So 63% of new car buyers are fleet buyers... they are heavily incentivised into EVs... but when those EVs come off the lease, there isn't an appetite for them in the 2nd hand market... so it's really quite simple to see why the 2nd hand prices of EVs are bombing because supply is far outstripping demand. the government can publish whatever they like and blame Rowan Atkinson but that's the simple facts and maths of it.

@WouterHermans

3 ай бұрын

These cars are not going to the second hand market yet. The second hand car market is now suffering from too much stock after the post Covid supply chain crisis, when residuals went up, and now come down again.

@MrAlpinab7

3 ай бұрын

@@jone8626 Hear hear !!

@splashmaster2000

3 ай бұрын

@@jone8626 My Jag always breaks down, so I'll never buy another car with a combustion engine. That's the level of your logic.

@emailstomarek

3 ай бұрын

​@@splashmaster2000 will never buy Jag only! 😂

@RandyRodgirth

3 ай бұрын

@@WouterHermansover 700 Taycan’s and over 700 e-Tron’s on auto trader right now, with Taycan’s starting in the £40k region and e-Trons less than £20k. They definitely are starting to outstrip demand in the 2nd hand market.

Harry, I did agree with you 100%, but that has already dropped to 87%...

@petemulhearn7787

3 ай бұрын

😂👍

@Andy_Holbrook332

3 ай бұрын

That’s brilliant humour!!

@Vattiis_Happonnen

3 ай бұрын

@adrianrowden8266 what kind of climate are you in? 😂😂 I suspect I won't get much back from commenting, despite the incentives

@daverich3352

3 ай бұрын

It might come back up when the weather warms up.

@richardmosley4549

3 ай бұрын

I live in a hot country so I can only half agree with you....!

This is my first time listening to Harry's garage. Brilliant presentation. Clear, logical issues and discussion. Tks heaps from Melbourne!!

What a breath of fresh air and common sense. I couldn’t agree more.

@aequlasr

Ай бұрын

Fresh air‽

@cyjanek7818

Ай бұрын

What fresh air lmao, you like it because you agree with the title and that's it. Same things are being said since 2012 at least

@BillClinton228

9 күн бұрын

In my country EV's cost double and in some cases triple the price of internal combustion engine cars... plus power is not cheap here unless you have solar. So there's really no incentive for anyone to buy EV's and if car dealers stop selling EV's they will go out of business because people will just drive and repair their old cars. Even rental companies dont offer EV's here because it doesn't make any sense. The world isn't the UK or America, so good luck phasing ICE cars out by 2030, you will go out of business very quickly.

I think that the worst problems with new cars are the driver interference and distraction systems.

@harrysgarage

3 ай бұрын

I’m saving that one for another video 😉

@malcolmhardwick4258

3 ай бұрын

And all those dings and dongs !

@SimonLloydGuitar

3 ай бұрын

They are so clever, that they are stupid.

@Iceeeen

3 ай бұрын

@@harrysgarage Really wish journalist would start to acutally talk about how bad many of theese systems work. How in there right mind thought is was god to make it mandatory. They are horrible on any other than a bright sunny july day, not to talk about when it's snow on the road. Then this madness about going full touch screen. Whyyyy, it's so slow to use, the Van at work was a diesel and is now electric of the same model (due to the same reason mentioned here + to please the investors). But for some reason they felt the need to fit it with a utterly garbage touch screen that takes forever to just boot up. Not to talk about to just change the stupid radio station. also the sound qulity has gone down the drain, it's sound utterly garbage It also used to beep at everyting but solwed that with driving a screw driver through the speaker. Oh heavens the quiteness.....

@jonathancarson1974

3 ай бұрын

The headlights are becoming an issue. I struggle to drive at night in the rain with oncoming traffic. They need dialled down, a LOT.

22:23 Strongly agree on putting an efficiency rating on electric cars, they put it on TVs and other electric appliances why not on cars? Just because there are "zero" emissions doesn't mean you get to comsume all the electricity without care, resources are needed to produce electricity with or without fossil fuels.

@SHRModding

3 ай бұрын

Wow didn't expect to see you here lol

@cyman777

3 ай бұрын

That is such BS since BEV are so much more efficient already. Also, a stronger BEV does not mean it is less efficient - on the contrary - it can recoup more electricy into the battery when braking.

@QALibrary

3 ай бұрын

A lot of EV people want that to happen and have been pushing for it

@_chipchip

3 ай бұрын

@@cyman777It’s not BS. More mass, means more power is required to move it. Look at the size of the battery on the new hummer. There’s a reason it’s a bit bigger than a Prius!

@xxxxxtrxxx13

3 ай бұрын

​@@cyman777 We are talking about the efficency of the vehicle, not just the powertrain alone, pal

My 17 years old corolla still has 100% mile efficiency.

@therpope

11 күн бұрын

Except it needs to be serviced twice a year

@tchauish

11 күн бұрын

@@therpope Service is cheap

@BillClinton228

9 күн бұрын

I don't understand the problem, if your EV doesn't give you the performance you want just give it to your butler and buy a new one.... easy solution

@timothykeith1367

7 күн бұрын

​​@@therpopeOil changes are mostly done by gravity in a Corolla, but you can also suction the oil out the top. Some vehicles have difficult to reach oil filters.

@organickevinlondon

Күн бұрын

BUT, after 17 years, '@7,500 miles per year, it's banged out about 25 tons of CO2. @ 1 and 1/2 tons per year.

I work in the used car industry everything this man is saying is true. Used EV sales are bombing HARD

@PazLeBon

Ай бұрын

ok as a second emergency car that you can trickle charge. about it. when they hit 5k might get i suppose

@Cecil-yc6mc

Ай бұрын

*if* that we true then it's only going to increase EV adoption

@PazLeBon

Ай бұрын

@@Cecil-yc6mc like old laptops and phones?

@dm0065

Ай бұрын

​@Cecil-yc6mc You're looking at it strangely I think. If you have to dump a product at pennies on the dollar to shift it thats hardly a time to get bullish on the future of that product.

@Karl-Benny

Ай бұрын

Because they are waiting for the new tech and cheaper EV Im Pro PHEV it makes sense

It was high time for someone to say how things really are, giving fact and figures to support their speech. Thumbs up for you Harry!

If ever there was a Harry's Garage episode that should take 4 hours... this is it!!! Brilliant insight!!!

@Rickwardful

3 ай бұрын

For the first time since the L320, the RRS looks pretty again!

@grahamcook9289

3 ай бұрын

Hardly. I wonder what has really upset Harry?

@FenderUsa

3 ай бұрын

@@grahamcook9289 don't like what ya heard eh?

@v12-s65

3 ай бұрын

@@grahamcook9289 you heard him right mate, spoke nothing but facts

@mw8653

2 ай бұрын

Quentin Wilson would be pulling his hair out watching this.

What a great video! I could not have explained all of those points in the video any better. I think that everyone who is contemplating buying a new car should watch this video. Thanks for taking the time to explain in a way that is easy to understand.

The 7% of total CO2 from cars/bikes was a real shock … and absolutely agree that manaufacturers are too focussed on the wrong performance, bring down costs and increase distance … who really gives a jot about 0-60 … my friend has stepped out of the i-Pace after 3-yrs (£77k new, trade in £21k!!!!!) for petrol Q5 and now enjoys driving again

@jonasweber9408

Ай бұрын

7% may not be enough to justify the little discomfort he has to go through of having to wait more time at a charger but for the 8 billion people not as old as him it will be a question of life and death…

@andrewtempest6792

Ай бұрын

@@jonasweber9408 Electric cars do not result in zero CO2, just less. If if all cars on the road were electric, total CO2 would be reduced by a lot less than 7%.

@jonasweber9408

Ай бұрын

@@andrewtempest6792 yes of course I know It depends of a lot of variables nether the less switching to EVs while greatly reducing the number of cars on the road is better than doing nothing… 😞 And it deeply sadden me as a passionate of cars

@sirrathersplendid4825

Ай бұрын

You do realise that the electricity ⚡️ used to power an EV is not CO2 free? Also scrapping ICE cars prematurely, long before they’re worn out, has a massive cost in terms of the emissions to build a new vehicle.

@sierraecho884

17 күн бұрын

Why thou ? Who gives a shit about CO2, I drive my Polo from 2011 with over 230k km still, the thing cost me 10k back in the day. I could never drive that cheap owning an EV.

28 minutes and 45 seconds of pure common sense . I learnt a lot . Thank you Harry .

@RobH.

3 ай бұрын

Only half the story, but if that's what you want to hear, then fair enough!

@motri5935

3 ай бұрын

What is the othwr half? ​@@RobH.

@westers1514

3 ай бұрын

@@RobH. Yes, what's the other half of the story? Or is your post nonsense with no evidence to back up your claims?

@Exogensis

3 ай бұрын

@@RobH.That’s a throwaway comment if ever I saw one. The Internet is full of them these days 😂

@womblechops

3 ай бұрын

​@@motri5935he's a bit glib but I think Harry did briefly cover the other side of the coin when he did refer to the overall drive of carbon reduction. Where harry slightly gets it not "wrong" but badly valued is where he talks about the "cars are only 7% of emissions" and people may take it as an excuse that we shouldnt bother. The fact is 7% is still massive! I really like this video and I personally took it as guidance on what we should be doing to get it right and not why we shouldn't all throw it in and buy a diesel.

Absolutely brilliant journalism, you need to make a speech in front of the House of Commons

@peterream9437

3 ай бұрын

Wouldn't happen unfortunately as we'd all realise , that yet again the government tells lies. Just look at Tony Blair ...Weapons of mass destruction.

@kevinashurst634

3 ай бұрын

please don't. Harrys reasons for not buying an EV are pretty weak.

@marwood1969

3 ай бұрын

@@kevinashurst634 You mean like the cost, the resale, the range, the problems with insurance and the vanishing battery power? Yes, what WAS he going on about?

@Spleen214

3 ай бұрын

@@kevinashurst634I think you accidentally watched one video and commented on this one by mistake!

@PiefacePete46

3 ай бұрын

@@kevinashurst634 : Our only car is an EV, and we are smitten with it. This video raises questions for us; I would not dismiss it lightly. The EV works great for us. It would not work well enough to consider for four out of five of our neighbours. There is a really strong case for use as a second car.

Harry, thank you for putting this across so comprehensively, and fairly. Spot on!

Excellent talk. Thank you. RS. Canada

I can't think of a presenter better suited to expounding upon these truths than Harry Metcalfe. Thank you, sir, for being a stoic & eloquent voice of reason in this current climate of idiocy.

@EP-bb1rm

3 ай бұрын

The battery degradation was a car with nearly 250,000km on it.

@johnh3095

3 ай бұрын

He made his points very well. I think one area where EVs make perfect sense (apart from their current massive sizes and weights) would be in big cities. EV delivery vans and an EV K-car culture (little Honda E, VW e-Up etc) around places like London would be great. Quiet, being used in the environment they are made for, not 2.7ton SUV EVs that only ever see a kerb at their local schools! I lived in Germany for close to 15years. If you wanted to buy a car (pre EVs) the dealer would ask you what sort of journeys you did mainly, and how many Km a year. If you said I do 5000km in and around town doing errands etc, they would almost refuse to sell you a diesel as that would not make sense. If however you did 30,000km mostly shooting between big cities on the autobahn, a diesel was your only option! I have a diesel now, however after moving house and WFH being enforced on me, we do bugger all long journeys, so a small petrol or an EV home charged would be perfect! Euro standards made engines get more efficient, but OEMs then made their cars fatter negating all those gains! Battery health and a proper Use Case profile should be used to steer you towards your next car! Great you chose the diesel, but I still can't understand why it had to be an SUV and not a large Estate! BMW 5 series with an efficient 2.0 TDI! I'd go for the Skoda Superb, it's superb in every way!

@philiphawkins4684

2 ай бұрын

Didn't mention that local pollution for electricity is zero... While however good thinks his diesel is it still producing heavy particle pollution that causes cancer.

@Superman-nn4nw

Ай бұрын

At the end of the day nobody is going to tell me what I drive. It’s down to personal opinion. If you don’t like EV’s then don’t buy one simple.

@yelapa999

13 күн бұрын

@@philiphawkins4684 Yes, for pollution yo need to consider the pollution that may not be local-at the source(s) of electricity, many of which merrily continue to produce CO2 in order to produce those, ahem, "green" electrons.

As an EV owner of 5 years and also a 6 cylinder petrol car, this is one of the best and most balanced videos I’ve seen about EVs and agree with pretty much everything you say

@doriangray6985

2 ай бұрын

As an EV owner yourself what is your opinion of EVs?

@Mattceeee

2 ай бұрын

@@doriangray6985 I love the way they drive, the instant torque and speed of them and they are very cheap to run if home charging on a good EV tariff. I very rarely public charge so that makes life less stressfull and much cheaper. Remote heating and cooling is ace as Is the defrost function. The Tesla app is miles ahead of anything else out there too, whether EV or ICE. Having no key as such, no on/off button and just using a phone which automatically locks and unlocks as you walk up to it makes it a breeze. But… depreciation is horrible on them, they are very difficult to trade in at most dealers and I wouldn’t buy one personally. Like prob 90% of owners, (from what main dealers say the figure is vs personal buyers), the tax breaks, low BIK is what made me (my company) get one so it was really sold on incentives rather than me actually wanting one. Take away these incentives for tax etc and I would imagine the EV market would almost collapse overnight.

@robg521

Ай бұрын

This is the only scenario where it will work. A little EV charging up at home where you only ever run it to the shops and back, [so maximum lifetime capacity for the batteries is maintained] and also own an ICE engine car to use for when you need to use a vehicle to actually do anything.

Excellent presentation. Thank you.

This is absolutely brilliant Harry, thanks for putting the video together. Very, very informative and has helped me decide on the energy input for my next car!

Journalistic integrity, something lost long ago in the car review world in preference to advertising cash and pandering to manufacturers to ensure they are invited to test the future cars. Love what you're doing Harry and thanks for doing it.

@AKA001

3 ай бұрын

Wow. Quoting James Titcomb and Matt Oliver from the Telegraph... two "men" paid to side with the conservative, fossil fuelers. Then quoting a failing Toyota chairman who has company in shambles with a debt to equity ratio of 0.59 versus Tesla's 0.07. Toyota has over $220 billion in debt. Tesla virtually $0. Toyota only makes $1200 per car sold. Tesla's profit per car? $8279. That is why the prices are dropping. The fact that Tesla can drop their new car prices, means the used EV market is dropping as well. EV retain approximately 48% of their value after 5 years, versus ICE cars, which is around the 40% mark. The fact list goes on. You most entitled to owning a diesel soccer mum pusher. Enjoy standing at the bowser at $1.88 a litre and being left at the light by a stock standard BYD.

@lesgrosshans2266

3 ай бұрын

There is no journalistic integrity in the USA.

@kramer26

3 ай бұрын

I believe manufacturers come to Harry precisely for his unbiased, real-world and zero bullshit reviews and feedback on their products...

@jameslove888

2 ай бұрын

You’re forgetting Harry’s role as a consultant for JLR, I am sure that has no bearing on what he is plugging here. Pardon the pun.

@deanfielding4411

2 ай бұрын

@@kramer26You can’t say he was unbiased. I can’t help feeling like he’s been quite negative about EVs here. Why did he cherry pick the huge anomaly of the 2011 nissan leaf that had know battery issues to highlight degradation?

Bjorn is terrific. I am glad you have found him.

Thank you Harry. Great video with sound reasons for your purchase.

By Far the best video I have seen discussing the realities of electric vehicles. So much wisdom here. Subscribed & Thank You.

Harry I live in a council flat. I’m on the breadline but even if I could afford a car I’ve 0 chances of home charging . Like millions of others who can just about afford an old fiesta or something. Love your vids on both channels ❤❤

@julianevans9548

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. EVs - if you live in a flat, you're screwed. Or do you have the spare time to spend (approximate figures) an hour charging for every 200 miles you want to drive? The major problem is not EVs - it’s the lack of a charging network. The people who ignore that are the ‘I’m alright, Jack, I charge at home’ brigade - great for you, not for others. (Oh, and if an EV works for your particular situation, do tell us all, because that means they work for everyone.)

@mr488gto8

3 ай бұрын

Me 2 👍

@rocklover7437

3 ай бұрын

People falling over extension cables because you haven't got a off street drive way and claiming off insurance companies will also be a problem

@Franksey180

3 ай бұрын

When EV's first became a thing I thought of exactly your situation. In densely populated areas with apartment / high rise homes, what was supposed to be the charging solution even if everyone could afford an EV? Would there be a new mass construction of "Park and Ride" type sites - "Park and Charge" (and ride a bus back to your home location which may not be five minutes walk away?). Also if "Park and Charge" (on large scale) sites existed, imagine the safety risk of having that many Lithium batteries in one location.

@tonyb3629

3 ай бұрын

@@julianevans9548 There *are* many problems with EV's, and it's not just the charging network. Upfront cost, depreciation, insurance etc.

The man is a genius - proper car journalism - informative and gives you a real world insight into what is what!

@kevinashurst634

3 ай бұрын

sorry no, it was poor, About as good as Mr Beans article in teh Guardian.

@S-Ltd1000

3 ай бұрын

Geoff buys cars KZread has been covering this subject for the last couple of years.

@kevinashurst634

3 ай бұрын

@@S-Ltd1000 yes he has. To be fair he does great click bait, but sadly short on facts, like his stupid oppo macmaster. They are youtube prostitutes.

Well done mate. Got a modern 8 seater van diesel which I love and was thinking of getting rid of it because of a kinda guilt feeling. But now you've taken all the geek work out for me and laid it out nicely. I'll be travelling Europe in it soon and know now it's the right vehicle to use. What a wonderful and much needed informational chapter. Always have watch you. Admire your brains. Thank you for doing this.

Superb Video , explained everything so clearly and to the point, well done.👍

"If I want to drive something quick,. I've got the toys" - proceeds to point at the Lamborghinis 😀. Never change Harry!

@robbrent

3 ай бұрын

“Something very quick surely”🤔😂 not that a RRS is not fast by many standards.

@martinmoore7551

2 ай бұрын

Don't you just love his humour.

Finally, a mature, balanced assessment and a genuine reality check. Thanks Harry

such a great presentation thank you Harry

Excellent and straight to the point, sir. Keep on the good work!

Watching Harry throughout this video, was like walking into a classroom and sitting there as a very smart professor, gives you a lesson in a subject and you suddenly just get it!! Many people could have waffled on for hours but Harry, you managed to get so much details and information into a relatively short 28 minutes. The current car market place has so many similar traits, as when back in 2006/7, manufacturers were seemingly only pushing diesel as the solution to reduce Co2 emissions. We all know how that turned out, sticking diesel engines into cars that should never have had them and selling them to people who should never have bough them (like city runabouts, only doing short, stop-start trips). It very much feels like that again, only this time manufacturers have put literally everything into EV, with no alternative or backup plan. Absolutely brilliant job there Harry.

@EP-bb1rm

3 ай бұрын

Surely the alternative to diesel was petrol, hybrids and diesels... Or did they appear from nowhere?

@arnoldmiga5689

3 ай бұрын

the reason was the road tax @@EP-bb1rm

Mind boggling levels of sensible and logical thinking from Harry.

@mrmartin2079

3 ай бұрын

There always is ,thankfully

@StuartPlumbley

3 ай бұрын

What's mind boggling is the people making the decisions about what we will be allowed to drive in the future don't seem to have the same levels of sensible

@eugenux

3 ай бұрын

actually nothing is sensible. It is clear that none of you live in a big city; if you did, the noxes and diesel fumes would make you want to have the power to remove all diesels from existence. Trust me on this one. (from a diesel owner in the mid 2000s) edit. imo, diesels should be banned from getting into cities or alternatively, their owners charged hard for taking their cars within city limits. If you live in a quiet town or village, in the country-side, I understand why you cannot relate to this situation but, trust me when I'm saying it.. I am sick and tired to breath diesel fumes just from going on a walk in the neighborhood. We, those who live in the cities, have the right to breath clean air as well.

@brogenville

3 ай бұрын

@@eugenux that’s fine, but the reality is that not everyone does live in a city. And even the people that do are still entirely dependant on countless diesel vehicles serving their needs. Needs that are not close to being met by BEV vehicles. Speak to people in the Scottish highlands about how well electric cars work for them…

@v12-s65

3 ай бұрын

@@eugenux what fricking diesel fumes if it's a euro 6d car? Come on stop the bullshitting. I got a diesel for long distances not for a damned city

Great video, absolutley super. Thank you for this

Thanks for making this video and really educational

You're a flippin' legend Harry! Thanks for summing it up so well.

Probably the best video ive seen anyone produce so far explaining how it is and with the right suggestions to move forward. 10/10 Mr Metcalfe

That was a very detailed and fair assessment in my book. Thank you for your time and dedication to bringing Real News to us all. SUBSCRIBED :)

@jonasweber9408

Ай бұрын

But the guy is clueless on a lot of things about EVs, why do you listen to him in the first place?

@tug1345

Ай бұрын

​@jonasweber9408 On what things is he clueless, he talks about cars he's ran and had experience with

@bigdh2os814

Ай бұрын

@@jonasweber9408 some people just want their belief / position on a subject to be the right and only one. Open your eyes , ears, & mind to listen to reason. Then make your own educated decision for yourself. I made mine.

@jonasweber9408

Ай бұрын

@@bigdh2os814 no but mate I’m not talking about opinions, if this guy said to you “you can put gas into a diesel car” you would not give credit to the guy. That’s kind of the level of technically he has about EVs, I can’t take him seriously about EVs when he’s wrong about some basics…

@bigdh2os814

Ай бұрын

@@jonasweber9408 And that's your Opinion that you so deserve.

I am glad your garage hasn't gone up in fire.

Best video I have seen all year. Proper journalism, proper reasoning, this is what we need. I really hope someone is listening because this needs to be heard

@johnsmith1474

3 ай бұрын

Any ordinary person knows all this, which is why they stay with gas.

@hacob2004

3 ай бұрын

@@johnsmith1474 Tons of people have no idea about things like battery degradation or the disaster that is the public charging network etc. They just hear EVs are the future and then buy one and end up finding that it's not as great as they were told and either have to stick it out or take or huge hit on the depreciation and switch back to ICE. This is good advice

@Nick.Colemann

3 ай бұрын

Agree, Some of Harry's best work. Great logic

@fatfreddyscoat7564

3 ай бұрын

Nobody in power cares.

@richardcarter1000

3 ай бұрын

We have an opportunity to vote out anyone in power this year who wants to keep up the Net Zero insanity and war on the motorist​@@fatfreddyscoat7564

Bjorn is a legend! 💯

@brembodream

2 ай бұрын

Agree🤩 Bjørn Nyland is the reason we bought our S85D in 2015. Greetings from Oslo Norway😊

Very rich, informative, verifiable and real-world analysis. Thank you

Very sensible and thorough video. Thank you!

This is by far the best video I have seen explaining how the car market is heading...thank you Harry.

I'm in my late 50s and I've just bought myself a little Peugeot 107 (which is effectively a Toyota Aygo.) I was just sick of being fleeced by the government on road tax, paying through the nostrils for fuel and watching cars sit in the office car park depreciating. As 95% of my driving is around town a petrol city car makes sense and the best thing is it's an absolute hoot to drive. 68bhp is enough in a tiny car on city roads. I've had all sorts of vehicles from rip-snorting motorbikes to flaying carpet luxury cars but this little Peugeot is an absolute gem. It feels like a spiritual successor to the original Mini. It's basic motoring and that suits me fine..

@dennis3779

2 ай бұрын

Have you seen the bill for replacing a worn wiper motor on those cars 🤔

@dennis3779

2 ай бұрын

You use all of your 68 hp so you are continually throttling it to top revs without even having some payload or mountains well that is efficient and especially fun 👍

@GT-pl1wx

2 ай бұрын

So true! I borrowed a Citroen C1 (same car) from my brother for about two weeks. It always made me smile. Fun to drive, easy to park and cheap to be fueled!

@robertkubrick3738

2 ай бұрын

I suspect this is the same car as a Toyota Wigo, which is a rebadged Daihatsu.

@wizzyno1566

2 ай бұрын

​@robertkbrick3738 The Aygo/C1/107 was a new design all built on the same line in Czechoslovakia, shared costs between the two manufacturers (Citroen and Peugeot really being 1 manufacturer). Daihatsu had nothing to do with it.

The best automotive journalist out there! Harry you are old enough to be my dad, driven everything on the planet, delivered intelligently 10/10

I was sceptical about EVs from when they first appeared, never had one and never will

This video is an oasis of calm amidst the current insanity. Thank you!

Nicely delivered - no emotion, factual and without an agenda. St Harry of Metcalfe thank you.

Go Harry go .You are really good highlighting the v.many faults / difficulties attached to owning an electric car.

Incredibly well put together, glad I've seen this video now before going down the EV Route. The details on the range is staggering.

Genuinely think electric should be for city cars / bike / electric scooters. Keep them cheap and cheerful

@colin5577

3 ай бұрын

100%. I’ve an i3S and though I think it’s brilliant, I’d be the first to admit that in many ways it’s a glorified pram and in no way replaces an actual car with a Winter range of less than 200 miles. It goes back in March and I won’t be getting another EV.

@humphreybradley3060

3 ай бұрын

I’ve driven an EV for 4 years, used it for road trips all over Europe. So that statement is not correct

@kevinharker1840

3 ай бұрын

Agree.

@iandavidson99

3 ай бұрын

12 years ago Renault showed us the way with the Twizy (2012). I have one and love it!

@rocklover7437

3 ай бұрын

India use CNG powered cars ,trucks and buses .Some of the CNG is made from household waste .Twin scuba diving sized tanks don't rob boot space like LPG tanks .

Coming down from a 2.0l diesel Subaru Forester which could achieve 55mpg on a motorway run (loved that car) which could climb a snowy single track in the snow, I moved down to a Mazda CX3 1.5 diesel which is cramped but does never less than 65mpg and 75 mpg with a soft foot and has a mere £30 road tax. A no brainer when you're just an average pensioner and have to travel at least 10 miles to the nearest supermarket. I suspect this is the real world for most folk. I fill up once every 2 months.

@ruedipreiss3654

2 ай бұрын

Hyundai Kona Electric, 4yo on Autotrader at £13,495, still 1yr manufacturer warranty (4 years on battery and drivetrain), zero road tax, easily goes 250 miles/charge - you could do your supermarket run at least 12 times with that. £60 worth of charging = 2550 miles (incl. 15% charging loss), how far do you get with £60 worth of diesel in the CX3? How often have I changed brake pads and discs over the last 5 years / 110k miles? Never.

@wagmiorngmi

2 ай бұрын

Your 75mpg is great, but the car will have disintegrated on your driveway after a couple of years as they don't put any anti-corrosion treatment on them. The days of well built Mazdas are but a distant memory.

@russellaycock3703

2 ай бұрын

I wish we could get the Forester diesel (and Toyota diesel pick up trucks) in the U.S. 55 mpg is extraordinary, not to mention 75!

@loungelizard836

2 ай бұрын

Americans would never buy those little cars, diesel or not. We have a 20 year old Prius that still gets 45 mpg at 65 mph and around 40 in city. But everyone around us has huge trucks and large SUVs because fuel is cheap.

@loungelizard836

2 ай бұрын

If you are using Imperial gallons, then your Subaru would still be getting a respectable 45mpg (US gallon = 3.8 L), which is rather surprising even for a small SUV, but moreso because those are 4wd!

Very good breakdown. Thank you for this!

Many thanks. i understand your views. Still running my 12 reg mondeo diesel.

Just brilliantly presented facts that seem to not be understood by the media at large. Every politician should be made to watch this video.

@JonathanCheeseman

2 ай бұрын

It doesn't matter how brilliantly presented the facts are, they will not persuade politicians to become apostates from the new religion of net zero.

@Davidl-ux5ke

2 ай бұрын

harry and clarkson should be in charge

@Denise-vn8wz

2 ай бұрын

UK Politicians don't seem to like EVs themselves, so why should the VOTERS?

@fredfred2363

2 ай бұрын

Sadly our politicians are very much misguided and misinformed these days. The lobby groups with the most convincing stories (even if completely untrue) are being believed. I don't know how we can fix that. And educated politicians don't make good media personalities. It's almost like, if you can speak well and are entertaining but know nothing, you'll do as our leader. SMH.

If politicians tell you to do something, the opposite is usually the better option.

@linuxtuxfriend9155

2 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, the tax payers have to foot the bill anyway, paying for the stupid decisions politicians made.

@shadowx2k2007

2 ай бұрын

Yep, like labelling people who gosh give roper advice on EV's is somehow "hurting" EV sales!

@milhouse147

2 ай бұрын

This applies to all areas of life! ;)

@barry5138

2 ай бұрын

I'd replace usually with always!!!!

@fromalandfarfaraway4192

2 ай бұрын

My experience, but it is more like always and not usually.

Every thing you say is spot on! I wish more people understood all this.

Very well done. An honest assessment finally presented and with data to back it up.

Harry’s point 3, a reality check. A car is a device for moving people and things from A to B. It should be comfortable, efficient and safe for those inside and outside. The motor industry, consumer mentality and the financial services have got us here. We only have to stop buying for a few years. No one “needs” a new car after 3 years, we could think about buying cars that could be serviced and repaired at reasonable prices. When the factories get constipated maybe they’ll change their diet.

@Leonardo555ZZZ

2 ай бұрын

The customer is always right ,,,needs to be remembered.

@jameslove888

2 ай бұрын

@@Leonardo555ZZZsaid by someone who doesn’t deal with customers. They’re quite often wrong.

@brettsta72

2 ай бұрын

EVs last significantly longer than ICE and require less maintenance.

@Leonardo555ZZZ

2 ай бұрын

@@jameslove888 I dealt with customers for 17 years ,,,but you misunderstand ,,if customers stop buying a product , the makers are forced to change or else they will go out of business. In the end , the customers as a group , are always right and will be the ultimate decider of which products succeed and which fail.

@Leonardo555ZZZ

2 ай бұрын

@@brettsta72 That remains to be seen ,,,battery degradation is real and battery replacement is a significant cost.

What an absolutely brilliant informative and common sense video. Well done Harry for such an objective discussion - Hat's off to you Sir 👏 👍

@jimmybob3756

3 ай бұрын

Do remember that Harry also promoted full EV cars but now that the truth is out there his tune has changed.

Superb video and commentary. Agree with every one of your points. As a 7 year early adopter we have to see EVs as just part of the solution, not the only answer.

always worthy of a little listening time. All that technology shown and available on the dashboard and yet they hide the important stuff, great practical comments thanks.

Harry is so knowledgeable and is always able to explain it so well. Thank you, Harry 👍👍👍

Absolutely sensationally spot on video that EVERY car owner/buyer should watch.The analyzes are to perfection.Many thanks Harry for this amazing contribution to the subject!Needs to be spreed on socials

Bjorn does have some great videos. Very informative

Fantastic video, thank you Harry! I've been looking to switch to electric for a while but the conditions just are not right yet. I've resorted to getting an ebike and cycle more, bigger impact and fair bit of money saved.

Motoring journalism at it's finest 👍

@mariemccann5895

2 ай бұрын

If you like yesterday's thinking.

@lukestocks4370

2 ай бұрын

​​@@mariemccann5895 u can't be serious? have a little Joke with us I'm sure...😊

This one of your very best, Harry. You nailed all the issues.

@charlesrossbaronofbiggar1644

3 ай бұрын

Absolutely agree with you, madam or sir

@charlesrossbaronofbiggar1644

3 ай бұрын

Absolutely agree with you, madam or sir

@pachy444

3 ай бұрын

Most of those issues he nailed were big luxury car buyer issues though.

@pincermovement72

2 ай бұрын

Except saying we wanted to go on this co2 journey, I think it’s all crap.

@ricknowhere

2 ай бұрын

It would be even better if Harry addressed the bigger issue of the fact that Co2 is a trace gas with human contribution being insignificant.

Harry ... God Bless you sir. That was an excellent review. I was born and educated in the UK. I am a professional mechanical engineer - trained by Hawker Siddeley. I now live in Australia. I am a car enthusiast. I have a Jaguar F type, a Lotus Emira and an Audi TT for my wife. You hit the "nail on the head" !! I truly believe we have got it all wrong. The politicians and engineers have not thought this through at all. Well done Harry. Kindest regards, Stuart Courtley.

I have a Hyundai i-10. Bought it second hand with 50,000 miles on it. It does over 50mpg, £20 annual tax and is very cheap on maintenance. I only use it for popping about, about 3000 miles a year. Bloke at the garage told me as long as it's looked after should get 20 years of hassle free motoring from it, for virtually nothing. Cost me £3500 over two years ago, and I have not had a single problem with it. Starts first time and runs lovely. I don't get people who spend a fortune on cars.

@robertkubrick3738

2 ай бұрын

30 years ago Hyundai had some issues, a coworker had one and it was crap. Last year I bought 3 Hyundai Accent diesels for family members and I expect all of them to get 60mpg for at least 10 years use. Things have changed. Resale on your i-10 is very good here, they are liked.

@kevinheath7588

2 ай бұрын

@@robertkubrick3738 That's brilliant news...cheers :-)....You know I been kinda working it out...and I reckon if I buy another petrol car just before they stop selling them in 2035 and I can get say 15-20 years out of it...I will never need to go electric.

@robertkubrick3738

2 ай бұрын

@@kevinheath7588 Might get a couple late model and gently used for myself. Cheers

@sa_supercarz8499

2 ай бұрын

I have the Grand i10 and currently on 71 000 km have zero issues bought it Demo from the Dealer very affordable to run don’t see me selling it anytime soon

@kevinheath7588

2 ай бұрын

@@sa_supercarz8499 I just checked one of those Grand models out on Google, gets a really decent review and looks a fair bit better looks wise than my slightly older i-10 model, only thing is I can't find any here in the UK auto trader magazine, which is a shame.

Harry & team.. This vlog must be the most accurate and honest reasoning video I have ever seen, I can't argue with any of the facts you put forward... If only more people would just realise the actual numbers involved. Nice one, Regards Steve

One important point that was missed here was that we are constantly inhaling hazardous fumes that are injurious to health, often at times sitting in traffic. It's not about total carbon emissions.

Outstanding video, Harry. Really thorough consideration of many factors, all backed up by science/data -> extremely compelling. Thanks for steering me away from EVs - you have potentially saved me a lot of money and grief!

Bjorn Nyland is indeed doing a great job in comparing EV's.

@giuistefanjr72

3 ай бұрын

And most of them rather disappoint in terms of range and charging capacity,even with big battery

@amundalfredsen3479

3 ай бұрын

@@giuistefanjr72I disagree. We rarely use fast chargers and drive 20k+ km per year. EVs have more than enough range for most people. Bjørn has proven this over and over again with the 1000km challanges.

@ClarenceDold

2 ай бұрын

​@@amundalfredsen3479 We have driven our Chevrolet Bolt EUV comfortably for trips of 1200 miles. We stop to eat and charge, sleep and charge, and once a day, waste time for a charge. Most of the time, it is charging at home, and traveling anywhere in our metropolitan area of 7 million people.

@robertkubrick3738

2 ай бұрын

@@amundalfredsen3479 How much are you towing? Many people like to tow a caravan.

@StevieRayVoon

2 ай бұрын

in UK it seems that there are 550 000 caravans. Its like 1% of population?@@robertkubrick3738

How can Harry not be an advisor to the Government and industry. Outstanding explanation.

@eoinoconnell185

3 ай бұрын

Government don't want advisors to tell them the truth. They want advisors to tell them what they want to hear to justify policy decisions.

@johnbeckett2624

3 ай бұрын

Probably because Harry says things that most Politicians and Government don't want to hear.

@electricfelix

3 ай бұрын

because he is factually incorect #alwaysbecharging

@davepax982

3 ай бұрын

*incorrect 😅​@@electricfelix

@pachy444

3 ай бұрын

It's not an explanation, all he did was try to justify why he's getting a Diesel RR sport 😂

Absolutely brilliant take on the current state of the EV market. I've absolutely no plans to change to electric anytime soon, and after watching this great video I'm glad I haven't taken the plunge.

Finely put! I agree that this is one of your best videos! Masterclass in distorted market dynamics, you hit every single point: Customer needs vs absurd regulation, lack of proper information and facts, skewed stats, policy pushing and even a product being plain ugly because of design by committee, brilliant! Thank you!

Harry, you're a Legend 👏This video needs to go viral!

@charlesrossbaronofbiggar1644

3 ай бұрын

Absolutely!

@pachy444

3 ай бұрын

It's hardly breaking news that people want to keep driving big SUV Diesels..... That's why the government have had to legislate

@meofnz2320

3 ай бұрын

Why does it need to go viral? Because you have an irrational persecution complex?

@EP-bb1rm

3 ай бұрын

If it goes viral then he'll be fzct checked and realise half the stuff is factually incorrect.

Can we sue the manufacturers for falsely giving us range figures, just like the diesel MPG scandal??

Very enjoyable eye-opener on the pros and cons of EVs at present🤗

Terrific, factual content. Every motorist should watch this and start to educate themselves. Harry for Transport Minister!

@keefr22

3 ай бұрын

Every politician should watch it!

@The.Fake.Adam.Lulich

3 ай бұрын

And every non motorist as well.

Following Bjorn for years.. He has come longs way with knowledge of electrical cars. Very good videos .I think electrical car companies see his reviews.!

@rkan2

3 ай бұрын

Bjorn is the benchmark as far as I am concerned!

This is so very interesting! Thank you for taking the time to put it up in numbers, so that WE, the average users of cars, understand & can compare what we should do when we buy a new car. Up here, in Quebec Canada, electricity is cheap, but its real cost is what WE, as a country, CAN'T do with it...i.e. industry investments, etc. We are owners of a gas car, and we are looking at an EV, not to replace but to complement. We have needs (camping, vacationing, traveling, etc) and are NOT YET willing to let go of the flexibility of owning a gas car...but we understand we need to be better consumer!

A very honest review at last, enjoy the new car and safe driving

Your best video ever! Thank you for a sane argument presented with facts, evidence and clarity. You pulled no punches and made a superb case!

Hello from New Zealand Harry. Today February 15th 2024, Simon Barnett a host on Newstalk ZB, New Zealand , mentioned you and your views on EVs. Before this i had never heard of you, so after listening to your very logical and practical viewpoint on modern cars, i am going to subscribe to your channel. I can't afford a diesel Range Rover, such as you show here, but would love one, my favourite car. God bless you Sir, and lovely to have made your acquaintance. Robert. (83). NZ Veteran.

Thank you for your point - I really agree to what you‘ve stated about the design of cars (you used BMW as an example) 👍

Great video - backed up a lot of my concerns about EV's. The reality check section of the video was very inciteful. 👍

In Sweden there are used car companies who specialise in electric cars. They test the battery and you get a certificate detailing the condition, degradation, etc.

@Art-is-craft

3 ай бұрын

That is not going to convince people.

@robinwatts7079

3 ай бұрын

@@Art-is-craftWhy not?

@maxtorque2277

3 ай бұрын

@@Art-is-craft er, you can get your ICE "Inspected" by experts as well, and that convinces people. WHen i bought my M3 the owner had had a "condition inspection" report pepared by the AA (a UK motoring organsiation) and that seemed to be worth something? So why wouldn't a BEV that has been inspected be similarly worthwhile??

@ad_fletch

3 ай бұрын

Dogmatism

@asatoraegames4533

3 ай бұрын

Any EV buyer should demand this as part of the sale.

Well researched and measured presentation - Thank you!

Harry knows how to sort the wheat from the chaff. Excellent video - thanks!

Spot on your review. Let's hope those legislators listen and understand it

It's almost as if they don't want us 'peasants' driving cars anymore. But i'm sure you'll be fine Harry.

@shadowx2k2007

2 ай бұрын

Actually, if you live in London then you will know that "they" don't!

@mariemccann5895

2 ай бұрын

@@shadowx2k2007 Eh?

@mrfixit2788

2 ай бұрын

WEF 15 minute living zones

Thank you H for a balanced well researched FACTUAL report . Proper journalism. 😊

I really appreciate this well thought out perspective on electric vehicle use. I have been following electric vehicles for a long time and I find it useful seeing the perspective from someone who can afford to own an electric car and have other "toys" for when they need them. If it isn't working for someone who can afford it how are those of us who can't afford that luxury meant to manage when it is forced upon us. Electric vehicles have their place, but as a primary vehicle it just isn't there quite yet.

Thank you for your clear explanation. The prices are beyond most people. I never believe that they could solve polution problem.

There's a massive mis-match between what they are producing and what people want. Real working people haven't got wheelbarrows of cash they can afford to lose in massive depreciation, let alone the cost of a new vehicle these days.

@barry5138

2 ай бұрын

That's the hook, they don't want normal people to have private transport.

Finally someone who has the balls to call out why EV’s aren’t the best option no matter what Billy Bullshit Government officials come out with. Keep up the great work

@DAVIDE-bk8by

3 ай бұрын

Plenty of the other channels doing the same for ages...'Geoff Buys Cars' for example

@geebee6737

3 ай бұрын

@@DAVIDE-bk8by Geoff Buys Cars just jumped on the MacMaster bandwagon.....those that are savvy already knew this EV dream was exactly that , a dream 🤣

@danharold3087

2 ай бұрын

He said they are making the wrong cars. Because we can build powerful EVs does not mean that is the only sort we should be making. I agree. Love or Hate Tesla they are still leading the pack in most aspects of EVs.

@ianthompson2516

2 ай бұрын

Charge at home £5.77 for 250 miles what is not to like plus de-seisel particulates and asthma and climate change ffs

@Nordjyden9000

2 ай бұрын

@@ianthompson2516 The price of energy is set by political reasons. Diesel particles is not a problem anymore. Climate change is a natural thing, and there is no climate-crisis. Some diesels, Mercedes is one of them, emit pure breathable air . A Mercedes EV in Germany, is powered by electricity made by burning lignite, the most polluting fuel known, except for burning used tires.