Years ago when I was a tech for Mercedes Benz in my hometown, a customer from a Dodge dealership came to us and asked us to tear down the engine in his viper and rebuild it for him, and he wasn't interested in how much it would cost him, so we did it. there was a considerable amount of damage in the engine, mainly the crankshaft bearings, we did some tests and found out that the engine had well over the .030" clearance that would keep the engine safe from problems of excessive clearance. the engine had less than 20,000 miles and it is likely that the engine had been built from Factory with the Maximum allowable clearance, so that the engine would be putting out lots of power, unhindered by tolerance that were too close. I knew that this was a tactic that many race crews used to make their engine perform well on the track, but those engines were always rebuilt after each race. But this is what Dodge did with factory engines! and the limit on the Viper power train warranty was 25,000 miles! they knew the engines wouldn't last and tried to cover their arses, and although this guy's viper was still under warranty, they accused him of excessive abuse of the engine and refused to honor the warranty, but this guy wasn't gonna have it. he told us to make every change necessary and not to spare any cost nor should we try and make any deals for him, he said he was going to sue Dodge for the repairs and make them pay for the bill. So we made that viper engine tight and within spec of .010" clearance on the mains and the various clearances of the standard 340 v-8 and the viper v-10 is just a copy of the 340 with two extra cylinders added to the rear of the block. we put it back together so well, in fact that the guy came back years later and said he had never had as reliable an engine from Dodge in his life, he had well over 115,000 miles of the engine and it was still going strong. it wasn't as powerful as it was before but he said that it was alright anyways because he had a good engine. He sued Dodge, and won, and the tab was picked up by Dodge, and that was during the years when Dodge/Chrysler was being dragged into court kicking and screaming for not honoring their warranties like they were bound to by law. one of the many reason why Dodge Chrysler was sold to FIAT to stop them from gong Bankrupt again! My advice to anyone is to stay away from Chrysler products entirely, the company has had so many times been such a poorly operated and terrible customer service driven corporation that it just doesn't make any sense to trust them. I could fill you with stories I have come across as an auto tech about Chrysler and how they operate that I would NEVER buy any Chrysler product, ever. The biggest problem is that they make nice looking vehicles, and that lures far too many people in to buy their junk. Hopefully Fist can turn them around but if Mercedes Benz couldn't do it when they owned them, I doubt Fiat can do it either.

@-ouv

3 ай бұрын

Only issue I've had is with the hemi, and the common lifter issue but I don't mind doing the work myself which I have. I'll always stick with their products. I run my stuff hard and I love the 5.7. Hearing all these stories though about the viper engine, no thanks

@Jbainbridge5

3 ай бұрын

.030" is allowable? I build race engines that are .010 max... usually .003-.005 is allowable. That's nuts.

@233kosta

2 ай бұрын

Sounds to me like the inginerds did their part, but then management got involved to help uhh... "fix" things. For the marketing department, you see! Because middle managers with MBAs _always_ know better...

@mojoblues66

2 ай бұрын

What differences in power are we talking about?

@233kosta

2 ай бұрын

@@mojoblues66 I wouldn't be surprised if it's as much as 10% or more. Parasitic loads are a huge thing in engines. That's basically where all your engine braking comes from. That and a little bit of entropy in the compression cycle, but that's negligible compared to the parasitic loads. I'm sure you've heard about thermal efficiency of combusion engines, and that the Otto cycle is 15% while the Diesel cycle is about 45%. That's foe the thermal cycle only though. In other words, it's all the energy you could ever possibly get out of the fuel you put in. Then come the parasitic loads. Oil pump, water pump, valve springs, HP fuel pump (if present), all the friction from the sliding contact inside the cylinders, plus all the auxiliaries - alternator, AC compressor, power steering pump... hell, even the bearing grease inside the idler pulley's bearing. These things all add up to sap a bunch more power out of your engine. Then there's a 10% loss from the drivetrain components on top of that (assuming a manual gearbox, more if it's a slushbox)... By the time you get to the wheels, you're looking at closer to 10% from the Otto cycle, 30% from the Diesel cycle. If you can do something about those parasitic loads (such as loosening up all the bearings), you'll get some measurable benefit. Probably even measurable by your average arse dyno.

Thank you Eric's mom and dad. First for making him and raising him to be a fine upstanding citizen and for going to pickup the Viper engine for this week's video.

@kristensorensen2219

Жыл бұрын

I think this is a run on sentencing effort🤔🤷

@Cartier_specialist

Жыл бұрын

@@kristensorensen2219 Possibly.

@imnotthatcreative6894

Жыл бұрын

Really weird comment

@Jakiirr

Жыл бұрын

Legendary comment

@tommykane4621

Жыл бұрын

I like the zoo....

"re-gapped" spark plug! Priceless!

Piston nuggets, bearing foil, and multi-cylinder connecting rods! Eight cylinders seem pretty good looking; maybe someone will want a Viper V-8?? Honestly, I'm impressed this engine didn't completely grenade with tennis ball size exit holes in the block. Thank you for sharing; it was interesting to see how this engine is assembled.

I can't even imagine the frightful noise this thing would have produced in its final moments.

@therealstubot

Жыл бұрын

I dunno. A viper engine is making quite a bit of noise at 7000 rpm. I'll bet there was a sickening jolt though. Maybe even a locked up drive train at 100+mph, which would have been exciting. At the fast end of a 1/4 mile strip, anything can turn your day bad. I saw a mustang that was going 145mph through the line, when the car started going sideways. The driver, an NMRA regular, was test and tuning, when his radiator overflow hose somehow got routed to within the track of the passenger side rear tire. This was missed at tech inspection. At the fast end of the track, the catch can burped out probably a teaspoon of water that got on the slick, and the tire lost traction. He was just lifting off the throttle when it happened, or he most certainly would have lost control of the car and ended up in the opposite wall.

@krisholt

Жыл бұрын

I once was a passanger in my wifes car, a 2l Peugeot doing 130km/h on the freeway when a exhaust valve broke and made the engine internals look much like this one. The biggest suprise was the lack of big bangs, only a sudden absense of power.

@kenibnanak5554

Жыл бұрын

I once saw a Ford Pinto piston blow through the engine block and hood at 70MPH. It made a terrible BAM

@therealstubot

Жыл бұрын

@@kenibnanak5554 At the drag strip, these kind of failures are pretty common, although the most common would be broken axles, driveshafts, u-joints. Smoked clutches are pretty common as well. A dramatic failure I saw once was when a harmonic balancer broke the front of the crankshaft off, hit the ground at 8000 rpm, bounced back up through the hood, and completely over the spectator stands ( which were empty ) and landed outside the fence of the track.

@shanemarcotte2062

Жыл бұрын

@@therealstubot i call bull shit!

Gone from V10 to V8 in the blink of an eye 👀

@colchronic

Жыл бұрын

More like a v0 theres no way that ran

@mtut

Жыл бұрын

@@colchronic The owner told Eric it still did....

@colchronic

Жыл бұрын

@@mtut yeah i wrote that before that part. Anyways like eric, i find that hard to believe 🤣

@LimitPro1

Жыл бұрын

@@colchronic hard to believe indeed

@enjoyingend1939

Жыл бұрын

@@colchronic i've known about v8s that ran with 2 cylinders having 0 compression for some time so it's not unlikely it could be still running but it's definitely not going to be running good Edit: upon completion of watching the video i have revised my opinion on this engine... it definitely did not run

After watching a few of your engine teardowns, I'm going to start checking my oil more regularly!

Eric you are really good at what you do sir. Every time I watch the breakdown of a engine with you I know in my heart you are the guy that belongs in this type of business and at this time we also want to thank your Mom and Dad for doing a super job raising you. God bless.

It's pretty incredible to think about the amount of energy that was released when it failed to create that kind of carnage.

@kristensorensen2219

Жыл бұрын

This is something akin to amusing sentence structure?!👍🤔🤣

@wbass243

Жыл бұрын

On the 5th day of Christmas "I Do Cars" sent to me....5 spun bear- rings 4 stickey carbs 3 bent rods 2 cracked blocks ...and a VIPER with a Tree Leaf !!!!!!

@jeteater1

Жыл бұрын

@@dav1dsm1th This is what I was thinking... Can you imagine the sound as it happened?

@Backroad_Junkie

Жыл бұрын

@@dav1dsm1th You'd think that someone would have a dashcam or a GoPro running that could catch the... interesting metal on metal internal conflicts...

@rushthezeppelin

Жыл бұрын

I would pay money to have witnessed that thing grenading

Piston Nuggets and Special Sauce! As a retired mechanical engineer, I truly enjoy the diagnosis, failure analysis and possible root cause failure points. I enjoy your running commentary on disassembly procedure. You are fun to listen to and a great instructor. I have learned much from your videos. This channel rocks!

@grizzlygrizzle

Жыл бұрын

It would be interesting to clean up the internal debris and arrange it in as-close-to original positions as possible, as they do with some crashed-airplane reconstructions. He did some of it with the exploded rod, but I would like to have seen the pieces of the piston laid out too. A bit of a jigsaw puzzle. -- Also, I think in tear downs like this, it would be good to have a little slab made of 2x4s, to slip onto the base of the engine stand for the moments of last-bolt removal, when a part is likely to fall onto the base or the floor. Just something to soften the initial impact. A couple of short 2x4s could also have supported the intake manifold when he was trying to sort out the last electrical connections.

@KECOG

5 ай бұрын

@@grizzlygrizzle I like your comment. It brought to mind that wooden pallets like the ones shippers use. Cheap, reusable, not hard to store.

@gooseknack

2 ай бұрын

I agree.. Eric makes the videos worth watching with his expressions of surprise and shock at what he finds.

Great camera work and video editing. Fun to watch you and learn. Dry humor and double-entendres make it even more fun. Thanks for all you do.

If he's having that much trouble with the intake manifold with the engine out of the car, then having to take it off in the car would be a nightmare.

What we really need is an engine with all kinds of carnage that comes complete with video of either the noise it was making before, or the noises it made *when* she blew.

@carlhokanson9160

Жыл бұрын

Like a real video of last few minutes of when it was last run in stereo.

@tommykane4621

Жыл бұрын

Maybe a cool b/s, to possibly Include. 5w's who,wut,wen,where how?..heh.

@LongBoy.0

Жыл бұрын

I'd love to see a teardown of that runaway diesel that's been going around on YT/social media, the one from some car show where you can see the block literally glowing from the wheel wells. found it - this one kzread.info5CBKDP6BqYU

At Christmas time we can all agree on one thing, red locking tab chrysler connectors should be outlawed

@chungusamongus519

Жыл бұрын

F I A T

@ToAstYNaChO

Жыл бұрын

@@chungusamongus519 no?

@09corvettezr1

Жыл бұрын

Locking tabs on electrical connectors are hardly just a Chrysler phenomenon, and I personally don’t understand the hate for those specific connectors considering how easily they come apart relative to other types of locking connectors.

@BigRedtheGinger

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Cummins uses them too on some of their engines. I deal with a lot of B/ISB/QSB6.7 engines, and they're always on the EGR and valve cover, and a few other things. They really suck.

@aidanbrooks771

Жыл бұрын

I drive a 2010 Pt and usually I just unscrew or remove whichever sensor rather than messing with those locking clips, trying to undo those things is like trying to separate two pieces of tissue paper that are superglued together without ripping either one

I've replaced most of my "burn time" with your channel's content to slowly make myself more confident around engines as I slowly work towards my first swap. World class content :)

@matthewhopkins7042

Жыл бұрын

That sounds suspiciously like something a chicken would say! >_>

@3OBTPA

Жыл бұрын

🐔

That exhaust manifold is a work of art ❤

@danmartinez9497

9 ай бұрын

And to cover it with that heat shield 😢

That block cleaned up would honestly make a pretty good coffee table, You could probably sell it for a pretty penny too.

@archieharrison9433

Жыл бұрын

Top gear did. I bet he could sell it for some pretty good money. Strange but true.

@Rafegaret

Жыл бұрын

I'd buy it

@toobalicious

Жыл бұрын

I’d buy it too, but the wife would not let me put it in the family or living rooms.

@Komeuppance

Жыл бұрын

@@toobalicious The bedroom it is then!

@jaykellett2327

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking it would make a "one of a kind", expensive boat anchor.

Merry Christmas Eric. I'm not a mechanic or a car guy but I'm glad I found your channel. Love your content and you have made me think about how I'm taking care of my car.

First-time watcher of your channel. I did a bunch of wrench work when I was in high school, 1961-65, on mostly Chevrolet engines and I really enjoyed your comments and humor as you went through this teardown. I was amazed at the size of the viper engine. You are informative and fun to listen to. I have subscribed and will watch again. Thanks.

1997 Dodge Ram 2500 with V10. I was driving down I-35 going South. This truck never gave a single problem. Pulling an empty 16 ft trailer and was going downhill. A quick rattle and boom. It was still running as I pulled over. My wife came down in my 1991 chevy suburban. Trailer on the chevy I started and drove the ram onto it. The keepers on one intake valve had stripped off the locking lands so it ate a valve. I started it and drove it off the trailer. 4 pistons were destroyed. One head had a valve shoved through it. Everything was too damaged to repair. Had 167,000 miles on it.

That engine was like a crime scene.

@sierrachief117

Жыл бұрын

It was a bloody murder

I find it amazing that an engine that is so clean on top has fatal sludge in the oil pan.

@TheBeingReal

Жыл бұрын

Maybe the oil never made it to the top. lol

@polarys425

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if given the low miles, the oil "expired" by time rather than mileage. Maybe thickened/sludged in the pan. Improper oil flow, a spirited drive, kaboom.

@wyattsyverson8603

Жыл бұрын

@@polarys425my thoughts exactly

@MrDrmorbid

Жыл бұрын

The sludge at the bottom end is typical of oil just left sitting for years. From the way the engine looks, it's just likely condensation and such.

@davidpowell3347

Жыл бұрын

@@MrDrmorbid Also the sludge doesn't appear to be stuck to the metal,if that were normal unchanged oil sludge I would think it would stick,probably formed after the engine sat with antifreeze water down in the oil.

I bet that the former owner of this engine must’ve been horrified about the amount of damage in that engine.

Holy shit, I've seen you tear down a lot of engines, but this one takes the cake, and I think the person who was driving this when it happened knew how extensive the damage could be, this much damage makes a lot of heart stopping noise, it was very generous of you to say what you did, but like you said you pulled the trigger on it and this is all parr for the course of your business. I really enjoyed this one...thanx

Whoa! I haven't torn down anywhere near the engines you have. That's the first wrist pin I've ever seen that was damaged at all let alone broken.

As a retired engineer I love watching these videos! I've loved cars and racing them for the past 20 years and getting to see the internals of a bunch of different engines really tells me a lot about the engineering that went into them. You can just about see the philosophy that went into the design. With the Viper we have an old school V8 that they want more power out of but have hit the limit of the block design, so let's just add two cylinders. But let's keep it old school simple: single cam with pushrods, no oil squirters up the bore to cool the pistons which would complicate the block casting. Just a 25% longer block and cam. What could be easier? Thanks, Eric, really enjoy these videos!

@sfbfriend

Жыл бұрын

You just answered my piston oil squirter question, thank you

@kkapalle

Жыл бұрын

This was exactly my thoughts when I compare this to a 12 cylinder Mercedes engine you already have difficulties dismantle the engine it is so complex

@randr10

Жыл бұрын

I watched a documentary on Ford's Formula 1 engine development from just a few years earlier than the Viper was conceived, and it makes sense to me now why companies used to do silly stuff like this (or what seemed silly to me). Cosworth tried using an existing factory Ford engine block to develop the race engine out of but the webbing turned out to be too weak and the crank would distort at high RPM. They had to go with a clean sheet design and the movie went through the whole engine development process of a new V6. It was so expensive to CNC machine a casting mold in that era that they still opted to have people hand carve them out of Brazilian mahogany. Needless to say it was insanely expensive to go through this process, not to mention all of the tooling they would inevitably have to adapt the design to in order to mass produce any new engine on the same assembly lines as other ones in the fleet. Slapping an extra pair of cylinders on the end of a truck V8 starts to make sense now. Same with the 90 degree V6's that were based on V8 engines. I still think as a long term strategy it hurt all of the domestic OEMs to design engines this way, but at least you can see their line of thinking. They were concerned with quarterly and annual reports, the short term profitability that effected their images and bonus pay in the short term.

@kensnyder9372

Жыл бұрын

@@randr10 Reminds of a Henry Ford story , all his bean counters came to his office and Mr.Ford you are losing thousands and thousands of dollars, on this farming stuff and if you keep doing this you will go broke Mr.Ford . He was looking out of his office window turned around and said , that is the best news i have heard all year ....

@kensnyder9372

Жыл бұрын

@@randr10 Oh on the farm stuff . Ford was a farm boy growing up and he hated how the farmers had to work , and he was gone help all farmers come hell or high water.So point out some one like him today ...impossible ...........................

The smallest things can cause the biggest problems. That leaf was wedged deep in the oil pickup where most people would never have found it. An amazing discovery and a plot worthy of the best crime drama!

One of your best tear downs. I enjoyed how this engine seemed simple compared to some of the OHC engines you've taken apart. I hope you make some good coin selling the parts. (:

@nigelman9506

10 ай бұрын

Yes, scrap metal

Thanks to Eric's Mom and Dad! It's very nice of you to pick this engine up for Eric. He did a great job of ripping it apart and analyzing the damage. Eric- you're the man when it comes to tearing down engines. God bless you entire family this Christmas.

Elwood: Oh no. Jake: What the **** was that? Elwood: The motor. We've thrown a rod. Jake: Is that serious? Elwood: Yup.

@crankychris2

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but that old 440 still was doing 116 mph. Not too shabby... ;))

Good post and great final recap of what could have happened. All of us who love to take on challenges, whether cars, machinery, guns, clocks, etc have like experiences with the items and every challenge is a learning experience. Happy new year!

I love this stuff. The time lapse is very good. Takes quite some to disassemble an engine especially when you're diagnosing the cause of failure. You never know what issues the thing had when it stopped running. Nice to know what's good or scrap. Excellent work.

In my tenure in the shop I rebuilt close to 400 engines and I’ve never seen that much carnage in an engine. Merry Christmas to you and yours Chris! Tell your parents thank you for bringing this Christmas present to your shop!

@TheBeingReal

Жыл бұрын

This was never a rebuild project. lol

@Nostradamus_Order33

Жыл бұрын

Owner never changed the oil, once.

@aSinisterKiid

Жыл бұрын

If you think this much carnage was bad, head over to the Steve Morris channel and check out his video on his 4k HP engine where all 8 rods exploded at the same instant.

@v12alpine

Жыл бұрын

if you want to see carnage check out steve morris's channel where all 8 rods exploded.

@ryanbrochu3336

Жыл бұрын

@@aSinisterKiid Link?

I was a technician for 17 years before I bought a Snap On Tool business. I have seen some really bad engine detonations but by far this Viper V10 engine was just mind boggling with hundreds of questions. I only wish I could have heard it explode. Rainman sent me to your sight and by far you do such a great job I will be watching you channel.

@future62

Жыл бұрын

Snap On tool business? You must be a rich man!

@jimbrooks5496

Жыл бұрын

I was at a tractor pull one time. The particular tractor had kind of a rail configuration. Engines hung way out front. On the end where a rad would have been, there was a steel block atou 3 to 4 feet square and 2 or 3 feet thick. Really heavy. The drive used a clutch. Every time the the driver revved the engine, it would lift the front wheels. The driver would then push in the clutch and it would drop the 3 or four feet down to ground level. This happened three times. The fourth time the engines said enough and started to disintegrate inside. Nothing really to see on the outside except the whole front of the tractor making left, right, up, down movements like a dog playing with a toy. Considering the mass of the steel block, engines, frame wheels etc I can't imagine the forces that were exerted. It was the hit of the show for us! Perhaps not for the driver.

@mobius-1503

Жыл бұрын

I Still have 2 ratchets of my wrench days with their internals busted and been wanting to get new gear sets for them lol. Is that somthing I could just order myself with the model numbers? They around 2008 year slim neck models.

@crazycoffee

Жыл бұрын

@@jimbrooks5496 Was at semi drags a few weeks ago. Old 60 Kenworth K100 cabover with a big cam cummins money shifted. Shook the stands. It was loud and was like staring into welding arcs

Looks like the leaf was the killer. Your editing is fantastic,man. Thanks for your time and effort,thanks to your parents, I knew they’d done an excellent job from watching the first video I watched on your channel.

Crazy Man....what a tear down surprise. Love the content pls keep it coming. All the best for 2023. 🤟

The wristpin is by far the most amazing thing about this engine

@jfan4reva

Жыл бұрын

And might have been the source of a lot of the destruction - high speed industructable object meets stationary immoveable object(s).

@oliverford9325

Жыл бұрын

What I said. They usually don't suffer that kind of damage. Don't know if those are full float pins or not

@LtJackboot

Жыл бұрын

I thought the more interesting thing was that for most of the video there were two wrist pins but only one rod. My imagination goes wild with things like that. Where the fk is the rest?? It has to be here somewhere! 🤣

@oliverford9325

Жыл бұрын

@@LtJackboot reduced to atoms

Merry Christmas Eric!! Thanks for the content that is exceptionally well made!! *edit: now that i know that eric's parents got him this, i gotta say a huge thanks to his parents for raising someone so awesome!*

Ok, this is engine teardown #3 that you somehow got me to watch! Your mannerisms and expressions absolutely crack me up :-) Thanks for doing this video - on Christmas Eve no less! My favorite parts are when you speed your voice up. Keep up the great work.

thanks for making these videos ,, i find them very interesting watching you find out what went wrong with them .. keep them coming ,, thanks again

okay, that was carnage-tastic. I kept imagining the moment of failure - all that motion and kinetic energy all going pear-shaped. Pretty awesome.

Thank you Eric for your channel; love your sarcasm and the teardowns. Merry Christmas to you and your family!

Hi Eric. Great post - really enjoyed the excitement of exploring the Viper and finding the devastation as you stripped her down. I muttered a few expletives myself as you stripped her down. Just subscribed for more. 😊👌

I hope you had a really nice Christmas with your family. This is the first time I've seen a Viper engine. It certainly opened my eyes.

Gen 3 viper engines are known to have poor oiling to the mains when cornering hard (You can see videos of people dropping oil pressure in the curves). The 4th gen 8.4 engines switched to a swinging pickup design which more or less fixed the issue. Funny thing is the viper V10 basically started life as a stretched LA v8 engine, so let's just say that engine was getting back to it's roots. I really dug the anti-wear skirt that one piston had!

@psk5746

8 ай бұрын

Cornering hard ... is that possible?

@HenrySomeone

6 ай бұрын

Always great when the engine doesn't lubricate well in a situation it will find itself very often in...like hard cornering in a Viper...

@pixy8897

6 ай бұрын

@@psk5746 Vipers can turn, man :v

@steakandkidney3142

4 ай бұрын

Allen Millyards' Viper bike doesn't have that issue.

The broken wrist pin absolutely surprised me, I’ve never come across a broken one, I’ve seen them beat up, but never broken.

@MrGGPRI

Жыл бұрын

right, very strange...

Back at ya, I love all your tear downs. The Viper was a special treat👍.

I've never seen any of these videos before. Thorough, knowledgeable, humorous. I actually learned quite a lot!

You do a great job editing the time lapse to keep the video moving without losing any detail! Well done!

NICE! These engines are so badass! Merry Christmas to all the fans of this channel.

This is about the sixth of your videos that I've watched so far since finding them yesterday. From "come here, spark plug" in one to "you guys know the drill" in this one, I knew I'd found my kind of place. The teardowns are fascinating, too.

That was very enjoyable to watch. Someone like me is always interested in what the inside of an engine looks like. In this case, a Viper. Thanks for the awesome video.

I love that your parents help with bad decisions. BTW Merry Christmas to your family and all the viewers! Edit: I spy a RX-7 FB in the background, I ran one into the ground from 55K to 175K before the list of problems just didn't make economic sense. I drove it like I stole it for five years (1990 to 1995) with only small problems. Good times all in all.

@noble6791

Жыл бұрын

The only proper way to run an RX-7

For me, the money shot was at 41:29---I have never, ever seen a piston skirt look like that. I'm sure this one was dead silent when it came apart....NOT! Happy holidays, Eric!

So many twists in this episode! The broken wrist pin, the perfect water pump that did not get yeeted across the shop! What an emotional roller coaster. ;-)

I was part of a 5.0l engine tear down at CEP#1 in the early 90's. Our plant required that any engine deemed defective had to come back for tear down before a new engine was released. This engine was a 5.0l Mustang, which was ironically owned by a Ford employee. When the intake manifold was removed we found the foil seal off of the oil container lying in the tappet valley. Enough said, I'm pretty sure the leaf you found was the cause of this V10 blowing up. Great videos keep them coming.

Most certainly happened at idle just after startup 🤣

@mikefoehr235

Жыл бұрын

So real low rpm

@davidb6576

Жыл бұрын

During cranking. On a weak battery...

@Backroad_Junkie

Жыл бұрын

@@davidb6576 Yeah, they come with a heck of a starter motor, lol...

@jfan4reva

Жыл бұрын

Gotta be gentle with these delicate high perf engines when they're cold ( lol!)

Merry Christmas to you and the family Eric. Thanks for all the awesome content.

Dude you have this tear-down thing to a silence that is priceless to watch - That Viper engine is a one of a kind wish I could have been sitting in the seat and hear that pup come apart - bet you could hear it a mile away! Thanks Mike

I absolutely love the fact that I am not the ONLY guy who closes his eyes, says "It'll be OK" 3 times and gives 'er a whack! Love your videos !

That was a treat of a tear down. It takes some heat to have look like it was melted down the side of the piston skirt.

I just want that piston pin. I imagine that the rev limiter was unplugged and at 10,000 rpm with a hundred psi oil pressure with a leaf indy pick-up, could've cause this damage. The oil starvation theory looks very legit.

@Omgninjas2

Жыл бұрын

Yeah she was at full send and then some when she blew. Must have a glorious noise upon destruction

@fatihomur5731

Жыл бұрын

Could imagine someone money shifted it

Your editing is great. You fast forward through the exact places I would wish. Terrific.

I’m a New subscriber. Hello from Lubbock Texas. I find these very interesting. Your parents are a Blessing. God Bless you and your family. My Dad passed away last month and he Did so much for me .

I think you're onto something with the leaf and oil starvation/low level. However it got in, if it happened to flatten out on the screen, that's a pretty big part of the pickup being restricted. But that's all speculation! In any case, loved the video. I hope you have a great holiday with your family!

@HumbleHonkingEnthusiast

Жыл бұрын

Seeing as almost every single bearing surface looks to have been oil starved, along with the blueing on the small rod end, im willing to bet it got oil starved on a full throttle pull and just obliterated itself. I think someone was changing the oil on a windy day and missed a leaf falling into the oil fill!

@smasica

Жыл бұрын

@@HumbleHonkingEnthusiast You must have read my mind. I was thinking the same thing before I read your comment.

@samfeldman1508

Жыл бұрын

Can you imagine a 26K Viper engine being taken out by a leaf? I think I’m going to cry.

It’s a Christmas Miracle! If there’s one thing I’ve noticed, it’s that when a “performance” oriented engine lets go, it usually lets go BAAAAADDD. Like, super bad. This was certainly no exception to that rule. Have a great holiday period, Eric and best wishes to you and your family. This channel’s been a weekly go-to for me for well over a year and I love the content.

@edifyguy

Жыл бұрын

That's because when things go bad, engines direct the power they're making at themselves. Performance engines can make a lot of power, and things usually go bad when they're doing it really well ;)

"Nugget to sauce ratio" had me. Love your content Eric - keep 'em coming.

Thanks, nice work! I was amazed how much metal thickness in the viper. Also amazed how short the piston skirts are.

Merry Christmas my dude! I’m looking forward to another year of content from ya

Awesome gift Eric! Thank you for all the hard work on the channel. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your family!

Love your videos and the humor you add is awesome! The more I see your work though - the more my desire to drive electric increases.

Nice job. Very entertaining, informative and clever, as usual.

Would be interesting to see if the crankshaft is bent as well. That may explain the difficulty in removing it from the block.

Another great tear down. I’m going to take a guess that after the initial explosion the driver attempted to keep driving the car even though there was zero oil pressure. Thus the extent of main bearing damage in addition to the initial detonation.

As a mechanical engineer and a shade tree mechanic, I wondered why you pulled push rods. removed roller rockers. pulled pistons, etc and did not keep them in order UNTIL I saw the condition of the block. There is no "fixing" the block, as this engine rpms and pressures would just create another catastrophic event. But thanks for doing all the work to show us what the V10 viper engine looks like!

Badass channel brother. First time here. As a parts replacer myself this was a treat.

Really appreciate the time spent making these videos for us.

Merry Christmas! All the best to you and yours. Keep the great content coming

Eric, your such a cool dude and keep up the good work mate. Hats off too your parents as well. Thanks to them for picking up the viper donk. Happy Christmas to yo All..✌️

Damn. The broken wrist pin is something I never thought I’d see. Probably watched about 50 hours of your videos this week and didn’t expect to see that. Love the channel!

I'm here by myself on Christmas Eve and I enjoyed this teardown, very informative...Merry Christmas to all...

It's amazing how much damage an engine can take and still run! Awesome video!

New name for Channel. The Engine Detective. Fascinating channel and description is clear and funny. Well done.

"See if there's malice in the compression palace?" Pure art on your part. Did you know listening to your vids while sick is therapeutic? Something satisfying about the whiz twirlers.

Often on the Viper engine, what causes many of the catastrophic problems, Starts from a cracked exhaust manifold. as you will see, the one manifold you pulled is cracked right at the O2 sensor. That throws the mixture out of wack, then if not repaired, the problem escalates.

@sHoRtBuSseR

Жыл бұрын

On extremely high performance engines like this, a lean condition can absolutely cause catastrophic failure. Good catch on the crack.

@Milkmans_Son

Жыл бұрын

@@sHoRtBuSseR Wouldn't the computer go rich for an exhaust leak though?

@sHoRtBuSseR

Жыл бұрын

@@Milkmans_Son typically I see lean codes with exhaust leaks

@Milkmans_Son

Жыл бұрын

@@sHoRtBuSseR True but it would be a false lean condition so the computer adds (too much) fuel. I think.

@sHoRtBuSseR

Жыл бұрын

@@Milkmans_Son ahhh you're right. I've been out of the gasoline side for about a year so I got a little rusty lol.

Judging by the condition of this motor you'll probably have its replacement for next year! Marry Christmas to your whole family and especially your new addition!

First time I've seen this show. A great show, Eric knows a lot! Will watch more of this for sure!!!!!

Great video ! I learned a lot just viewing it. Thanks for adding it to KZread !

Merry Christmas, Eric! Thank you Eric's mom and dad for picking up the engine!

The viper engine is an awesome beast, if you ever get a later 8.4 engine in i'd be very interested in the camshaft and cam phaser. They're a special design that is unique to that engine.

@earlscheib7754

Жыл бұрын

He already did a 8.4

@davidb6576

Жыл бұрын

@@earlscheib7754 Truck version, not Viper.

@vexed_con

Жыл бұрын

@@davidb6576trucks never got the 8.4. Hes done only 8.3l motors.

@keithwalton

Жыл бұрын

8.4 cams are unique and require a cam phaser, none of the engines he's torn down has it. The camshaft itself is actually two cam's in one and has the ability to vary the exhaust timing and thus valve overlap. They had the option to independently vary the intake and exhaust timing but didn't go for it as they said it would create too much 'tire smoke' (low end torque) and would cost a little more for the phaser but would need an uprated clutch, gearbox, prop-shaft, differential and drive shafts to handle the extra torque. Rumour has it they broke all of the above during testing and detuned the viper for production. It was only when they put the engine in a challenger drag pak that it was fully unleashed, if you haven't seen it look up the '11 Challenger drag pak, it has all the trans upgrades to handle the toque monster.

@vexed_con

Жыл бұрын

@@keithwalton the engine found In the drag pack challenger is heavily reworked compared to the engines found in the vipers. Everything apart from the short block is different.

Impressive blown engine remains! I always wondered what a blown engine looks like from the inside!

Greetings from Scotland! I would love to hear an audio of the point when that beastie finally let go and flew apart! There's no sound quite like it! You know when it happens - it's gonna be expensive! BUT as you said, no point in roasting them. You still come out on the upside financially! Shame you couldn't repair it though, it would have been a sweet motor to hear running again! Great video Sir! Have a great 2023!

What happens with some of these cars, and alot of other, shall we say exotics is that they're not driven very often and the owners neglect to change the oil on a regular. The mileage doesn't matter, motor oils degrade over time whether you drive the vehicle or not. That's why the manufacturer will recommend to change it say, every 5k or 12 months for example, depending on the vehicle of course. Also, short trips where the engine never gets up to temp is another thing that just destroys the oils viscosity. It doesn't make the temps to burn the water that inevitably gets in there out. That's probably what turned that oil into pudding.

I can only imagine the sound this made when it exploded

@Coolhansolo

Жыл бұрын

That boy speed dialed AAA after. Complete blow up.

@bikeaddictbp

Жыл бұрын

I think it said "bang". LOL

@jfan4reva

Жыл бұрын

@@bikeaddictbp BANGBANgBangrattlerattlerattlerattle quiet PROFANITYPROFANITYPROFANITYPROFANITYPROFANITY* *driver, not the engine.

At 20m, had my suspicions before, thinking this was money shifted lol

I'm inspired..! I'm not (by definition) an auto mechanic, but I know enough to troubleshoot certain mechanical problems in the making. I'm a veteran Broadcast Engineer and TV Producer and Director. More to the point... my hobby's are restoring vintage electronics. Specifically Reel-to- Reel tape recorders, Phonographs (and jukeboxes), Radios and so on. Purchasing items with minimal documentation can be disappointing. Most sellers don't really know the history of an item, or have minimal knowledge of what they're selling. I try not to hold it against them when the item arrives and it obviously is in WAY worse condition than described. I restore every item out of appreciation for the history, rare-ness and unique-ness. So I agree. . . "Never attribute to malice what can be explained by ignorance." Great video..! Well produced..!

Very interesting teardown. My teardown of a 10.5 hp B+S engine paled in comparison, but had comparable damage.😀 Happy holidays!

Best Christmas ever

Couple of engines that blew on me were just fine till i put the car in a speedshift to the next gear down instead of up with it at redline before the shift. one blew right away either started knocking about three turns before it locked right though the block, all three. The honda pulled the mains out of the block and the crank wsa bent even. rod caught he bottom of the bore just perfectly and it pushed the crank out. Just about everything in the block was bad but put the head on another short block and blew it up too, 50,000 miles later. the first one only went 50,000 hard mile too. It looked like the rod and the crank had been repaired as the car was new and had a start cold problem with heavy oil on a very cold night. Keep up the good work. I get a blown car in , I look for your show on that engine to see how it''s taken apart. You have saved me lots of time, and money fixing engines. I've been doing that since 1969 but i still see lots of stuff I wouldn't get to see if it weren't for your shows.

That was amazing, How did you kept your cool with all the surprises.