I’m a GC, the cavity Slider is a top-notch system, if the the budget allows I will use them but the product can get expensive with frame kit, sliders, and softclose. My standard go-to is the Johnson 2060 system which is probably 40% of the cost and is a commercial-grade system.

Matt, I always felt like these are sales videos but this felt more informative. I like it. 👍

@scpitts

9 ай бұрын

They usually are sponsored videos, so no surprise there to the promoting of people's products.

@agruici

9 ай бұрын

Still sales. I can buy a pocket door kit at home depot for 80$ and it works great vs $1000 price for this system. No soft close tho on the 80$ kit

@Ryezn5057

9 ай бұрын

Isn't the point that the 80$ is difficult to install by crappy installers

@namuhtsuj4025

9 ай бұрын

They are a sales pitch. Most of Matt’s stuff is. He an excellent builder and does bring helpful information to the forefront but most of his stuff is just points on a large scale business model that puts lots of money in his pocket. Which is fine, I’ve got not problem with entrepreneurship. Just not exactly unbiased towards most of the products moving across this channel.

@Boomkelly

9 ай бұрын

You can totally feel the difference between a cheap pocket door and a good quality pocket door. Some people will pay more for higher quality. It's nice to give customers options...

Pocket doors have always had amazing potential that has never been realized until recently. Happy to see it!

I’ve never thought of these as paid promotional sales videos - info that is provided is up to the viewer to filter as they deem appropriate - that said, the pocket door was something that the house I grew up in had 3 of them… always liked them and in the 13 homes that I’ve built over the last 31 yrs, I’ve always incorporated them into the architectural designs… it also served as a litmus test as to skills, knowledge and expertise of any general contractor-builders interviewed during the contract process - so many “good ole boys” self-eliminated from consideration when they were challenged by the design specs… the fact of the matter is the upscale and more costly builders not only understood the nuances of the build, but also offered valuable insights into the complexities and ways to enhance the designs… these are the gold-standard builders that deliver value across the build cycle

I have 5 Cavity Slider pocket door frames and love them. The only screw up I made was not installing the plastic spacers between the pocket door jambs before drywall was installed which caused some warping for the doors to slide into the frame. Not enough to cause the doors to scrape against the jambs but the alignment could have been better if I had popped those spacer in, which in the heat of construction, I forgot but should have done so after I set the frames. I wanted to have both soft close and soft open but for the soft open, the mechanism needs to be installed prior to drywall, which meant the doors needed to be installed before drywall. That could have caused damage to the doors by installing them so early in our new home construction with everything else that was going on with contractors. I also didn't have the doors on hand yet. I did the soft close option instead and they work great. We have 8' tall solid core doors, most 36' wide. When I first was contemplating what pocket door frames to use, I got a quote from a Marvin Window subsidiary company of $1500 each for wood pocket door frames. Yikes, no thanks! Very happy with Cavity Sliders.

OMFG! That is BADASS! Your opening comment was entirely correct. Pocket doors are not for the faint of heart. While this system looks like its not for the faint of wallet, it looks like the best system Iv'e seen so far. Wow! Now I just need a deep pocket client for my next remodel. Thanks Matt.

@buildshow

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the support!

Literally just bought one to replace a really tight space for a half bath. Just picked it up a day ago - and looking exactly like the installation videos. Really excited to see the soft stop in action. Thanks for the info - much appreciated to get a top notch product!

@buildshow

9 ай бұрын

Fantastic!

Damn, I jealous. Looks great. The ability to service can be huge. In my house I have multiple PDs. Had one on the main floor powder room, worked for years. Then it jambed and wouldn't open completely. I ran a scope back there to see what the issue was and went "oh sh.." Needed to pull down a bunch of trim and completely remove the door so that I could pull out and remove a pile of scrap that had been left behind during construction. ( I wish this was the only garbage the builder had left behind. ) Turned out that the crew doing that part of the build left some galv scrap and chunks of sheetrock on the door framing. It sat there for years, until it didn't and fell down into the pocket path and blocked it. Being able to easily pull down a little trim and access the hardware and door is huge compared to needing to rip/remove trim to access, then remove the door and when you're done reinstalling the trim, etc. Of course anyone putting this equipment in probably wouldn't leave a pile of trash inside a wall to fall into the door path. Quality building needs quality crews. I'm got a master bath remodel in the plans and will look at these components. Thanks,

THANKS MATT,LAURIE 🤗FOR SHARING THIS, I LOVE POCKET DOORS ,… solves many problems,for moving furniture, I now live in a house built in 1917 , with pocket doors that store😁🤗💚💚💚

@buildshow

8 ай бұрын

You are so welcome!

@ShaneChristopher

6 ай бұрын

@@buildshow I would like to save this video to a playlist, but I am not given the option. Do you have that turned off on purpose?

I've spent a lot of time trying to convince people to not install pocket doors or to expect service work on them well that just changed. Even getting replacement roller parts was impossible always trying to make or change the the whole system usually they got rid of them awesome product

Thanks for this content! I have a broken slider due to a roof leak. I will be using this company.

I am in NZ and we always have used cavity sliders products. Not exactly this one with the removable jambs but very similar.

I’ve installed 5 of these, love ‘em

Cavity Sliders… absolute banger of a name😂

I've used the johnson System, and that works similar. I did 2 of them and I am not a pocket door expert. They also have the system for insetting 3/4 ply for the whole cavity, which really helps with noise.

@AidanSkoyles

8 ай бұрын

oops. matt liked a comment that promotes the competition. lol I also used the Johnson sys. A PITA to install, but cheap as chips, and, it works.

Now that's a huge set of doors

Excellent. Makes me think about using a pocket door on a remodel I have coming up.

@buildshow

9 ай бұрын

Go for it!

We dug a pair of doors out of the walls of an 1880s mansion ... some careful cleaning and the magnificent quarter-sawn oak doors were opening and closing like new. I don't know how the innards worked, but they opened just like this.

@buildshow

9 ай бұрын

Whoa! So awesome

@MrBaconis

9 ай бұрын

My cousin saved a similar era pair of pocket doors. 8' tall and 40" wide each door. They work great with the old antique hardware. Can pick up a set of that old sliding hardware for 80$ CAD from salvage. 140 years and still running seems like a better testament to quality than a paid for advertisement.

Wow! Finally a pocket door that works. 👏👏👏

Pocket doors are so posh I love them!

@buildshow

9 ай бұрын

Me too!

I had a basic house built 30 years ago. The pocket door system came prefab and ready to install as part of the wall. No soft-close.

sometimes a more expensive product is actually cheaper when you factor in labor and long term costs. knowing when that is true is called experience.

@buildshow

9 ай бұрын

Great point! Definitely the case here

@foodsafetypragmatist

7 ай бұрын

A little added expense is one thing. Spending over $1,000 on JUST a pocket door frame and hardware is offensive. Modify an off-the-shelf frame to beef it up, take time installing it correctly will prevent future headaches and save A LOT of money.

Awesome product!

As a homeowner who is prepping to do a whole house remodel, appreciate the education I get from every single Build Show Network video. I like to know what my options are so I can choose the Yugo or the Ferrari version of products that will suit my remodel and budget. I want my builder to show me these options rather than just assume want the Yugo solution. I become a better informed homeowner by watching the Build Show Network content. And for that I am truly grateful to these folks for sharing!

@thyslop1737

9 ай бұрын

Cavity sliders? I had problems with them.

@AidanSkoyles

8 ай бұрын

@@thyslop1737like what?

Wish I could get these in Canada! I have an upcoming project and would love a solid pocket door system!

They have one more step to go. In my region you get pocket doors pre-assembled and adjusted. Takes five minutes to level and install.

@shannabolser9428

9 ай бұрын

What's the company?

Alright! Noted for my next build.

We were thinking this for a ensuite masterb bedroom remodel. But decided on 2 sliding barn doors that meet in the middle due to the space to the bathroom, and we like the look of sliding barn doors, no matter what "experts" say. Had wiring to worry about, and used the dead space on the wall in the bathroom side for extra storage. But I will admit these do look slick

@CavitySlidersUSA

9 ай бұрын

Barn doors can be a great option as well!

I just installed two pocket doors and they were a hassle, it’s not something I do often and on top of that after they were installed one of them got cut wrong putting the pull handles it was the first time my partner ever installed the pull handles and the notch for the handle accidentally got notched to big so the door had to come back out and a new one installed he learned a valuable lesson, but I’ve made similar mistakes myself so as they say sh-t happens thanks for the video I’ll look into this pocket door if I install another one or two.😮

Very nice. How could you insulate for sound deadening?

Matt, do you have a recommendation for a commercial grade latch set for the pocket door? I have two bathrooms in a commercial building that need the latch mechanism upgraded to something more substantial for the amount of use that they get.

the builders around my area, southwest florida, are starting to use these now. I've done about 15 so far and have a house coming up that has 13 of these. As these get more popular I would like to see them offer frames in all standard sizes. Anything less than a 36 inch door you have to cut every horizontal piece of the frame. To me this is a big pain in the ass, especially when I have 13 coming up, of which only 2 are 36". Great product though and I am recommending them to all the builders we work for.

@buildshow

9 ай бұрын

Good feedback for them. I’ll pass that along

I love your contents.

I personally can’t wait until the price on these come down! As a remodeling contractor i find it hard to up sale cavity sliders. Many people chock on my prices normally let alone the 4xcost on cavity sliders.

My man at 3:10 using natural eye protection (squinting) drilling metal overhead while the safety glasses protect the cap. I've done it before too...

Question, what if you want or need sound insulation in the wall where the pocket door is installed? Is there room or option to install a 3" Rockwool Safe n Sound insulation along with the pocket door for a 2x6 stud wall?

Just installed three cavity sliders. One worked great. The other two not so good. The first of the two thst do not work that great is that it closes okay , but when you open it seems to hang up. The other one on both the soft open and soft close just seem to limp into place. The soft open, soft close mechanism must be defective.

I'm about to put 4 new doors in our place. we are considering pocket doors and barn doors.

@CavitySlidersUSA

9 ай бұрын

We're here if you need anything. 😊

You could see it took this guy everything in his being not to say Aluminium. 😂😂😂😂 nice product!

@shannabolser9428

9 ай бұрын

I thought the same thing. Alu-minium is a common pronunciation overseas

What application do they have block walls?

Is the doorway 34 inches? I worked in a Commonwealth Ave 4 or 5 story Brownstone which was converted to a Salon, they have wonder pocket doors, I love them. I not a fan of modern architecture, I like crown molding. I love in a 1947 home in New Hampshire a Cape Style. It's amazing how poorly they build this house compared to the two family home I lived in in Boston which was build in 1930.

Can you do a video on how to turn an existing door, in an already built house, into a pocket door? I have 2 doors I need to do this with. I also need to make it look like it was original... in an 1885 house.

my questions are is it priced similar to the Eclisse systems? Can you mount electrical boxes like the Eclisse?

I have a gripe with CAvity Sliders. I put 4 of them in my house I built for myself about two years ago. I have one of them that was open about 6" and had a 60lb dog come running through it and broke the guide. I think that's understandable. I don't expect a guide to withstand that impact. My problem is with the guides design. It is a plastic piece that fits into an aluminum plate that then slides into a grove in the bottom track. I ordered a new plastic guide then pulled the door and tne went to try to get the plate out so I could change out the guide. Well apparently that's not an option. Once the finish floor is in place there is no getting out the plate that holds the plastic guide. I couldn't believe it. This is a part that is going to need to be rep;aced every so often and there is no way to replace it. Emailed Cavity Sliders and they confirmed that I have to remove the finished floor to slide out that plate and change the guide. Come on! That is the dumbest thing I have heard of. JUst make that plate so it doesn't slide in the track! Come up with some other way of attaching it. This is the only part in the door frame that I can see that will ever need replacing and there is no way to replace it! STill a WAY better door frame than any others out there but this is a huge design flaw

I was hoping for double frosted glass pocket doors in my home. Would this system work for us? We have 9 foot ceilings.

@shannabolser9428

9 ай бұрын

They said in the video that it was rated for 500 lbs. How heavy is the door you want?

@debby8428

9 ай бұрын

@@shannabolser9428 I'm not sure yet. I know I want mostly glass. I must have missed the 500 lb part. Thank you for pointing that out!

Are there shallow receptacles to fit a light switch alongside these doors, or would the switch have to be moved down the wall where there’s room for a conventional box?

@shannabolser9428

9 ай бұрын

Not sure cause I haven't seen the specs but I would say no in a 2x4 wall and unlikely in the 2x6 wall

@patrickkenny2077

9 ай бұрын

Can always go with a low voltage or RF switch in the wall.

Why was the sheetrock ripped from the ceiling? Did you forget to do something and have to open up the cavity? I looks like the 2x6 above the top rail is new.

I was also not a big fan of pocket doors because of the low quality functionality. This seems like a much better option. It does seem like a lot of work having to hang some slab that you have to take down later to install the real doors.

How does the Sound Transmission Class (STC) for these doors compare with standard swinging doors?

@CavitySlidersUSA

9 ай бұрын

Sound transmission is insignificant through a solid core pocket door installed with tight clearances.

@jdlambert8

9 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Matt, Does anyone build a door system like this one that can be installed in an exterior wall?

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Funny you say how you don't need a specialized pocket door guy to build this, but your install has 2 pro installers plus the rep helping the whole time!

Maybe they need to design a value line with a bit less weight.

quiet feedback for the videographer, having the wall line of the entryway right in the view, and/or the fisheye lens, makes the bathroom look like it's at a different floor height.

Why can I not save this to a playlist?

@CavitySlidersUSA @buildshow Do these kits come with split jambs and all?

@CavitySlidersUSA

9 ай бұрын

Hi there! The finished trim is not included with the kitset and is installed by the finish carpenter.

@hu5tle-

9 ай бұрын

@@CavitySlidersUSA I can't find it in the video any more, it may have been edited out of the "new" version. They carpenters are snapping some white piece into your extruded AL, what is that?

Have you ever installed a packet door that is directly behind the shower with a tiled shower? Is this not recommended to insure the stability of the wall or can it be done safely with the proper pocket door system?

@jonathansage2147

Ай бұрын

It doesn't matter what's in the wall. You can put these in a shower wall. All the same water proofing detail needs still apply.

Can I use this on a retrofit

@buildshow

9 ай бұрын

Absolutely yes. This project was a remodel

Like your channel but have a suggestion: get your editor to pay more attention to audio levels. Please? thx.

Add a motor to open/close and its Star Trek!

@CavitySlidersUSA

9 ай бұрын

We also have an automatic unit 👀 kzread.info/dash/bejne/e4Khr6yqqL2dms4.html

How much they cost ?

Do they make exterior pocket doors?

@buildshow

9 ай бұрын

Cavity Slider doesn’t but I’ve installed those before. Quantum makes a nice one. Probably others too

Cost? Anyone have some idea on how much these are?

@thyslop1737

9 ай бұрын

I believe the frame with soft and hard close mechanism is $800.00

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I hate our pocket doors, wish we had these 😞

Finish carpenters really piss me off. When you call them, they NEVER answer the phone. Ever! And forget about it if they are working as an independent. They don’t text back. They don’t email back. For god sake. It’s a no bueno situation! I can also guarantee you that their voicemail is full. Got dang!

Why didn’t you did this video a couple months ago? I would have definitely insisted on these. But now my framing is up and the pocket doors are sitting in the garage. I’ve already warned my builder these better be as smooth gliding as a baby’s butt 😜

@buildshow

9 ай бұрын

😬

Love the build show Matt, but it should be mentioned that There is a fourth problem with pocket doors…. No room for j-box!

Would have loved to see it but the long infomercial about a ceramic heater has me typing this and heading elsewhere.

My recent remodel included replacing a pocket door. Nothing is right about this door.

@buildshow

9 ай бұрын

What specifically is incorrect?

@sylvias5087

9 ай бұрын

@@buildshow it won’t stay open (closes on its own) and when I try to adjust the screws at the top (so it doesn’t slide on its own), the door ends up totally crooked in the frame (with about an inch of opening at the top when the bottom of the door is flush). Its a ghetto door.

@shannabolser9428

9 ай бұрын

Sounds like the installer didn't make sure the track was level

My issue is that builders first source told me you have to buy the sliders and everything is sold piece by piece so that threw me off. So hard to justify that kinda money

@buildshow

9 ай бұрын

Hmmm. Not sure that was true. They sell kits with everything you need.

@Knappconstruction

9 ай бұрын

@@buildshow that’s what I thought as well, maybe mine here in NC is different. It also shows online frame and than add on is the rollers and ect. I love the videos you guys put out so no hate just hate when these amazing products come out and most customers avoid it because it’s so drastic in price.

@Knappconstruction

9 ай бұрын

@@buildshow I went out and bout a kit from builders first source for my personal bathroom remodel(wife wants only the best). They sold it as a frame package and the hardware separately. I’ll be making a custom walnut door so I’ll update my thoughts to see differences. Keep putting out amazing content please like always! Also total cost was $700 for everything which was cheaper than I saw so that’s nice. Still about 2-3x the Johnson kit but let’s see how it performs :) Also have a custom build in raleigh I’m doing so I’ll put them in that probably too.

I believe him, he's British.

All my interior doors are pocket doors if i had the room they would be sliding barnstyle

They better be great because it’s a grand for 1 pocket door lol. Actually not even including the slab.

@buildshow

9 ай бұрын

Cry once.

I hope this catches and costs come down. I love watching your channel, but you get into such high end expenses some times. Nice, but way above my budget.

@buildshow

9 ай бұрын

I understand and appreciate the feedback. My feedback would be stay away from less expensive pocket hardware. Use the Best….but sparingly

SUUUUUUUUPER….

Johnson has been making systems like this for years, and they are MADE IN THE USA. No reason to pay the freight from NZ to get a great quality system.... unless you are getting paid to make an infomercial.

@buildshow

9 ай бұрын

I used them for years and liked them but these are several notches above what I I used from J. Definitely a good, better, best in the pocket door world

@bestbuilder1st

9 ай бұрын

@@buildshow you must have been ordering Johnson's entry line. Their best system looks to rival this one. YMMV

I find myself compelled to stand with my hands on my hips all of a sudden.

Barn doors solved this problem...lol...mount on the outside and change it when you're sick of it...try fixing or tuning up this door in ten years, you'll have to tear the walls apart...no thanks!

please let me borrow Gilbert :)

It's very rare when you actually need these doors. They suck to build, suck to maintain, and suck to use.

@shannabolser9428

9 ай бұрын

I have one going into a closet upstairs. I love it. It would be impossible to have a swing door it it's location due to sloped ceiling and staircase. So slider was only option. When installed correctly they work well and function fine for years.

I have used these frames a fair bit and like them a lot. They still are pretty floppy at the opening, so I make my own but these are certainly a good solution See mine here if interested kzread.info/dash/bejne/daFm2pWQdJW4XbA.htmlsi=Qqo7BAWKHFATmvNB

Meh. I tried to purchase and could not get them. Johnson to the rescue. Same metal style and simple to set up.

That kiwi bloke likes to move his hands a lot when he talks doesn't he?

If you don't have time to watch then whole video, just listen for the sponsor's name. I know it's weird, but oddly, 100% of the time Matt has recieved money from the same company that makes the product he's graciously letting us know is really a super great product.

@daveklein2826

9 ай бұрын

You know NOTHING

@MrBaconis

9 ай бұрын

​@@daveklein2826oh, that's unfortunate for me.

@charlesrodriguez7984

9 ай бұрын

@@daveklein2826what?

if building the pocket and placing the hardware is not in the budget the idea should be shelved. kits are garbage sold as aspirational features that will fail prematurely

Sliding doors have terrible acoustical qualities.

Disappointing that it isn't easier to purchase this kit. 🫤

$1000 for a pocket door kit vs $200 is really hard to justify. Or at least 4x if you don’t get soft close which I find crazy.

@UnlikelyToRemember

9 ай бұрын

For a DIYers, sure. It gets a lot closer if you're paying for labor.

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These are impossible to find, and no one can tell you how much they are.

@rabidraccoon1201

9 ай бұрын

Lowes has essentially same kits

@johntherat339

9 ай бұрын

@@rabidraccoon1201 what's the kit called?

@thyslop1737

9 ай бұрын

If I recall, $800.00