This event was huge for Junhwan Cha and Haein Lee. Coming off very successful Worlds, they solidified their status as top skaters in their respective fields at this event. For Haein, it was a particularly big deal, because she came out ahead of Kaori (even though Kaori obviously made errors here - she was obviously tired after a long and frankly difficult season). I am glad for this, because there were so many shifting gears this season as to who's going to rise to the occasion, and it's good to see new stars finally having emerged so that next season we can really get to the business of who's going to maximize their momentum throughout the quad.

Totally agree! The ISU KZread channel should not be blocked in the USA. NBC should air figure skating more. The sport doesn't get the airtime it deserves. It's such a shame. 😞

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@nicnoodles

Жыл бұрын

It really is ridiculous, I missed it because of that. Shouldn’t have to buy a VPN and hook up a computer to watch! I did watch Worlds Gala surprisingly that was aired on Peacock last event but not this one they did not show the gala. Oh well been catching clips ppl post online.

@wotanworld5504

Жыл бұрын

I obviously agree. Even if it is blocked during the competition but they could at least post the videos a week or two after the competition. It is ridiculous really!

@nicnoodles

Жыл бұрын

@@andreagoldstein4070 if it runs on a tablet can it run on iPhone as well you think? I prefer to watch on a big TV but that could be fixed by mirroring I suppose. 😁

@tcduong1138

Жыл бұрын

I realized that the ISU is taking completely the wrong approach to media. For most media, the buyer are advertisers and the commodity is our eyeballs. The real money is how valuable and how many eyeballs are on that sport. The fewer number of eyeballs and the less visibility of the sport, the less money everyone makes. It is completely inane for a mass media thing to put it behind paywalls. Whatever money you lose from subscriptions, you gain from advertising dollars. And what ends up happening is that you get more eyeballs and more momentum for people to want to see the sport in real time and even live. But the ISU and NBC would rather go after small subscription dollars than big advertising. And then the sport shrinks even more.

The WTT had all of the feels! I cried for Keegan leaving, Alexa and Brandon and their moment, the love and support for Todd Sand,.. so much!

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Very impressive competition for Alexa and Brandon, both programs were so world class with incredible elements like those throws, and they still have more potential. They built even more momentum for themselves here and would be a favorite for a World medal again next year. I really think they're underestimating themselves and selling themselves short. I really wish Alexa didn't have to move to Illinois so fast for the sake of a regular job and family so that this phenomenal pair could seriously consider another season. A devastating loss if this is it, especially given they've only competed around 15 competitions together. My heart can't take never seeing Alexa again, she's such a special pair skater and looks better than ever on the ice. I could watch those throws all day.

Great to see proper skating skills, good posture, technique and air position triumph in Matteo being judged decisively higher than his compatriot.

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Dave, thank you for explaining the KZread algorithms. side note: NBC is so short sighted not to broadcast the World Team Trophy. Of all skating events, it is the most spirited, most fun, plus shorter than a traditional compeittion. It is the perfect event for "novice" fans that we want to attract to the sport. I stick to the ISU KZread channel (which I needed to set up a VPN to access). Once you learn the tricks of searching the ISU KZread channel it becomes your best friend. I am worried about how "Recast" is going to mess this all up.

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

You’re welcome

@moyocoyotzin7001

Жыл бұрын

Yes! You could really tell that the skaters let loose during the competition and just had fun with it!

My theory about Jason, he will stay in competition until there is a very strong second male skater in the US who emerges to take his place. He seems pretty devoted to Team USA. I heard him mention in one interview that he even tried a few quads and might train them. (It was a long interview -- I think Golden Skate -- and I got the impression that he was dealing with an injury the year prior to the Olympics that he never spoke about publically but now has an intense off ice training regimen that has gotten him into the best shape of his life).

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

He had a broken foot/ankle the summer prior to Beijing.

@youarestronger

Жыл бұрын

May we all be that lucky!! But please no Josh Groban. Thank you.

@MsAMusicLover

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson you are the only guys that seem to report that (I am a preety good Jason stalker but don't read all the Japanese stuff) -- but that tracks his vague "injury" comments in the Golden Skate interview. Jason seems big on keeping his injuries private, which is not a bad idea.

@MsAMusicLover

Жыл бұрын

@@youarestronger with ya. Time for a new long program.

@jjh2456

Жыл бұрын

God I would love that. No he doesn’t have the quads but there is just something so special he brings to the sport that honestly can’t be quantified.

I feel like Jun-Hwan Cha has the technique and dance ability to be a great performer, but his facial expressions and connection to the audience are a bit lacking. Especially in the MJ program, I wanted to see him looking at the crowd more and communicating the cool, confident vibe of the song to match his movements. He's such a fun skater to watch, and I can't wait to see him continue to grow and hopefully make it to 2026!

@jackmorrine

Жыл бұрын

he's still young (despite being in senior circuit since 16), let him grow more confident...

@lisamaureen5185

Жыл бұрын

That MJ program is one of my favorites ever! Love it!

@youarestronger

Жыл бұрын

He is the next Hanyu...give it time. He is a diva.

22:32 THANK YOU! Peacock and ISU seem to say, "if you really are a fan of figure skating, then you should skip work and the pause your life to watch it

I loved this event! Always look forward to it, and all the silliness is actually a fun and refreshing change at the end of the season. A moment for me was Alexa taking Ilia's quad god cap off when team USA were doing the winner's interview (Jason was speaking Japanese to the interviewer on behalf of the team). It really highlighted the age and maturity difference and variety in this event - was like mama bear reminding her kid to be respectful lol. I really like seeing the teams together and everyone's personalities more. Highlights here were Jason as always, Kaori as team leader and the Korean team in general! Junhwan Cha and Haein Lee in particular, but also loved the dance team and was happy Yelim had a bit of a redemption skate after a few rough competitions. All in all a great way to end the season :)

@susanpola6150

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely agree - love this competition

@moyocoyotzin7001

Жыл бұрын

I also loved Alexa taking Illia's quad god hat off of him! Did you notice that when it was Ilia's turn to receive his scores the other the skaters rooting for him from Team USA were Jason and his own mother? I wonder if those other athletes were sending a message that they want to distance themselves from supporting him because of his behavior and attitude?

Dave. I’m so proud of your pronunciation of Haein Lee!

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Chock and Bates built momentum with 4CC while Piper and Paul lost momentum from the injury. I don't think there was a question in my mind that they were on their way to the title. Piper and Paul would have gotten better scores in the later seasons if they were just able to show their faces at competitions.

During the watch of the Chock & Bates' long program - I realized half way through that it almost appeared that her body movement was creating the music; the ebb and flow of the music matched her body movements perfectly, it was amazing. So many of the dance pairs looked like they skated to the music while C&B created the music through movement.. I also enjoyed C&B's program because they have moved beyond the simplicity of portraying a character from a movie, etc and have developed a more abstract thought-provoking theme!

@slumberland969

Жыл бұрын

I noticed that too. I love how they always push their programs to be original and unconventional. They are such a beautiful team they could easily skate to standard themes and be rewarded but instead choose a more challenging aesthetic 😊

@ahavens2463

Жыл бұрын

Yes! I think they are so underrated by judges. C&B are art in motion. They were underscored in Olympics IMO.

@NG-ue4th

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I actually was quite undecided cause how much the program was shifting throughout the season but when I saw it in world championships I was actually really enjoying it (until the twizzles began obv) so it was really enjoyable to watch a cleaner veraion of it in wtt The first portion of the fs was especially mesmerising to me.

@shewhocreatesherself

Жыл бұрын

I agree! I don't understand the hate for Chock and Bates from this channel and of their free dance this year. Can someone point out skates showing where Madi can't skate and Evan can't dance??? I get that they've had to make a lot of changes to it this season, from the story it tells, to the music, the choreography, and then the costumes. I don't love the music, but I love how much they had to fight for this free dance this year. They really made it beautiful for Nationals, World's and World Team Trophy. Their alien skate was my favorite. First skate I saw them perform when I decided to watch U.S. Nationals last year.

What an amazing tournament that was ❤ I had so much fun watching 🥰

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Yes it was

Even though I haven't been watching skating, I still look forward to This&That for updates: a way to "watch" without actually watching. Every week, I agree with maybe 90% of what you both say, but it feels hopeless to wish for big changes.

This season has been one of the most emotional seasons. You could really see the skaters putting in alot of work.

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Oh yes!

@Edward-W

Жыл бұрын

Very true. Let's hope we get many more seasons like this!

이해인 Lee Haein. Lee is her family name, Haein is her given name. In Korea, people call someone's name in the order of surname-given name. While writing the name in western way, her surname was written as Lee at the end of a name, but when Lee comes forward, it is pronounced as [yi] in Korea. Her given nave Haein is pronouced like [hæin]. So actually in Korea, people call her [yi] [hæin].

You really hit home to me with the broadcast conversation. The way people watch television is so very different than it used to be. Also, in these difficult financial times people often have to get rid of extras just to afford the day to day. I currently pay nothing for television because I am unemployed. I only had Netflix and Peacock anyway but have dropped both. I am a skating fan that kind of drifted away from the sport for the last few years. I recently started watching again but got frustrated with the lack of in demand availability of Peacock as well as the lack of commentary - I’ve been away a while so I need the commentator giving me info. I’m also an avid gymnastics fan so I THOUGHT I could use KZread for skating just like I do gym. There is very little geo blocking or videos being pulled (except for pac 12 network) so you can really keep up with gym even if you can’t afford other options. It’s very frustrating and disappointing that you can’t do the same with skating. The only thing I got to see was junior worlds and a handful of world’s highlight reels this whole year and I hate that this sport is so very short sighted on this.

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

💯

OMG I’ve been so sick. This weather is kicking my ass. Feel better!

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Feel better!!

28:30 I loved how Belinda said it and I even got it as a casual fan of the sport!

On the subject of streaming/media for skating: I follow another sport very closely that has an extremely well-done App and I think that's a place the ISU could really improve the skating fan experience. Adding time zone conversions, connections to google/outlook/apple calendar events, a video tab with highlights, integrating the news feed to include federation accounts vs. just ISU, having articles/quizzes/prediction activities before events..all ideas to increase excitement and ease of participating. Also, this other sport has live text updates during events for those unable to watch live, and I think that could be really cool. Overall the app could actually be a great resource for this sport, and it falls so so so flat...

After hearing that Belinda (and Mark, as she says) spend so much time researching every (!) competitor and “practising” saying names thousand times before each competition, the repetitive ‘Mai Miyahara’ and ‘what a great athlete’ sounds like nothing more than a lack of professionalism. Belinda was so right that commentating has to be about ‘people’ and that's what viewers get drawn into. Fluffing is nice as long as it has substance, which is only possible with thorough research and constructive analysis of technical/judging rules etc. Hearing the generic “this young man’s time will come with more practice and effort and hard work” gives us little excitement or satisfaction, and to me simply superficial or even rude, 😢especially to the athletes...

It’s quite bizarre that Australia has better access to free viewing of skating than the US. ISU KZread is often geoblocked but at least the broadcaster app is free and unlimited (if a little glitchy at times).

@awuma

Жыл бұрын

It's very good in Poland.

Excellent info on how the KZread algorithm can benefit skating. Thanks for the insight, fellas!👐

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Our pleasure!

I did not expect the homophobia towards Jason brown in the live chat. It made no sense. You're watching figure skating, have some self awareness.

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Terrible!

@JoshuaFazeli

Жыл бұрын

We built this city 🌆 on the gays, Michelle, and Dick Button rants.

@Jeremy-wp4yh

Жыл бұрын

@@eeeeeeeeeee2 it was mostly Russian accounts. Jason brown was low hanging fruit for them. It was the usual hate because their athletes are banned

@nvadqs

Жыл бұрын

I didn't see it. But it is true that I arrived 15 mins into it. Was it before that? I can't believe anybody would do something like that!

@Jeremy-wp4yh

Жыл бұрын

@@nvadqs if you were watching live, you would see the comments during the warm up and finally once he hit the ice. Specifically the programme where he popped or stepped out of one jump. Not sure if that's the short or free.

I am listening to this a month later after finally watching the team event. Funny that I was just in a therapy session with someone who professed that global warming is not real and the ice caps are forming in the south pole 🙄. Thank you for helping me recover from that person's stupidity within the first 2 minutes. I am happy this was the first video that came up on my KZread feed

Preach the tv and streaming issues for figure skating. 👏👏

The only reason I have Peacock is to watch figure skating. Just disappointing I have to hurry up and watch the replays before they take it down. I want to be able to go back and watch competitions. Thank God for YT.

Great show, guys.

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Considering the Torvill and Dean thing...when I hear someone say something like "oh they shouldn't have _all_ been perfect 6.0s" or so-and-so "shouldn't have gotten that many 6.0s(or whatever particular score)", I always immediately wonder which ones they think should be different. If you think they shouldn't have a full board of perfect scores, then you should logically have an opinion on how many scores should be different and which judges they should be.

Excellent show today. Regarding drilling edges, as a competitive skater in eastern Canada a lonnngg time ago 😜 every session had 15 minutes of full on “stroking” between compulsory ice dance and freestyle. Kind of akin to Tracy’s edge class but not as sophisticated. It was not optional. It’s maintenance and makes all the sense. I used to see the parallel watching Tessa and Scott warm up with their Russian (yikes, sorry) stroking.

@theodorecraig546

Жыл бұрын

I skated in the prairies and this is how it was as well. When I was really young that seemed to be how all the clubs nearby operated. But from roughly 2010-2015, most clubs switched away from doing daily stroking. Around the same time, much less focus was put on dance and there stopped being scheduled times where everyone had to practice dance. Seems like the rural clubs held onto this 'older' way of doing skating longer than the city clubs, at least in my area.

@kittysk8s73

Жыл бұрын

@@theodorecraig546 Yes, likely linked to the removal of patch and addition of the skills? Which makes sense.

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Sounds great!

@eljj7968

Жыл бұрын

I had to do this when I briefly lived in Canada as a teenager too! The sessions were really structured with freestyle, stroking and dance, and everyone had to do everything, with private lessons just on the freestyle. This would have been 2007.

@kittysk8s73

Жыл бұрын

@@eljj7968 Exactly right!

All week I've been think that Kazuki needs to visit the cricket club. He needs Tracy. He's so wonderful but his lack of consistency is holding him back. I've never paid much attention to Matteo Rizzo until this year. His skating is nice and it looked like he was enjoying his programs. Moving forward I'd like to see what else he can do. While I enjoyed his programs this year I feel like they have penultimate group vibes (if that makes sense) when he has what it takes to be in that final flight. I love all your ideas for docuseries lol I'd love to see Jason and Rohene working together, the rivalry between the Frenchmen, etc. I think after a long, strange, and oftentimes frustrating season I'm glad it ended on a good note. I enjoyed Worlds (the men's event especially which is currently my favorite discipline. I, like Belinda, was very emotional about it all lol) and seeing the skaters support their teammates and celebrate skating here at WTT. I'm looking forward to next season with these new rivalries (Kaori & Haein) and new leading skaters (Junhwan) and the next generation of ice dance (I love the junior Czech team too. I think they'll be a force come 2026). Enjoyed listening to this convo!!

I too will be very curious to see where the junior Czech team falls next season. So dynamic, exiting, unique

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Us too!

@Plaspos

Жыл бұрын

Where they SHOULD fall is first and second with the Taschlerovi at Euros. Obviously won’t happen because of politics but that’s what would be right

Belinda and Mark "know" the sport. Mark does research. He was the ONLY commentator who knew that Kazuki's DF was based on the cartoon "Tom and Jerry at the Hollywood Bowl"..which he mentioned last Fall during the French GP..Ted kept saying it was "serious"..Jonathan has pointed out that it is "low brow", one example. Ted..is better than Johnny and Tara..though he did not mention Eteri's name.

haein lee was lovely!

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Yes, the limited availability of 5-hour broadcasts was soooo annoying. At one point I realized at 9:00 pm that I had just a few hours left to watch the end of the second day and so I had to fast forward through several performances and every gap before scores were announced to make it.

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

💯

Is anyone who makes decisions for the ISU actually thinking about how to grow the sport, or at the very least how to prevent it from collapsing entirely?

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Would love to know!

Dave I agree with you that if you are up for learning a new program then it is good to do so because you can always go back to the old one. It would be much harder if you just stick with the old one and then later want to learn a new one. Learning a new one now, even just a little bit, gives you flexibility. I’m enjoying the Instagram videos of your progress. There is such a big difference now from a few months ago. You seem so much more self possessed and assured on the ice.

Didn't quite understand if you meant Daisuke should skate in Yuzu's show. I doubt that would ever happen. That's even less likely than Marin doing ice dance. Neither will ever happen...Just read that Adam was coping with a foot injury since Worlds. Wondered why his jumps looked SO off -- off axis, just off. 😪

Paul and Piper really fizzled. Their Evita had lots of potential but the climatic parts of Evita had no “wow” moves.

@youarestronger

Жыл бұрын

She had a serious injury and surgery. Rude

@shewhocreatesherself

Жыл бұрын

I agree. It was well done and elegant, but not bold. I took it as nostalgic. I wasn't mad at their Gran Prix Finale gold medal. They earned it.

Kazuki is having his new sp choreographed by a new choreographer according to article. Something "calmer" like Cin/Par..

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Good!!

It's so frustrating that we can't easily access figure skating in the US. In the days where cable was just taking off, NBC always did a broadcast on Saturday and Sunday on the regular network NBC so anyone could watch it Then ABC, who had rights to a lot of ice shows, would throw up a competing ice show on network ABC so anyone can watch it. I miss the accessibility of those days

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

:(

Fun fact : Wtt 2019 was the competition were Adam Siao Him Fa landed the first 4Lz by a Frenchman.

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Very cool!

I really want to see Kostornaia succeed in pairs. I just hope dating her partner won't complicate things. Feel better Dave. I've had a nasty sinus infection the past few days so there's something going around.

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

@youarestronger

Жыл бұрын

Covid is going around. Still here

@Plaspos

Жыл бұрын

The partner is not good enough. Khodykin is available apparently

Amber's free is constipated music..I would..in truth..pull out some Tonya Harding videos.(not the one where she did the quad).skate to strong powerful music..not everything has to have a "message". She has great qualities...capitalize on them. Isabeau looked so happy to be w "the team"..like a happy kid..I'd like to see more of that.

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@alexac3098

Жыл бұрын

Tonya never did a quad…

@maryloureiff6489

Жыл бұрын

@@alexac3098 Um...

@alexac3098

Жыл бұрын

@@maryloureiff6489 What? She did the triple axel for awhile. She never did a quad. Yes I'm aware of her claims on Cameo. Seems like she forgot video is a thing.

@maryloureiff6489

Жыл бұрын

@@alexac3098 Sarcasm 101..

I need all the retired ice dancers to come back to compete in solo dance.

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

100%

I think it’s interesting that you guys are discussing the death in figure skating and how it is difficult to actually watch figure skating (which I agree with) but as a new fan I do think that figure skating is being rediscovered again primarily because of the trending videos on TikTok! The Russian ice dancers Kaganovskaya/ Angelopol seem to always be trending on the platform and after this team event thing (which again I’m a new fan so i still don’t totally understand the sport) I keep getting videos of Ilia Malanin on my fyp! Maybe figure sling in general should focus on promotional material on this platform so it can bring in even more new fans and also young fans. Just a thought!!

I was at Adult Nationals last week and I didn’t get to watch any of the WTT let alone the livestream from AN. They took all of the video down on FanZone. They plan to put it back up with no audio 😢 Watching some of the kiss n cry is a highlight. With no sound it’s going to suck.

Maybe Deanna should just bite the bullet and do Sunset Boulevard.

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

I would LIVE for Deanna skating to Patti.

6:13 do you think Daria will be successful without the Eteri bonus?

@Plaspos

Жыл бұрын

Well she actually is legit in the PCS department so I’d hope so.

The ISU will decide whether Tanya can compete in June OR October. 😂😂😂😂

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Ha!

I love Papadakis/Cizeron, and I think the dance field would benefit greatly if they returned, but they seemed to have settled well in post-competition life. But more so: I really do feel like after what Gabrielle revealed in the documentary, I just don’t know if they are going to compete again. She went through a lot even just to get to the Olympics that season. I think next season is when we’re going to see the Olympic push in ice dance. The senior field was overall really lackluster and stagnated this season, so hoping some of these teams start really making moves with revelatory programs.

@Plaspos

Жыл бұрын

I mean they still skate together in shows right?

My moment of the week: Team Korea, all the way baby (esp haein lee's fs and yelim kim's redemption fs). Congratulations on that very well deserved silver 🎉 My moment of the week (NOT) : Ted; literally every freaking word that came out of his mouth managed to somehow annoy me...that man can literally ruin my excitement for watching just by opening his mouth, sigh...

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

So great to see!

@alexac3098

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I am all in on the Yelim Kim hype train! I could watch her Ina Bauers forever.

@christinethorp3684

Жыл бұрын

Yes, Ted was really sucking the fun out of the competition for me! Since when does he talk during programs? The only reason he was tolerable during the Junior Grand Prix events was because he stopped talking as soon as the skater was introduced. How is there NOT a better commentator for skating available?!?

@MsAMusicLover

Жыл бұрын

Mark/Belinda, one or both, should commentate (is that a word:) all the figure skating all the time. There is no other answer.

@Plaspos

Жыл бұрын

PJ Kwong who does the Olympics and Universaide is good

Papadakis/Cizeron comeback is be the best thing that could happen to ice dance right now. It would make me cry out of joy!

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

💯💯

@etherealtb6021

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson But why would they want to come back? They've done everything and Gabriella's comments last year seemed like she was over it.

@jamesyu5212

Жыл бұрын

​@@etherealtb6021 to shut virtue&moir fans who think they're the best thing since the invention of sliced bread.

@youarestronger

Жыл бұрын

Omg..if they came back, I would actually watch dance

@youarestronger

Жыл бұрын

@@etherealtb6021 well the judging was corrupt as hell as usual...cannot blame anyone and they want to add singles ..

KZread is the key for the expansion of figure skating. Keep it free for all countries. For the US, they don't put any effort into the Peacock app( no comentary, no timestamps, etc...) Its terrible. I would pay for it if it was actually good.

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

As a figure skating fan from Ohio real close to Columbus like close enough that I'm interested in going to Nationals. I am keeping a close watch on who is staying who's going and who's coming up because like I don't want to go to everything but I would like to go to some stuff and I'm just going to say that if Jason Brown doesn't seem like he's sticking around another season competitively, I may not choose the men's event

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Understood!

Since Mao Asada is restoring her 3A, perhaps Japan can entice her to come back to compete and we’ll get some added edge, presentation & program quality back.

@Plaspos

Жыл бұрын

I hope not. I mean she’s my favorite skater but ISU never gave her the PCS she deserved

Dave, You said last year that USFS should do whatever necessary to keep Jason on board and boy were you right. He had a great year and we did too watching him, especially at World's. He has to stay. This year is all he needs to make that happen!

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

I feel like if Deanna and Max don't get the consistency I think other up and coming teams in Canada will overcome them before the next olympics, specifically the other two teams that were at worlds. This competition felt so light and fun, you see more of skaters personality and I love that.

Dave, what did u mean when u said “At that rink (Boston)u have to wear the vest and the whole kitten-kabootle”? What vest?

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Some rinks require you to wear a vest when skating your program so other skaters know you have the right of way.

@joannm.1756

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson Oh! Interesting.

What the heck happened to Stephen Gogolev? He had a poor skate but finally managed to crack a smile in the kiss and cry with great support from his team mates. But then he didn't show up to support his team mate Keegan Messing performing his final competitive skate nor did he take part in the gala. Seems a bit 'off.'

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Maybe he read Twitter?

@alexac3098

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLessonwell, we at Reddit were wondering if you or Jackie saw that since neither of you had said anything.

@louiseuznanski9145

Жыл бұрын

Stephen was on the ice with his Canadian teammates after Keegan skated his gala program. Didn't notice if he was at Keegan's fs though. Poor kid needs a coaching intervention or something. .

Why is the ISU YT geoblocked? Is it because of the music rights?

@klefalent33

Жыл бұрын

I think it’s because of broadcast rights. In the US they will block anything that NBC/Peacock plans to put up. That’s why we can watch the full World Junior championships but none of the other competitions. NBC didn’t give a crap about the juniors.

@rosie94204

Жыл бұрын

TV rights

TEAM USA 🇺🇸🥇👑

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

🥇

I really hope the ISU doesn't move the video to Recast. KZread is how I watch skating and I love it.

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

🙏

1:02 why not go to Marina zueva, who still has good politicks and can offer piper/paul a new perspective to improve their ice dance (not that they weren't improving, but marina is like improve +more politcal backing)

@Plaspos

Жыл бұрын

Wasn’t she semi retired until Daisuke joined dance? Seems like she wouldn’t take a younger team

@zb6070

Жыл бұрын

@@Plaspos she was coaching tarasova/morozov before

Brandon is just a nice boy..I truly think Todd's illness affected them..him..and it is always sad to say goodbye..to a certain impt part of life...and who will I be?

Let’s get Eun Soo to do dance!

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

💯

You can turn off auto-play on KZread. The mechanism to do that is on every single video.

My 2 cents: I think you should keep your music, Dave! It gels so well with you and you haven't had a chance to really compete it yet! Unless you hate it, lol. Just don't be that adult skater who keeps the same program for 5+ years! 😂

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Ha!

I just want Chock and Bates to stay on through the 2026 Olympics. I really feel like their scores this season were reflective of the low scores they received at the 2022 Olympics. They were robbed. They deserved the bronze medal, if not the silver medal. I can't believe that a boot slip by Madison got them less than 85 points in the rhythm dance... I'm disturbed by the people claiming that they "bought" their numerous wins this season or that they were scored based on favoritism, as if they don't have the potential to win on their own, by their own merit and artistry... Sickening.

@candycane9694

Жыл бұрын

It was a shaky edge during an element, of course it's going to take their score down. Add to that the fact that their skating and edge control doesn't even come close to the ones that made it to the podium. They're a fun and interesting team but there's no way they were above those teams.

@Plaspos

Жыл бұрын

The problem is that in tech and specifically in the midnight blues, both Sinitsina Katsapalov and Hubbell Donohue were significantly better than Papadakis Cizeron. But then in artistry we have the French in 1st then Chock Bates in 2nd. So in my mind either Papadakis/Cizeron should be behind the Russians and H/D (it would never have happened but it should have) or Chock/Bates should be 2nd behind P/C if artistry is king.

@moyocoyotzin7001

Жыл бұрын

@@Plaspos Touche, but the people saying they bought their way to gold medal at Worlds?! That's a bit out of line to me. Seems really unfair too, when you look at how much work they put in to fix their Free Dance and upgraded their rhythm dance, too.

Jonathan..we have to have a talk.

@JohnnyOpera1

Жыл бұрын

Im ALWAYS happy to have a talk with you :)

@maryloureiff6489

Жыл бұрын

ok, byob..

@maryloureiff6489

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyOpera1 🥰

Way to go Team USA🇺🇸🇺🇸. It was a great competition. 🥇🥇

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

❤️

I don’t think y’all talked about how Ilia skated 😂

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Check the video description.

Having read every interview/article from the JPN press on Kazuki..for him things came to a head after NHK..He began working diligently w his trainer..Mr.Sakamoto..and his mindset began to change..He described himself as being "too kind of a competitor..." and they actively worked on simulations.Having been in the shadow of Hanyu, Shoma and then Yuma..w Keiji thrown in..yawn..he did not believe in himself..Plus a very late bloomer..having been rejected 4 or 5 times from JGP circuit.Everyone counted him out from the JPN media..Jackie Wong did not even have him in top 10 at Worlds..But, he is a scrapper..I know he practiced what he learned at CC..whether he would go there..I don't know..

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

🙏🙏

Are you two serious? Dave, Ice Dance is not Singles. Next season the Junior Czechs won't even beat their more talented Senior teammates, let alone stand a chance of winning Worlds in Montreal! Their lack of Artistry refinement will be exposed at the Senior level. It should've affected their PCS at Juniors but they were the flavour of the season amongst fans who don't always watch Dance. Has Jonathan even watched the British couple yet? That's Artistry. My favourite FD of the season, and Junior Worlds was their best performance, shamefully not on the Podium.😢💔

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

I wasn't saying they would win next year. I was saying they have Olympic potential, which I do stand by.

@paulinayaeger9691

Жыл бұрын

Idk, I don’t think they were the flavor of the season: I think their power, speed, attack, and depth of edge is something that you don’t see a lot in juniors and is therefore really valued in juniors. They have ways to go, sure, but they have really good skating skills and that goes a long way at this stage. Their performance quality is good and I think they’ve already found a style that works for them: powerful, dynamic programs. They obviously have to work on many things, including extension, posture, precision, etc., but those are things they can improve on. Do I think they’re going to suddenly be able to win in seniors? No. But I think they’re a strong team, and they certainly could find success in seniors not necessarily right away, but possibly in the next few years. Bekker/Hernandez are very good: they have really nice lines and good extension, and they are very musical and have a great connection. They are also considerably slower with less ice coverage than the three teams above them at Junior Worlds. So, there are different things for each junior team to work on.

Haein is pronounced Hey-in the in is almost like a cross between in and a french un.

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@nrnflowers

Жыл бұрын

It’s pronounced like hay-in pretty much like how it’s spelled! 😊 Not complicated at all, thankfully!

Ice Dance Scores for Chock and Bates are a joke if compared to V/M and P/C, but I believe it is not because they were hugely overscored (they did indeed get overscored, no way Chock Lvl 4 in StSq), but because the elements are different, the choreo elements are getting a hug e% of the total and the there are more of them now. You can't compare scores when the elements scored at not the same.

@davidreign9247

Жыл бұрын

Jealous much? Stay Mad! Congratulations to Chock & Bates!

@nvadqs

Жыл бұрын

@@davidreign9247 Why should I be jealous? I am pointing out a fact: the BV of the current required elements of each program are higher that the year before (notably because of the incorporation of new choreo elements). So you can't compare this year's scoring with previous years. The same way you couldn't compare Papadakis/Ciceronz highest scores under +/- 5 GOE with the scores of V/M under +/- 3 GOE, if would be ridiculous as well. The one who is biased and is showing it of is you, I am afraid.

@davidreign9247

Жыл бұрын

@@nvadqs Sure Jan! You wrote all that and guess what, Just proved my point how Jealous you are.. They deserved those Scores, Best Lifts in Ice Dance and no one can take their Eyes off Madison Chock! Again, Congratulations to the World Champions!

@nvadqs

Жыл бұрын

@@davidreign9247 Honestly, I don't see in what multiverse what I said makes your point. So, since you doesn't appear to be responding to facts, I can't have a rational conversation with you... So, cool off and be happy....

@davidreign9247

Жыл бұрын

@@nvadqs Sure Jan! Congratulations to Madison Chock & Evan Bates on their Much Deserved Victory & Scores!

Jason Brown is the closest thing to the star quality of Michele Kwan since Michele.

The Russian delegation is shut out because of all the doping across their entire federation. not just figure skating! They need to be shut out of international competition through Olympics 2024 and Olympics 2026, IMO, with eligibility for consideration of requalifying to compete at the Olympics in 2030 being opened to them starting in 2028 when the training starts, but no sooner than 2028. Russian athletes should not be allowed to switch their sports citizenship either. It's wrong to allow athletes to switch sports citizenship when their delegation is banned. Totally different when you are a refugee or something similar, but not just circumventing your nation being banned.

@AnnaSchwepps

Жыл бұрын

I think they will come back next season.

@kerryperryman3025

Жыл бұрын

​@@eeeeeeeeeee2 its all about revenue. Whatever brings in the viewership brings in the money. I will be shocked if they are not back soon.

@ingai7014

Жыл бұрын

@@eeeeeeeeeee2 nobody needs ruzzian money :if EU survived winter without their gas :world can put ruzzia back where they belong 💀🚽:the most racist homophobic country on earth :being ruzzian born in soviet era :I can prove it !💯

@susancanty2017

Жыл бұрын

they are not there because of the war.

@flyingbird1958

Жыл бұрын

Putin war goes on, Valieva doping case not solved, Team event Olympics 2022 medals still not distributed….I want clean and fair sport without Russia !

I think, when it comes to the olympics team competition, they could have the same number of skaters per discipline they have been having but should allow substitutions in all four disciplines and not just two. That is how I would change it. Also, as far as letting the Russians back, the only way I could MAYBE stomach it is if they change the scoring to make artistry count for AS MUCH AS the technical score! That goes just in general though for me regardless of whether they allow the Russians back. But the Asian skaters absolutely must be competitive with the Russians!! I would hope that they lose a great deal of their political influence in artificially inflating their scores!! I just remember being disgusted listening to Tara and Johnny try and make me, as a viewer, believe it justified to give a skater a positive GOE when they fall on a jump! Are we serious?? Anyways… Great video as always!

@zozaazz8044

Жыл бұрын

Artistry is already being taken into account very much. I mean look at Jason's scores and places he has gotten this season? Also Kevin, Deniss - look at their second score? One more example - Ilia's score in the worlds for the short programme, as well as the free - are you telling me it does not depict the lack of artistry?

@helenaprout1061

Жыл бұрын

@@zozaazz8044 I think Rachel is more referring to the women's competition. Artistry is not appreciated enough there, while it is being appreciated more in the men's event (though Ilia is massively overscored in PCS consistently).

tell Jonathan I will not stand for this Saint Jamie Silverstein erasure

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

💯

Ted has the most unappealing Canadian accent and he is dull and trite at the same time.

Happy for Jason Brown presence on the ice !I wish he stays till next Olympic !I love skaters who is pushing skating quality over just jumping horse runs!not to mention :what a nice/nice slap on face of all ruzzian orcs/homophobes !😂

Aww Dave..hope everything works for the best ♥️ hugs! 🫂

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much

Men killed it again, and I am so glad Malinin got the marks "he deserved" so he can reassess and start working on his abysmal skating skills (PCS in both of his programs and especially in the short were LAUGHABLE). Let's hope USFS will do what it takes to keep Jason around because without him the field is so much poorer. IMO Tomono proved once again he's not reliable and I am afraid this was likely to be his last valse. Shoma, Yuma and Miura are the Japanese Top-3 with Sato and his splendid 4Lz trailing behind. Huge props to Jun, and also to Kevin! Ladies: Yelim Kim deserved to win the FP but the judges gave it to Haein Lee to kinda compensate for robbing her of the World title she 100% deserved in Saitama. Hope Yelim's growth spurt is over and next year she will be killing it. Isabeau Levito is so delicate and beautiful to watch and I want to see her win something internationally. Ice dance: Chock & Bates were given the World title on the silver platter. They did not deserve it for what they showed in Saitama, no matter how we loved them. At this event, Lopareva & Brissaud were the best to me. Piper & Paul looked tired. Pairs: Loved Alexa but my heart was all for the Italians. I effing LOVE Sara Conti. She must be the most gorgeous woman to ever touch the skates :) They skated so smoothly in the free. It was commendable and good to watch. Sadly, I find the Japanese pair underwhelming and I feel some kind of relief when they finish their routine. This was a very long season and I am already looking forward to the new one: Matteo, Adam and Kevin with the new programs, Yuma coming back with a boom effect, Isabeau, Rinka and Yelim making a leap to be considered contenders for the next Olympics, the Taschlers and the Mrazeks making a huge splash in ice dancing next year, alongside Papadakis & Cizeron, Fournier-Beaudry & Sorensen AND Zingas & Kolesnik. And yes, I will be rooting for Conti & Macii, even if I were the only non-Italian to do so :) As for the return of the Russians, I dunno... These competitions are wonderful regardless... When I see what Zhulin said about Adam Rippon and about Ukraine, and knowing that he's the main coach of the two top Russian ID pairs... I want to scream -- hell NO! But then again, when I see Gumennik, Kaganovskaia & Angelopol and even Mishina & Galliamov - I am all, oh yes! I saw the Ukrainian response to the Russian lists of sportsmen who are forbidden to come to Russia (including Tessa and Meagan)m and -- to my big surprise -- Tuktamysheva is listed. I thought she kept quiet. Did she explicitly support the war crimes and atrocities in Ukraine, do you know? Sorry for the long post. Thanks for the show and cheers!

@youarestronger

Жыл бұрын

One judge gave Ilia 9.5 and Jason a 9 lol I can't

@paleleaves3291

Жыл бұрын

I bet you know nothing more than the MSM has been brainwashing you about the conflict. No history of the Ukraine and Russia otherwise you would not have formed your opinion in such words.

@Plaspos

Жыл бұрын

Isabeau is overscored in PCS too not just Ilia. Yes she’s very musical but her skating skills and speed are worse than almost all the other top skaters including Bradie. Only Gubanova is slower but overall Gubanova’s SS are much better. Lopareva/Brissaud left no impression on me. I thought Taschlers were the best technically and Chock/Bates or the Canadanes the best artistically. Tuktamysheva was listed because she appeared at that Z rally I believe. She said she didn’t know it would be a political show before appearing. A shame because I would have loved for her to be the only senior Russian woman allowed to skate as an individual.

@wotanworld5504

Жыл бұрын

@@Plaspos She's much faster than she was at the beginning of the season. Maybe her PCS is a bit inflated too but it has nothing to do with the GIGANTIC PCS Malinin receives for no reason whatsoever. Malinin cannot skate, has no edges, his presentation skills are dramatically poor and any component above 7.2 is outrageous.

@Plaspos

Жыл бұрын

@@wotanworld5504 oh so she improved in speed from slowest of the top skaters to second slowest of the top skaters? and that is more because gubanova was much slower this year due to injury than Isabeau improving. you have to remember Malinin does "hip-hop" which the old dinosaur judges think is "cool" and "unique."