I think being friends with someone with “different beliefs” and being friends with a person who denies one of worst atrocities in modern history and says that h*tler is a good person is very different

@crystalwolfe6794

3 жыл бұрын

She has said she’s stopped associating with him once that came to light

@MichelleNovalee

3 жыл бұрын

@@crystalwolfe6794 good point. Someone could be friends with a closeted serial killer. Does that make everyone who’s been friends with them serial killers too?

@boop3260

3 жыл бұрын

@@crystalwolfe6794 Yea but she was still associating with him before it did. Not like she didn't know about it then.

@crystalwolfe6794

3 жыл бұрын

@@boop3260 That’s not your place to assume AT ALL, and it’s literally cyber bullying to make that assumption and smear her on the internet for it. You know how many friends and family I cut off this year for letting their ignorant “political views” show during the election, and when my state issued the mask mandate? Quite a plenty, because I didn’t have a single clue they had such ignorant perceptions. People can be “good” in all other areas of their lives, and have an extremely disgusting view or 2, it’s obviously not going to come to light right off the bat with everyone, most people with these terroristic views know that most people don’t agree with them, and would probably beat their ass if they heard those views, so they keep them silent till they can no longer hide it.

@jaqu9001

3 жыл бұрын

depends on what level you choose to engage with that friend, but at the same time she seems to publicly endorse him so it's a pretty shitty look regardless.

damn you really love doubling-down on how you weren't just full of terrible, unsubstantiated takes on BLM and race issues in general...you're allergic to criticism the way you're saying kristina is.

@TheLstark

3 жыл бұрын

!!!!!!!!!!

@BJ-yy6ei

3 жыл бұрын

Gurlll

@Sam-xr8ne

3 жыл бұрын

blm are marxists!

@annabrand2249

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sam-xr8ne are you being sarcastic? Please tell me you are.

@Sam-xr8ne

3 жыл бұрын

@@annabrand2249 they said it themselves.

She painted her whole body black and then painted fruits and vegetables over that black "canvas". I have a hard time calling that racist. Yet.... I get it : haters hate. And there's no way to stop them from engaging in their favourite pastime.

@75Cee

10 ай бұрын

Great point! Thank you for clarifying!

@loopeterno

7 ай бұрын

Why racist?

@klassy86

Ай бұрын

Look up Black face ​@@loopeterno

While I agree with you sometimes on Kristina, you really should educate yourself on how you address racism. Your handling of the concerns raised by the affected community is piss-poor, to be quite frank. This is one of those "less talking and more listening" moments. Kinda disappointing tbh.

@emerald-kl9st

3 жыл бұрын

but telling her to talk less and listen more is apparently racist (towards her) *slaps face*

@giuliaromano3174

3 жыл бұрын

Piss poor is right. She’s smart. Her handling of racial issues on this channel doesn’t cut it. I’m so disappointed by her dismissive attitude and simplistic approach towards racism. I don’t have to agree with everything a youtuber says but this crosses a line for me. It sucks to have to distance myself from a channel i valued so much. I’m hopeful tho, so I’ll keep checking in occasionally to see if she’s acknowledged her ongoing ignorance towards the issue, but for now we’re right to expect more from her.

@Itsunclegabby

3 жыл бұрын

Disappointed, but NOT SURPRISED.

@cigiss

3 жыл бұрын

Yes she should do everything she can to please you

@emerald-kl9st

3 жыл бұрын

@@cigiss way to completely miss everyone's point(s) lol

I disagree with you about "anyone can be friends". I just can't condone someone who minimizes or condones genocide, and if someone is friends with someone who believes those things, it changes my perspective of them.

@Nicotine027

3 жыл бұрын

Swayze has to say that because she herself would be friends with that type of person (because she is also that type of person)

@kumatobazha4003

3 жыл бұрын

I think thats a shame, I am friends with plenty of people who sometimes do or have beliefs i don't agree with, and who might do things I don't agree with. But they are still my friends. Life is big and people are varied and I think its such a shame when people are so caught up judging and distancing when that helps nothing. If you want to change or influence people its easier to do it from a friendly understanding position. Plus you miss out on so much pushing people away because they don't agree with you on everything 100%

@amrisallemand7095

3 жыл бұрын

@@kumatobazha4003 you're buds with folks who are supportive of genocide? Dope.

@Nicotine027

3 жыл бұрын

@@kumatobazha4003 I don’t need to be friends with people who support the systematic oppression of people who look like me.

@amrisallemand7095

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nicotine027 100%

“I’d be parading his ass around my Instagram too”

@BauerBeauty

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@bigsister9354

3 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB bc they doesn’t have a proper healthcare, that’s why

@bigsister9354

3 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB Yes. There’s a lot of indigenous tribes around the world, many of them have a mostly plant-based diet, but they also have a short lifespan.

@meortiz23

3 жыл бұрын

best part of the video! 🤣🤣

I MOST DEFINITELY DO NOT HATE KRISTINA, I just could never afford her lifestyle or her diet.

@anna.318

3 жыл бұрын

Whether you can afford her diet or not, people shouldn't be eating like that

@justicefonfara17

3 жыл бұрын

@@anna.318 I agree

@itsdashanda5459

3 жыл бұрын

@@anna.318 so it’s better to eat dead animals ? Girl BYE 😂

@anna.318

3 жыл бұрын

@@itsdashanda5459 No I’m not saying that. I don’t eat meat. I’m just saying that people shouldn’t be eating a diet just based off raw vegetables and fruits.

@itsdashanda5459

3 жыл бұрын

@@anna.318 ma’am she’s been doing it longer than anyone on KZread Right now and she’s thriving !! I think I’d rather listen to someone who knows what they’re talking about !

I saw this and the first thing I thought was maybe you shouldn't be friends with Holocaust deniers.... That's all there is to it babe.

@PoeticPeer

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah...I really don't get how Swayze is cool with people having racist or anti-Semitic dudes as friends? I like Swayze but hey sis someone having racist friends is a huge fuckin red flag 😬😬😬.

@InvincibleAirman

3 жыл бұрын

I think someone can be a bit misguided, especially if they've lived quite a privileged life and don't really "get" on an emotional level what they're talking about when they're pushing some kind of hateful agenda. Like the young men in the beginning of 1900s who were bored with their lives and romaticized soldier's honor and national pride, and then went off to WWI just to realize for the first time how horrible war is with all of it's pain and famine and disease and death, and how there isn't anything honorable in that after all. Or people might be raised to fear and hate a certain group of people from a very young age, and it might be difficult to break a paradigm and people might be really thinking they're on the good guys' side. People aren't just black and white (no pun intended), they're complicated and nuanced psychosocial beings. I know it might seem impossible to stay in touch who just seems to be so disgustingly wrong about something so vital as human rights and equality, but the last thing we need is people that lock themselves away in their small echo chambers and refuse to keep the discussion open, because that's how the harmful extremist views just escalate further.

@ancientfern2693

3 жыл бұрын

@@PoeticPeer .....are you stupid...? Serious question.

@ancientfern2693

3 жыл бұрын

@@PoeticPeer Swayze isn't friends with Fully raw Dumb dumb.

@jupitherdanach7643

3 жыл бұрын

It can also be family though (or friends you have had for so long they are almost like family). A lot of people have family members that have disturbing views and opinions on certain subjects, but will it really have a positive effect to just break off all contact? I don't think so.

“I’d be parading his ass around too”. Spit out my drink

@zs9710

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve been waiting for someone to say he’s foine 👀😍😂

@honeyxbees

3 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB this comment finally proved you are a racist troll; I’ve seen the context of the conversation talking about black people, or a black person specifically and this is the only comment you have wrote: “fried chicken” in. If anyone is reading this please don’t give this bot any attention. It’s definitely trying to get an engagement so they can keep replying. If I can stop others from giving them attention then I hope that will work.

@minakoa7178

3 жыл бұрын

Did you really tho

I thought the whole purpose of instagram was to parade around your boyfriend / girlfriend.

@mmc1086

3 жыл бұрын

Tell that to my ex, was with him 2 years and I didn’t exist on his social media. When I put my foot down for equal effort he ended it. Fuck the world

@KaylaMarie_

3 жыл бұрын

@@mmc1086 he probably wasn't your boyfriend/girlfriend.

@mmc1086

3 жыл бұрын

@@KaylaMarie_ we met each other’s families and were together for years he just didn’t like the social aspect. Of course he’ll find someone who he actually wants to show off.

@mmc1086

3 жыл бұрын

@@KaylaMarie_ also fuck you for such a heartless comment. Well done you look like such a badass sage on KZread. Of course I knew he didn’t love me back and that’s why it ended. You obviously haven’t experienced heartbreak or you wouldn’t write such an unfeeling message. What you wrote is true but how about couching things more kindly next time to people who are obviously hurting.

@greywolf7577

3 жыл бұрын

@@mmc1086 Him ending the relationship is a red flag (though I guess it means you don't have to deal with it anymore). However, some people just don't add many pictures to social media or only add pictures that other people upload. For those people, it isn't surprising that they wouldn't have pictures of their girlfriend since they don't take pictures of anyone, including themselves.

So... in other news. How’s your Animal Crossing Island?

@thedrugthatkilled

3 жыл бұрын

The real question 😜

@maderaverdes

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think she's playing much anymore-think she said that in a previous video.

@valentinaucros851

3 жыл бұрын

That's what i want to know, thanks! 😂

@sydneysovern

3 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB no ones dies in animal crossing.

@abeltesfaye_

3 жыл бұрын

. Y'all are all Karens

Did she legitimately say that being friends with racist people is fine? I beg your pardon, but no, just no, I have cut off severely friends because clearly by them showing racist behaviour we don’t just have different beliefs, but they don’t cate enough about other people to give them enough respect and not be racist

@IfISmileWillYouPee

3 жыл бұрын

Right? And theres a difference between being friends with someone who still has ingrained racial stereotype opinions, and could change their beliefs with some educations, and being friends with someone who is an actual holocast denier and nazi

@breonawarren1507

3 жыл бұрын

Different opinions are for pizza toppings not human rights- that’s what I say. I cannot knowingly be friends with a racist.

@claudiao7743

3 жыл бұрын

She sure did, at 15:50 .

@tatiaa7206

3 жыл бұрын

@@IfISmileWillYouPee But y'all think that about everyone who doesn't agree with you.

@hannahwalmer1124

2 жыл бұрын

@@claudiao7743 It's so fucked up. What the hell, Swayze?

Latinos, we have a ton, A TON of racism. Our culture upholds and aspires to the white euro-north American ideal of life, economy, and race. So yeah mentioning that she's Latina Lebanese does not help her case of not being racist.

@malloryknox6802

3 жыл бұрын

Latino is not even a race

@user-tx5vr2lu6e

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, PoC can be racist to other races and even their own race. just like how gay people can be bigoted to trans people and even to other gay people (e.g. 'no fats no fems), or how a lot of women have internalised misogyny and put other women down for being 'slutty' or whatever. It's sad but common.

@NoemiTirado

3 жыл бұрын

@@malloryknox6802 they didn't say latino was a race, they were talking about culture in latino countries in general.

@malloryknox6802

3 жыл бұрын

@@NoemiTirado I didn't say they said it was a race

@suchi4free

3 жыл бұрын

@@malloryknox6802 you are right! is an identity, so it has to do with origin, socio economic status, cultures, history etc

Talking over is expressing an opinion about something that you’ve never experienced in the name of the group of people that have experienced it. It often tends to be significantly different from the experiences of those people and your message will be accepted more since it tends to be more digestible to the group of people that have never experienced it. It warps the message. It’s not just expressing an opinion. Pretty dismissive of you.

@meerrchh3628

3 жыл бұрын

glad someone explained why that part rubbed me the wrong way

@noname-ke3gm

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t have a drivers license but I still know that you shouldn’t drive into a tree.

@Vannabanana46

3 жыл бұрын

Yes!! Very dismissive and resentful at being told where the line is. Thank you for putting your finger on it, I couldn’t quite articulate what I was feeling.

@AccordingToWillow

3 жыл бұрын

@@noname-ke3gm I’m glad you don’t have a driver’s license.

@noname-ke3gm

3 жыл бұрын

@@AccordingToWillow If you are trying to roast someone try at least to make sense.Good luck next time.

It seems to me the comments didn’t even watch the video and were just ready for her to sound off terrible things about Kristina. Good grief. I didn’t think it was blackface and it was mostly non-black ppl offended and speaking in our behalf which pisses me off when ppl tell black ppl when we should or shouldn’t be offended by things. I am additionally annoyed by vegan KZreadrs and their viewers mob attacking other vegan influencers on KZread. This culture and behavior amongst vegan influencers has nurtured the hatred people now have towards Kristina. Sorry, but Unnatural Vegan is equally guilty of partaking in this. At least Kristina has public ally shared her CMP lab results to show proof her lifestyle is healthy. It shouldn’t be “fun” to be outraged. That’s weird.

@TheOfficialEbonneJ

3 жыл бұрын

I couldn’t have said it better !

@r.pinheiro549

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed sis! 👍🏾

@Beijaxol

3 жыл бұрын

So true! I was baffled that Kristina’s beautiful body painting was judged as racist. I am Indigenous, African and Portuguese on my mother’s side(Brazil) and her body painting reminds me of my ancestral culture. I appreciate Kristina’s work as a vegan. I also love that she represents as a Latinx and Arab entrepreneur woman in a field that is very slanted towards the myth of White men as the leaders and pioneers.

@JJ-yu7pi

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. It definitely wasn't giving black face. - Proud Black Woman

@beachbuddies57

3 жыл бұрын

It seems like a hundred years ago (I was a kid anyway) that I asked my mom why non-black people think black people can't fight their own battles, so it's refreshing to read your statement.

Nah, we are the company we keep and Kristina's choice to have a holocaust denier in her inner circle implies that she is at least passively accepting of his views. Fuck that noise.

@coppermoth6069

3 жыл бұрын

There was this really powerful ted talk where a black man attended kkk rallies and ended up convincing a top klan leader to leave: some believe challenging hatred reinforces it and that the best approach is to ignore it, but others actively attempt to confront toxic people and keep them around for that reason (with various outcomes of success)

@lrtb19

3 жыл бұрын

@@coppermoth6069 okay... but did kristina talk to and convince John rose to ditch his awful beliefs?? I don’t think so soo totally unrelated

@redmaple1982

3 жыл бұрын

There is choosing not to abandon a friend in the hope that they will get better and their is enabling a toxic person in the name of friendship. People can change but sans deep introspection you are also the average of your peers

So proud of you, on your decision, not to speak badly about Christina. She offers so much to so many. This racist thing has got to stop for all of us. Christina is smart and beautiful.

no please... don’t stop talking about Kristina. it’s so entertaining. ^_^

@abigailsbooked

3 жыл бұрын

I agree!!!!

@SatishKumar-uz7bz

3 жыл бұрын

It should be on Netflix. People talking about fully raw kristina

@KaliKali-hv9bt

3 жыл бұрын

agreed!

@KaliKali-hv9bt

3 жыл бұрын

@@SatishKumar-uz7bz uh. ok?

@user-dr9zo2jb3r

3 жыл бұрын

How old are you people?

The problem with the argument of "intention" is that the harm is done regardless of your intention. Her actions caused actual harm. She can apologize all day long, and I absolutely do believe people should be given the opportunity to grow and demonstrate that they have changed. But that doesn't change the fact that harm was done, regardless of intention.

@93pan1c

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly this! I personally believe most of the evil in this world has been done with good intentions in mind. There are not that many people around who are ok with being evil. They always have an explanation that justifies their actions - even if it's only to keep their conscience in peace.

@giannis_tar

3 жыл бұрын

WHAT harm? Do you morons even take 2 mins to google what "blackface" actually means? It's related to MINSTREL characters. CARICATURES for SHOWS. Not using your body as a fucking canvas for painting! It's like saying that a man dressing in feminine clothes for artistic purposes is transphobic. Fucking morons....

@greywolf7577

3 жыл бұрын

Anyone who thinks there was any "harm" done by her using her body as a canvass is not being serious. There was no harm done by that. No one could ever look at that and seriously think "that's definitely supposed to be dressing up as an African American".

@lamujermaslinda

3 жыл бұрын

you must be so perfect. I bet God looks at you each day and says, wow she is so perfect - never committed a sin in her life.

@pamtewes5276

3 жыл бұрын

How did she do harm?

Upon reading the title, my first thought was that she had some kind of horrible medical incident, possibly related to the raw thing -.-

I don't know how to feel about you tellijg poc how to feel bout what we perceive as racism and whether or not we can be angry :/

@Nicholassc7k

3 жыл бұрын

She isn't telling you how to think. If you don't think intention matters, then argue that case. We are all humans and can understand that things like intention matters in day to day life. You don't need to be apart of any group to realize this. I mean are you denying that some things are or aren't objectively racist? Or that I as a white person can't ever factually determine between what is and isn't racist?

@madamemango9500

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nicholassc7k tbh I'm not really quite sure and have been pondering on it for a while. I think that from having experienced lost of racism it makes me more sensitive when it comes to things like this but I still don't know what I should think in cases like these-I never meant anything negative just that I simply didn't know how to feel

@Nicholassc7k

3 жыл бұрын

@@madamemango9500 I understand. I wasn't trying to argue or anything. I agree there are probably times a racist white person isn't in the position to judge what is and isn't racist. Obviously. I'm just saying I don't think she is telling anyone how to think and her point is just based in everyday logic.

@salem1281

3 жыл бұрын

She has a history of saying iffy things like that. Just watch her blm video

@abcw114

3 жыл бұрын

Is that what you heard?

I Love Kristina and credit her with regaining my health - so people can knock her all they want. I think she's a legend and a brave one.

@extropiantranshuman

2 жыл бұрын

she really is being beat up everyday to give us quality content that no other contender would even hold a candle to.

@morscerta18

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah she has so many haters. I only clicked this vid because i can't believe this chick been making vids on Kristina for this fucken long.

@extropiantranshuman

2 жыл бұрын

@@morscerta18 haven't we all. I mean I can see why Kristina's ragged on - she has hate put on her so much that she doesn't have time to even see straight or know right from wrong - compared to having a normal life - because normal life for her is the entire world gone crazy pointed at her. It's a hard life - so a little understanding would help. That said, I don't feel unnatural vegan's really in the wrong for trying to figure out what's going on - calling out both Kristina and the haters. I kind of agree with unnatural vegan that Kristina only says she doesn't do something but doesn't say how or why it's true - only talking down about how others are wrong - but not saying why. It's like the work of a politician or someone who saw something done wrong trying to deny it. But it's understandable how it got to this point - because unnatural vegan pointed out to kristina's haters how they're wrong too. I'm glad unnatural vegan's taking a step back, as it's just all adding to existing problems that're already a mess - good for her to try to make the situation better. I just feel some of the reactions by unnatural vegan are kind of incorrect - but I have been wrong about unnatural vegan's reactions before - so I'm not one to talk here.

@Uprising771

2 жыл бұрын

you are being deluded. you may have lost weight but your health will suffer if you continue on the raw vegan diet.

@linashoes

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. So wonderful and brave to lie on the Internet and play with peoples lives 🤪

I've always appreciated your videos about Kristina and many of them in the beginning helped me understand that this is not a balanced diet I should try. Thanks for keeping things transparent bc this is important work that helps people's lives

Wow, you really need to educate yourself more before discussing issues like racism, antisemitism, etc. because it’s clear you still haven’t learned from your mistakes from previous videos.

@cproteus

3 жыл бұрын

Right?

@hjayne5481

3 жыл бұрын

Still justifying instead of actually seeing the issue.

@findtheeyes

3 жыл бұрын

She really hasn't and honestly, seems like she doesn't want to listen/understand at all. I mean, she basically said all you need to understand racism is to read the dictionary definition and she would rather dismiss any of the genuine critique as people being dogmatic or wanting to be part of a mob. It's disappointing.

@akaMsBL

3 жыл бұрын

@@findtheeyes Exactly. Disappointed but not surprised.

@marzipan2555

3 жыл бұрын

Bc that deals with human lives, and she doesn't value those

Lol. The consequentialist now arguing intent matters.

@Hushashabega

3 жыл бұрын

Why shouldn't a consequentialist argue intent matters? While intent may have no bearing on the morality of an act within a consequentialist framework, the morality of an individual takes into account their possible future actions, and one's intent in past actions indicates what one's future actions may be. Since we can't undo the past, a consequentialist should only be concerned with what will happen, not what has already happened (rehabilitative over retributive justice).

@gillypuente1794

3 жыл бұрын

@@Hushashabega Lol. Dude, I responded to you and she literally deleted my comment. I don't feel like typing it all out again but, yeah. She got triggered af.

You will not because you keep monetizing of off her! KZread really needs to regulate people like you that have no creativity what so ever and jump on someone else's success to make money! Dirty dirty scam!

This whole videos seems like defending and than pointing out something wrong but than defending again and than add in explaining how she’s not racist as if she’s not racist

@MsMyraEmily

3 жыл бұрын

How is she racist?

Kristina build her whole brand/image around this diet. She would have to redefine herself if she admitted she's wrong. (Also I think she really believes what she says/does).

@wheatstonebridge

3 жыл бұрын

Very good point

@samirachami2209

2 жыл бұрын

she is leaving her truth, what is wrong with that?

@olgazarzecka635

2 жыл бұрын

@@samirachami2209 there’s nothing wrong about living your truth, the problem is when it is presented as an ultimate one

@samirachami2209

2 жыл бұрын

@@olgazarzecka635 it is her ultimate truth and she is sharing it with the world. I have never followed someone and thought its the ultimate truth. We can take 10% or 50% , all or nothing at all. People will have their own opinion on her life. I think what bothers me is because someone does not agree about her way of life or how she comes across, this person will go out of her way to destroy Kristina's character and livelyhood. I am not keen on a 100% raw diet but lots of people i know they in it for years and are happy.

@extropiantranshuman

2 жыл бұрын

everyone starts somewhere - obviously she'll have slip ups if she delved in head first into the diet - but we have to give leeway to people growing up to do things correctly.

Ranting about fullyrawkristina is my favorite content from you haha I hope you continue to call her out.

@eh7159

3 жыл бұрын

Same!!!!

@rubinaaimin578

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@Prettymapleleaf

3 жыл бұрын

Why??? She’s awesome. So many hateful bitches on this page.

@RosieDozie

3 жыл бұрын

Ditto! 😉

@cleverchaleigh

3 жыл бұрын

O, she has other content on this channel!!??😏 Seems like she's constantly bitching about this raw foodist chick.

There's a Jewish saying - If 5 people are out having lunch together and 2 of those people are Nazis, how many Nazis are at the table? 5. Tolerating those kinds of beliefs is only normalizing those beliefs. If you aren't ok with anti-semitism, don't hang out with anti-semites. Please do not tell BIPOC and Jews what is or isn't racist/anti-semetic.

@LauraPalmerD

3 жыл бұрын

Come on, I am Jewish and I can totally see how Kristina didn't even know. She is so obsessed about being full raw (and was certainly all consumed by it back then), they likely chatted about raw food and veganism... I have no idea, I don't like Kristina's either, but I can see that this can happen in some situations. "Friend" and "close to" are very loose terms in the US... they probably don't really know each other beyond fruitarianism...

@IfISmileWillYouPee

3 жыл бұрын

@@LauraPalmerD I still think Kristina should have looked at the guys channel once before collabing. His views weren’t even remotely hidden

@alishaofcourse

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. I feel like she was being a bit of an apologist when it came to issues that don't affect her, but when it came to promoting unhealthy eating habits oh boy does she have an opinion since she's been through it. Maybe don't speak on topics you have no personal experience in then if that's the motivation behind your convictions. Super disappointed lately with white women influencers to say the least.

@LauraPalmerD

3 жыл бұрын

@@IfISmileWillYouPee I agree. Unfortunately, Kristina is not exactly the responsible kind... All I am saying is that I can see that she might've not known about this...

@AndreaAnniedrea

3 жыл бұрын

If nobody with a different view/opinion hangs out with the Nazis, the nazis will never change their viewpoint. If we stop talking to each other (perhaps due to the fear of being viewed as being ok with those types of views), we will only polarise more and create more distance between people.

Latine and Lebanese people can still be white tho Kristina...

@kakashi341girl

3 жыл бұрын

What does it have to do with being white lol? Some of the most racist countries are in Asia and I’m pretty sure they’re not white. Unless I’m mistaken somehow?

@DearSparklesTV

3 жыл бұрын

@@kakashi341girl Kristina said she wasn't white because she's latina and lebanese, but she still could be white

@KaliKali-hv9bt

3 жыл бұрын

@@kakashi341girl they were inferring strictly about what Kristina said about herself not being able to be racist.

One of the red flags when dealing with companies: "taking allegations seriously" and "standing with victims". It's always shorthand for "we don't do our due diligence in investigating claims and ignore the presumption of innocence, and any narcissist is invited to abuse our goodwill for their own nefarious purpose, we really don't care if anyone innocent is thrown under the bus or peole are hurt by actions that are beyond measure, because those are not the kind of people we cater too".

@75Cee

10 ай бұрын

So well put!

I think a lot of people don't understand what they mean by intention not mattering in some cases. Just because you don't intend to hurt people doesn't mean that their pain isn't real or valid. Just because you don't want to be racist doesn't mean that you don't do racist things and say or believe racist things. FRK did a racist thing by doing black face even if that wasn't her intention that was the result and she hurt people by doing it. I am sorry, but people who are not from the marginalized group don't understand that trauma. It's similar to PTSD many of the triggers for PTSD may not be upsetting to others, but to those with PTSD they are extremely upsetting. The hardest part about those who are victims of racism, sexism, homophobia, etc... is that they make up a large part of the population collectively. The discrimination and abuse of marginalized communities is imbeded in our society so it will take more work and participation by those with power to move past it and avoid more harm being done. Many misunderstand that when people are pointing out these behaviors in good faith are not saying that you are a bad person they are saying that these behaviors are not good. Please don't let people who are not conveying the message in the nicest way stop you from doing the right thing. Those who lash out have suffered a lot and they are reacting that way because of it. Please ignore those things or if you can sincerely apologize for hurting them and acknowledge their pain and let them know that you intend to do the right thing and that you understand their message.

@maebonem1831

3 жыл бұрын

I 100% agree that intention doesn't matter in evaluating whether an *action* is wrong or harmful, but I think what UnVeg was getting at was that it should matter when we're talking about whether having done it makes someone a bad *person.* If I kick you, you're hurt regardless of whether I meant to. But if we're asking whether I'm an asshole for kicking you, whether I did it because I wanted to hurt you or because I was trying to kick a soccer ball next to your foot and missed -- that becomes relevant. Harm is harm regardless of intention, but an accident doesn't make you an asshole. In the latter case it becomes about how you respond to having caused harm.

@NoemiTirado

3 жыл бұрын

I agree! We all have to try to see people's intentions when they hurt us because it's helpful in forgiving them. But at the same time, you can't ignore the the effect of what you did just because you had different intentions. You have to learn to apologize for the outcome of your actions, not your intentions. Like if you step on someone's toe, it doesn't matter whether you meant to or not, you still hurt them, and should apologize

@maebonem1831

3 жыл бұрын

@@NoemiTirado I totally agree. I literally had this fight with a boyfriend once -- he elbowed me in the face accidentally while helping me put up a shelf and argued that he didn't need to apologize because he didn't mean to, and I knew he didn't mean to, so why should be be sorry? Lol. Needless to say we are no longer together. That DOES make you a jerk.

@trayas2272

3 жыл бұрын

But how can you be unintentionally racist? Surely racism is a belief system so without those beliefs how can you be racist? You can’t accidentally believe white people are superior, that requires more than just an action that can be interpreted in some way or other that you didn’t intend.

@rn2787

3 жыл бұрын

@@trayas2272 that's not how it works. For instance there are people who still believe in racist stereotypes even though they don't hate other races. These types of beliefs will change how they treat people who are not part of their own race and they may say or do things based on those stereotypes that hurt people without intending to hurt anyone.

So how many years now have you been hating on Kristina?

@alejandrakaercher9761

3 жыл бұрын

Seriously.

@amthemostbeautiful9778

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣good question look 🤔

@taraa1564

2 жыл бұрын

She’s the one that started the rumor about her being “anti-semetic” here on KZread. She put up some cutesy commentary KZread video years ago linking John Rose and FRK (even though Kristina had no clue about his beliefs). The cancel culture freaks (who can’t think for themselves) used that video to falsely accuse Kristina. She eggs on the mob lynching through her videos here.

“The blackface thing wasn’t intentional, who cares” was a little white to say but I agree with everything else in this vid Edit: very white to say lol!!

@BonkyuAsh

3 жыл бұрын

Have you seen her video about D'angelo Wallace and that vegan teacher? She obviously has issues with black people.

@IamSydneySpencer

3 жыл бұрын

@@BonkyuAsh no, time to go watch a bunch of vids about it hehe

@BonkyuAsh

3 жыл бұрын

@@IamSydneySpencer Understandable lol.

@jillianjohnson247

3 жыл бұрын

@@IamSydneySpencer You should it’s very problematic... she’s compares vegan phobia to homophobia, racism, etc... it’s apparently the same in impact and magnitude (her words not mine) I couldn’t even finish watching it. I was literally cringing five minutes into and it was enough to make me unsubscribe.

@claudiao7743

3 жыл бұрын

@@jillianjohnson247 yeah, it’s really disturbing that she has a platform saying such racist things.

I think youre misunderstanding the black boyfriend comment. The point of that was to say that being in a relationship with a black person does not excuse you from being a racist. So many people try to use proximity to blackness as an excuse for racism. You can't just say, "I have a black friend!" and turn around and do racist things as if you are exempt

@livingter5079

3 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't a racist person be unable to have a relationship with a black person due to his/her racial bias?

@moonafarms1621

3 жыл бұрын

@@livingter5079 exactly

@Jennj96

3 жыл бұрын

Can a misogynist not be in a relationship with a woman due to their gender bias? Racism/ misogyny are embedded within American culture and actively need to be fought, both on an individual and systemic basis. You'd also be surprised at the level of cognitive dissonance that people can reach.

@Jennj96

3 жыл бұрын

@@livingter5079 it's not like every racist hates people of color with every fiber of their being and goes around shouting slurs at people. There are lots of ways to do it that can involve being in a relationship with an individual of a different race.

Kristina always goes to escapism and deletes her videos because she either doesn’t have the courage to admit she’s wrong, strongly believes she can’t do wrong, or she just doesn’t care. Lmao over it

@HearturMind

3 жыл бұрын

She’s a narcissist. That’s why she can’t apologize. Yes it’s a dangerous diet. Just look at her decline.

@cujo2680

3 жыл бұрын

Nah bro. Vegans can't be wrong. The moral superiority means she floats above everyone. Raw veganism makes her float even higher.

@kamwolf3960

3 жыл бұрын

She is a spoiled rich kid. And now she is living a very privileged life, in Hawaii.

@livefreeallways

3 жыл бұрын

@@HearturMind She looks amazingly healthy. I just saw her a week ago.

@HearturMind

3 жыл бұрын

@@livefreeallways I guess the camera lies then.

I like how balanced this video is. Calling out issues on all sides, but also giving them the benefit of a doubt.

@extropiantranshuman

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think this video's balanced - it's coming from someone who's calling out raw kristina for someone she herself does - promoting that only veganism is the way to go - which is not healthy for everyone.

@JudyCZ

11 ай бұрын

​@@extropiantranshumanSwayze promotes veganism to the extent that it's benefiting a practical. She acknowledged many times that many people can't be vegan because of their medical issues and shouldn't be then.

@sophierosenberg1294

9 ай бұрын

@@extropiantranshuman Agree 100%. I am shocked @20:35 where she says Kristina's diet is dangerous and terrible! The hypocrisy is unreal. She should be ashamed of herself and post an apology video.

@extropiantranshuman

9 ай бұрын

raw kristina's doing alright for her - she seems pretty healthy (except the b12 levels being too high). I haven't seen a vitamin video - I guess I should. It's because that's not being shown as much as recipes that it seems 'unhealthy', but pulling out a chronometer over recipe or what I eat in a day videos is a little tricky to work iwth.@@sophierosenberg1294

@sophierosenberg1294

9 ай бұрын

@@JudyCZ VEGAN is Swayze's choice and RAW VEGAN is Kristina's choice. They should both be able to coexist on this planet together harmoniously because they're both individuals with their own mind and have free will to make their own decisions. Kristina has never made a video talking bad about Swayze because Swayze is vegan. The audacity of her to drag Kristina just because she doesn't agree with her dietary decision. I just left her a long comment sharing my thoughts and I hope she actually reads it and takes it to heart because the negativity and shade she has for Kristina's way of eating is going to backfire right back onto her. It's sad when a person's focus in life is tearing down someone else. I hope she realizes that the energy we put out is what we get back which is why I'm not bashing her but praying for Swayze to find her own unique path in life and coexist with others without judgement.

you don’t get to say what black people do or don’t find racist and if they should or shouldn’t accept an apology

@akaMsBL

3 жыл бұрын

💯

@Victoria-dz1jz

3 жыл бұрын

We all are entitled to our opinions.

@lydiastott9038

3 жыл бұрын

@@Victoria-dz1jz yes, and it is up to black people to decide THEIR opinion on whether something is racist and whether to accept the apology. If I punch you and then apologise to your friend and they accept, it doesn't make it all okay. I'd have to apologise to you and it is up to you to decide whether to forgive me.

@Victoria-dz1jz

3 жыл бұрын

@@lydiastott9038 Yes, you're right, but the current attitude in society seems to be one of using any opportunity to play the role of a victim, and being offended over anything and everything. "Racism" just becomes another convenient category. It becomes petty and ridiculous. In my opinion, it is much better to focus on the positive, and the power we do have, than always whining about real and perceived wrong, because there will ALWAYS be something to find to complain about.

@lydiastott9038

3 жыл бұрын

@@Victoria-dz1jz I agree we should focus on the good. When things are a gray area it’s for poc to decide when it comes to race issues. and change doesn’t happen if you try to forget/ignore the bad.

Wow I’ve never seen someone dodge responsibility and ownership and lack self awareness. Every time Kristina addresses anything, she’s always the victim and always the hurt one as if everyone’s after herv

@yabby2000

3 жыл бұрын

Narcissistic personality disorder

@Paraclef

3 жыл бұрын

""Wow I’ve never seen someone dodge responsibility and ownership and lack self awareness."" Like showing statistics of crimes and denying the results ?

@sstargaze333

3 жыл бұрын

Typical narcissist move.

@extropiantranshuman

2 жыл бұрын

if she posted videos responding to everything and removed what people addressed to her when she didn't know - then it's not responsibility dodging. She is the victim here - so what're you getting at? Talking just to talk? I'm saying out of genuine curiosity - not to pick - just in case it doesn't go through that way.

@youngmafi5609

2 жыл бұрын

@@extropiantranshuman she's Lolo bulleh, another haole who eating all the fruits & veggies and fakin like she isn't miserable af

Don't say it's the last time, lol. We know it's not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It can't possibly be the last time!!!!!!

@maebonem1831

3 жыл бұрын

I wish I could save a comment because I want to link to this when Swayze makes the next FRK video....you're right, there's no way this is the last time, lol.

@SuiGenerisAbbie

3 жыл бұрын

I HOPE IT IS NOT THE LAST DAMN TIME!

@BauerBeauty

3 жыл бұрын

Yes please don’t

@SuiGenerisAbbie

3 жыл бұрын

@@BauerBeauty Yes, I agree with you! Please, do not let this be the last time. Swayze's input is too valuable. We need it. 👍

She likes to promote products from Info Wars too

@allibird

3 жыл бұрын

Really? Like what?

@cookiequeen5430

3 жыл бұрын

Yikes

@animefangrl0902

3 жыл бұрын

@@allibird it was info wars b12

@LorraFae

3 жыл бұрын

She doesn’t. She did once at the recommendation of someone else she used to look up to. That ended. She didn’t know it was from “info wars”

I saw her video "calling out" vegnews before knowing what was going on and it was just confusing and off-putting because she just kept saying how she's lebanese latina and saying she's being bullied... I think the big problem with her is that she's always so focused on the "haters" and thinking she's a victim of bullying, while simultaneously minimizing her own mistakes and ignoring how her actions and words affect others. She's so concerned with being hurt, but doesn't care when things she does hurt others, and when people try to explain to her, she calls them bullies... I think she really is so convinced that she's a beacon of light that she doesn't think she is capable of doing things wrong. Her apologies are more like "sorry I didn't know, what do you want me to do" rather than "sorry, I realize how this is bad, and I've learned from my mistakes". It's just sad honestly, I think she's a good person but she's so wrapped up in her own world that it's near impossible for her to understand where other people are coming from.

@silviabedin1655

3 жыл бұрын

Typical Pisces lol

@IfISmileWillYouPee

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. I wish she would reflect on why people may be criticizing her instead of just immediately saying they are hating and attacking her.

@NoemiTirado

3 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB did you mean to leave that reply on my comment? Or maybe someone else's? Sorry haha I'm just confused, it's kind of a non sequitur

@exploitedfight8081

3 жыл бұрын

@@IfISmileWillYouPee to be fair she was getting insanely hateful messages. So even if she got 100 polite and reasonable ones, her reaction was to those 10 that were attacking her with harsh, abusive language. And i totally understand. I can meet 10 nice ppl during the day and forget about them. But one rude, nasty person will be stuck in my head and totally ruin my day. She says she didn't know about John's views. If i remember correctly that video, she brought him in because she said he saved her life by introducing her to veganism when she was extremely sick. Black face wasn't an actual "black face". A bunch of black ppl commented that they weren't offended. I've read that she apologised for both instances. None of us are perfect, we all make mistakes. I think ppl go overboard with this cancel culture. We should be more careful. So many ppl are depressed nowadays that a bunch of hateful messages can push them over the edge and they might do something terrible if you know what i mean. I just saw statistics that b4 pandemic 1 in 10 ppl were depressed, now it's 1 in 3.

@cakecrumb095

3 жыл бұрын

I sometimes just watch her videos to see what kind of stuff she puts out there now since she’s so out of touch with regular society. It’s crazy how out of touch she is.

*Freelee just entered the chat....*

This is a well rounded response. I’ve appreciated your response videos lately, a good combination of analytical response, a bit of personal input, with a splash of empathy to round it out.

This video is really, really good. Fair and balanced, and like others have said, also empathetic. Good job!!!

What Is it with you and down playing people's racist actions. First it was That Vegan Teacher and now this Kristina.

What did you eat today? Let's talk about that....

But i love when you talk about FullyWrongKristina..

@hannahwalmer1124

3 жыл бұрын

Me too :(

@parisz

3 жыл бұрын

LMAOOO

Eh I think being friends with holocost deniers is a little more than just being "friends with people who have different beliefs than you". And while I dont necessarily think Kristina is racist, I think both her and you should instead reflect on why someone thinks what you said or did could be interpreted as racist instead of immediately getting defensive.

@holisticmaya

3 жыл бұрын

I think he became sort of a "parental" figure to her over the years. Imagine your father or mother tells you like 10 years later that they have these beliefs. Of course you would be extremely shocked and would criticize your parents, and find them extremely out of line. But they are still someone who has had an impact on your life and you still have an appreciation for them. That is the way I see it.

@IfISmileWillYouPee

3 жыл бұрын

@@holisticmaya yeah I can see your point of view. Thats completely valid. I suppose the part that is suspicious to me is that she claimed she didn’t know these views when the guy has posted videos about it. Just seems that if he’s so open about them online, the topic would come up. I think it’s different to be friends with someone who has shitty beliefs if they genuinely keep those beliefs private and to themselves

@zeldaafitz

3 жыл бұрын

Can you point me to where UV gets defensive? I never interpret her tone like that

@Nicotine027

3 жыл бұрын

@@zeldaafitz Her BLM videos, her cheating (is okay) video, her D’Angelo Wallace video (well, the whole TVT series for that matter), her “neoliberalism” video, various strange tweets... I mean, it’s kind of her brand lol

The one thing I loved about your channel is how honest and real you are.

“let them die” at the very end sounded a bit ominous ngl.

@hannahmills6764

3 жыл бұрын

It was super funny! And obviously a joke

"the mere existence" of an accusation requires swift action. Yikes. It's strange that VegNews wasn't aware of her extreme diet claims prior to adding her to the list of candidates-- VegNews should be reporting on dangerous diets under the umbrella of "veganism."

@extropiantranshuman

2 жыл бұрын

Why are they even going off of diets - when veganism isn't a diet? Also isn't veganism, by mindset, a little dangerous to begin with - even if it's safe too? People with allergies that go vegan only to end up in a hospital - because everyone says 'go vegan', not 'consult a doctor to see if it's right for you'. If they're worried about promotions of dangerous diets, they gotta look in the mirror.

Vegnews posted about this ice-cream made from artificial milk, can you talk about that? ❤️

@yasaiaisa8363

3 жыл бұрын

@B Of Our Time B same!! It'll probably be really expensive though

@Olivetree80

3 жыл бұрын

I don't need that, there are amazing plant milks that make equally yummy ice cream as dairy ice cream

@-Oddish-

3 жыл бұрын

What the fuck? The lengths they go to to not make some oat milk ice cream, which tastes way better anyway

@ksaldivar89

3 жыл бұрын

I think they *might* have already tried it . Search KZread Unnatural Vegan Ice Cream .

@Chlunkon

3 жыл бұрын

yes i was going to comment about this!

I'm confused why you said you don't understand why people are still bringing up the black face and haven't gotten over it. It's not your place to tell someone that they should be over or no longer upset by something.

Don’t forget we’re all jealous

She’s done nothing wrong..she painted herself with fruits and vegetables. If your an artist you use a background that makes your colors pop. Good lord ZERO PEOPLE SHOULD BE HURT. This is not blackface. Get a life… secondly we’ve all been befriended by people who turn out to be wolf in sheep’s clothing. Seems like you want attention from her namesake. This video is toxic…100% gaslighting.

kristina sounds just like my boss if you call her out or does something wrong she will throw everything back at you and somehow make you responsible for whatever she did wrong. You can tell I hate her lol 😂😂

@yabby2000

3 жыл бұрын

That’s a characteristic of narcissistic personality disorder. They are never wrong, it’s your fault.

UV... in my opinion you are really out of touch/off base with race issues. I highly recommend going to the black or indigenous voices section of Netflix or Amazon Prime and educating yourself, as you have clearly proved you can educate yourself. Race issues are also not simply a matter of opinion but I’m choosing my words carefully here. You don’t get to disagree that black people should exist equally but currently still face prejudice and discrimination and still be friends, just like you probably don’t want to be friends with someone who disagrees that we should care about animal rights at all. You are an imperfect human who has her own moral compass, but it’s becoming more and more clear it’s an inconsistent one.

There is no way all her leather items were "accidents"🙄 😂. She was promoting leather shoes to sell them. That alone should have disqualified her.

@Erin-ho8qu

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Literally not vegan

@holisticmaya

3 жыл бұрын

What on earth are you talking about? This is UNFOUNDED. I remember she had a pair of butterfly shoes, she later said she received them as a gift and thought her friends knew she wouldn't wear leather, but as soon as she found out, she stopped wearing them. Why always see the bad in people?

@PoeticPeer

3 жыл бұрын

@@holisticmaya I was one of the people who saw the original posts she made. She was advertising the maker of the shoes, tagged them, and was obviously receiving commision for promoting those and other leather shoes (there were red cherry shoes too, not just the butterfly ones fyi). She also was wearing leather bracelets. Not unfounded. Believe FullyLyingKristina all you want, I don't care 😁.

In order to apologize you have to be sorry and know the harm that has been caused by your actions.

I don't understand how you can criticise Kristina for dismissing commenters as trolls when many have genuine concerns. That's exactly what you did in a video recently when you dismissed negative commenters as people who didn't watch the whole thing, are just seeing what they want to see, or just enjoy being outraged, which totally dismisses genuine long term subscribers who have genuine issues with some things you've said, like me. How do you not see that that is the same and you belittled your own audience the way you criticise Kristina for?

@Nicotine027

3 жыл бұрын

Aside from her diet, I think FRK rubs Swayze the wrong way because it’s like holding a mirror to herself.

Why she is not allowed to say that she is Lebanese? Has the world gone crazy????????????????????

I like that in this video you are trying to be respectful and unbiased while still stating your opinions clearly.

Dear woman take care about yourself .not about Kristina😅

To be honest the amount of issues you and others have with her, it seems like she would be constantly apologizing or at least once a week...Maybe she just thinks it’s more time efficient for her to simply just remove what she said or did...I mean I personally would never just constantly apologize to anyone...like a sry here and there but not Every single time you got an issue...

You’re right about one thing. A black simply person existing adjacent to a not black lesson is not participating in a “parade”, no matter how much you want to criticize Kristina. He’s not an object which is exactly the point of so many discrimination convos

"There are plenty of things to be angry about in this world and maybe this isn't one of them" Swayze, you can't tell people what is okay and not okay to be upset over. You say that you don't think her intentions were bad, but I cannot see any adult person in north america (or beyond honestly) seeing that and not going "oh no this is a bad idea". People hide behind "oh I didn't know" or "I didn't think about it oops!" to get away with questionable or blatantly racist shit all the time, it's an excuse to get people to not be mad at them. That being said, I think it is valid for people to still be hurt by a creator doing something like this, even accidentally. It is related to many generations of trauma. Let me put it this way. Imagine someone making these arguments about veganism. "There are plenty of things to be angry about in this world, and maybe other people eating animals isn't one of them". Or someone going on as a vegan influencer and they post a picture of them drinking a regular Frappuccino from Starbucks. People comment and tell her it isn't okay and they are upset that she is promoting this on her large platform and she goes "Oh I didn't know there was milk in this my bad". Like how would you not know? It takes 2 seconds of research or brain activity to realize that it isn't a good idea. Then imagine it comes out that this influencer has this person that is known for supporting animal agriculture on their channel and thus they get a lot of backlash and say "hey, this person you are promoting is causing a lot of harm and is advocating for animal agriculture. You say you are super close with them and they are your huge mentor how can you be okay with this??" and once again they turn to "oh I had no idea even though hundred of strangers on the internet knew and I was extremely close to this person. My bad, I totally don't support that!" The amount of trust that these are actually accidents starts to go down when it keeps happening. If I had a nickel for every time this fictional vegan influencer was accidentally supporting animal agriculture I would have two nickels which isn't a lot but still weird that it happened twice, right? When you are speaking to a substantially large group of people and you have quite a lot of influence, I personally believe that you have a RESPONSIBILITY to do research on people, topics, whatever it is that you are promoting. You don't get to go "oh I didn't know", make it your business to know before posting. "it's fun to be outraged" This sentiment keeps coming up with you. It's incredibly infantilizing. You see people upset about something, decide that since you aren't upset you can see no reason why people are upset, thus they must just be playing around. "It's fun" No it isn't. It isn't fun to have to constantly stand up against people trying to say it's okay to do racist or homophobic or whatever things that in general society today are not okay. It's not fun to have someone see something that hurts you and tells you "this isn't offensive you shouldn't be hurt by this". It's taking a "I know better than you sweaty" approach and it's dishonest. Where are your sources? Where are your sources that Kristina didn't mean to be racist or support racists? Why are you defending someone without any sources on why? Is it just because they are vegan? That's pretty weak Swayze. I'm just tired of you seeing people expressing how upset they are that has done something that hurts a group of people and you say they are probably just kids, they are probably misinformed, they are somehow ignorant or naive, they don't know what they are talking about. If you don't know that information about someone, why are you making that assumption? Just because they are upset that makes them wrong? This is just an Appeal to Authority. This is a major logical fallacy. I just want to make that completely clear. I perceive that you are trying to take this moderate route. You want to assume that people didn't mean any harm in things they do a lot of the time and they shouldn't be demonized for that, (while also claiming that people need to educate themselves on veganism). If I don't mean any harm in consuming chicken breasts every day, does that mean I am absolved of needing to become vegan? What if I say I really didn't know that factory farms were bad and that I'll stop then I move on to eating eggs? What is the actual effect of my actions? The effect is that animals are harmed and I've contributed to an industry that supports that. See it isn't about intent. I don't care what intent Kristina had/has in what she is doing. I care about the effects of what she is doing. I care that, regardless of her intention, she is causing harm. If I run over someone with my car by accident and they die, sure I might not go to jail if it is ruled accidental but a person still lost their life. That morally has to raise some alarm flags with you, right? I seriously can't understand why a channel so focused on the suffering of animals seems incapable of empathizing with humans and human suffering. The most frustrating part is that you realize this. You note how her intentions are good but her diet is harmful. You say your intentions towards her are good but that your messaging has potentially lead to increased harm towards her. You just don't seem willing to say "her intentions may have been good but she did cause real harm and that's not okay". In terms of not being friends with people/loving people with different views than you: This is a difficult subject. My question to you is How many non-vegan friends do you have? Not family, not co-workers or whatever, but close friends. Isn't it difficult to cultivate a relationship with someone who has views that are severely different from yours? I've had blatantly racist friends before and my disgust in their behavior made it really difficult to cultivate a healthy relationship past acquaintances and even then I wasn't jumping at the bit to hang out with them. Not saying that it is wrong to do so, I just can empathize with that mindset. "racist" and "pedophile" as the worst things you can be labeled. Interesting take. So you recognize that pedophile is an awful thing to be called because it harms people (specifically children) and implicates you in that behavior. I've never seen it used without any source of reason to believe it personally. Following this logic, being a racist means you __________. (I'll give you a hint: It's hurt people. Including children!). Like this is so frustrating to listen to. "People throw the word around a lot" well yeah, if a huge group of people including influencers were sexually assaulting children then we would be using the word pedophile a lot too! Or if it became a trend to murder people for YT we would call them murderers. So when people are supporting racist ideas and imagery and perpetuating racism using their platforms, we will call them racist. That's how that works. (Though I do perceive you have a little salt over being called a racist yourself so you strawman the people who call others racists as these extremists who hate white people so you don't have to address your own behaviors and how they have hurt people, but I digress). I'm not going to spare an influencer who has caused harm their feelings. I'm not going to pat them on the back and say "oh I wont call you a racist because you did and support racist things. Don't feel bad about it we can grow together". No. This is a grown ass adult. They can take criticism and figure it out. I'm not going to not call something by the word that describes their actions because it might hurt their feelings. (will con't in reply)

@sunshines_notso_wild_adven5861

3 жыл бұрын

"As a white person I'm not allowed to talk over black people when it has to do with race" Ok. If you were able to point to sources on why you are saying "oh this isn't racist, it's just outrage culture" then people would likely be a lot more okay with you speaking on race. THE PROBLEM is that you give your OPINIONS on race issues WITHOUT SOURCES as though they were FACTS! Meaning, you give no reason as to why you are denouncing people saying that something is racist other than "I don't think this is racist" regardless of the fact that the people who have to deal with this kind of racism every day and for many generations has been a reality for them are telling you that these things are in fact racist. This is not "parroting a particular view" this is 1000 people tell you that it is racist and 1 person says that it isn't and you are choosing to listen to the one person that says it isn't because it aligns with your views. Pretty unscientific. If you can give me a good reason as to why Kristina's behaviors aren't racist other than "I don't think it is" the let me know, otherwise it is an unsubstantiated claim. I guess I am curious why you keep covering topics that are only tangentially related to veganism. Like this channel is starting to feel like a drama channel with a splash of veganism tossed in. The racism and anti-Semitism allegations toward Kristina have nothing to do with veganism. Commenting on her diet and how that is problematic should have been the focus of the video, unless you have some sources on the other topics I don't really understand why you feel the need to go into detail defending her on them and telling people to calm down. If you do have sources for why people should calm down then share them, otherwise it's just your opinion presented as if it is logical fact. I presume this is because talking about drama is great for views and interaction on these videos and thus more money for you, but it would be way more interesting to see a vegan influencer talk about vegan research and the progression of veganism in the world. instead of having them defend other vegans racist behavior. To wrap up: "I feel really bad for Kristina" makes me think of the line "well, well well, if it isn't the consequences of my own actions". Her getting "hate" and her having a "hard time apologizing" and the consequences of her actions. I don't think we should harass this person, but they should receive criticism for their actions. There should be consequences. They should be de-platformed for spreading harmful messaging. People are free to say and act however they want, but that doesn't mean the rest of society has to lay down and passively take it.

@IfISmileWillYouPee

3 жыл бұрын

I couldn’t have worded this better myself!!! I really hope she reads this comment!!! (although I’m skeptical that she will)

Id like it i you made videos about some of these sketchy"vegan world" people. Like "whos who" of the vegan world

@jklasdfljkadfsjkl

3 жыл бұрын

I can’t imagine uv doing that, but you might like this pretty satisfying (if a bit goofy) channel called Anna’s Analysis. She has a few long, very fun and thorough videos about online vegans, influencers of all stripes, weird pyramid schemes. Highly recommend if you long for a slightly more gossipy version of uv.

Jesus would never cancel anyone.

Thank you. Leave the girl alone.

Is it me or did Kristina nearly say expose and then change it to falsely accuse? 🧐

@JuliaTheJedi

3 жыл бұрын

Heard it too. But could've also been the beginning of "accuse" and changing it to "falsely accuse".

@lauramacini6811

3 жыл бұрын

@@JuliaTheJedi Maybe but it definitely sounded more like exp than acc to me.

i find it weird that you would remove your video about John Rose just because other people are posting false information about their relationship? if you believe what is in your video is true, wouldn't you want that to be out there?

FRK is a saleslady. She sells products and supplements that's her business.

Have you nothing else to do? Whenever you have a chance, you go for her. It's obvious you are jealous .

@lostsoul1342

2 жыл бұрын

Completely obvious. Jealous.

All Kristina does is make herself look like the victim. She thinks, as long as she just calls everyone beautiful and prays for them, that absolves her of any mistakes and consequences. She’s constantly making herself look like the victim with her fake positivity, talking about how everyone throws stones at her but all she does is smile and pray for them.

@KayKay-or4lr

3 жыл бұрын

I’m curious, what gives you the right to judge someone this way? What goes through your mind to speak on another person when YOU are not perfect yourself.

@misscypher9857

3 жыл бұрын

@@KayKay-or4lr ?? Never said I was perfect. But Kristina does deflect blame. She will never admit to her mistakes and apologize; she’d rather delete videos and make herself look like the victim.

@itsinthewayyoumove4127

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, you sound so damn abusive ! If you actually think Kristina is a white supremacist you need help. No one owes you, or veg news an apology and no one answers to you! Or the mob! Or your imaginative oppression! Get over it !

@misscypher9857

3 жыл бұрын

@@itsinthewayyoumove4127 no one is calling Kristina a white supremacist wtf 😂 And pretty bold of you to call me abusive just because I made a comment. Are you alright?

@itsinthewayyoumove4127

3 жыл бұрын

@@misscypher9857 umm yes actually that’s exactly what happened! Several people were calling her a white supremacists and a neo nazi! And you’re mocking her for standing up for herself ! She doesn’t need to apologize for something she didn’t do!

Who cares if she’s raw and asks you to eat 1 raw meal a day. I think you are actually askew. It’s working for her. She’s not saying it’s the only way. She’s just sharing what she loves and she’s thriving soooooooo

@brittanycalhoun8568

3 жыл бұрын

Shes thriving? She looks way older then she actually is and does not look very healthy

@Prokomeni

3 жыл бұрын

@@brittanycalhoun8568 what’s so bad about looking older than you are? Not even in an “that’s ageist” kind of way. People living in different climates and from different cultures age differently than others are the ones who look youngest the healthiest? I get if you don’t think she’s healthy but that’s not a reason

@ashleysharingintuition3227

3 жыл бұрын

@@brittanycalhoun8568 are you kidding me??? She looks absolutely amazing. Looks better than any of my friends or clients that age and I’m in the beauty industry.

@ashleysharingintuition3227

3 жыл бұрын

@@brittanycalhoun8568 on top of that what does her age supposed to look like? Are you that narrow to judge how someone should look. I get if she was pale with black eyes and bones sticking out and sluggish but she’s not. She’s agile, vibrant and has incredible vitality. She doesn’t cake the makeup but let’s be honest she’s in her late 30’s headed towards 40.

I used to follow her pretty regularly but she just seems so NON-self aware, self aggrandizing and always a very angry victim whenever the slightest criticism or pushback is giving. It gets old.

Let's talk about fast food, sugar, fat, too much meat, over - eating, obesity, disease, etc .........At least Kristina is trying to help people......

“I knew him for ten years, how was I supposed to know?” uh…

So I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt after your D’Angelo video, but I see that your behaviour in this is the same. You have no place to say that something isn’t racist to POC just because you don’t think it is. It has nothing to do with you! You can’t possibly think that telling black people to “get over it” when someone does blackface is okay. Everyone in our western world knows better than to do that. So her intent wasn’t harmful then she doesn’t have to apologize? Absolutely not. Just because I didn’t mean to hit you doesn’t mean it didn’t still hurt. And to mock that people have already told you this as the end of the video? That is wildly immature. You know why the word “racist” gets thrown around so much now? Because a lot of us are sometimes. We’ve grown up in a society with systemic racism, and there’s no shame in admitting that and while striving to improve. How is racist one of the worst things for someone to be called? Because we don’t want to admit it? Because we know we hurt someone? Can you imagine how much worse it feels to be a victim of racism? You don’t have to be a perfect person, you just have to want to do better instead of mocking those who suggest that you did something wrong. I’m not vegan, but I always watched your videos because I thought you were a well educated person who was willing to listen to other people’s opinions and correct behaviours if it was brought to your attention that you were doing something upsetting. I guess that’s not true and it’s really disappointing.

Thank you for making this video! Im not a fan of Kristina but I truly felt she was treated unfairly by veg news.

I don't quite get it - why is it wrong to delete video that others pointed out as being potentially harmful or unethical? I'd say it is the best thing you can do to make sure noone else will see it and gets affected by it in a wrong way?

@Lauraalinee

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think the issue is deleting the video itself, the issue is deleting the video without any explanation as to why it was deleted. the problem and/or concerns are never addressed which is why it can be considered harmful.

Ok that "let them die" at the end was a bit weird

I understand your thoughtprocess in saying that the intentions matter in regards to the blackface issue. But from listening to the voices of the poc community the last months, I understand that it is up to the one who got hurt by an action to say if it‘s forgiven or not.

I hope this is the last video you mentioned Kristina. You should make another way of living because talking down people is damaging your time and energy. You look sad especially looking around like your not interested in this topic, just to make a couple of temporary dollars. Stop spreading negativity and make videos that are good for your well being.

This video was so well done and refocused back to the point, that the specific diet she promotes and her platform is the problem. Thank you for discussing this!

I gotta say I think it’s kind of speaking out of turn to tell people to “move on” and that forgiveness is for them when it comes to an issue like blackface. We can’t relate and we don’t know what it’s like. Moving on and letting it go is not what forced blackface out of the public favor, and racism is often replicated without the informed consent of the perpetrator due to upbringing and culture; naïveté does not mitigate impact. I think as white people the only people we can begin to tell how to feel about something like blackface is other white people, because that’s the only group that is impacted by it in a way we can personally understand and relate to.

@salem1281

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. She has a history of saying iffy things about racism. Her BLM video really rubbed me the wrong way as well.

@claudiao7743

3 жыл бұрын

Too complex of a concept for her to understand that she shouldn’t speak on a racial minorities experience with racism.

@giannis_tar

3 жыл бұрын

Except it wasn't blackface, so actually do move the fuck on

@AccordingToWillow

3 жыл бұрын

@@giannis_tar oh thank god you showed up, a white man’s opinion is exactly what this discourse was missing

@salem1281

3 жыл бұрын

@@giannis_tar why don't you just move the fuck along? Unless you're educated on what you're talking about (which it's clear you aren't) then please shut your mouth. No one cares about an uneducated opinion made solely to seem edgy.

Yeah no about the being friends with racist people. Racism isn't a logical thing and being educated doesn't mean you can't be racist. To assume you as a single person can manage to reason with a racist and help change them is foolish. Racism shouldn't be boild down to "different view points".

@KsandrPann

3 жыл бұрын

Why can't you reason with them? Plenty of racist people have changed their views. They aren't some different breed of human who can never be reasoned with.

@Nicotine027

3 жыл бұрын

@@KsandrPann A lot of us don’t have the energy to reason people into realizing that we’re also people.

@KsandrPann

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nicotine027 it has nothing to do with if you don't have the energy, its whether trying to change a person's racist beliefs is foolish. You not having the energy doesn't negate the possibility of change.

@Nicotine027

3 жыл бұрын

@@KsandrPann Real change happens within one’s self.

@IfISmileWillYouPee

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I also think it depends on the degree of racism too. If someone is unaware that they do subtly racist things, or still believes in some stereotypes, then yeah, educate them and they might actually change. Since their racism was due to ignorance not hate. However, there’s no reasoning with someone who blatantly holds hateful racist views and is even proud of their racism

Intent MATTERS! thank you! Even Swayze comprehends this. Thing is, I didn't hear Kristina say that once. She wants to hang between bowing down to the incoherent mob and acknowledging how toxic this mob is. She needs to just be honest, period.

@antoshfff

3 жыл бұрын

what do you mean “even Swayze”? lol

@HotforHealth

3 жыл бұрын

@@antoshfff 😆 she has some inconsistent beliefs, but usually is sensible about this sort of thing.

@erinsymone1645

3 жыл бұрын

Intent matters but it's NEVER the end of the story the way people want it to be, conveniently when they mess up. The road to hell is paved with "good intentions."

@HotforHealth

3 жыл бұрын

@@erinsymone1645 absolutely. Doesn't mean it's a free pass, but intent should at the least be considered and from what I've seen is completely ignored by the SJW movement.

@worshipcatalyst1

3 жыл бұрын

Intent can matter, but it NEVER outweighs impact.

Swayze, maybe you shouldnt be the one saying someone cant apologize or take critisism, considering how youve reacted to people disagreeing with how you defend that vegan teacher, cheating, and black lives matter

@MsZigmaster

3 жыл бұрын

But she did take the criticism and had a response video for all of those topics.

@IfISmileWillYouPee

3 жыл бұрын

@@MsZigmaster her response videos seemed pretty defensive and mostly just her explaining why she’s right and people disagreeing “didn’t understand” or “didn’t watch the whole video”

I understand that apologizing is a polite thing to do and sends an appropriate message, but to be honest, I value removing the harmful content higher than an apology for it being up!

@maebonem1831

3 жыл бұрын

True but better would be to remove the video and acknowledge why you did it. Just removing the video can easily be interpreted as meaning the person took it down to evade criticism or consequences, not that they understand and agree that it was wrong (in both it's meanings, i.e. both incorrect and harmful).

@InvincibleAirman

3 жыл бұрын

@@maebonem1831 Good point.

I really enjoy your videos, and I normally find myself agreeing with a lot of your takes, but I disagree with you that "racist is the worst thing you can call someone". It's definitely not. Calling someone out for doing or saying something racist (or defending acts of racism committed by others) is asking for accountability. It's a call to educate oneself on how or why something is problematic and racist. There's an awful lot more to it than the "I hate xxxx people" sentiment, and it often has a lot to do with underlying biases and microaggressions. I agree with a lot of other commenters that intention doesn't always matter when harm has been done. You can mean something else, but that doesn't negate the hurt caused directly or indirectly. I feel that it's important to say that I am white, and I choose to educate myself on topics of conflict like this so that I can hold myself accountable and better the world we live in by changing myself for the better. This world doesn't need any more denial, it needs accountability. I challenge you and everyone who reads this to choose accountability too and educate yourself on topics you or someone you've seen have been called out for, or that you've spoken up about or disagreed with. I challenge you to dig deeper and really listen with open ears and an open mind rather than dismissing things as "not racist". Instead, question how that might actually be problematic or racist. I want to see you grow in this regard so that the world is a better place and so that your criticism and evaluations hold more weight.

@greywolf7577

3 жыл бұрын

I think it is also important that if someone makes a false claim of racism (or any other negative claim about a person) then they should be called out for it too. If we "cry wolf" too often on racial issues, then no one is going to believe us when real racial issues come up.

@balance7350

2 жыл бұрын

I think she just saying it's a very serious selection to make without investigating

I like your response videos. You don't side with anyone and I like that 😃

I've definitely seen john rose's videos. They seem anti-semitic, and are and aren't based on the context. Part of it is a lie, but other parts are to show how to spot lies out of anyone too and to protect oneself from them to serve life better. Regardless - it was him that put her on this journey - so giving that person credit - no matter what he did (that she might not have known - as the videos are hard to find) - is what that person deserved as well as the audience what happened - for historical context. It seems people are at it again - taking a situation out of context to blame a person. It makes it really hard to do anything in this world, as everything on camera can be misconstrued while people doing real crimes off camera aren't noticed.

Do you not have anything better to do with your time?

Have not watched Any of these People for years. Today i searched vegan gains and was recommended this video. Its just the same old People still takling about Each other. Noone outside This youtube bubble knows Who Any of these People are.

Basically, shes complicit to it all because as you say, "maybe she just doesn't care."

0:55 - Did she really almost say “exposing” before she corrected to “accusing”? 😂

@IMakeEdits790

Жыл бұрын

I Think So😅

how about talking about the backlash you got on your last... idk.. 8 videos? selfreflection might help to grow as a person.