TIG Welding Technique: Walking the Cup
As we continue our series on tig welding technique, we look at the how to walk the cup. Walking the cup is often misused, because welders want to achieve the "cool factor" from the resulting weld bead. However, walking the cup has a real purpose and is meant for specific applications.
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It’s a privilege to have two professional teachers in one video 🙏👏👏👏
When I first saw walking the cup it looked easy enough but when I started practicing with my everlast I realized getting even ripples in the weld took a lot of practice.
My boyfriend and his buddy are welders and I feel like their speaking in some sort of Alien language when speaking of all the terms and Techniques, this channel really helped me understand and it's actually interesting. Thanks
@Welddotcom
8 жыл бұрын
always a pleasure
@tjcampbell5609
8 жыл бұрын
do you no any good tig welders in texas
@sanaullhamz1562
8 жыл бұрын
nice
@squidVicious442
7 жыл бұрын
what kind of welder? do u see him alot? im about to go back to school for welding in about a week. iv been reading alot and it looks like they travel alot and as dumb as it is im kind of worried about how its going to effect my chances at a normal relationship with my girlfreind
@squidVicious442
7 жыл бұрын
what kind of welder? do u see him alot? im about to go back to school for welding in about a week. iv been reading alot and it looks like they travel alot and as dumb as it is im kind of worried about how its going to effect my chances at a normal relationship with my girlfreind
Eurika! At last a YT instructional welding video, that contains a genuinely skilled/experirienced and knowledge welder and not a 'Charlatan Chancer' or an enthusiastic. I've been in the welding industry since 1985 and I know a fellow craftsman when I see or hear one talk of his craft. Bravo, bravo. Any newbies to welding need to watch and listen to this guy cos ' He knows his onions'👍
this isnt welding this is art
@jonathancouch7779
6 жыл бұрын
Cool art
@SEBAINSTINCT2
5 жыл бұрын
search on instagram mattiabross
I miss Bob so much on this channel, man's a natural teacher :(
ive been a plastics fabricator for about 20 years, learnt to braze, oxy, arc and mig weld in high school, but that was 25 years ago. so while i can weld plastic 5 ways, id probably blow myself up lighting up an oxy rig now. just wanted to say how cool it is to see how the other half live. these videos are quality... just like the welds. cheers
Im a beginner welder and been at it for 5/6 months in a Tech School in PR. Had to stop due to hurricane Maria for about 4 months into it. Theory has been crap but actual welding i can say they(proffesors) have done an awsome great job but theory based just lost so much time in the learning process that we just lost it. But thanx to this and other multiple channels ive been getting up o date. So thank u so much!
this is very informative. best i've seen. i did some tig 2 welding courses but the dutch NIL never learned me this. The teacher never wanted to tell the fine secrets of welding. i stopped welding because the lack of welding information they gave me. i really miss the smell of hot argon. thank you,
Excellent video. Very much enjoyed Bob's take on walking the cup. Now here's a welder that not only can talk the talk but has defiantly walked the walk or in this case walked the cup. Please invite him back as often as possible. Ed K. Cleve. Oh.
Amazing looking weld's....thank you for sharing !
Learned so much. I will try tomorrow! Excited!!!
@bbw4lyf
4 жыл бұрын
Female welder 😍😩
wow . very helpful ! ilove weld.com every night before i sleep i always watching im a fabricator and also fullwelder but only stick welding im very interested to learn more thankyou . godbless
Now this was a video! Thank you men for this excellent tutorial. I learned a ton!
Thanks to you both for a very helpful demo
Great demo - and super pretty beads too. :)
hi am bob from france am an electrode welder your video helps me alot to weld in tig prosses (merci mr tig and god blessyou)
really wish to walk the cup like u guys.thanks
Noticed the USMC on your hood Bob. Thank you for your Service and willingness to share your knowledge.
I really need to work on my walking the cup with my powertig. Need more hood time.
His name is Mr. Tig? Wow, what a coincidence that he ended up being a welder.
@pandarenBrewmaster62
7 жыл бұрын
Where I used to work, there was a welder from Eritrea, and his name was Tewelde!
@David.lovesU
6 жыл бұрын
JohnnyRottenest Ever heard of Lonzo Ball? Player for the lakers
@antoniolockett1809
6 жыл бұрын
There was a guy I worked with as an aircraft mechanic whose last name was pilot... I think people with certain last names go for those jobs or something close to it on purpose...
@stockloc
6 жыл бұрын
pandarenBrewmaster62 Was his first name Ivan?
@texaspipeliner9432
5 жыл бұрын
You're not serious! Are you?
Thank you. sharp men showing us how to.
Thanks for posting...New to welding just a few projects done...not great....but hope to be proficient someday....Best to ya's!
@dhirendramaharaj9407
5 жыл бұрын
GASOLINE JUNKIE you need to find somebody who is willing to teach you from scratch step by step ...and explain why certain welds are performed they manner in which they are ...all the best bro ☺👍
and yet again I learn more from youtube than the years spent in school .
absolutely beautiful welds there!!
Great looking welds, great technique, would love to see two or even three filler rods though!
YES! Thank you so much, for all of the awesome instructional content. I've been wishing to begin learning to weld for nearly thirty years. To this day, I've never laid my hands onto any type of welding outfit, but I've been searching out high quality content like yours, for the past two or three years, trying to become acquainted with the tools, components, and nomenclature of the welding trade. Of course it's probably not possible to learn everything I would need to learn to begin welding, but it's an invaluable primer to prepare one for the day when one finally has a chance to begin a welding course, or even just going out and buying a welder and going to it in their home workshop. I get really excited while watching these type of videos, but especially when it's produced by such talented welders and instructors. Your videos are top quality professional presentations, and I really love watching them. I just discovered your channel and subscribed to it about two weeks ago, and already I've learned a great deal from you guys. I have to agree with that last post, that those are some darn pretty welds you laid down with that cup walking technique. I can hardly wait to get back home to my shop in the States so that I can begin putting my hands on a welding outfit and getting busy. My shop already has a wiring circuit for a welder, I think it must be a 240V circuit, because it's clearly not in a location where you could put a clothes washer or dryer, which would be 220V, unless I'm mistaken? Thanks again for the effort and commitment that you guys have put into developing this fantastic channel and educational content. Have a great new year!
Son muy buenos videos Los felicito!!
great work and advice
Mr Tig and Bob good video and explanation!
thank you Mr tig~~ this video slove a big question about making a beautiful pass.
@Welddotcom
8 жыл бұрын
+Gina Forest Always glad to help
@ginaforest3444
8 жыл бұрын
+Weld.com A Big fan from far far far away 🙆
Semper Fidelis Bob.
@dragontalontsiawd
3 жыл бұрын
Semper Fi boss man Bob he's the reason why I came to comment on this channel. I was watching this on my TV, and saw his hood and saw the EGA, I'm retired front the Corps, but what about Bob?! Where did he go? What happened?
Two masters in da weldind house!👍
i welded steam piping for 30 years. that was cool you know your shit. i know the codes dont like running more then one rod . i ve ran as many as six. while walking the cup, on the cover pass. i like to think of it as rolling the barrel light touch is very important. never thought about pulling down slightly makes sence. great video.
🔥Always learning valuable information🔥
Mr.tig, I am curious to see if you can walk the cup around a 1/2" sch 40 buttweld.
Good seam.
Its just years of experience, good job.
This is my fifth time watching this and I always wonder one thing. What lens do you guys use for the arc shots? The clarity of the arc and the surrounding area is amazing.
Tig weld is art
parabéns a vcs ...vídeos bons
my husband are welders his very exiting and proud if his got job for welding. his always talking bout his job to me and how bout the techniques of welder. dreams of my husband are welding under water
@plus315
7 жыл бұрын
Wow, that is just fantastic.
@airinlinlin5671
7 жыл бұрын
Plus 3 thanks... 😊
i'm from BRASIL...congratulations for working...i am welding too ..thanks
This is good info.. although it's worth being aware that it's not always acceptable, walking the cup can make scratches on the surface of the workpiece and for some employers/ customers can be rejected, in particular brushed or polished stainless surfaces. This technique definitely has its place and looks fantastic when it's done well like this.
We are starting Tig this Monday, I'm excited to learn another process and gain another feather in my hat. To all the welders out there be safe and lay sexy beads 🤘
Would absolutely love to learn how to weld. It would make me eligible for more work at my current job. I'm glad to see the amount of content on this channel for free. Definitely going to see if I can start a certification program at my local college once I'm not working as much.
My cup walking is more like a drunken stagger.
@kevinfrmkdz
8 жыл бұрын
tell me about it lol
@diegodelgado9764
4 жыл бұрын
You got the whiskey tungsten too
@derekhaydon4656
3 жыл бұрын
Don't walk the cup. LAZY WELDING. learn to weld with a steady hand. You cannot weld with the correct angles by touching cup on the platy.
@BileksChannel3820
3 жыл бұрын
To avoid slipping the cup, the angle position of the cup must consistent towards the welding material.
so good
good video
thanks Bob
God dang TIG is so clean! I do some flux core MIG welding and compared to this it is so messy (even though the welds look halfway decent after you clean out all the slag and brush it). What are the structural differences if any? I may have to start TIG'in! I do mostly projects for my Jeep such as roof rack and bumper hoop type stuff.
@Welddotcom
7 жыл бұрын
Takes a little longer, but for car parts it looks a lot nicer. Structurally it is better for that type of work too, because you can control the heat much better.
@itsthatchinkykid
7 жыл бұрын
Michael Kirst if you're doing welding for vehicles, definitely do tig. You'll get a gorgeous weld(if you're good) and also it's very clean. Make sure your skin is covered though, tig is much brighter and produce more UV rays due to no smoke production. It CAN get very technical tho.
@MrDaltonBousum
6 жыл бұрын
TIG is AWESOME. So, so clean. MIG is definitely a messy job.
@cooper38gold
6 жыл бұрын
With flux core it don't matter how good u are they are not gonna look pretty
I always called it "walking the dog" lol
@babynyxe4784
3 жыл бұрын
Omg joseph
Sim mestre uma bela aula de posicionamento de soldagem e qualidade de material como bocais lens e tungstênio amperagem também é fundamental no processo da soldagem obrigado pela orientação 🇧🇷🙏
this video helped me so much amazing video guys
@bobmoffatt4133
7 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that. Thanks.
Thanks
an interesting technique thank you for explaining , also the pattern the weld leaves reminds me vaguely of the belly of a cobra , kinda like their scale pattern
If I am doing an x-ray quality weld on pipe and don't have a foot pedal, I like to run my arc to the side and pull out up my filler rod if possible and then break the arc. Does not leave those ugly craters from the arc break, which in turns make less grinding for me. Just my 2 cents
@bobmoffatt4133
7 жыл бұрын
Very good tip.
@ze_german2921
5 жыл бұрын
Better yet, brake your arc on your filler wire. When your cappin, you don’t have a bevel anymore.
that was awesome to see that number 10 cup I'm guessing, just glide through the groove of that heavy wall
It is a wonderful welding Please also look at welding in Japan
I now have two Lincoln Electric Mig welders and two Tig. The Migs are HD 100 and the Mig 180. Esab seems like they give you more features like the auto for when the sitck out gets impossible for the Lincolns ? I only have limited control over that.
+Weld.com - Walk the Cup is somewhat more difficult to explain verbally, but here goes. When Welding you want to manipulate the Torch properly to produce a correct Weld. With Pipe Welding you "Walk the Cup" to move the Torch sideways and forward. The "walking" is sort of like walking on ice, you want to *slide* an extremely small amount forward *OR* backward *while* moving the Torch *forward* (the tiny sliding is IF you either walk too far or not far enough). You "walk" by rocking the Ceramic Cup sideways, the ceramic _grabs_ the steel similar to planting your foot on ice (so you don't slip) *and* you lift the other 'foot' (other side of the Cup, not _planted_ on the Pipe) eliminating friction (or physical contact) by rocking the Cup (one _foot_ on the ice, the other lifted up) and 'planting your foot' slightly further ahead - *with* 'micro-sliding' forwards *or* backwards to correct the forward Travel Speed. The sideways motion of the _walking_ is to accommodate the width of the Weld *IF* you choose to Weave instead of doing the entire Weld using Stringers (a straight, unweaved, Weld bead). It's a convenient *crutch*, that makes it easier to produce a quality Weld *and* happens to manipulate the Torch close to what you would have (when done properly, and with any 'micro-sliding' *necessary* - IE: Do not walk incorrectly or it (the Weld) won't be OK). For Experts to attempt: Don't walk, run. Assuming an entirely manual process of Welding (no 'PipeMaster' manipulator, but rotation by motor is OK) it *is* better to Weld all Stringers (same as the Root, it's a Stringer) and push the Wire (manually) the same as "Wirefeed TIG" - simply push forward on the Torch and *shove* the Wire in (like Soldering, just shove it in). After Root and Fill you likely want to Weave the Cap to make the Cap polished smooth, a Stringer Cap *is* acceptable but it should be *smooth* also - smoothness comes from cranking it (and Welding correctly). YT, Rob
the best!!!
it's a video ..& nice work
Good video, but wish you would've shown the video of the 2 stringer bead cap?
Rest the cup > Do figure of 8 > Pull backward while going forward. Got it! Thanks, guys.
question about the filler rod . Is there any movement of the filler rod as the tungsten moving towards it? .Or does filler rod stay stationary as it is being deposited in to weld puddle? thanks!
@bigman7293
7 жыл бұрын
j bones you have to move the end of the filler rod with the puddle and dip as you go.
@TheChronichalt
7 жыл бұрын
Just lay the wire for practice (Don't move it, just let pac man eat it), then once you get comfortable with your torch control, start feeding in wire to make a larger weld. Pause on your edges to fill the undercut.
@user-bh6ou4kc9q
7 жыл бұрын
Беспокойное сердце врача
me ajudou muito obrigado
Nice
I always like them hot passes boss always said give it a hot pass an cap it thanks for the tips from the guys over here in su county
Mad skills
I had a quick question. What amperage are you set at? I understand that amperage settings are probably dependent on the specs of the piece as well, but I'm curious as to what amperage you're running at.
Bob reminds very me of my old boss old time welder who knows his stuff and don't ever suggest anything other then how he does it not in a bad way just someone you need to pay attention to because his time is more valuable then any class you will ever pay for
i would like this man to teach me more about welding .... specifically tig welding ... looks interesting and his welds are really really amazing ..... respond to this pleasse
Strictly my own opinion as a 25yr welder who does alot of tig,mainly stainless pipe,I do not walk the cup ever.Ive always felt its a cheater technique for people with shaky hands. Nonetheless Bob is very knowledgeable&has taught me some valuable tips,many thanks!
Aside from welding, I just saw noticed the side of your helmet, Semper Fi
@dragontalontsiawd
3 жыл бұрын
Lol same here years later... Semper Fi boss man Bob
muy buenas las comparativas. buenas serian con las traducciones en español
A Very wise man🤙
I couldn't help but notice the emblem of my tribe on the side of his pipeliner hood. Is Bob a former Marine? Excellent videos, by the way. Thank you.
Hi there, i also do this with .08 wire with the mig.
wow nice
I need some serious help on this. Biggest issues are... How to start a plate where u can't walk at 1st? I try and free hand but without a place to prop I usually end up dunking tungsten. Then once I get going parts will flow smooth and others I stick,skip ahead or am just going side to side with no forward progress. Do u have any joints to practice on or any tips? Need to get this down for 6g Tig cert.. have asme ix in smaw now but need Tig to be employable.. help please
Say you're welding a fence or just 2 metals toghther. Do you want to do a root pass hot pass & the fillers? Or is it just one beed?
@Htxjoee
7 жыл бұрын
have*
@Welddotcom
7 жыл бұрын
your going to need to get a little more specific with your question, however, if you are repairing a fence post, assuming it is carbon steel, you would likely just want to do one pass with a complimentary filler metal.
@viceadmiralwingfutanthegra3274
7 жыл бұрын
Wrong moron. You need to run a 3/24 using the "up river" technique. Really you should use an upside down Up River but you dumbasses probably aren't that good.
@dirtyred9376
7 жыл бұрын
how long it takes to learn this
@viceadmiralwingfutanthegra3274
7 жыл бұрын
47 hours.
Bob is OG. I ain't studying this "Mr. TIG" character
nice
Is it possible to do this on 110 amps? No 220 in new garage and that's all im limited to until taxes. Could I slim it down to a 17th or 3/32 filler and use more passes? I need lots of practice and that's all I have for machine and power at moment
I see Bob has a Marine Corps sticker on his hood. Was he in? Love the vids!
@bobmoffatt4133
7 жыл бұрын
I was not. That is to honor my student who have though.
que potencia utilizan en la maquina de soldar para un espesor de 3/16" en hierro
good
hola muy bueno.
what kind of tig rig setup are you using. CK 17FV, 26FV? thank you. it's just the tig torch looks so small.
@Welddotcom
8 жыл бұрын
+balentine111 20 style TIG torch on a Miller Dynasty 300DX machine.
Good show Devil Dog, and thank you for your service too, was your M.O.S. a 1316 also?
@dragontalontsiawd
3 жыл бұрын
Nah bet me he was an 02 or something lol Semper Fi do or die Marines!!! I came just go comment on Bob's hood... Never saw it until now
Do you get a lot of trash in your welds with a snake skin wide weave bead? I’ve always ran them tight so I don’t fail.
Master
thank you weld.com i work in mig mag weld can you make video about mig mag weld and thank you very much
@bigman7293
7 жыл бұрын
mohamed kamel there's not much to MIG... just do a circle, C, whip pattern or stringer when you should and set the wire speed and voltage correctly.
I miss Mr Tig and Bob
Super
So easy
Sir how too used tig if first time. In how trader handle
Some say that the tig is born with a welding helmet !!
Can you give me any tips on how people get that figure 8 technique down when finishing off the cap? My root and fills rarely have any defects its just keeping the cap as pretty as possible. I think my main thing on the cap is not being consistent when weaving it.
@traceanson6975
7 жыл бұрын
Joel Argumedo just roll the cup like you would roll a 55 gallon barrel