How do we grow track and field?

@swellybelly5970

Ай бұрын

Add an edging sport to track and field

@Pingpongeditz1215

Ай бұрын

Edging??

@baguettelord9741

Ай бұрын

@@swellybelly5970 edging is a sport that focuses on the strength of your right hand while watching a video (e.g. Total Running Productions)

@swellybelly5970

Ай бұрын

@@Pingpongeditz1215 y e s

@garrysekelli6776

Ай бұрын

Stop being a fa and allow steroids in sports so that we can see faster times.

I know one thing, NBC's Olympic coverage and sob stories following athletes for 55 minutes, and then the event for 2 minutes isnt going to help. It's terrible!

We need to form two or three dedicated channels exclusively for track and field. Not just for main events, regional, ect but the daily updates ect.

@caseysmith544

Ай бұрын

On KZread a plan of having untelevised events on a World Athletics channel and World Athletics Channel 2 is a good idea and have some events people can't see outside of x country on TV/KZread TV non region locked as a great idea.

Honestly i feel like alot of people follow Running Productions ,this channel because it covers so much track and field events ,it anyone should be streaming events for all to see is this channel, that's my own personal opinion

@suhaasvemuri7980

Ай бұрын

This channel still isn't big enough for streaming large track and field events. I think NBC Sports would be a good channel to stream events on. They usually just post the track meets after they're done, but streaming them would be much better.

@GrAdeAjAmAicAn

Ай бұрын

@@suhaasvemuri7980 I disagree, this channel has more t&f enthusiasts therefore whenever the streams go live more of us would show up for the algo to push it out. NBC is like the "all you can eat" while TRP is like the steakhouse.

@Myrslokstok

Ай бұрын

Prefere it before OG!

@daddysharksharkshark3784

Ай бұрын

The only problem is, the title. Always the title(s)

@robertdaniels3029

Ай бұрын

Yes, somebody ( ESPN) should have been there...

To grow the sport, it’s really imperative that fans and ppl who may be interested in watching the meets actually are able to do so online without dealing with paywalls or delayed viewings of meets. I am a fan of the sport, yet I was frustrated with how the World Championship events weren’t available to watch on a platform like Hulu or KZread as the events were happening live. Track and field should have a deal with streaming platforms to stream the events live. Also, athletes need to be accessible to the fans by engaging with them to hold their attention and interest in the sport.

@Elliottklassen

Ай бұрын

I tend to agree, except then I wonder sometimes, why do track and field fans (including myself) expect coverage of our sport to be free? How does that help the sport if they can’t even monetize coverage of professional events? I think too often people try to emulate league sports when considering how to promote track and field, but I think a more comparable model to our system of one-off professional events is something like what the UFC does, which does also happens to include pay per view events. As much as I don’t want to pay for the events, if track and field fans were accustomed and willing to pay to watch meets it would undoubtedly be better for the sport. The problem currently is that most events do have some free option to watch, which makes people expect and feel entitled to free streaming. A fanbase like that would never be willing to shell out money for pay per view events.

@Elliottklassen

Ай бұрын

The strange thing is that we expect streaming services to be free, but so many of us have happily paid for tickets to diamond leagues and world championships. I wonder why we’re so unwilling to pay for one, but completely unbothered to pay for other (most diamond league events end up being sold out.)

@minichikimakubex

Ай бұрын

im from mexico, i always wait for the uploads here on youtube and it takes hours or days to watch a race, not any channel here in mexico would buy this events rights unfortunately.. and to be honest i wouldnt like to see it in english, i sometimes dont understand some words about the sport or even dont know who is talking

@allamericannightmare4904

Ай бұрын

For College I had a idea to make a series. Where you have a conference and you face each other 5 times with one out of conference meet. And as far as TV instead of making it look like you’re covering a horse race actually have someone that shows how the racers feel and there mentality. Ato is good for NBC but he doesn’t actually talk about the mind set too often.

@kandiekane.

Ай бұрын

As long as NBCs monopoly on NA remains, you will continue to have delayed biased coverage (poor service). Blame WA and IOC who licenses the rights.

I personally am a huge football fan, and one of the reasons I enjoy it, is that I am able to watch free matches on a consistent basis. Track and field needs to offer this sort of coverage in order to grow. People can’t fall in love with a sport they never watch.

Way back in 1972 I was the invitational events coordinator for a significant indoor meet. Four athletes who had agreed to come , the ones we focused our promotion on, simply did not show. I had a list of very good runners on a waiting list but could not call any because these world class athletes did not have the courtesy of picking up a phone and letting me know they couldn't come. I think they were completely class less, and insulting to the meet and their fellow athletes.I personally left the organizing part of the sport and took up coaching young athletes, which I thourghly enjoyed for the next 35 years,

@szymon6207

Ай бұрын

20th april move up Kip Keino classic Meet !

The coverage was shocking & far too many DNS from athletes, but s/o to Shafiqua Maloney (1.23.80 600m NR/WL/#9 all-time) & Britton Wilson (51.07 400m WL) who ran well.

@Mushywhisper

Ай бұрын

Need some trash talking and rivalries. Look at woman’s college basketball. Caitlin Clark and Reese got everyone watching. It’s unfortunate but a reality. I personally like that added spice to sports. Just like mma/boxing. Makes the event more entertaining

@dennisrobinson8008

Ай бұрын

That was a windy day. Did Britton have wind in her race? Cause it would help a little in one direction but kill her in the other direction... So maybe that 51 was a 49 in good conditions. In her last race the "shin splints" appeared to rear their head, she had an easy time until the final 100m.

@JeremiahLauzon

Ай бұрын

​@@dennisrobinson8008 No girl is running 49 right now, too early in the year. Especially being an Olympic year.

@dennisrobinson8008

Ай бұрын

@@JeremiahLauzon I said without that wind i think Britton was 49 high or 50 low and Little was her normal 50.5 or 50.6 for this time of the year. That is my opinion. Britton will get better. She faded in the last 100m in the last race. This year it was only fading in the last 50m. In 2 races or so that will be gone.

@phoebus

Ай бұрын

@@dennisrobinson8008 It's better to fight the wind on the backstretch than having it in your face the last 100 meters of a 400.

Complain To The President Of The USATF, who is paid 4 million a year and does nothing to promote The Sport

@Kausan1

Ай бұрын

That's a ludicrous amount

@michaeldavies4871

Ай бұрын

USATF CEO is Max Siegel, and the president is Vin Lananna, but they can’t control this. They have zero leverage over the athletes or local operations of meets. But that said, the $3.8 million Siegel was paid was a one time deal, and yes, it seems excessive, but his job was to find sponsors to help the sport’s financial stability, without which, track would have about the same visibility as cornhole. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@aljole683

Ай бұрын

@@michaeldavies4871 I've seen more "professional" Corn Hole on KZread than I have seen T&F.....🙄

@michaeldavies4871

Ай бұрын

@@aljole683 - seems like user error, try paying closer attention to your search terms.

@gsmith4295

29 күн бұрын

@@aljole683 Ive definitely seen more corn hole and ax throwing than track and field on TV. Why is it that such small but growing sports like that have no problem getting on ESPN but very little pro track and field makes it? NBC Sports and KZread are the only places I know to actually get T&F coverage but good luck finding it live unless its the Olympics or national trials.

To grow the sport of track and field? There needs to be REAL updates and REAL coverage of it. I'm a huge track and field fan and I totally forgot about this track meet because no one was really talking about it. Make it more accessible. Now a days to watch a track meet you have to watch through some 3rd party or pay a $30 to $50 a month subscription. And even then depending on what state you live in you still might not be able to watch. Which means you have to wait until someone post the highlights on KZread. As far as athletes dropping out or meets, I don't think that's something that will ever be fixed. Most pro athletes dont run during the indoor season, and they usually only run 3 MAYBE 4 meets before trails.

Yep, thats the problem.....where to watch it. So many people dont even know who she is so how and why

I can speak for Germany where Track & Field is hurt by the fact that many big stadiums have been turned into pure football/soccer stadiums over the last 20 or so years making it difficult to host meetings in bigger towns. Berlin and Munich have their respective Olympic stadiums, but most other cities have lost their stadiums with tracks. There are still meetings happening, but it just shows that there isn't much importance placed on Track & Field and it shows in the results of German athletes or the lack thereof.

@4plum

Ай бұрын

How about university or high school tracks then in Germany?

@davidwatched935

28 күн бұрын

@@4plumuniversities and high schools in Europe don’t have tracks, that only happens in USA

More money need to put in track&field and it will grow.

This meet was disappointing the whole way through. Even because we had strong headwinds for every event. Most of these tracks are invertible for this exact purpose. Why wouldn't we switch the track so that we have 1.0-3.0m/s tailwinds instead of headwinds? We would have ended up with many world leads, Olympic qualifiers, and overall exciting performances. Perhaps we even would have had less DNFs since athletes have nothing to gain from running into a 2.0m/s headwind.

@ekrasnai

Ай бұрын

Nope. Then the my would be wind aides would not meet any qualifying standards.

@Elliottklassen

Ай бұрын

@@ekrasnai probably around half of the events - maybe slightly more - would have still been under the allowable limit of 2.0m/s. Compared to running into the headwind and being essentially guaranteed a worthless time/mark.

“How can we grow coverage on track and field” as of now this channel is the only way 😂 it’s the reason I feel in love with the sport and am now running in college

The channel "Sprint Media" created a video covering how sprinting could be made a much more popular sport. I think the ideas in it have much potential and should be heard! The ideas included things such as 1v1s, a premier league, getting big personalities to race and more!

I’ve been watching track meets on TV for 30+ years. I have been disappointed with coverage and scheduling promotion for so long! The sport is basically invisible until the Olympics come around.

What was utterly shocking to me was witnessing Shashalee Forbes ignored and abandoned in agony after her injury, prompting me to question vehemently: where are the medics? Kudos to Tee Tee Terry and Sha'Sha'Carri for stepping in to assist when no medical help was in sight. What is happening?

I looked everywhere to see this coverage and could not find it anywhere, I watched it last year and really enjoyed the meet.

As with the majority of organizations that are not performing to their potential its about the people. Sebastian Coe is NOT a business man. He is an ex athlete, turned politician. In speaking over the weekend in Paris at the ASIC event he said " We are growing slowly as a sport and thats what we want " NO IT ISNT, that is not aspirational leadership. World Athletics is BROKEN and it desperately needs people who know how to run a global business. Find those people, look after them and they will do the job. It's not rocket science.

I’ll give you a data point. I’m a track fan and I live in Miami. I chose to attend the college meet at UM - Hurricane Alumni Invitational. The Miramar meet itself sucks. No respect for distance at all. Look at the event list. No 1500. Not even an 800. But a 600 outdoors? Not enough stars especially when there is no 800 or 1500. I looked at the heat sheets and decided it was not good enough to make my wife (not that into track) attend. I’d rather watch the college athletes I follow as a father of a high school track athlete. And yeah-no promotion whatsoever. Only hardcore track fans even know this meet exists.

Your page IS where i get my track news brother so we all appreciate you so much! But I’m not even mad they dropped out of the races because nobody wants to do their season opener in that nasty headwind just to put up a subpar time it’s not good for their ego 😅 they will pop off when the time comes 👏🏽👏🏽

I know one reason - a lot of track events are happening and it is VERY hard to find them to watch! How do you grow the sport when you can’t even find the meets to watch! How are the athletes to get a popularity if you can never find the event to watch!? I am grateful to Masai for streaming the event! 👏🏾👏🏾

If an athlete waits until 2 days to pull out it usually means that they did intend to compete and waited until the last minute to realize that they couldn't.

Better leadership. Track and field leadership at the pro level in America is horrible. Pay the athlete better and fine them for no shows. Better build up to the races.

More money needs to be put back into track and field . Note its an Olympic year , so training schedule are geared for peaking to make their country team and than the Olympic . People need to have a better understanding of the sport .

i think it would help to stop ducking each other. the top athletes are just so scared to lose, so they will avoid running against other good competition. i dont hope this season will turn out that way that the first time we see the best compete against each other is in the finals in Paris, but honestly, i wouldnt be surprised. Props to Lyles and Bol to have done the indoor season and hopefully also not skip to many outdoor races. maybe the problem for growing athletics lies in the hand of the coaches, cuz some of them seem to almost make a sport out of it to run as little as possible.

USATF and their lack of investment is a major problem. The broadcasting contract they have is abysmal.

Not only was it weird that they streamed the meet on Masai Russell's page, but you couldn't chat or comment and the finish line camera angles they used were TERRIBLE. 😡😡

You grow track and field by promoting general athleticism in society. The more unhealthy a population becomes, the less interest it has in athletics.

@Sough

Ай бұрын

I don't know, you have to be pretty fit to play elite football and we love watching that😅

@Normandy1944

Ай бұрын

Definitely not arguing a healthier population, but most would rather sit in that easy chair and just watch someone else be fit and think they could do that or at least used to.... (in their dreams).

@weatherlou

13 күн бұрын

@@Soughyou really don’t know…the population that follows football is mostly fat-ass dudes with absolutely NO athletic talent. The population that plays football is ridiculously small compared to the giant butts that follow it. Your argument makes NO sense.

Mixed thoughts about switching the running direction. I was in a meet where it was sunny and warm for most of it, but then a freak storm blew in just as I started the 200. Around the curve was fine, but the gust that hit as I entered the straightaway literally almost stopped me in my tracks. I finished the race then ran to my car - a tornado hit the area a bit later. My time was slow for me but I still placed well. You can't always predict these things and event organizers can have difficulty making changes. And what about those running longer distances, like the 400+? They are going to get hit with the wind one way or another - why should the short distances be any different? Similarly, at the top levels, races with wind show the grit of the true athletes, making what they do all the more impressive. What do other countries do, where the sport is significantly more well-attended? Start in elementary school - how do they grow the interest starting that early? You can't just look at adults in their prime to get an answer.

Personalize and personalization will grow the sport. Stars. Villians. Heros.

I love track and field, but I am having trouble finding any to watch on TV. I never thought to look on the internet.

If you want the sport to grow, make it more accessible. A lot of times live streaming of athletics meet is geoblocked. I have to use alternative means to watch the sport. It is a huge disappointment when prominent athletes withdraw from a meet. I was disappointed by the withdrawals today. With all that said, I think the colour of the track is too bright. You see the track more than the athletes competing.

@mertholomy8414

Ай бұрын

Exactly like they gatekeeping track meets. Like, do they even want the sport to grow?!

Track needs a new governing body that focuses on growing the sport in all areas (technologically, financially etc) rather than whatever they’re doing right now

What kind of meet does not assist an injured athlete off the track, that was totally unacceptable.I hope all the athletes take a good look at this situation and do NOT go back to that meet.That was disgraceful to track and field.

One of the biggest issues in track and getting ppl to watch it is that our big name runners/athletes do not consistently compete. Say you really liked Athing Mu and she was the only one you followed then you are going to watch 1 maybe 2 track meets a year. There is literally no reason to watch the rest because she won't be there. May big names that i USED to follow straight up don't even run. I, someone who loves track and is going to watch every single event, can't put up with that so how are we going to expect casual fans to stick around when even the athletes don't care enough to run.

tbh the site of the miramar invite literally had maisai's livestream at their front page but appart from that i agree with the issues addressed here

It’s outdoor track. It’s April. Track meets are long! Two day events. It’s the type of sport that’s more of a culture. There’s lots for spectators to experience, but it will never be three hours, buy a tshirt and you’re out of there.

Track needs to advertise more. Track is my favorite sport and I have never heard of this meet!!. I'm 62 yrs young. If I want to see track. I go to high school meets. You can barely find a seat, stadium is packed. Go to a college meet, I can sit anywhere I want. Improvements need to start at college level. Only popular place in the US is Eugene, OR.

They should pay you to stream meets here. This is the leading source of track and field news in the country. Better than nbc or any major network because it’s a great space for enthusiasts

Track coach and fan here. The problem with T&F as a live spectator sport on the screen is...we usually get something like 10 minutes of sprint prelims and relays, 20 minutes of distance, 5 minutes of the sprint finals, GOTTA have the women's pole vault, and then 1.3 minutes of recap of the best few throws and jumps. Another issue is...covering a meet properly with the closeups and angles that modern fans expect takes FAR more cameras and people than doing any other sport. It's prohibitively expensive. THAT is why the Olymics gets it, and no one else does; they have the sponsorship money to afford it, and the T&F governing body isn't involved, it's the Olympics people; and THEY understand how it works. We need to find a way to show all of a typical meet, in a more cohesive way, and that's going to mean we DON'T get Olympic style camera work on every event, and the T&F bodies need to back off on the monetary demands from that revenue stream. We as fans need to stop expecting 8 different angles of each race, and slow mo replays of every jump or throw. No one can afford to do that on a weekly basis. And T&F administration needs to get over themselves. The other issue is...T&F isn't a timed event. ALLLLLL of the big money sports in the US have changed rules to try and make them fit into a time slot. Even cricket did it in the UK. Soccer...and no, I an NOT calling it football....well, they are going to do what they do regardless, and they were a times event with no real time outs anyway. But T&F can't do that very well. We have 4 to 6 events happening all at once, we may or may not be done in 4 hours, and there's no good way to change that. Maybe there should be separate "channels" that show the various specialties? I respect distance runners, and I like watching a REAL race; but we often don't get a "race" anymore, we just get exhibitions. If I could pay a low fee for JUST the sprints, or JUST the HJ, I'd be more tempted to spend the money. Crazy thing....disc golf has a pretty solid system in place. Jomez and a few other private channels have developed, gotten the sponsors, and do a good job of presenting the sport, and the disc golf folks allowed them the space to make it happen. But T&F can't/won't do that...the people in charge want the money and control, and they cannot/WILL not allow any private media to get involved without making them pay a prohibitive amount. The T&F ruling class needs to understand, at the "non-Olympic" level, they need to let the private folks build things, and THEN ask for a cut, not demand it up front and stymie all efforts to present the sport to the masses.

@markifi

27 күн бұрын

good quality stabilized telephoto video cameras are prohibitively expensive? panasonic g9 with leica 100-400 cost well under 3 k. you need maybe 10 of those, the hardware and software to switch between them live, volunteer amateur camera operators, and you have your year-round coverage for years. the cameras which can go from wide to long zoom are expensive, but rather than doing that you can always just cut to a 400 dollar camera fixed at a high point in the venue for the occasional wide image. maybe a wireless microphone system clipped on the actual athletes would be a nice touch, and that would mean you're actually ahead of olympic coverage, if only when it comes to just audio

Totally agree with everything except the take on the wind. The terrain is the terrain; you can’t deliberately change the direction to benefit the athletes then invalidate all of their times when you know they are runnimg with +3 winds. These athletes work hard, they should run in. Conditions where their times count. An alternative is delaying race starts until winds settle as much as possible… where it is possible to do so.

as i live England the vast majority of the meets u cover i wouldnt see otherwise as i dont have access to their broadcasts, over here the crowd pullers are Football, Golf and to a lesser degree Snooker and Darts, all of these tend to have a lot of the big name advertising sponsors so get a lot more airtime cos of this, the problem with track & field is the lack of big name sponsors means less money for the broadcasters which in turn means less coverage which in turn means less viewership, its a catch 22 problem imo, they dont want to funnel more money into it and give it more coverage cos the viewing numbers are low but the reason for those low numbers is lack of coverage or difficulty in finding the coverage not lack of interest, its amazing how much money names like Nike, Adidas, etc can throw at Basketball but cant seem to show much if any love to track & field

I think there are other, more longlasting solutions to the headwinds. Like those large wind-absorbing nets they have on the ski jumping hills. They're not gonna completely cancel out the wind but they help against gusts and should make the races overall more consistent.

Being able to see the meets would be a great start. I haven't been able to see an outdoor event this season yet. I haven't seen a Diamond League meet this season. Track & Field coverage is terrible. I live in Atlanta, GA; not a small market city.

@krsn6394

Ай бұрын

Diamond league hasn’t started yet

If Track & Field learned what Marketing & Advertising is that would help ! Who know the Miramar was happening in S. Florida?

They need to increase coverage on the sport. There should be a league or season race worldwide. Example like F1 or MotoGP. World Athletics Competition. Accumulating points till end of season. Different regions might effect the runners differently so it might help. Just an idea.

I never know where to tune in. Do you let people know where to watch when you find out on your instagram or anything?

Richardson withdrew because her test would have failed.

I wonder how much $$$ the broadcast rights are for a meet like Miramar? Probably need to do some wheelin' & dealin' for camera angles, event times, athlete access, etc. but I wonder if they (Miramar or other promoters) want too much $$$ and broadcasters want too many concessions. You might also consider a lot of T&F in the USA is not on a schedule like the Diamond League in Europe as a lot of competitors are committed to their college's meet schedule in the spring, and a lot of foreign athletes might not want to make the long travel trek over to the USA for just 1-2 meets (Its a long series of flights from Kenya/Uganda for their distance runners).

I went to the Florida Relays a few days ago and I was thinking how to increase interest and I thought that maybe putting all the finals closer together at the end of the day would help.

It’s early in the season and I have no idea what meets my favorite athletes are competing at. No idea how their training is going. Wish athletes posted their schedule and some sort of injury report.

More money, more promotion, and more options of viewing these events need to be put into track and field. Track and field is one of the most special sports in the world and people half the time don’t even know when these special athletes are running. Why isn’t this sport or these athletes getting promoted? They are just as special and hard working or even more special and hard working than any other big time professional athlete! You know how many people would love to promote and go out and cover these events? Record them live and get interview with these athletes? I would love to personally but it seems like the higher ups don’t care about that…

Diamond League on Peacock was the only reliable source, but all the other track meets were near impossible to find, i.e., The Continental League. Track & Field is not promoted because it is too fragmented. I am able to watch all the major Olympic weightlifting competitions by paying a small streaming fee. This is what T&F should start doing.

Regarding wind, how is having an artificially faster time better than an artificially slower time? They're competing against each other. Are we really that thirsty to see lower times?

there definitely need to be more access to streaming

I love track and field. In fact, I love sports like this, where the athletes compete individually, like boxing, swimming, tennis, gymnastics, etc. They can have all the trainers in the world, but when it comes down to the actual competition, it is up to each individual alone. Yes, they can pair up with others as a team, but it is ultimately an individual sport. Other sports are team sports and it takes the efforts of the whole team to win. Like in football, you can praise and compliment and judge a quarterback as the best, but he can be no greater than his offensive line that protects him and gives him the opportunity to pass and or move out of the pocket and the receivers who get open to receive the pass. (Can he be great without an offensive line and receivers? If so, let him play on the field by himself and see how many touchdowns he is credited with.) As in other sports, likewise. It takes the effort and assist of another/others. But in individual sports, like the ones I mentioned, it is all on the individual. I tend to be more impressed by them. (I’m not saying I am not impressed by great teams, I am impressed how they can use their individual skills to “work together” as a team. However, it takes the team to win.)

You have to televise and add trackside announcers, like the pair who do Battlebots.

Buying meet tickets on account of seeng certain athhletes, perhaps traveling from afar, incurring costs for accomodations and meals and then to have them withdraw at the last moment is infuriating and there is no recourse for the fans. We need to figure out a way to penalize the sponsors or athletes to discourage this from happening.

Have a format like Formula 1. Have teams instead of countries. Then do a grand Prix type event in different locations. Accumulate points and give the winning team a huge prize. As fans of any sport, we follow drama, team gossip, narratives, rivalries. These meets on their own mean little to the overall fabric of the sport. Think about it. Every popular sport has narrative.

Always have loved the big televised events but really didn’t know how much I enjoyed track until I found channels like this on YT - there is so much that is missed in the time between Olympic events that add to the context of what track and field really is

I think it's a better way to get rid of someone in IAAF who often makes crazy rule alterations.

From my understanding this isn’t a big meet. ShaCarri usually runs fast there so I think it gained traction over the past few years. It was as streaming on peacock until ShaCarri and Sherika pulled out. It was rumored the meet couldn’t meet their appearance fee.

My number one problem from today was the camera position. Why are you filming facing the athletes? You can never tell the positions while running or the winner. I didn't enjoy one thing. I knew Sha'carri wasn't running cause she announced it on her Instagram a couple of days ago so I was ready not to see her there.

@carycase5563

15 күн бұрын

I hate that too, what good is it seeing the athletes running strait at you? Imagine what it would be like to watch a football game from the endzones...I have done this once...never again.

Way too many restrictions where viewership is concerned. NFL, NBA to name a few can be viewed across the world on the biggest media platforms. Why does track and field continue to restrict viewership to certain parts for the world then wonder why there is no growth. World Athletics needs to do better and make these kind of meets more accessible worldwide

Nailed it. Think of any other sport where the top athlete does not show or is going to be a "maybe" what that would do the fan base. Also, in this sport there are up and coming athletes who may be seeded in an event with a topper .. worked there tail off to get there .. and now cannot even get a chance to validate .. sure the times, distance or heights attained may provide some validation .. but word is .. competition - getting a chance to compete against the best. The lack of accessibility by fans to view it .. man, that just kills the whole thing. Been there like all you .. searching .. searching .. and nothing. Not that I'm a fan a certain broadcast agent - stream - but the past pieces that NBC put out there .. commentators, camera coverage has been good ... but not enough .. just sugar tid-bits of what could be.

Management is making a lot of money whether it's televised or not their paycheck is already in the bank. Sad! 😔

Run into the wind for legal races, otherwise you are asking for voided record races by track officials in the future. Plus, weather is going to be weather. I would bring electronic false starts down to zero from the gun, personally if you want void or change anything about track starts.

The problem is not the athletes dropping out or winds. The issue with track and field is the nature of the sport. In the end of the day sports only grow due to how monitisable they are. If businesses cant make investments and see returns, the sport will not grow. But how do you monitise a sport where events like the 100m last no more than 11 secs? Also i love track and field but even i struggle to justify paying to go to competitons when 90% the time im there, ill be watching people running in an oval or people sprinting for a maximum of 50 secs. I think track and field needs to find a way to create longer periods of entertainment. Maybe 1v1 events. Similar to the UFC, 2 athletes go head to head. There could be prelims and main events. For each event. Love the channel btw

I am boxer and i love running as it is the major part of our training and l love this channel

@dennisrobinson8008

Ай бұрын

Running is a major component of most physical sports.

Running with the wind is the worst idea… the solution isn’t switching the direction, it’s just dealing with the weather or choosing tracks that have wind shielding/are set up with cross winds

Maybe the ladies that withdrew had a look at the weather forecast I thought “nope I’m out of here”.😂

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@JorgePerez-jg5cm

13 күн бұрын

Yup nonsense mostly stopped listening about 30 seconds in.

@damonr4136

12 күн бұрын

Thanks, not gonna watch

I was looking forward to it. I'm not into Track & Field at all. I found your channel looking for videos about her. I love to watch. I had it on my calendar to make sure to watch. I'm bummed. Save yourself for Paris?

Luckily, I was there live today. The only issue was the headwind preventing the athletes to run some SB. Also, big names like Shacarri and Shericka not showing up.

Last year when Sha'Carri ran fast with a tail wind, many discounted the time because of the excessive wind. So, running in the other direction doesn't solve anything. The very late withdrawals is very sad and hurts the sport. I hope both are OK. But then that also says hat they should have been able to run.

I'm glad you brought up the difficulty finding events. that often happens to me and I find it torturous. 1) there should be one go-to website with an easy to search master index promoting the individuals and the events, nothing else. 2) For the meets themselves, strip out the field events, more track-only ones and, for the sprints, roll-out stadium seats on the field side. It's like assuming fans who like swimming races also like synchronized swimming and forcing the racing fans to watch the ballet because both events happen in water. I want to watch people compete to see who are the fastest runners. I really don't care how far someone can throw and iron ball, and I certainly don't want to gaze at their bodies. --Achilles.

I think these withdrawals are due to the athletes getting ready (and injury free) going into the Paris Olympics a few months aways. That is the ultimate gold standard.

Maybe they withdrew because they knew their season opener times would be slower than what they know they can run since they would be running into a heavy headwind ?? Maybe

@darthsilversith667

Ай бұрын

Thats a lame excuse if that’s why.. they probably had fans at that meet that had saved and planned for months to be able to go to that event to see their favorite runners and might not have that opportunity again in the future.. if you’re a professional athlete.. you owe it to your fans to show up and try.

@harmonyndlovu4866

Ай бұрын

True I agree with u I hope ,I actually feel like athletes do watch this channel alot so I hope they read our comments

@masonponton6166

Ай бұрын

If that’s the case then the goal should have just shifted to winning and not worrying about time if wind is the clear barrier

@Gr8Incarnate

Ай бұрын

Or maybe they're just focusing on the Olympics and decided that this race was of little importance to them.

The U.S. sports press has ignored track and field for decades. They promote sports hero idolatry and identification. There’s a purity to running and jumping that doesn’t fit their marketing schemes. I love it for its simplicity and purity (performance enhancing drugs aside).

As a whole we watch track & field about once every 4 years

Not related to these particular meets, one of my consistent disappointments happens in more championship meets like the Olympics or World Championships or often in the NCAA championships. In the distance races, when you have an occasion to have a plethora of the top competitors FINALLY coming together to compete directly with each other,,, and then they run these bloody "technical" or "strategic" races. Understandable in qualifying rounds but consistently happens in the finals as well. I want to see records challenged at these meets. I want to see these amazing top athletes really stretching themselves. I feel it greatly diminishes the event. Imagine watching the Super Bowl or the NBA championships or whatever where both teams are kinda just doing a warm-up for the first half of the game. Fewer qualifying rounds so athletes don't have to conserve themselves so much? Athletes choosing to compete in fewer events? I also realize weather plays a big part. Extreme heat or wind means ya gotta be more careful in doling out your energy. Maybe I'm greatly in the minority on this but just my two cents.

Good point about the wind. A few challenges though about seating pricing etc. but could be solved. Athletes not showing up? Contractual clauses may hold the key?

seems like in the US at least, the money is going into Marathons and even Ultra Marathons. I say that because that is ultimately going to be what solves this issue. Bigger sponsorship commitments to events. Maybe athletes need to form a co-op or we need a US version of the Diamond League.

1. More meets streaming on KZread or Peacock. 2. Change false start rule to avoid DQing athletes. If an athlete takes off too early, adjust their time based on starting block reaction time data. 3. Change long and triple jump to use a 2-foot takeoff zone, measure from the front of the takeoff foot. This would eliminate unnecessary foot faults. 4. More rivalries. 5. Change meet schedules to allow more athletes to participate in multiple events. 6. Pole vault for distance instead of height.

@blaze1148

Ай бұрын

Great ideas !

@Gr8Incarnate

Ай бұрын

That last one lost me. It's like saying let's have a 100m where the sprinters run backwards instead.

@aljole683

Ай бұрын

1. More meets streaming on KZread.... Yes. 2. Change false start rule to avoid DQing athletes. If an athlete takes off too early, adjust their time based on starting block reaction time data. That would take HUGE investments in technology. Also, people leaving early would become a psychological weapon, just like the guys that take FOREVER getting into the blocks, or like false starting was used for a while before the DQ was implemented. 3. Change long and triple jump to use a 2-foot takeoff zone, measure from the front of the takeoff foot. This would eliminate unnecessary foot faults. Again, a large investment in technology, or a VERY questionable subjective view by a person that has to look at it 40-100 times in the meet. The event is....can you hit the board and jump far? I know they are changing it....but not for the better, IMHO. 4. More rivalries. It's not the WWE...T&F athletes tend to respect each other, and pumping up the animosity between individuals to make things into a soap opera isn't my idea of a good idea. There ARE rivalries, and they can be healthy....but I don't see media coverage of them being good for anyone. The one's we've all seen recently were ugly. 5. Change meet schedules to allow more athletes to participate in multiple events. They already can...the issue is the guy that does ONE event has an advantage over a guy that does multiples. There's no way to eliminate that, except to require everyone to do all the same races, and THAT isn't going to happen. I mean, it's an easy rule to implement, but...then you'd have "the sprint Quadathlon" or whatever, to be a "sprinter" you MUST run the 100/200/400 and be in one relay? Can't see it being a real draw for the runners. 6. Pole vault for distance instead of height. Ummm....HUH? WHY? Limit the pole length to avoid people being 18' in the air while trying to go 36 feet away to land in....what? That's NOT a good idea.

I was a runner in school. If you have a strong tail wind, it is not a world record it is only a record for the one location, in all short distances. When several laps are run, the wind becomes less of a factor .

ik audio was kind of wonky at times diring the stream ,but in regards to you saying the meet organizers could've had the athletes run in the opposite direction, I believe it was Ato who said that they couldn't do so due to the fact they only had one timing station.

I do not think we need to grow any spectator sports. We need to grow sports for participants. I think more companies like Revel Races might help. Make events for all people fun, and efficient.

Better yet! Why not make all events indoor with no wind effects at all!

You need a guy like Usain Bolt, someone who transcends the sport and delivers iconic moments

“Flipping the track” for wind costs extra money with the timers, but I can’t imagine is too great. The Texas Relays flips, and so do the high school regionals.

I thought it was weird when I saw it pop up on my KZread recommendation 🙃. My 1st thought was maybe it’s a bootleg livestream and it will be eventually taken down for copyright use. But now since I saw this video and found out it was official I was like oh wow that’s different 😆

Hi. Great channel. I'm a big fan. You're right about everything. Athletes should have the courtesy to say why they don't won't show. And organizers should consider everything. See what you can do with your platform and ask us, your fans and followers, to sign what we must to get the sport there. 🎉🎉🎉

They should take average performance in each category by people off the street. Then superimpose a ghost image. When we can see how much more dominant pro level athletes are.

Off topic, but is Abby Steiner injured? I haven't seen anything about her in a long time.

@aroncampos5720

Ай бұрын

Saw video from a small youtuber saying she was in drug rehab. Not sure if it was reliable

@icumarketingonline

Ай бұрын

@@aroncampos5720 that would be sad.

@jdoveyk9422

27 күн бұрын

She had surgery to remove a bone spur on one of her heels. That takes a long recovery so likely her and her coach are making sure she can be ready for nationals and Olympic qualifying safety and soundly.

@icumarketingonline

27 күн бұрын

@@jdoveyk9422 Thanks for the update. He posted a video about her recent 400 like 1-2 days after I asked, so it made me laugh.

I actually agree with running into the headwind, since the opposite might inflate numbers which are not comparable to running with no wind. And since running with no wind is the ideal for gauging a true speed. Leaving the best conditions for running with no wind and leaving the alternative to headwind makes the most sense.

I love T&F and have been saying this for years. The coverage is large events is dog-water. I would definitely pay $10 to have full access to the meets via video/streaming. World Championship indoor was so frustrating…there WAS NO WAY TO WATCH THE GD MEET. Then athletes complain about prize money…if the meet was broadcasted, there could be sponsors, fans could watch (and pay for the access), the purses could be higher. I don’t understand the gatekeeping.

It needs to be on mainstream TV. No one but the most ardent fan, or fellow athlete is going to go hunting around for some estranged streaming platform. We in the UK are lucky, all the main events are televised.

Good callout on the Miramar meet not being streamed on a larger platform. A bigger problem is that the Miramar meet was not marketed very well. Miramar is right in my back yard and I didn't even hear about it until after it was done. Would have been great to attend the meet in person. I guess long gone are the days when track and field news dominated newspapers and 50,000 people would fill a stadium to see Jesse Owens compete.