Joe's best shows are one where he has other old school MMA guys and they just talk about MMA the whole time.. such good energy

@Cum007

2 жыл бұрын

Nice arm

@DudeMan-xs3db

Жыл бұрын

Like Brendan Schaub.

@deng9595

Жыл бұрын

Joe is just a good ol boy. I like all of his content tbh

Rickson had more athleticism and explosiveness than Royce. Rickson would’ve been “top gaming” a lot more, and he had some legit ground and pound. Royces “bottom game” probably got so good from a lifetime of rickson manhandling him.

@Altavilla22Mike

3 жыл бұрын

By the looks of them, I would bet all their bottom games are on point... )))

@Blue1479758

2 жыл бұрын

@@Altavilla22Mike huh?

@MinotaurvsCyclops

2 жыл бұрын

@@Blue1479758 he's saying they're gay

@Blue1479758

2 жыл бұрын

@@MinotaurvsCyclops i understand what he was saying, but it just seems like he's hating on them cause they're good looking Latin guys. There's nothing that suggests that theyre gay to me. I mean Rener is with one of the best looking woman I've ever seen.

@eldante1515

2 жыл бұрын

@@Blue1479758 he’s also joking

UFC started as a marketing campaign forJiu Jitsu.

@maxmaxie1328

4 жыл бұрын

put it this way jui jitsu came on top of all

@maxdraper6462

4 жыл бұрын

@@maxmaxie1328 kzread.info/dash/bejne/e5Oor82Qn7i0YZs.html

@maxmaxie1328

4 жыл бұрын

@Suryanto Tan UFC is the only place for the open fight, where any fighter at any discepline can take part. what you want idiot ? a wrestler with boxing gloves in boxing ring...? for that we have boxing or thi kick boxing.

@maxmaxie1328

4 жыл бұрын

@Suryanto Tan UFC is the only place for the open fight, where any fighter at any discepline can take part. what you want idiot ? a wrestler with boxing gloves in boxing ring...? for that we have boxing or thi kick boxing.

@maxdraper6462

4 жыл бұрын

@@maxmaxie1328 what he is saying is that the UFC was set up to make BJJ look really good, dont get me wrong, it's an incredibly effective martial art, but the fights where set up so that Gracie would be the victor, it was rigged..

Never heard Big John talk before - very impressive speaker.

@bofeity

4 жыл бұрын

Look up “Weighing In”, does a podcast

@amendable5401

4 жыл бұрын

I concur.

@johnderekmitchell1510

4 жыл бұрын

Big John is extremely knowledgeable and articulate. You're basically looking at the man who created the rules for MMA.

@herbthompson8937

4 жыл бұрын

Check out the whole podcast it's a good one

@paulbenipal6299

3 жыл бұрын

Check it out “weighing in “ probably one of the best podcast / show when it comes MMA .

McCarthy is really a no-nonsense kind of guy. True student of fighting and MMA. Doesn't let all that dogmatic fanfare bullsh*t of early 90s cloud his judgement.

@bitbrace

2 жыл бұрын

Well he was a cop for around 20 years

Rickson was too much of a gangster for his brothers lol

@DoseOfReality308

2 жыл бұрын

And rorion the businessman

@snowfrosty1

Жыл бұрын

sometimes a “free spirit” is hard to oversee, advice, & direct/tame. Much less control.

This is such a mind opener. I have always believed that Rumor about why Rickson never fought in the UFC to be true. Thanks John McCarthy!

@scarred10

2 жыл бұрын

I never believed it seeing as rickson was by no means a big man,he would have been far smaller and weaker than most fighters at the time.

Rickson would have legend status in US had he fought in the UFC because he was lot stronger and just a better all round fighter than Royce. Rickson's fights against Ken, Tank, Severn, and even Don Frye would have been epic. Ahh what could have been.

@luchadorito

2 жыл бұрын

God damn, prime Don Frye vs Rickson would have been amazing to watch

@fusion451

2 жыл бұрын

Rickson ducked the UFC and Pride the competition in his movie choke was pathetic

@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266

2 жыл бұрын

I think it was also about saving face. I mean, Rickson was the champion of the family, the top guy, so had he been defeated that might have put the Gracies in a bad light. I know they are legends, innovators and all around legit badasses, but they cared too much for their reput too.

@aleksanderb.5254

2 жыл бұрын

@James Walker So 2 of them which Royce beat with a BJJ can beat Rickson in the early days? When it's well known that Rickson was the best in his family at the time? And Royce said Rickson was better than him? Ok...

@boshirahmed

2 жыл бұрын

Come on Rickson made it simple, rabbit punches then take down, game over, it ruined the magic of fancy martial arts overnight. No one wanted to be a ninja after that.

John McCarthy is AWESOME! My favorite referee ever!

@The13point1

4 жыл бұрын

Duran Duran64 more favouriter than Herbert Dean?

@duranduran6415

4 жыл бұрын

@@The13point1 I just had to look him up. I will have to check him out, thank you for the recommendation.

@murdockdrinkalot83

4 жыл бұрын

MARIO " I ENJOY TO WATCH SNUFF MOVIES" YAMASAKI IS THE BEST

@alanbaum6690

4 жыл бұрын

He didn't retire McCarthy does commentating for Bellator now. I don't know why he had a falling out what happened with him and UFC but he was the best ref. It always looked like he could beat the crap out of the fighters if they got out of control too

@duranduran6415

4 жыл бұрын

@@alanbaum6690 I agree completely about him being able to whoop some ass! And being the best ref!

I heard it was Royce because he was smaller. The first UFC was more a marketing ploy for how effective Gracie jiu jitsu was. Royce goes out and submits everyone and everyone is like wow this Gracie jiu jitsu is awesome

@teeremraf5394

Жыл бұрын

They speak on that at the end of the video. I was told the same thing.

If Rickson fought in UFC 1, there would be no Gracie vs Shamrock trilogy

@danieltalamantes3763

4 жыл бұрын

Wonder how he would do against someone like Matt Hughes that would have been a great fight

@yeahbee8237

4 жыл бұрын

If Karelin had competed there would be No BJJ as we know it today

@mrstoneybrew

4 жыл бұрын

There shouldn't have been anyway.

@robertelmo7736

3 жыл бұрын

Prob not, but I have to agree he would have most likely ragdolled Royce lol.

@PhilAndersonOutside

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah Bee a young(ish) Karelian, yes. He would have changed the sport faster than Couture and the early RAW guys. As Karelian aged he wasn’t quite the same guy.

Rickson still looked like a bad ass with the gi on. It was still visually more impressive with Royce winning. It sold me.

@0ptimal

4 жыл бұрын

Yea Royce's look influenced how I felt about it a lot too. The fact that he was basically a normal looking skinny guy who could dominate way bigger guys had a huge huge impact on me. Honestly, watching him do that was a defining moment in my life, and probably for many others. Idk if Rickson would have had the same effect, because he wasn't lanky, boney, so average looking.

@joshuabrant3487

3 жыл бұрын

Just look at their faces not even anything else an Rickson clearly has the eyes of a warrior very strong facial structure too

@boshirahmed

2 жыл бұрын

He had to wear a gi, he had a silly body, nothing like movie star pecs or abs.

@pulsarlights2825

2 жыл бұрын

The best Gracie was supposed to be Rolles, but he died in a hang gliding accident in 1982 at 30. He would have been over 40 by the time of UFC 1, and Whorion never liked the guy anyway because he used to tap him regularly...lol

@boshirahmed

2 жыл бұрын

@@pulsarlights2825 I should had even after the first UF1 it took at least ten more years until MMA gyms started to open in big cities. Things take time, also evey movie has MMA in now. They use to just have one or two fancy kicks back in the day.

Rorion also sued to stop his family members from using the “Gracie” name.

@felipeb1032

4 жыл бұрын

True. He sued his cousin Carley Gracie.

@JXL21

4 жыл бұрын

Yup sued his cousins, or disconnected/took funding away from their schools. Machado is an example

@ALLSTARDECOURO2

3 жыл бұрын

source?

@CZA27

3 жыл бұрын

@@ALLSTARDECOURO2 from the mouth of jean Jacque

@rosalind1635

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine someone legally stopping you from using your own lastname.

Rickson got effed over by his own bro. What a loss to the UFC. Pity

@Jayarrin1

3 жыл бұрын

I agree! He messed up, what could have been a great fight exhibition because he couldn't control a guy!! Wow, what a loss...

@Leopar525

2 жыл бұрын

I hate the betraying family members

Rorion made Rickson sign a non compete agreement that was written in English, which rickson couldnt read at the time, that he legally couldn’t compete in the United States. Which is why Rickson competed in Japan his entire career. It’s been said before in older family interviews.

@aplacetobewithmythoughts7428

Жыл бұрын

I respect Rorion for founding the UFC because if it wasn’t for that I would probably have never known about jiu jitsu. With that said he seemed like a real scummy person with stories I’ve heard from other Gracie’s about what he did to his own family members for money.

@Gardenhoser86

11 ай бұрын

Really? Were the Gracie’s Brazilian Jews by any chance? I just want to state I by no means meant the aforementioned as a definitive and accurate statement, it was made in a pseudo comedic form of parody and thus does not in any way accurately reflect my own personal views or opinions. Herein see referendum v.2 etc…. (yeesh)

@SpiceBoy7UK23

10 ай бұрын

So basically, he screwed his own brother?! That’s horrible 😞

@CodyHinson-pm6hu

10 ай бұрын

@@SpiceBoy7UK23 that’s why there’s a lot of controversy in the Gracie family. They’re all against each other over copyright and money problems.

@goodyeoman4534

10 ай бұрын

If that's true, it's very deceitful and treacherous.

In Art Davies book “Is this legal” he said that Rorion picked Royce to fight UFC 1 because Rickson was not giving the money he earned from teaching private’s to Rorion and putting it towards the Torrance academy. He also mentions something about Rickson using the money to get his wife a massage or something like that. A very similar story that Royce was chosen basically as a punishment towards Rickson. It could have blown up in Rorions face, but it didn’t. I’ve been training BJJ since I saw Royce win in UFC 2. I was impressed with what I saw and decided I wanted to learn that.

@eadc888

4 жыл бұрын

Big D Ron. Are you a time traveller from the 90’s because your statement makes no sense. Watch the first three UFC’s and tell us what the superior art was then champ.

@harrymills2770

4 жыл бұрын

@Big D Ron : BJJ saved my brother-in-law's life in an altercation resulting from a traffic stop. Got the whole thing on his dash cam.

@eadc888

4 жыл бұрын

Big D Ron just a heads up. BJJ won’t stand a chance in standup because it’s almost entirely a ground based martial art. It’s like saying that Lennox Lewis wouldn’t stand a chance in a ground fight.

@Lopez-my1bo

4 жыл бұрын

@Big D Ron most people don't know BJJ so 9 times out of 10 you'll win. Unless your competing in mma your fine but yea it's always good to not stick to one style

@jno1725

3 жыл бұрын

BJJ is very effective and very impressive martial arts/sports but in a street fight a size 12 steel toe boots could easily turn black belt into a white belt.

The question you should really be asking is , why didn't they bring over Sakuraba to defeat the family

@adalvldadalvld

2 жыл бұрын

Because Royce first retirement was in 1995 a year before Sakuraba made his pro debut.

Dude, Joe is amazingly good with the impressions!

Ufc 1 2 and 3 were the best. Sumo wrestlers vs karate experts, gracie vs shamrock. Was interesting

Good explanation. I always assumed it was because Rickson feared Art Jimmerson. ;-)

@kallepikku4991

2 жыл бұрын

That too

0:28 very good

Very interesting im trying to find the complete interview

@ALLSTARDECOURO2

3 жыл бұрын

try spotify

@viveksuresh2839

2 жыл бұрын

They moved it from KZread to Spotify.

Check out the Rickson interview with Jocko to get his side, it's a great story

With physical appearance being the basis with the greatest prejudice in the minds of North Americans for presuming fight dominance between two opponents, Rickson looked more powerful, more athletic and just appeared to be the scrapy type compared to Royce. Whether or not it played a roll or influenced the choice of Royce to represent in the UFC over Rickson, the impact it made toward popularizing BJJ was monumental. I will always consider Royce to have been the one to open the eyes to the effectiveness and size mitigating value of BJJ.

In LA there is a long standing rumor that the Gracies prevented Gokor Civichyan from competing in ufc 1. The gracies apparently put a million dollar bet hoping Gokor could not come up with the money but some armenian mafioso put the money up and called there bluff in turn the gracies prevented Gokor from being a participant. You should interview Gokor or Royce to get to the bottom of this.

@complexblackness

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't doubt it. Probably would have leg locked them.

@Howleebra

2 жыл бұрын

they worked very hard to keep Russian wrestlers and chutebox guys out of the UFC

@rnkmode1876

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure about that one because when I was on Facebook a couple years ago I was friends with Art Davie and I asked him why Gokor wasn't in the UFC and he said he didn't know every detail but he was in fact offered the chance to be in the UFC and I guess he was busy teaching and had things going on but Art did tell me that Gokor turned down the opportunity. 🤷‍♂️ imagine that though Gokor vs Royce in the finals of UFC 1!? Would've been awesome to see.

@rnkmode1876

2 жыл бұрын

@@complexblackness not easily he wouldn't have. Ken was going for a leglock when Royce caught him with the RNC. I think it would've been a great fight though no matter what the outcome.

I never understood why each of the family members didn't have many fights. This explains it. They created the show.

Rickson versus Bas in their primes was thecfifht evryone really wanted to see. The whole Gracie family/Sakuraba deal was just a continuance of a very old grudge between Japan and South America over Jiu-jitsu.

@CW-ke8rk

4 жыл бұрын

As much as I love Bas, he would’ve got embarrassed by Rickson back then. Ken Shamrock tapped out Bas twice in the day, if I remember correctly. Imagine what Rickson would’ve done? Bas evolved with the times though after and got real good in the grappling.

@youmadbro7733

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. I love Bas as well but I don't think he would have had a chance against Rickson.

@rnkmode1876

2 жыл бұрын

@@CW-ke8rk Exactly, and since Royce made Ken tap, imagine the scenario with Rickson? 😳 Ken would've been completely Destroyed by Rickson.

@kallepikku4991

2 жыл бұрын

The primed at different times. Rickson's prime was in late 80s, Bas primed in mid 90s. There's almost a decade gap between them. But let's be honest, if we magically had a late 80s Rickson vs a mid 90s Bas, Bas would smash Rickson easy. Rickson had no striking, coupled with awkward Gracie stance and poor wrestling skills. That's just a recipe for disaster against Bas Rutten. He'd be liver shot to death. LMAO

Good to see Big John McCarthy.

He had the look

the fact roice wearing a gi in a fight is still unreal for me but it works

Why is everyone typing Royce and Rickson but they are saying Hoyce and Hickson so clearly. I've never heard Rs sound like Hs in any language

@KrikZ32

2 жыл бұрын

It's just how it's pronounced in Brazilian Portugese (and maybe original Portugese?) when a word starts with an R. It's why Royce sounds like Hoyce, but Gracie doesn't sound like Ghacie.

Sorry if this is a stupid question but why the need to control Rickson? Like what was Rorion trying to prevent from happening?

Rickson fought more brutal than Royce.

@user-ur6lx8eu9y

4 жыл бұрын

this is real Ju Jutsu-Bushido

@SebastianGonzalez-cf1jl

4 жыл бұрын

@Nate Dogg i believe his son had just passed man.

@SebastianGonzalez-cf1jl

4 жыл бұрын

Nate Dogg 😂😂alright bro if u say so

@BadgerBJJ

4 жыл бұрын

Nate Dogg he didn’t duck Sakaraba. They actually signed to fight, but cancelled because of Rockson. That’s hardly “ducking” Sak. By 2002/03 Rickson was already in his mid-40’s. The real fight that never got made was Rickson VS Bas Rutten or Frank Shamrock.

@pikkon899

4 жыл бұрын

@@BadgerBJJ The fight happened in 2000 not 2002. Rickson was also undefeated and still competing in his 40's. His last fight was in May 26, 2000 at the age of 42. Sakuraba beat Royce on May 1, 2000. Rickson still took 1 more fight in the same month against Funaki who was 31 and at that point, beat up and past his prime. Funaki went on to lose 3 fights in a row including one to Sakuraba after Rickson. During that same year, Sakuraba went on to defeat other Gracies and Rickson did nothing about it. He didn't have another professional fight from May 2000 onward. Sakuraba beat Royce under Gracie Rules. Rickson tried to have the rules changed prior to the fight against Funaki as well. In the end, headbutts and elbows here banned. They will always have their place in MMA but this is a pattern that can be seen anywhere the Gracies are present.

Imagine a parallel universe where Rickson competed...

@gerryisaacherrera9883

4 жыл бұрын

Oh you mean PRIDE

@exitwound3931

4 жыл бұрын

You gotta look into it.

@SupremeChimp

4 жыл бұрын

Then got owned by Saku. That would have been awesome.

@G4MBIT

4 жыл бұрын

@@SupremeChimp Saku was a beast. It's no shame in losing to a prime Saku.

@SupremeChimp

4 жыл бұрын

@@G4MBIT Didn't say there was homie. Just bummed we never got to see Saku fuck up the 'greatest' Gracie.

It took to decades to catch Fedor into triangle.

If only there were grapplers (e.g. wrestling) in the early UFC, MMA history would be different -- it was meant to highlight BJJ.

@RoChede

3 жыл бұрын

Shamrock ? Dan Severn ?

@kallepikku4991

2 жыл бұрын

@@RoChede He means proper world class wrestlers in their primes. Not some 37 year old retirees, who never really won any major wrestling event. LoL. Pitching world champion guys in their primes from one sport against retired old men of another sport is just intellectual dishonesty.

@Butch_117

2 жыл бұрын

@@kallepikku4991 What about Mark Schultz lol

@kallepikku4991

2 жыл бұрын

@@Butch_117 Mark Schultz went there and completely destroyed his opponent. I think he was fighting Gary Goodridge. But that was not "early UFC", that was alread something like UFC 9 or something, during the dark ages where you couldn't find UFC anywhere due to broadcasting bans. So nobody really saw those matches.

@scarred10

2 жыл бұрын

@@kallepikku4991 no prime wrestler is going to compete in a sport hes never trained for and risk serious injury .Closest at the time were kevin jackson and kenny monday,both olympic gold medalists,kenny double gold.

Rickson would have looked smaller in a gi than Royce. He's not a big guy at all. So Rorian's reason for not choosing him doesn't make much sense. It was definitely related to Gracie family politics.

@eeyore077

4 жыл бұрын

sure, but it's a fact Rickson was more jacked and muscular than Royce

@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266

2 жыл бұрын

I think it had something to do with reputation too: Rickson was the holy cow so they might have been uncomfortable to expose him to potential defeat, thus they gave the opportunity to Royce.

@siasti

2 жыл бұрын

@@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266 You're forgetting that no one knew the Gracies (outside Brazil) so it wouldn't have mattered if Rickson had lost though I doubt that anyone in the world could have beaten him except maybe Marco Ruas

@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266

2 жыл бұрын

@@siasti Even if nobody knew them outside of Brazil, they did care about their reputation. They backed off a challenge by Benny Urquidez prior to those events already. They have a history of protecting their image fyi.

when they kept calling skinny sakuraba they ran away from the heavy guys like mark kerr, randleman, wanderley silva, belfort and igor vovchanchyn...

Royce Gracie vs Gokor Chivichyan is my dream fight that never happened

@mattmatthews4274

4 жыл бұрын

I was hoping for a judo's Gene lebell vs. Gracie back then

@danieltalamantes3763

4 жыл бұрын

@@mattmatthews4274 gene was already getting old at that point but I think he could've done some serious damage to anyone. Gokor is Gene's student also

Joes got that Joyce impression down 🤓

The real reason is that they needed someone w a padded record and to be undefeated. The Gracie marketing is undefeated

The takeaway here is that Rorion is the Brazilian version of Billy Mays.

So if they couldn’t use Rickson for that reason then why use Royce? There were a lot more Gracies at that time better than Royce. I believe what Rorion and Helio said, use the smaller less skilled Royce Gracie to really prove the effectiveness of GJJ.

@scarred10

2 жыл бұрын

Because royce stayed at torrance academy and didmt break away like rickson.

@GuaranteedEtern

Жыл бұрын

Because this is all just the mythology of Rickson and Gracie JJ that's existed since UFC 1 (at least in north America)

Why do their names flop back and forth? Hickson / Rickson... Royce / Hoyce???

@juamkarloz89

4 жыл бұрын

because brazilians pronounce R as a "h sound"... they dont roll the tonge...

@ryanhalien8468

4 жыл бұрын

It’s not going back and forth, they pronounced the names the same way the whole time, the difference is just In spelling and pronunciation, the spelling is Rickson, the pronunciation is Hickson because of how Brazilian Portuguese is pronounced

@josephrodriguez5320

4 жыл бұрын

Juan Silva FINALLY. A fucking answer to this madness. Been fucking me up 😂

@mule1783

3 жыл бұрын

Spelled with an R, pronounced like an H

Royce was the smallest in the family, to prove their point at the time, they put the little guy in, and won

@thereisnopandemic

2 жыл бұрын

And they only put him against strikers that had no experience. The times he got out in there with wrestlers he got dominated. Rickson would of gotten exposed by Sakuraba.

Thumbnail dude looks like he's getting blown under the desk

Pure marketing and entertainment, that’s it

Allowing the grapplers to wear the wardrobe......was more unfair than most folks realized

Joyce would have lost to Dan Severn in their fight had Dan been willing to maul him with strikes. If its True Rickson was more dominate top fighter that would have been an interesting fight as Severn was a a wrestler with no bottom game then.

@misterrr7

2 жыл бұрын

yeah right. Dan lost because he worried for the guy. Like in next event UFC 5 where he grounded and pounded everyone?

@vd6637

2 жыл бұрын

@@misterrr7 He learned his lesson. He thought he could out wrestle him which he could technically out "wrestle" but he could not outsubmit him. He chose to change his game to fit his skills.

Rickson was a better grappler and surely a better striker, at least at g'n'p..the other "complete" fighter was Renzo

I remember when UFC 1-5 were out and fantasizing about their being a BJJ club near me. Fast forward and I'm spoilt for choice. There's even a Gracie one less than a mile away.

I did 2 years of martial arts when the UFC first started and REALLY enjoyed the early UFC tournaments and have rarely watched it since. The weight classes, more rules, etc., made it much less fun to watch.

@MitchJohnson0110

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but if they didn't add rules it wouldn't have become the huge sport it is today. And we wouldn't get nearly as many entertaining fights. It would just be the heavyweights dominating once they figured out BJJ. Even back then Dan Severn would have mauled Royce if he even had a little training in BJJ. Even without it he dominated the whole fight until he got caught in a triangle choke which he probably didn't even know existed lol

@SenorJuan2023

2 жыл бұрын

@@MitchJohnson0110 I don't consider it entertaining anymore. Fighters aren't aggressive enough. I watched one entire card last year where the only good fight was the one female match. The male matches always had one guy whose heart wasn't in it or a guy who didn't have comparable skill.

@MitchJohnson0110

2 жыл бұрын

@@SenorJuan2023 You haven't been watching much then because last year alone had some absolute banger , high action, fights that i would much rather watch than 90% of the older fights which were usually two out of shape dudes throwing middle school punches or laying on top of each other. You gonna tell me Holloway vs Kattar wasn't a banger? cmon

Hickson, hoyce and horion lmao 🤣

Crazy how normal Joe seemed back then.

Joe ‘ Two Rumours’ Rogan

I would be happy to see Rixon or Jixon or Rolls , whom ever , trying to wrestle Karelin.

@byronjuarez656

2 жыл бұрын

I have no doubt that prime Rickson could take prime Aleksander Karelin, should both not cross train any more than they already did. Of course, it's be under BJJ rules. Karelin would start strong but w/no GNP training and no sub defense, he'd walk into a submission. Like how inexperienced Brock Lesnar gave his leg to Frank Mir. Idk too much about Karelin (only the famous stuff.) He competed at 6'3", 285 lbs. His signature move is "The Karelin Lift." The Karelin Lift is basically a dead lift (opponent is belly down, limp - dead weight, to avoid being pinned.) Rickson could care less how many times Karelin brute forces him up and down. Idc how strong Karelin is - there is no perfect athlete and Karelin would gas trying to chain nonstop sprinting moves on an opponent who gives no shits about the clock. Even Fedor, who respects Karelin a great deal (as all Russians do) said it would be unfair to compare Fedor vs Karelin, due to the rules differences between Greco-Roman and MMA.

@anatolyalperovich9069

2 жыл бұрын

@@byronjuarez656 you are totally clueless of wrestling. You must be a BJJ practitioner

@anatolyalperovich9069

2 жыл бұрын

@@byronjuarez656 many ufc champs had explained. Olympic wrestling is much more intense in training and competition.

@anatolyalperovich9069

2 жыл бұрын

@@byronjuarez656 if you were right, all the olympic champs of wrestling and judo would be Brazilians. Meanwhile , i am waiting for the second time a bjj practitioner submit a Russia wrestler . The first was verdum , but Fedor os not an olympic wrestler . The only olympian in ufc is Romero. And he was never submitted . You , as well, probably think, Gracys had invented the low breathing exercise . In the east everyone does it. Even if not a fighter or a wrestler .

@byronjuarez656

2 жыл бұрын

@@anatolyalperovich9069 Many UFC wrestlers have been tapped due to lack of BJJ knowledge. -Randy Couture (Olympic Alternate) tapped out to Enson Inoue. -Brock Lesnar (Div 1 All American) was 0-1 vs Frank Mir before learning BJJ. -Matt Hughes (Div 1 All American) is 0-2 vs Dennis Hallman. Hughes lasted SECONDS both times. -Matt Lindland (Olympic Silver Medallist) tapped out TWICE (same match, same submission) vs Maurillo Bustamante. -Kevin Jackson (Olympic Gold Medallist) got tapped by Frank Shamrock, then Frank's former student, Jerry Bohlander. I can imagine Jackson's shame in losing to a student who isn't even the best In his home gym. -Chael Sonnen said in his own podcast that "pure BJJ beats pure wrestling." Same episode, Chael quoted Mark Schultz (Olympic Gold Medallist in Freestyle) in saying "pure BJJ beats pure wrestling." Schultz admitted this after Rickson tapped him serval times. -Educate yourself before you post here. AA, you should research who you're bashing. That way your base intelligence will be AVERAGE instead of what you brought to this conversation. Why would you expect a Brazilian jiu-jitsu artist to win at wrestling or judo. Different sport, different rules. Your level of ignorance forcing me to explain this... Ever watch ADCC? The highest paying grappling competition in the word? Dominated by BJJ. Not that it's any of your business but I've trained BJJ and wrestling. It's admittedly hard to join a wrestling club after college. The only wrestling club in my hometown caters exclusively to high school students and younger.

Joe Rogan’s Brazilian accent is on point

Why does nobody talk about Relson ?

He hasn't aged since UFC1...at all

Ben Affleck’s Bruce Wayne😂

Here it is the gracies said helio said for royce to do it. Royce even said himself, on tape, that they were all trying to decide who should go and he said 'can i try?'

Damn I thought it was a size thing this whole time but if Big John says it’s BS then that it is. 🤔

would have loved to have seen Rickson vs Sakuraba in their primes. that would have truly been the fight of the century. my vote goes to saku although i believe each man had a 50-50 chance. ironically both weighed 188 lbs

@kevlarunderwear22

5 жыл бұрын

I always thought Rickson was hesitant to do it because he may have felt he was past his prime when the rumors of making that fight took place. but I don't know that for sure.

@kevlarunderwear22

5 жыл бұрын

I agree.

@lenonkitchens7727

5 жыл бұрын

Rickson pulled out of that fight because of Rockson's death. He was so devastated he didn't train for 2 years after.

@AroundElvesWatchUrselves96

5 жыл бұрын

Sakuraba OP

@tonecapone2768

4 жыл бұрын

@nyc king really didn't do to good vs ALLAN GOES...if you saw that fight saka lost... and allan didn't want any of rickson.

Wow i was just thinking who was the better Gracie and i thought was renzo but man i was wrong

Fuck me, Adam Sandler’s been hitting the gym!!!!

I thought it was because Hixson's son died and he didn't want to find Anymore

The point was made nonetheless. That Royce vs. Kimo fight made me a believer of jiu-jitsu!

@SimpleManGuitars1973

4 жыл бұрын

What about the Severn fight where it "looked" like Severn was dominating and then all of a sudden he was tapping? I was just a young teenager then and was amazed by all that.

@drbrendankishketon

4 жыл бұрын

DuckTalesWooHoo1987 That one too!!

@mikerichardson60

4 жыл бұрын

That made me believe that hair grabbing is dirty af

@drbrendankishketon

4 жыл бұрын

Mike Richardson No rules. Gotta use what you can use to maintain distance control when a big ole boy trynna smash your face in. I don’t think it’s dirty at all. You can grab the head or grab the hair, whatever he gives you. It was effective nonetheless. He maintained the closeness to render punches ineffective. Also, it teaches us another lesson not to wear man buns! lol

@BuckfastConsumer

3 жыл бұрын

Royce with no gii?what you think

Early UFC would have been far more impressive if a higher level of talent was allowed in all the way around.

He looks and sound like Steve Blackman

Rickson was in his corner

@4gegtyreeyuyeddffvyt

4 жыл бұрын

I tap Rickson every day

Royce is just perfect man to rep jujutsu. If rickson rep jujutsu it not gonna works. People gonna said nonsense like rickson win cause of physical strength not skills or techniques. So royce is just perfect. He dont look athletic. Just pure skills and techniques.

Lets face the facts, The Roice Challenge was already a thing and winning everything...

I could listen to John all day lol

The question Joe should have asked Big John next is just how he knew that information was really true? If the Gracie family is sticking to that other narrative, where did the "can't control Rickson" narrative come from that Big John heard it? How does he know for sure that is a fact compared to the other one? Did Rickson actually tell him personally? I didn't see this episode of the podcast, so if that was actually answered, I'd be interested to hear it. Thanks.

@okayretard6050

2 жыл бұрын

Big John is close with pretty much the whole Gracie family so there’s a chance he could’ve heard it from Rickson. Either way I believe what he said

@jmctv8419

Жыл бұрын

Rickson has a book called breath where he basically confirms this I believe he says that he was not picked as they did not want him becoming to big as he wasn’t easy to control

they wanted to prove a weaker guy could beat everyone with BJJ

Could’ve , should’ve, would’ve… History will always have Royce as the game changer for martial arts who introduced and popularised the ground game and it’s effectiveness and efficiency to win a match. Rickson may have been goku and Bruce Lee together, but it didn’t happen.

@asasipogi

2 жыл бұрын

absofuckinglutely

McCarthy is wrong about Rickson's physical attributes. Nobody worked harder in the family at strength, stamina as well as technique. Sure he was only ten pounds heavier but it was 10 pounds of muscle that doesn't get tired, like ever. It's one attribute Rigan Machado talked about, Rickson gets stronger as the fight goes on. Rickson also did wicked neck exercises using a strong rubber band wrapped around his head secured to a wall or door. That's why he could take a punch. The neck absorbs the shock. Funaki broke his orbital bone in his face in the opening exchange and it didn't even slow him down. His front knee kicks were very strong too. Damaging. Not just for diversion.

@scarred10

2 жыл бұрын

He took a punch from funaki, a man with no striking ability and no neck strengthening helps punch resistance.Rickson has never been hit with any good head punches in any fight.

And Rolls Gracie was even better than Rickson, which is saying a lot. Spooky.

@SotallyToberYT

4 жыл бұрын

Rolls Royce Gracie

@richieguadagno6861

4 жыл бұрын

Ahmed Khaled lol

@CashRitch4

4 жыл бұрын

You a bjj fam and name your kid rolls?! Thats tough!!!

@mule1783

3 жыл бұрын

That's kinda debatable. Rolls was definitely the best in the family prior to dying but Rickson was a young kid at that point. Theres really no way to say who would have wound up being better.

@leandrojuarez1369

3 жыл бұрын

Rickson have only 18 years old at that time and Rolls was 25 years old and kinda is peak. Dont be a dummy.

Bjm don’t kno wut he talking about Rickson is huge I met him in person very respectful man too but very intense at same time. Rickson GOAT

Big "lie" John Mcarthy apparently never heard Rickson himself say they refused to pay him enuf money

…this had to be all about EGO. Rickson should of being the one in ( Royce did an amazing job but). It’s a shame that the family ego got in Ricksen way ..shame over opening a school in Cali. Really sad..great family still

Sakuraba smashed them all until he couldnt tho 🤷‍♂️

Is that Adam sandler

Rickson was the bull in the woods. It should have been him. Love Royce, but.....

Much respect for Rickson, probably is/was better than Royce, but I can’t say for sure that he would’ve done as well as Royce in the UFC at that time.

@mosiaotunya44

2 жыл бұрын

Rickson recently did the Jocko podcast. Excellent interview and gives his side of this

Hickson Gracie would have battered Hoyce Gracie.

Hickson, Rickson and Hoyce, Royce? ?

I keep hearing hickson

@B0lshevik

4 жыл бұрын

In Brazilian Portuguese an 'R' at the start of a name is pronounced like the 'H' in house. Rickson sounds like Hickson, Royce like Hoyce, Renzo like Henzo etc

@The13point1

4 жыл бұрын

Pedho the Hock Hizzo

@20FreeWill

4 жыл бұрын

Your name is Danny Howland in Brasil

John Mccarthy looked like such a doosh back in the day I'm glad he grew out of that phase

Here's a good drinking game: the first name, is it a Gracie, or a Targaryen?

Karelin would have smashed them all.

@scarred10

2 жыл бұрын

Karelin never trained mma

This guy looks like a better looking bert kreischer

McCarthy is wrong. Art Davie says Rickson wanted a 1 million dollar appearance fee.

@calamorta

4 жыл бұрын

@D But he's not talking for himself, he quoted Art Davie. It's not Paul Butler vs Big Jon.

@paulbutler1133

3 жыл бұрын

@D Z Art Davie was at the meeting, big John wasn't. You can see the video here on KZread.

Wasn't Rickson supposed to fight Sakuraba after he beat Renzo, Royler and Royce?

@dabrazillionaire

3 жыл бұрын

Yes indeed but Rickson's youngest son Rockson passed away in 2001 at the age of 18, He details it in this interview on why he didn't fight Marco Ruas, Mark Coleman and Sakuraba: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mI51lJqFprTfdco.html

@mule1783

3 жыл бұрын

Yes but his son died and he lost the desire to fight anymore

@pulsarlights2825

3 жыл бұрын

I remember when the son died, but it's funny how it took him a decade plus to grieve, so the fight never happened.....

@dabrazillionaire

3 жыл бұрын

​@Jeff Holland You can say that to Rickson himself via direct message on Instagram.

@dabrazillionaire

3 жыл бұрын

@Jeff Holland It wasn't meant to scare you. I'm just saying you can tell that to Rickson instead of being the "internet tough guy" yourself.

Rickson depends on hype. He won some fights but hyped his records without any proof of anything. Training matches don't count. Royce did good till others realized you had to grapple. Then we saw how his skill matched up against MMA fighters. So they created super fights. Then it showed how he wasn't going to win any longer. So he left. Just like in Pride and Sakuraba. One Gracie after another vs someone who understood Grappling. Watch the video's. Gracie wouldn't even fight at one point till the gracies got their way. And Royce still lost.

I remember watching the early ufc when Royce was competing but it wasn't nearly as big as it is now.

Gracie, Gracie. The Gracie hunter beat most of them Sukariba. He even called out Rickson. Rickson denied the fight after Sukariba destroyed Royce

@darenmcallister5124

2 жыл бұрын

👍

@allrounder242

2 жыл бұрын

Wow look another keyboard warrior with zero knowledge about martial arts Sakuraba was a mixed martial artist meanwhile the gracies only fought using bjj Ofcourse a mixed martial artist will win against any single martial art u dumb fk

@scarred10

2 жыл бұрын

@@allrounder242 renzo and ryan trained as mma fighters, so did royce but sak still beat them all.

@joaoamaral7323

4 ай бұрын

His son passed away, that’s why Rickson didn’t fight Sakuraba

much respect for big john but the way you break up fighters, the head butt tackle..which is now practiced by refs who have followed your example..has got to go...no reason to hurt fighters to stop the fight.

@whaddyathink949

4 жыл бұрын

Which fight(s) did McCarthy hurt people like that? Not debating, i'd like to see the footage.

@victario888

4 жыл бұрын

@@whaddyathink949 pls get out the you tube video.. UFC 11 the "Proving Ground", the fighter's name is Brian Johnston, busted his nose, also when big john dives in and tackles fighters he can blow out their knee as he blind sides them. My point is this tackle technique has now been adopted by too many refs and should be prohibited.

If Royce Gracie is not allowed to wear a Gi in the octagon Shamrock would have killed him.

@multimeter2859

4 жыл бұрын

Shamrock wasn't allowed to wear his wrestling shoes either.

@renatoantunes4988

3 жыл бұрын

@@multimeter2859 exactly. Nor Art Jimmerson of wearing a boxing glove. American tend to get trigger about Royce Gracie because Royce was very good and finished the American fighters in the 1st ufc.

@renatoantunes4988

3 жыл бұрын

Cry more. Ken Shamrock wasnt a match for Royce. Ken was just muscles, no technichs. Respect the Brazilian and 3 times ufc champion Royce Gracie.

I heard the Joe Rogan version.