This Golf LEGEND You NEVER Heard of will Transform Your Golf Swing FOREVER

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The Man Second only to TIGER WOODS Surprisingly Became the Key to my Golf Swing. He has this golf drill that may be the best thing to happen to my golf swingf. Today I take another golf lesson from my golf coach to go over golf tips and drills to help me with my golf swing. We go over my swing path, the side bend, and the follow through in the golf swing. I also have a breakthrough moment when I understand how to actually hit down on my irons the right way, and what it actually means.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
01:13 Palmer Flexion vs Supination
04:01 Backswing and Shoulder Turn
05:51 Swing Analysis Part 1
07:45 Feeling a NEW TEMPO for the Golf Swing
11:28 Swing Analysis Part 2
14:03 How your core should work in your backswing
16:43 Ground Reaction Force
19:52 Greg Norman Drill
23:25 Working on the Long Irons + Tee Drill
27:23 Look back so far with my journey with Dana
27:57 Swing Analysis Part 3
36:30 How to actually hit down on your clubs the right way
38:49 Door Jamb Drill
41:29 Looking at Tiger Wood's Swing
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  • @calumdj
    @calumdj5 ай бұрын

    this coach is so good

  • @ninobiancarelli3549

    @ninobiancarelli3549

    5 ай бұрын

    agreed bro

  • @damienwilkins3274
    @damienwilkins32745 ай бұрын

    Priceless instruction! I also appreciate how you’re not afraid to ask whatever you need to know. “What’s a block?” “What causes a divot?” Dana clearly likes the lesson tee and your attitude as well as your skill. More power to you! It helps that a lot of these tendencies are mine and we no doubt share them with thousands of players. Golf is stupid and great.

  • @sonicbooommm
    @sonicbooommm5 ай бұрын

    It’s so refreshing to hear a golf instructor/teacher not talk in paragraphs! Straight to the point and explains exactly what to do and WHY we have to do it. Great videos 👊🏼

  • @EddieAcosta_85
    @EddieAcosta_855 ай бұрын

    My swing has improved with Dana’s lessons! I can relate with every single thing he’s teaching you! Keep it coming 🏌🏻💪🏻

  • @ctrlrsf

    @ctrlrsf

    24 күн бұрын

    Flushed 9 and 8 irons today because I took all his lessons to the course. Wish I would have finished the video before I went, I was avoiding my long irons and wondering how I should hit my 5 wood. Dana is the man!!

  • @5borogolfco
    @5borogolfco5 ай бұрын

    your content is so incredibly helpful. all these coaches are amazing!

  • @jaminga123
    @jaminga1235 ай бұрын

    Post more of you playing. Like 9 holes etc. But this time use a push cart so u focus on every shot. Would be interesting to see results

  • @danutopgolfer
    @danutopgolfer5 ай бұрын

    Whatever you do , stick with Dana , other coaches are giving sound bite info , he is the real deal , so knowledgeable and patient, he sticks with proven data and movement and matches it to the golfers ability and learning style .

  • @JeromeRufin

    @JeromeRufin

    5 ай бұрын

    Haha don’t worry dana and I are sticking together long term until I get to scratch

  • @jameslynch4042

    @jameslynch4042

    5 ай бұрын

    He's got a million swing thoughts going on.

  • @gator968

    @gator968

    5 ай бұрын

    @@jameslynch4042it’s not that much. It’s a few key things he is being asked to work on

  • @vgolf10

    @vgolf10

    5 ай бұрын

    seriously, do stick with Dana. after i’ve taken so many lessons through out the years. Golftec, online, driving range instructors, academy instructors, and with Dana. Just stick with Dana. Other instructors can get you to hit the ball better, but they won’t impart with you the knowledge of the swing and biomechanics the way Dana does. and that will stick with you. Also Dana’s the only instructor who will have me hit the best ball striking of my life on the spot on the lesson every time.

  • @jameslynch4042

    @jameslynch4042

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@vgolf10 - If you're a single digit handicap & trying to get to that next level then I can understand this type of lesson. He's a 20 plus handicap with a beautiful swing but no consistency. How about making a some small changes to that instead of trying to get the perfect hand, wrist, arm, shoulder, etc. position. He can't make a swing without a hundred thoughts. My opinion is not worth much but he wants comments from his followers.

  • @Nick_TE
    @Nick_TE5 ай бұрын

    I was at the range the other day and had been struggling with misses high right and short, like 30 yards short... Felt like I couldn't close the face and was swinging way to the left; much more than I usually do. In retrospect I was just doing a horizontal turn with basically no side bend. Eventually worked into feeling exactly what was talked about here where I was getting that side bend and getting more vertical through impact and follow through. Immediately started hitting draws and straight shots with the distance I was used to. Nice to watch this and make sense of that feeling and what's supposed to be happening.

  • @michaeldavid7368
    @michaeldavid73685 ай бұрын

    Dana is a gem! He’s worth every penny especially that you figured the key steps of unlocking your swing. Will save you years of pain trying to figure it out on your own. That guy is very patient with all of your questions lol (I do love all of those questions you have because I had the same 😂)

  • @gator968
    @gator9685 ай бұрын

    I would 100% stick with Dana. This guys teaching skills are so good. He Explains things so well with the tech of it, but dumbing it down to get a great understanding of why things happen. Dana and Sean foley are the 2 coaches I try to follow and listen to on every pod, KZread vid etc that I can

  • @vgolf10

    @vgolf10

    5 ай бұрын

    totally! may i give you one more, he’s not very well known in the US but he’s up there with Dana and Sean in terms of knowledge. Scott Cowx.

  • @davidspecht6508
    @davidspecht65085 ай бұрын

    Dang, that lesson is gold.

  • @dezerteagle6412
    @dezerteagle64125 ай бұрын

    Don’t let yourself get in the way of yourself. Be willing to ignore your own mental questions and focus on simple instructions your coach is giving you and it will all come easier and make playing a whole lot more enjoyable. You remind me of myself not that long ago

  • @nicholasthorstensen6213
    @nicholasthorstensen62135 ай бұрын

    This guy seems to be great at giving you info when needed and telling you when to get you to stop overthinking

  • @felixromanjr6242
    @felixromanjr62425 ай бұрын

    Love this content. Extremely informative and your questions I feel I would have asked

  • @grahammay8512
    @grahammay85125 ай бұрын

    Great content Jerome thanks for taking the time

  • @kj475
    @kj4755 ай бұрын

    This is good stuff. I like how you're exhibiting the common tendency to want to jump ahead, believing you already have what you learned and then that belief is proven completely false. A lesson for all of us.

  • @psyWAR1988
    @psyWAR19885 ай бұрын

    Yea Dana is unbelievably correct in his lesson here. I "taught" this to myself and it changed my game. The idea of shifting pressures and shifting to be the motor of the swing allows so much more quietness in hands, etc, and feels way more athletic. He has you on a phenomenal path here. Keep it up.

  • @Par2Pixel
    @Par2Pixel5 ай бұрын

    Its beena minute since Ive been able to watch but looks like your progressing right along, keep up the great work

  • @JeromeRufin

    @JeromeRufin

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @elwynransom4076
    @elwynransom40765 ай бұрын

    I do not understand how you only have 56k subscribers. I watch a LOT of youtube golf and you find the best coaches. I've learned more from your channel than from Grant, Rick, and Peter combined. Only channel that comes close is Maude but he tends to be more focused on senior golfers. This stuff is perfect for younger and more athletic players. Keep up the great work.

  • @JeromeRufin

    @JeromeRufin

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks! 2024 is the year for S2, going to grind hard in my game and also grind hard on KZread so hopefully we can grow the S2 community to even more people!

  • @joshuahanson8543
    @joshuahanson85435 ай бұрын

    This is the specific lesson I’ve needed my whole golf life! 🤙

  • @swardmusic

    @swardmusic

    5 ай бұрын

    no, its what our youtuber needed.

  • @JeromeRufin

    @JeromeRufin

    5 ай бұрын

    This is a channel for the people, not just for me :)

  • @evenwintereiklid2169
    @evenwintereiklid21695 ай бұрын

    Awesome video! Your coach is great

  • @heavenawaits7663
    @heavenawaits76635 ай бұрын

    This is your best video!!! Good job and the pro is giving you the goods! I’m watching buddy!!

  • @NickOnPar
    @NickOnPar5 ай бұрын

    Love your vids man. It seems like Dana’s teaching and theory is more conducive to a push draw swing, it’s refreshing compared to many other coaches these days pushing everyone to spin open, spin the hips, open the chest all to hit a small pull cut

  • @rogernewton7831
    @rogernewton78315 ай бұрын

    Like I said before, this coach is one the best on the planet if not the best I’ve seen. Top dog. I would also ask questions that are relevant and stop all the vague nervousness stuff for quicker results.

  • @kevinfan8477
    @kevinfan84775 ай бұрын

    my guy has one of the best coaches in the world giving him lessons every week but still tries to tweak his own swing lol just do what Dana tells you and trust the process!

  • @brianmorgan7751
    @brianmorgan77515 ай бұрын

    Great lesson! Now go slow and stick with the drills and feels in order. Slow and steady will get you there. You are very smart and work hard. Thank you for allowing us to get a view into what world class lessons look like. We are all rooting for you! I like this coach, stick to it!

  • @jko8888
    @jko88885 ай бұрын

    Man... aside from you being way more athletic, I feel like I'm going through the same problems as you, Jerome. I worry so much about making certain changes, and thinking "what if this happens, oh no". Love how you've stuck with Dana and we're getting weekly (or more) lessons. This is amazing. I am really not interested in how some channels jump from coach to coach. Love seeing you work with him, and love seeing your progression/ah-ha moments.

  • @andrewmissing4143
    @andrewmissing41435 ай бұрын

    All great training videos with some really useful tips!!! And you progress is coming along nicely!!! When are you going to play a round of golf, so we can see how much you have progressed, it seems nothing but training videos at the minute!!! Keep up the great work 👍

  • @at1108
    @at11085 ай бұрын

    Dana is probably the best golf coach on the planet!

  • @codynelson9220
    @codynelson92205 ай бұрын

    These are awesome! Stick with Dana!

  • @LeeTrevinoFans
    @LeeTrevinoFans4 ай бұрын

    Greg Norman....probably the greatest Finnish/Austrailian golfer ever LOL.

  • @bassmasta9117
    @bassmasta91175 ай бұрын

    Why is golf so addicting!

  • @glenj.taylor2938

    @glenj.taylor2938

    5 ай бұрын

    I believe Moe Norman put it best: "Golf is Happiness." It also has to do with our genetic predisposition of instant gratification and the addictive release of ensorfins when we hit it well. So yeah... Golf IS Happiness. 😂

  • @tonyfrostad2730
    @tonyfrostad27305 ай бұрын

    Scotty Sheffler feet move that way also!

  • @davidlee6477
    @davidlee64775 ай бұрын

    great lesson! In the last video, Dana emphasized that you should flight the ball low by swinging more left. In this one, with the Greg Norman drill he wants you to have a high launch by swinging it more right. So which of the two is he wanting you to do? Does it change with wedge vs low iron then?

  • @scottdigregorio4952
    @scottdigregorio49525 ай бұрын

    I like this guy!

  • @msendowski
    @msendowski5 ай бұрын

    Can you do the drill with the driver. Fantastic info. Kudos to you.

  • @Kirby-un9sp
    @Kirby-un9sp5 ай бұрын

    New subscriber here. Must be tough traveling from SD to Long Beach for these lessons. Do you plan on doing a vlog where you play El Dorado or some other course in the LA/Orange County area?

  • @JeromeRufin

    @JeromeRufin

    5 ай бұрын

    I plan to travel and play everywhere including in the LA area :)

  • @James-if4zw
    @James-if4zw5 ай бұрын

    Mate you have to check out Gary Edwin Golf RSS .

  • @tommy4490
    @tommy44905 ай бұрын

    Dana is so good to tell him stay in his lane. Really awesome

  • @JeromeRufin

    @JeromeRufin

    5 ай бұрын

    Dana has to put me in check most of the time haha.

  • @tommy4490

    @tommy4490

    5 ай бұрын

    @@JeromeRufin he is so good he just wants you not thinking of a million things. Nice swing!

  • @hiddenbunny7205
    @hiddenbunny72055 ай бұрын

    Will Jerome book a fitting session with Ian? we need that to happen...

  • @benhikingoutdoors1632
    @benhikingoutdoors16325 ай бұрын

    You should look into the step drills by Dr. Kwon--- I think they will really help with the pressure shifting he was talking about.

  • @jtee4247
    @jtee42475 ай бұрын

    I started watching you from the beginning because you were going to all these great coaches and I could pick out what I was missing. I saw all your videos and this is the coach you should stick to. Dana is an all-around great coach, using too many coaches can screw you up.

  • @JeromeRufin

    @JeromeRufin

    5 ай бұрын

    Yup he’s my long term full swing coach!

  • @nickhunter2784
    @nickhunter27845 ай бұрын

    I still dont know what your hands have to do in that lesson ? Did they close automatically as Dana said?

  • @mrdre8459
    @mrdre84595 ай бұрын

    💯🔥

  • @kd6507
    @kd65075 ай бұрын

    You pull the handle up but the angle between your arm and club shaft gets larger. Youre rapidly extending the radius from your shoulder to the club head. Thats how you pull up but still hit down. Your throwing/slinging/kicking the club head down.

  • @jamestaylor6352
    @jamestaylor63525 ай бұрын

    How often do you see Dana for lessons?

  • @gordonholmes3500
    @gordonholmes35005 ай бұрын

    Hi Dana. I am not trying to be smart, but when you said the golf club bottoms out on the shoulder, is that specific to what you want Jerome to do, and because of his mechanics? My thoughts through reading and videos, are the sternum is where the club bottoms out, unless it's a driver. Again, I hope I don't come accross as smart, this is always what is difficult about teaching/learning trying to understand what is being said. Thanks in anticipation.

  • @j.t.daulton4635

    @j.t.daulton4635

    5 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @jorgeluisurbina9801
    @jorgeluisurbina98015 ай бұрын

    Dude! The Great White Shark drill didn't revolutionize your swing because after he showed it to you, you still fell back into that Academic Rain man question mode you go through with every coach you have had. I am starting to notice a pattern with your learning. REGARDLESS, you are doing great and keep going!

  • @pigpigpiggies3527
    @pigpigpiggies35275 ай бұрын

    Would Dana do a lesson discount for your subscriber?

  • @ivwshane
    @ivwshane5 ай бұрын

    Jerome, can you speak to the cost of how much a lesson would be with these caliber of coaches? And just to clarify, I mean, if I were to go to this coach, how much would he charge me. Thanks

  • @sucalaminka

    @sucalaminka

    5 ай бұрын

    500

  • @DubheJames
    @DubheJames5 ай бұрын

    The one thing I need to ask. You should do a edit of all the time you say this. It's certainly not once.

  • @naj959
    @naj9595 ай бұрын

    You could tell on 18 he was so over it. Been there 😅

  • @Bech285
    @Bech2855 ай бұрын

    Title says: This Golf Legend you never heard of... and shows a picture of Greg Norman and Tiger Woods? I'm guessing you're new to golf? I've only been playing 3 years and I've heard of both, like most golfers :D

  • @92SAITO92
    @92SAITO925 ай бұрын

    Loving these lessons but can you give some insight on why you're obsessed with cupping your wrist? All of your coaches so far have recommended against it, yet you still try to incorporate it into your swing. Are you chasing some sort of performance benefit or do you think it looks cool?

  • @jordan3305

    @jordan3305

    5 ай бұрын

    Hs grip is strong, so it is more cupped. It works for his string.

  • @billtwolabbs3959
    @billtwolabbs39592 ай бұрын

    point of confusion... Norman didn't take a divot?

  • @rcadelina
    @rcadelina5 ай бұрын

    😮

  • @JeromeRufin

    @JeromeRufin

    5 ай бұрын

    🫣

  • @mijnesretep
    @mijnesretep4 ай бұрын

    What hits home for me is the wrist obsession, where I got stuck for a while. Setting the right wrists can be a valuable drill, and it can improve contact, but it's sold as a one-trick solution, youtube clickbait. Better to concentrate on big muscles, big width, and big turn, minimizing wrist cock, and just pushing the hands forward at impact, instead of deceiving yourself into thinking that you can improve impact by controlling wrist position at impact, like the Ben Hogan drawing. Work on the big things and forget the little ones.

  • @samuelchoisamchoi714
    @samuelchoisamchoi7145 ай бұрын

    For the algo!

  • @user-yc8su7ec6e
    @user-yc8su7ec6e5 ай бұрын

    Dude - It takes real talent to score so badly with all the best of coaches over the last 8mths, built like a god and have youth, a sportsman A-type personality and flexiblity! When guys I know try what you are trying I encourage them to go out again but this time with a putter, SW, 8i and 5i. They almost always score better. Sometimes that you have to see what you are doing by simplifying your options. e.g. Putter from up to 10yds from the green would have got almost every one of your poor chips closer. Golf is about trust and trust is about good coaches but also about time and digging out of the dirt - too many cooks and not enough prep.

  • @yorfriend83
    @yorfriend835 ай бұрын

    It would be amazing if the shot tracer kicked in on the back half of flight. Calling all coders

  • @JeromeRufin

    @JeromeRufin

    5 ай бұрын

    I’m actually coding a shot tracer app right now and going to give it out for free on mobile in the near future :) stay tuned!

  • @FGrecoJR
    @FGrecoJR3 ай бұрын

    Bro we have heard of Greg Norman 😂

  • @vektacular
    @vektacular5 ай бұрын

    Feel like you’re throwing the club with your right arm from the top of the backswing underhanded and out to the right.

  • @vektacular

    @vektacular

    5 ай бұрын

    @@bored_af_troll Tiger would say it the way I say it….Ernie els would say it the way you say it….Ive t tried it both ways, your way first, my way last.

  • @halwal24
    @halwal245 ай бұрын

    What’s Dana’s last name and does he have videos on KZread?

  • @swish1onu
    @swish1onu5 ай бұрын

    Great lesson today... obviously you dont have the time to read all comments... but months ago... i said "snap, crack, and pop" ... as you begin the down swing, you SNAP the left leg straight as you CRACK the club into the ball and watch it POP into the air..

  • @timmyotoole6063

    @timmyotoole6063

    5 ай бұрын

    weird

  • @swish1onu

    @swish1onu

    5 ай бұрын

    @timmyotoole6063 ... hahaha.. i guess it's a bit weird... but if you've watched this lesson, it's just a swing thought to help with timing.. hip rotation at its most basic is the flexing and bending of the knees.. during rotation when you straighten or "snap" the left leg.. it helps ROTATE your hips open... when you snap that left leg straight during the down swing it INCREASES the speed of the club head "down" into the ball (increases angular momentum). Your arms and hands play a less "active" role in the speed of the club head.. the majority of club head speed is the natural whipping of the club resulting from us naturally "pulling" in the opposite directing the club wants to go.. anyway.. for me.. understanding the physics of the motion helped me understand why my legs were so important in the downswing.. snap, crack, pop... (the cereal) just so happens to be my swing thought so i dont think about my hands... at those speeds.. your hands become passive... you shouldnt have a death grip of them.. this coach is the best so far.. hands down better than all the others

  • @MarkLamprecht
    @MarkLamprecht5 ай бұрын

    Great lesson. But you have to stop saying “like” so much. 😂

  • @ScreenFeenin
    @ScreenFeenin4 ай бұрын

    I must be old if y’all don’t know who Greg Norman is.

  • @faithramos3251

    @faithramos3251

    3 ай бұрын

    Ikr 😅 he said the golfer u never heard of I'm thinking what who hasn't heard of The Shark haha

  • @feisum
    @feisum5 ай бұрын

    Dana and Mike have the same swing analogy, a lot of the info they taught are the same. While Dana has a lot patient which suits u better.

  • @JeromeRufin

    @JeromeRufin

    5 ай бұрын

    I believe every coach is right in some sense or another, throughout my journey it’s mainly to find the coach that fits your personality the best which is different for everyone!

  • @cnewton6527
    @cnewton65275 ай бұрын

    ….. it’s a drill so you gotta do more than one. 😂

  • @JeromeRufin

    @JeromeRufin

    5 ай бұрын

    Classic me jumping ahead lol. I got to stop doing that haha

  • @Seektruth-59
    @Seektruth-595 ай бұрын

    Think you are overthinking the mechanics and that can mess you up since different mechanics can be right for slightly different swing types and since you are trying to build a swing and listening to too many mechanics, you will at some point need to just decide on something that works well and go with it. Seems to me you are swinging worse than 6 months ago where you were more natural and smooth, now quirky and indecisive.

  • @jackrutherford-1
    @jackrutherford-15 ай бұрын

    You have the full swing of a low to mid single digit handicap player. Play more golf! I will caddy for you.

  • @MrSoccerplayer55
    @MrSoccerplayer553 ай бұрын

    I get it coach is good. But this whole super tweaking every simgle part of the body is nuts. The goal is to focus on 1 or 2 things and executing them properly so the rest of the body can naturally do the rest. Imagine how many thoughts are going through this brothas head from weight shiting to belly button tightening to wrist neutralization nah that's bot how golf works. Impossible

  • @timmyotoole6063
    @timmyotoole60635 ай бұрын

    why are you always trying to add stuff that your coach isn't teaching you. so strange

  • @jorgeluisurbina9801

    @jorgeluisurbina9801

    5 ай бұрын

    @timmyotoole6063 AGREED! He keeps telling Dana, "Well, I hit fine here, but not on the course." I am not Jerome, but I feel mentally he is at the point of like. "Wait, I should be hitting badass shots and I am not. What is wrong? WTF." He is acting like his remote on his 75" screen tv doesn't work.

  • @jayl8920
    @jayl89205 ай бұрын

    Imma be real with you. This guy is basically trying to teach you a push-draw swing. I think this is incorrect for you. I’ve seen your previous videos and your NATURAL tendency is to rotate your body fast, along with your high flexibility in your torso. Instead of trying to fight your natural tendencies, you should be utilizing your athletic rotation to START the ball left and fade it back in. You just have to dial in your wrist position at impact (which is why I think you were trying to bring it up). If you were my student I’d teach you how to close the clubhead a little at impact (by developing your wrist angles) and utilize your natural talent of body rotation to have you exit left through the ball.

  • @WigganNuG

    @WigganNuG

    5 ай бұрын

    "This Guy" I think knows what he'd doing my dude. Probably more than you and he's actually THERE in person analyzing every step. Unless you're a more highly rated golf coach than Dana is. I've seen this dude on the golf channel a BUNCH of times. How many times have you been? I'm just keeping it real man ;)

  • @jayl8920

    @jayl8920

    5 ай бұрын

    @@WigganNuG that's the kind of enabling BS that leads to less-than-optimal results when working with a coach. I'm fully aware of who he is, he works with mostly junior golfers who are still developing and growing into their bodies. Jerome is a fully grown man with fully-formed habits, and adults in general require a different approach to maximizing their potential. I'm not saying I'm a better coach than he is - I'm not saying I'm worse. But I have overwhelming personal evidence that trying to teach a latecomer a different swing is VASTLY inferior than working with what they've got and optimizing their innate strengths.

  • @chunbach3692

    @chunbach3692

    5 ай бұрын

    @Jaybird - zip it

  • @esteban246

    @esteban246

    5 ай бұрын

    Most pro golfers learned to draw before they started hitting fades. Beginners including Jerome tend to swing out to in which will naturally gravitate towards a slice unless they learn to neutralize it, that's why you teach beginners the baby draw because it counters the beginners natural, bad tendencies.

  • @jayl8920

    @jayl8920

    5 ай бұрын

    @@esteban246pros that started playing as a child learned to hit draws because their undeveloped upper bodies are much weaker than their lower bodies. They need to use their legs to generate power and use the ground to drive up and into their shot. In contrast Jerome is fully developed, and like i said in my other post, as an adult his strength and natural tendency is using his powerful rotation to swing the club. I see this ALL THE TIME with athletic adults, and trying to fight that tendency is detrimental to their development. Also, he doesnt have an over the top problem, he has an open face at impact problem which can be fixed by learning to stabilize the wrist angle and getting into the slot while still allowing him to rotate hard. Instead, all these coaches are trying to fix him by teaching him a push-draw, stalling out his natural rotation and causing an awkward follow-through. It’ll get the job done eventually, but I’m saying it’s not optimal and won’t allow him to fully utilize his innate strengths.

  • @edsimps123
    @edsimps1235 ай бұрын

    Just remember Tiger Woods will always be the second best golfer in the world because he'll never touch Jack Nicklaus, Greg Norman doesn't come in a top five

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