I think they can save some money by having less lines from Chadley.

@Pyck3

19 күн бұрын

Just cut him from the game entirely.

@12ealDealOfficial

19 күн бұрын

Charley I can live with. It's the CONSTANT babbling during hunts I can't stand from girl Chadley. I legit don't understand anything she says during combat because I'm too busy fighting.

@tqlla

19 күн бұрын

@@12ealDealOfficial Send her to the controller speaker. Then go to the Sony system menu and turn down the controller speaker.

@Pyck3

19 күн бұрын

@@12ealDealOfficial its not chadley i have a problem with, more his Content. Also Mai is really annoying and i completely agree with you!

@sharkulashairstylist5505

18 күн бұрын

Or just file for bankruptcy and go away forever, square enix is a cheating pile of trash. I would rather play NBA Jam in the arcade at least the game does not deny cheating, square enix game are programmed to be cheating shit.

Some of the minigames and sidequests in rebirth were cute. But if they decide to scrap most of them in part 3 i wouldnt be mad

@pandaeyez

19 күн бұрын

just make them optional, that way people can enjoy them or skip them, and you satisfy both type of players. You cut them out, then you are only satisfying one type of player.

@sosbrigaders

19 күн бұрын

@@pandaeyez And thats what they did right. They were optional. I 100% the game but i dont have to in my next playthrough. But the least they can do is make them fun. Queensblood, chocobo racing, and the parade for example. I would find it very hard to believe that people would be upset if they cut the frog fall guys, costa del sol, and cactuar goblin minigame from part 3. Obviously i can appreciate that they put alot of effort and love into making this game. But they can allocate resources elsewhere. My guess is part 3 will have optional bosses galore. Which sounds awesome.

@MarkHogan994

19 күн бұрын

I would definitely be disappointed. The side content was very fun imo and that variety was a huge asset for the game. We haven't had a FF game with such rich variety in a long time, and to lose out on that for Part 3 would be hugely disappointing imo. They went all out for Rebirth and they need to be able to do the same for Part 3.

@thatgamerguy1982

19 күн бұрын

Well I don't mind the mini games but however...I just hope they don't over do it again for the 3rd cuz most of rebirth was 70% mini games and yeah I know it's optional but they can least make it less and expand more of the story...then I think the game can go with a blaze of glory.

@azuredream9032

18 күн бұрын

Some were shoehorned into the story. Definitely wasn't completely optional which i hated. Way too many qte mg as well.

I know it's a tough pill for Square to swallow in the short term, but I really think you play the long game with this project. When all is said and done, and you factor in bundles, discounts, and multiple platforms, this trilogy is a MASSIVE amount of content that they can make decent money on for decades. Will it light the world on fire? No. They haven't "lit the world on fire" since 1997. Will it become a profitable, worthwhile venture? Yes. This entire project is a metaphor for the changing video game landscape. We are watching a project react to these changes in real time. It's fascinating, really. Something to be studied years from now: "This is what video games were like in 2015. This is what they are like in 2028. Look at how this single project has been impacted by this evolving landscape."

@A203D

19 күн бұрын

This is a strong contender for game of the year. A real chance for Final Fantasy to win the greatest award in gaming. Lets give it more time. I think its a real shame FF16 came out before this one. If it was the other way round things might have gone differently.

@mikev8746

19 күн бұрын

Yeah they have the opportunity to hit the series out of the park with high metacritic scores and player reception from 1 to 2 to 3. Few trilogies manage this. And then they can sell the whole thing as one FF7 Remake. Release remasters and what not. Worlds your oyster SE. But none of that will mean shit if they half ass or even hold back on the last part. The series will always be remembered as something that started strong and ended quietly. And no one that would have initially been pursueded to by the 'trilogy pack' would do so now.

@cloud1stclass372

19 күн бұрын

@@A203D It's legitimately the best Final Fantasy game since FFVII. Forget the "best FF since X" talk. This is flat-out the best Final Fantasy game since the original FFVII.

@deltasyn7434

19 күн бұрын

I think the whole trilogy stands to do better in the long term. Especially if they can get Switch 2 ports.

@aytony4090

19 күн бұрын

​@deltasyn7434 probably why they haven't switched to Unreal engine 5. If they did then the game would probably not be able to get on the platform.

I knew some friends who played FF7 remake and loved it but they are stuck in the PS4 console and PC but couldn't afford a PS5. I think this is mainly a exclusivity issue.

@DewaHuang

19 күн бұрын

I think to run FF7 Rebirth well, you need PC that cost more than ps5

@Eclectic.Nostalgia

19 күн бұрын

@@DewaHuang you can add that as well

poor tifa shes sad in so many thumbnails recently lol

@pandaeyez

19 күн бұрын

shes being used for clickbait

@mr.awesome6011

19 күн бұрын

Well she is being hunted by feminists.

@supersaiyaman11589

18 күн бұрын

also people have spoiled parts of the game using those thumbnails.

@sharkulashairstylist5505

18 күн бұрын

LOL is right its fun towatch a theif company like square enix fail. time for bankruptcy, gamers don't need this trash gameplay they build.

@supersaiyaman11589

18 күн бұрын

@@sharkulashairstylist5505 like i have pointed out before different gamers like different thing.not everyone is going to like the same games. at lest try and see both sides not just that you think it is a bad game try to see why people would like the game as well.

Third game might actually sell better because of a few factors. There will first of all be way more PS5 consoles out there in 2027. Right now it's about 60 millions. Secondly the whole Remake trilogy will be out. So im sure Square will sell some kind of edition that has all three parts. Im kinda thinking that some people are just waiting for this whole Remake project to be finished before playing.

@heyjeySigma

19 күн бұрын

lol this is a MASSIVE COPE. "itll sell more just coz..just coz more ps5s out there!!" i know a ton of ppl were very disappointed in the ending sections of rebirth with the crappy multiverse nonsense and it KILLED the hype for them.. and me included. Now i have almost zero interest in part 3

@mrromanow3123

19 күн бұрын

​​@@heyjeySigmaFrom what I understand the general consensus for Rebirth is that an overwhelming majority enjoyed the game and even loved it. Stop acting like all are feeling the way you do. I'm incredibly excited for Part 3.

@heyjeySigma

19 күн бұрын

@@mrromanow3123 i was also part of that majority like 95% of the game.. until i got to those last 4-5 hours, then it became absolute TRASH. If you *actually* finished the game youd know how they butchered everything by the end. And i wouldnt be a real ff7 fan if you enjoyed that ridiculous ending

@mrromanow3123

19 күн бұрын

​​@@heyjeySigmaSo the 100 hours you spent in the game before the ending all instantly became trash cuz you didn't like the ending? Right.. also please spare me all the purist FF7 fan bs.. you can't enjoy Rebirths ending if you're a true fan 😂 Yes I can and I did.

@superchill45

19 күн бұрын

@@heyjeySigma no the final boss was really fun. The lead up to the ending was good too. It’s part 2 of the game it’s supposed to make you question everything. I co sign with the 95% FF7 Rebirth is amazing

It makes zero sense for Square Enix to go Playstation exclusive for the first two games of the FF7 Remake trilogy, only for the 3rd one to be Multiplatform. I guarantee you that they signed a 3 part Contract where all of the games related to FF7 specifically are only Playstation. They even confirmed this a few months ago as well.

@mikev8746

19 күн бұрын

Yeah I dont get why people forget this information suddenly. Also at this point Sony money is the only guarantee they have. Sony should back them up more even at this point. They seemingly have no first party games ready to hit their systems yearly anymore. So they need the FF7 Rebirth's and Stellar Blade's.

@marcelousneal4641

19 күн бұрын

This is exactly what I said. FF7 Remake Series will remain PS5 exclusive. Part 3 will probably be the end of the Deal then they go Multi platform

@BlckMateria

19 күн бұрын

In the case of FF7 part 3 I think you are right, but probably every other game will be multiplatform if the Square honor it's words

@BOSNI2R

19 күн бұрын

If they decided to go Multiplatform the next years, and they have signed with Playstation and if you look closley Rebirth has a (3 Month Exclusivity). So IF they do it there is a big chance we will see (Reunion - Part 3) on All Systems and hopefully Optimized.

@mrromanow3123

19 күн бұрын

For sure.. if not I'm expecting Xbox ports to be announced soon. That would prove us wrong.

It’s tragic rebirth has not sold well. It’s literally one of the best video games ever made … so many people missing out

@phrofile3613

19 күн бұрын

Not everyone owns a ps5

@watchmehope6560

19 күн бұрын

It has a boring open world. Lol. Its literally a ubisoft Game. Cool story though.

@watchmehope6560

19 күн бұрын

​@@phrofile3613but people are willing to buy one. Look at stellar blade. Sold out in Japan.

@johnschaeffer7008

19 күн бұрын

​@watchmehope6560 I am currently playing through Assassin's Creed Odyssey. There is a HUGE fucking difference between the open world content.

@iamskyfall

19 күн бұрын

The game has been out for 2 months and has estimated to have sold between 2 and 3 million. I think it’s done well, just not enough for square Enix’s absurd sales expectations.

i well never understand the ppl that want '' les game'' waiting 3-5 years for a game and hoping for a 10h gameplay ? 0 logic here.

@drewtheunspoken3988

19 күн бұрын

People who feel the need to complete everything in a playthrough became overwhelmed by the amount of side content. Rather than ignoring it, they'd rather it wasn't there at all. Of course, those same people might also be frustrated if there was a lack of post-game content if there weren't all those mini-games. Personally, I gave up the idea of completing everything once I got to Cosmo Canyon. I could never master the chocobo stuff.

@dkirby9052

19 күн бұрын

That is straw man. Nobody has said they want "a 10h game". How about less pointless Ubisoft towers or shallow, mindless distractions littered all over the map because some robot boy wants you to get data for him.

@oniyoda

19 күн бұрын

@@dkirby9052 Then just go through the story, all of that is side content your not forced to do..

@dkirby9052

19 күн бұрын

@@oniyoda Why would somebody spend 70 dollars or more on a game and only do a portion of the content? If you don't do the side stuff then you can't fully upgrade your characters since manuscripts and even weapons are locked behind that stuff.

@oniyoda

19 күн бұрын

@@dkirby9052 Do you platinum every game you play? or more specifically every game you have spent 70 dollars on?

I think the biggest reason for the drop off is that Remake launched on PS4 and Rebirth is PS5, there simply aren't as many PS5 gamers, even now, as there are PS4 players. Personally, I don't have a PS5, and I'm waiting for a PC release of Rebirth.Hopefully Rebirths sales jump up once it releases on PC.

I think there's a sizable audience that hasn't played Remake or Rebirth that are just waiting for all the parts to be out before they jump in. You KNOW they're gonna some kind of package with the entire trilogy at an enticing price point.

I was always under the impression that part 3 will have a higher ratio of main story content to side content. There's a lot of story to get through on disc 2, and if they trim anything from that it'll hurt the quality of the story. It makes sense to be a bit leaner on side content the next time around. On the other hand, the story content from disc 1 that formed the bulk of Rebirth mostly involved seeing the world for the first time and chasing Sephiroth. It made sense to flesh out that part of the game with character-driven side quests, and I think the developers succeeded very well in that area. Finally, as for minigames, I'm pretty much done with people complaining. The vast majority of them are optional, and no one is entitled to 100% a game as fast as they want to every time. There's a lot of very difficult content in Rebirth that was meant to hold us over for at least 3 years before the next part.

@wd91

19 күн бұрын

It had too many mini games. It was a waste of budget and time. Still platinumd the bitch tho lol

As an older gamer, I've migrated to pc gaming after a year of trying to get a PS5 and getting beat by scalpers. I now use a small gaming laptop and steam deck oled. The versatility of not being tied in front of a TV is just too priceless. I'm even considering buying a xreal air 2 glasses to sweeten my experience more. I can wait till rebirth goes to steam, and play it with mods.

@Aragami_Sensei

19 күн бұрын

since 2022 you can get one easily online for the original price, you can also find used one or refinished for 100$ less..

@psxnitro

19 күн бұрын

@@Aragami_SenseiYou missed my point, it's hard to go back to couch gaming when I can easily play the games I want on the go now, using a laptop or on my steam deck. If they come out with another Playstation portable, I'll be all over it. This is from someone that has multiple units of each generation of Playstation consoles except PS5.

Reducing the scope of part 3 would definitely damage the company, this is one game that they must see through until the end and follow Nomura, Kitase, and Hamaguci's vision. When they ended at the Forgotten capital, they left a lot of material for part 3 and in my opinion it will be bigger than Rebirth if they plan on using all of the compilation.

@donah4496

18 күн бұрын

this. Tbh, im kinda nervous about part 3 for that exact reason. I feel they left a looot of story stuff to cover in only 1 game. I trust them, I really do but I have my minimal worries.

@TravaillesDuChanson

18 күн бұрын

@@donah4496 I feel the same, they aren't going to damage their cash cow

I've been waiting for PC. :x

As a new player to Final Fantasy in general, I personally feel that FF7: Re is both a remake & sequel to the original. They expanded content from FF7 as well as added new content, graphics, & updated music. As someone who just kind of dove into Remake w/o having known anything other than /who/ Cloud, Arieth, Tifa, & Sephiroth were (hero, hero, hero, bad guy) it’s nice to be able to get to know them better.

I am excited for you to hit 100k you deserve it!

I don't think loyalty to the brand is an issue; FF fandom is loyal to their favorite game, not the brand as a whole. The FF brand is constantly targeted by its own "fandom" and usually gets complains and bad reviews only due to thinks not bein to their liking. The problem with PS5 exclusives is an amalgamation of issues that starts with resellers, availability of chips, price increases and end with constant economy recessions. IMHO, If SE wants to make a killer game, it will need to be a new IP, because at the moment the FF fandom is poison 😢

@CodyCoonrod

18 күн бұрын

Hmmm.. idk if that’s completely true. Very opinionated lol. I for example have been in the fandom since ff8’s release. I was very young but definitely lived online and helped build a lot of the community in the forums that spoke on the “golden age” of FF. I think a lot of FF fans will tell you they love the franchise as a whole because the heart of FF love is diversity. Loving the fact each game is its own story with rich stories and characters. Can you have a favorite? Of course, but to say it stops there is premature. Look at ff14 for example, it’s all about FF lore within its own world that people love. SE’s biggest issue right now is loyalty to their own brand and up till now not serving it up very well. They’re paying their dues catching up to what they lost out on for so many years with everything after 12.

@Sdragoon1

18 күн бұрын

@@CodyCoonrod "Everything after 12"? - I may be wrong, sorry to assume, but sounds that you did not like 13, 15, 16 and the new FF7Re. You might not like a game, I hate 13, but I have never thought that the franchise has lost its way. I just thought that they were trying different types of gameplay. What I can say without a Cloud of doubt, pun intended, is that I could never discuss with another FF fan why I love FF7 without having to hear why FF6 is better. Every new FF since 8 has been hated at launch and loved after the new one is released, I'm glad you haven't been exposed to that negativity because FF is awesome.

Part 3 will be fine. It’s already deep in development. Everyone needs to take a deep breath!

@tyleracuna2567

19 күн бұрын

This trilogy is so important to me and I’m a scared of what’s going to happen. Everyone is acting like the third game is getting cancelled

@supersaiyaman11589

19 күн бұрын

@@tyleracuna2567 well a lot of people on you tube hate the game i personally like the game and will be buying rebirth wene it hits steam. however i have also read forums that people like the game.square knew this trilogy would spark controversy otherwise they would not have put that for some this will bring joy others it will bring sadness but they are coming back. its like i have said if you don't like the game don't buy it but don't complain if other people like a game. i am looking forward to rebirth on pc and will buy whatever part 3 is called. the second game did not do as well as the first but that is expected as it is not a 1 too 1 remake but it still sold decently by gaming standards it sold d.3.2 million copies that is good.

@MarkHogan994

19 күн бұрын

It's not that deep in. The script was only finished in February, and Nomura said they are still considering some changes to the story even now. They are in the very early days, and things can easily change mid-development.

@tyleracuna2567

19 күн бұрын

@@supersaiyaman11589 everyone is entitled to their opinion but it’s a damn shame that some people don’t like it. I didn’t expect them to go as overboard as they did with the mini games. People complain about the mini games but they go out of their way to make them optional. Also I don’t know what kind of sales Square Enix is looking for because I think any number over 3 million for a console exclusive is great.

@supersaiyaman11589

18 күн бұрын

@@tyleracuna2567 i agree 100 persent that people are entitled to their own opinion. it just baffles me how you can complain that a game is not what you expected wene we have you tube and you can view reviews and lets plays before you buy the game. i think the people that are complaining wanted a carbon copy of final fantasy 7 with better graphics. i for one love the battle system and thought they did a wonderful job on that but some people wanted it to remain turn based that confuses me somewhat. if it had remained turn based the battle system would not be nearly as good. the way materia was implemented was rely well done too. that is the reason i say if you don't like what was made apparently you wanted the original and not a remake. wene they said final fantasy 7 remake they ment they were remaking the game witch does not nessasaryly mean it will be the same as the orignal.i think some people misunderstood that or a lot of people based of the sales of the first part and second part still 3 million is a fantastic amount to sell. i meen even if rebirth cost 3 million to make they still made their moneys worth on a 70 doller game even with storfronts taking 30 percent

These are my thoughts, but personally I loved the massive attention to detail to the games world, locales and side quest story lines. The content helped flesh out area's of the game that were other wise severly lacking in the OG. That being said though, I do feel the sentiment with other players who state to much game can also impede the pacing of the main story and having getting close to the end my self, i can deffinity agree with that. I feel like the right balance is needed for the 3rd part of the trilogy, especially now that the story ramps up. Don't get me wrong though, i don't want them to remove the idea of "side content" completly and just have a straight forward affair like FF XVI. I rather there be content that supplements the main story well, well also providing enough leisure activities after an intense dramatic climax to a chapter. But it does not need to go to the extent of what rebirth did.

To increase sales for part 3, sale the game as a bundle with the previous 2 games. This may entice new comers to try the game since they would get a deal on the first two being included in the sale. 3 games for 60-80 dollar, even if two of them are older seems like a deal.

The funny thing about all of this is that Square Enix is going to learn that there is no potential for a magical sales spike to astronomical heights for future game releases of theirs. Whether they are multiplatform or not. They learned that after FFXV when the bulk of the game’s sales were on PlayStation vs Xbox & PC *(8M+ on PS4 out of 10M+ overall)* which resulted in mainline Final Fantasy releases going primarily exclusive to PlayStation. Let SQEX go multiplatform though. Drop the Switch exclusives too, because there are A LOT of them. Let’s see how this goes.

@RCDeschene

19 күн бұрын

If multi-platforming isn't going to help them, then we may just have to face the fact that Square's days as an independent company are gravely numbered. It seriously wouldn't shock me in the slightest if by the end of the decade Square Enix becomes Sony's property.

@DogHairDontCare

19 күн бұрын

To be fair, most jrpg console players opted for PS4 -- even JRPG fans who bought xbox ones. It makes sense that most FF fans who have both consoles would opt for the PS4 version. PC on the other hand had a staggered release 2 years after. I think SE would have done much better with simultaneous PC launches with FF16 and ESPECIALLY FF7R, because they pissed off ps4 owners with the PS5-exclusive DLC for Yuffie. They are going to have to cast the wider net to salvage all that hard work on the FF7R trilogy, and it makes absolute sense to pursue multiplat. I would not be surprised to see FF7R get ported over to Switch 2. They've already proven lower textures will still do well with ports on switch, and it's better than nothing. Money is literally there on the table.

@Zelink108

19 күн бұрын

@@RCDeschene Lately there has been a lot of speculation about how Square is doing. Let's see what they themself say and plan. * At the meeting convened on March 27, 2024, the Board of Directors of Square Enix Holdings voted, in light of the myriad changes underway in the environment surrounding its Group, to revise the Group's approach to the development of high-definition (HD) games with the intention of being more selective and focused in the allocation of development resources. As a result of a close examination of the Group's development pipeline taken in keeping with this revised approach, the Company expects to recognize approximately ¥22.1 billion in content abandonment losses on its books for the fiscal year ended March 2024. What does it mean? The company canceled a bunch of games that it doubted were profitable. Kiryu said last year that Square is developing too many middle-class games, and he doesn’t like it: he thinks that it is necessary either economically, or AAA. At the same time, the latest investor report emphasizes that the middle class is not being abandoned: * Keep and build on the fan bases for our major franchises by regularly releasing AAA titles * Release mid-class titles based on strategies for individual lineups, prioritizing profitability * Explore additionally leveraging our Group's rich library of IP * Be bold in attempting to create a new IP, prioritizing novel forms of excitement and striking the right balance with earnings potential * Building continuous customer contact points of our titles by stepping up digital sales. The Group will strengthen user flow of digital sales of new titles at the time of launch regarding the initiatives of promotion. In addition, it will generate the opportunity of generating revenue in our rich catalog titles' line-up, which leads to strengthen its earnings base by expanding sales of catalog titles. Moreover, the Group will engage in initiatives which focus on the acquisition of PC users. In short, Square realized which platform was blessed, and decided to sell their old games on Steam to everyone in the world. Is there any word in the report that 16 or Rebirth performed poorly? Nope. * In the HD (High-Definition) sub-segment, consolidated net sales for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2024 increased compared with the previous fiscal year due to the release of titles including “FINAL FANTASY XVI,” “FINAL FANTASY PIXEL REMASTER, ” “DRAGON QUEST MONSTERS: The Dark Prince,” and “FINAL FANTASY VII REBIRTH.” The MMO segment has sank, but this is logical; nothing came out this year (or, in fact, two). Mobile phones have also not achieved success. As a result, everything is stable for Square in terms of money, only there is less profit, because the games were canceled for 140 lyams. Well, in the NPD chart, which somehow takes into account both physical copies and digital copies on the American market, Rebirth is in fourth place in the list of best-selling games of the year (behind Helldivers, Kolda and the second dogma). So if someone is lying to you about the failure of FF16 or Rebirth, ask him for proof greater than just some spouting of Twitter roosters.

@gandalfurisotherworldly7909

19 күн бұрын

Of course multiplatform helps that's just numbers yall act like dev cost of porting to other x86 machines are astronomical the work and dev time are minimal compared to the investment even it they sell .5 mil on xbox that's still .5mil in Rev that they would've never gotten.

@songohan5866

19 күн бұрын

​@@DogHairDontCare agree 💯 percent. This should have been al least on PC

So I've been thinking, might there be a good chance for the FF7 trilogy to get a second wind of sales after all 3 games are out? I've heard plenty of people kind of roll their eyes at the thought of waiting 3 to 4 years inbetween releases. I'm sure after all 3 games are out Square will sell some kind of package with all 3 of them together and maybe that will get more people buying the games, knowing they can play the whole story at once.

The trilogy is not changing to multiplatform on launch. We might get the PC release way sooner than we expect though. Also, why are people complaining about too much game when most of it is optional.

@MarkHogan994

19 күн бұрын

I agree with you. People complaining about "too much game" when referring to optional content are absolutely laughable.

@unicorntomboy9736

19 күн бұрын

​@@MarkHogan994 A lot of it is tied to trophies

@CruxisAngel954

19 күн бұрын

@@unicorntomboy9736doesn’t change his point those who care about trophies are the small minority.

@unicorntomboy9736

18 күн бұрын

@@CruxisAngel954 The game is so full of bloat and padding, it destroys the pacing of the game's narrative. It was a mistake to make FF VII a trilogy, instead of a duology, that way it would have sold much better. The entire narrative of Rebirth is the middle portion of the overall story, which is often the weak point area most writers run into, so making the entire thing essentially Saggy Middle Syndrome: The Video Game was bad idea, it is full of filler and bloat designed to pad the runtime It was an issue in Remake, but instead of fixing the issue, the developers tripled down and made the padding and bloat far worse in Rebirth, as well as fill it with cliche, tropey anime bs

This is an incredible video Ryan! Perfectly sums up my thoughts too. They cannot risk to damage their image and fan trust. They need to end this trilogy properly.

Yeah, it's too bad they fucked up Rebirth with all this stupid timelines multiverse BS. Turned a lot of fans off. Oh well.

I don't think it's all that likely. The biggest savings you could make to a project like this is to scale back features, but that is the kind of stuff that they likely began working on years ago. Like, they would have likely began working on the technical underpinnings of the weapon fights ages ago - and sure, they could save a bit of money by scrapping them so they don't have to put together the accompanying gameplay and fmvs, but from a technical side of things those encounters have already been bought and paid for, so they represent a huge sunk cost.

Great breakdown as always. Thank you.

My biggest fear is Square Enix deciding to reduce the scope of Part 3 due to sales projection being lower after Rebirth, that would be sooo disappointing, this will likely linger in the back of my head until i get my hands on the final product...

@tbnwontpop8857

19 күн бұрын

I mean if they do, chances are they won't say anything. They already aren't being upfront with Rebirth's sales, and they weren't upfront about part 1 not being a true remake. SE is a very dishonest company particularly in the CBU1 department. Kitase lies frequently, Nomura shirks responsibility as a director whenever people criticize his games, Nojima is a terrible writer these days, and Toriyama forced 2 sequels to one of the most reviled entries in the series, XIII. The devs at CBU1 don't strike me as honest, and they seem extremely tone-deaf to fan demand and come across as self-serving to me rather than earnest to deliver on good games that the fans want.

@songohan5866

19 күн бұрын

​@@tbnwontpop8857 hopefully the people at square get their act and make sure part 3 is amazing. Kinase needs to stick to the original more.

@awakenow7147

19 күн бұрын

@@songohan5866 This. Focus the story back on essentials from the OG. Make sure to get Cloud's Lifestream moment PERFECTLY. That should be #1 priority for FFVII in general. Cloud is the hero, and he needs to be priority #1. Subtract minigames as much as possible, and focus instead on developing Wutai/Mideel/Rocket Town/Icicle Inn sidequests. Hell, I'll even take improved World Intel missions over the damn minigames. We all know that Zack will likely be a big part of 3. Make his storyline more meaningful and interactive than in Rebirth. Give him some more character development too. Just my opinion, anyways.

@Zelink108

19 күн бұрын

@@tbnwontpop8857Nomura is the most decent guy at Square, stop using him as scapegoat for everything.

@Zelink108

19 күн бұрын

Lately there has been a lot of speculation about how Square is doing. Let's see what they themself say and plan. * At the meeting convened on March 27, 2024, the Board of Directors of Square Enix Holdings voted, in light of the myriad changes underway in the environment surrounding its Group, to revise the Group's approach to the development of high-definition (HD) games with the intention of being more selective and focused in the allocation of development resources. As a result of a close examination of the Group's development pipeline taken in keeping with this revised approach, the Company expects to recognize approximately ¥22.1 billion in content abandonment losses on its books for the fiscal year ended March 2024. What does it mean? The company canceled a bunch of games that it doubted were profitable. Kiryu said last year that Square is developing too many middle-class games, and he doesn’t like it: he thinks that it is necessary either economically, or AAA. At the same time, the latest investor report emphasizes that the middle class is not being abandoned: * Keep and build on the fan bases for our major franchises by regularly releasing AAA titles * Release mid-class titles based on strategies for individual lineups, prioritizing profitability * Explore additionally leveraging our Group's rich library of IP * Be bold in attempting to create a new IP, prioritizing novel forms of excitement and striking the right balance with earnings potential * Building continuous customer contact points of our titles by stepping up digital sales. The Group will strengthen user flow of digital sales of new titles at the time of launch regarding the initiatives of promotion. In addition, it will generate the opportunity of generating revenue in our rich catalog titles' line-up, which leads to strengthen its earnings base by expanding sales of catalog titles. Moreover, the Group will engage in initiatives which focus on the acquisition of PC users. In short, Square realized which platform was blessed, and decided to sell their old games on Steam to everyone in the world. Is there any word in the report that 16 or Rebirth performed poorly? Nope. * In the HD (High-Definition) sub-segment, consolidated net sales for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2024 increased compared with the previous fiscal year due to the release of titles including “FINAL FANTASY XVI,” “FINAL FANTASY PIXEL REMASTER, ” “DRAGON QUEST MONSTERS: The Dark Prince,” and “FINAL FANTASY VII REBIRTH.” The MMO segment has sank, but this is logical; nothing came out this year (or, in fact, two). Mobile phones have also not achieved success. As a result, everything is stable for Square in terms of money, only there is less profit, because the games were canceled for 140 lyams. Well, in the NPD chart, which somehow takes into account both physical copies and digital copies on the American market, Rebirth is in fourth place in the list of best-selling games of the year (behind Helldivers, Kolda and the second dogma). So if someone is lying to you about the failure of FF16 or Rebirth, ask him for proof greater than just some spouting of Twitter roosters.

there's a few weird parts and many nerve racking minigames, but it's the best game I played for quite some time

As long as I don’t have to buy a ps6 I’m ok with whatever. I was annoyed when they released Intergrade on ps5 and I was glad they didn’t plan that for Rebirth. Although I wouldn’t put it past Sony to try to delay pt3 to make it a launch title for the ps6

@aznhomig

19 күн бұрын

Rebirth coming out for PS5 was obvious since Remake was at the end of the PS4's lifecycle. If Rebirth came out for PS4 it would not nearly have been as ambitious of a game it ended up being. I do agree it would be annoying if the third part was a PS6 exclusive, though.

@nhlcbj

19 күн бұрын

@@aznhomig thing is I’m getting to a point in my life where I’m falling off of gaming as my main pastime. The last part would be an excellent game to go out on. I still probably will buy a new system if need be, but I really hope that’s not the case.

@mrromanow3123

19 күн бұрын

Pretty sure they want to get it out by 2027. We are gonna be at the end of this console cycle but not on PS6 yet..

@uchennaobi5985

19 күн бұрын

Bruh, the PS6 is not gonna have any exclusives even from sony. Just think about this gen cross gen with crazy budgets. Imagine PS6 Gen. You good with ps5 for like 8 to 10 years plus tbh. ps4 came out in 2013, still getting games.

@Aragami_Sensei

19 күн бұрын

PS6 no but PS5 Pro yes if you want to get the best out of it probably. It's due to come out in 2024 or early 2025, SE probably have the PS5 Pro DEV Kits in hand...

Whats bugging me mainly is that they focused 100% of their power on the remake when remake and rebirth showed me how much more stronger and more polished FFXVI could be, there are some who are in love with FF7 but not everyone loves FF7

The other question is: how many of those 7 million were disappointed that it wasn’t a one to one remake?

@katherinemerkel3505

19 күн бұрын

A lot that’s for sure

@byleth9565

19 күн бұрын

Probably those who are og purest who vowed to "never" to play it and criticized anything that didn't happen in the original

@juanvsreviews

19 күн бұрын

@@byleth9565well we can’t deny there was an expectation and some people felt betrayed. I mean, I’m happy with what they gave us?l, but I can definitely see the other side where one would felt cheated. All those years of teasing only to NOT give us what they promised.

@matthewmuir8884

19 күн бұрын

No one, to my knowledge, wanted a 1-to-1 remake. The pre-release advertising painted FF7Remake as a full-overhaul remake with new graphics, presentation and combat, and there was almost nothing but hype for that. What disappointed a lot of people was the timeline stuff that makes it no longer really a remake and also made it alienating to a lot of newcomers. I'm a complete newcomer to Final Fantasy, and I bought FF7Remake because I thought a modern remake of FF7 with new presentation and combat would be a perfect starting point. I liked the new combat and presentation, and I even liked stuff like the Jessie chapter, but the game lost me the moment it started doing timeline stuff that may as well have screamed, "Come back after you've played FF7 to understand and appreciate this!".

@aworkingtitle8972

18 күн бұрын

The problem is that none of it makes sense. The ending of remake was just bad writing, battling the epic giant heartless above midgar? Beating sephiroth right after? Oh I’m sorry cloud but the sephiroth you are looking for is in the next game.

I think Part 3 will be exclusive to PS5 for some months, like REMAKE and REBIRTH, but as soon as exclusivity is up, they'll release the entire trilogy on all platforms, most likely in a bundle.

Atleast with the arrival of part 3 , the game can now be sold as a whole for new players.

Honesty the name hurt it. I had a coworker assume it was a re-release of Remake like the Last of Us Part 1. Naming it Remake Episode 2 would have been more clear.

@vamphunterx

18 күн бұрын

Your coworker isn't very smart

@dh6037

18 күн бұрын

@@vamphunterx true, but OP is also right, Rebirth is a terrible name....one that only a Japanese developer would think was cool

Im sure the project will not be affected as they are committed to give the full efforts on the 3rd part for the PS5. If those games wants to come out later on other platforms, then it wil be some decision by the same SE. But FFR-3 will not be multiplatform from the get go. Maybe other FF games projects like FF9 Remake/Remaster could be multiplatform. Other game franchises like KH4 could be multiplatform too as similar to the 3rd entry. Most people are blaming Sony, but the problem is the same SE with their unreal sales expectations for their games. For example, Final Fantasy 13, a 2010 old game, sold around 7.8M total as for 2018, being a multiplatform game. Retro FF games which was Playstation exclusives for decades has come to Gamepass and they're available for Switch too. So, the problem is not exclusivity nor multiplatform. Avengers is a non FF multiplatform game and people know what happen to that game, it sold like shit. Star Ocean The Divine Force (SO6) is multiplatform too. FF 7 Remake is already on PC. Spin offs FF games like Crisis Core Reunion are multiplatform and Stragers of Paradise is multiplatform too (except Switch)

FF7R Part 3 will be exclusive, I can't imagine that contract with sony letting the finale not be the case, BUT the inevitable 3 Part BUNDLE/COLLECTION or whatever that will come will probably be a multi release, then all the Switch 2 sales will be there. MAYBE PC day one for part 3 but that's a big maybe depending on how much longer they want the dev time to be

I think it’s gonna sell more I think that majority didn’t buy the second game because they’re waiting for the third to come out to buy all of the games and played them at once massive fantasy seven experience

I hope they release all three parts as a bundle at once to help sells. I really loved rebirth and wish it would get more love.

Let's hope so.

Theyre also going to release a full trilogy copy and people will FINALLY be able to play all of it at once. This will be what attracts the new players.

It's crazy how much pressure is riding on FF7R3 at the moment for the foreseeable future. I feel for Square because it's truly like they can never get a break, but they always manage to find a way back. I wish the shift to multiplatform came sooner, but better late than never. I really hope that proves fruitful for them. I know the Switch isn't super strong, but they've missed out on a bunch with that.

They already fucked up by including DEI and using SBI for their ethics team. They'd have to give a very good apology and prove that they aren't going that route for Remake 3 to get people already turned off back on track. Still, SE released a censor patch 4 years after Remake's release, so It's best to wait about 5 years after Remake 3 to buy it, just in case SE turns their back on gamers again.

Great work as always NSP.

The first 2 parts were very well received and highly praised I have no doubt part 3 will be just as good

FFVII Rebirth needs to tie all other Final Fantasy VII games, books and series together for the final conclusion in Disc 3 and connect FFXIV and XVI together with the rest of FF. Tying all FF media together is the most important goal for SE and trying to get all of it into UE5 is the next big step for any further FF remakes to be made with ties to Fortnite and UEFN. The same goes for Dragon Quest, Nier, Saga and many other big projects SE they are going to carry over to UE5. They have to in order to finish up KH4 and DQXII.

@5:00 As someone who did not like FF7r, I can honestly say it would have been dramatically been better to have the game be closer to a 20 hour experience, instead of hyper fluffing the padding out with pointless side quests that were primarily for boosting the girl's affinity gauge. From what I've learned from others who actually did like Part 2, the same issue did actually happen again. The game was just too large, and it would have been a better experience being a condensed out game to polish out events, and remove most of the fluff from it. This would have also saved on the budges, and made the game by far more profitable.

I think we should be careful in making any predictions because it could be that part 3 never releases. I mean with the way things are going any of the involved companies could fold in the next 3-5 years.

We better get those weapon fights

Someone else is also having problems with the side quest "Beneath Still Waters"? The Hell Rider 2 does not spawn at all at the Fallen Citadel and no I am not fast travelling there, but simple going as the quest wants me to. This basically locks me out of the platinum trophy, because I am not able to finish this side quest.

I think that this will be a win for them. They are acknowledging what it is people want and seeming to gear up to give it to them. I doubt they will skimp on the quality of the mainline FF series, rather than scraping their non”HD” games.

I cannot wait to see the “You can start with part 3!” recap video from Square lmao

OG ff7 was a massive game with a ton of stuff to do and a lot of it was on disc 3. I think the third part should have the most content personally

The people waiting for all 3 games to be released before buying may end up being the boost in sales they need and in the long term I don't think they'll have any issues pulling in decent sales once it comes to the PC. I've also watched a lot of new players who have never touched the OG and they think it's one of best games they've ever played, some even going as far to say FF7R has made them feel the way they did when they played games as a child, where they could get lost in the world. The FF boomers aren't alone in their nostalgia/feelings and the newer generation that is just now discovering this series is beginning to trickle in one FF game at a time.

The issue for Final Fantasy is twofold. The sales have not reached the enormous numbers of previous entries in Japan. The most important market for Final Fantasy now is North America and Europe, which is not necessarily a bad thing but its a shame the game is not selling more in those regions. Eventually I have faith the game will get the sales in both North America and Europe, but it will take time.

I never thought that I'd be saying saying Final Fantasy XIII was a better game than this. Those that really know are aware that Final Fantasy 9 was the last great mainline Final Fantasy. Back to my retro life.

I was thinking that the re-use of assets will result in a smaller budget, similar to how the FFXIII Trilogy played out as despite the lower sales with each sequel, the series remained profitable due to the vastly lower budgets of each installment. My fear is that the low performance of FFVII Retrilogy and FFXVI will mean that SE goes back to making their games more like FFXV which sold so many more copies - it's not unusual for execs to start connecting the wrong dots with their products' success or lack thereof. Either way, I'm at a very low point in seeing much good for the future of the series.

the too much game thing is very true for me. the feeling is "wow this is a large game I will really need to dedicate time too so I can really experience the whole package!" which then for me Im now waiting for a really nice time to play it, which as an adult there is never 80+ hours available for games anymore :/ so most likely I wont play it

I'm kind of in the 'too much side content' camp for Rebirth. While I enjoyed most of the minigames, there was just way too much overall. We have the Gold Saucer as a mini game hub to go to, there really wasn't a need to pile up mini game upon mini game in the overworld as well. By the time I reached Cosmo Canyon I basically skipped on all the side content because I just wanted to finish the freaking story. So if they decide to drop some of the side content in favor of the story and pacing, I really wouldn't mind that. There is something as 'too much' as well and a little less would benefit part 3 in my opinion.

I hope square enix understands that a lot of americans are suffering from a failing economy, and dont decide to ax our favorite games because they thought people just dont like them..

Underpreforming BECAUSE IT IS A NEW STORYLINE NOBODY WANTED. Updated graphics like final fantasy 15 world roaming scaled down and updated cutscenes is all that was needed.

Two things: 1) All the sales numbers that are sited are physical copies. To my knowledge, I haven't seen any online copy numbers. I would imagine those would be a lot higher. 2) I wouldn't point a new player to the OG simply because they are two completely different play stayles. I know a lot of people in my circle would be turned off to the series if they played the OG first because of the turn based system.

"There's literally no way to prove or disprove any of this at the current time." The IGN interview with Nojima where he explains that Crisis Core isn't part of the Remake canon "because" the Re-series takes place in a different world than any of the other games pretty much confirms that this isn't a traditional remake and that all of the alternate theories are pretty big cope. It's just standard multi-worlds nonsense, guys....

"Volume of quality content." Texture Pop-in all over the place. No moving Foilage/grass. Super blurry Performance Mode. We playing the same game? Seems like they gave us the PS4 Version on accident. O.o

I personally don't think any part will be affected. However,it may mean waiting longer for it to come out.

The community is already split over the way Rebirth ended. I know for a fact a fair amount of people are less stoked for pt3 than they were for Rebirth. If the reviews come out for pt3 and they are poorer than Rebirth because they sacrificed quality to make it run on all platforms that would be a disaster

I want more whisper fever dreams and Cait Sith puzzles.

What they can do is, go multiplatform. As much as I like exclusives, because it incentives one brand over another, it can serve to tarnish. When it comes to full potential in sales, going multi while part 3 releases can be wise. Also, they are releasing three games filled with unnecesary excess content that brings little to nothing to the overall FF7 experience. The grand idea of Square deciding to do this based on ambition does not mean the consumer base is going to buy into it. No, i don't wan't to play 30 mini games, no i don't wan't to do an annoying stealth sequence to get a chocobo in each region, no i don't wan't the boring, "open world clichés" all regions in the game are subjected to.

I bought a PS5 specifically to play FF7 Rebirth. Also bought Remake on day one. Sony gets a lot of my money for these games. I hope they can keep going strong.

I think Part 3 may not cost as much due to a lot of the assets already been there. If Square is smart they will reuse assets from Remake and also Rebirth like how Nibelheim assets were made for Remake and then were reused in Rebirth. Or they could potentially reuse Crisis Core Reunion assets. The assets are beautiful anyway. I know you do mention this. As someone who has nearly done this 100% it is a bit overwhelming and some of this is tedious bullshit. However when I progressed the story I almost had goosebumps so take that as to how high quality I think the main campaign is

Pretty sure they’ve already signed with and been paid by Sony for part 3.

I think we all care deeply about the series at this point. Its natural we want the trilogy to go out with a bang after two stellar entries where one happened to be the best reviewed FF in two decades. And with that comes allot of uncertainty because sadly the video game climate isn't good, online discourse is clickbait and drama focused and FF has gathered allot of very weird old fans that have stopped buying any of their games for years now but still actively stalk the franchise and taint public perception. But I have to stick with Max here who said that the budget is fixed and I agree with NSP when he says that they would obliterate their company if suddenly FF7R Part 3 releases as a scope contained dud. At the end of the day FF7 is a company pride thing. You worry about the sales over the long run. Even Witcher 3 had a huge amount of its sales come in years down the line with the Netflix show and community appreciation for the game. I will say this though. Enough is enough with the weird old 'FF fans' that loathe any direction SE takes yet keep engaging in online discussion. It has created a very negative stigma around the franchise and online discussion. Everytime I see a video covering whatever FF game it's full of people chiming into the comments at length at their displeasure. These people usually engage in days long arguments with people. I've been guilty of this aswell. You want to discuss because you hope that the other side sees reason. But I think there's more to the issue than just people lacking a different perspective.

@lostvayne9146

19 күн бұрын

what's actually truly weird is people thinking a large corporation such as square enix is somehow always at the edge of going financially backrupt. This is the only company that gets this delusional conclusion and people dramatize it. Its like we are looking at this company as some tiny indie studio. large corporations or enterprises/industries like square, ubisoft, EA, google, hollywood etc do not go under. Trust in the conspiracy that there is always corrupted money lying around. Everywhere. This is the reality. Too large to fail. "I think we all care deeply about the series at this point." people care about it because people do not like to not know. The continual mystery, not knowing and to see what they will change versus not change is why people are staying. FF is also a magnet of drama and people love that. but a genuine deep care for the series? nope. This is not specifically FF. Its 2024. Through an abundance of entertainment comes the consequence of dilution and oversaturation. Onto the next thing. Old FF7 came from a different era where people retained real passion to their hobbies. People dream in their heads of the things they love. They fanfic in their heads, buy all the merchandise and this instills the product into the culture. Not today. Not this generation. I repeat. Its 2024. Once all is said and done, the drama peters out. Everything becomes quiet. People will move on and you will realize people cared more about the unknown, the drama that surrounds the product and the company rather than to truly immerse themselves into the fantasy they are consuming.

@Zelink108

19 күн бұрын

Lately there has been a lot of speculation about how Square is doing. Let's see what they themself say and plan. * At the meeting convened on March 27, 2024, the Board of Directors of Square Enix Holdings voted, in light of the myriad changes underway in the environment surrounding its Group, to revise the Group's approach to the development of high-definition (HD) games with the intention of being more selective and focused in the allocation of development resources. As a result of a close examination of the Group's development pipeline taken in keeping with this revised approach, the Company expects to recognize approximately ¥22.1 billion in content abandonment losses on its books for the fiscal year ended March 2024. What does it mean? The company canceled a bunch of games that it doubted were profitable. Kiryu said last year that Square is developing too many middle-class games, and he doesn’t like it: he thinks that it is necessary either economically, or AAA. At the same time, the latest investor report emphasizes that the middle class is not being abandoned: * Keep and build on the fan bases for our major franchises by regularly releasing AAA titles * Release mid-class titles based on strategies for individual lineups, prioritizing profitability * Explore additionally leveraging our Group's rich library of IP * Be bold in attempting to create a new IP, prioritizing novel forms of excitement and striking the right balance with earnings potential * Building continuous customer contact points of our titles by stepping up digital sales. The Group will strengthen user flow of digital sales of new titles at the time of launch regarding the initiatives of promotion. In addition, it will generate the opportunity of generating revenue in our rich catalog titles' line-up, which leads to strengthen its earnings base by expanding sales of catalog titles. Moreover, the Group will engage in initiatives which focus on the acquisition of PC users. In short, Square realized which platform was blessed, and decided to sell their old games on Steam to everyone in the world. Is there any word in the report that 16 or Rebirth performed poorly? Nope. * In the HD (High-Definition) sub-segment, consolidated net sales for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2024 increased compared with the previous fiscal year due to the release of titles including “FINAL FANTASY XVI,” “FINAL FANTASY PIXEL REMASTER, ” “DRAGON QUEST MONSTERS: The Dark Prince,” and “FINAL FANTASY VII REBIRTH.” The MMO segment has sank, but this is logical; nothing came out this year (or, in fact, two). Mobile phones have also not achieved success. As a result, everything is stable for Square in terms of money, only there is less profit, because the games were canceled for 140 lyams. Well, in the NPD chart, which somehow takes into account both physical copies and digital copies on the American market, Rebirth is in fourth place in the list of best-selling games of the year (behind Helldivers, Kolda and the second dogma). So if someone is lying to you about the failure of FF16 or Rebirth, ask him for proof greater than just some spouting of Twitter roosters.

@mikev8746

17 күн бұрын

@@Zelink108 This was a great read thanks! Especially the executive report shed some extra light that I had not read about yet. And yes it does make it sound like it's not so much a Rebirth/16 problem. And more a company wide issue. Though I'm still certain it didn't sell amazingly. So it didn't make up for the companies failings. Which they probably didn't like. But for us the fans of FF7/FF/16 etc. This probably means nothing will be affected. If all this is true and I interpreted it correctly.

@Zelink108

17 күн бұрын

@@mikev8746 Wait till Rebirth and XVI get PC releases, sales should shoot up.

@mikev8746

14 күн бұрын

@@Zelink108 Oh for sure. I remember how it went for Remake too lol. We had the same doom and gloom. And now we're touting 7 million lifetime sales. I think FF16 was now said to have surpassed 5 million? I remember last summer I was witness to the flame war as people joked it couldn't even hit 4 million. And now it's being compared to Rebirth favorably. I feel like we will just see the same repeat. Maybe we wont even get proper data but when Part 3 releases and ships 2 million copies people will compare it to Rebirth and say that game has done 6 million lol.

I was stoked for rebirth and would already have it… if it was available for PC!!

From what I’ve seen a lot of people prefer to play it on PC because of mods. Assuming that this is the case, if rebirth happens to pop up on PC then it’ll prove that exclusivity is the problem

A massive consideration here is the number of PS4’s vs. PS5’s. It’s about half the number of PS5’s. Any comparison in sales numbers must be looked at in that light. From that, and the rumored initial numbers for Rebirth, it has comfortably out performed Remake. And I suspect it’ll have a longer staying power than Remake given its massive leap in quality (no shade at Remake, Rebirth is just that good).

the only thing the game needed less of, was non gold saucer minigames. my wishlist thing to reduce are non companion character side quests.

I think Part 3s scope and budget are locked in and will be fine, I can see it being delayed a year later to get a PC port same day as PS5 release. Going forward into FF17 is where you'll see the new direction PS5/PC/Switch 2. A more stylized art style with an iterated battle system from Rebirth

Exclusive platform allows them to concentrate on a single version of hardware and optimize it... I dont really care if part 3 is multiplatform at release as long as they dont compromise performance to make it work on other platforms...

A budget cut wouldnt be all that bad as long they cut out the right parts. Like we dont need all those minigames to return. If anything only minigames thats should stay are the same ones you find in gold saucer slightly tweaked, add the snowboarding one as that is something that will happen in the story, keep queens blood, and drop moogles. None of the other mini games should make a return. Just keep polishing the combat and add more unique materia. Most of the map is reusable already. The highwind doesnt even need to land just let them drop a ladder down for landings lol.

It’s funny it was nearly the same for Kingdom Hearts. Being that the first two games were only on PlayStation and then the third game being Multiplatform.

I appreciate what they did with the remakes but I do feel they went a little too hard. Now they’ve put themselves in a corner for the 3rd entry

@supersaiyaman11589

18 күн бұрын

can you explain more of what you mean by a little to hard. with remake and rebirth.

I hope that something happens to make part 3 a huge hit

But problem is the financial report is released barely 1 month after the game telease. While when tue remake came up in April rhe financial report is release 1 year after. I myself havent got my copy yet. Because i just bought the console.

I was trying to wait for all 3 to be out before I buy it on PC. Got remake intergrade after I got a steam deck. Now waiting for 2 and 3 to become available on Steam lol

Just release it along with the PC. I think they'll find a way to bounce back.

@DewaHuang

19 күн бұрын

I'm sure if SE go multiplat day 1 (PS+PC) they'll expect sales to even up And I don't think it will met their expectation too

Why do people attribute the game’s underperformance to solely to it being exclusive? Why don’t people factor in the departure from the original that people of the original have issues with? Honestly as much as I love the new take they are taking with the trilogy, I don’t believe it’s it being exclusive that’s the issue. Let’s not forget that SE is NOTORIOUS for having unrealistic performance expectations for their big games. Remember what they thought about tomb raider and it selling 15mil was considered a failure by SE? And there’s examples of a few other games where the game sold well, even charted, but they still conferred them failures because of their lofty expectations. Their financial mess has more to do with their poor management and endeavors in NFTs, chasing that GaaS dragon and canceling projects they sunk money into.

@pandaeyez

19 күн бұрын

Because it is being critically acclaimed, it scored 92 with critics and 9.0 with users So something doesnt add up. A game being critically acclaimed should sell well - the only explanation is limited marketability and commercial potential. Along with it being a PS exclusive, it is also part 2 of a remake, and FF while being well known is still a niche IP among the mainstream culture of gaming. Every time a new FF game comes out, there are always people asking "do I have to play the other FF games to play this one?" So take that and amplify it with Rebirth being a sequel of a remake, its going to limit its sales too. The Remake trilogy will sell well over time. It is a unique product with a unique situation. Once the the third and final game comes out, not only will the full picture be seen but it will be ready for all to experience and PS exclusivity will be over. A case in point is the original FFVII and FFX. Despite their reputation today, they did not actually sell highly when they were first released. FVII got around by word of mouth and accumulated sales over 2 decades. As for FFX, it was bundled and rebundled and remastered on every console and also accumulated massive sales. The same thing will happen with the remake trilogy.

@aeolussvichi7680

19 күн бұрын

@@pandaeyez didn’t we learn anything about how critical acclaim or quality doesn’t translate to sales? A lot of good games were considered failures by publishers. SE is notorious for that, though MS is looking to take that title after their hifi fiasco. If you look at SEs report they put out, despite the lower than expected sales (according to SEs lofty expectations), XVI and rebirth are still the only games they made money on despite them being exclusive to ps5. It just wasn’t enough to offset their other losses and poor decisions which according to them means it was a failure 🤷‍♂️

I actually agree that rebirth was extremely bloated with mini games and other additional side content which I never thought I would say! Slightly off topic but my husband and I were talking about how with the financial landscape changing so much that square should consider going back to their animation roots. Very simple graphics during gameplay and having beautiful cinematic scenes during crucial story telling events. But this time they have more options during the simple graphics. For instance they could go pixelated but they could also go more stylized like zelda. Honestly I didn’t know it till now but I actually enjoy the more abstract nature of the simplistic graphics during gameplay. Though I don’t know how well it would be received by younger players. But with cozy games taking off at the moment it might not be half bad.

Theres also a lot of people who are sitting back and waiting for all of VII Remake to be finished before buying any of them

Man you really make me think what they may be planning on changing in the ending of the third part to increase overall player reception. Particularly if they want to boost through the bottleneck sales of people waiting or wary about jumping into a planned trilogy. The landing of the 3rd part will most likely completely define lifetime sales of the trilogy.

I'm honestly curious: Will we have a DLC for Rebirth? And if so, what is particularly good for it?

If FF7R3 has a few less minigames than Rebirth I wouldn't mind. It would be hard to get me excited about returning to the same regions as Rebirth and having to do World Intel all over again. Just give me some good story-based side quests and a few superbosses and I'm good.

Hello DLC Fest for part 3

I’m 316hrs in and got one last VR mission to do.

Shame that only reason rebirth underperformed is not having access to large player base that PS4 had. They would have had to go multi platform with launch to match or exceed remake. They need to, at very least, get PC version out asap to expand rebirths reach sooner the better.

No, no, don't worry. I'm all for toning-down the extra bullshit for Part 3. Although, I do need to correct you on something... Hamaguchi said that the world map is being completely rebuilt to accommodate the scale of the Highwind. So, unfortunately that will still be a major expense, even more so now because it's obviously going to be significantly bigger in scale than ever before. It's because of this alone is why I know some major corners and overall content is going to be reluctantly cut.

::Posted this on the FB, and adding here for more thoughts:: So some thoughts**this is going to be me very much talking out my ass but as I understand it**, a lot of people are saying "well the numbers would be up if they did multi-plat yada yada yada". My thoughts on this is that, "is Sony covering the estimated amount plus some that they are assuming they would have made on an 18 months basis for Xbox?"(I'm focusing on an 18 month basis due to the fact that it was brought up they're still hoping to reach a certain amount of sold units for XVI for their 18 month goal) If that's the case, I'mma be real, the fact of the matter is, the games are just not selling, period and even if they did release on Xbox, it's probably more likely that there would be less units sold. Additionally, they don't historically release FF titles on PC the same years as the initial release. It's typically something like 2 years later. This makes me curious, if they then have to adjust dev time for an all around simu release, how much gain is needed then and if they could make it within their goals.

Part 3 is going to be released in the end of this generation, which means a bigger installed base of PS5's. It could end up selling more. But I think Square also has a serious issue with their expectations...

At this point I'm just hoping that Part 3 makes it onto PS5 so we can have all the chapters on the same platform. If not, then Square Enix will probably have to re-release the first two parts again for PS6, or on whichever system the game is available.

fewer mini-games and just 1-2 open world map will do, not for every chapter... ultimately we are looking for more storytelling than side content gaming for the finale