby) was developed from Gyaoon, esp given Game Freak has made at least 3 different mecha/robot forms of it, similar to Omega.

Wowee! This video blew up for you! I think I heard it said that they had gen 2 Pokémon but couldn't fit them in the first set of games. This video pretty much confirms that. Congrats! I wish you continued success.

@kimolingo

2 күн бұрын

Thank you so much! It's definitely doing much better than anticipated, and YES, there are a ton of cut pokemon, and eve. More to come in gen 2!

I remember reading a videogame magazine back then, before Gold and Silver were released, that had concept art for some of the new Pokémon. It was a magical time.

I kind of like the idea of ponyta first being a normal horse. That then turns into fire type. It captures a unique sense of wonder. You see this regular horse that most people would and often do just walk by but for those who tame it are graced with a beautiful and 'rare' fire horse. I personally think that would have definitely make that evolution line stand out against all the other pokemon both back then and now.

There was a lot of food left on the table in this video, but good job. I'm sure there are younger folks who dont know much about gen1 stuff so its informative for them 👍🏾

More respect to the artists of Pokémon. Imagine making 200+ designs for them to cut over 50 of them.

I have always thought Gayoon became Tyranitar. It's supposed prevo has Larvitar vibes as well.

gorochu could have been mega-raichu in another timeline

I don't mind the limited information. This video was very interesting.

These are better than most of the new designs.

Gayoon probably became Tyranitar

Video starts at 2:20

Maybe the third evolution of the electric tiger was cut from Gen 2 because of Raikou, perhaps they cut the third evolution (and probably the entire line) because it would be too similar to Raikou.

Let's face it. Kotora, and Gorochu would both be terrible in modern pokemon. Back before the special split, they would be great. But physical electric types are terrible

@ceulgai2817

8 күн бұрын

Physical Electric types were terrible back then too

@thefreshvince879

17 сағат бұрын

@ceulgai2817 they literally did not exist. Electric is a special type and they all are special attackers from gen 1-3

@ceulgai2817

15 сағат бұрын

@@thefreshvince879 Raichu is a physical Electric type. What are you on?

@thefreshvince879

7 сағат бұрын

@@ceulgai2817 i think you need to google things before you post them. Raichu has 90 attack and 90 special attack. He has always been a mixed attacker. You do realize that physical electric moves did not exist until gen 4? His attack stat was mainly used for normal moves or dig/irontail.

honestly i have to wonder if the blastoise and wartortle are just beta back sprites they just look 2 much like the ones in the game especially the wartortle one

This editing is a true 2024 video quality ✨

Love this art style. Pokémon designs have been radically changed but this is cute. ❤

The evolved line of warturtle is sick

@bubbles5306

16 сағат бұрын

I've never been a fan of Blastoise, so that evo looks so much more fitting imo and I'm sad it's not the real one :(

@NHZMusic

12 сағат бұрын

@@bubbles5306 same

I feel like Gorochu could be a split evolution of Pikachu. Could be like a special item or maybe even a new signature move that Pikachu learns. I'm thinking electric/dark typing fits it well 👍

I wonder if Gyaoon and it's pre evolution became either larvitar and tyranitar. It also looks like nidoking and Nidoqueen too

I kinda want the baby Vulpix and Ponyta so cute

A lot of cuts came through in Johto tho. Cracky.😂

as much as I wished we got 190 pokemon for gen 1,I know gameboy was very,very,very limited,Iso 'm thankful 151 was possible for a device that could barely hold that much memory,it does make me wonder what pokemon would be like if they managed to figure out to give us all 190 pokemon though,how much different would it be? would we still have the same pokemon from other gens or would they have been the ones that were cut? or what if they never scrapped or cut any pokemon? then how many would we have?

Puchikoon would've done numbers

I don't remember where I read it, but in an article or a video or something I remember someone saying some pokemon were Ganna be based on Mario monsters so, yeah that was most likely a cheep cheep.

What if every Gen had 1,000 unique species? Including scrapped Pokemon like Gorochu. Along with catchable Mythicals(which requires special items like the GS Ball and Azure Flute to encounter them). Had it not been for cartridge limitations. But the Pokedex always had a 150-Entry limit(Dunbar's Number; which is when a human brain can only remember 150 friends at once)? So that every player has a unique collection. Also if both the awards ceremonies and the Professor battles were unlocked after showing them our completed 150 Pokedexes? How'd the series have been like? How'd you all have liked it in that reality?

Early designs of Politoed from the gen 2 scratchpads show a front sprite with a topknot and red cheeks like the two sumo frogs in the gen 1 beta. I'm guessing it was a blastoise-like situation where one line was cut because there was already a frog line. That said, I don't think any of their DNA survives in the current politoed design.

i hope we get baby meowth someday. buddy is adorable

Jynx always gets shatted on. First they cut the male counterpart. Then they cut it's final form im gen 4 and the mega in gen 5.

is there a rom that has these as realized creatures?

As someone trying to no starter run crystal: i would loved kotura to be in gen 2

I discovered some pokemons here!

is the squid one the pokemon that bites on to slowpokes tail?

After 25 years, still waiting for Gorochu and the Kurusu line 😔

Wasn’t Gorochu shown in one of the pokemon Manga as well?

9:36 Crocky? More like Cracky. Homie is wired

Let👏Gyaoon👏come👏back👏

The 2 you forgot look more like alternative sprites for wartortle and blastoise

I always presumed cut Pokemon went extinct between planning and release. like what is happening to lapras.

I think gayoon and its prevo became the tyranitar line. I believe the prevo and gayoon became the inspiration for larvitar and tyranitar

I need some Puchikoon right now. Who up?

Kotora for Gen 11, you cowards!

@nazeersadek6705

8 күн бұрын

Why 11 I want it for gen 10 lol

13:02 eu queria muito que esse bicho existisse velho, muito bom esse daí, n sei pq não foi lançado

my man koji did not deserve that 💀

Well Atsuko Nishida... I like my pokemon to evolve, that's what makes it fun for me. So I would rather have had pokemon evolve twice (is the best part) than more different ones alltogether.

Maybe we could get a Paradox Raichu that looks like Gorochu

Blastoise not being canon blows my mind.. Get it?

Barunda sprite looks creepy af

When you said he single handedly put mew in the games without Nintendos knowledge, my body inadvertently started bowing like a Muslim prayer.

More like magthickmite

I NEED Korora in my life😻⚡️🐅

Pretty sure I used Oddish

The cut Pokémon of Gen 1 (basically the entire Dex of Gold & Silver) I'm sorry Gen 2 is perfect, put down the pitchforks people!

We want the Kotora Line 🩷

What about Wolfman?

Snorlax based off a real dude? lol

I think Kotora and its evolutions were reused for Spheal and its kin.

@Ninja1Ninja2

2 күн бұрын

and then the idea of a 3 stage electric cat became shinx

These look way better than modern designs. If they’ve gotten so lazy then why not just use these. There were plenty good tossed ideas

@triplea4906

Күн бұрын

womp womp

Free my boy Zeti 🥶

#JusticeForGorochu

"one of the FIRST Pokemon EVERR MAADE..." 😐

(Banjo Kazooie) ♥️ 🎵🎶🎵🎶🎵🎶

Make Gorochu Great Again

Gorochu should be in gen 10

Freezeti would have been a better option to include in the games instead of Jynk and it wouldn’t have caused controversy

@slademacdonald3079

2 күн бұрын

Idk I can still see some big blackface minstrel 'lips' on Freezeti...

The fact they keeped Jynx over some of these ...

@starzinho6416

8 күн бұрын

Not too much on Jynx. She's a queen

Yooooooooo early af

God I thought the music in the background playing was Dr. Robotnik’s theme from Adventures Of Sonic The Hedgehog

Jaggu beats sharpedo

Thid need to be made into a game 😂no woder why palworld is better just give the world what they want if this was made into a game pokemon would reigns supreme shid and make another pokemon stadium too wtf

Gold silver is gen 2 not gen 1. So the spaceworld demo stuff isn't really helpful

I'll gladly trade Gen 3 for these cut Pokemon. The Pokemon community agrees