It's always funny to see people on twitter claim they want lower budget, stylized games but didn't buy Octopath 2, Triangle Strategy, Bravely default 2, neo twewy and a whole lot more. I still remember when that Bayonetta origins game was first announced and my timeline was full of "who asked for this?" tweets.

@Centrioless

14 күн бұрын

Reminds me of dead space remake. It was an exceptional game, but then you realize the ppl who asked for this remake is a minority

@seushimarejikaze1337

14 күн бұрын

@@Centrioless because remakes need to be advertised also as a normal game. they cant be made only for fans. like what is the chance that someone will buy a game second time when he/she already knows the story and knows how the game mechanics work. only hardcore fans will buy that. there are exceptions where original is so widely known and 'ancient' that the hype for remake carries the game into initial sales, but besides that, there is nothing that would otherwise boost the sales beyond advertising campaign.

@mikev8746

14 күн бұрын

@@seushimarejikaze1337 How would you explain RE remakes then? I'm sure Persona 3 Remake did well. You can say what you want about FF7 Retrilogy but you can't deny that it sells pretty good over the long haul and has good reception. Dead Space Remake was an issue because most people are pussies. So the hype for a horror Remake that has no appeal beyond jump scares for normies is apparently to much to ask.

@MTGHedgefund

14 күн бұрын

​@@mikev8746I think it also depends on whether a remake is needed. Persona 3 needed a remake to make it more accessible to the general populace. FF7 is broadly available, so a "remake" made more sense than a strict 1:1 remake of a game that anyone can play, many have already played, and many already consider a masterpiece

@buzzdb66

13 күн бұрын

@@Centrioless Dead Space remake was so good too, and I never even played the original back in the day. It's a shame it didn't do well, because I would have loved a remake of the second one as well (I heard the third one sucked though).

Regarding FF7 Rebirth's sales, I think many people simply can't afford or don't want to buy a PS5 just to play this game. I did, and I certainly enjoy the game, but it doesn't justify the over $600 I spent just to play it. I think the PC version of Rebirth will be more successful than the PS5 version, especially once it gets to steam.

@NamelessCat77

13 күн бұрын

My reason to owning a PS5 is to be my Final Fantasy/SMT/Yakuza machine and its doing that exactly. Also those three franchises are the only ones I still give a damn about

@SubduedRadical

12 күн бұрын

I agree with your first point. I KIND of agree with your second, with caveats. I got FF7R because I needed a diversion from real life at the time...but that's not common nor consistent with me. I wont' be buying FF7R2 or FF16 when it comes to PC. I don't want to pay full price for a year (or more) old game after dodging spoilers for a year. So I just watched playthroughs of the games, engaged in theory discussions with people, and moved on. More and more people are going to do this until they stop the exclusivity. While I DO fully expect the PC release will sell more copies than the PS5 release did, I think it will sell LESS copies than it would have had it been released directly to PC.

@shatterlss7814

12 күн бұрын

I didn't want to buy PS5 for it. If they had gone the faithful remake route I would have bought into it by now. I know some people enjoyed it but I was disappointed with remake and decided to stop supporting for that reason.

@NamelessCat77

12 күн бұрын

@@shatterlss7814 wait for part 3 to release because there will be a bundle that comes with all 3 parts for $70. How do I know that? Because Rebirth comes bundle with Part 1 (w/ Yuffie dlc).

@12ealDealOfficial

12 күн бұрын

This. I think Rebirth is the only PS5 specific title along with FFXVI that I even own for my PS5. It just plays PS4 games the rest of the time.

16 and FF7R being PS5 exclusives was like tying their legs together and telling them to run a marathon

@Psyk60

14 күн бұрын

That depends on how much money Sony gave them for it.

@paledrake

14 күн бұрын

@@Psyk60 I'm honestly super curious how much they paid SE because fucking up their sales probably lost them a few millions at the very least.

@timothyn4699

13 күн бұрын

waiting for ff7R pt2 to port to PC, can't really justify a PS5 for one game

@jgkitarel

11 күн бұрын

The benefit for console is that they have only one baseline for settings to cater to, rather than a whole different host of settings that multiplatforming can do. And a game working well on one platform does not necessarily work well on all the others, even when those others may be objectively better. This has a lot to do with the engine the game was developed under, as several work well with console only and only one console at that. Had it been developed under an engine that works well across platforms, such as Unreal Engine, it would be much more likely to be multiplatform. I have seen the cross platforming of games go badly too many times over the last couple of decades, even when a game was supposed to be released on multiple platforms from the start. And this isn't only a relic of the past, it still happens fairly regularly to this day.

@paledrake

11 күн бұрын

@@jgkitarel Who is going to tell this fella that FF7R is actually running on Unreal Engine? Lmao

Pricing is definitely a huge factor when playera decide to open their wallets, especially regional pricing. Dont charge AAA prices for AA projects. People are alwayd going to look at what they get for the price they paid.

Triangle Strategy was a wonderful game. I'm sad that we probably won't get a sequel of it, but I can always hope.

@stanm4410

14 күн бұрын

It sold 800K copies in a few weeks after release and 1+ million by the end of the year. The team Asano switch games (Octopath, Triangle Strategy, Bravely Default 2) have all sold at least 1 million copies each (that we know of). They are profitable games. It's the Babylons Fall, Avengers, Forespoken type games that are killing their company profitability. High cost, low sales/returns.

@Ukaran

14 күн бұрын

The guy in charge of team Asano(that made the game), was promoted last month, so I'm pretty sure Square-Enix is happy with Asano's games.

@Sakura_Matou

14 күн бұрын

If anything they will double down on games like Octopath and Triangle Strategy, especially after the sucess of Star Ocean 2 R, and the Un realted to Square Unicorn Overlord. Yoshi P even has said he would love FF 17 to be Turned base.

@Ukaran

14 күн бұрын

@@Sakura_Matou What Yoshi-P says is irrelevant.

@MTGHedgefund

14 күн бұрын

​@@Ukarannot really

Pour one out for Harvestella

@GetterRay

14 күн бұрын

Harvestella was too good for this world. Too many people got filtered in Chapter 3 thinking that was the entire game because that's how Rune Factory is set up.

@AAbattery444

13 күн бұрын

I'm really sad harvestella didn't do better. It was a really good game. I'm hoping for a sequel one day. But it doesn't seem like that will be the case. It has so much potential.

@lpstweetytv5242

13 күн бұрын

It might be poor advertising cause I never even heard of it till seeing this comment

This was the best analysis of SquareEnix's financial losses I've seen yet. Tired of hearing KZreadrs say "See, Square lost money because of Tifa's boobs!" lol. SquareEnix: Hmm the Resident Evil Remakes are very popular...What to do?... Me: Remake Parasite Eve!!!

@av_8596

14 күн бұрын

*Yes, please!*

@ahmadrunningwild85

14 күн бұрын

Problem: Square would have to apply again the licence to Parasite Eve.

@xcom54

14 күн бұрын

yes, YTubers that probably don't even play FF games making everything about boobs & jiggle physics now. Nothing but BOOOOBs, BOOOOOOBs, BOOOOBs.

@av_8596

14 күн бұрын

​@@ahmadrunningwild85 I know Square is struggling financially, but do you think that that's doable? With this all of these RE remakes, and also the remake of Dead Space, Parasite Eve would fit right in and could do very well.

@Dr_OneWing

14 күн бұрын

I truly do not understand the “Tifas boobs” fiasco. I see tons of videos saying something to the effect of “Square went broke because they went “woke and censored Tifa”” and I’m like “are we playing the same game? did everyone just conveniently forget costa del sol?”

I think cutting the fat and trying to be as lean and quality as possible is the best move for sure. I don't agree at all with the people that think FF has lost too much relevance to sell what they need it to. FF can reinvent itself and has done so several times. If FF17 is a banger free of the baggage of any prior games it can be big. They just have to nail it.

@zacatkinson3926

15 күн бұрын

It’s impossible everyone has different tastes

@ailithtwinning6806

14 күн бұрын

"If they can make a game totally different than what their process and "star talent" have been producing for 20 years they'll crush" And if I could hit a baseball 400 feet 15% of the time I'd be the greatest baseball player in history.

@facundoaguirre9826

14 күн бұрын

@@zacatkinson3926 I don't agree. For example, take a look at the comparisons between FF16 and FF7 Rebirth. Both were good games for what they were, but one is clearly the better game. Personally, I think if FF16 had had the open world style, side quest quality, customization, and rpg elements that rebirth had... I would still be playing it. The only issue I see with rebirth are some people complaining about story changes and maybe mini games.

@zacatkinson3926

13 күн бұрын

@@facundoaguirre9826 ff16 had no open world ….. jfc

@facundoaguirre9826

13 күн бұрын

@@zacatkinson3926 do you not have any reading comprehension skills? Ok.

Yeah, I saw literally tens of viral videos talking about how it's over for SE and how they're cooked and I'm like: "How?!" This decision is literally the best thing they could do to save the company. Meanwhile everybody posting videos and sharing news like it's the end of the world for SE. lol

@kpsk8031

14 күн бұрын

Their A, AA strategy was fine. Unfortunately the games were meh/mediocre, not marketed and ridiculously overpriced. Everyone could see that Valkyrie Elysium, DQ Treasures, SO Divine Force were not worth the price tag.

@gianniszafeiridis6139

14 күн бұрын

NSP what is your opinion on this?

@gianniszafeiridis6139

14 күн бұрын

people jumping so easily on conclusions is unbelievable, these companies are not your friends.

@drumjod

14 күн бұрын

A lot of people seem to tend straight towards doom and gloom as often as possible. Plus, it's likely that those negative videos get more visibility and clicks, which is an unfortanate aspect of online algorithms.

@castle_02

14 күн бұрын

Reading comprehension and critical thinking is harder to find these days. Most people sheepishly believe clickbait titles and regurgitate whatever is trending, refusing to look into things on their own unfortunately.

This is obviously sad news for anyone involved in the development of those cancelled game, but it didn't take a genius to realise it was completely stupid to release all those AA games within weeks of each other back in 2022 (The Diofield Chronicle, Harvestella... I just checked the list, it's 9 games within the space of 3 months). Not only weren't they received well, but even if they had been good, they would have just been the game of the week that nobody played and got forgotten instantly

As long as I get the third part of FFVII: Remake series, I’m good. The only other thing I could want is a reboot of Xenogears and FFXVII.

@devasprime6700

14 күн бұрын

With how good FFVII:Rebirth handled combat, I'd love for Sony to take another stab at Legends of Dragoon. Note: Edited to give Sony there due credit for LOD.

@brettitsuka9448

14 күн бұрын

Xenogears is the biggest longshot, and seeing how they did the game dirty in the second half of the game I doubt that they could get the creator back. Especially now that they have continued the vision with xenosaga and xenoblade.

@kg888

13 күн бұрын

Why would they reboot xenogear? 😂 this is square, they going to milk the shit out of FF and KH. Dragon quest maybe.

@TypicallyUniqueOfficial

13 күн бұрын

@@kg888 it’s a long shot, but that doesn’t mean a man can’t hope for it 😂. Xenogears is my fav RPG of all time.

@SubduedRadical

12 күн бұрын

Loved Xenogears, Xenosaga, and how it seems like BOTH may be canon in XC3's ending (I'm...still not ENTIRELY sure about that, but that radio broadcast was a nerdgasm). But here I am also still waiting for another Chrono game. Maybe someday...

SquareEnix also needs to admit (unfortunately Japanese business culture makes this impossible) that they themselves fucked up. Some of these flops were because THEY made shit decisions as developers or because suits couldn't stay out of the way and sabatoged their projects. Regard Neo The World Ends with You, they need to admit that they didn't market that game at all outside of Japan. They sent that game, a very decent game out to die.

Something that Square doesn’t seem to realize that when you only release a game on one platform at a time, you’re not going to get record sales numbers.

@SubduedRadical

12 күн бұрын

THIS. As I said in my own comment, I don't have a PS5, am not buying one, and I'm not going to dodge spoilers for a year and then pay full price for a year old game. PS5 exclusivity is why I didn't buy FF16 and won't be buying FF7R2. Conversely, look at FF14. PC, and also on PS5 (AND, for the time being, 4), and now also on X-Box, and is a pretty big success.

@jo-e-type-s8203

12 күн бұрын

Totally agreed. These closed development cycles need to be limited to like 3-4 months exclusivity tops. Either that or develop for pc from the get go and just push back the envelope on the release by a few months. And I know one XBox fanboy named Arron who would likely enjoy the attention for the Series X. Just look at the success on multiplatform for the PC and XBox, like now the smart move to put out a version of FFXIV/14 for Xbox. Its clearly a smart move.

@Acesinz

12 күн бұрын

Thats probably cuz they aint doing good anymore. They should’ve never stopped making games like FF1 till FF12. That was when Square were at their highest peak (ofcourse FF14 was a Hit as well)

@supersaiyaman11589

9 күн бұрын

@@SubduedRadical if a game comes to pc a year after it hits ps5 it is new to pc. i would pay full price for a game that just came out on pc if i really wanted it. however this time i will wait for final fantasy rebirth too come to steam before i buy it.

@SubduedRadical

9 күн бұрын

@@supersaiyaman11589 Doesn't change the fact it's still a year old game. Imagine if a game came to PC then came to PS5 10 years later. Would that still be a new game? By your definition, it would and should sell for full price. But that's just silly. In my case, I like playing the games but I really like the story. If I know the story - and who doesn't? It's not possible to dodge spoilers for over a year unless you're a wilderness hermit - then that takes most of the point out of it. I also kind of want to take part in the people trying to say "STOP THE STUPID PS5 EXCLUSIVES", and if that means not buying the game, easy enough.

A rule of thumb in the video game industry is that 9/10 games fail, but the 1 also needs to carry / pay the other 9.

@beanlegume9965

11 күн бұрын

Exactly, you get it. FF16 and FF7 Rebirth did well, but not well enough to pay for all of the stinkers. The stinkers are necessary to an extent because they never really know when one of them is going to blow up into something that can be franchised: another final fantasy. But the video game market has gotten so bloated and expensive that there’s really only 4 models that are selling well, I think: the blockbusters like FF7R (remakes being a subcategory of blockbusters), the indy games that people pay 5 to 20 bucks for, play for a week and never play again, the MMORPG (FF14), and the pay to win PvP games like Brave Exvius and WOTV. I think those are the 4/5 pipelines that they will be investing in, to the detriment of smaller franchises.

As a fan this sounds like what we've been asking for for over a decade now. Square Enix has some of the most beloved IP's in gaming history. All they have to do is drop the exclusivity deals, and have all hands on deck to refine and polish games Like FF7Rebirth and KH4 with quality we've been starved of since the PS2 days. They had their era of "Do everything but make the games people want." Now they're saddling up and getting ready to return to the big hitters THE RIGHT WAY. Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Kingdom Hearts, and others. They have the means, they have the IPs, they have a functioning game engine, and they have the fans. They've proven what they can do with Rebirth, and hopefully they can prove what they can do with KH4.

@TheInquisitor26

14 күн бұрын

Well said.

@SubduedRadical

12 күн бұрын

Right? They've got some amazing IPs if they just focus on those for a bit. Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Kingdom Hearts, hell, even the Chrono and Xeno series. They have the rights to these big name IPs, but keep trying to dabble in random other untested stuff to try and capture a fanbase that was begging for a FF7 remake for literally two decades, a new KH game all the time, and hasn't stopped wanting another Chrono game for nearly THIRTY YEARS now.

@hoohoo431

3 күн бұрын

Exactly. I had fun with the bulk of the KH games that came out, even the controversial ones like BBS and 3 hold high places in my heart, (I only hate CoM, the mobile games, and MoM) but it's time for them to start picking up the fucking pace and making shit worth the prices they're charging. No more waiting for Nomura's latest drug trip, no more gacha game nonsense, this needs to be GOOD.

As long as nothing interferes with FFVII Remake part 3’s release I’ll be happy.

@lostvayne9146

14 күн бұрын

why would anything interfere with the IP that can be milked.

@kevinramirez3134

14 күн бұрын

Oh it will.

@supersaiyaman11589

12 күн бұрын

i agree final fantasy 7 rebirth is an excellent game. some people don't like any changes at all however i rather like the changes they have made. you don't have to tell the exact same story the exact same way.example avatar the last air bender series and Netflix series of avatar the last air bender they are not told in the same way but both are really good. just look at the numbers of final fantasy 7 rebirth it sold really well it sold around 2 million copies. while it is down from remake but that is to be expected as some people don't have patents for sequells and then their are the purists that don't like any change at all in their games. i rather like that they went with an action combat system and the story is really well done imo.

@supersaiyaman11589

12 күн бұрын

@@lostvayne9146 do you not like final fantasy 7 rebirth and remake or the direction final fantasy 16 has gone.

@phantomslay5612

11 күн бұрын

@@supersaiyaman11589 I agree. The changes don't really bug me. And the story may be complicated at points but it's obvious that it's just building up to the final part, where we'll get all the answers. Honestly, that was kind of the story structure of the original FFVII too. Most of the game's big mysteries were saved for the later parts of the game, which the remake has not covered yet. So I'm going to reserve full judgment on the writing choices until the final part comes out. Hopefully, they stick the landing.

Just don't kill my Octopaths, please.

@CrimsonRayne

14 күн бұрын

Nah the mobile game is keeping it alive and has amazing reviews. Any mobile anything makes tons of money. Also the mobile story is freaking amazing. Gives game of thrones a run for their money.

@carlstevenwilletts

14 күн бұрын

It would be madness if they did. Octopath Traveler is great, and its sequel is outstanding.

@dividedbyzero4

14 күн бұрын

octopath man was promoted to board of directors so i doubt they'll kill those

@dennisdavidov782

14 күн бұрын

Wasn't the developer Acquire bought out by Kadokawa ? So they'll probably going to be tasked with making different games from now on.

@carlstevenwilletts

14 күн бұрын

@@dennisdavidov782 I believe you are correct. Let's hope they still make more Octopath Traveler games.

I'm glad SE is finally getting their shit together. They've been in the slumps for far too long. I just hope that SE stays as far away as possible from NFT's. Whatever happened to that crap?

@XerosigmaZ

14 күн бұрын

I think it actually died. People didn’t buy into that or the “blockchain” crap and it actually died off. I wouldn’t be surprised if some the $140M squeenix lost was due to some of those blockchain titles they were planning.

Part of the problem is that none of these big corporations consider making money in the long term after a game release. All that matters are immediate sales. New fans are born, and old fans die every day, and the new ones don't always outpace the old ones.

@RippahRooJizah

14 күн бұрын

I think some would argue that big corporations considerations of making money in the long term after a game release is the reason why "modern gaming is bad".

@The_Phoenix_Saga

14 күн бұрын

@@RippahRooJizah you make a good game, it lasts far long after the sales cease and the demand remains. This is something most modern games lack.

@sjneow

14 күн бұрын

Not Square Enix though, their FF merchandise are big

@RippahRooJizah

14 күн бұрын

@@The_Phoenix_Saga I mean, that's something many games "back then" lacked as well, long term appeal. That being said, what I was getting to was largely more cookie cutter yearly releases and pay to win economies in free and paid games (I'm fine with microtransactions as a concept, it's use can simply vary greatly from good to bad). To be fair you also have Nintendo, who very well knows their games have long term appeal. Which is why they specifically limit the sales on their games (not speculation, they stated their 'evergreen' games have enough long term appeal and demand that they don't have to cut the prices down much). Make of that what you will.

@The_Phoenix_Saga

14 күн бұрын

@@RippahRooJizah First of all, there is NEVER a good use for the concept of microtransactions for what's supposed to be a finished product; first it was DLC then it was console based subscriptions just to play online and then microtransactions. I dread to think of worse - oh wait they tried with NFTs, thank goodness the world's brain hasn't rot that far. Yet. Second of all when a game after twenty years still gets a mention and draws in a crowd for copies of the game as you appropriately mention, not ever dropping in value, you know you're in for a good time. Most modern games are put on sale barely a year out of the box. Case in point - A copy of the original Silent Hill you could charge a hundred and people would pay it whilst the likes of the RE2 remake, is frequently going on the storefront discounts while most who played it once or twice will never look at it again, whereas it's original incarnation retains its worth. Take of that what you will.

I also think that it would help if FFXVI and FFVII rebirth came out on PS5 and PC at the same time.

I think you're absolutely correct quality over quantity is always better and that means more Final Fantasy games with higher quality which is something that most of us would like to see

A part of me is worried if some of these cancelled games are the rumored FF games we’ve been hearing since 2021

@Acesinz

12 күн бұрын

I just wish they made Games like Final Fantasy 10 and earlier series.

I hope this doesn't mean we won't see that inevitable IX remake.

@NamelessCat77

13 күн бұрын

Don't lose hope fading hope hold onto hope

@jgkitarel

11 күн бұрын

It would be a mainline Final Fantasy title, so chances are good that it will still go through.

@dcpunisher4781

5 күн бұрын

I heard FF9 is going to be on a much smaller scale than the FF7 remakes, so it could very well still greenlighted.

@NamelessCat77

5 күн бұрын

@@dcpunisher4781 I don’t mind that so long as it’s a fix translation that’s close to the Japanese script

They better not have cancelled the Final Fantasy IX remake!

As I said before, all this nonsense about FF7 Remake selling poorly was just used by people who didn't like the changes as an argument that the game is bad. Maybe it underperformed in terms of sales expectations but that doesn't mean it didn't sell well. On the contrary, with the inevitable pc-release and many people waiting for the series to end before they buy the games, we're bound to see a major boost in sales of Remake over the next few years for sure.

We can probably kiss that Tactics remake goodbye now.

They were pushing these older games out to essentially die without marketing support or hype. Square needs to get back to being the true triple A meister quality it used to be - we need FFVII, KH4, FF7R3, DQ, Nier etc. without these projects floating in development/personality hell for years. They still have some of the greatest talent the world has ever seen for games and the pedigree to do so muhc more. It also needs to all be day and date on PC now because PS5 is just too small an install base and FF's resurgence has been so heavily fed by XIV.

@urazz7739

15 күн бұрын

To be fair, AAA publishers really do spend way too much on advertising and the budgets of AAA games in general need to be lowered by a good amount.

@Nyla_emotes

15 күн бұрын

Completely agree with you @shhh532 ! This is amazing news!

@BigBoiUltra3741

14 күн бұрын

I'm pretty sure by FFVII, you mean FFXVII, right?

@RippahRooJizah

14 күн бұрын

I wouldn't call the PS5's install base "too small", but I wouldn't be against a PC port. Not that it matters to me, I have both anyways.

@Ukaran

14 күн бұрын

"It also needs to all be day and date on PC now because PS5 is just too small an install base and FF's resurgence has been so heavily fed by XIV". You are ignoring the fact that Square is paid a lot of money to keep their games exclusive, and that FFXIV is still a niche game, since it's an MMO(if there is a FF game responsible for the series' ressurgence, it's FF7 Remake).

We need a true Front Mission sequel

@phrofile3613

14 күн бұрын

Yes!!!!! Also front mission 3 remake would be amazing

@armorvil

14 күн бұрын

...and it seems many people don't realize that this news means that the possibility of its development is even lower now. They'll focus even more on what has mass appeal and T-RPGs don't have that.

Resident Evil is definitely more of a western friendly franchise. Westerners love guns and zombies so it’s not even a surprise.

@paledrake

14 күн бұрын

Yeah this.

I'm worried about the loss of AA games. Like you said, SE was one of the only companies still making AA games, and now it seems they are stopping that. I'm worried about the loss of smaller budget games that are too small to be AAA but too big to be Indie. this polarisation is in the long term going to limit the gaming industry, but it's what chasing the profit will do. I really hope SE keeps experinenting. I hope the art isn't dead. Like the meme says: I want shorter games, with worse graphics, made by people who are paid more to work less.

@Ukaran

14 күн бұрын

Well, the guy in charge of team Asano was just promoted last month, so I don't think AA games will stop.

Honestly, when I think of Square, I literally at first only remember that they're the ones who make the FF games, KH games, Chrono Trigger, and the Dragon Quest games. I completely forget (or maybe push it out of my mind) that they also ventured into stuff like the Avengers and Forspoken. I remember back in 2020 that Remake basically had to save the company after the Avengers left a huge hole in their budget. If they are going to be devoting more resources to the things that work, I am all for it. Of course, they should still leave a bit of money for experimental stuff, in case they come up with the next big series.

@lostvayne9146

14 күн бұрын

all this "hole in the budget" is ridiculous. These companies are too big to have their entire enterprise hinge on one project. Its like people think SE are always just slightly above water. That any IP will bankrupt them. That isn't reality. Plenty of companies out there that do not have the portfolio of SE continue to thrive. Through corrupt money and investments.

@MikeRavia-xp5ig

13 күн бұрын

I think of enix when I think of dragon quest not square.

@NamelessCat77

12 күн бұрын

Remake didn’t save Square. Console exclusive does hurt sales. It was FF14 that saved them because during Covid the sales spike was insane! It was insane to the point where that they had to pull the game off shelves because they had to increase servers sizes. Imagine making too much money being your issue? What a good problem to have. I bet both Remake and FF16 would’ve out performed 14 if they weren’t stuck on PS5

@jgkitarel

11 күн бұрын

@@NamelessCat77 No, no they wouldn't. 14 has the benefit of being an MMO, meaning that it targets a much wider demographic and is compatible with a LOT more systems on account of its age. Would they have done better by being multiplatform? Probably. Would they have recouped the much higher costs in money and time that come with designing for multiplatform unless they used an engine specifically designed for multiplatform use like Unreal Engine? That is harder to tell. And you have to consider the fact that their primary market is not composed of PC users and is, also, not us in the rest of the world. A Japanese company will make products primarily designed for the Japanese, even when said company has a global reach. Just as an American company develops primarily for an American marker. Any reach outside of that primary market is a bonus. We at the user level can say all we want, but we also don't have to factor in things like budget, development lead time, whether the development team is familiar with a specific tool, and so on. All we care about is the finished product.

My worry about this is whatever Nomura said a year ago about "something happened that changed the direction of the KH series," might not actually be happening anymore due to this. Especially if it involved "side" KH games like Verum Rex.

@Nyla_emotes

15 күн бұрын

I believe Nomura was very busy with FF7 rebirth, but I am not concerned for any KH title. It is one of their hugest series so I think this will actually be super beneficial and we will finally have not to wait for decades between KH games. Let's hope for the best!

@ergastolo4281

12 күн бұрын

Sweet Baby

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Sad to hear that, because this means almost instant death for Star Ocean 3 :(

Some of those games like the original FF7 have had literal multiple decades to build up those sales numbers and countless ports. FF7 Remake, by comparison, has only been out for a few years and will continue to push sales due to each new episode.

Resident Evil 2 remake was simultaneously released on PS4, Xbox One, and PC. That's the problem. Final Fantasy games keep coming out on PS5 exclusive which dramatically limits the sales potential. I do not think games released on PC months or years later do as well as they would have if released day one multi platform.

This "modern audience" they keep makimg games for don't really seem to buying games.

@paledrake

14 күн бұрын

Square's dilemma is that they want to gain sales comparable to their old school era where FF7 sold 13 mil. They see that current FF, KH and DQ sales and while they're good they're not reaching the double mil digits. Thus they try to pander to what is "hip" at the moment, hence we get failures like foam stars, avengers, forespoken and babylon's fall. Honestly I'm not sure what I would do in their shoes. The best they can is stick to their guns (FF, KH and DQ) and maybe experiment from time to time with a new unique title. Also wtf happened to Nier/Drakengard? Is Yoko Taro in a coma? The Nier mobile game is getting shut down (thank god) so what is he cooking now?

Finally! I think this is amazing news. They should def focus on their "important" titles. Maybe this will mean we will get a DLC for FF7Rebirth and some news on Kingdom Hearts 4/Verum Rex. I am honestly very happy of this decision!!!

@armorvil

14 күн бұрын

It's not "amazing news" just for the fact that it means they probably cancelled Front Mission 3 Remake. It was very stupid of them to remake the first and the second one, it was obvious they wouldn't sell much since the real masterpiece that old fans wanted has always been the third one... It also means that they'll lean even more on copying what sells, so they'll stop experimenting. It really looks like this company has been ran by monkeys for the last ~20 years and they still have trouble understanding what people buy from them. This is what happens when you fire all your good writers and good game designers.

@Acesinz

12 күн бұрын

Square lost its shine ages ago after Final Fantasy 10 (won’t include FF14 as its a MMORPG). They should have never went towards a different direction. So silly that they have a good turn based battle system so unique and completely ditched it. Thats like Fortnite completely getting rid of it’s building feature.

Square enix needs to look at Yoshi P for how to manage games. hire more people like him, if there are any.

Triple Triad Online mobile game. Connect with people, daily rule shifts, and actually Lose cards when you lose matches, win cards when you win matches. Have a card library where all cards ever obtained can be viewed again, even if lost. Work in various ff heroes, villains, monsters. Deck building around magical / physical / monster attacks. Usualy gacha gimmics, buy mystery cards, daily log in card draws, rare card draws after a week, legendary card draw after a month.

triangle strategy and harvestella were really good experiences for me. But yeah i understand that too much quantity is detrimental to quality. I just hope they don't abandon smaller but more unique games.

@haruhisuzumiya6650

14 күн бұрын

Triangle strategy would be an indie game

What I got from a lot of people on twitter, even people that are Squenix audience is that they really have no idea how widespread their release schedule has been for a couple of years now. The amount of low effort games has been huge like Harvestella, Valkarye Profile, etc. Smaller live service games like Chocobo GP, First Soldier and their other mobile stuff, not to mention NFT trash like Symbegenesis. They threw all the wet papers at the wall and wanted to see what sticks. These problems are of their own making because of Matsuda and other leaders. With the restructuring and new approach to improve their situation, I hope they eventually can handle mid tier games that don’t cost a lot and are faster to develop. They also need to cut the exclusivity crap for console and digital distribution and improve their marketing strategy overall (hey look a FF7 Porsche) cool I guess.

@Ukaran

14 күн бұрын

"They also need to cut the exclusivity crap for console and digital distribution" Why?

@MikeJones__Who

14 күн бұрын

People who complain about exclusivity don't understand that there's a good business reason why it's done. In FF7Rs case, Sony subsided the development of that franchise, which is why they get dibs in an attempt to sell more consoles. Plus, it's a 6 month deal, so it gives a potential 2nd boost on sales, and it helps the team to focus on the main story first...then port over 2nd.

@filipecordeiro7109

14 күн бұрын

@@MikeJones__Who well we can clearly see after all the crap thats happening for the last couple years at SE that those "good" financial reasons are very much NOT worth it, so at this point might aswell cut it of and go full scope, exclusivity is a great idea on paper in a vacumm, but it assumes an unchanging amount of circunstances that as we all know real life has a tendency to not let happen. The potential 2nd boost in sale might not exist in 6 months, people might have moved on, it also makes the hype die down so people that would have bought the game 6 months back dont do it now, and thats without counting the fact that a lot of people dont buy games that were exclusive out of principle alone, exclusivity assumes people, their circunstances and stances on things dont change and that is obviously not gonna fly irl

@Plasmacat1

14 күн бұрын

@@MikeJones__Who on they are stable again, the best they can do is be like Capcom. Exclusivity doesn’t help the games or the consumer at all. FF7 Temake project got greenlit over 10 years ago when exclusivity made sense. Now? It hurts everyone. The attach rate for games in the PS5 is horrible and Nintendo lives in their own universe but I hope they at least can make versions of the games for the Switch successor.

@axinhedgelion8417

13 күн бұрын

@@Plasmacat1I honestly hope all SE games are exclusive to PlayStation. Just to prove a point that exclusives need to come back.

The worst part is the cancellation of (unnamed) ongoing projects that is best to remain unnamed for our sanity sake... :(

What game is this at 0:29? I don't recognize this one.

@glutebrute1259

12 күн бұрын

The latest Star Ocean title

@noctesig

12 күн бұрын

@@glutebrute1259thanks!

I hope we get another FF game like 16 and for them to continue the Valkyrie games and to get some news on verum Rex. One of my favorite things about square enix games is that a lot of them combine magic with sword fighting

@paledrake

14 күн бұрын

If they every try something like FF16 again I hope the combat doesn't devolve into "break the enemy and spam all your nukes". I had the most fun before the Bahamut fight and after that the game went downhill fast. Also it's blatantly obvious that BU3 struggles to make open world areas and side quests as they share the same issues as FF14. The open world is mostly empty and the quests are uninteresting. Only a few handfuls at the beginning and near the end were compelling in any way sadly and that wasn't due to the gameplay. Either their side-content writing and presentation needs to improve or they should just follow the example of Elden Ring and Dragon's Dogma 2 of making an explorable open world with lots of dungeons and unique/engaging enemies.

The 2 series im most worried about that took the hit is the Star Ocean franchise and the Chrono series. If those 2 got canceled, i would be very torn up, as they are very much AA series but are incredibly fun and historic franchises even if they are overshadowed by FF, DQ and KH.

@mikev8746

14 күн бұрын

Chrono series? Nothing has come out in decades lol. If you're referring to a remake. That would be high profile enough given the company history that they wouldn't dare cancel it.

@Kaze91

14 күн бұрын

@@mikev8746 i am def talking about either a new game or a remake. Which they have asked directly about to the fans more recently. I am aware that the last thing Chrono series has had are just ports with more content, ala ds.

@mikev8746

12 күн бұрын

@@Kaze91 I mean a new game probably was never going to be made. A remake sure. But I think that was recently mentioned somewhere where one of the creators talked about being open to that one day. He clearly made it sound like it wasn't in the works yet.

@Kaze91

12 күн бұрын

@@mikev8746 recently, they basically were saying a new chrono game could be on the table. But wanted to test the waters with a small remake to see if there was a demand.

I hope it doesn't mean it will cancel the last part of final fantasy 7 remake

So question is, does SE need to make game like "Saga Emerald" ever again if that was the issue? Also if visions of mana not selling well, the series will be scraped too?

They desperately need to get rid of their ethics department for one

@The_Phoenix_Saga

14 күн бұрын

Amen!

@ashikenshin

14 күн бұрын

This

@mauriciosalazar2289

14 күн бұрын

NO, their ethics department hasnt anythibg that bad...using consultants like SBI woulf be worse.

@Seras99

14 күн бұрын

I think they like… quietly closed it months ago. Or hide it and like, possibly downsize it to just a in name only unit and is only there just as a smaller role then it was originally designed. Luckily, it doesn’t seem like it affected every Square title so far…

@vladtepes1047

13 күн бұрын

Is the Woke in the room with us right now?

I'm good with quality over quantity, but I still want that Dragon Quest III 2D-HD Remake. And my Octopath Traveler games. And hopefully good stuff for Nintendo's next console.

@kevinramirez3134

14 күн бұрын

Square needs to first unhook themselves from Sony's dog leash.

@pablocasas5906

13 күн бұрын

The only games from Square-Enix that I can think will come out for the next Switch are going to be Dragon Quest and Team Asano games, I don't expect S-E to release a mainline Final Fantasy game or even a high-budgeted spin-off on the system, at best we'll probably see some ports of titles like the FF XIII trilogy, XV and perhaps FFVII Remake. Kingdom Hearts is a series that would be a good fit on Nintendo platforms, but it depends a lot on Disney's decision

@kevinramirez3134

13 күн бұрын

@@pablocasas5906, And that's why Square Enix will continue to suffer massive losses. Also, nobody likes the FF13 trilogy. That's what started the downfall of Square Enix. You even sound like a Sony fanboy.

@pablocasas5906

13 күн бұрын

@@kevinramirez3134 relax, I haven't owned a Sony console since the PS2, I'm just an observer. It's just that I'm not sure what Square-Enix has in mind for the next few years. I'm sure that their Dragon Quest titles like III's HD-2D Remake and XII are safe, though we haven't heard anything new from them in quite a while, but Dragon Quest is a series that have always favored Nintendo consoles, with the exceptions of VII and VIII, so I'm pretty sure they'll release those games in development on the Switch's successor. We still aren't sure how powerful the Switch 2 is going to be, but I can't imagine S-E making AAA games for it, even if it's more powerful than a PS4 Pro or Xbox One X. I'm sure there plenty of Team Asano games, and ports of current gen games like Visions of Mana

I'm confused, why did you reference cancelled games specifically? The way I've read this, and other media legal literature, points to abandonment losses referencing IP abandonment -- owned IP not utilized thus penalized.

The funniest thing is even bandai namco (elden ring publisher) is also adopting the same strategy. The japanese gaming industry is having a rough time. Their mobile games are also losing to china

This is great news indeed for Square fans. Garbage like Forspoken and Valkyrie Elysium (from the pov of a Valkyrie profile fan) did enough damage to their brand name as it is. And spreading themselves thin with Avengers and whatnot will not make them into the omega studio they fancy themselves as, but rather as the Wallmart of studios: a little bit of everything but no one's first choice for anything of substance.

@StillWeRide

15 күн бұрын

Yo I love Valkerie Elysium😂😂 Game is cool as fuck

@ahmadrunningwild85

14 күн бұрын

​​@@StillWeRideI agree. It's good actually. And tbf Lenneth and Silmeria's story is over. Hence, the new generation of Valkyries in Elysium

@robertjones3489

14 күн бұрын

"spreading themselves thin", exactly the board's conclusion. And FF7 Remake's development justifies that conclusion too, with how it began with a small team, which over time pulled in more and more of the original's developers, all determined to escape dead-end projects and be part of something great. Nomura had said to them... "We will end the FF7 franchise with Doomguy." Square's squabble of project managers surrendered, abandoning their own goals to share one: TO NOT FAIL DOOMGUY. Like a fire vacuuming all the oxygen from a building, his army expanded unimpeded by politics, meetings, or budget concerns. And now even the top brass admits it has given up on its futile, self-serving strategy to fund projects in the pursuit of replacing dreamers like Nomura, to whom the company owes its success, with obedient corporate-ruled labor. Nomura promised his "bosses" Chaos through Jack Garland, his Doomguy, and look how right he was. Now that is power.

@synch8408

14 күн бұрын

@@StillWeRide hahaha sorry mate, was in a mood when writing that comment. It's just that going from story/character driven games to a Genshin clone felt like a bait and switch for someone like me who adores VP1 and 2.

@KurosakiRuka

14 күн бұрын

So pissed that their Avengers have robbed their Gurdians of the galaxy from sales

I pray that this isn't the death knell for the rumored FFT remaster

So any guesses as to which bigger budgeted project(s) was/were canned alongside a bunch of mid/low budget tier games to achieve that 140M figure? My best guess is FFIX remake, it's been in the Nvidia leak since forever and we haven't heard anything.

I remember when video games didn’t follow a trend, it was about the fun you could have, the many stories you could get lost in, the many characters that left a long lasting impression. It didn’t need to be flashy and shiny, it just needed to be good. Culture and visuals have effected this industry greatly, trying to reach a broad audience in the quest to appease share holders, I just wish we could experience the golden age of gaming again

@Acesinz

12 күн бұрын

100% mate Square had a Winning formula and then completely lost its roots thats why its such a dump.

FFVII Re: trilogy will sell well over time. Its just due to its current circumstance as a ps exclusive and a sequel that it wont reach immediate sales. Once all three games are out and bundled and available on PC etc, then it will get a boost in sales. Just take a look at FFX/X-2 compiled sales over all platforms and bundles, 20 million! Rebirth can reach that eventually.

@Octopusique

15 күн бұрын

I hope that will be the case. Love both FFVII Re games, especially Rebirth which I think is a polished AAA title.

@NiteF0X

14 күн бұрын

Depends if they stick the landing with the ending. This can backfire on them just as easily.

@mikev8746

14 күн бұрын

I mean a decade ago their dev team struggled making a good game and it was never rated 90 +. They now have great capable dev teams and FF games have started reviewing well. Their sales aren't even bad and if you look at FF7R and FF16 they are already much better successes than the drama at launch people spelled out for both titles. It's just not selling insanely well. But really FF is all SE has. It's their biggest IP ignoring things like DS and KH. They have to double down on this somehow. Accepting FF7 Remake Series won't sell crazy numbers out of the gate but will achieve the company multiple set goals over the long term is the way to go.

@paledrake

14 күн бұрын

Honestly I think the PS exclusivity is killing the hype big time. Maybe it was fine for the first game since it was on PS4 which had a huge playerbase + nostalgia. But having the 2nd game be exclusive on PS5 was a bad call. The Sony money better be worth it. IMO they should've had a huge FF7 Remake pc sale a good bit before FF7 Rebirth and then released it on all platforms. I bet it would sell a lot better that way. But who knows, maybe the Sony money is actually worth it.

@mikev8746

12 күн бұрын

@@paledrake I think the Sony thing helped with more than just money. Developer knowhow, marketing, platform focus etc. It adds up. But it also makes it tricky for them post launch if the numbers aren't insane. Again PS5 should have had 80 mil by now if the covid thing didn't happen. Maybe that would have made FF7 numbers look instantly better until the inevitable PC release. Again kind of like Remake. But even that game wasn't selling crazy. I remember the articles. Which is funny because apparently now it did 7 mil. So who's to say that after all 3 parts are released they don't all pull a respective 7-10 million. That's 30 million copies sold for one game series lol.

I've played a lot of Squeenix games over the years and there are a few that I wanted to play but I have enough self control to wait for them to hit my platform rather than spend a crap ton of money on a PS5. Seriously, enough with the damn exclusives, I'm not buying a PS5 there's literally no reason for me to do that.

@kevinramirez3134

14 күн бұрын

Agreed. Same here.

@paledrake

14 күн бұрын

As someone with a PS5 you're making the right choice. The only good thing I'm getting out of this damn console is it running Bloodborne at a stable 30fps. Fuck Sony.

Putting all your eggs in one basket has it's own set of risks If it fails for whatever reason, they have nothing to save them

Nobody missed much with FF16, aka Game of Thrones May Cry No RPG Elements Edition

FF7 Rebirth is a masterpiece, how is this game not selling more????? 😮

@Drawerofstuff00

15 күн бұрын

People have seemingly progressively gotten worse taste in fiction in the past 30 years.

@ChaseVonnegut

15 күн бұрын

I have friends who want to play it but are still on PS4 systems.

@Rainmaker1O

15 күн бұрын

@@Drawerofstuff00 or maybe the fact that the original story of FF7 will be a split in 3 games is not helping.

@RobertLewis85

15 күн бұрын

I don't have PS5 yet or I'd check it out, Remake wasn't a great game imo

@ZeldaFan2004

15 күн бұрын

I'd say that it being stuck on PS5 at the moment is a big barrier. Releasing it on an exclusive console will result in lower sales numbers. And since there is such a long delay for it to be brought to other platforms (PC), many people just watch let's plays of the game for the story when it is exclusive and then don't see a point to buy the game years later and play it themselves when it is finally released on a platform that they want to play it on. Resident Evil 2 Remake is a good comparison. Look at all of the platforms that game is on. It was released on PS4, XBox One, and PC in 2019, and then PS5, XBox Series X, and Switch three years later. That's 6 ways to play that game in 3 years. Remake has half that, and 2 of the three is PS4 and PS5. You are not reaching new audiences there. If square wants their sales numbers to be higher, they need to stop this exclusivity stuff with PlayStation. It is only hurting them. PC version needs to be available at launch at minimum with XBox support coming quickly there after.

Unfortunately this probably means no Harvestella 2. A shame since it has the best story Squenix has put out in a long time. Excellent OST as well.

Not being able to buy a physical copy of PS4 Pixel Remaster was such a shot in the foot.

@GrumpyCat97

14 күн бұрын

all FF pixel remaster combined will weight less than 1gb, so the disc basically be empty

@se7enity648

11 күн бұрын

Square-Enix should concentrate on what people want and not what they don’t.

Tbf this happens because of gamers' unrealistic expectations.

I'm hopeful too. Focus on fewer better games in core franchises, with the occasional new IP. The Capcom effect

Rebirth is what i always dreamed of as a FFVII remake. Only true FFVII fans can appreciate how magical this masterpiece is.

@stephenschneekloth1535

14 күн бұрын

It has 2 issues. 1 - Way to many mini games (you can skip them so only a Platinum hunter issue) and 2 - its only on PlayStation which limits its availability and therefore its sales.

@carbxncle

14 күн бұрын

Lol. Lmao, even.

@ailithtwinning6806

14 күн бұрын

really? I've only played the first remake cause pc but just . . I hated it. the worst, for me, was the 'camerwork' tbh, so much of the game is basically a tv show and the guy in charge of the camera kept going "No don't show that beautiful vista, hips lips and tits" Also that idiot on the motorbike. It's a half hour dick joke and it suuuucks. But mostly: They stretched 4 hours into 40 and the whole dragged from start to finish, more obviously so because of the tight corridor level design that, like XIII, took X's direct pathing just one degree too far and soiled the fun somehow. I kinda wanna know what;s in the second one since it's a departure from the original story but also. . . I didn't like anything new for the first part of the remake except the finale itself. I don't have high hopes for the rest.

@xarfiz

14 күн бұрын

It also my dream game until they make Seprioth into some kind gay stalker wtf they kill my favorite villain of all time

@fabesey2016

14 күн бұрын

@@xarfiz To me he's an evil ASMR content creator.

They shouldn't cut out the sleeper hits though like TWEWY. I want more of that.

@ECOTecJeff83

13 күн бұрын

well i dont think that will be canceled but far as a chrono trigger remake might as well say bye to that will probably get some kind of remaster like pixel.

@AresSG

13 күн бұрын

@@ECOTecJeff83 Nah Chrono Trigger is also too popular. I think that'll be fine too.

I remember hearing something similar to this a few months ago, and I've always seen it as great news. It really feels like a waste how they were spending time and resources to develop throw away games. Since this means more time and resources put into fewer titles it gives me hope that their standard of quality is going to increase for both small titles and big releases. Hearing that they'll focus on what they're best at makes me think back to the SNES and PS1 days where they were releasing hit after hit and almost everything was great quality. Feeling optimistic about it.

I understand why SE would want to focus more on a couple titles, rather than releasing many games that may not benefit them in the long run. As you said yourself NSP, quality over quantity. I feel like after they are in a comfortable position with their new approach, they can slowly expand into making newer titles.(emphasis on slowly) I can't wait to see how they will handle the marketing of the third part of the Final Fantasy VII trilogy!🙌🏽✨️ I cross my fingers that their strategy works out!😊 As usual, thanks for keeping us informed NSP!❤

@urazz7739

15 күн бұрын

They need to reign in the advertising budgets of their AAA games regardless. They also don't need to upgrade the graphics every single game or build them up from scratch every game.

@dtho16

14 күн бұрын

Most likely if they come out with a banger for the ff7 trilogy the entire ff7 trilogy will sell like hotcakes from word of mouth and will entrique a lot of new comers to play the trilogy and by then it will be out on hopefully PC and not just the ps5

It's a little frustrating to see people cite this as another failure of the AAA industry. When in fact, as you pointed out, many of these games were AA. And in my opinion, Rebirth sets the bar for what modern AAA games should be.

PSA: play remake before rebirth. Supports SE's FF team. While you're at it support the KH team also

Forspoken and Foam Stars got made but not FFX-3....... SquareEnix was very clearly suffering from a lack of direction or realization of what SE fans actually want. Also, I think the Final Fantasy sale slump is due to a loss of confidence in the IP after a run of mediocre to straight up bad FF games. (Looking at you 13 and 15)

I think overall this is great. But I am worried about DQ3R, FF9R and TacticsR. I really want to see these games come to fruition.

@user-fc5sq1jy5m

14 күн бұрын

Final fantasy will probably always be safe over there lol. Everything else however.... I can't be sure about 😂

@satyamSaha

14 күн бұрын

⁠@@user-fc5sq1jy5mDragon Quest is extremely popular in Japan so I doubt anything Dragon Quest related is getting cancelled

@paledrake

14 күн бұрын

If they're in the pipeline I think they're safe. They're flagship titles, they're not gonna shut those down.

I truly believe this announcement is directly related to the tremendous backlash gamers are throwing at the “woke” agenda leeching into the industry. SE sees people lashing out against SBI (see: Suicide Squad), censorship (see: Stellar Blade), and retconning lore for the sake of inclusivity (see: Warhammer), and SE wants absolutely nothing to do with it anymore. They saw how their “diverse” titles like Forespoken failed so hard that it became a meme, so they want to focus on the IPs which made them the company they are (Final Fantasy, DragonQuest, Nier, etc.).

@Ukaran

14 күн бұрын

LOL Get out of your bubble.

@winshifter

14 күн бұрын

Honestly, I don't think they have learned that lesson yet, I'm sure they'll try it again latter or probably change one of their existing IPs to still try DEI and hire SBI like companies to "appeal" to western markets...and if they even dare to stray away from it, I bet Sony will "invite them" to add some DEI or hire SBI like companies or will not pay for development fees or something along the lines like what happened with Shift Up in Korea. If they have really learned that lesson, excellent, they have started to go the right direction, if not, they will keep failing. Add to it that they still always have this unrealistic expectations about any game they release. If a game costs them 100 million, they expect it to be a billion to call it a success, even if they make 300 million in profit, they will assume it was a flop or at best a moderate success, and that has been their problem for more than a decade.

I wanna see the pc sales when they happen- I think since a lot of people (myself included) upgraded our pcs since parts got cheaper again and ps5 is already in it's mid cycle, people are just waiting. I just can't help but feel console exclusivity overall has a negative impact on sales. Palworld, Helldivers, Baldurs gate 3..(while not immediately was rather quickly available multi platform) and those are just 3 examples that did gang busters.

As long as my beloved Star Ocean series is gonna be ok, they can do whatever. This is probably gonna be ok tho

@starknightlumina8680

8 күн бұрын

Luckily the CEO does like Star Ocean games, so that gives me hope that the series will continue. The Divine Force and Second Story R might have done enough positive numbers to keep making more games.

With the rise of handheld PCs and with Japan’s market being more into portable gaming, they really should start considering day 1 releases for pc.

@mauriciosalazar2289

14 күн бұрын

Steamdeck has only sold 2% of what the switch has. So switch 2 os a must. I dont think day 1 on PC is realistic if you want a good port, but 3 to 6 months latter would be posible and also an extra boost for hype.

@UnderTheIceburg

14 күн бұрын

@@mauriciosalazar2289 You can absolutely do quality day1 PC ports, the problem is that exclusivity deals on the huge releases are often a huge part of how games get the financing they need to begin with.

@ugoboom

14 күн бұрын

@@mauriciosalazar2289 porting aint like it used to be where you had to rewrite major parts of the game engine ff7R uses unreal engine for example, and UE handles so much of the porting job for you.

@paledrake

14 күн бұрын

Japan has basically moved away from console/pc games. It's all about mobile, especially gachas.

@mauriciosalazar2289

13 күн бұрын

@@paledrake Not exactly, the japaness marget has growth wuth the switch

I just so hope Dragon quest 3's 2D/HD remake is NOT ONE of the canceled games since it still doesn't HAVE a release date.

@kpsk8031

15 күн бұрын

Same here. Mainline DQ is the only reason I haven't completely given up on Squenix.

@Tenebris8444

15 күн бұрын

prolly not, they know DQ will sell a lot

@gamerprince-tl5hg

14 күн бұрын

Bro. It's Dragon Quest 3. One of the most beloved games in Japan. It's absolutely not one of them that was cancelled.

@jaretco6423

13 күн бұрын

I don't think they'll canceled Dragon Quest 3: 2D-HD Remake. For one thing, Hori is not letting them go and is tributing Akira Toriyama & Sugiyama for helping make the series. And secondly, it's one of the most beloved game in Japan; if not, the moat beloved game in Japan & it is responsible for innovating RPG'S that we come to know to this day.

Great video and analysis. I think the industry needs AA games, but I don’t think SqEx needs to be making them or buying up other publishers that would. I would love to see another company formed to handle AA titles and ports. I know another company was involved in the Star Ocean 2 remake and that seemed to work out well. Could be a good strategy for more games like that.

I think a point ppl are leaving out is that the remake of FF7 is dropping in 3 parts. So to compare it to resident evil 2 remake sales (which was one game), would we not have to consider the sales for all 3 parts of the FF7 remake tallied up? 🤔 just a thought

@Psyk60

14 күн бұрын

If you're counting all 3 parts as a single game, that meas if someone buys a copy of all 3 parts that should only count as one sale. It makes RE2 Remake's sales look even better in comparison. But I don't think it makes much sense to look at it that way. Whether you see it as 3 games or 3 parts of 1 game, the fact is each part has the budget of a full game. So from a business perspective they care about the sales as individual games.

@kingwhodat1848

13 күн бұрын

@Psyk60 i hear where you're coming from. But then dont we also have to consider the fact that you buy resident evil you get the whole story. You don't get the full story for FF7R unless you buy all parts. Cheeky/smart business in regards to FF7 fans. Maybe square enix doesn't care as much about sales per part 🤔

Stranger of Paradise is the best non mainline FF game ever released and you CANNOT convince me otherwise

@satyasyasatyasya5746

14 күн бұрын

I wouldn't say the best, but its hella underrated

@DrCoomer_1

14 күн бұрын

@@satyasyasatyasya5746 Chaos

@justinwhite2725

14 күн бұрын

I agree except only that it is terribly optimized on PC and becomes borderline unplayable on the top gaming spec for the time it was released.

They are cancelling a lot of their A and AA games development. That is bad because it means less risk.

@Infectedjohn

14 күн бұрын

That is good, all their AA games were trash, some woke, some low quality, all not worth the time.

@extra4542

14 күн бұрын

It’s good. Why? Because those lower titles were mostly trash

@MrInuhanyou123

13 күн бұрын

@@extra4542 nier A was a AA game. The solution is making better lower budget games. Not throwing the concept of lower budget games out. Riding only on major titles is unsustainable

@MrInuhanyou123

13 күн бұрын

@@Infectedjohn nier A was a AA game. The solution is making better lower budget games. Not throwing the concept of lower budget out. SE is in a lot more danger now with one bad selling product able to tank a higher portion of their income with no fallback products to stem the hit

@Infectedjohn

13 күн бұрын

@@MrInuhanyou123 you may want to impose your opinion like that, but they don't give a rat's ass about your opinion, they take decisions based on the sales and they point to a different direction than what you want I guarantee you that. You can complain all you want to random people online but that is not going to accomplish anything.

Star Ocean 6 was my favourite game in 2022 and ff too i think they should focus on making games similar to this or more kingdom hearts xx

As someone who's favorite square series this makes me worry I'll never get another one ik they had to work at management for years to make neo happen

Hear me out: medieval dark fantasy style Helldivers 2 but with Final Fantasy characters and villains. Over-the-top action with tons of character customization + materia. Filled with classic status effects, elemental weaknesses, summons, etc.

@daesong1378

14 күн бұрын

Do you mean like hell divers PVE model “the first soldier” with FF7R combat ?

@The_Phoenix_Saga

14 күн бұрын

Sounds awfully like Dissidia to me... oh they ditched that one though for a cheap rip attempt at Egaming.

@CrimsonRayne

14 күн бұрын

A super version of dissidia huh

@CrowsofAcheron

14 күн бұрын

What would this have to do with Helldivers?

@daesong1378

14 күн бұрын

@@CrowsofAcheron I’m thinking he’s just talking about the dynamic pve aspect of helldivers

Square Soft a great company with great writers. Square Enix an awful company with terrible writers.

@paledrake

14 күн бұрын

Pretty much sums it up. For every FF7 Remake we get a Forspoken. For every Shadowbringers we get an Endwalker...

I think another flaw was not putting games on the biggest market. PC gaming. Smash hits like FF16 and FF7 be even bigger had they released along side their console counter parts. As people with lower spec computers could opt for consoles where as PC gamers could get the games they really want to play. Like for example Dragon Quest Monsters could have been a big hit as Palworld sort of took the PC gaming market by storm for being a monster collectable that for once didn't kinda suck. DQM could have had that success if it wasn't limited by the Switch.

I always believed in Quality over Quantity no matter how good some of these side title releases are the bottom line is that somehow the big name counsels and Gaming company's just need to concentrate on the big name titles because they are the Heart and Soul for hard core gamers like me❤

Take Yoko Taro, give him money and you have an award winner multi million sales AA game, problem solved.

And u people all cried about ff16s sales, ff16 was a masterpiece and im glad it sold well

@lucasromerova6150

15 күн бұрын

it didn't sell well though lol. Resident Evil 2 sold well. And not XVI is not a Masterpiece its solid but not a masterpiece. Rebirth is closer to a masterpeice and sold less.

@Baardnick

15 күн бұрын

masterpiece? jeez. it was pretty bad. production value was good, but game design was terrible.

@seabicuit7247

15 күн бұрын

RE 2 isn’t a good comparison due to it being a multiplatform game. But I would agree that a masterpiece is a bit of a stretch.

@georgetek

15 күн бұрын

What do you mean by you people?

@Baardnick

15 күн бұрын

@@seabicuit7247 sry, im out of context. I just saw "ffxvi masterpiece". video not watched yet, but sure indeed re2 is a multiplat game and ofc should never be compared to an rpg franchise :p

I agree. Games like star ocean 6 could have used a bigger budget instead of using the money for more games people probably wont play

Thank you being so kind all mighty all knowing God help me and these people to better understand you

Having these Final Fantasies only on PS5 was not a good idea.

@dcpunisher4781

5 күн бұрын

PC of course would bolster sales, but Xbox is NOTHING. Xbox fanboys since the beginning, since 2002, have been known as just Pew Pew Pew Shooter-types, so RPG games really gain no foothold on the Xbox platforms.

It sucks ff7 rebirth doesn’t deserve to underperform you see other companies putting out trash and they fail and a game that Comes out and is universally loved should be successful. It sucks other people can’t recognize a good game.

@lostvayne9146

14 күн бұрын

remember this and remember well. You get what you pay for. If the people what sht. They will get sht.

@sterlingdavis8244

14 күн бұрын

I was fed up with Nomura's typical Kingdom Hearts BS when the Time Jannies showed up. Killed my interest in any sequels to a game that never should have been chopped up into 3 parts to be further cynically milked by the company.

@karemali6941

14 күн бұрын

@@sterlingdavis8244 you don’t have to like nomuras games that’s fine and it’s your opinion but my point is rebirth is quality and they are making it a trilogy because they wanted to expand the ff7 world more then what did in the og and doing that in one game would be impossible and I love the new games and I played the og recently and it just makes me more excited for the final game no matter what they do.

I'll say this and I'll stick with it. FF's biggest problem is no day1 pc release. By the 6 month of 1 year mark, the hype is gone even if the pc port is good, you lost that initial release hype. Good day1 pc releases would almost certainly boost sales

I look at this as a double edged sword. Yeah they're probably getting rid of some AA games that wouldn't have sold well, but I think a lot of their financial troubles have more to do with their overambitious AAA games than those. Way too many AAA games these days have bloated budgets that they cannot recoup and these companies need to get these budgets under control. Maybe they should actually invest in more indie to AA games and keep the AAA releases to the series like Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy that they know will sell well. Even then did 7R need to be 3 games. I get the feeling that stretching out it's development over 3 games and 15+ years is going to lead to large audience drop off by the time the 3rd game comes out that it won't be profitable in the end and they may at best break even with this project. In my opinion it would have been better to do a more faithful single game remake instead, and I'm really hoping 9's remake is like that. Heck I kind of want that remake to be a AA game along the lines of the recent Mana games as well because it doesn't need to be as overproduced as 7R is especially since it's a much more cartoony game.

If they cancelled FF9 remake - i’m about to riot!!!

@Ukaran

14 күн бұрын

There is no FF9 remake. There never was. Wake up.

- Stop talking about dumb sht like NFTs - Get rid of the internal bloat and politics inside your company, economics has proven if you get woke you go broke - Too many games being made at the same time with a majority of them getting little to no advertising

Yes this is good, but it's not that simple. The problem still remains: their larger games are not selling to their expectations. Rebirth is an example of a game that *should* have sold gangbusters, it did everything fans wanted, it was marketed very well, and gave gamers tons of value and content--YET it has not sold too well. Especially in a year that has not been the biggest year for top tier games so far, people should be flocking to Rebirth, at least for its open world and critical reception. But instead that is not the case. There are smaller reasons that could contribute to the lack of sales (people waiting for PC, not wanting to buy a sequel, etc), but there is no *big* reason and it's odd.

did you hear, they changeing the name of CBU3 (Creative Business Unit III) to CS3 (Creative Studio 3). ALSO Yoshi-P title from “General Manager of Creative Business Unit III,” his position is now “Studio Head of Creative Studio 3.”. i guess he really want to work on big game as a director not like FF16...