Chess in 2019: Pre-arranged draws are a big problem. Chess in 2020 and 2021: Over-the-board tournaments during a pandemic are a big problem. Chess in 2022: Butt plugs are a big problem. I wonder what 2023 will bring?

@blaqshiep4920

Жыл бұрын

AI has taken over the world

@iscbts70

Жыл бұрын

AR contact lenses

@gabrielepirovano3529

Жыл бұрын

2024: r/anarchychess rules now are in

@sekainiheiwa3650

Жыл бұрын

fixing match is the best

@watchoutbehindyoubro7080

Жыл бұрын

furries

As a communications engineer, this device that was shown in the video could probably be shrunk atleast 10x. It has a unnecessarily huge battery as well as a lot of components that wouldn't be needed in a professional design. Since chess is an 8x8 matrix, you can develop an effective code to communicate in a shorter amount of vibrations than morse code (3 bits for column and 3 bits for row, the number would be received as binary that you convert to decimal in your head for example), and perform all the stockfish processing somewhere else. All you really need on your body is a receiver, a module that can vibrate, a tiny battery and a small microprocessor....

@Psydw1nder

Жыл бұрын

@@darrylkassle361 the wands are not nearly as sensitive as airport metal detectors.

@tor9050

Жыл бұрын

One simple solution to the problem you’re presenting with processing being done outside: Just put a delay on the livestream for about 10 minutes or maybe even longer. That way, anyone watching from the outside would be giving moves with a huge delay so that is no longer feasible to cheat that way.

@piloco4232

Жыл бұрын

@@tor9050 what about classical games xd

@JordanMetroidManiac

Жыл бұрын

@@tor9050 Ten minutes is too short for classical games. All it takes is one or two engine moves and the whole position becomes winning for the cheater. It might need to be an hour, or you might as well not “livestream” it at all.

@hansdietrich1496

Жыл бұрын

You still need to get the input data into the device. That is, no live streams and visitors available. So you need to be able to morse anything into the device.

Hikaru saying it looks too big is the most wholesome and innocent part of the video. You haven’t seen the things I’ve seen.

@jwlsiee

Жыл бұрын

that looks like a... comfortable size

@chinrichalds5616

Жыл бұрын

I seen a guy on booking at my county jail bring in a Nextel phone along with the charger .

@MeskDaKrull

Жыл бұрын

if there's a will there's a way

@xsoul730

Жыл бұрын

He is not gay 🤣so probably never felt such unlike you 🤭

@Adam-uz3hj

Жыл бұрын

@@xsoul730 Grow up, time to drop homophobia.

Hikaru: "It looks too big" Hans: "Tech speaks for itself"

@Gunnl

Жыл бұрын

this deserves more upvotes ahahah

@YoKnow

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@yesyouareright9800

Жыл бұрын

@@Gunnl upvotes?

@Gunnl

Жыл бұрын

@@yesyouareright9800 its the thumbs up button on youtube...

It's so frustrating to see him deny that things can go in a butt

@hirotakasugi4891

Жыл бұрын

Human butthole can stretch up to 8inch in circumference... so yeah

@milz7129

Жыл бұрын

@@JustSomeGuyWithAMug presuming the sanity of a cheater is insane

@paradox5556

Жыл бұрын

@@JustSomeGuyWithAMug why? Its very easy to put stuff up your butt

@doroza2lol

Жыл бұрын

@@JustSomeGuyWithAMug "No cheater with a sane mind would do that kind of shit XD" People would do more just to win and especially when money is involved.

@blacksnow7106

Жыл бұрын

it doesn't have to go in a butt, that thing could fit in... say... the heel of a shoe and it would work just fine

A whole new meaning to playing chess using your gut feeling.

@elitegaming4262

Ай бұрын

more like butt feeling

Hikaru: But it's going to be too big Hans: Hold my beer

Even if Hans doesn't like chess,he feels pleasure while plays it.

Hikaru: that looks too big. Everyone: that's what she said!

@scarcesense6449

Жыл бұрын

or: that's NOT what she said

Hikaru couldn't understand the point of the waterproofing, and thought it was a joke ... I admire him even more now!

@clawsoon

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. You're not worried about waterproofing if it's in your shoe, unless there are puddles in the playing hall.

@JohnVC

Жыл бұрын

I think the silicone was also to prevent detection from security wands. What's the point of stuffing one in your shoe and someone waves the wand over you and it starts beeping?

@Kriss_941

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnVC Main point here was that he made it to be a buttplug because the whole high tech anal beads theory

@curt50p89

Жыл бұрын

He doesn't understand people used to smuggle drugs on planes by digesting them, it's completely possibly to just swallow the device and have your stomach buzzing moves

@JohnBoyGamer1

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnVC Would the internals be detected by the wands?

Hikaru is too innocent if he thinks that device is too big to fit

@nicolbolas8758

Жыл бұрын

that thing could be several times smaller

@MrDante224

11 ай бұрын

@@nicolbolas8758 or bigger...

cavity search, x-ray search, at a full path down. this is going to be the future of over the board chess.

@saimbhat6243

Жыл бұрын

X-rays cause cancer on longer exposures. I don't think you can scan before every game.

@sCiphre

Жыл бұрын

And bunny slippers for everyone

Hans regrets ever calling Hikaru out. Hikaru will not stop 😂

@duyvan247

Жыл бұрын

As long as there is still that orange wall, Hikaru will not stop lol

@112233JORDAN

Жыл бұрын

lol we heard this dude "Even if I'm wrong, I'm still right."

@secondtononemadman7260

Жыл бұрын

Yeah lmao

@secondtononemadman7260

Жыл бұрын

@@112233JORDAN lmao

@wolt911

Жыл бұрын

@@robdubent play me rn and lose

Hikaru: that looks too big. Hans: you don't know what pleasure means.

@farazsiddiqui1312

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@kawngteasingson5097

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@jakew4829

Жыл бұрын

Hans after putting it in: damn this speaks for itself.

@Stat_Guy

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. I laughed a lot

@commentorinchief788

Жыл бұрын

@@jakew4829 😂

"i'm not saying he cheated but he was wearing a watch when the rules said you are not allowed to wear a watch"

Hikaru is too pure, he is a guy who loyal to vanilla tag.

@Emily-pd2hi

Жыл бұрын

I don’t know why there are so many weaboo related comments on Hikaru’s videos, but I enjoy the idea that your comment exists.

I don't think Hikaru realizes how big the human natural pocket is.

@jaconova

Жыл бұрын

Confirmed incel GM, lol

@anonypersona3189

Жыл бұрын

Maybe Hikaru has never ever taken huge dumps before?

@oneword7143

Жыл бұрын

Don't let them pick your pocket ;)

@idkfk1305

Жыл бұрын

@@jaconova nah it's just sus

@trevspeaks3

Жыл бұрын

Men don't have a natural pocket

the only way to end this once and for all is to do a match between Hikaru and Hans in the white house

@arightscepter

Жыл бұрын

It has to be really quiet so you can hear the buzz

@mathieucozien5736

Жыл бұрын

Naked match in the white house.

Addressing some misunderstandings: - It's dubious how well a flat device in your shoe that isn't activated till after passing security could be detected or distinguished from metal spines commonly found in formal shoes especially with just a wand - Component improvement, circuit optimization, casing and shape fitting, feature reduction, etc could easily reduce the size by a few factors from what looks like a film container - Input can be made by pressing a single button in the device via squeezing, tapping, etc or someone watching the livestream could make inputs Remember you don't need to communicate every whole move to a strong player to significantly change results. These aren't casuals who don't understand chess. They can play pretty well without an engine. It's not about being perfect and guaranteeing victory every game, losses can become draws and draws can become wins with small amounts of help: - Just saying what type of piece contains the optimal move can reduce a ton of mental calculation - If there's delay in the livestream, as long as critical moves are sent within time control you can flip results - Even without critical moves, you can anticipate in preparation when complexity explodes. A single optimal move at those points can hugely tilt things in your favor downstream. - Preparation can be significantly augmented by storing anticipated lines without a live engine

@aikidodude05

Жыл бұрын

you could actually easly signal to by cutting out the piece moved and using 2 devices. since this can be shrunk my first idea would to fit to into the two of each shoe left is abc right is 123. all you would need to tell the player is the spot they need to put a piece at that level of play it would be easy to figure out what piece needs to be put there.

@Emily-pd2hi

Жыл бұрын

This is a P.S.A. The most common metal component that is the largest metal component that I can think of that is commonly present in a shoe is called a shank, and not called a spine. I can’t remember something that is called a spine being commonly cobbled into shoes that is made out of metal.

@soulsbourne

Жыл бұрын

Make the room a faraday cage and we solve the issue...

@Ayedyn

8 ай бұрын

You could make all the players change into official FIDE tournament uniforms and host the tournament in a country like Saudi Arabia where the government has free reign to run high powered jammers just for a tournament.

they should have an OTB tournament with a financial reward and then ask the players to cheat. The players who got away with it can then expose the methods that they used, which can then be studied and used to strengthen anti-cheating measures

@alonsoACR

Жыл бұрын

We do that in the tech world. Big companies give huge rewards if you manage to hack their systems and tell them how you did it. If it was clever enough you may even be offered a job.

@5tony

Жыл бұрын

If they’re getting away with it why would they not still get away with it? Or just cheat more obviously? Idea seems cool but effective execution would be difficult. Most top players would probably not feel like attending, as they probably wouldn’t enjoy the game at all.

@tolypolonty5766

Жыл бұрын

like white hat hackers

@Deflyingfitness

Жыл бұрын

honestly the problem is just too easy for a process like this. It's 2023... cheating can be perfect and undetectable.

Hikaru "I know you guys are gonna be all weird about it" The thing was literally meant to be a butt plug. He called it the Hans Device. He said it's the LiChess PLUG. Holy cow it's blatant

@DaevorTheDevoted

Жыл бұрын

I don't get the LiChess plug reference..?

@codycampbell3562

Жыл бұрын

@@DaevorTheDevoted LiChess is booty compared to other sites lol

@DaevorTheDevoted

Жыл бұрын

@@codycampbell3562 omw! Lol! I didn't know that. I only really use Mr Rensch's website. Anyway, thanks, now I understand the reference :-)

@gustavopinedaxd

Жыл бұрын

@@codycampbell3562 booty?

It's definitely possible to have it much smaller. Hikaru seems to be doubting the viability of this device. It's actually very easy. He doesn't even have to keep the engine in the device. The engine could reside in the remote device. This way size will greatly reduce.

@adamlennon750

Жыл бұрын

My mum said it's very small and has no idea why Hikaru would think otherwise.

@jaconova

Жыл бұрын

Nanotechnology. We the need the world to start getting serious about studying frontier technologies (robotics, intradermic gadgets, drug enhancements, cloning, deepfakes, etc), as they all can and probably will be weaponized, or as in this case, used to cheat.

@PHeMoX

Жыл бұрын

Thing is, similar devices already exist, in a much much smaller form factor. Like in-ear pieces.

@kokuokirai1103

Жыл бұрын

Yea I was surprised my favorite GM Hikaru was skeptical if it would work or not. I thought he would know everything about everything lol

@fateaglio

Жыл бұрын

i dont get how the device works, how does it know what position they are in? do you have to input each move or does it somehow read the board?

If all you need it to do is receive simple codes and vibrate (basically a pager) you could fit something like this in the space of a couple quarters with very little effort. It can even be totally passive (receive only) and not show up on any rf wands.

Hikaru: It's looks too big. Hans: No, it fits just fine.

@Towhomitmayconcern9293

Жыл бұрын

I find it a bit too small personally.

The dude made a working mock-up with parts he probably had lying around. Now that he knows his mock-up works, it’s just a matter of replacing large and cheap components with their smaller and more expensive versions (which really aren’t expensive), and boom, a more easily “ingestible” device. But to be fair, the mock-up itself wasn’t particularly out of the realm of usability… so long as someone was “determined” enough.

@FreedomFighter2112

Жыл бұрын

How does the device know where you moved?

@epmcgee

Жыл бұрын

@@FreedomFighter2112 third party input from a phone. They update the state of the engine, engine calculates and outputs the desired move.

@am2p.

Жыл бұрын

@@FreedomFighter2112 Following the example of the guy in the video, just have a buddy input the moves into the engine using the phone. They can just be watching the game live on their phone or on some tv, and once a move is made, they just need to input the move into the app on the phone, and so long as the phone is within range of the receiver on the device, it’ll start functioning with info on the best next move

@prawtism

Жыл бұрын

You can make a 10x smaller one and keep it in your cheek or smth

@the_sad_wallet1553

Жыл бұрын

@@prawtism but where’s the fun in that? part of the allure of cheating is the *vibrating* excitement…

Someone said it perfectly in the comments, the main engine can be separated then just make a tiny tiny devices that only vibrates the moves. Could imagine how small of a device you could make that only vibrates moves

@lucasaglietti1822

Жыл бұрын

But how does it get the input of your opponents moves?

@nyny

Жыл бұрын

@@m0n4rch911 a sim card reader, esp8266, flat battery, tiny motor (for vibration).. thinner than a cell phone and could easily fit in the sole of a shoe

@ConClasher3

Жыл бұрын

Fr like even if you think about an IPhones main chip and how insanely small that is and what it can do making something like this is really simple for those who have the money and skills to do so

@nyny

Жыл бұрын

@@251rmartin You can get LTE cell device the size of a hot wheel car. The technologies are ESP8266 and also LoRa is another radio technology with great distance. The video did not do a good job of really covering it, he was just making a meme plug joke.

@golfaddict75

Жыл бұрын

So someone texting after every move in audience to an AI that sends him signals to a device that passes a metal wand? Seems like a stretch to me

There's one crucial part missing here...how do you enter the moves back to this computer, when your opponent makes a move?

@lo0ksik

Жыл бұрын

squeeze realy hard

@coleclark6866

Жыл бұрын

spectator

@pokemonmasta4831

Жыл бұрын

@@coleclark6866 Not when there are no spectators allowed or 15m time dellay

@pokemonmasta4831

Жыл бұрын

@@jaideepshekhar4621 and if no spectators allowed?

@alonsoACR

Жыл бұрын

@@pokemonmasta4831 events with delays and no spectators are really rare

I can picture this being engineered into a shoe using the push of the big toe to input moves with a vibration on the other toes to output moves.

@fahed2544

Жыл бұрын

You’re the only person that has acknowledged the fact that you’d need to input your opponent’s moves

Hikaru still struggling to see where this object would fit. Proving that his has led a sheltered life.

@tommydashed4205

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I don't get it. That thing is a fraction of the size of one of my average logs of turd.

@jackiemoon1556

Жыл бұрын

Not everyone sticks stuff up their ass, and not everyone talks openly about their bowel movements, the fact that u guys go to those places so easily just shows how far into the abyss society has already gone.

@Chroniknight

Жыл бұрын

Wonder if Hikaru's just a master actor leading us all on to think he's so innocent and has no idea where it would fit..

@ItIsYouAreNotYour

Жыл бұрын

Because this is beyond far fetched and stupid. And good luck getting by any basic electronic detector wand.

@brettess52

Жыл бұрын

Can be made smaller to fit in smaller places of course. The give away though is discomfort causes the offender to have to move around a lot. 🤔

If Hikaru says that device is too big, than this confirms he say in his room studying chess his entire life without going outside to witness the real world.

@just__mike

Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha 😂😃

@timoaksel9320

Жыл бұрын

He is a virgin.

@jaconova

Жыл бұрын

Or... just confirms his japanese heritage (lol).

@virtualpilgrim8645

Жыл бұрын

He doesn't know what women are capable of?

@coldtruth9431

Жыл бұрын

@@virtualpilgrim8645exactly, there’s none in his room studying chess

Legends say that Hikaru is still really, really, really worried about the future of chess.

You wouldn't even need the device to have a receiver or obtain information from an outsider. Since Stockfish is self-contained on the module, you could add an additional input module in the form of squeezes. Inserting the device a certain somewhere, you could designate squeezing signals to start the game, identify a particular piece, and input where that piece moved.

I love how the anal buzzer thing was so outrageous in the beginning of this drama. Now its not so crazy.

@tokeivo

Жыл бұрын

The outrages thing was the "anal-" part. That was the joke part. If the question was: "How tiny can you make a computer that only runs 1 program?" The answer is: VERY VERY tiny. Like, a smart watch is pretty much overqualified to be a chess computer for this purpose. It has way too much battery, and way to many capabilities.

@goku445

Жыл бұрын

@@tokeivo thing is it doesn't need to be a chess computer. The chess engine can and should be on a remote device.

@tokeivo

Жыл бұрын

@@goku445 That depends on your goal - is it to make the tiniest, almost-non-metal device that can tell you what to move? Sure, hide the computer somewhere else, transmit moves. Is your goal to make a self-contained device that emits no signals to detect? Use a computer.

@goku445

Жыл бұрын

@@tokeivo At the moment they don't care about signals. It's pretty tough to jam the full spectrum I believe.

You can’t do anything that would be considered radio jamming, but you can have the players play inside the equivalent of a Faraday cage that would passively block electronic signals .

@epmcgee

Жыл бұрын

Let's make chess medieval again!

@GeekGames73

Жыл бұрын

would a Faraday cage block all signals traveling on the inside, or just prevent signals from passing into it from the outside?

@stellabiderman4056

Жыл бұрын

It prevents signals from crossing through the outside: it does not do anything to signals between two devices inside.

@ninjanoodle2674

Жыл бұрын

@@GeekGames73 You could design it such that no electronic signals would pass through the "cage" in or out (it wouldn't necessarily need to be an actual cage, although the thought of playing a "Cage Match" in chess has a certain morbid appeal in a professional wrestling sot of way). This is similar to what they would do to electronically isolate an MRI room.

@ninjanoodle2674

Жыл бұрын

@@stellabiderman4056 If the only people inside the cage were the players and the arbiter then it would do its job well enough.

Hans clearly went after the wrong guy 😂😂😂😂😂😂

The hard part is, as it has been for a while, transmitting the state of the board to the chess engine device, which can be miniaturized and hidden, say, somewhere along the alimentary canal. The computation can be done locally, and conveying the "best" (accounting for cheating detection) move is fairly easy to do secretly.

@epmcgee

Жыл бұрын

Either the device has the same type of input as it does output and squeezing a certain pattern into it would relay the info. Or more simply, someone is watching and updating the engine on their phone.

Hikaru was really scared if it was half in size, id be scared if it was double the size lol

@al1iii

Жыл бұрын

Valid point

@whatever_it_takes6691

Жыл бұрын

Double the pleasure double the fun

@mubaraksenju7521

Жыл бұрын

They imagine putting it in their butt or smth? Lmaoo

There was a website that claimed to have a device small enough to fit on your belt, they claimed it was elo 3300 and that they have sold it to at least one professional, the site went down shortly after the chess drama started and people started linking to it.

@user-bj7um9uj6r

Жыл бұрын

Shhhh dont tell the world, this is also use in University student exam!!

@jvillzy

Жыл бұрын

Source: Trust me bro

@jameswebb3410

Жыл бұрын

I've seen what you're talking about and you could see from a mile away it was fake

Hikaru’s wholesome moments: it’s too big, and how would u squeeze it to input moves?

The problem will probably the two-way communication with the device. Somehow the opponents move have to end up on the device to calculate responses. It might buzz some kind of morse code to tell you what to do, but how do you feed input into it? The most realistic stand alone operation I can see, is to fit everything into your shoe sole and use morse code with your toes to type the moves.

@timwilson7326

Жыл бұрын

That's what I'm wondering

@timwilson7326

Жыл бұрын

Maybe he has a micro switch installed where he can squeeze his anal sphincter a number of times to feed the information. And it could really just be one or two critical moves per game.

@MacLuckyPTP

Жыл бұрын

you need a 3rd person colluding, often too games are transmitted live

Hikaru must have quite the clean mind if he thinks it'd be impossible to fit something like that in that place. You couldn't do it at first, but I'm pretty sure something that size could be placed there comfortably enough. There are easier ways, but that would work.

@lazyman7505

Жыл бұрын

Larry Dawson talks often about what they used to hide in their 'prison wallets'. And yeah, a lot will fit.

@donnelleraeburn9207

Жыл бұрын

With enough lube, anything is possible

@Jay-407

Жыл бұрын

I know right I can fit atleast 4 of them up there

@morelhunter3966

Жыл бұрын

@Abdullah kamal morse code

@lazyman7505

Жыл бұрын

That's not difficult, you can use something like Morse code or simply encode positions into sequence of vibrations. Problem is the other part required for cheating -> how to keep updating the state of the game (what moves opponent made).

“Really worried about future of chess”-video ends with a picture of Hikaru as half man half machine

@Compassiron1

Жыл бұрын

Haha

@ruthxk7844

Жыл бұрын

true

@farazsiddiqui1312

Жыл бұрын

Haha

@tomsmith4542

Жыл бұрын

The Hikar-Nator 2

@Compassiron1

Жыл бұрын

@@tomsmith4542 Nakanator has a certain ring to it

First of all, he showed a dev board which has tons of stuff the final product wouldn't need. Second of all, the size could obviously be smaller just by the fact that the individual components (the ones you can't really make smaller without compromises) weren't assembled in a way that optimized it for any specific use (if you wanted to ingest it for example you'd make it longer and taller so the 18650 battery and the full size dev board don't both contribute to diameter which you have to swallow). Even if you played Chess in a faraday cage you could also divied it into multiple parts if you needed something smaller parts for ingesting and then have the different parts (say one for input and one for computing the best moves) talk to each other via radio or even use blood vessels for signaling (latter being harder to detect if FIDE starts using faraday cages and radio signal detection). Jamming would be illegal unless they do make a faraday cage good enough to block the jamming inside the building etc, but plenty of EMP safe places exist already (thanks Cold War!) where they could do the matches.

I'm 76 and still playing tournaments (since 1973). The 6 tournaments in a row that Hans played at 100% when you compare it to the best players in the world percentages IS THE "SMOKING GUN" for me.

@mathewpankratz5767

Жыл бұрын

Except that the claims that he played at 100% were doctored and ultimately nonsense…

Hikaru has managed to turn the phrase “thank you so much” into a single word. Impressive.

“Showing it in action” Umm Hikaru? That’s a whole other website..

Hikaru : where would you fit that? Spoon: ...

"The chess speaks for itself" *Hans scuttles away to the washroom to poop out his stockfish computer*

I can't believe that it only now occurred to Hikaru that someone could make a concealable electronic device that plays chess.

@steve43ful

Жыл бұрын

For real all the talk about if such a device is possible should be replaced with talk about the current security measures at locations and how they are (apparently) being defeated.

@Jandodev

Жыл бұрын

Same I thought someone else would have done something like this already. It looks like this has been all behind closed doors!

@felixmerz6229

Жыл бұрын

@@georgesmith4639 No, it doesn't. It just has to react to one single input of any kind of your part, like changing position, squeezing or anything else you can come up with. It can just cycle through a couple of likely responses and wait for that input to happen or not, then go on to the next until you give that input.

@DevinDTV

Жыл бұрын

@@Jandodev someone already made one that can fit into the sole of a shoe

@MuhammadKharismawan

Жыл бұрын

@@steve43ful not defeated, they are simply haphazardly ignored or kot enforced enough. It's an elitist mindset, they don't want people to showcase players having to go through thorough scan on every sanctioned games.

you also dont need a chess computer in it, just a reciever and vibration and calculate the moves on the phone

I really hope Hans brings a bag that has like "CHEAT EQUIPMENT" in yellow on it, would be so funny.

I wonder, will laws be put in place against this as much as the laws that already prohibit cheating in chess?

The device could be way smaller. He used an arduino, which is a general purpose microcontroller which has a lot of io and other components which aren't necessary for this specific application. If you were to have a custom pcb made specifically for a device like this, it could be much smaller and similar size reductions could be made for the other components as well. Again, he was making a device as a proof of concept, but with a bit more money and time I'd imagine you could end up with a device that is half the volume or even less. As for the device requiring a connection and all of the people commenting about faraday cages or other methods to interrupt that connection, I think you are missing the point a bit. My understanding was that the web interface and connection was only used to input moves to the device, and all of the computation was done locally. If that is the case, all that would need to be done to make the cheating device fully self-contained would be to create some way to input moves into the device itself. I think this is why the point of squeezing it somehow was brought up in the video, and I'm sure with time it would be possible to figure out a reliable input method. TLDR: Pretty much all of the drawbacks of the prototype could be addressed to make a very difficult to combat cheating device.

@AntMan999999999

Жыл бұрын

@LostintheWoods I think the thinking with the squeezing method is you'd have some sort of code to input moves based on a sequence of squeezes similarly to how the moves are output with a sequence of vibrations. Again, this would probably be very difficult to do reliably, but with the prize pools that are on the line something being difficult isn't a deterrent, it would need to be impossible

@perryhiley6749

Жыл бұрын

@@AntMan999999999 Very easy to do. Most men can control their penis using the pelvic floor muscles.I would attach a wire that senses electrical impulse in the penis to the device that is inside the cave. Or even better, have the wire taped inside the cave walls. Since the pelvic floor muscle also acts on the cave entrance. Then it's just a matter of giving coordinates and type of piece. A game would look like this: Device asks what are you playing with 1 long vibration. You reply " black" with 2 "inputs" Device asks for opponent move with 3 short vibrations. You reply "pawn a 3" with 1 input for pawn, pause, 1 input for a, pause, 3 inputs for 2. The pause should be something like 2 seconds. However, the whole thing would be much easier if someone is putting in the moves in a phone and the device just tells you what to play based on the game on the phone.

@jesse578

Жыл бұрын

@LostintheWoods the starting position of chess is always the same meaning you only have to input the moves one at a time as they get played in a similar way the device tells you which move to make. I imagine it would be a nice butt workout at the same time.

@cameronl1859

Жыл бұрын

@@AntMan999999999 It wouldn't be that hard. The machine could relay your inputs back to you for verification, and allow you to correct misinterpreted inputs.

@danielestrada3390

Жыл бұрын

Also, even if hans is allegedly a cheater, he's still a gm. Even if the device only indicates that there is a tactic in the next move sequence, they would still find it.

A faraday cage would be a good idea to prevent cheating that is not within the room.

@schmoke.

Жыл бұрын

Chess organizers are going to be hard pressed to spend so much extra money on a bunch of anti-cheating measures on a sport that already isn't a huge earning sport comparative to something like Football. a 6 foot by 12 ft faraday cage is 100 grand USD, and that's a simple one that doesn't block more complicated electromagnetic energies, maintenance is costly as well.

@jastat

Жыл бұрын

The device is self powered and doesn't need to communicate wirelessly with anything. Stockfish is running on an embedded chip. So a faraday cage doesn't help

@highertest

Жыл бұрын

@@jastat quick emp before the match starts haha

@liamconverse8950

Жыл бұрын

@@schmoke. No, it wouldn't be that hard to implement, there's paint that you can buy to paint your house with to turn the walls of your house into a Faraday cage. Also the device in this video wouldn't even work if they just put the broadcast on a delay which they were doing at the Sinquefield cup anyways.

@liroektevwldlkdirje7323

Жыл бұрын

@@jastat yes it does, how would it know what moves are played?

Having that as a chessboard would be great.

I think it's hilarious how naive Hikaru is.

Inputting the moves directly into the device with sphincter squeezes would mean a grandmaster would have to resign a game after he sneezes.

@epmcgee

Жыл бұрын

It's been suggested the device could be made to 'read' your input back to you, and you could confirm it or correct it.

@golfaddict75

Жыл бұрын

@@epmcgee so he’s butt squeezing Morse code throughout the game, for a 50 move game how many butt squeezes is that?

@Walthanar

Жыл бұрын

Kegels are on the menu again

@CeroAshura

Жыл бұрын

@@jaideepshekhar4621 what should be investigated now is how tight Hans is after those 50 move games.

@tacokoneko

Жыл бұрын

you don't need to use anus to press the button, the button could simply be on a wire to your toe and the metal detectors are inadequate to detect that, they use detectors designed for knives and guns

Coding it up for morse code would be so much easier, its so simple to learn too. Hans is a strong player, so it doesn' even need to give him the moves, it could simply point to a square and he would almost certainly be able to figure it out.

@taylorg8509

Жыл бұрын

The best move involves the square g7 Is all a top gm would need to know somehow Also the current position on the board would have to evaluated by the engine of course and if match was broadcasted on an hour delay this may stop it you would need a camera inside the venue or a spectator or the cheating player himself relay the position back to the engine

@IrregularPineapples

Жыл бұрын

@@taylorg8509 not even that -- it would only need to buzz once when the opponent has made an inaccuracy and you have a +1 advantage after making the correct move -- a GM with that info would find it

@mohammedfathi3592

Жыл бұрын

If the rumors are all true, then Hans is probably not a GM 🤣🤣

@ghosthunter0950

Жыл бұрын

Why even do something as complicated as morse code? all you need is 8 signals. one for each number. reuse the same ones for each letter. and reuse the same ones based on the the type of piece which there are only 6 of. you differentiate based on the order of the signals.

@AkamiChannel

Жыл бұрын

@@_Cfocus Hans is literally a GM

I have a similar CoreXY printer and not once did I think about laying a glass board and magnets on the hotend. Although the primary function of a 3d printer is multiple orders of magnitude more sophisticated.

You could do it multiple ways .. You could create one that literally physically views the board and it will give you moves based on that, but it's also very easy to input the moves in various ways to give it the board state.

My school (gymnasium germany) used full scale radio jamming in the main hall for exams back in the 90th. It was stopped mainly because the school is situated in the middle of the city right next to the town hall which got jammed as well every time as the radius seems to create interference even hundreds of meters away, not enough to stop phone calls but enough to significantly worsen the quality. Any sufficiently strong jamming device to stop communicating inside a large hall will have an effect on nearby buildings which is the main problem. From a legal standpoint you probably can get a license to use it inside of your own property but unless you are in the middle of nowhere or in a bunker you will always interfere with neighbours making it illegal.

Looks like the battery is the main thing with the size. Also, that is if the computer is local, at this point it is a matter of just receiving a signal that can vibrate or give a shock. I think we will end up with live matches having a 30 minute delay so outside influences cannot happen and players in separate rooms from the spectators. (Only cameras)

@inemanja

Жыл бұрын

If you have input, output, and a decent CPU, you don't need a radio, and you don't care about delay.

Cartels do full radio jamming to steal trucks.

you could have a faraday cage for the room being played in, itd probably cost a lot though

I’ve seen this done in a similar fashion for poker in one of my classmates finals for the upper division game design class i was in a couple years ago. The program was set up to take video input and use an AI system to read and interpret the cards. But it just goes to show the level of entry is low if you know what your doing so I imagine at a high level with chess they probably have some crazy shit set up already

@epmcgee

Жыл бұрын

Considering GMs and Super GMs don't need a lot of information to play at 100% correlation it would be super simple to code a device. It's more complicated if it has to be applied at all levels of chess ability, since it would have to account for novices who know little to nothing. But if it's designed specifically for GMs and Super GMs even something as innocuous as communicating the position improved or degraded would be enough.

@justinmanley8131

Жыл бұрын

Programs are not very good at poker in full table settings yet.

Hikaru talking about putting in a “shoe” reminded me of the soccer tracking devices that you can slip into the sole of your shoe through a flap in the lining. That technology has been around for 5-10 years. You couldn’t feel them in ur shoe, so it wouldn’t change how you run/walk/shoe size and so i feel like it’s no stretch to be able to turn that tech into a cheating device 🤨

Hikaru was asking earlier about how you input the moves but if there is digital boards broadcasting the moves that can all be on the remote device.

Surely to solve this from ever being used at tournaments, they just have to install those airport style walk-through metal detectors? Doesn't matter where you hide one of these things, or how small -- it'll be detected. They could use pin-pointers or even X-ray machines to verify where/what it is if something is detected inside the body.

He is using an esp32 with Lora connectivity. I do no know about the pressure sensor, but absolutely totally possible. Also, this could be a lot smaller, approximately half of its size or maybe even more.

I am a super casual tech guy and I can confirm that device would be able to function. Radio cards for hobbyist electronics have gotten crazy small. Just look at how small your phone is and imagine how much smaller it could get if you removed the speakers and acreen.

@pablogriswold421

Жыл бұрын

I think the size constraint is the vibration motor, not the antenna and CPU (though obviously he used a full IC chip in the demonstration which is unnecessary). To be clear, I think it's still something that would be easy to fit, but getting past the metal detector is the real problem

@paradox5556

Жыл бұрын

@@pablogriswold421 the size constrain is definitely the screen. Cant make it smaller if you want a bit screen.

@oQuindo1

Жыл бұрын

@@pablogriswold421 the only way is to test the metal detectors they are buying and benchmark them against actual cheating hardware. I know me and my buddies took boxcutters into an event where we got wanded before (by mistake)

@oQuindo1

Жыл бұрын

@@paradox5556 There are screens less then an inch big. Shoot you just have rgb leds in a strip that would be a different color depending on the piece on em. Even a single led could communicate the entire board state through Morse code.

@thePyiott

Жыл бұрын

Making a custom board is also cheap and easy to do. It can be done in software then ordered online for a few bucks

Soon, we'll have all competitors go through an MRI to enter the competition hall.

I have been with you from the beginning to the end Hikaru, ever since you were on the cover of Chess Life ... thanks for this - I agree~~

I think putting a device in the shoe is totally viable, lots of space in the sole. And you could input moves with the toes, and get a little electrical shock for what move to make.. It's totally possible. Additionally when they are scanned for electronics, it doesn't seem like they can much further down than the pockets.

@jaconova

Жыл бұрын

Man, I can assure they are already implanting shit on people at military level. Research nanotechnology and internet of bodies. Check for Allison McDowell videos if you REALLY want to see how deep the rabbit hole goes. Is very brutal.

@youngspaghettii

Жыл бұрын

They checked inside of the shoes as well there's full security footage. This is why so many ppl think he put it in his booty. "Sockfish" was already invented by someone and since then they check in shoes at these tournaments

@youngspaghettii

Жыл бұрын

To clarify they do not use the metal detector for this part participants actually removed their shoes like they were goin thru tsa

@greenfroggood2392

Жыл бұрын

Just make a rule that every player has to wear flipflops

@steve43ful

Жыл бұрын

@@youngspaghettii sounds like as long as it was camouflaged it would've gotten through then, like if they hollowed out the heel and the sealed it back up

Imagine having one of those inside. The physical capacity has to be similar to the mental to not break haha.

@Jandodev

Жыл бұрын

Facts :)

@orinlee6123

Жыл бұрын

Imagine for a second... you adopt the mindset of a power bottom in training. You could have one of these in for hours like training to acclimate to a super saiyan transformation. Then... you get to the tournament. You've practiced playing chess with your bottom so much that while your opponent is playing you, you're playing the equivalent of dance dance revolution or guitar hero with your sphincter. I imagine Magnus saw this going on in front of him and said ... "fuck this shit! i'm out". Seems ... pretty accurate to the scene described ... lmao!!!!!

"You can't block 9-1-1" Cement structures: I do what I want

Yall better get ready for a full cavity search before every major tournament.

It is actually incredibly easy to put a small arduino or raspberry pi board inside an elevated shoe and encode it so it buzzes a move. It takes 3 bits (buzzes) to encode rank, file and piece. You can do one type of buzz for 1 and another for 0. So it takes 9 buzzes to send the move to the player which can take just to be certain like 2 seconds per buzz. You can send a whole move in 18 seconds which is more than enough for a classical game.

@dannygjk

Жыл бұрын

@@boomdibam9823 ?? not necessary to see the stream.

@epmcgee

Жыл бұрын

@@boomdibam9823 from all the reports I've seen they're only suggesting a delay be implemented, not that it already has been.

@teriyakipigeon1838

Жыл бұрын

@@epmcgee there was a 50 minute delay at sinqefield

@aventura8491

Жыл бұрын

@@teriyakipigeon1838 No, 15 minutes. And after it had been implemented, Hans suddenly played weaker. PS: 15 minutes is to little. A pro player only needs one or two hints during a game.

@davemarinas3259

Жыл бұрын

@@teriyakipigeon1838 Fake news. Hans was no longer the monster he was after they implemented a 15 minute delay what if you made it actually 50

Seriously tho I cant believe how people thinks its hard to cheat on the board. With how advanced our technology is nowadays its very possible to cheat.

@donquixote8462

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, you'd think chess players would have an ounce of creativity, visualization or conceptualizing yet unrealized concepts but oh well.

1:56 Hikaru: - Be prepared, Magnus!

Best place to put it would be your shoe. Could have one taped to each foot or inserted in the soles. Left indicates row and right is column. All you need is to buzz the original square and then the square to move. For example a4 to e8 - (1 buzz on right foot, 4 buzzes on the left) followed by 5 right and 8 left. You don't have to insert it where the sun don't shine if security is that weak. Easy peasy.

The Hans Device is actually the name of the neck brace used by race car drivers. It is probably trademarked!!

You put it in the prison pocket, obviously.

“Im looking in a place that you can pu it” 😂

That does look like a plug, just needs the ergonomic shape. Needs a tip to facilitate insertion, a bottom so that it doesn't go all the way in and a thinner section so that it doesn't fall off accidentally

When they scanned Hans shoes, it seemed as if they only scanned the front portion, not the heals.

They only need a close range radio jammer in the players chair seats.

@hamsterfromabove8905

Жыл бұрын

Its still not legal for civilian use. It doesn't matter how small of an area you're effecting or for what reason. It is illegal for civilians to use a radio jammer for any reason. You are never allowed to block 911 calls from any location at any time.

@epmcgee

Жыл бұрын

Faraday cage

"It looks too big, that looks too big right now..." Oh sweet innocent hikaru

Hi Hikaru, It seems like the reason the device might be so big right now is because he seem to have used a normal battery from store. Maybe that means, that if one had more time and even a more little resources, it could shrink.

Legend has it Hans cheeks is still buzzin after his win

I always love how twitch chat does the following, I ll take the radio jamming as example: Everyone writes a different answer for as to why it isn’t allowed. After a minute, someone gives the actual answer (911 calls blocked). Then all of a sudden people all come to the conclusion and everyone starts writing the answer as if they knew.

@wildbanana5527

Жыл бұрын

My first thought was airplane lines etc. Also, I doubt any sane country wouldn't make it illegal, considering it could be used to hide a military threat.

@bt8593

Жыл бұрын

I mean, it is a hivemind, after all

@HowToFixLowerBackPain

Жыл бұрын

tbf i think some of them are just repeating it to bring the right answer to the streamer's attention. But yeh, definitely a lot of iamverysmarts in there as well.

@shaunmcisaac782

Жыл бұрын

It's more than just 911 though. You can't block the bands used by local police, local fire, local EMS. Those aren't on cell phone bands, but you best believe you are getting arrested if you attack local PD's radios.

@kibbit1373

Жыл бұрын

@@shaunmcisaac782 That isn't my point though. I don't care about the radio topic specifically, it was just the example I used to prove my point.

Full cavity searches and naked chess here on out! 😂😂😂

Chat had it wrong. You needed the phone to input your opponents moves

If Hikaru says something is scary, then I’m scared

@mobileebikerentals2940

Жыл бұрын

The dude is not very smart when it comes to anything but chess apparently. He A. Didn't realize this was supposed to go in the anal cavity even after all the accusations. Just completely clueless. And B. Doesn't address the fact that you need another human to input the moves on the phone in real time. Which in that event they were on a 15 min delay.

This was done in like 4 hours or something. Feel like if anyone with a background in this stuff gave it some actual time it would be very small and much much better (which I think he said). As someone who has messed around with this sort of stuff just for fun, I see this as just a rough prototype and know that it could get way smaller. My only issue with this is I don't know if it could get past a metal detector.

@epmcgee

Жыл бұрын

It's a prototype using bulky and cheap components. There are much smaller components that could be purchased and used that perform the same way, so it's just a matter of this guy mocking it up with the more expensive and smaller parts in mind. If the metal detector is good quality, probably not. The ones used at the OTB tourney where Hans beat Magnus were cheap and designed for large metallic objects.

Hikaru is like an old lady vibing out of gossips

Hans was using special contact lenses that received visual cues.

If you'll notice, before the epoxy, he's using a battery shaped cell of some kind, I feel like you could easily use a flat lithium cell and it would probably fit in a shoe no problem. That said, I think playing matches in a large faraday cage (and as another commenter noted, is quite the expense) is probably the only viable solution to this if external input is required to get the state of the board.

@Jandodev

Жыл бұрын

Yep thats correct :) there are small solid state batteries that can be the size of like a coin way tinyier

@IrregularPineapples

Жыл бұрын

not if the player could input the moves himself

@mstefa007

Жыл бұрын

@@IrregularPineapples of course. Imagine twitching your quad muscle (or flexing your bicep) in Morse code to input move. And getting a buzz back as reply. Not only is possible but easily made as demonstrated here.

@pickle6529

Жыл бұрын

@@IrregularPineapples That's why I said "if external input is required"

@kylebroflovski6382

Жыл бұрын

You don't need a faraday cage, that's beyond overkill. All you need is something to scan for the presence of electromagnetic frequencies, such as a camera that can see wifi which youtuber The Thought Emporium made

Players could be required to wear vibration sensors of some sort to overcome this type of cheating. Distinctive buzzing in the colon, ear, etc should be able to be detected elsewhere on the body

@BattleAxeRX

Жыл бұрын

I think the buzzes would be haptic only and a mic isn't the type of gear for that. Special chairs sounds like a good idea i think but i don't know.

"I feel like it's too big" Damn Hikaru, mmm Zaddy. 😭😂

It can also be that a third person is the one analyzing the games with an engine then he sends the top engine moves through vibration. In that case, it can really be made way smaller than the one shown in the video. Heck it can be hidden in any part of the body as long as u feel the vibrations, it makes the anal bead somewhat viable lmfao. Adding to this, they can also buy the same brand of metal detectors fide is using and make preparations before hand so that no natter what searching/scanning they do, they'll never find it.