These Tiny Motors Make Big Power! Why Supercars Choose Axial Flux

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The McLaren Artura features a new 120º V6 engine, plus an axial flux motor.
What's the difference between radial and axial flux motors?
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The 2023 McLaren Artura is packed with fascinating new technology. It features an all new 120º twin-turbo V6 engine, as well as an axial-flux motor, for a combined output of 671 horsepower and 530 lb-ft of torque. Keeping everything together is a new carbon fiber monocoque, with a 7.4 kWh battery pack. Power is sent through a new 8-speed dual clutch transmission, which also houses the first electronic limited slip differential in a road-going McLaren.
What's the difference between radial flux and axial flux motors? What's so special about this new V6 engine? Watch to learn all about it!
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  • @EngineeringExplained
    @EngineeringExplained Жыл бұрын

    *Apologies all,* I know the audio isn't great on this one. At 1:48 the audio improves, and you get into the nerdy details/advantages of the axial flux motor. Sometimes I experiment with different audio setups - I tested this new mic setup at home and things went great, took it out for a shoot and it simply picks up way too much external noise (the interior is not as loud as this video makes it seem). I promise I'll learn from it, but I'll also probably make mistakes in the future - so it goes, appreciate you watching!! For some fun info, both Ferrari and Koenigsegg are also using this style of electric motor. Becoming more popular in the supercar segment! Mercedes also using it. Will be curious to see if the trend continues.

  • @desultorilypanacea

    @desultorilypanacea

    Жыл бұрын

    Could we get a video about Tesla semi only recommended charging to 80%. Also what kind of range in Canadian winter if you stick to 80% recommendation.

  • @gerenkaplan1731

    @gerenkaplan1731

    Жыл бұрын

    Are you gonna do a engineering breakdown on the Tesla semi revisited

  • @Cal94

    @Cal94

    Жыл бұрын

    perhaps it was the mounting more than the gear, transmitting the cabin noise?

  • @RomainCavallini

    @RomainCavallini

    Жыл бұрын

    That's honestly really bad, at this point you should have reshoot the audio in your home, and overlay generic images instead of you in that car, as it being absolutely nothing to the video

  • @garyandtricia1

    @garyandtricia1

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for that.

  • @kalabash72
    @kalabash72 Жыл бұрын

    Did you ever think you'd get to the point in your KZread career that you'd start off your video with reviewing the latest McClaren? What a wild ride! Congrats

  • @EngineeringExplained

    @EngineeringExplained

    Жыл бұрын

    Haha, from a $375/month apartment (the early videos) shared with 3 other roommates in college, to the inside of a $278k McLaren. I'm okay with that! 😂

  • @Sonny_McMacsson

    @Sonny_McMacsson

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EngineeringExplained A $375/mo apartment still probably has more room to live in than any McLaren, unless you're testing a new McLaren motor home.

  • @kalelwilson8337

    @kalelwilson8337

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@EngineeringExplained you've done well young Padawan...lol

  • @787blah

    @787blah

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Sonny_McMacsson you missed the point

  • @Sonny_McMacsson

    @Sonny_McMacsson

    Жыл бұрын

    @@787blah Try to keep up, mate.

  • @mt2nv1
    @mt2nv1 Жыл бұрын

    Not sure what’s more impressive, the axial flux motor or Jason’s ability to remember this information, articulate it and drive at the same time in an easily understandable way. Been a fan of the channel for years. Never ceases to amaze me! Thanks for everything you do!

  • @ShahabazBagwan

    @ShahabazBagwan

    Жыл бұрын

    After you mentioned it. I just realized it and now I am amazed as well.

  • @whitlermountain7198

    @whitlermountain7198

    Жыл бұрын

    That's insane, Jason's running on that demon time

  • @kevinburke6743

    @kevinburke6743

    Жыл бұрын

    Never mind his Mike being duff, why does he have to talk over a droning engine to talk about an electric motor???

  • @JoeOvercoat

    @JoeOvercoat

    Жыл бұрын

    I usually take exception to people talking to the camera while they drive but this guy handles it as if he was an ex-aviator. 👍 p.s. don’t try this at home people folks and those with similar channels you’re not as good as this guy so you should not do this, no.

  • @kevinburke6743

    @kevinburke6743

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JoeOvercoat This Jason is a university professor & professional orator. He does this for a living & he's damn good at it & vastly experienced! Just saying!

  • @Anonymau5_420
    @Anonymau5_420 Жыл бұрын

    Really cool to see this, i actually work at yasa motors in oxford uk, these are the motors that we produce everyday for mclaren, mercedes and ferrari, great to hear jason talking about this!

  • @EngineeringExplained

    @EngineeringExplained

    Жыл бұрын

    Right on, cool job!

  • @ristekostadinov2820

    @ristekostadinov2820

    Жыл бұрын

    Why these motors aren't used in EVs, are they more expensive to produce or there is some other issue. From packaging standpoint these bad boys are no brainer.

  • @zackklapman3569

    @zackklapman3569

    Жыл бұрын

    Was gonna say that the Ferrari 296 uses one of these too. Super compact and cool!

  • @bradweinberger6907

    @bradweinberger6907

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ristekostadinov2820most ev's arent as space limited and are instead cost limited and need higher volume.

  • @williamgrimes2014

    @williamgrimes2014

    Жыл бұрын

    have any motorcycle companies jumped on this tech yet?

  • @MrZauberwuerfel
    @MrZauberwuerfel Жыл бұрын

    As an electric motor designer, I have to say that I am impressed by your video. Some people make videos saying, that AF motors are better in every way, which is not true. However I want to clear up a few minor points: (AF = axial flux, RF = radial flux) McLaren says, its the first series production vehicle road vehicle using an AF motor. However the Ferrari SF90 Stradale also has an AF motor. Am I missing something here? Surely McLaren would know that. The more crucial point for this video are the advantages of the AF motor. Generally RF motors have higher power densities. For example the SF90 front (RF) motors have 99kW at 12kg (133hp at 26,5lbs). This is because they spin up to 25000 rpm. They don't need to have much torque to achieve that power due to the high speed. This AF motor has 70,1kW at 15,4 kg (94hp at 34lbs). So less power and more weight. The reason, why the AF motors are good at this application, is that they make good power at speeds of the ICE. In pure EVs you generally only care about power density (and field weakening range). Torque density does not really matter much, because you can multiply the torque with a gearbox. That's why pure EVs generally have RF motors.

  • @riba2233

    @riba2233

    Жыл бұрын

    Good post!

  • @christopherbiomass7155
    @christopherbiomass7155 Жыл бұрын

    This is exactly the kind of plug-in hybrid turbo technology I've wanted! Throwing in the axial flux motor there makes it even that much better. With the battery regen modes, and hydraulic assist steering - it's like they were reading my mind. Now if they could put the same sort of features in a more affordable package.

  • @Blox117
    @Blox117 Жыл бұрын

    the magnetic flux can also flow from the north pole on one side to the south pole on the other rotor. this results in greater magnetic flux density around the stator since the magnetic field lines are being squeezed towards a parallel line between each magnetic pair that passes thru the stator.

  • @EngineeringExplained

    @EngineeringExplained

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep! Use it on both sides, and the rotors simply have opposite poles.

  • @joeshumo9457

    @joeshumo9457

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s the first thing I was thinking as well.

  • @kevinburke6743

    @kevinburke6743

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EngineeringExplained Why use axial flux or radial flux? Why not use racial flux? A father & Son American company invented the electric motor sandwich! They a radial flux motor between two halves of a an axial flux motor. This uses ends of the radial stator copper as the starter for the axial motors at each end. Free extra energy, power & torques. Check out the Hunstable electric turbine.

  • @JohnWiku

    @JohnWiku

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kevinburke6743 There's no such thing as "racial" flux, keep race out of this discussion, what you mean is something else. Here's a quote from the article you are mentioning: "Linear Labs says all the HET generates all torque in the direction of rotor motion. In a promotional video, Fred Hunstable said, “We call it circumferential flux, sort of like a torque tunnel.” Hunstable coined his motor as circumferential flux motor.

  • @MassiveTrackHunter
    @MassiveTrackHunter Жыл бұрын

    Getting 100hp out of something half the size of a torqueconverter, is AMAZING. Basically put two of those together in a transmission for 200hp, and run any small car without the weight and cubic feet space requirement of an actual engine bay! Imagine what engineers can do with the entire driveline being basically a transmission under the car and no engine bay at all, and still get several hundred horsepower out of it with 2-3 of these motors packed down there.

  • @garyandtricia1
    @garyandtricia1 Жыл бұрын

    Man, the interior noise is crazy loud in that thing.

  • @E92M3

    @E92M3

    Жыл бұрын

    its a supercar.. if you want to be insulated from the road and engine noise go by an S class

  • @garyandtricia1

    @garyandtricia1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@E92M3 thanks for the obvious explaination and your permission to buy wantever I want, no need to be a jerk over such a simple comment.

  • @dewiz9596

    @dewiz9596

    Жыл бұрын

    @@E92M3 : The point us, it makes the video unwatchable

  • @OGMikeGyver

    @OGMikeGyver

    Жыл бұрын

    I had to stop the video early. The noise wasn't worth it

  • @Blox117

    @Blox117

    Жыл бұрын

    he could have done better noise isolation (lapel mic) and post editing

  • @bsmukler
    @bsmukler Жыл бұрын

    This is one of your best videos ever. Truly fascinating design and engineering, and great sound and images of that beautiful car. My first thought was that it’s a P1 that “normal” enthusiasts can actually buy.

  • @AndrewGroat7
    @AndrewGroat7 Жыл бұрын

    Wow! Good job on this video Jason! As someone who doesn't know very much about electric motors, I wasn't sure what to expect. I was able to understand and comprehend everything you were teaching, and you kept it very interesting. When I first heard about this new Mclaren, I thought "just another supercar manufacturer building another hybrid car", but wow, there's a lot of cool new things in this car (I especially liked learning about the packaging advantages the 120 degree V6 has).

  • @teemo5409
    @teemo5409 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing tutorial throughout the entire video about how this particular vehicle performs and why it is able to do what it does. Very high knowledge level " dumbed down " so even I can understand this particular vehicle's drive train. It was so nice to learn ,I even have it saved in one of my playlists. Thank you Engineering Explained 🙏 😘 ☺️.

  • @just.jose.youtube
    @just.jose.youtube Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on another super interesting video, Jason! :) Love your videos. 🙂 Would love them even more if you could have the metric conversions on screen when talking about weight, distance, speed... I think it would be a great help for us, decimal heads. 😁

  • @philiptownsend4026

    @philiptownsend4026

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a Yes from me too. Though I think and work in a strange hybrid of Metric and Imperial systems.

  • @drajitshekher
    @drajitshekher Жыл бұрын

    Welcome back. A really interesting video after a really long time. I would love to hear more focussed episodes on individual parts of this car. I really want to know about the clutches -- between the engine and the motor and between the motor and the transmission.

  • @EngineeringExplained

    @EngineeringExplained

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! New videos every other Friday - I think they're interesting, but doesn't mean everyone will haha.

  • @MisterDaxter

    @MisterDaxter

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EngineeringExplained I find anything McLaren interesting. They really know how to engineer cars.

  • @kalagift2575

    @kalagift2575

    Жыл бұрын

    You read my mind there, the packaging at the rear would be so interesting to know

  • @fduran6993

    @fduran6993

    Жыл бұрын

    McLaren should invite you to its premises.

  • @fabiobarros2731
    @fabiobarros2731 Жыл бұрын

    I work in the automotive industry, and I'm passionate about electric motors. I was iterating in my head how to improve the performance and efficiency of electric motors and my conclusion was the same design of these axial flux motors. It's quite interesting.

  • @user-fo7mf9nd2h

    @user-fo7mf9nd2h

    10 ай бұрын

    In terms of energy density and efficiency, radial flux motors, especially synchronous PMMs, are better at that job. That's why they are used in most automotive applications. For P2, of course, you gonna need an axial-flux motor (like Ferrari does for their SF90). P4 is always radial-flux though.

  • @soundslight7754
    @soundslight7754 Жыл бұрын

    I had an MRI scan many years ago, this car sounds just like that!

  • @Skelterbane69

    @Skelterbane69

    Жыл бұрын

    Idk if that's a good or bad thing..

  • @soundslight7754

    @soundslight7754

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Skelterbane69 You're cordially invited to make up your own mind on that😋 One thing should be clear: the sound was distinct and has left a lasting impression. I've worked for McLaren at their world famous Surrey HQ and heard enough engine sounds, seen enough unique cars there to last me a life time

  • @joyceofdriving4954
    @joyceofdriving4954 Жыл бұрын

    I love that your are rolling off all the tech while your driving. You prepared very very well for this video. Great work!

  • @EngineeringExplained

    @EngineeringExplained

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!!

  • @TheGinger1
    @TheGinger1 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for doing a review where I actually learnt something rather than the normal reading of the spec sheet quoting bhp, 0-60 and top speed.

  • @imranyaqub1790
    @imranyaqub1790 Жыл бұрын

    Engineering Explained becomes Cars Explained. Has to be one of the most informative car reviews I’ve seen in a long time, plus educational and informative. Great stuff 👍🏼

  • @goyban
    @goyban Жыл бұрын

    Sound quality is very poor, hard to understand!

  • @LordWaldema
    @LordWaldema Жыл бұрын

    My first experience with an axial flux motor actually was when I disassembled one of these Lego Spybot toy robots which also use these as drive motors, they kind of looked like a (permanent magnetic) washer and a spinning disk with 3 flat coils next to it.

  • @JackMott
    @JackMott Жыл бұрын

    For a while I autocrossed an MR-S, which is mid engined, very light, and has an open diff. You would never notice, the oversteer behavior was always wonderful. Other cars will 1 wheel peel all over the place. Often people make that worse or more likely with big swaybars. Big swaybars feel great but usually slow you down.

  • @AlbertManiscalco
    @AlbertManiscalco Жыл бұрын

    i like your car reviews. you are able to articulate the tech and thus break down the performance of the car without resorting to cheap cliches like most car reviewers who come from creative backgrounds. a lot of times their cliches can even be questionable so i find this refreshing...i did click on the video to learn about the ins and outs of the axial flux motor, ngl. good stuff.

  • @613Builds
    @613Builds Жыл бұрын

    Very informative car cruise video 😎👍🏽 enjoyed. Cool car. Its interesting watching automobiles evolve over the decades .

  • @Zundfolge
    @Zundfolge Жыл бұрын

    I have to wonder if 4 of these little motors (one at each corner) wouldn't make for an amazing EV experience. Not in supercar territory, but on something the size of a Miata I imagine it would be pretty good.

  • @EngineeringExplained

    @EngineeringExplained

    Жыл бұрын

    Ha, I'd love to see a lightweight option in the EV space. Miata with two of these at the back & smaller battery good for 150 miles? I'm in!

  • @caseymurray7722

    @caseymurray7722

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EngineeringExplained That's very similar to the original Tesla Roadster. I hope that maybe Lotus, considering they're going all in on evs, would bring back the light weight, good handling, and not just horsepower focused ev.

  • @GeraldMMonroe

    @GeraldMMonroe

    Жыл бұрын

    It certainly would be elegant engineering wise. Hub motors or short driveshaft direct inboard motors, and each wheel module is independently electrically steerable. A manufacturer could make combinatorial lines of modules from common parts for different combinations of wheel size, power requirements, and vehicle mass requirements.

  • @kchristensen6283

    @kchristensen6283

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EngineeringExplained - Would benefit from being diff mounted like brakes on older jags. Surely the weight being 100% sprung and centered would be better for handling

  • @jpe1

    @jpe1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EngineeringExplained it won’t seat 2 people like a Miata, but the EVSR electric sports racer weighs 1,900lbs and uses direct drive electric motors (though they are radial flux, not axial) and just set a record for an EV, over 1,500 miles at the 25 Hours of Thunderhill last weekend.

  • @FixingWithFriends
    @FixingWithFriends Жыл бұрын

    I always liked hub motors, shifting the weight way down to the wheels is nifty. But wedging a motor in with the transmission is very cool also.

  • @JoeOvercoat

    @JoeOvercoat

    Жыл бұрын

    I never really thought about the rotational weight of hub rotors, but that’s what I’ve always wanted. Mercedes just put out a G wagon with hub motors but that’s a more appropriate application. I am a coupe kind of guy and really like what they’ve done here

  • @farhanaumar9316
    @farhanaumar9316 Жыл бұрын

    Great Content. Awesome Explanation. Thank you

  • @krilinhunt1711
    @krilinhunt1711 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for take he time to explain us all this. You are helping us, the car enthusiasts, to keep loving cars.

  • @N20Joe
    @N20Joe Жыл бұрын

    The driving modes are clever! In track mode at WOT it can use all the engine power to drive the wheels, while not at WOT it can use the "extra" engine power to charge the battery for the next WOT burst.

  • @APFSDS-DU

    @APFSDS-DU

    Жыл бұрын

    What’s even cooler about that, is since the engines power is being used to charge the battery when pedal isn’t fully depressed, it’s still keeping the turbo spooled!

  • @jinstube5522
    @jinstube5522 Жыл бұрын

    Having worked on the gearbox software I can say we definitely thought on putting an Easter egg for engaging all gears while in reverse! 😂

  • @andersemanuel
    @andersemanuel Жыл бұрын

    Din bästa förklaring hittills.Tack!

  • @tihouss
    @tihouss Жыл бұрын

    easily understandable technical stuff, cool car, and maaan the landscape is incredible!!

  • @Digital-Dan
    @Digital-Dan Жыл бұрын

    I'm particularly enamored of the car's ability to change exterior colors in a flash. Light blue, dark blue, yellow, orange, red, white . . . amazing.

  • @MKNYC_
    @MKNYC_ Жыл бұрын

    When you mentioned "The Stator" I couldn't help but think back to the legendary Retro Encabulator video. Surprised this device didn't incorporate any hydrocoptic marzel vanes to prevent any potential of side fumbling.

  • @andoletube

    @andoletube

    Жыл бұрын

    I guess how "encabulating" it sounds it depends on your background. All I heard were very basic terms, nothing fancy - but that's because I've messed around with electric motors a lot. I can see how it would be pretty encabulating if you didn't have much experience in electric motors! 😅

  • @JoeOvercoat

    @JoeOvercoat

    Жыл бұрын

    Wait, isn’t that was those things on the side are? 🤔

  • @labradorguy5311
    @labradorguy5311 Жыл бұрын

    Nice ride there! Sure glad you are back with full screen video! Some of us out here use computers to watch your shows.

  • @michaellindemann6592
    @michaellindemann6592 Жыл бұрын

    I have watched your previous videos and have appreciated your intelligent and insightful analysis. I also recognize the amount of time and effort involved in creating these videos. However, with this current video you have not only once again shown all this, but caused my jaw to remain open in amazement throughout. How did you ever get someone to hand over the keys to a McLaren? I don't know that I've ever been more jealous in my whole life. And then you rub it in by giving your whole presentation while cruising down the road, like its no big deal. Wow. You are the king. Great Job. You say so much good stuff, but I'm also gonna what it a few more times on mute and pretend I'm the passenger seat. Truly amazing.

  • @jameshancock
    @jameshancock Жыл бұрын

    The other huge reason for the density is that because they produce lots of power at low RPMs you don't need to have a transaxle with step down gearing. You can directly drive the wheels. That means doing a 4 motor drive train is easier and lighter. Which means that you can get to 400 HP trivially and eliminate complexity and weight. And you can stack them on the same axle, so doubling power is as easy as putting 2 motors per wheel instead of one and now you have 800 HP. I suspect Tesla and others are going to Axial Flux soon for this very reason. The best part is no part. Removing the transaxle with no other real downsides and with an easy scaling path, and 4 wheel independent control is a huge win. The only question to me is who's going to try putting these in the wheel as unsprung weight and get rid of the axles entirely. Would be an interesting experiment.

  • @shapshooter7769

    @shapshooter7769

    Жыл бұрын

    It'd be a hella overbuilt wheel hub of sorts.

  • @jameshancock

    @jameshancock

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shapshooter7769 actually Munroe did a video on a prototype and it was less than you’d imagine. And because there was no drive shaft going through they could build it differently. Sandy Munroe said that he couldn’t notice the sprung mass versus a standard Mercedes.

  • @ryanking6811
    @ryanking6811 Жыл бұрын

    Jason! Great informative video as always!! Was actually curious if you still had your crosstrek. I am thinking about getting on in a few months, maybe you could give us a super long term review?? Regardless, keep up the awesome work!

  • @EngineeringExplained

    @EngineeringExplained

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep, still have it, 6 years old at this point and 50k miles on it. Love it. Only issues I've had are a wheel bearing (covered under warranty), and a brake switch recall. Great lil machine. :)

  • @JoeOvercoat

    @JoeOvercoat

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EngineeringExplained Just this morning i was waxing nostalgic for my ‘84 4WD (not AWD, no) wagon. It punched above its weight, to be sure.

  • @pablor.delpozo3984
    @pablor.delpozo3984 Жыл бұрын

    Great video, as usual. It would be quite interesting if you made an episode about the Wavetrac differential. It's a cool concept, but the technicalities of it need one of your clear, easy to follow explanations. Thank you!

  • @paycheckvomitthorax
    @paycheckvomitthorax Жыл бұрын

    Your videos are magnificent….. love the technological explanations…. just extremely well done.

  • @wiredforstereo
    @wiredforstereo Жыл бұрын

    These rotors are also much easier to make on your own if you want to build something like a wind turbine or low head water turbine. Been wanting to build one for years. One day.

  • @niruvibes

    @niruvibes

    Жыл бұрын

    how would i make one

  • @wiredforstereo

    @wiredforstereo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@niruvibes Buy the book "Homebrew Wind Power." The process is lined out there. You use specially shaped coils of wire cast in resin, with neodymium magnets, and a trailer wheel hub to spin on. Pretty good homebrew energy information.

  • @niruvibes

    @niruvibes

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wiredforstereo interesting thanks

  • @sneaky_krait7271

    @sneaky_krait7271

    Жыл бұрын

    @@niruvibes Also many videos about it on youtube!

  • @Dazza_Doo

    @Dazza_Doo

    Жыл бұрын

    The goal is to get away from Rare-Earth magnets. As someone who is Very interested in in DIY and everything Electromagnetics/Electronics, the more I can source myself the better off. At this moment we have beautiful electric motors, the main issue is Batteries. The Future is Electric, I've believed this for decades, with Electricity I can pull water from the sky (not efficiently). Remember that Electrical Energy flows around the Wires, not though them.

  • @ARPLATINUM
    @ARPLATINUM Жыл бұрын

    Welcome!

  • @nagki
    @nagki8 ай бұрын

    Wow, I usually like all the videos of this channel, but what amazes me is the stats being recalled and internals being explained while driving the Sports car. Needs some level of internalisation to explain it to us this way. Thanks you and keep up the good work 👍

  • @Aunva13
    @Aunva13 Жыл бұрын

    As an engineer for YASA, the motors that we have created for McLaren and Ferrari are impressive in their size and weight but we have much more powerful motors that are about the same size. The stuff we are working on at the moment is pushing the limits of materials, manufacturing techniques and engineering design which will be announced soon

  • @leok3347
    @leok3347 Жыл бұрын

    Question: With this in technology in mind I have though of the tiny V12 engines back in the early days of ferrari ... they had high rev but no torque do you think we could potentially see a comeback of super tiny (maybe high efficient) low displacement v12-v10-v8 hybrids?

  • @EngineeringExplained

    @EngineeringExplained

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't think we'll see tiny high cylinder count engines much more. It's a lot of complexity/cost without much benefit, versus simply choosing a smaller cylinder count.

  • @jamesengland7461

    @jamesengland7461

    Жыл бұрын

    A Ferrari 250 with a 3 liter V12 with this motor would be great!

  • @caseymurray7722

    @caseymurray7722

    Жыл бұрын

    I would assume that high revving v6 or i4 engines would be a possibility instead. The cost and extra fuel consumption doesn't make sense. Porsche will most likely continue using high revving 6 and 4 cylinders as they switch to more hybrid models in future.

  • @zibingotaeam3716

    @zibingotaeam3716

    Жыл бұрын

    @@caseymurray7722 Porsche has stated already that the 911 will stay on liquid fuels and they are building a zero emissions fuel plant in Chile that will be quite competitive at the current fuel prices. The rest of the lineup, i.e. the daily bread and butter (Cayenne, Macan, Panamera etc.) will follow the Taycan to be completely electric. For the european market, their range and features suffice.

  • @JoeOvercoat

    @JoeOvercoat

    Жыл бұрын

    A V3 is a more likely partner, nowadays. For better or worse.

  • @porshoterxx
    @porshoterxx Жыл бұрын

    Which would be better for a small fully electric city car, a classic radial flux motor, or an axial one? From this video, it seems like there are hardly any downsides to using an axial flux electric motor on those types of cars.

  • @zibingotaeam3716

    @zibingotaeam3716

    Жыл бұрын

    in terms of packaging, the radial seems to win out. its a lot more flat, which means no "bump" in the boot that is hiding the motor.

  • @sneaky_krait7271

    @sneaky_krait7271

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd imagine you care a lot about price here, radial is cheaper to make.

  • @maulerrw
    @maulerrw Жыл бұрын

    Im prety sure the radiator fan on my 1986 Celica is a radial flux motor. I pulled it open to fix the bearing and it was like all the conductors were all flattened out into a disc. It looks really cool. First time I'd seen a motor like that.

  • @nswgb69
    @nswgb69 Жыл бұрын

    Best video on this car I have seen. Thank you.

  • @Cocytus
    @Cocytus Жыл бұрын

    Love this content. A nerd likes me geeks out over the complexities in the explanations of the topics. Engineering is so cool. Way better than Medicine IMO.

  • @revimfadli4666

    @revimfadli4666

    Жыл бұрын

    What about bioengineering?

  • @annaczgli2983

    @annaczgli2983

    Жыл бұрын

    This is fun. But, medicine's nerdy as well - check out the ChubbyEmu channel for fun differential diagnosis, if you haven't

  • @stanbrow
    @stanbrow Жыл бұрын

    Does the IC actually rotate backwards when using the enlectric motor to reverse the car? Seems to me that might be hard on things like cam drive chains et all

  • @EngineeringExplained

    @EngineeringExplained

    Жыл бұрын

    Haha, no, there's a clutch that disconnects the engine from the motor. Only the motor is spinning in reverse.

  • @montedaestrada3563
    @montedaestrada3563 Жыл бұрын

    I stopped being impressed by expensive cars I could never dream of owning years ago but I am impressed by good design and engineering.This McClaren looks to be the epitome of both. I was fortunate to come across (one of) the original McClaren F1 pre production test cars in the UK in 1991 and that was interesting. Ive got photos somewhere. However, that radial flux motor has great potential for other small vehicle applications. If its a McClaren design then Id be selling it on licence.

  • @Ollie2846
    @Ollie2846 Жыл бұрын

    I enjoy watching your videos and pretending I can comprehend what you are saying. Been impressed for years by your ability to simplify the engineering so its easier to understand. Thanks

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    Жыл бұрын

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  • @hereigoagain5050
    @hereigoagain5050 Жыл бұрын

    Nice video. Flywheels are a means of storing energy. Could the rotors on axial flux motors function like flywheels?

  • @RIB0S0ME

    @RIB0S0ME

    Жыл бұрын

    No, due to induction. Faraday's Law.

  • @zachcarrizales5038
    @zachcarrizales5038 Жыл бұрын

    The rpm limit on axial flux motors has mostly to due with the transverse force on the magnets

  • @csm153

    @csm153

    Жыл бұрын

    Did you get your Engineering degree from clown college?

  • @zachcarrizales5038

    @zachcarrizales5038

    Жыл бұрын

    @@csm153 As axial flux motors increase in rpms the rotor and permanent magnets have to resist the increasing shear forces.

  • @kolinevans9127
    @kolinevans9127 Жыл бұрын

    Great video very informative thanks for sharing.

  • @honeybadgeractual5734
    @honeybadgeractual5734 Жыл бұрын

    One thing I absolutely love about this is the electric drive is the reverse gear, I have been trying to build a DIY go kart that is what I call Electric Power Transmission, fueled by gasoline (no large batteries, just a single relatively small, low slung for low CG) The motor throttle is electronically linked to the gas throttle, the gas throttle is fly by wire, and calculates needed charging to keep the capacitors topping up as they discharge into the motors via speed and directional controllers that regulate frequency, voltage, amps, and give me the watt/amp draw info in live time, as well as motor temps. She's all wheel drive using a transaxle cvt setup to deliver power to the wheels on an set of articulated axles.

  • @toiletthinker8693
    @toiletthinker8693 Жыл бұрын

    The V-6 is not right by Jesus

  • @papercrowe8772
    @papercrowe8772 Жыл бұрын

    That would make such a killer E-motorcycle motor!

  • @ramadhanisme7
    @ramadhanisme7 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for another great knowledge that you share

  • @hedleypepper1838
    @hedleypepper1838 Жыл бұрын

    You get to drive the coolest cars, great explanation of both the axial flux motor and the whole package 📦 thanks 😊

  • @UNKNOWN-zb3qm
    @UNKNOWN-zb3qm Жыл бұрын

    Beautiful scenery.. All you need is Pink Floyds "Time" blasting through those McLaren speakers. 😎

  • @Lurkzz
    @Lurkzz Жыл бұрын

    Wow, this video truly is on another level Jason. So cool seeing you review new McLarens now. Very well presented! What is the maximum efficiency of a axial flux motor? And what could the theoretical HP/(weight unit) be?

  • @cwinner6277
    @cwinner6277 Жыл бұрын

    This is the first time I watch this channel and I'm in!!! So so good, so much information that I really like 👍 👌

  • @LMacNeill
    @LMacNeill Жыл бұрын

    The first thing I thought of when I saw that motor was, "torque converter." Perfect fit inside a transmission's bell housing.

  • @DurfDiggler
    @DurfDiggler Жыл бұрын

    I like how the title is about the motor, not the car. Absolutely spectacular engineering on the car, though. Anecdote that no one will care about: When I was in high school (in the late 90’s), I was unaware of the Axial Flux motor, but I had learned about mag-lev trains. I imagined a motor with “mag-lev on the outside”, I wanted it to be more of a flywheel, so the stator was on the outside, with the magnets on the outer radius of the flywheel. I figured it could spin up to store energy and clutch out the power when needed… a few years later F1 started using KERS.

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    Жыл бұрын

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  • @sunnyc8900
    @sunnyc8900 Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful explanation of the axial electric motor! 120 degree v6! That's so rare.

  • @1boss1
    @1boss1 Жыл бұрын

    Very cool you got to experience those vehicle on the infield of the Las Vegas speedway! That's a fun little short track I've gotten to run some laps in myself!

  • @randomdamian
    @randomdamian Жыл бұрын

    Love the video, I was already looking at such Axial Flux motors (sadly couldn't buy one) and I'm glad that you're covering this now. I wish the Audio was better tho :( Have you tried maybe a Wireless Mic? Like Rode Wireless Go or similar?

  • @dragon23ggg
    @dragon23ggg6 ай бұрын

    Incredible, amazing and u explained it realy good, 10x

  • @MBergyman
    @MBergyman Жыл бұрын

    axial flux motors are so rad. Please continue making videos in a quieter environment. I appreciate that you get to drive around a sweet McLaren, but the background noise makes it harder to listen.

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    Жыл бұрын

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  • @offjasonwaynenicholsjr.182
    @offjasonwaynenicholsjr.182 Жыл бұрын

    Tight man, thanks.

  • @gavinsullivan9015
    @gavinsullivan9015 Жыл бұрын

    I noticed the audio but honestly didn’t bother me. Love this car - looks better with a black roof imho. I’d daily the hell out of one of these. Great work as always Jason. Thanks.

  • @chilitoday
    @chilitoday Жыл бұрын

    Well done

  • @Cons_and_Concepts
    @Cons_and_Concepts Жыл бұрын

    Stunning Design!!

  • @phantomforester9337
    @phantomforester9337 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @prabhatgupta7170
    @prabhatgupta7170 Жыл бұрын

    Love your videos 😍

  • @benfrank1583
    @benfrank1583 Жыл бұрын

    These are great. I hope more SUVs use this in the future, looking at you land rover

  • @paulg3336
    @paulg3336 Жыл бұрын

    The sections of windings outside of the stator are easier to cool than the ones inside - thinly coated copper in direct contact with the coolant medium as opposed to being enclosed in an iron channel but not in thermal contact with the channel wall

  • @2nlove408
    @2nlove408 Жыл бұрын

    Nice information on Axial Flux. Hey Jason can you review the powertrain on the 2023 Accord Hybrid?

  • @billj5645
    @billj5645 Жыл бұрын

    A V8 has a 90 degree firing pulse that matches the 90 degree cylinder banks, a V6 has a 120 degree firing pulse which works easiest with 60 degree cylinder banks. This also makes the cylinders narrower which reduces the size penalty of DOHC engines that tend to be overly wide. A pushrod engine is much more compact but needs room for the camshaft in the V so those engines frequently are made with 90 degree cylinders. However with 90 degree cylinders they have to use offset crank pins in the crankshaft to achieve the actual 120 degree firing pulse.

  • @krisnadiimam4556
    @krisnadiimam4556 Жыл бұрын

    i suppose decently powerful axial flux motor + gearbox ( automatic or manual doesnt really matter ) is the key for fun and sportier driving EV. Can't wait to see it happening

  • @PaoloLuraschi
    @PaoloLuraschi Жыл бұрын

    Hi, at 6:40 I see they still have a conventional starter motor, could´t they use the electric traction motor to crank up the ICE ?

  • @marinell06
    @marinell06 Жыл бұрын

    The big smile after every reving is amazing

  • @robertwicks174
    @robertwicks174 Жыл бұрын

    very interesting and entertaining Thank you. Would you please consider doing a presentation on the Omega 1 engine.?

  • @maxtorque2277
    @maxtorque2277 Жыл бұрын

    One problem with axial flux motors is cooling the rotor, which is not such a problem in hybrid applications where bursts of peak power are short, but is in full electric traction applications. The P1 motor as an internally water cooled rotor that means is has a very good peak vs continuous ratio!

  • @Aunva13

    @Aunva13

    Жыл бұрын

    If you look at the shots of just the motor, you can see the ports for the coolant to flow through the stator

  • @hphillips7425
    @hphillips7425 Жыл бұрын

    Good video. Interesting Not sure I could deal with the engine drone in the cabin

  • @miamisasquatch
    @miamisasquatch Жыл бұрын

    The rapid generation of motor technology options right now is very exciting

  • @judge831
    @judge831 Жыл бұрын

    I'm looking forward to seeing this technology trickling down to affordable sports cars. Maybe we'll see a hybrid MR2 with the G16EGTS turbo 3 from Toyota mated to an axial flux motor for about 400 hp. Although personally I think 300 hp would be plenty if it stays under 3,000 lbs. Lightweight slow cars are always more fun than heavy fast cars.

  • @bradleyland
    @bradleyland Жыл бұрын

    Jason, did they fly you all over the country to drive this thing? I see on-track footage from what appears to be Charlotte Motor Speedway, but Sears Point signs in some clips, and that scenery in the background of your narration video looks like somewhere in Texas or the Southwest US. That's quite the variety! :)

  • @Emilthehun
    @Emilthehun Жыл бұрын

    What a machine! Beautiful!!!

  • @kooooons
    @kooooons Жыл бұрын

    Kinda want that 94hp, 17 kg motor to be compatible with the transmission of old econobox cars. I'd estimate those cars would lose somewhere in the area of 150 kg of engine, exhaust, tank and fuel system which would make room for this engine and about 16 kWh of lfp battery without adding weight. That would be ultimate upcycling of cheap old cars ...

  • @primoroy
    @primoroy Жыл бұрын

    For the first few minutes I thought this was a hub motor used on each wheel, I was excited. When I realized it's used behind an ICE my excitement dropped. It's still a fascinating vehicle and outstanding tech! 👏 😜

  • @bearclaw5115

    @bearclaw5115

    Жыл бұрын

    Hub motors stink. Too much unsprung weight.

  • @primoroy

    @primoroy

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bearclaw5115 Yes, as sprung weight, but they can be inboard on short shafts.

  • @daltonbedore8396
    @daltonbedore8396 Жыл бұрын

    great video. great looking car in white😍

  • @michaelwebber4033
    @michaelwebber4033 Жыл бұрын

    The most common washing machines sold in my country uses a very similar motor design and they've been using that for more than 20 years

  • @cam3002
    @cam3002 Жыл бұрын

    What are the battery requirements for the axial motor? The hotrodder in me now want to swap an axial motor into one of my projects.

  • @MrBurbanker
    @MrBurbanker Жыл бұрын

    The comparison between axial and radial machine flux paths was unclear to me, especially since it compared a 4 pole induction radial flux motor to a higher pole count permanent magnet axial flux motor. Great video overall, I've been appreciating your explanation of automotive components and systems for years now (even systems I have a little more background in.).

  • @BALIST0N
    @BALIST0N Жыл бұрын

    i'm curoius how the "only electric" mode works to be able to cut the ICE ? like is the clutch before or after the flux motor ?

  • @xander2299
    @xander2299 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Jason, Are you dealing with motor design/electromagnetic analysis?

  • @meeder78
    @meeder789 ай бұрын

    Could you take a look at the Koenigsegg "Raxial" flux motor? Do they combine axial and radial flux in some way as the name suggests?

  • @OVER-bENGINEERED
    @OVER-bENGINEERED Жыл бұрын

    My 1983 antique boat has an axial flux motor. I might be the only person who upgraded a boat from radial flux to axial flux!

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