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@agviator

2 ай бұрын

Those Vevor ladders are great, we use them in bulk fuel delivery daily. Stow easy. Just have to be easy on them when sliding the stages together. Hard on the plastic buttons.

@fastinradfordable

2 ай бұрын

200 gallons on my 1981 vw rabbit pickup with a mechanical highly modified 1.9 tdi It’s been that way for 13 years.

@fastinradfordable

2 ай бұрын

Most electric cars are powered by fossil fuel.

@WadeWalraven

2 ай бұрын

Hey Josh I was wondering if you have ever made a video on the cat 3176 engine.

@AdeptApe

2 ай бұрын

No, but I feel like there will be one soon 🤫

The laws of thermodynamics are still undefeated!🥊🏆

@thetowndrunk988

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 Imagine that. It’s like when people say they can fast for weeks on end, and gain weight, as if the laws of thermodynamics don’t apply. I always tell em “if that’s true, why hasn’t science focused solely on studying the human body, instead of fusion, fission, solar, etc., because that would be the holy grail- free energy”…..

@volvo09

2 ай бұрын

​@@thetowndrunk988 there was some guy who said he could fast indefinitely and for some reason decided to go on camera locked in a room... He had to stop after 10 days and he lost a bunch of weight and looked like hell 😂 Afterwards he admitted something like well yeah I do have to eat a little bit, it's just not as much as other people. 😂

Awesome video Josh. Alot to think about. To see how things progressed with the engines. The new ideas. Thank you for the shout out and support Josh. You are a great friend. Cheers man. 👍👊💪👍🔧🔩

This is like the gas vapour kit’s people were putting on their cars and claiming 100+ mpg, yet the math didn’t add up, and what do you know, people stopped trying to convince us of something that is impossible

There was actually an aircraft engine that used multiple turbines geared to the crankshaft to recover energy from the exhaust. It supposedly increased the fuel efficiency by 15-20%. The engine was the Wright R-3350.

@hopingforthebest1.9

2 ай бұрын

The DD13 does this, theres a turbine behind the normal turbocharger that is geared to the crankshaft I believe there may be some other manufacturers that do this on their trucks as well

@gcbification

2 ай бұрын

..and it was one of the most unreliable aero engines made, with an insatiable appetite to lunch on it's exhaust valves. As used in the L-1049 Super Constellation, and garnered it the reputation of being 'the most beautiful 3 engine airliner in the world', because at least one engine failed nearly always on each flight =)

@redmesa2975

2 ай бұрын

That’s called turbo compounding

@agviator

2 ай бұрын

Beat me too it , Nice seeing good info.

The part about an exhaust turbine has been done, detroit did it on the high hp dd16 engines and it was basically a turbine after the turbo that went through a torque converter and gear box that directly put power into the gear train, i think it added 100ftlbs of torque but was mostly gimmicky costly and broke a lot

@O-Chainsaws

2 ай бұрын

Volvo has that tho

@wizard_of_poz4413

2 ай бұрын

Yea it's kinda dumb

In the '60s I saw the turbine car with manufacture's plate in my town near the PA turnpike.. It definitely had the turbine whine. We also had two 400 kw turbine generators at work. They ate so much fuel, they were changed out for diesels.

Back in the fifties, Rover company made gas turbines from Frank Whittle designs. Rover put one in their car, the engine was reckoned to cost 50% more to produce than their regular engine , but it also suffered from slow acceleration because it was single shaft type, and used a perforated ceramic disc revolving between exhaust and intake to attempt some heat recovery, still being thirsty. Not sure how few were made. Alternative fuels, my college lecturer in the early eighties claimed that in the early sixties he drove a mini with a sterling cycle engine that used a radioactive isotope for the heat source. The isotope would last about three years before needing return to the British nuclear research facility at Harwell for a new isotope ( sealed in its lead jacket) . The downside was a top speed of 45mph. Water fuel, many early engines used water ingestion to reduce combustion knocks, a few even had the air intake inside the cooling hopper to ingest steam. Using alternator output to reduce water via electrolysis,,,,, really,, the engines driving the alternator which itself isn’t very efficient, and the engine still only 35% efficient at best. As said, ‘ye canna change the laws of physics’. Let’s go one step further, hydrogen 😖😖 first you gotta make it, then you gotta compress it, A LOT. From the manufacturing point onto the transport, off the transport to the retailer, from retailers to your vehicle, each step is either a reduction in pressure, or needs heavy pumping. And that’s assuming there’s no bulk storage as we have with oil. Some in depth studies by highly respected researchers suggest about 60% of the hydrogen that reaches your vehicle is actually used for propulsion, the other 40% was used for making and transporting. And after all that, due to the size and physical requirements of the high pressure tank in your vehicle, the range is not much different to an EV battery system. Hybrid drives still seem the best option, diesel/petrol powered generator with electric transmission for distance and batteries for both around town, and hill climb boost.

I remember hearing about the "100 mpg" carburetor myth back when I was a teenager. Mid 40's now so... yeah!

@engineerinhickorystripehat9475

20 күн бұрын

And the "Fish" carb ! Those were real , not a miracle, but real.

Steve Lehto wrote a book about the turbine car

@18:00 20 years or so ago , I told him ONCE that it was impossible ,but he insisted. So I sold him all the stuff to build the pickle jar . He worked his way up to a 100 gallon fish tank and a bunch of batteries, then SUCCEEDED, in smashing all the glass in his van and narrowly avoiding the shrapnel .

Remember- when thinking about the "perpetual motion" reasoning, that can trip you up sometimes. Example being using refrigerant systems to move heat into an area versus electrical resistive heating elements. 100% of the electricity put into a resistive heater is going to come off as heat. That is 100% efficiency as a heater. Take that same amount of electrical energy input and use it to power a compressor in a heat pump system (which is essentially just an AC system with the roles of evaporator and condenser reversed) and you will get MORE heat output than the resistive elements. Does this mean, that as a system, the heat pump is more than 100% efficient?? Well, looking at it by itself, of course it isn't! The compressor has friction, the liquid refrigerant has friction, the gaseous refrigerant has friction, the circulating fans have friction- not all of the energy you put in is being used how you want it to! But.... compared to the electrical resistive heating element? Yeah, 200%+ efficiency is possible. You aren't generating heat, you are moving heat around using the power of phase-change of refrigerants. Compress that gaseous R-12/R-134a/R-410/R-1234yf/R-22/propane/ammonia/etc and it goes liquid- then send that now-hot liquid to an exchanger to cool down to just a warm liquid, then send it off to a small hole in the circuit (whether thats an orifice tube or an expansion valve) and shive it through- on the other side, it'll massively expand as it changes phase due to the lower pressure and in doing so absorb a huge amount of heat energy in the process. Send that now-frigid gas through a heat exchanger, and then send the now-warm gas through a filter/drier and back to be compressed again, and so on and so forth.

The guy with the water powered car is a true story.As a fly on the wall,I went to a Safari International show a few years back with my Aunt.She had a friend that was formerly with the CIA.He was an investigator to find out how this man was murdered.The man had copied how to make another engine from the papers that were found in this man's effects.The reason he was showing how to make this engine was to help another friend to make a generator on his off-grid property.He said that it was made from off the shelf parts that you could find in a regular hardware or car parts store.I asked if they needed to use distilled water,but regular water actually worked better.Since I was a nobody in this group,i couldn't get copies of this man's notes.This CIA official was currently working for Cabelas in Reno,Nevada.This was over ten years ago,and I can't find the guy anymore,but got to hear some of how this engine worked.

@barrygrant2907

2 ай бұрын

Oh, the old friend of a friend of a friend story, eh?

I remember the turbine car at the 1964 Worlds Fair !

@volvo09

2 ай бұрын

Cool! I love the history of the turbine car. Have you seen Steve lehto's videos on it? He's got a clip of one starting up and driving around a parking lot. I think leno has one too, I forget if he has a video of it driving.

One problem with a lot of these ideas is that they seem to rely on what they usually refer to as "extra" or "waste" electricity your alternator is supposedly already making whenever the engine is running. To me, this underscores a lack of understanding about the load that the alternator puts on the engine when it's actually generating electricity, and how much additional fuel it takes to compensate for that additional load. There's no free lunches, boyo.

@volvo09

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, alternators are VERY inefficient at producing power compared to the load they add to the engine. There's a reason modern cars have computer controlled alternators and drop the voltage to stop charging the battery when it is full, or only charge under braking or decel... unlike old cars that just stayed at 14.2

@wizard_of_poz4413

2 ай бұрын

​@volvo09 well they all had a voltage regulator built into the alternator itself

Have you ever watched mountain men? Eustis, a homesteader has a pick up he converted to run off wood somehow. I think it runs off the smoke, he has a stove in the bed, he builds a fire in it and when there's enough smoke or whatever it runs off of the engine will start and then he drives it around. Thought it was pretty cool, but not practical.

@transdimensionalist

2 ай бұрын

they did similar in the uk during ww2 as fuel was in short supply they converted cars and even buses to run on wood gas or producer gas from coal, sometimes the contraption was towed on a trailer!

@davidpawson7393

2 ай бұрын

It's called wood gas and the stove is called a wood gasifier.

thats interesting, never heard of that before! you should look into some DD15 engines, some of them have a exhaust driven turbine that drives the rear gear train, (axial power turbine), or something like that. supposedly they get 200 ft/lbs of extra torque out of it!

Don't forget GM made turbine class 8 trucks in the 70's one of my old boss had two of them too test out. His company hauled powder cement with them.

20:10 Stirling engines can be used, another liquid that boils at a lower temperature can also be used.

Great video Josh. I'm gonna watch the film about the turbine car.

Do you know about the 1960's Ford Turbine powered Semi tractor? If not you should check it out.

Anything Gas Turbine powered and fuel economy can not be used in the same sentence, paragraph, story, book, video and everything else. You should look into the turbine powered locomotives that replaced Union Pacific's Big Boy. Those were "mechanical monsters and marvels" at the same time. But were too finicky and different from the main stream stuff and thirsty, so they got phased out for the regular, garden variety, diesel electric stuff.

Hey AdeptApe! long time viewer first time poster. i had a weird one i wanted to run by you. at a company i was a fleet mechanic for we had one 98 Kenworth t800 with a c12 (i believe it was a 98 but it had a c12 for sure). if you where to try and start the truck middle of winter or summer, engine hot or cold( especially cold) it would pop and blow white smoke like crazy never starting. plugging it in did not help at all. a month in an older gent from the southern shop told me a secret. if you turn the ignition to the on position and let it the "key on" beeper beep 8 times. then shut the ignition off and turn it once again to on and let it beep 3 times, then start the engine the truck would fire up almost immediately. even in super low temps a few cranks and she would fire to life. i worked there for 3 years and it was always like that. i never looked into it cause i knew the secret and it was awesome theft deterrent. ill let you know a previous driver left the bed up(it was a tandem dump truck) and she smacked her nose up into the bridge when the bed hit. truck was always funky after then i was told. still baffled me about letting the dash beep in a certain way and she would fire right over. let me know what you think and thank you!

Seven minutes ago and here I am in Australia already waiting on these ads to pass. I'm getting in quick today lol

Have you heard of the hot vapor engine that Smokey Yunick designed

There’s so much power and torque in steam, no need for a transmission. I’m surprised nobody has tried to refine and perfect a steam powered car. I know they’ll never let nuclear car become a thing but just think… a piece of radioactive material the size of a pea could power a car for a long time!

@NONNAME152

2 ай бұрын

Check out Jay Leno's garage on his collection of steam powered cars. TL;DR it is faster to get in and turn a key than it is to get the water up to temperature prime the engine and start driving.

@joshuawalton8179

2 ай бұрын

There is a reason trains are diesel powered now days instead of steam, and it’s not because steam was superior in anyway. I operated steam propulsion plants on submarines for 20 years. The transmission weighed 40 thousand pounds. Yes, transmissions are still required.

@robertgarrett5009

2 ай бұрын

And a lost grain of radioactive material shut down 1/4 of Australia. There's a reason it never will happen.

@Portuguese-linguica

2 ай бұрын

You crazy to have a nuclear population car .

@volvo09

2 ай бұрын

​@@Portuguese-linguica yeah cars go through hell with crashes and fire! Leave the nuclear reactor on land and recharge a battery 😂

Very informed discussion. The electrochemistry of doing anything with water to use it as a source of energy just doesn't work. You have to put energy in to break the hydrogen and oxygen apart. Anything that can do that without electrolysis is so reactive that it also only exists as an oxide, so you have to use power to break that down. There's no free ride. Sure you can electrolyze water to get hydrogen and oxygen, but you need electricity to do that, which you could have used directly, and when you recombine the hydrogen and oxygen you get more losses, so you can never recover the useful energy you started with. Water 'powered' cars are a mixture of con and 'magic' trick. Same with the air powered car, sure you can drive a vehicle with air, but it won't get you far and you lose a lot of heat compressing the air and that's energy you can never recover.

Oh, and the 5-stroke engine, it seem to actually increase efficiency, but of course has it's own downsides.

I used to constantly have this argument with my brother in law. He was always fascinated with the KZread vids of "perpetual motion" or "alternate fuel" claims. The laws of thermal dynamics always seem to win out in the end. However, what are your thoughts on an exhaust mounted "turbo" that works in reverse, turning an alternator? After the vehicle is running at speed, it could be brought online and the engine mounted alternator taken off line. While power is basically generated by the (free) exhaust gas and there would be a gain in vehicle efficiency, due to the drop in parasitic load caused by the engine alternator. Controlling when the system is /is not active could be easily controlled by a computer measuring exhaust flow (MAF or MAP style sensor). Would the additional weight of another "turbo" and alternator, cancel out the benefits of "free" vehicle charging? Yes, I know the voltage regulator takes the engine mounted alternator offline when battery is charged to reduce parasitic load, but the gains would be far more notable at night, when the electrical loads of the vehicle are greater. Your opinion / feedback would be appreciated...thanks.

If your having a dive into interesting engines go nerd out about the Napier Deltic. It's quite something special. Same as Rolls Royce Crecy. Then after that you can go down the rabbit hole of opposed piston diesel aero engines.

I have one of the Vevor ladders for gaining access to the roof of my RV (I despised the one on the rear). I keep it around the house now since it's so handy in tighter areas!!

@AdeptApe

2 ай бұрын

Good to hear a real world review on it.

They all went the way of the Canadian Queff! Poof and they vanished in the wind.

Browns gas, or hho generators, are used in jewlery manufacturering as you get a very hot fine point flame that burns well above the melting point of most precious metals. It is just mixed electrolised water, so yes just like useing hydrogen but with pre mixed oxygen. the generators also must run on AC voltage, or your anodes and cathodes will degrade.

The volume calculation is off for hydrogen. You can't have only 2 gallons of a gas contained within 20+ of a liquid. Maybe the other way around. The liquid form of a fuel is always massively more energy-dense than the gas form. Think of propane- in the tank, under pressure, it is in liquid form. As you use it, to maintain its phase-change balance pressure, it will boil off an amount equal to what you used. This is how you can have so much useable fuel in a relatively small container. That being said, in the propane example, there is no fracturing of molecules- its just a phase change. While a gallon of water will yield around 1850 gallons of pure H2O in gaseous form at standard pressure, that's still not a fuel. If you perfectly split the H2O, you would yield roughly 1200 gallons of pure hydrogen at standard pressure. That's about 0.9lbs of pure hydrogen. Remember, gasses take up A LOT of space. So how much is that in gasoline equivalence of BTUs? Hydrogen is around 61,000 BTU/lbs, so we will say 56,000 BTU in our gallon of water. Gasoline contains around 125,000 BTU/gallon. Gasoline is nearly completely combustible as it is nearly completely fuel. There is a small amount of oxidant and small amounts of material that react but dont technically combust (very very small amounts). Water, by weight, is about 11% "fuel". The rest is an oxidant, oxygen! It's a very inefficient fuel because it carries all of the oxygen with it that it needs for combustion in an ideal setting. H2, plus O, equals H2O, right? So we have an inefficient fuel storage liquid, that then needs energy input in order to fracture the molecules out into fuel and oxidant (better not have any sparks in your electrolyzer!) at a prodigious rate. While your numbers were off (heck, mine are generously rounded, not going for lab work here) your conclusion is absolutely correct with our given understandings of the laws of physics.

I personally ran a 1984 bluebird schoolbus gm 8.2l turbo diesel (worst engine ever) on waste vegetable oil for over a decade, I can answer any questions you might have. It's very involved and requires some very specific parts but it can be done.

I think the biggest waste of energy occurs when braking. Now this varies a lot according to driving profile (aggressive vs. Smooth) and also topography (climbing hills vs. Driving on a flat plane). This is being done in hybrid and EVs that charge their battery when lightly braking. I think this energy could be used a lot more in some way or form e. g. If you wanted to fit a hydrogen generator to a car or truck that could only kick in when your braking or don't have any throttle input. Obviously that would not make the vehicle not use any external fuel but I think reducing energy waste is the name of the game here.

Engine creates heat creates steam replenishing fuel... would be really hard to do to keep the engine fuelled to keep the cycle going.

Hi josh have a research of Tom oggle....he's another guy that went missing after inventing a carburettor that gave fantastic fuel mpg. Also why not use the a/c to cool the intercooler then it could make the air denser to recover some of the Loss caused by the a/c?( Mike from wigan,england) hope your good,love the videos

The MTT Y2K is a production jet turbine motorbike

Possibly could have had a regeneration setup. Collecting the product of burning oxygen and hydrogen......

Hey Jerry, Dont Do That Next Time you Change oil! Good luck 👍🏻 lol

@jeriwollmann7366

2 ай бұрын

Thank you man. Cheers. 👊👍

Also cannot reasonably do so without high frequency oscillation circuit designed/tuned to hho generator mass, to optimize output at molecular level, otherwise energy input consumption requirements are unrealistic and undermine entire purpose, which is what Meyers alludes to in his writings. Im an electronics engineer by trade and applied this concept to my own hho designs and it works unbelievably well.

Did they ban you from filming in the shop? Haven’t seen a shop video in awhile

@AdeptApe

2 ай бұрын

Well, you aren't the first person to ask that recently. There will be a video discussing that soon, but you are on the right track.

@timgreen4137

2 ай бұрын

Likely some blowback from manufacturers, or companies that own the trucks.

Engins running on water are the best. Naic.

Don't forget about Big Red Fords turbine truck

I've got a truck that can get from LA to New York on less than 23 gallons of diesel. The truck hauling it uses a lot more.

Maybe you can do a video on Propane injection on a diesel engine. A popular adon for increasing diesel mileage.

Im wondering about the stovepipe engine or as it was dubbed roatery V engine. It was being developed by GM back in the late 1960s I believe. And Mechanic's Illistrated, in the early 1970s. They claimed it could rotate 7000 RPM. without any vibrations just like an electric motor. It would run on the 2 cycle system use regular pump gasoline. And could produce 700 hp. But it was shelved and never heard from again. Do you know any thing about that????

Theoretically combusting H2 (reacting H2 with O2) would yield exhaust byproduct of H2O. If there were a way to recapture the exhaust (water) I could see where this would work in theory.

The best and most efficient engine is cat diesels like the 3406

Josh you didn’t mention the wood powered car. Or everyone’s favorite the one with the Flux Capacitor. lol. But do google “ wood powered car “.

Hey bud ,i seen a thing abought ,"golf"ball pistons on daves grarage channel ,im thinkin ive see this and its old news ,and itso ,youtube brought your vidio on golf ball pistons 8 months ago ,aint the internet great😂

Hey Josh how ya doin. Also how expensive would it be to rebuild a 3126 cat and should I buy one it's out of a gmc 7500 but it's been sitting a while and it's not fully plugged

@jamest828

2 ай бұрын

A 3126 doesn’t have wet liners so if a cylinder is damaged from rust or anything else it would get expensive quick because the motor would have to be taken out and go to a machine shop

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 dead on.

Volumetric liters of course...

So I have an idea, let me know how dumb it is. So in a turbo application you’re only really using that boost a little bit of the time during initial takeoff or maybe climbing a big hill, you don’t need boost just cruising down the road. So why not have an air compressor with a tank big enough to store sufficient air at like 150 psi that could be regulated down to say 20 psi so when you need it you have instant 20 pounds of boost with no lag. And once you’re done accelerating or needing the boost it’ll just build back up for the next time? Just a thought I’ve had.

@jaydunbar7538

2 ай бұрын

The efficiency in the system over takes the gains by a large margin. It’s not a new idea, it’s been tried and used to reduce turbo lag in performance applications.

@volvo09

2 ай бұрын

​@@jaydunbar7538yeah ford tried a "boost tank" in the rear bumper of a rally car. There were very few benefits.

The ones that kind of worked drove to slow or had limited range. Saw few at trade tech Los Angeles. Kind of worked. The Others seem they may have been faked. Remember, conservation of energy is part of a physical law.. However many ways to skin a cat they say someone may find a practical one.

free energy... hmm... well, if we were really... wise we'd already little have cheap atomic fission engines like in the old comic series which names elude me for some reason..

Im not smart enough to figure out any of this lol. I was watching this hole video think hhmm maybe no no well no no lol.

Steam systems are heavvvvvvvvvy.

The real problem with the water engine is that the water must be split into hydrogen and oxygen with low voltage. SLOWLY. Im sure there are other ways, but pretty much its too damned slow. It can't be done in live time, driving doen the road and that is the nature of the elements. There is never going to be a way to split them quickly that will also fit onto a vehicle like a passenger car or pickup.

@Randy245850

2 ай бұрын

Modern submarines strip the oxygen from water to breathe

@jaydunbar7538

2 ай бұрын

It absolutely can be done fast, just dump more energy into it. But then you would have to have a v8 powering the generator to make the hydrogen to power your v6.

@jaydunbar7538

2 ай бұрын

@@Randy245850yes but they cheat and use a nuclear reactor, they get to use the good stuff

Why don't we see you work on diesel engines anymore?

On another note ,why must we have more efficient deisel engines that only have 10 us gallons to.cool them ,now lets put smog crap on them and make them work harder with less coolant than a narrow nose peterbuilt with a 335 nh cummins?

All these garage "water powered cars" are based on electrolysis, none of them work.

Maybe he used heavy water?

Make sure you dont mention anything negative about Edison Motors, or youll be making a cheerful post about how you "decided" to take the video down.

@AdeptApe interesting video I will email you an inventor name and videos not using hydrogen. This technology is been proven and around since 1993

First like

Origin of government or big oil conspiracy theories is Rudolf Diesel. Water car's ate a rip off. 😂

I know that hydrogen fuel cell cars are basically electric. There’s no combustion engine. At least that’s what I have learned. I don’t know what comes up on google. I do know Wikipedia is no longer a credible source for anything. I did like the turbine car. Of course I am a Mopar nut. Thanks Josh!

I'll buy a hydrogen vehicle before I buy a electric vehicle. And by The way what a salesman.

no more adds , will watch something else......

@AdeptApe

2 ай бұрын

Are you referring to the ladder ad or the KZread ad? I don't do the product placements every video, so just looking for your opinion.

@stinkydog5935

2 ай бұрын

ladder@@AdeptApe

@AdeptApe

2 ай бұрын

Gotcha, thank you for the honesty.

@jaydunbar7538

2 ай бұрын

Don’t mind them, make the buck when you can. If someone can’t figure out how to tap the screen a few times to skip it if they aren’t interested then their opinion isn’t something that should hold value for anything.

@smellfunny1864

2 ай бұрын

I appreciate you showing different tools on YOUR channel. I have bought some of the items that you use through your links. I am not going to pass up any tool that might make my job easier or that might help me put more money in my pocket. AND if it helps you along the way then Bonus.

Kenworth and Boeing tested turbines in the 50 or 60s and Ford. I think there's videos of both on here.

@samrapheal1828

2 ай бұрын

Turbines work great with thin air (high altitude), not so well at sea level (fuel consumption goes astronomical). Turboprop aircraft max out at flt level 28k (the propeller is the limitation) while Jet (turbo fan) operates efficiently at 38-45k altitude. Physics will not be overcome[d](sp?).