Hans Niemann is AlphaZero CONFIRMED!
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Idea for a TV series. A school professor in poor health is tired of working 2 jobs for little to no money and goes on to win chess tournaments by cheating in most devious ways. Name: Breaking Bead
@dominikudovicic3573
Жыл бұрын
I m the one who checks
@esh6767
Жыл бұрын
Rook at me Magnus. Rook at me.
@prodmodri
Жыл бұрын
Why are you copy pasting Antonios Tweet 🤨
@somegoddamnguy
Жыл бұрын
a subplot involving los caballos hermanos
@crocopsjonjones5534
Жыл бұрын
The beads gambit.
I suppose my friends at the bar won't be very impressed when I explain them the difference between proof and evidence. But my friends at the library are gonna love it
@rodstone1597
Жыл бұрын
Best comment of the month
@sattvi
Жыл бұрын
Amazing
@dragonovich6257
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 Ingenious
@mattp8654
Жыл бұрын
The thing that kinda annoys me... Is that people are making such a big deal about how Magnus handled it.. Like at the end of the day it's any of their effhing business... Kept hearing things like Magnus owes an explanation... Like how stupid can you be... Why would he give Hans neiman the power to sue him after Magnus accused him of cheating... Because that's exactly what he did.. End of story.. And people want to tap dance around that and make a mountain of a molehill "what did he mean" "what in the world is going on" " this is so bad, magnus is wromg for this".. Magnus was very clear that he thought Hans cheated on him in in the 1st match and then undoubtedly reconfirmed it for any of the slow bus people .. w e
@marshallrose8762
Жыл бұрын
hahaha
Agadmator: "I'm not interested in making any claims or trying to prove anyone is a cheater, so take this all light-heartedly. There's a difference between evidence and proof." Agadmator's KZread thumbnail: "Hans Niemann is AlphaZero CONFIRMED!"
@kurtblancheardina929
Жыл бұрын
😆😆
@joshlisik2196
Жыл бұрын
Yea, no shit. I liked this guy, but if theres something online i hate its being shamelessly clickbaited. Fuck this channel
@Tekay37
Жыл бұрын
While this comment adds to the "engagement" for this video and might attract even more viewers, I also made the decision to "block" the channel, so it doesn't get into my timeline again, because of that.
@kennethkretschmer1027
Жыл бұрын
All these people are willing to die on the hill of defending a cheater’s honor, intriguing.
@hivesteel
Жыл бұрын
@@Tekay37 yep I’ll do the same, click bait is a cancer
Hans just by miracle analyzed this exact position the day before
@ramganeshj7664
Жыл бұрын
But somehow forgets immediately after the game
@aronrosas4191
Жыл бұрын
@@ramganeshj7664 "chess speaks for itself"
@AndyBizzzle
Жыл бұрын
The chess speaks for itself
@MrBobbyw121
Жыл бұрын
Chess speaks for itself
@renatomercurio4774
Жыл бұрын
I don't even need to comment this.
Props to Mishra for lasting 56 moves against AlphaZero.
@lionelmessi4953
Жыл бұрын
literally. i mean this is worse than engine accuracy. either hans is the best player ever in history of chess. or something is stockfishy about this.
@MauricioMartinez0707
Жыл бұрын
@@lionelmessi4953 Did you not watch the video? agad specifically points out that BOTH of them basically played top engine moves the entire game, not just Hans
@jtindisa
Жыл бұрын
@@MauricioMartinez0707 yes but that knight trapping the king is not how humans play.
@lalapt127
Жыл бұрын
except that mishra has calculated couple of moves ahead , while hans moves shows effect after 10 moves later.
@stephenmeek5757
Жыл бұрын
@@lalapt127 trapping your own piece isn't something a human would consider but an engine would play it
0:01 Hello everyone 0:50 If you check the dictionary really quickly 2:04 Spectacular game 2:45 Nothing to do for Stockfish 4:01 Completely new game 5:35 Game over 6:29 Castles queenside 6:47 7:20 9:39 11:15 12:58 Captures captures 7:49 Feel free to pause the video 9:12 Play pretty much the rest of the game without a king 9:33 Pawn to b4 10:45 Voice crack 13:25 It was in this position 13:54 So yeah
@Jewgataga
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@Jewgataga
Жыл бұрын
The B4 move.. always lool
@bobeyay
Жыл бұрын
agadmatorino? is that you?
@BM-wp7nh
Жыл бұрын
please don't waste your time like this ever again
@carlosabregosuarez
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
Impressive, not many people can take Alpha Zero into a King pawn endgame.
@verrettlasatt7909
Жыл бұрын
Well put my friend
@charbroiledmonk1033
Жыл бұрын
Clearly the youngest Grandmaster in history has nothing on the Smoken Niemann 5000.
@kwittnebel
Жыл бұрын
So were they both cheating?
@kwittnebel
Жыл бұрын
Imagine cheating with top engine moves all game and still losing.
@dizzy9146
Жыл бұрын
@@kwittnebel are you slow ?
Heroic performance by Mishra, considering he was playing against perfection.
@tongobong1
Жыл бұрын
Yes Hans is really good. He is going to replace Magnus.
Agadmator giving out English as well as chess lessons, love to see it!
@truth1549
Жыл бұрын
dont uknow he used to teach us english earlier
@dark_mode
Жыл бұрын
and engine lessons
@monkey2.092
Жыл бұрын
Still having some problem with pronouns though 🤣
@tonyofhousestark1511
Жыл бұрын
Vast knowledge!
@luckyno888
Жыл бұрын
... and logic...
"Alphazero speaks for itself" - Hans
@elaadt
Жыл бұрын
"Alphazero speaks for Hans." - myself
@joelwilliamson3322
Жыл бұрын
@@elaadt “Hans speaks for Alphazero” -me
@irawanie8635
Жыл бұрын
Like Deep Blue, AlphaZero is already taken into museum by Google. So using AlphaZero engine is a nonsense of course.
@dizzy9146
Жыл бұрын
@@irawanie8635 I don't think they actually believe hans is cheating in this game
@bobbyfischer7179
Жыл бұрын
@@dizzy9146 Dude he's cheating come on 😂🤣
Luckily Hans was studying this exact position two nights ago! Hard work pays off folks
Former prosecutor here. To see Agad discuss the proof v. evidence concept, Agad again has reached a new level of awesomeness.
@cdunne1620
Жыл бұрын
..YES BUT IT IS REALLY HURTING THE MAGNUS / HIKAROO FANBOYS, there will be many sleepless nights heh heh
@YodaZemunski
Жыл бұрын
As if we needed more reasons to respect this man. Props, nothing else.
@GR-qz8fx
Жыл бұрын
ALAB
English can be a confusing language. For example, this is a compliment: “Hans is alpha zero”. And this is an accusation: “Hans is alpha zero.”
@catstealer419dominion7
Жыл бұрын
We must polish the Polish furniture.
@PhilL30tard0
Жыл бұрын
This has nothing to do with english, the meaning of the two sentence depends on the tone, the way you say it it’s not exclusive to english
@tomr6955
Жыл бұрын
@@PhilL30tard0 But you're speaking English right? Surely it's a function of English.
@user-qh4dr1vy9d
Жыл бұрын
This is just context, show me a language that is not affected by it
@rochfati2732
Жыл бұрын
It depends on the context regardless the language used : Arabic, French, Chinese...u name it
The beginning of an Agadmator video is ALWAYS a chuckle-fest. Seriously amazing dry humor.
@barbaroacosta5335
Жыл бұрын
Easter Europeans are the kings of dry humor.
@MrNoWaya
Жыл бұрын
@@barbaroacosta5335 ah yes, Croatia, the heart of eastern Europe!
@DS-me7kk
Жыл бұрын
@@MrNoWaya Also, Italy land of the rising sun
Niemann played AlphaZero and 7 moves in AlphaZero said "Hey, wait a minute. Am I playing myself?"
@AnandSrinivasan
Жыл бұрын
The chess speaks for itself!
@skalderman
Жыл бұрын
That would be where ai spoke for itself
Whatever engine Hans is using behind the scenes is truly one of the best players of all time.
AlphaZero spoke for itself.
@jwaxmcgeeg9706
Жыл бұрын
You just made my day lmao
@drstrange9603
Жыл бұрын
Hans is from Multiverse, he cheated in one Universe and he is World champion in another where Magnus cheated! The root of all problems is he often gets confused which Universe he is in and hence says "Chess speaks for itself"
@1VIP1daniel1VIP1
Жыл бұрын
xD
@spiralfireball8663
Жыл бұрын
@@drstrange9603 LOL 😂😂😂😂
@abdullahsaidgul8005
Жыл бұрын
AlphaBeads*
In the era of debate, proof vs evidence is definitely something I can use in my travels, thank you agadmator. More studying to do.
@dmitripogosian5084
Жыл бұрын
If you think what prove is, it is always a decision to consider the evidence sufficient. Unless it is a trivial logical construction, but that carries no new knowledge
@tor13128
Жыл бұрын
but don't go overboard. because proof is built from evidence, so the only practical use you'd have from the definition would basically be to point out inconclusive evidence, which im sure you were already doing, which really makes no difference in practical cases. you don't want to be the annoying one going around saying "that's not proof, that's evidence!"
@jestice75
Жыл бұрын
Just wait until you folks get a hold of the idea of preponderance of evidence.
@illumidev4201
Жыл бұрын
I have never felt the touch of a woman.
@palestalemale8831
Жыл бұрын
@@illumidev4201 anime pfp checks out.
"While it loses the game, it is the absolute best move" - I seem to find quite a lot of those.
Hans last game as an IM against GM Sebastian Maze was a "Spectacular one". Hans Won in 22 moves and not a single piece was captured in the game.
@Consortiumed
Жыл бұрын
Use #suggestion so he can see this comment when looking for future video ideas!
I remember your upload of AlphaZero trapping the Stockfish queen on H8. That was possibly the most insane engine game I've ever seen played out. Love when you reference a couple year old video, I know exactly which game you're talking about :)
@elmahdiboulhya6835
Жыл бұрын
Can you show what the game is please ! Thanks in advance
@mariostone2404
Жыл бұрын
Bump
@lornemalvo4492
Жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/nnqMrLmJmKfZg7w.html here is the game for those who are asking
@elmahdiboulhya6835
Жыл бұрын
@@lornemalvo4492 thanks but no. I want the game where alphazero traped his OWN queen in purpose
@lornemalvo4492
Жыл бұрын
@@elmahdiboulhya6835 ??? In the video Antonio references the game where AlphaZero trapped the queen, which is what I linked. There is no video of AlphaZero trapping their own queen if that's what you're looking for, as far as I know.
He speaks English better than half the people I know and I live in the middle of the United States
@Jonekkk933
Жыл бұрын
same but i live in england west midlands....
@sooperd00p
Жыл бұрын
Its our public education system. it is 100% corrupt from top to bottom. they barely teach anything constructive or practical outside of The Message. Its a crime against humanity and that is not hyperbole. its really bad here.
@catstealer419dominion7
Жыл бұрын
I’m a generic midwestern white man, albeit a highly educated one, and I can’t speak a second language to save my life. Nothing but respect for those people who achieve fluency in a second tongue.
@dannacht6827
Жыл бұрын
Most Americans draw their family lineage from laborers. They weren't scholars by any means.
@deadlyopponent6656
Жыл бұрын
@@catstealer419dominion7 you have no idea how hard it is.. it took years from to even be somehow acknowledged as almost a fluent English speaker since my mother tangue is Arabic. 8 years in particular and thousands of hours spent listening and engaging with the foreigns to improve
"The chess speaks for itself" ~ AlphaZero
this video is probably going to blow up and i'm glad. you 100% deserve it thanks for the great videos
"AlphaZero lives vicariously through me." -probably Hans Niemann
@rajaselvam37
Жыл бұрын
*lives vicariously in my asshole
@danyboon4851
Жыл бұрын
I can feel alpha zero in my gut
@njason700
Жыл бұрын
@@danyboon4851 pause
@deadpool8580
Жыл бұрын
@@danyboon4851 What's alpha zero doing in your butt?
@treck87
Жыл бұрын
"Gives tapeworm a whole new meaning" -- Elon Musk probably
Basically Hans has 9 100% games and 24 above 90% in the last 3 years. Magnus has only had 3 100% games in his entire career. Hans had a 6 tournament run with an average engine move better than Bobby Fischer's famous 20 game win streak. This is a feat that neither Fischer, Magnus or Kasparov accomplished at their peak. So either he suddenly became the greatest player of all time after turning 17, or he is cheating. You decide.
@4vn14
Жыл бұрын
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, ITS A DUCK!
@markoerakovic9899
Жыл бұрын
Again that is bull****, people raging over 100% are dumbos, you would be surprised but the 100% of those 3 Carlsen games were the exciting ones, most of the 100% games go unnoticed as they are boring, you play well and then you win and forget it. Also I doubt you did research those games and even if you did, you probably did it poorly. Thats why special teams are made for this. You do not find cheaters like GM Naroditsky by booting up stockfish in 3:30 in the morning and going......... Complete nonsense, and as Ben Finegold said: It's all not really anything except good content for Hikaru, Agad, Levy and others... They are not able to pinpoint anything, but granted its entertaining^^
@dimkilago2958
Жыл бұрын
Where you saw these stats lol?Paranoia...
@danielsogge136
Жыл бұрын
@@dimkilago2958 Google it?
@danielsogge136
Жыл бұрын
It speaks for itself, as if it wasn't obviously enough before that data emerged.
I really like your handling of the Carlsen-Niemann Situation, not taking sides, no speculations just facts and refusing to indulge in wild rumors. Thanks for that and please stay like that.
@oscarwahlstrom5426
Жыл бұрын
I don't think this video is without subtle insinuations.
@austinnunez2031
Жыл бұрын
@@oscarwahlstrom5426 agreed, he leans more towards defending Hans than looking at it from strictly a stats perspective. I believe innocent until proven guilty but once chessbase showed the numbers, statistically there is no way he didnt play unfairly. In this game if i recall Hans got a 100% engine correlation and Mishra got 77%. i could be wrong i'm going by vague memory from when I watched the video. Awesome defense by Mishra, and if this was the only 100% game from Hans then it really is his best game of his life. However he has 10 100% games, where most top GMs dont even have 1. Very suspicious.
@slothbearanonymous
Жыл бұрын
I remember this one young guy who made it his life's goal to beat the world champion. And when the day finally arrived he was so excited to explain how well he played. He was buzzing with enthusiasm and joy so keen to talk to the camera. And so with absolute excitement at achieving his lifes goal he stood in front of that camera. But in a strange turn of events he said in a grumpy, almost angry tone, "chess speaks for itself", and walked away. Then the audience asked, why was he angry after winning? A voice of judgement whispered, "he is angry because he sold his soul".
@tyrannusrex31
Жыл бұрын
@@slothbearanonymous It’s weird that he went from cheating between the ages of 12 and 16 to beating the world champion at 19 and the only comments he could make about the game were actively avoiding talking about the game.
@Frip36
Жыл бұрын
Define "facts" and we'll take you seriously. Until then, you'll remain a willfully naive ostrich.
I was one of the participants in this tournament and I thought this game and the game vs Ostrovskiy were out of the ordinary
@bhough410
Жыл бұрын
#suggestion can we see the game vs Ostrovskiy too?
@stateofdecay2210
Жыл бұрын
because he's a cheater
@dizzy9146
Жыл бұрын
No you weren't lol.
@r_se
Жыл бұрын
@@dizzy9146 yea he was search gauri shankar charlotte fall invitational and youll see he participated
@johncale1849
Жыл бұрын
What do you mean by "out of the ordinary"?
I’m more impressed with the defense. What a boss
@user-mj3gi6zf7i
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, very inpressive defence against StockFish or LC0.
@avg_user-dd2yb
Жыл бұрын
@@user-mj3gi6zf7i cope.
@michaelharbach1987
Жыл бұрын
Trapping your own knight in order to trap the king is by far the most impressive idea in this particular game
@magnum4989
Жыл бұрын
probably both cheating lmao
@onionman8160
Жыл бұрын
@@magnum4989 damn, everyone is cheating nowadays
If Hans used engine in this game and his opponent really did well and put up a great fight then Mishra could be the next big star in chess, imagine fighting chess engine only to lose In a king and pawn endgame.
@username_PK
Жыл бұрын
He is youngest GM
@user-mj3gi6zf7i
Жыл бұрын
He is a Star already.
@kunalsandilya6034
Жыл бұрын
He would not be using engine for each move
@aoi6307
Жыл бұрын
@@kunalsandilya6034 but they say it's 100% accuracy
@OfficialSwisher
Жыл бұрын
Amazing for him.
Agad since we are seeing a Hans effects more often, now you have to also specify whether the game was played online mode or on the board… just like you mention whether it’s Classical, Rapid etc
@applesteve6932
Жыл бұрын
Look at the little android robot cartoon in the bottom right of the video. Just below Agadmator. This indicates whether the game is Classical, Rapid, etc by the letter on the robot android cartoon. C = Classical R = Rapid B = Blitz
@TheGrinningSkull
Жыл бұрын
@@applesteve6932 you didn’t answer his question. Original commentator already knows this, but wanted to know if this is over the board or online. Perhaps it was all over the board until after covid?
@starliaghtsz8400
3 ай бұрын
@@TheGrinningSkullwho the hell plays online classical games
The question I asked myself was who would think of trapping their own knight so early with the plan of using it to trap the white king and essentially heading for an endgame where kings are much more useful than knights. I don't remember reading anything like that in Kotov's pre-engine era classic "Think like a grandmaster". Time for someone to write "Think like an engine".
Hans "The chess speaks for itself" Niemann
White King: Now you've trapped yourself. Black Knight: I'm not trapped here with you , you're trapped here with me!
@-_Nuke_-
Жыл бұрын
I can hear this comment :D
@sublimeade
Жыл бұрын
"Now youre gonna find out the score." Alpha: 0-1. Come and get me!
@plantsir9173
Жыл бұрын
😂
@holydodo
Жыл бұрын
It's clear now that Bruce Wayne was never Batman, it was Walter Joseph Kovacs all along!
@1001011011010
Жыл бұрын
As Fabiano said, the king is a piece too! That king ain't going anywhere.
I'm so hyped, I called the Re6 brilliancy, quite proud of that one. Just thinking of the logic of "the opposing rook is forced to capture otherwise you lose the rook or knight"
I think it's easier to make near perfect moves in response to perfect moves than it is to make the original perfect moves. It's like following someone down a rugged path when they already know where it's going.
“How dare you compare alpha zero to me, I’m alpha 007” Hans Neiman
@tor13128
Жыл бұрын
007 makes sense since Hans is every engine in disguise like a spy. Alpha Zero is incapable of disguise.
@TheHomelessDreamer
Жыл бұрын
AlphaZero speaks for itself
Suffocating the king with the pawns is so like the alpha zero play style.
@camreese
Жыл бұрын
Bro forreal thats not a human style of playing
@dimkilago2958
Жыл бұрын
@@camreese The position is not so complex lol.The lines are so forced.
@swapnilkulkarni877
Жыл бұрын
@@dimkilago2958 Like you have enough elo rating to judge whether it is forcing or not lol..
@dimkilago2958
Жыл бұрын
@@swapnilkulkarni877 Of course i have noob.
@danielsogge136
Жыл бұрын
@@dimkilago2958 What is this? A 10 year old from RuneScape 2008? Fascinating.
Brutal partida!.gracias Agadmator's,Saludos.
Bravo Stari..odlicna analiza
I can’t believe Hans played better than Fischer at his peak! Amazing.
@Bobo-Vieri
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@truth1549
Жыл бұрын
thats why we call him fishy
@manasuniyal2897
Жыл бұрын
Fisher was literally the best . . . . .
@zero-ui1ew
Жыл бұрын
@@manasuniyal2897 no he wasnt
@TheBhezard
Жыл бұрын
Did fischer train with the best chess player ?
Either Misra plays AlphaZero and forced only move...or Hans plays like AlphaZero would..both are scary
Hans is a genius. Either as player or as cheater.
@utilitymonster8267
Жыл бұрын
What is so genius about cheating?
@DosPerspectiva
Жыл бұрын
@@utilitymonster8267 cheating successfully requires even more skill than the legal way. You'll understand if you cheat and lie regularly. That's why fugitives actually make excellent detectives.
@cosmonautreborn6908
Жыл бұрын
I have never seen him play IRL, but I know people who have, and they hold him in very high regard to say the least. There is no doubt that Niemann is a chess prodigy
@khalidcloud4342
Жыл бұрын
Not getting caught under all that load of anti chea tmeasures of course....
@utilitymonster8267
Жыл бұрын
@@cosmonautreborn6908 Every Grandmaster is a prodigy, so that’s quite a useless statement.
Agad with the wisdom. I will definitely tell my friends at the bar the difference between proof and evidence. I appreciate how fair you've been on the topic a truly level headed commentator. I myself need to work on that.
If you watch Fabi and Nakas commentary on the whole situation it is clear that they are 99% sure that chess speaks for itself
@snaxx2337
Жыл бұрын
Nakamura? That bandwagon jumping drama queen?
@bassmanjr100
Жыл бұрын
Ignore any gossip Naki shares and your world will be better for it.
@Rohanifed
Жыл бұрын
@@snaxx2337 Yes, aka the guy who was right all along.
@bbartlow0307
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Fabi was very objective and trying hard to put the best construction on every move. But even he started using the word "suspicious".
@bricehatcher8391
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Wesley literally thanked the anti cheating committee after beating Hans in the sinquefield cup. What does that tell us?
Your assessment was very helpful. Thank you agadmator.
Pure genius. Thank you for sharing this with us.
Great game! Also, I just realized how truly brilliant Agad is as a person, with the proof/evidence analysis; seeking to clarify subtle ambiguities. Keep it up and best wishes.
One thing Caruana pointed at his analysis was the close to none time spent by hans on these brilliant moves
@misterunknown8923
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The moves made a lot of sense though, they were not really hard to spot
@schroederluck7984
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@@misterunknown8923 🧢
@avg_user-dd2yb
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Hans plays good chess.
@lokeshkumar-ff8kx
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@@misterunknown8923 i think you should be the next wildcard entry for the candidates man
@azzaamekk5264
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@@misterunknown8923 😳
The Alpha Zero speaks for itself.
@miloradowicz
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More like Hans speaks for AlphaZero, while AlphaZero speaks against Hans.
So refined and well explained! I appreciate very much your work agadmator!
Wow, brilliant game. That king cage was a thing of beauty, but in fairness, what a defence from Mishra. I suppose one way of putting the first point in simple terms is that evidence suggests something, proof confirms it.
Hans gave Mishra a Knightmare!
anyone else remember a few years ago when hans was playing hikaru online (and getting destoryed) and his heart rate went crazy high, to the point where he nearly passed out, and hikaru was told about it and stopped the game? that's why magnus' statement about hans not appearing stressed is very interesting. maybe he has just changed and matured so much recently, but he used to get VERY stressed while playing
@itachi60001
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You get used to it, when i first plaued against my IM coach i hyperventilated and had to go out to take a breather, after that it just became mpre and more normal, hans has played like 200 games in the past year i think, not surprising his nerves have got better.
@billsmock5410
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That was his first opportunity to play him IIRC and it was also a tournament so he was freaking out. Cried when he lost, somehow convinced himself it was the only shot he'd ever have at playing a super GM.
@wszczebrzeszyn
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You can't be stressed if you know you'll win thanks to an engine.
@pahulgill6114
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comparing Hans when he was a kid playing against his idol to when he is an adult Super GM???
@nialljasper2481
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Wouldn't you be more stressed while cheating tho? Because you're afraid that if you get caught your career is dead
A completely fascinating game; even more so given the back-story that Nieman faces…
The chess spoke for itself once again
This is absolutely an engine game.
@user-mj3gi6zf7i
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I think Alpha Zero would be proud for such a game for black!
@roflol100
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Yea no doubt
Actually a cool nickname if he eventually clears his name - Hans “the engine” Niemann.
@youtubeuniversity9098
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He will end up claiming he is part ***** ancestry.
@Triple3D
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Bro he is a cheater u still think he can come clean? 😂😂😂
@atomaalatonal
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more like hans "100%" niemann
@jdbond1990
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@@Triple3D admittedly a big “if” 😏
@Triple3D
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@@jdbond1990 more like the smallest if. My guy went silent after Carlsen's statement. Also not mentioning his suspicions all this time and his replies after beating magnus. Not even the superGMs dared to speak like that against Carlsen after thry beat him in a match. Not only Hans is a cheater but a kid who didn't raised well
For English being your second language, you used the "smoking gun" metaphor perfectly. Great video as always!
Rorschach's infamous "I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me" quote would have been fantastic for this video
@plouischenu
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Was thinking about that same quote ^^ was reading Watchmen few days ago
@sublimeade
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Its not infamous, its famous
You gotta love Agad's take on the situation. So balanced and reasonable... What a great contributor to chess and education in general.
@Mat0m
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Really the man, i like his Intake in this
@schlechtgut8349
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did you read the title?
Hans "The Engine" Neimann
Hope all is well. Great to see you on my feed again.
Good sir, your double entendre, reverse psychology sarcasm is an art in and of itself.
Another way to explain the difference is: Evidence is suggestive, proof is definitive. Love the channel.
@CramcrumBrewbringer
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Not in court.
@tonyrichmond9428
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@@CramcrumBrewbringer explain
@stevenjones8575
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@@timetheory84 Perhaps a more accurate analogy would be you have an admitted serial killer in custody, and you're pressing them to find out if they have any more victims you don't know about. Pretty standard procedure.
@tonyrichmond9428
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@@timetheory84 if you have proof, you don't need evidence (unless the proof depends upon it). Just because you have a suspect and you find evidence doesn't mean you can prove the suspect did it, even if he really did (I think that's what you're saying), sure. But if you have proof that so and so did it, what else do you need?
@tonyrichmond9428
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@@stevenjones8575 but more to the point, a confession isn't proof either, just more evidence.
I like how nuanced Agadmator is. Since he is not a top GM, this is the best move in the position.
@hypercubemaster2729
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@@MrK623 That went right over your head. 😐
@tatrotzz3643
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@@MrK623 You totally misunderstood his comment.
@hypercubemaster2729
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@@tatrotzz3643 Right. Antonio was definitely dropping subtle hints, lol.
@paulm2518
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Did I get here too late and a previous comment has been removed? :)
@dtouey
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Well, unlike a gm, he doesn't have to kiss Carlson's ass.
Mishra is a badass. I can't wait to see him go for a title run. The boy can play!
@jootpepet
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Double standard
@likghdd260
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Yess
@martinmaguire-music6692
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@@jootpepet Plot Twist: they both cheated. Mishra's engine just glitched out for a second,
Top or 2nd top engine move doesn't give us a percentage of accuracy like chessbase might. Do you know the percentage accuracy score they each had? I think you should analyze one of Hans' 100% games with 30+ moves.
Wow what a mature and sensible guy...Among all chess channels this is the only guy who has refused to defame someone without proof...Kudos to you...Respect from Pakistan
@malibunights7108
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that is what I love about Gotham! he is really a good guy
@iforgot383
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why do you have to add pakistan as if its related to anything??
@maloxi1472
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You're being very liberal with your use of the word "defame". No one "defamed" Hans.
@peapod5629
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@Hunters Laptop Even if he did suspect Hans was cheating, he is mature enough to not rattle about it as if he had definitive proof. He understands his words have consequences unlike some other content creators...
@dhrubaganguly7758
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Pakistani commenting on chess channels?😬
It's the most sus game of his career because it wins move by move but later down the line. No human would play like that with a thought of getting winning endgame. Only engines play like that.
According to Megabase, the moves were played previously in a game He-Yip (16.05.2020), until black deviated in move 11.
Since the king was trapped i felt like Abhimanyu was being tortured by Niemann, there was never a chance to recover from that
This game is really instructive I think. It shows the importance of the King in the endgame. :>
@revant147
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the beauty there was getting equality with a trapped piece else if that pawn chain would fall it would have been gg
@avg_user-dd2yb
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Pawn push,and knight sacrifice.
@thecomputer5515
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Sì:>
Brilliant game. Good instructional game for beginners on how all you need is a single pawn of material to win, trading everything off to the end.
@NowhereMan7
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Nah beginners can trade everything off and still lose easily when up many pawns. Chess is hard
@tw-ec1of
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That's just to basic man
@stratosm3154
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It's indeed instructional but beginners will make blunders with bigger advantages. Hans also had to play a great endgame go win this game
Thank you for that clarification. I think simple and direct engagement with sensationalist content is so productive. I am grateful to those who do it as objectively as you do. I don't comment enough to tell you how much I appreciate your presence in our world.
Hans' knight: I'm not locked in here with you. You're locked in here with me!
Hans uses chess to express something that is deep inside of him…
@MrNallana
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Deep inside huh
@davidcopson5800
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Intestines.
@ruliadultra
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😂
@peterwinters8587
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transistors?
If anyone want more and arguably "better" analysis of this game then check out Fabiano Caruanas C Squared podcast, then you will actually see how insane some of these moves are
@zomakaja
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What episode?
@majdq8
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Yes as Caruana says ... an alien is playing here
Mishra did miss top engine move Nh4 early on that clearly set up Niemann’s winning position later in the game
Abhimanyu played an insane game The game looked like an engine line and im 100% sure that it is. Abhimanyu handled it like a fucking king
The chess speaks for itself, litteraly, he doesnt need to say anything anymore 🤣
Niemann is learning that cheating will follow you throughout your life. Even minor cheating in an inconsequential match will give you a cloud of suspicion for every good match you ever play whether you ever cheat again or not.
@mr.safensound4238
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And a cloud of 'suspension' and even of suspicion as well😉
@napoearth
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@@mr.safensound4238 I'm old. I'm not good at typing on a phone. You should have seen the errors I noticed. Glad to know the internet will always be there to check spelling and add nothing to the conversation 😉
@danielsogge136
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He cheated from age 12 to 16 and then apologies and recruited perhaps the most known cheating chess mentor in the game in Dlugy. Way to change character. How blind can you get?
@jonathan.palfrey
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@@napoearth I'm 68 and I'm not good at typing on a phone, because I rarely try to do it. I use a computer with a good-sized screen and a proper keyboard. I don't know why people struggle with those silly little gadgets. I have an iPhone because it occasionally comes in handy, but I use it as little as possible.
@arildk90
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It sets precedence.
Thank you for the top move(s) percentage bit at the end.
Fantastic game - excellent review and analysis as usual - many thanks.
Big ups to Mishra for putting up this resistance against Alpha Zero
@Pasharamus
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clearly Mishra was using an engine as well, just a worse one, since most of his moves were top engine moves as well as agadmator said. Do you guys even watch the video or just read the title?
I think you meant to say : Hans has Alphazero confirmed
@wicked5999
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Up you know where
This game is completely insane. Trapping your own Knight with a foresight of next 20 moves or so is completely beyond human capability. If this game was played online then that explains 😅
Thank you so much for this analysis. At the top level, chess is a magnificent, beautiful game.
thanks for the straight commentary on a brilliant game from both players.
That endgame was a Masterpiece never seen in a K and N endgame
@AkramSaheb
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2 inaccuracies and 1 mistake in this one
@mmm22chess
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No need to play top move when every move wins… it’s not inaccuracy or mistake if you still winning by -5… winning by -10 or -5 is a mistake that doesn’t matter
@ETBrooD
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@@mmm22chess Niemann's moves (later in the game) cost him the advantage several times and even gave white the advantage once or twice.
@mmm22chess
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@@ETBrooD he doesn’t cheat every move..
It has been a long time since there has been any doubt whether you can't see the forest for the trees.
I wonder what was the post interview for Hans on this game. I suppose something along the lines of "he messed up the opening" to "I don't have to show lines" to "chess speaks for itself''.
@ryanhughes1101
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Exactly.
From this game I see that Mishra will be the greatest chess player of his generation, I hope he continues his growth
@tomatosauceenjoyer
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India is going to have a golden generation.
@user-nw8mp3ou7l
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@@tomatosauceenjoyer he American indian and i think he is affiliated to usa
@absidyabsidy2727
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@@tomatosauceenjoyer he’s American
@azzaamekk5264
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@@tomatosauceenjoyer He is an American and he is also affiliated with US chess federation
@alessbritish228
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There's no "golden" era for India. There won't be any.
Agadmator:- Hans Niemann is AlphaZero CONFIRMED! Magnus:- Hans Niemann is(using)AlphaZero CONFIRMED!!
@ekklesiast
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how do you use AlphaZero? is it open source?
I don't understand why you wouldn't capture the g3 pawn at 6:03. I gave this position to Stockfish and it says it's the top move. My rating is barely 1000 and I was shocked that this wasn't played as I thought it's a no-brainer. Also weird that Antonio didn't even mention this, since the g3 pawn is the reason why the white king is trapped.
@subbedgames6004
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Prob didn't wanna give up material, via knight taking his rook
@fugglesme4186
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Not sure what stockfish you are using or what depth you are running it, but running stockfish 15 at depth of 20 or more the top three moves are Rf4, Rf5 and Nc2. Qxg3 is losing immediately to Nxf1.
@MegaSahil009
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@@fugglesme4186 Exactly my thoughts. Qxg3 seems to be the best move! and if kight to Nxf1, then either king captures knight or knight D2 captures on f1
@Italiafani
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@@fugglesme4186 Stockfish 14+ NNUE, depth 22 (lichess) Top move and line (-0.6): 1. Qxg3 Nxf1 2. Qg8+ Qf8 3. Qxh7 Nxd2 4. Bc2 O-O-O 5. Rd1 Ndf3+ 6. Nxf3 Nxf3+ 7. gxf3 d5 8. Bb3 Qc5+ After running it up until depth 47 (stopped after 11 hours lol) it seems that Qxg3 is only the 2nd best move and gives -0.9 advantage for black. Top move there is Rf5 (-0.8), but apparently after Bxf5, you still go Qxg3.
@Italiafani
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@@subbedgames6004 You get the rook back with Qg8+, though. Seems like a free knight for black after that (Nxd2), but after Bc2 and Rd1, black's knight is trapped. So white actually wins a pawn in this line.
You are a man of integrity!!!!!!!!!! Please never sell out just to get views as YOU are far better than that
Game feeled like a stockfish vs alphazero game
@avg_user-dd2yb
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Both were cheating.
Appreciate your level headed take on this
I'm glad you pointed out that BOTH players played out of their minds. Other analysis has also recently pointed out that Hans' opponents have at times over-performed and under-performed against him. Maybe all this drama has merely served to expose a deep desire for controversy and drama inside the chess fan base.
@volty3454
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Idk about that one, so far they've kept the drama more or less to Twitter
I hope that we can somehow use these tools to monitor LIVE events and stop it from happening again. The future of Chess needs developments to ensure our beloved sport stays honest 🤞🤞
@darealmacpower5702
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Chess is not a sport
@bowlingmaster168
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beloved such exageration
@h1tchman
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@@darealmacpower5702 You should google that and stand corrected my friend.
@outlander234
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So a person isnt allowed to play like an engine?
@uberneanderthal
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as cheating technology advances, security measures will have to become more invasive to counter them. this doesn't just apply to chess, either.