Gaming is a luxury that less and less people will be able to afford as prices spiral out of control on everything else.

@tobiesoftstudio823

15 күн бұрын

Well, depends on the person buying the console.

@Outrack

15 күн бұрын

Gaming is fine. The industry is expected to continue seeing significant growth, the problem is largely down to unsustainable practices and brand damage in the AAA sphere. Square is now paying for two decades of bad financial decisions.

@chozochiefxiii3298

15 күн бұрын

​@Outrack Also the fact that the new mass market demographic doesn't want games like this. Those players are playing cod, fortnite and free to play games. It's why pretty much every console exclusive flopped or barely broke even this generation. I think us true hardcore gamers at this point who enjoy niche genres and multiple genres just need to accept these companies do not care about us anymore.

@Outrack

15 күн бұрын

​@@chozochiefxiii3298 The current market is the same as the old one in that they just want fun and engaging experiences, the problem is more with the higher level of effort developers put into games with aggressive monetization against single-sales titles. Players have just become accustomed to expecting poor experiences from so-called "hardcore" games because that's kind of what we've been getting for a while now. From an industry perspective, I think it's a little disingenuous to say the current generation of consumers is the reason console exclusives have been struggling to break even - there are way more prevalent reasons with the most concerning being unsustainable practices and rampant over-expenditure. Spider-Man 2 being a prime example as they needed to sell 10 mil units before breaking even as they had a budget of $400m and 300+ staff; AAA studios are just far too large and they're trying to pass the burden of this onto the consumers by increasing unit cost instead of addressing the issue (contrary to what most people say, games aren't actually more expensive to make now - they only are because you have 20 people needlessly assigned to roles that used to require only 2). I'd also say that the companies do care, they're just being mindlessly run by "money" people that have little understanding of how the industry works which is why so many of the big houses are facing a collapse despite the industry being healthier than it's ever been. If you want hope, trends show that gen Z have started diving into retro games and find them genuinely more enjoyable than current offerings as they were made to be fun, and come without all of the nonsense plaguing games over the last 20 years (engagement figures, DLC incentives, etc)... All of the staff being let go aren't sitting idle, they're forming new companies with plans to produce middle-scale projects akin to the PS2 era, so we'll see a natural course correction within the next decade.

@UnderTheIceburg

15 күн бұрын

@@chozochiefxiii3298 This is kind of the catch-22 problem with modern AAA. The budgets are so huge that sales numbers must reach astronomical heights to break even, that the core player base simply isn't large enough to make the difference, so companies water down the product to "appeal to a wider audience." This is proving to be a misplaced approach because the "wider" audience only exists on Twitter, and the core audience ends up feeling ostracized and won't buy, and sales numbers fall.

It’s not all doom and gloom. Square Enix Japan will remain unaffected, and the push towards multiplatform will be a good thing in the long term.

@mikev8746

15 күн бұрын

This. The company is making good decisions here. No more AA crap. Indie or AAA focus. Now a push for multi plat which will grow audiences. All their studios are stacked with talent that release 85+ rated games. They seem to be aware of retaining that. FF14 is positioned to continue being the lifeblood of the company for the time being. I hate to be that guy but until US/EU devs show they can make good games again I will shrug whenever I see layoffs in this area of the world.

@guybeleeve

15 күн бұрын

@@mikev8746stop with the bs about Japanese developers, they can be just as trash as anyone else. Why else do you think that a vast majority of Japanese games never leave the country? They would tank due to them being half done or an extremely buggy mess.

@vincentmamotos9937

15 күн бұрын

FF sales have been declining in japan for the last 10 years.

@ttabood7462

15 күн бұрын

@@vincentmamotos9937 I haven't bought a FF game since 10 and I tried to get a refund on that one. I love FFXIV though.

@BlazeRothschild

14 күн бұрын

@@vincentmamotos9937 Exactly. People's tastes have changed. It's not about long, captivating, artistic stories anymore. Now it's all about these mobile games or battle royale shooting games. Fortnite is to this generation what FF7 OG was to the '90s generation. Just look at all the people who complain about the Remake trilogy just because of the pure fact it is in three parts. Most gamers now have the attention span of a fish, and I'm not exaggerating. It's the TikTok generation, and Square Enix's model is too old school.

Final Fantasy should be everywhere. When they lock it to one platform it limits the growth for the series, as not every gamer is just on one platform. You stagnate your audience when it’s limited from the get go.

@toaster4693

15 күн бұрын

Ff7 original was only on Playstation, and it became regarded as one of the greatest games of all time.

@justinwhite2725

15 күн бұрын

The original PlayStation had about 50 million units sold in 1997, and PC gaming was fairly niche and didn't have a large segment of the market share. PlayStation 5 has only about 10 million. PC is a larger share of the market - 60 percent of Helldivers 2 sales were on PC.

@shatterlss7814

15 күн бұрын

I agree. For years, there's been folks absolutely eviscerating me whenever I suggest that the exclusivity has been terrible for these games. They always would strike back: No, those players don't buy this kind of game, this is a better decision for resource allocation! Unfortunately, the market has now verified that they were wrong.

@justwait9822

15 күн бұрын

The audience that would increase the audience for ff the most is switch. Let's see how everyone likes it when the next ff game has to be constrained to work on a nintendo console.

@shatterlss7814

15 күн бұрын

​​@@justwait9822there are other ways to reach that audience though. For example, they released ever crisis on mobile as a gacha game. If they instead used those same assets for a faithful FF7 remake, I think they would have great success and have a model that can be replicated for games that would sell well, without fear of performance issues, and have the modern touches that gamers today expect.

Extremely bummed about the layoffs. I hope they bounce back ASAP

@77wolfblade

15 күн бұрын

They need to learn from their mistakes and try different tactics like capcom did.

@jefftheindianchief8279

15 күн бұрын

@@77wolfblade Capcom saw some form of recovery, but with Denuvo ruining their latest releases & their stance on modding as a whole, Capcom hasn't overcome their flaws to truly learn from their mistakes.

@MugiwarasNakama

15 күн бұрын

When they announced they were taking a loss on abandoned assets it was already set in stone that there would be layoffs. It is what it is.

@LanzTheMaster

15 күн бұрын

They as in people affected by the layoffs

@NetBattler

15 күн бұрын

​@@77wolfbladecrapcom isn't any better 😂

Literally every single company is going to have to adapt to the insane cost of living crisis. People are cancelling subscriptions, staying in, cutting back on entertainment etc. And if the outcome is companies across the board cut jobs (not just video game companies) then in aggregate sales will fall more as more people who tended to have disposable income won't have money. In short the snake is eating its tail and i don't think it's going to get better any time soon.

@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203

15 күн бұрын

That's why a war will reset everything and create post war booming economy. If you leave in western country, go far away, somewhere where they cant conscript you, it's happening soon.

@shatterlss7814

15 күн бұрын

"staying in" should help the game industry, if the games are good and engaging!

@kaylee42900

15 күн бұрын

@@shatterlss7814 not if you don't have the money to buy games. If people are cancelling 9.99 subscriptions, they aren't buying 5+ 80 dollar games a year. I lived through a similar time decades ago as a kid and you would get 1-2 video games a year (birthday and Christmas) and play the hell out of them.

@shatterlss7814

14 күн бұрын

@@kaylee42900 that's actually why I'm a big fan of Game Pass on Xbox. Sure, it's another subscription, but for $15/month I've got all my gaming needs covered. There will be a lot of different opinions on that though, I understand.

@angeldiaz762

14 күн бұрын

Considering each new game costs either $70 or 60, that makes it really hard. if two big releases are coming out, and I decide that I "must" have one, then the one I'm more excited about will have to win. When a new Cod or FIFA for example comes out every year, it's like, if we bought last year's game why the hell would we buy another one? I think the last full-price game - and definitely my last physical purchase - I got was Shin Megami Tensei V on the Switch. And I didn't even finish that game (yet.) Since then I haven't bought anything day one. I'm better off just waiting for a seasonal sale, or on PC a Steam sale, to buy.

So many people think Sqaure’s problems are with Sony, FF7 & FF16, spoiler alert.. it’s not. Square Enix has a huge catalog and a lot of those non-FF games have been duds. I do think that Square Enix needs to be on all platforms either way. Missing that PC launch is massive.

@darknesswave100

15 күн бұрын

For real I'm not even a pc guy but the whole console exclusivity thing needs to go and go now. I get that Microsoft and Sony are rivals and all that but shutting out an entire console worth of players seems to me like an idiotic business decision. If say ff7 rebirth sold 3 million copies on playstation think of how that number could triple at minimum if it was on all platforms. Companies need to get with the times and stop being so stubborn with their exclusives

@JJ-dm3lt

15 күн бұрын

When they directly fire the guy that green lit those titles... it states exactly the opposite of what you are stating the issue is. You wouldn't fire the person that made you money. SQE tried to chase action gaming and failed. SQE fans want RPGs/JRPGS. Not flashy action games.

@PlanetShlorpian

15 күн бұрын

​@darknesswave100 Fewer than 800,000 Xbox Series Xs were sold in the last quarter, its reported. What makes you think that tiny amount will make a difference? Xbox has an almost non-existent presence in Japan. I doubt mainline FF entries will come to Xbox considering how awful Xbox is doing, as other major publishers are even considering not putting games on Xbox anymore. Smaller HD2D titles will probably come to Xbox but beyond that it may not make sense for Square to put major FF titles on Xbox. We'll see though.

@sesamekitten5724

15 күн бұрын

@@PlanetShlorpianyou’re on crack if you think a major title that doesn’t have a exclusive deal with Sony won’t come to Xbox. That’s doesn’t even pass the laugh test

@ivanvillafuerte6241

15 күн бұрын

@@PlanetShlorpian Xbox sells less because fewer games are available. FF coming to Xbox will probably be announced in the June event and it will most likely drive sales that will in turn boost sales for FF. Heck, I know people who already own a PS5 and Final Fantasy XVI who would double down if it was coming to Xbox. FF exclusivity deals were harmful both for SE and Xbox, not only for SE.

I'll remain a Final Fantasy fan to the bitter end.

@akiraangelfire2127

15 күн бұрын

Not me they will never be able to put out 7remake level quality ever again if they have to cater to the switch. No thanks.

@ErenDenizMert

15 күн бұрын

​@@akiraangelfire2127Fr. F*ck switch

@jesseberg3271

15 күн бұрын

If they haven't lost me yet, I can't imagine what they could do to so now.

@Dark-Glaive

15 күн бұрын

​@@akiraangelfire2127Not me. They will never be able to make another good "Final Fantasy" ever again if they don't go back to what the Core Demographic wants with Turn Based Combat. Also the Bastardization of FF7's Story with the Sequel Reboot Nomura Fanfiction Timeline Multiverse was an immediate "F this shī I'm out" moment. If Square Enix wants to make "A Final Fantasy for Non-Final Fantasy Fans" then they can have their miniscule "Wide Audience". If I wanted Action Hack&Slash, I'd play DMC, Stellar Blade, Monster Hunter, God of War, Naraka, and all of the other Action Hack&Slash games. I play Final Fantasy to experience the Premier Turn Based JRPG Series.

@smokeldogg

15 күн бұрын

@@Dark-Glaive FF are about characters and story. Combat comes second.

actually, the 7R team stayed mostly intact. and it will probably be the same for part 3. the heads mentioned keeping the same staff greatly accelerated the production of rebirth due to specific skills and established workflow. go figure.

@revivedkyoumahououin1585

15 күн бұрын

Yeah idk id that's a good thing after they butchered the story

@kuksio92

15 күн бұрын

​@@revivedkyoumahououin1585 you do realize that most of the team has nothing to say about the story?

@revivedkyoumahououin1585

15 күн бұрын

@@kuksio92 You do realize that at the end of the day, they are selling a bad product that was market of its nostalgia to the fans like you and me so maybe they should have said something because naybe they would have kept their jobs?

@Diogo85

15 күн бұрын

​@@revivedkyoumahououin1585FF7R is mostly faithful to the original with a few extras.

@Diogo85

15 күн бұрын

​@@revivedkyoumahououin1585How is Final Fantasy VII Rebirth bad?

Hope the third upcoming FFvii remake game won’t be affected by the layoffs.

@ShirouBrando

15 күн бұрын

I highly doubt it

@darknesswave100

15 күн бұрын

Considering they've kept the same team for both remake and rebirth I doubt it. If they did lay off people from that team then they're fools

@patriotsfan122480

15 күн бұрын

I doubt it since it’s US and EU, and most of the work for part 3 is in Japan (obviously not all of it when you’ve got dubs to work out and translate). Still sucks and hope those affected are able to quickly land on their feet elsewhere.

@MEPSIPAX826

15 күн бұрын

It won’t. The layoffs are only happening in the US and Europe.

@TheEffectOfMass

15 күн бұрын

i'm sure they're doing everything in their power to make sure Part 3 isn't impacted. I think it's their all or nothing, a hail mary if you will, of a game.

if ff16 was released on pc alongside ps5 on day one, it would sell very well and performance would have been better. They should release remake part 3 on pc day one too

@Zoeila

15 күн бұрын

You massively overestimate the PC markett

@EldritchErik94

15 күн бұрын

@@ZoeilaActually, you are underestimating the PC market.

@Dwellerinshadow

15 күн бұрын

This... they keep leaving money on the table and not releasing on pc (or worse, making it epic exclusive, looking at you KH3) Stop with the fucking exclusivity deals squeenix and you might start making money again.

@kimlee6643

15 күн бұрын

@@Zoeila Elden Ring has 10+ million units "shipped" on PC. Palworld is close to 20 million. Do not underplay how big a platform PC is.

@shh532

15 күн бұрын

@@Zoeila 60% of HD2 sales were on PC. It would have been a fairly passable launch on PS alone, PC pushed HD2 into Sonys all time top 10. PS is a dead market.

Good news is if they’re sticking with Unreal as their primary engine going forward, it’s quite scaleable. Hopefully that means the scope of games that are designed with the Switch 2 in mind don’t take too big of a hit.

Sony exclusivity is always been dumb

@darknesswave100

15 күн бұрын

Exclusivity in general has always been stupid imo. They're limiting their sales to a specific console and wondering why sales aren't high

@gligarguy4010

15 күн бұрын

@@darknesswave100 Third party exclusivity, yes. First party exclusivity is important tho

@gabrielcunha2260

15 күн бұрын

The numbers of xbox consoles that were sold is very low compared to Playstation and most of the FF fans are on playstation.

@maximos905

15 күн бұрын

​@@gabrielcunha2260 they are still missing a lot of sales from Xbox and PC gamers. That's millions of $ worth of sales but of course it cost money to put it on other consoles

@fayte0618

15 күн бұрын

They were paid by sony to be exclusive at a time (ps3/ps4 era) when they were struggling financially.

We're almost 4 years into the PS5/Xbox Series generation and I think it's safe to say, the jump to 4k has not been a good thing for the industry. It makes these games cost way too much to make for slightly prettier versions. Use that horsepower for something else, like physics engines.

@jarosbodytko6462

15 күн бұрын

What did you expect. Most gamers nowadays are all about the graphics. Performance is good and all but if the grass isn't moving, there will be hell to pay!

@Mirage475

15 күн бұрын

This is one of the few bright sides of AI being that developers can use it to ease workflows and asset texturing with upscaling. Problem is that you may end up with loss of jobs which would kill artistic integrity

Just please dear god... i wanna see the Remake trilogy end with a bang with the same quality of Remake and Rebirth. If this impacts Part 3 in a way that downgrades the experience or rushed moments due to development costs i will be extremely sad. This project is a once in a lifetime experience for me and many people arround the world. FF7 means SO MUCH to me i don't wanna see it being destroyed after all these years with this amazing project. I hope for the best and every single dev who worked and is still working on this trilogy i don't have any words to express my joy over the years thanks to the FF7 Remake Project.

@VelvetCake423

15 күн бұрын

considering the devs specifically mentioned in an interview that rebirth being ps5 only made development much easier, faster and efficient because they didn't have to worry about being able to port to other systems and could really go ham with polish and QA, QoL etc.... i think we'll see SOME depreciation in quality but to what extent we likely wont know until the games ready to be marketed

@sora_escandar222

15 күн бұрын

I really hope and wish they dont mess with FF7 Remake project. Just let part 3 release first and on pc as well.

@pandaeyez

15 күн бұрын

it wont. development has already been underway of the 3rd game for a while now

@Pyovali

15 күн бұрын

I wouldn't mind part 3 being a bit "compromized". A lot of FF7 Rebirth was just filler anyway. Part 3 doesn't need to be on the same scale. They could make even better game with half the budget.

@MarkHogan994

15 күн бұрын

@@Pyovali Complete nonsense. What you call "filler", a lot of people call "amazing side content". I don't want them to remove all the rich variety that made Rebirth amazing. There is absolutely no chance they can make a better game than Rebirth with half the budget. They went all out and that is exactly what made Rebirth so special. If they can't go all out in Part 3 then it will be a huge disappointment.

I don't understand why they wouldn't release FF VII Rebirth and FF XVI on multiple platforms.

@TheBeholderist

14 күн бұрын

What about other games? People could still support other franchises. Or the problem is everything FF?

@Onimusashi85

14 күн бұрын

@@TheBeholderist I'm an FF VII fanboy, so seeing it finished is my main concern. I did like some of the Tomb Raider games but they sold the franchise...

Ironic, isn't it? The OG FF7 was the beginning of Square and Sony's friendship because Nintendo refuse to use CD as a means to store games. And then FF7 Remake part 2 became the end of their friendship, because of how horrible Sony console practices has become.

@Tripman06

14 күн бұрын

The circuit is now complete?

They'd make more money if...I know this is gonna sound crazy...if they sold their games on fucking PC. Just compare how many people even own a PS5 vs how many have PCs. They have only themselves to blame.

@shatterlss7814

15 күн бұрын

💯 and I know the market is not as big but I'd be buying all of these on Xbox if they ported them.

@LittleAngryOwl

14 күн бұрын

True. I can't speak for everyone else, but for me personally, I'd rather build a decent pc than buy a console, because I can't buy both (too expensive while being outside 1st world). The thing is, I need pc for work, and I need quite a powerful one, so by building a proper pc I kill 2 birds with one stone: 1) I can work just fine, 2) I can play modern and resource-heavy games as a bonus.

@airdrighmor1439

14 күн бұрын

Assuming the cost of development for PC would be less than the increased sales. That's a big assumption.

@crimsonpotemkin

14 күн бұрын

@@airdrighmor1439 I don't how to tell you this, but the games are being developed on PC first, then made to work for consoles. They're essentially porting them to consoles (which are just very weak PCs with custom software/Operating systems). Compared to making games with specs that would fit to a weaker pc with custom OCs, the work it would take to make it work for PC is way smaller.

@airdrighmor1439

14 күн бұрын

@@crimsonpotemkin that's not what devs are saying, or doing, but you do you.

I personally think FFIX remake would be a good testing ground for a switch 2 FF release. It’s stylized, and would be pretty close to the og (hopefully). And I would just love FFIX remake on the switch.

@PresidentEvil2

15 күн бұрын

This is where square always messes up though. they need all final fantasy on the switch two and every platform

@dimitriosgladio059

15 күн бұрын

@@PresidentEvil2 yeah I agree, I just hope they actually do it

@Ukaran

15 күн бұрын

There is no FF9 remake.

@dimitriosgladio059

15 күн бұрын

@@Ukaran not yet

@pedrogoncalves4585

15 күн бұрын

If they get FF vii on the switch, its a hit

Yosuke Matsuda was the worst thing to happen to SE. The only good thing he did was approve 14 2.0. Kiryu has a LOT of heavy lifting to do to fix the absolutely insane decisions of his predecessor. How stupid shit like foamstars, forspoken, the KH mobile games and those NFT games got approved without Matsuda getting crucified by the board (and stockholders) still baffles me

@SuperRamos619

15 күн бұрын

I'm willing to bet the bags of money from Sony we're enough to please investors, and heading into Forspoken and Avengers release, probably had moneyed words, claiming how much money it would bring in. And ya know, it all just blew up in his face.

@mike1989libra

15 күн бұрын

@@SuperRamos619right

@1BadAssArchAngelvs14

15 күн бұрын

the KH mobile games are actually successful sellers.

@Kingdom850

15 күн бұрын

I don't like the KH mobile games either, but it's pretty well known that the mobile game market is huge worldwide, particularly in Japan with their "on the go" working lifestyle. They are making profit from those games whether you like em or not. Only reason they get approved.

@CrowXIII

15 күн бұрын

Bruh, because japan likes that crap

Nobody said Xbox would make a difference but you do sound salty that someone else gets to play a game you like , yes Xbox has made some blanders but they aren't dead man I don't get this hate you have for this platform like come on dude.

We can't use the excuse that people don't have home consoles in Japan when Stellar blade sold record breaking numbers in Japan

@ItsSVO

15 күн бұрын

Or pay woke consulting firms for inclusion in video games. SE deserve everything they get for their terrible decisions over the last decade. They’re out of touch and need an overhaul.

@Storm1Trooper5

15 күн бұрын

What are you talking about it sold way way less than rebirth

@jefftheindianchief8279

15 күн бұрын

@@Storm1Trooper5 There's a notable supply & demand issue with physical copies of the game, so how that'll impact overall sales in Japan is still a matter of debate. Final Fantasy selling well is a no-brainer, it's a well established IP in its home country. Part of me wonders if the rocky relationship between South Korea & Japan guided their decision to ship less.

@5orskysorsky338

15 күн бұрын

Squares been making horrible decisions, half of them are Garbo. Their mobiles tend to get delisted within a few years or not even. FF14 originally failed, FF13 wasn't a success, FF 15 was pretty mediocre given it's heavy investment, I didn't like origins or 16 that much either. Remake has everything going for it but that's because they have the group that made the original to begin with so it wasn't butchered by some random team making the Avengers, oh yeah Avengers was atrocious as well and also crystal dynamics which was a complete flop.

@ItsSVO

15 күн бұрын

@@5orskysorsky338 remake is a complete mess aswell. It also doesn’t have the same team making it at all as Sakaguchi is missing and he was the most influential and important part of the team from 1997.

I don’t see what they should have done to do better sales for ff7 rebirth. They were everywhere, the game is a masterpiece… I just keep my fingers crossed for them for the multi platforms release to be as huge as they deserve…

@aeolussvichi7680

15 күн бұрын

Some people seem to think that putting the game on the xbox would have prevented all this mess, but they just don't realize why they are in this mess to start with. There is no audience for these games on the xbox first of all. And the reason they are in this mess is not their exclusive dealings but poor management. They wasted money with GaaS games, they wasted money with NFTs, they wasted money by canceling projects they sunk lots of money into. The reason SE is in this mess is because of poor management from the top down.

@ericp631

15 күн бұрын

Not enter an exclusivity deal with sony. While not just in sales, but profitability would have been to scale back the entire project. Make it less costly and be something(that while compromised) would have been able to be on the switch(even streaming/cloud version). The fact is that the demographics for the PS5 ownership base isn't best inline with one's who would be most likely to play a ff7 remake project. It's not the 90's/early 00's anymore, PlayStation doesn't have the iron grip on the japanese market (it's an after thought there) or jrpg fans that they used to, they have been leaving the PlayStation ecosystem for Nintendo and PC for years. It's part of why FF and square enix has been sinking into irrelevance.

@aeolussvichi7680

15 күн бұрын

@@ericp631 so your advocating them compromising their vision for their games for profit? And where is the FF market, especially ff7 in particular, if not the ps? You say PC, what is the sales numbers between the two again? The reason FF7 remake is at the scale it is. Now is because they worked with Sony and got their help through finding ad well as hands to make the game what it is. Which is also partly why it’s temporarily exclusive to that platform now. Rebirth will also come to PC in time just like Remake did and just like XVI will too. Trying to make the game at the scale it is and quality simultaneously release it for PS and PC and oils have cost more and take more time. That’s why they released it first on PS with their aid and PC later. The Developer said as much himself. I’m not ok with them compromising their vision and quality for the games just so they can release it to more platforms at the same time at a chance to MAYBE make more money. Compromising vision for profit is not the way.

@ericp631

15 күн бұрын

​@@aeolussvichi7680 yes. This is a business. Rule 1 of a business is to stay in business. If you make games that aren't profitable enough to stay in business, you will go out of business. What's more important to you? "Vision" or the continued existence of final fantasy and square enix?

@sesamekitten5724

15 күн бұрын

@@aeolussvichi7680that isn’t true

I'll be waiting for the steam release on all new ff7 remake titles , I will never buy a new console again just to play 1 game.. and have the next chapter be released on PS5 ...

@12ealDealOfficial

15 күн бұрын

I agree. After FF16 and FF7R, I don't own any other games for my PS5. It just plays FF games and movies when a different console isn't hooked up. If it weren't for FF, there would be no love lost if the PS5 was the only Sony console I didn't own. For that matter, Bloodborne and the FF7R were the only exclusives I remember liking on PS4.

I do believe that inflation is playing a significant role in this issue. The rising inflation rates have led to an increase in the cost of living, putting video games kind of on the back burner. That said, with video games becoming the back burner due to unaffordability, we're also seeing impacts to people's ability to even have leisure time to sit down and enjoy gaming because of needing to work more these day's to just keep up, the backlogs be crazy these days for most.

The layoffs are just ridiculous. CEOs and businessmen keep their jobs while running the company into the ground, and the creatives get punished for it. I really think abandoning the "Remake" part of the title in FF7 Rebirth has a lot to do with lower sales. Everyone was talking about FF7 REMAKE for decades. And I'm not even joking, the sales on a multiplatform revival of Versus XIII as a continuation of XV would sell insane numbers. But no, just another round of layoffs for workers while higher ups take it easy being sustained entirely by FFXIV subscriptions. It's as you said, exhausting.

I hope square enix gets back to what they were before it seems to me square enix’s biggest issue is they keep making the same mistakes with every one of their triple A games they keep chasing trends or even risking it all by making new IPs still I’m very glad to hear square enix are targeting multiplatforms when it comes to their games very much needed

Kinda think that 7 Remake Part 3 still will have at least timed PlayStation exclusivity. If I recall correctly they have a deal with Playstation that probably still stands right?

@patriotsfan122480

15 күн бұрын

Pretty sure it was never confirmed that Part 3 was already going to be PS5 exclusive. I remember there was a headline about it, but then it was immediately changed with a note that Sony and SE did not acknowledge having an exclusivity deal for Part 3. I do think (this is just my own opinion, no knowledge to back it up) Sony probably has a first look deal for exclusivity for it in place already. Like if they want to make it exclusive, they can for a period of time before SE makes it available to other platforms, and if they choose not to then SE can just make it available to all platforms off the bat once they decline it.

@urazz7739

15 күн бұрын

@@patriotsfan122480 The way I see it, SE needs to get out of that deal or not renew it. The exclusivity deal is what is hurting SE more than anything else right now.

@ifrit1937

15 күн бұрын

@@urazz7739 The thing is the deal involved funding from Sony. If they have been using said funds to make part 3 they have no choice legally but to make it exclusive if Sony demands it or face a lawsuit which could lead to massive amounts of the profits being seized by Sony. Granted ideally Sony has lost enough money on the deal too that they'd consider making it multiplatform just so they can make more cash on the project from whatever amount of FFVIIR sales they get but if Sony continues to be as brain dead as they have been lately (Helldivers, Stellar Blade, etc) history will probably repeat itself with part 3 being exclusive (which is my prediction of how things will go down as I don't have faith in Sony to correct itself as long as its HQ is in CA). Now for all FF games after VIIR part 3 (whether it be new, ports, remakes, spin offs) they can tell Sony to piss off with the exclusivity if they feel like it as long s they don't take funding from Sony for said games...which I guess will mainly come down to if SE starts budgeting their games smartly and not budgeting them like the games will make 8 million copies sold or more on release (let me be blunt, they will never. Linear Story driven jrpgs like FF have a hard cap of about 3 to 5 million sales on release date/year...about 1.5 to 2 being hardcore jrpg players and then the rest being casuals not too interested in jrpgs but got interested in the game due to the marketing phase doing a good enough job to draw interest. As such SE should rework how they budget stuff, even if it means a cut to graphics, so that their budget will be high enough that only making about 1.5 million in sales will not cause an issue with SE's bottom line...otherwise they need to make the game a different genre (open world wrpg like game/shooter/sports/etc which SE hasn't had a great track record with and much experience with tbh (ya they had Tomb Raider but they sold the studio that makes it and it was a studio SE bought at one point). And on the gamers part we gotta accept that if we do want these linear story driven jrpgs we'll probably need to accept graphics and other aspects that are bloating the costs of these games being cut a bit to make the project sustainable as that is also a reason for SE's problem on top of the exclusivity BS).

@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu

15 күн бұрын

​@@urazz7739It's difficult to get out of when Sony played a pretty big part of it's development. There are alot of Sony names in the credits of each game. Same with second party games like Helldivers 2 and stellar blade.

@patriotsfan122480

15 күн бұрын

@@urazz7739 there’s a lot of things hurting them, mostly putting out so many subpar games and mobile games as they have been. Yeah, they’ll sell more being multi-plat, but it’s not going to solve all of their problems, and they shouldn’t expect it to. It still ultimately comes down to releasing good, complete games that people will enjoy playing and want to pick up on release, at full price if they hope to hit the sales figures they want. Obviously there are FF fans that will do so immediately on its PC release, but you’ve got plenty of general fans who may not do so until a big sale at the end of the year, or in a couple of years when part 3 drops, and they have to acknowledge and be prepared for that as well.

even if xbox is not doing great, that still is a market. the strategy is to reach as much sales as possible, leaving one market is not wise decission

@denglongfist4270

15 күн бұрын

In this day and age, every sale is a sale

@PicklePete69

15 күн бұрын

Xbox is fine

This is just 9 minutes of WILDLY over-exaggerated conjecture.

@randyburger2424

13 күн бұрын

Agree. This is the only video that’s making this sound like an awful thing. Most people believe that they are going to be able invest and focus on their breadwinning franchises and not on crap IP’s that aren’t their domain and suck.

So going multiplatform is bad?

@Aragami_Sensei

15 күн бұрын

During the making of a game yes, because it takes DEV ressources away from making the game better. Once the game is finished on one platform there is no reason not to port it to others...

@mitchjames9350

15 күн бұрын

@@Aragami_Sensei it ran s@#t on the PS5 lol.

@Aragami_Sensei

15 күн бұрын

@@mitchjames9350 I have a 55" with HDR/HDR10+, 120hz, ASSM, VRR, Dolby Atmos... It ran insanely well on graphic mode, didn't even need to put it on performance mode... I have no idea what you are talking about...

@mitchjames9350

15 күн бұрын

@@Aragami_Sensei I am referring to FF16

70 dollars is too much for games. Back in the late 90s I could only afford 1 or 2 games on the N64 because games sometimes cost even more than 70 bucks on cartridges. I was so happy when price went to 49.99 for a long time until the HD gen in 2005 bumped it up to 60 and now we have 70.

In this generation, being exclusive to one platform makes little sense. Each console has millions of players, but in the PC market, you have at least 2 billion potential users. From a business standpoint, catering to just one fan group won't be enough to pay the bills at Square Enix.

A little dramatic, isn't it? It's only launching the game in other platforms. And it's logic that if you're a third party to release the game on every platform available. Well, firing people is evidently not good, but please, don't go on panic mode so soon. Final Fantasy XIII was released on XBOX 360 and the world didn't end.

Man thats good and also bad news for Square. More fans can get more games now that they will be doing a multiplatform format as I personally believe it should have been. Putting the games on the switch would be a great move for them. It is disheartening to hear about the impending layoffs though. SE has been a part of my life for as long as i can remember and I want nothing but success for them. I'm hopign that this is a good big step in the company's future

Square's biggest problem is being stuck in the past and hopefully the new CEO can bring them up to speed in time. These development costs are really exposing how since the Gamecube and the Wii, Nintendo has been playing the long game.

It's reflective of the current state of the software industry in general. There are a lot good people, putting in an honest days work but are often times paying for it because of poor decisions upstream. There is often a misconception that large companies are immune to bad business or developmental practices. Yet the harsh reality is they aren't immune to it.

At this point it shows that some of you really are only about console wars, we all are gamers stop this Xbox or PlayStation thinking, get out this dump box

@TheGivenSoul

15 күн бұрын

Facts!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

FF Fan here....I skipped PS5 I'll get it on PC

With FFXIV having a strong base of players on PC, having a PS5 exclusive is stupid. Especially when the PS5 base is not that high with a few years of difficulty to buy one.

Well, one thing that is not being recorded as much is square Enix released a lot of games in the last couple years not just Final Fantasy 16 and Final Fantasy seven rebirth. This year they did close to 10 games in the last two years if not more. So I suspect what they’ll do is they’ll slow down with some of their additional non-Final Fantasy games ,spread those franchises out.

Honestly square could just drop the majority of their projects to just focus exclusively on their heavy hitter franchises like mainline FF, DQ KH and Nier, and I think they'd be better off for it. As much as I'd like to see them drop more releases for TWEWY and maybe one touch Parasyte Eve again, I can't imagine they'd be super profitable unless they keep their budgets within reason of their sales expectations.

@darknesswave100

15 күн бұрын

Yeah who would have guessed trying to make 10 games at once and have 2 of them be sellers would make them take a hit in their profits. Feels like indi game developers have a better sense on their limits than triple a companies do. They focus on one thing at a time while the rest of them have so many projects working at once that the quality suffers. They should instead of being quantity over quality flip that around and see how well they do

@OhayouEdboy

15 күн бұрын

@@darknesswave100 yeah, they'd be far better off with far less projects but having each one be as high quality and polished FF7R. Fromsoft has been sitting pretty for a decade now making generally very few games but having them all be really good, and having most of em utilizing the same formula certainly helps with budget and planning. There's really no reason as to why square can't do the same with 7R's combat system for future mainline games. They probably should've used it for 16 as well tbh, and I loved 16's combat.

Which system has the biggest install base? Switch. Which systems did SE mostly neglect? Switch and Xbox. I see the problem.

@TheBeholderist

14 күн бұрын

Yisus guys, the newer FF games wouldn't run on current Switch and we still dont know if even the newer model will holds up to. FFXVI wasnt even full optimized on PS5, because performance mode drops frames after a battle.

I've worked on games for years now, granted, it's not a big studio but all this talk about layoffs is making me contemplate on moving on to a different career. Sad times for the games industry and what many people used to call a "Dream Job".

They also check against the fact ALL THEIR VPS, ALL OF THEM, got increased salaries and bonuses that cut into those profits. 1 million raises for VP's and Shareholders of upper percentages all got kick backs. Greed at the top shows the cost hitting sales profits. Look at the sales numbers x prices - vp salary increases. Its listed underneath misc expenses for development.

Released two of their largest productions on PS5 exclusively. Hmmm, what's the common denominator here

@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu

15 күн бұрын

Don't forget forspoken too. Also smaller games like Valkyrie Elysium and foamstars

Does it have anything to do with them being PS5 exclusive? I'm a PC gamer, and I've been waiting to buy both these titles, and I can't be the only one.

@toro4271

15 күн бұрын

Same here, I am eagerly awaiting both of them to release on PC

The rising popularity of Steam Deck in Japan probably also contributes to this multiplatform focus shift. Steam's becoming more popular over there, I'd imagine being able to play your library on a portable device would incentivize a lot of people would be a big deal.

Well, at the very least, Square seems to be learning a lesson from this. Unlike certain other companies who've suffered worse but still won't learn. Still too bad all these people are losing their jobs.

Its Sony. There's still no time frame on when we can get a PC release of FF16. PS5 sales are not moving fast enough. Square-Enix need to drop exclusivity to save themselves.

This is what happens when you focus on nft for 2 years back during covid. Of course 2 ff games would never balance those books. Not to mention those canceled games that cost them a lot.

@raskolnikov6443

15 күн бұрын

Eh that is as stretch. That’s not the main reason.

@GamingwTallenV

15 күн бұрын

@@raskolnikov6443 it’s never one thing. I’m just stating that due to what is happening across the industry, some pretty obvious things like their obsession with nft cuts into that plus canceling a ton of things (which we saw with Sony and others too) will dip those numbers even more

I feel like the reason with square not making as much as they want is your asking someone who doesn't have a ps5 spend 4 to 5 hundred dollars for a system so going multiplatform im sure would help and if anything not waiting for a pc port for a year will help as well

What’s happening right now is a good thing. If a strategy is not working you have to try something else to have better results. They have made many decisions in the last 10 years that gave us amazing games, and the new strategy sounds smart and which a clear focus on growth, and few more high quality games. 🎉 Final Fantasy is going to be even more magical 🎉

Gutted about the layoffs but we all know xbox gamers don't buy games or support any game especially jrpgs if they don't release on gamepass day and date and I think SE knows this but I do wonder are they going to release games on xbox platform on OR off gamepass? Mark my words if its on gamepass then extremely low actual sales will get made and if it's not on gamepass then it'll be even less sales due to Phil Spencer conditioning xbox gamers to not support anything that's not on gamepass

@ramonalvarez19

15 күн бұрын

Sony fans are the same so I don't know what are you talking about

Hooray for no more exclusivity. Waiting a year plus sucks.

@darknesswave100

15 күн бұрын

It's seems like a braindead decision to do exclusives anyways. Take rebirth for example. Having it on Xbox and pc both would at minimum triple their profits and they'd make back what they spent and then some. Yet companies are out here only releasing on on console and then pc a year later if even later is just stupid

@aysaqchaudhry6054

15 күн бұрын

@@darknesswave100 I still haven't played FF16 and I'm pretty much no longer excited for it, the hype is like, LONG gone.

@denglongfist4270

15 күн бұрын

I wanted to at least play FFXVI but can’t buy a PS5 (rather have my kids doing all their extracurricular activities). I at least thought I would enjoy the OST, but can’t really get into it. At this time, Hoping FFIX is not a Sony exclusive

@ssmrgrim

15 күн бұрын

@@darknesswave100 PC yes would be a big boon to profits. But if you think any Final Fantasy game is selling an equal share on Xbox as it does on PS5 then every opinion you have is null in this comment section. Quite honestly they have to get on Switch and if that means scaling back graphics then they need to do so. The Xbox is pretty irrelevant for Japanese games, as it has been since the early years when they're expectations were that Fable would do for RPGs what Halo did for everything else and wipe out Japanese game genres as a worldwide phenomenon.

Square is doing a smart move. Yes, they are making "less" profits asap. In the long run, they are staggering profits and able to pay less on taxes per year. Offsetting profits with expensis "paying employees" and paying the companies higher-ups even more. You get the illusion that your not making money. Square as an entity can pay for everything before taxes are taken, and can expense anything "related" to the company.

@eastbow6053

15 күн бұрын

you forget blackrock, its the chinese credit system, if you dont hire the people we tell you to hire or dont make the stories we want you to make we will lower your score and not many people would wanna buy games from people with low scores its a disgusting way to control and to push the woke narrative

It’s the same old story really, companies get big, then too big when the economy was booming, economy begins to “correct” then they have to cut spending and excess and “reorganize” which means laying off non-essential staff generally. Rise and fall is normal, if they adapt, they’ll survive, if not then they’ll die. It’s similar to the movie industry chasing bigger and bigger paychecks, with bigger and bigger budgets but they need to make better smaller budget movies. The super hero formula is done.

@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203

15 күн бұрын

It's not just the super hero formula. People realized they don't need to go to theatres anymore. As for videogames, they just suck and the investors will learn the hard way that no amount of money can save a shit story and boring gameplay.

Console exclusivity has always been so stupid. From an accessibility standpoint, from a preservation standpoint, and now from a sales standpoint. Games cost so much to make now, why would you gimp yourself by only selling to one platform? I would have bought FF16 day one if it released on PC, and I know plenty of others would have as well. Going multiplatform is a good move, and maybe needing to tone games down for Nintendo systems will be a good thing, not having to spend so much trying to push graphics so hard. Hell, lower system requirements could even net them more sales since it would open up their games to people with weaker PCs.

Didn't bought XVI and Rebirth to this day because I don't have a PS5. With this trend of multi platforms, I think if a solution to reduce costs and increase sales couldn't be a unified console, a shared platform between Sony, MS and Nintendo, for example. The Xstation Switch lol.

@gamelover2222

15 күн бұрын

16 isn't good and I haven't had the urge to play Rebirth even though it's sitting unwrapped right next to me. S-E needs to go back to its roots or one of these days they will have another "final" situation.

@robsonfujii461

15 күн бұрын

@@gamelover2222 I at least want to try 16. And 7 Remake I bought on sale, definitely not helping on SE fiscal year lol (but helping myself).

@aeolussvichi7680

15 күн бұрын

Consolidation is never the answer bud. That's when things would truly be dire.

@BarneyGoogl

15 күн бұрын

Same. I'd buy both if they came to PC, though.

@robsonfujii461

15 күн бұрын

@@aeolussvichi7680 Sorry, didn't understand.

Yeah I'm one of those PC gamers that can't wait for Rebirth but absolutely can't justify paying the same price for a PS5 than I did for my GPU. Besides, PlayStation exclusivity is kind of a moot point now that we have stuff like Uncharted, Horizon and the Spider-Mans on PC. You're right, adding Xbox to the mix won't make a difference, but Switch & PC definitely will!

If it goes multi platform then that’s honestly the best thing

Makes me miss Squaresoft.

@Ukaran

15 күн бұрын

Oh, shut the fu** up! Squaresoft didn't create Octopath Traveler. Or FF14. Or FF7 Remake and Rebirth. Or NieR. Or many other amazing games.

I estimate so far: FF VII: Rebirth has sold 4.66m-5.38m FF XVI: has sold 7.05m-8.17m This is based on True Trophy users with it in their collections and the reported sales of Spiderman 2(10m) and God Of War: Ragnarok(15m) and their comparative True Trophy User count

@MarkHogan994

15 күн бұрын

There is no chance either game has sold anywhere near that amount. FF7 Remake alone needed 3.5 years to reach the 7 million mark. There is 0% chance that XVI has done it in less than a year on the PS5. Especially since Square said it underperformed. Same with Rebirth. If it had sold 5 million in 2 months that would be a huge success. The fact that Square reported to investors that it underperformed means it is nowhere near that figure.

@craigburkey269

15 күн бұрын

@@MarkHogan994 No, Rebirth has underperformed compared to XVI and Remake but as a game without those expectations it's performing moderately, did you miss the part in this very video where it was stated profits from the AAA game division are up 1%, there. Was even an analyst report looking at physical sales shortly after release pegging physical sales at 2m

Makes me wonder if they are gonna consider pulling a FF15, where they had the "high def version" and then the super deformed version that could perform on Wii. Granted I also woudln't hate it if SE decided to dial back on the need for high intense graphics and took a page from Zelda to realize that going for something stylized could work better. Imagine a Final Fantasy in the style of Amano's artwork, that could be interesting to see something like that, take a page from the persona series and reinvent itself to focus less on max graphics and more on style.

@TheWorstPartyMember

15 күн бұрын

This this this this this. That new Mana game and the previous remake (I don't remember their names its not a series I follow) have, in my opinion, the perfect graphics. They're detailed and expressive enough without being too overdone. Dunno if those games run well because of the graphics choice though...I would hope they do.

Things always get worse before they get better. Hopefully this will grow into a much better business model going forward. The gaming industry is shifting again. It truly is a finicky beast

Oh goodness...Layoffs at SE too?! My heart goes out to those who will be impacted by this. You've exactly said what I had in mind NSP! Having an FF exclusive to one platform kills sales potential. In addition to that, putting in alot of money and years to develop one title, like putting all your eggs in one basket. Not only are they spending too much money, they can't also make it back due to the restrictions exclusivity creates! I am no business expert...just operating with logic here. They need to cut down cost of making games, and release them on multiple platforms on day one if possible. Cause the more they waste time the less interest people will get. By the time they release x game 1 year later on PC, well most people have already moved to the next great game. I hope things work out for SE eventually! As usual great video NSP!❤😁

Too bad they didn't do a proper Remake of FF7 cause what we got is not it for the majority of fans of the original, that game should be selling itself but I guess it must be happening in another universe

Dropping the PlayStation exclusive nonsense would be a huge step forward and open them up to a much larger market.

I'm a lifelong fan of the Final Fantasy franchise, but I don't own a TV or a console anymore. I don't think releasing the games on Xbox will change much for the reasons mentioned, but releasing them on PC will have a significant impact on sales, possibly rivaling or exceeding their console numbers.

Square might want to think about pulling a Dragon Quest IX with Final Fantasy. Releasing FFXVII on the Switch successor, as well as every other platform. But making sure it runs and looks amazing on Nintendo's hardware.

I'm really looking to Nintendo to breathe some life and health back into the gaming landscape. I think it has the potential to make video game development much healthier. Less graphics, more sales, a great form factor. But strong enough to have ports of current gen games.

Thats why they canceled "140m project losses" so they get more staffs working on multiplat

Using "Wandering Flame" when talking about massive lay offs in the gaming industry was very on point. For about a year, the development side of gaming has been in constant pain & it sucks to see so many talented people forced out of their work...

Unfortunately it seems like 16 and Rebirth just didn't sell well on PS5. It's a huge shame, because I think they're both amazing. Hopefully bringing FF7R3 to multiplatform will allow it to sell to a larger audience

@ifrit1937

15 күн бұрын

Part 3 is unlikely to be multiplatform on release. The FFVIIR project from part 1 to now has been partially funded by Sony and SE said they cold only get the remake in progress with Sony's funding so if Sony wants it exclusive for a period of time SE can't stop it from happening with the VIIR project. Any future FF project doesn't need to do this though as long as SE learns how to budget the games better (if it means backing off from graphics from what XVI or VIIR did then they need to back off a bit if that's the only way to ensure they profit (let's be clear linear story driven jrpgs like FF do not sell the amount that the budget's SE is trying to push...at most you're looking at about 1.5 million jrpg players who'll likely buy the games and maybe another 1 to 3 million more casual players who may just pick up the game if they market the game well to gather interest in the games for the release of the game...maybe they'll get a few more million post release/after porting the game on top of that but that's about it...jprgs will usually at most sell to ~3 to 5 million unique players (only buy the game 1x) on release and that only applies ot the largest jrpg IPs, for the small to mid size you're looking at about ~1 million sales total in the first few years. SE has to start budgeting their game with lower sales expectations plain and simple (basically they need to budget games with the idea they'll make no more than 1.5 million sales or so so the budget needs to be low enough to guarantee they can profit well with selling 1.5 million copies, 2 million max instead of their obvious way of budgeting where they're expecting 6 to 8+ million sales...if it was an open world non linear rpg like most wrpgs and focused more on gameplay than story than expecting 8 million or so would make sense as said type fo games can more reliably sell that high as most gamers prefer that type of rpg (linear story driven games are usually 50+ hours with very long stretches of cutscenes and most gamers don't have the patience to sit that long which is why jrpgs don't sell as much as wprgs where you're actively in combat/traveling more often)).

@Coaltergeist

15 күн бұрын

@@ifrit1937 that's right I forgot about that. Well let's hope we can at least get it on pc before the ps6 lol

@iamskyfall

15 күн бұрын

@@ifrit1937def agree on FF7 R Part 3. The ink is likely dry on that deal. But overall, going multiplatform is better in the long run.

@iamskyfall

15 күн бұрын

16 and 7 Rebirth both have done well in very short amounts of time. They just weren’t able to offset Square Enix’s other failures.

Sony is to blamed. Super anticonsumer move to pay a 3rd party studio to be an exclusive. grow your own studio and finally make games for that shit wifi router please, it’s been 4 years and it’s just spiderman2 and demons souls 💀

Going to UEngine was a step in the right direction. Now, doing rpgs less photorealistic and not focusing on hair physics would be a good idea. AA budget rpgs would help release more rpgs, like octopath and triangle strategy. Remakes in hd2d of their classics would also sell well for a small investment. Also, ironically, their greed has been their downfall, with projects like babylon's fall, starfoam, and others on mobile... Tbh we also have to admit that their senior developers tend to have too much power, like nomura who doesn't know how to manage projects, or the recent game by ffxv team which flopped. Sega and Bandai namco have been more efficient at releasing more games of decent quality while keeping each game 's development cost reasonable.

Be prepared for a dip in quality when everything is multiplat.

We gotta talk about the Switch. It’s the dominant platform in Japan. FF and Square must must must get back on Nintendo. Compromises will have to be made but it is what it is at this point

I'm honestly shocked that Square Enix still hasn't gone bankrupt, given the amount of failures they keep releasing once every few years on average.

@ausgod538

15 күн бұрын

Because it's not that easy to go bankrupt

@zacatkinson3926

15 күн бұрын

They’re better off than what this suggests FF both did very well

@EldritchErik94

15 күн бұрын

@@zacatkinson3926Not commercially they didn’t.

@zacatkinson3926

15 күн бұрын

@@EldritchErik94 Yes they did

@TheSteelers4190

15 күн бұрын

​@@zacatkinson3926They literally said XVI and Rebirth were both solid releases sales wise in the same damn report.

They can definitely pull back on the graphics. I really liked ff16 despite the fact that I disliked the combat and sidequests. But I think they are going over the top with some of their battle cutscenes and scenarios (titan and bahaumut) and can pull back a bit and just focus on story and game play.

@eastbow6053

15 күн бұрын

Only that you say they also put a lot of extra useless stuff the one with the arm in the original you pass by the mechanical arm it was just there now you use it its stupid

Yeah that one percentile has a lot to do with final fantasy 14 subscriptions from the previous year. Not to mention the company has more than just mainstream games they are focusing on (like artificial intelligence implications for future endeavors). This is actually a healthy sign for the company as a whole on the investment/investors side of things (when it comes to long-terms).

Some people seem to think that putting the game on the xbox would have prevented all this mess, but they just don't realize why they are in this mess to start with. There is no audience for these games on the xbox first of all. Putting more resources into that market would most likely cost them ore than they would have made back from it. They got the data from prevous releases there that backs this opinion up. Switch and PC has a bigger audience for them and moving towards that community would probably give them a larger roi. The reason they are in this mess is not their exclusive dealings but poor management. They wasted money with GaaS games, they wasted money with NFTs, they wasted money by canceling projects they sunk lots of money into. The reason SE is in this mess is because of poor management from the top down.

@Silphiroth

15 күн бұрын

So much easier for dumb gamers to blame Sony. I'm all for putting it out on PC, but we wouldnt have the quality we have in Rebirth without Sony

@aeolussvichi7680

15 күн бұрын

@@Silphiroth I wouldn’t go that far and say dumb gamers. Just uninformed because they don’t follow the games development and dev diaries explaining why they chose to work with Sony and make the game exclusive, even if temporarily. It’s easier to just think, put the game out ti more places and it must translate to more sales, right? But not knowing that’s not always the case especially if it takes more resources to do that when you aren’t guarantees to make that back if it doesn’t sell on those other platforms due to smaller audience or no audience at all like in the Xbox case.

The mini game 3d brawler seriously piss me off. I don't know how it got approved.

@MetalGearRob7

15 күн бұрын

Yea love ff7rebirth but that mini game was trash

@kaizakira

15 күн бұрын

It’s crazy how they succeed in making it way worse than how it played og ff7

@Silphiroth

15 күн бұрын

Skill issue. Its an amazin minigame

DQ3's remake BETTER NOT be canceled since even IT doesn't have a release date YET.

Hi, the USA and European layoffs may be a good thing in the long run for Square Enix. One of the turn-arounds for Capcom's fortune was when they got rid of it's Vancouver studio, which did little more than pump out increasingly declining sequels to Dead Rising. And if I remember correctly it was that branch of Capcom that came out with the flop Lost Planet 3, which was the death-knell for that series (though gaming magazines at the time praised it for having a generic beardo main character that they could relate to because he was a single dad). Capcom then focused increasingly on development in Japan. If Square-Enix can dump the worst and most toxic of its Western staff, it may be an overall positive. They may even experience a similar revival to what Capcom is undergoing, who besides making successful remakes, are starting to experiment a bit more as well with some newer titles.

This is the best news that SquareEnix has released to its fans in 20 years. Take your censorship and shove it Sony. And stay out of Japan while you're at it.

@CrowsofAcheron

15 күн бұрын

What does an exclusivity deal have to do with Censorship? Sqeenix said outright they want to make games for Nintendo platforms, and they're much more conservative than Sony about what they allow on their console. Not to mention CERO is much more restrictive than ESRB about videogame ratings.

@peterchen6810

14 күн бұрын

@@CrowsofAcheron SEE: "Sony Exclusivity", in fact there's been so many complaints coming from developers about it its nuts. This is the exact reason why SE parted ways with them. Of course they are going to SPIN it as a positive lol.

@peterchen6810

14 күн бұрын

@@CrowsofAcheron Also i never said anything about sony exclusivity in my 1st post. So you're jumping the gun or probably a forum rat to defend sony. i wouldn't want your job lol

@peterchen6810

13 күн бұрын

@Crows I never said anything about exclusivity also. But its still great news.

Surprised nobody's addressing the tweet that's been pinned to the top of their X account since June 2020. Get woke go broke.

@shadowwwwwwwwwww

15 күн бұрын

cope

I honestly think Kingdom hearts 4 could bring in a decent check to at least help the situation. Especially if Disney puts in some work with the marketing

It looks like Square struggles with sequels(5:25).

• NFTs. • Ethics Department. • Censorship. 3 perfectly good reasons why I'm fine with these layloffs. Listen to the wrong people, make the wrong decisions = Fuck around, Find out. Focus on what the costumer wants, and you gain success, look at Palworld ffs. Squeenix dug themselves in the the hole, and they're desperate to get out, but it's only a matter of time if they manage to climb out of it, or fall even further.

The industry deserves this. Stop making gaming a way of being of being an activist. Make something that people will enjoy not what you think people should think.

@Silphiroth

15 күн бұрын

what? xD

I know I personally haven't purchased Rebirth because it came with Remake/Intergrade for free. That tells me if I can hold out until the 3rd part comes out, it will most likely come with Rebirth for free. I am worried about the DDOS attacks happening on FFXIV though. If they can't get past them before Dawntrail comes out next month, it is not going to be pretty with the new expansion issues they always have, with DDOS on top of that?

Honestly I wonder if this decline in interest in AAA is due to it getting much more expensive. And emulation being on the rise you can finally just go back and play all the GOOD games. And trust. They are way better and have aged great

@raskolnikov6443

15 күн бұрын

The younger generations are not as interested in AAA.

When companies go under, better opportunities and games come out. Getting uncomfortable pushes you to do what you should but did not because you are comfortable. Look at your life. You fat and need to drop pounds? When do you start? When a pain in your chest hits, you get told something that breaks the last straw and you finally get up off your ass and move ! I’m sure some people getting laid off are gonna bands together and start a new company that’s gonna revolutionize their paychecks, their hearts and the games we all play together. Let’s get uncomfortable in some areas of our lives. ( writing this on a hike trying to clear arteries and stress from my life(I might just be talking to myself))!😅🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤ love yall

They are third party so them being exclusive to a gaming system isnt necessary. I wish ff7 rebirth and ff16 was already on pc... it being on xbox wont run any better but having more ppl buying is always a plus.

They shot themselves in the foot by making it a PS5 exclusive. Opening it up to Xbox would pad sales but it would be a drop in the bucket as Xbox Series X/S only has 27 million consoles compared to PS5's 52 million consoles. Where they truly lost opportunity was the 1.86 Billion PC gamers worldwide. Once FF7 Remake, Rebirth, and FF16 land on PC they will be just fine.

Once FFVII Rebirth hits PC I'll buy it. But I'm not shelling out for a new console that is supposedly going out in a year just to play a single game. I'll wait for the PS6 or KH4 for that.

It will be interesting to see how much Square Enix supports the Switch Successor, maybe that rumored FF9 remake would be a good testing ground for it but I’d prefer for it to be one whole game and not follow the episodic format the FF7 remake games are doing. Makes me wonder if FF7 remake part 3 will be multi platform and not just exclusive on PS6 lmao.

I just hope this means day and date PC releases and a faster Rebirth PC release

@mohdshafiq6845

15 күн бұрын

Hopefully brada

I hope for the best for Square Enix my fav gaming compnay I love pretty much all their JRPG games and MMO as im a heavy FF fan and love ffxiv and imma excited for dawntrail next month LET'S GOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This isn’t just exclusively a Square Enix issue, it’s an industry issue. There’s just too much on the line for games to NOT be making huge figures because resources and staff are becoming more and more scarce and companies also are hurting themselves by cutting staff and not replacing people who have left. I used to dream about being part of the game industry but these days the industry just looks worse and worse and I’ve hear jumpy times it’s not something that you want to make a career of. In short: Video Games are not making enough money in this increasingly inflating economy.