Took me too long to realise “heavy people movers” referred to the vehicle weight and not the passenger weight.

@bmc8195

3 ай бұрын

I have been in a MIFA9. It was a heavy people mover when I was in it.

@kumbackquatsta

3 ай бұрын

in america it applies to passenger weight though

@ZakPooe

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@reginald7214

3 ай бұрын

😂😆

@geoffreykeating8172

3 ай бұрын

Where are the normal people movers ⁉️ I know they are Tesla . EV makers quit before they even started , or is Tesla that much ahead ⁉️ I think we all know the answer to that question 😅

Was this filmed on a phone? Strange blurry camera work when outside the car/bus while driving. I do love the fact that you are getting presenters from the country in question rather than flying around the world. The consistency is pretty solid considering this. Fully charged is very informative and consistent! Well done team fully charged.

@t1n4444

3 ай бұрын

Cost is one aspect and might be difficult to justify flying presenters hither and thither keeping the carbon footprint thing to a minimum ... especially when the ethos of the website is to promote "greeness". Might be an idea to use local stringers for every aspect of the website when abroad. Bit like Harry using private jets to attend court in UK. Thank goodness we'll be travelling across the globe in vacuum tubes in a year or two.

@desertstar223

3 ай бұрын

Do you have anything to say about the car?

@t1n4444

3 ай бұрын

@@desertstar223 Certainly. But it's not about the car though, is it. It's all about trying to push battery EVs and as we all know they're not as popular as they once were, certainly not in UK what with the revelation of the original new prices, the not terribly special residuals, the stonking cost of insurance, the somewhat unbelievable cost of a battery pack should it require repairs or replacement and the by now annual demonstration that cold weather affects the performance of battery EVs ref range and the time it takes to recharge in said cold weather. This particular car may well have its virtues ... somewhere ... but not in UK. What with the initial disappointment that electric cars take a long time to charge, and that's not including a possible long wait at a charging facility, the variable cost of said charging and that in 2025 the equivalent of VED will be levied on electric vehicles. Please try to grasp that battery EVs, in colloquial terms, are "not all that". As for cargo carrying vehicles then the weight of a battery bank may well reduce the payload, given the maximum road weight so to speak. It is clear to many observers that battery powered vehicles were only ever a step on the way to reducing greenhouse gases, which, unless you missed it, is the only reason why battery EVs were introduced in the first place. To repeat, the idea is to reduce the rate of temperature increase in the atmos'. Unless you have been asleep then it is inevitable the global ice will melt, causing sea levels to rise and increase the pressure on land space on which to house a growing population (some of whom have a fondness for freely fornicating their way into starvation) and of course feeding said population. Trillions of tons of cold fresh water mingling with the sea water will more than likely have dire effects on the weather patterns as the climate changes, ocean currents, the plankton at the bottom of the food chain and you can Google the rest for yourself, if arsed. All the above caused by our propensity in burning fossil fuels over the past few decades. And you're asking about a single vehicle? Perhaps you should attempt to gain some perspective?

I'm glad we're finally seeing people mover EVs because for those of us with accessibility requirements for wheelchair users need it. Modifications around the batteries though is still an issue but it's a start!

@shonunezekiel

3 ай бұрын

In case you are not already aware of these other people movers, the VW ID Buzz, Citroen e-Space Tourer, Opel/Vauxhall (Buick/Holden?) Combo e-Life, and Peugeot e-Rifter are currently on sale, and this year Volvo EM90 and Ford E-Tourneo should start being sold (there are probably a lot more I have missed)... in China they seem to especially love people movers so if you are able and willing to jump through the legal/logistical/financial/tax hoops to import a car from there, then you would have even more choice. Best wishes and good luck!

@teamtaj

3 ай бұрын

@@shonunezekiel Hey thanks I'll definitely look into these. Kia has also announced a new platform for medium to large people movers/last mile transport and delivery that looks promising. Unfortunately importing puts us in a position of risk when it comes to service and repair so we're at the whim of the major manufacturers bringing it into Australia.

@joebooth67

3 ай бұрын

​@@shonunezekielFYI opel / vauxhall are owned by Peugeot Citroen and part of that family including Fiat and Jeep. Opel / vauxhall aren't GM anymore which means they don't share platforms with Buick and Holden

@shonunezekiel

3 ай бұрын

@@joebooth67 - thanks for clarifying that Joe! I was not sure if they were still connected :D ... I am in the UK and have never knowingly seen a Buick or Holden - they actually sound like people's names rather than car brands to me!

Those commenting about the charge port on the left side and the sliding door, this is just my opinion but I imagine the door won't open if it is charging and since this is a right hand drive vehicle the passengers are probably getting out on the ride side, most of the time but I get where you are coming from if someone is buying a big vehicle you want access to the door for all the people you are transporting, it will probably only be a minor issue if there are passengers and need to stop to charge up on a trip, Maybe do like they did with some of the old cars have a flip up rear light to access your charging port they did that some of the old cars from the 50's -60's to access the fuel filler cap you lifted up one of the rear tail lights. A bit big for my use, just me and my bicycles. Cheers.

Yay Simone, nailed Bobby's classic three-part intro🤩 Now, off to Incat in Tassie please who is currently building the world's largest and fastest full battery electric ferry ⛴🔋⚡

ooof why would they put the charging port right next to the sliding door? You're effectively blocking that door while it's charging. Yes there's another sliding door, but still. Not sure why they made that design choice.

@Zirrad1

3 ай бұрын

Puts the port on the curb side in England.

@AlexParkAndRide

3 ай бұрын

Because they don't care about the user

Simone is amazing presenter, love her!

@ARepublicIfYouCanKeepIt

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, what he said!

@aye3678

3 ай бұрын

True!

@ZakPooe

3 ай бұрын

You kidding me, she's hot! 🥵 And yes, also amazing presenter 😅

@lemagnitio72

3 ай бұрын

Big improvement on Jack.

Did we get to see the boot space?

I have actually been in a Maxus Mifa 9. It was in a car show, and it was really cool. I didn't check much else than the rear seats, but they were really comfortable. Also, it was a Maxus, not LDV, but it's pretty much the same, right?

@benrgrogan

3 ай бұрын

Yeah the LDV badge was dropped in favour of Maxus in most markets, but the products are the same

@bmc8195

3 ай бұрын

Yes, I went in one at Fully Charged Sydney last year. The second row was some of the nicest car seating I've ever been in.

@DanielBull

3 ай бұрын

Yeah I saw it at fully charged as well badged as a Maxus

She's just done the most professional presentation ever seen on this channel. The into was exquisite: "this is the X, I'm X and your watching X Finally! Well done! You better hire this gal full time!

@t1n4444

3 ай бұрын

Possibly. But there again she might be an agency worker and took the job as a one off earner. Working with battery EVs must be a tad boring as we now see said battery EVs are slightly retrograde and perhaps not the answer to global warming as was once thought. I would strongly suggest the lady presenter would have been more engaged if the vehicle had been powered by an hydrogen fuel cell ... wouldn't we all. Toyota, as you might know, are now not quite so enamoured of battery EVs as once were. I have every confidence Robert will be dedicating an entire program as to why battery EVs are becoming more de trop by the day. Hopefully getting an interview with Toyota's top dog. Come on Robert! Let's do some serious reportage! You can't put it off forever as a lot of lithium mines are likely to shut down forever. And these UK "pop up" battery factories don't materialise in quite the way they were promised. Together we can drive batteries off the road ... and ease the elderly car journalists into a long overdue retirement ... in an hydrogen gas fueled home.

Great presentation on a class of vehicle that's fairly popular here in Australia. Good point about the size and weight and relative efficiency. Can see this in the luxury airport shuttle services though.

Really not a fan of this "new" trend of sticking display panels out of the dashboard, it makes them look like unfinished prototypes. I don't care which companies do that, it's a mistake IMHO.

@akf2000

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, very Mercedes

Welcome to Fully Charged Simone.

What a delightful presentation !! Informative, easy listen…..keep it up

how do you open that left side back door whilst charging?

@petesig93

3 ай бұрын

I am guessing that you don't. You just have to get out through the right-side door.

@bryanduncan6178

3 ай бұрын

You don't! The door is interlocked with the charging flap, so if you're charging it's the right hand door only!

@bytchslappa

3 ай бұрын

Was gonna post the same thing - this is a huge oversight in the design - especially since its loaded with those chairs - not great to people to get around.

@tren133

3 ай бұрын

​@bytchslappa there is an entire sliding door on the other side of the car. Why would it be any more difficult to exit out the other door when you are charging?

Simone is excellent! Loving the OZ vibe. 👍

Congrats on this video. Love the structure and the way you tick off the relevant info point by point with both the good and the bad aspects.

We don't see enough of Simone. She's really good.

@xiaoka

3 ай бұрын

Yes. Excellent. ( I can even understand her ‘stralia accent!) 😂

the price alone makes this doa.

@addsfour3499

3 ай бұрын

I wonder if it might succeed as a taxi, or airport limo

@Mike-Minion

3 ай бұрын

@@addsfour3499 for very short runs maybe. but it doesn't have much range either. i think it would be a great car at 60k to 80k.

This was really interesting! As a city dweller I always worry about the turning circle (ie manoeuvrability) of the longer cars - would be great to see that as one of the standard stats that FC add... anyway, it is also available online, and this one is 12.7m - which is a bit less than I thought it would be :-D ... but more than 2m wider than what I could cope with in London!

@kiddwong4186

3 ай бұрын

It'd probably be ok actually if they didn't have that unnecessarily long nose to try and get the SUV look.

@shonunezekiel

3 ай бұрын

@@kiddwong4186 true... if an EV is going to have a long nose, at least use it to make it more aerodynamic!

Haven't seen a video with Simone before. She did a great job.

Good review Simone. One detail that needs clarifying is that you are quoting the price in AU$. It took a conversion check to confirm this but for an international audience 'dollars' are often assumed to be the US variety.

Very professional. A natural presenter and star in the making.

Hoping for more 3-row EV options to come to the US

Hey Simone. Love your work 👍

Great review 👍👍

Great to see Simone again, could listen to her all day. I can see this as a great taxi/shuttle but completely agree that we need to start making better use of the space a car takes up. Tax credits for estates and penalties on enormous SUVs

Great to see a bit of our home town Adelaide Simone! Looks like the Tonlsey rapid chargers still down tho? Not my cup of tea, but great review, cant help but think how much better and more fit for purpose it would be as a proper people mover with 6-8 seats.. Airport shuttle!

Quite a few of the mainstream media can learn a ton from your presenters. Thank you for your hard work 🙂

Seen this car in Nepal 🇳🇵 too, its called Maxus Mifa 9 here.

@ellieban

3 ай бұрын

Nepal has the best flag

@jonitan76

3 ай бұрын

how much this mifa9 cost, there??

@harrypothead4575

3 ай бұрын

@@jonitan76 Little over US$100K I think.

Simone is a great presenter. She's very comfortable presenting and oozes authenticity. Love to see it!

Always happy to watch a new car review, also new reviewer did well. Though what a weird giant car, not really sure who this is actually for. Find the use of the LDV brand for such a thing is distressing ( though doesn't hurt as much as MG did 😢 ) .

@jamesengland7461

3 ай бұрын

Large families. I thought that was obvious.

@radfoo

3 ай бұрын

@@jamesengland7461 yes, of course, but seems a niche of niche of a niche

Loved seeing an aussie presenter and right in time for Australia Day

This looks interesting

Cut off the rear cabin behind the first row, install a tray and you have a decent size ute.

Good on you Simone. Kicking goals!

yey Simone... ya that interior looks plenty comfy

what do we do with it in 8 years time when the battery is 'done'?

I might have missed it but does this vehicle have a "Vehicle to Load" capability of any sort? With a battery that big it might get some love as an "away from the grid" power bank. Thanks for a great review Simone. We'll be watching for your next one.

Great episode, Simone. 👏👏

Good review, making lots of interesting points.

So this is a blinking luxury vehicle rather than a normal, practical, parkable car like my Renault Zoe!!

Nice reivews. In other markets this is called Maxus Mifa9

Watching now & straight away it’s mentioned that in uk it’s maxus :) thanks

I do worry about that charging port location, is it hit by the sliding door? Also Leather seats in Australia is just bad, I can see being stuck to them 80-90% of the year, only feeling good for the 2 weeks of "real winter" that would still be spring temperatures in any country in the northern hemisphere.

Great review Simone.

A great review by Simone

Even as an EV enthusiast, that price is wild. 50K more than a petrol version. That's like 30,000 litres of petrol at today's prices. The petrol uses 9.3L/100km, so you'd need to do over 322,000km before you paid off the difference, excluding energy costs. (I'm ignoring servicing costs because they're a bit of an unknown. I WANT EVs to succeed. I haven't bought petrol in 8 months. Wife and I have had a Tesla for a year and a BYD for the 8 months since. The price needs to make sense, and I think for business, this particular model is well overpriced, unless for buying businesses, if they're looking to show off to eco conscious clients paying lots of money. In the real world for us peasants, we need more focus on things like what BYD and MG are doing with sub $50K options

@mrmawson2438

3 ай бұрын

@JoshuaMcTackett Combustion engines are slowly killing the planet and the people.

@LadAussie

3 ай бұрын

You're not wrong, cut out all the unnecessary stuff, those seats are way over the top and change leather to cloths, sure they can reduce the cost a decent amount.

@vampdan

3 ай бұрын

You don't want you to look like the help? You're going to pay for it. "Vanity: Definitely my favorite sin." - Lucifer, DEVIL'S ADVOCATE

@Preske

3 ай бұрын

I am almost certain that these are AUD prices. In USD it is closer 85K. Not sure why they didn't specify.

@JoshuaMcTackett

3 ай бұрын

@@Preske I’m from Australia speaking about Australian prices! Can always tell by the voice and plates that they’re one of ours! Just way way too much of a gap in price between petrol and EV to make a proper business case in this case I think

Those seats are great especially when you need a sleep whilst waiting for a charger and charging! I want this car!

Exciting to have an Aussie presenter! Welcome Simone

That interior is insane

@stephen300o6

3 ай бұрын

You need a new adjective.

@spankeyfish

3 ай бұрын

@@stephen300o6 That interior is skibidi.

Not sure in what world a 30-80% time of 36 minutes is “reasonable“. That‘s terrible for a 90kWh battery pack

Cheers Simone

Looks awesome =)

wow.... uuuhhgleee! The front end looks like a storm trooper

The Mifa 9 cost under 300000 Yuan (AU$ 65 000) in China. Is it import duty that nearly doubles the price for Auz?

An honest report and rational considerations on this Luxo-barge. The front end looks RR Evoque-ish. Odd name and expensive. Finally, someone is mentioning the weight issue of larger EVs and battery size drawbacks. Econo-meters in cars were all the range during the oil crisis of the 70s, but were more of a novelty than anything practical.

@petesig93

3 ай бұрын

Have you checked out the weight of the Toyota Landcruiser? This is no heavier. Nobody bleats too much about Landcruisers "breaking our bridges" 🤣🙄

@GolLeeMe

3 ай бұрын

@@petesig93 Thankfully they are not that common on our roads. Plenty of EVs with this size or similar battery packs that are mainstream. I take the point you make, and I think that this will be similar in terms of sales volume as well. Point is, EVs are very heavy due to battery pack capacity, in part to placating range anxiety. Anything over 60kWh of energy capacity is an affront to the availability of scare natural resources, IMO. The sooner lighter and higher densities materials are found to replace Li Ion, the better. The more that reviewers talk about this in their commentary, the better. This is the first review I have heard anyone discussing battery capacity in terms of weight. I have heard plenty of criticisers do this, but never in a EV review. I say, well done and about time. Cheers.

@petesig93

3 ай бұрын

@@GolLeeMe EVs are not "very heavy". My Ioniq 6 is about 1,970 kg, which is only about 300 kg heavier than the old Ford Falcon station-wagon it has replaced. If you reckon that 300 kg is going to break down bridges or wear out the road surfaces at rapid rate, I have some bad news for you (*Kenworths!)

@petesig93

3 ай бұрын

@@GolLeeMe BTW, Lithium ion batteries are the best in terms of energy-density. The new, better LiFePo batteries which avoid fast-charging issues and do not use cobalt or nickel, are actually lower energy-density (ie. less range or a heavier battery to achieve range). Sodium-ion which is also being touted and on some models is similar.

@GolLeeMe

3 ай бұрын

@@petesig93 I am not suggesting anything about the weight of EVs for parking structures or bridges/roads etc. Not sure why people seem to be accusing me of that, as I have never stated such a concern. Having worked with structural engineers for most of my life I know that the safety margin built into every structure under AS1170 seems more than adequate, although most likely at the upper limit. It’s the suggested parking bay size that is recommended for EVs that should shock the most. Span on 360, and if you cannot get the suspended floor to comply, spread the load out further. Meaning bigger parking bays and less vehicles per unit area. An old trick. The Iqonic6 is about Camry size and proportionally heavier (vis 1500-1650kg). A whole lot of extra weight to be dragging around in a battery pack impacting on tyres, suspension, etc. Given longer range trips an EV needs a reasonable battery size to cope with long distance pitstops, thats for sure. If average trips are 40-60kms then a battery pack of anything more than 60kWh is a sheer waste and unnecessary IMO. Until of course you need that 90-100kWh pack to go on an interstate trip. If a Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross or Outlander can achieve 40-60km range on EV power alone (without starting the ICE) and with a smallish battery pack of something like 15-30kWh (across both models) and dragging those heavy PHEV bodies around, then really there is no excuse for big batteries to cater for most situations. This is one of the many conundrum facing buyers, and unfortunately it’s how this rolls in Oz. We can’t put in smallish packs to cater for everything in OZ because we don’t live in Europe. Hydrocarbons are king for long trips and they are more convenient and useful in those situations, and reduce the time delay of refuelling. EVs are great in urban built up areas and helping to secure national energy supplies. The facts don’t care how we feel about them, they are still the facts. Cheers.

So you either charge or open the left rear door? great design...

Simone is a lovely presenter with a relaxed tone and easy voice to listen to, but the MIFA9 is a "yeah, nah" from me. For living in Sydney it's too big for some roads and would be a nightmare to find parking for. All of those controls in the middle row chairs would be crazy to let children take control of.

What stupidity to place the charge port in the way of the sliding door. It's not as if minivans didn't provide the example of moving the fuel filler back out of reach of the sliding door....

Thanks

Coming from someone who has lived with three different electric cars, i hate it when the charge port is on the driver front fender. It makes it awkward when you want to use a public charger, rear passenger quarter pannel is the most convenient. If someone says otherwise, they dont use public charging stations very often!

Bit of a monster-only for large families and business trips??

lets gooo, more Australian EV stuff!

The front is very Range Rover, isn't it? That's no bad thing.

A good presentation Simone. That is not a "car" for me, but it is interesting to see.

Nice to see some minivan , although it's heavy people minivan. Would be nice if they make cheaper version without posh for "lighter" ones?

Why was the color of the car changed from what it is in the video to yellow in the thumbnail? Was it just to get the viewers attention?

Are we not going to talk about the solar roof chargers? This is the more important topic, ev drivers lets start a petition to get more roofs (solar) over the changing infrastructure. Lookng at you Supercharger in Bulls.

I would LOVE this. Need some help though I live in Croydon in a block of flats that has limited parking. I'm on the 7th floor so running a cable ain't an option! Some bugger would take some scissors to it. No chargers here ever given the layout. So nearest one is expensive even compared to home charging or even diesel and either not working or has a 2 hour wait. I do about 100 miles a day and carry heavy loads. I can't take 3 hours out of my working day to charge a van and I need to eat and sleep. Electric is getting to be an elite club for people with driveways 😢😢😢😢😢😢

@davidcannon1144

3 ай бұрын

No help guys????😢

What is the battery chemistry? This is key information!

@gribbler1695

2 ай бұрын

Battery: 89.9 kWh 395 V lithium-ion

Sorry, but I’m a supermini man!! I’m not into vehicles 4.5 metres or shorter rather than massive great things like this!! It’s certainly not pretty, but it might well be very practical!!

That interior footage, agh

Thumbs upp for use the metric system - it is so much easier to understand directly.

@snowstrobe

3 ай бұрын

Well, she is Aussie...

Happy to see a presenter that represents Oz, she did a good job. Hope to see more of her. You do need to reference that the price was in Oz dollars though, or you'll have American viewers ... choking and yelling at the screen.

@AJames-jr8kw

3 ай бұрын

And don't forget the luxury vehicle tax which makes expensive vehicles even more so.

That's a Karin Vivanite! 😲

The point is to have appropriate size vehicles for their use. All too often even 4/5 seat cars are just too big.

Rear charging point team! 👊

This is not fit for purpose as a family vehicle. The closest I have found is either VW Sharan or SEAT Alhambra. Create an electric vehicle that is as capable as either of these two vehicles and you are getting close to the perfect family vehicle. Five full size individual rear seats that fold to create a completely flat floor, plus sliding rear doors.

Totally agree on heavy EVs being taxed etc just as heavy ICE vehicles would be - anything to encourage manufacturers and potential customers from making / buying ever-more excessively-sized, energy-sapping SUVs, rather than vehicles which are more fit-for-purpose and environmentally kind.

No Android Auto is a problem. Good review.

I see NZ has the 3 levels priced at 80k, 100k &120k (US$ 49k, 61k & 73k)

Wonder if you can get them with empty back and use it like it a van

Heads up display? I’ve had one on my last two. Cars and cant live without it. Kinda surprises me more people dont want it

@tomp4944

3 ай бұрын

Completely agree. Don't see why it's expensive and not a basic standard thing for all cars. It's a complete game changer for keeping your eyes on the road. In particular for Tesla-style cost-cutting by putting a single display in the center -- that's unsafe, but when you add a simple HUD right in front of the driver, it's completely sensible and livable.

Best presenter

Just spotted you can’t open the sliding door when charging?

For those of you who say it's too large there is also a Mifa7.

It’s a really good car obviously but it has so many different names it’s really confusing. In some countries it’s sold under the name of Maxus Mifa 9, others MG8, and now LDV?

Now i can shift my three under fives and all my dogs on electric!

Those massive seats just add to it's ridiculous weight

So, will the auto door cut the charging cord off? That is the real question.

LDV LDV Leyland Daf Vans Light Delivery Vehicle.

Weight-based taxes, no matter what power train the vehicle has, is from my perspective fair. And might even drive the sale of EVs with shorter range (perhaps as 2nd vehicle)...

I have a Maxus RV. It's great.

No Android Auto support would be a deal breaker for many in Europe where it has 66% market share.

I payed less for my villa in a Swedish small town 14 years ago. But I guess rich people need car's too.

CITROËN PICASSO SPACETOURER EV! Hello Stellantis?

LDV actually goes waaay back further in British history, beyond supplying vehicles for ambulances and the post office. After an ownership stint in the Netherlands and even Russia 'LDV' finished it's tour in China. It stands for 'Leyland DAF Vans.' Anyone fondly remember Leyland? No?

@reggiebuffat

3 ай бұрын

DAF? I remember Daf! They were good vans.

@AJames-jr8kw

3 ай бұрын

The original CVT

@John-FourteenSix

3 ай бұрын

Leyland. Sadly not much there from what I can see.

Initial image looks like it has been in a side-on collision. Front looks like a Walrus. Bit of a design fail.

I like to call it the Mafia 9.