Royce is just perfect man to rep jujutsu. If rickson rep jujutsu it not gonna works. People gonna said nonsense like rickson win cause of physical strength not skills or techniques. So royce is just perfect. He dont look athletic. Just pure skills and techniques.
@user-iu4kr5yr7o4 ай бұрын
Sorry if this is a stupid question but why the need to control Rickson? Like what was Rorion trying to prevent from happening?
@leonardwilliams77724 ай бұрын
Rickson was the bull in the woods. It should have been him. Love Royce, but.....
@SINdaBlock4117 ай бұрын
"truth" ... none of that whole circus Gracie Jiu Jitsu infomercial bullcrap show was real
@Ethiokarate17 ай бұрын
I thought it was because Hixson's son died and he didn't want to find Anymore
@alkemus7 ай бұрын
Damn, look at Joe before he moved to Texas and became an alcoholic. He had great skin.
@jimbo87438 ай бұрын
Joes got that Joyce impression down 🤓
@jugo19449 ай бұрын
Here's a good drinking game: the first name, is it a Gracie, or a Targaryen?
@ahuidog371110 ай бұрын
Hickson, hoyce and horion lmao 🤣
@kuzushisakuraba271911 ай бұрын
Rickson wanted to prove that a 70 percent discount of himself was enough to beat everyone in the UFC.
@goodyeoman453411 ай бұрын
I remember when UFC 1-5 were out and fantasizing about their being a BJJ club near me. Fast forward and I'm spoilt for choice. There's even a Gracie one less than a mile away.
@VirmanaMarketing11 ай бұрын
I trained with Rickson on Pico and it was crazy to see Rick in against chuck norris... and other premier fighters
@linuxisbetter011 ай бұрын
The real reason is that they needed someone w a padded record and to be undefeated. The Gracie marketing is undefeated
@scoobydoo316us Жыл бұрын
Rickson depends on hype. He won some fights but hyped his records without any proof of anything. Training matches don't count. Royce did good till others realized you had to grapple. Then we saw how his skill matched up against MMA fighters. So they created super fights. Then it showed how he wasn't going to win any longer. So he left. Just like in Pride and Sakuraba. One Gracie after another vs someone who understood Grappling. Watch the video's. Gracie wouldn't even fight at one point till the gracies got their way. And Royce still lost.
@Youre_Right Жыл бұрын
I heard it was Royce because he was smaller. The first UFC was more a marketing ploy for how effective Gracie jiu jitsu was. Royce goes out and submits everyone and everyone is like wow this Gracie jiu jitsu is awesome
@teeremraf5394 Жыл бұрын
They speak on that at the end of the video. I was told the same thing.
@DuplicitousDark Жыл бұрын
didnt Rickson price himself out?
@flowrepins6663 Жыл бұрын
when they kept calling skinny sakuraba they ran away from the heavy guys like mark kerr, randleman, wanderley silva, belfort and igor vovchanchyn...
@flowrepins6663 Жыл бұрын
rickson is the worst in the family he is the only one that didnt went to take a beating from sakuraba
@xtlm Жыл бұрын
I never understood why each of the family members didn't have many fights. This explains it. They created the show.
@MondoArtista. Жыл бұрын
is this the smart one? he knows more about the thing than who made the thing? 🖕🤣🖕
@christianprimig3362 Жыл бұрын
the fact roice wearing a gi in a fight is still unreal for me but it works
@luizfigobr Жыл бұрын
they wanted to prove a weaker guy could beat everyone with BJJ
@Kobraki12 жыл бұрын
Say what you want but Royce was dirty never been a fan. #dontcareroycesucks
@ericg49152 жыл бұрын
John Mccarthy looked like such a doosh back in the day I'm glad he grew out of that phase
@ericg49152 жыл бұрын
Is that Adam sandler
@bennybooboo67892 жыл бұрын
Because he was the worst of the Gracies at the time, and if he could do it, none of the others would have struggled.
@StuartOden2 жыл бұрын
Joe's best shows are one where he has other old school MMA guys and they just talk about MMA the whole time.. such good energy
@Cum0072 жыл бұрын
Nice arm
@DudeMan-xs3db Жыл бұрын
Like Brendan Schaub.
@deng9595 Жыл бұрын
Joe is just a good ol boy. I like all of his content tbh
@SenorJuan20232 жыл бұрын
I did 2 years of martial arts when the UFC first started and REALLY enjoyed the early UFC tournaments and have rarely watched it since. The weight classes, more rules, etc., made it much less fun to watch.
@MitchJohnson01102 жыл бұрын
Yeah but if they didn't add rules it wouldn't have become the huge sport it is today. And we wouldn't get nearly as many entertaining fights. It would just be the heavyweights dominating once they figured out BJJ. Even back then Dan Severn would have mauled Royce if he even had a little training in BJJ. Even without it he dominated the whole fight until he got caught in a triangle choke which he probably didn't even know existed lol
@SenorJuan20232 жыл бұрын
@@MitchJohnson0110 I don't consider it entertaining anymore. Fighters aren't aggressive enough. I watched one entire card last year where the only good fight was the one female match. The male matches always had one guy whose heart wasn't in it or a guy who didn't have comparable skill.
@MitchJohnson01102 жыл бұрын
@@SenorJuan2023 You haven't been watching much then because last year alone had some absolute banger , high action, fights that i would much rather watch than 90% of the older fights which were usually two out of shape dudes throwing middle school punches or laying on top of each other. You gonna tell me Holloway vs Kattar wasn't a banger? cmon
@Carrera_Quan2 жыл бұрын
War Saku!
@shondoyle82892 жыл бұрын
Good to see Big John McCarthy.
@Red_AIert2 жыл бұрын
Damn I thought it was a size thing this whole time but if Big John says it’s BS then that it is. 🤔
@albrrt4302 жыл бұрын
Royce was the smallest in the family, to prove their point at the time, they put the little guy in, and won
@thereisnopandemic2 жыл бұрын
And they only put him against strikers that had no experience. The times he got out in there with wrestlers he got dominated. Rickson would of gotten exposed by Sakuraba.
@karlsuapaia17492 жыл бұрын
Wow i was just thinking who was the better Gracie and i thought was renzo but man i was wrong
@salvagemonster36122 жыл бұрын
Because the first few were rigged and Gracies were allowed advantages that others weren’t. It was to market their product
@lazyoldman93552 жыл бұрын
Ok....how the hell do they get "Hickson" from "Rickson"? I know a little Spanish and J = H sound but not "R", right?!?
@robdeskrd Жыл бұрын
They don't speak Spanish in Brazil, they speak Portuguese
@mannycalavera1212 жыл бұрын
Ufc 1 2 and 3 were the best. Sumo wrestlers vs karate experts, gracie vs shamrock. Was interesting
@mookie4492 жыл бұрын
Rogan is a such a twerp.
@PakiFighter2 жыл бұрын
People praising Rickson, he was nothing compared to Rolls.
@pierelenigus85982 жыл бұрын
I'm betting that 2022 is the year joe rogan finally comes out of the closet. It's the only thing that makes sense for him at this point. No one is buying him as a straight guy any longer and he keeps trying to french kiss the fighters that come onto his podcast.
@jimhouse99612 жыл бұрын
Fuck you. You want the BBC so bad that you have to project? Sad. Just come out already.
@boytjiejoolz2 жыл бұрын
....result, we now have to be forced to be impressed by two roided dudes HAND? fighting or the highly technical FENCE PRESSING? For 5 rounds WTF.
@vd66372 жыл бұрын
Joyce would have lost to Dan Severn in their fight had Dan been willing to maul him with strikes. If its True Rickson was more dominate top fighter that would have been an interesting fight as Severn was a a wrestler with no bottom game then.
@misterrr72 жыл бұрын
yeah right. Dan lost because he worried for the guy. Like in next event UFC 5 where he grounded and pounded everyone?
@vd66372 жыл бұрын
@@misterrr7 He learned his lesson. He thought he could out wrestle him which he could technically out "wrestle" but he could not outsubmit him. He chose to change his game to fit his skills.
@unholywarrior90072 жыл бұрын
So ufc 1 was entertaining but I think it was rigged pretend
@jimmythunderhands19472 жыл бұрын
Royce is better than Rickson, he did what he did because he is the greatest fighter to ever walk the face of the earth. His greatness is self evident. He doesnt need men to go out and make him excuses why he wasnt there, he doesnt even have to go out and make excuses for himself. His visible body of work causes even the feeblest of minds to admit that none before or after him are his equal. He is THE GOAT the one and only GOAT.
@CodyHinson-pm6hu2 жыл бұрын
Rorion made Rickson sign a non compete agreement that was written in English, which rickson couldnt read at the time, that he legally couldn’t compete in the United States. Which is why Rickson competed in Japan his entire career. It’s been said before in older family interviews.
@aplacetobewithmythoughts7428 Жыл бұрын
I respect Rorion for founding the UFC because if it wasn’t for that I would probably have never known about jiu jitsu. With that said he seemed like a real scummy person with stories I’ve heard from other Gracie’s about what he did to his own family members for money.
@Gardenhoser86 Жыл бұрын
Really? Were the Gracie’s Brazilian Jews by any chance? I just want to state I by no means meant the aforementioned as a definitive and accurate statement, it was made in a pseudo comedic form of parody and thus does not in any way accurately reflect my own personal views or opinions. Herein see referendum v.2 etc…. (yeesh)
@SpiceBoy7UK2311 ай бұрын
So basically, he screwed his own brother?! That’s horrible 😞
@CodyHinson-pm6hu11 ай бұрын
@@SpiceBoy7UK23 that’s why there’s a lot of controversy in the Gracie family. They’re all against each other over copyright and money problems.
@goodyeoman453411 ай бұрын
If that's true, it's very deceitful and treacherous.
@HrothlorienGaming2 жыл бұрын
Hickson....not Rickson....You stupid fucks 🤣🖕
@DK-yz9xk2 жыл бұрын
Sakuraba smashed them all until he couldnt tho 🤷♂️
@mykelgreene9112 жыл бұрын
No matter all the Grace's are afraid of Marcus Rua the king of the streets & former ufc champion!
@maxxxmodelz40612 жыл бұрын
The question Joe should have asked Big John next is just how he knew that information was really true? If the Gracie family is sticking to that other narrative, where did the "can't control Rickson" narrative come from that Big John heard it? How does he know for sure that is a fact compared to the other one? Did Rickson actually tell him personally? I didn't see this episode of the podcast, so if that was actually answered, I'd be interested to hear it. Thanks.
@okayretard60502 жыл бұрын
Big John is close with pretty much the whole Gracie family so there’s a chance he could’ve heard it from Rickson. Either way I believe what he said
@jmctv8419 Жыл бұрын
Rickson has a book called breath where he basically confirms this I believe he says that he was not picked as they did not want him becoming to big as he wasn’t easy to control
@hazchem12 жыл бұрын
Royce spent more time on his back than an 80's New York Prostitute. That's not fighting in my book. If you do that in any other environment you're getting furniture piled on top of you.
@christosdemitrious4492 жыл бұрын
Bjm don’t kno wut he talking about Rickson is huge I met him in person very respectful man too but very intense at same time. Rickson GOAT
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Royce is just perfect man to rep jujutsu. If rickson rep jujutsu it not gonna works. People gonna said nonsense like rickson win cause of physical strength not skills or techniques. So royce is just perfect. He dont look athletic. Just pure skills and techniques.
Sorry if this is a stupid question but why the need to control Rickson? Like what was Rorion trying to prevent from happening?
Rickson was the bull in the woods. It should have been him. Love Royce, but.....
"truth" ... none of that whole circus Gracie Jiu Jitsu infomercial bullcrap show was real
I thought it was because Hixson's son died and he didn't want to find Anymore
Damn, look at Joe before he moved to Texas and became an alcoholic. He had great skin.
Joes got that Joyce impression down 🤓
Here's a good drinking game: the first name, is it a Gracie, or a Targaryen?
Hickson, hoyce and horion lmao 🤣
Rickson wanted to prove that a 70 percent discount of himself was enough to beat everyone in the UFC.
I remember when UFC 1-5 were out and fantasizing about their being a BJJ club near me. Fast forward and I'm spoilt for choice. There's even a Gracie one less than a mile away.
I trained with Rickson on Pico and it was crazy to see Rick in against chuck norris... and other premier fighters
The real reason is that they needed someone w a padded record and to be undefeated. The Gracie marketing is undefeated
Rickson depends on hype. He won some fights but hyped his records without any proof of anything. Training matches don't count. Royce did good till others realized you had to grapple. Then we saw how his skill matched up against MMA fighters. So they created super fights. Then it showed how he wasn't going to win any longer. So he left. Just like in Pride and Sakuraba. One Gracie after another vs someone who understood Grappling. Watch the video's. Gracie wouldn't even fight at one point till the gracies got their way. And Royce still lost.
I heard it was Royce because he was smaller. The first UFC was more a marketing ploy for how effective Gracie jiu jitsu was. Royce goes out and submits everyone and everyone is like wow this Gracie jiu jitsu is awesome
They speak on that at the end of the video. I was told the same thing.
didnt Rickson price himself out?
when they kept calling skinny sakuraba they ran away from the heavy guys like mark kerr, randleman, wanderley silva, belfort and igor vovchanchyn...
rickson is the worst in the family he is the only one that didnt went to take a beating from sakuraba
I never understood why each of the family members didn't have many fights. This explains it. They created the show.
is this the smart one? he knows more about the thing than who made the thing? 🖕🤣🖕
the fact roice wearing a gi in a fight is still unreal for me but it works
they wanted to prove a weaker guy could beat everyone with BJJ
Say what you want but Royce was dirty never been a fan. #dontcareroycesucks
John Mccarthy looked like such a doosh back in the day I'm glad he grew out of that phase
Is that Adam sandler
Because he was the worst of the Gracies at the time, and if he could do it, none of the others would have struggled.
Joe's best shows are one where he has other old school MMA guys and they just talk about MMA the whole time.. such good energy
Nice arm
Like Brendan Schaub.
Joe is just a good ol boy. I like all of his content tbh
I did 2 years of martial arts when the UFC first started and REALLY enjoyed the early UFC tournaments and have rarely watched it since. The weight classes, more rules, etc., made it much less fun to watch.
Yeah but if they didn't add rules it wouldn't have become the huge sport it is today. And we wouldn't get nearly as many entertaining fights. It would just be the heavyweights dominating once they figured out BJJ. Even back then Dan Severn would have mauled Royce if he even had a little training in BJJ. Even without it he dominated the whole fight until he got caught in a triangle choke which he probably didn't even know existed lol
@@MitchJohnson0110 I don't consider it entertaining anymore. Fighters aren't aggressive enough. I watched one entire card last year where the only good fight was the one female match. The male matches always had one guy whose heart wasn't in it or a guy who didn't have comparable skill.
@@SenorJuan2023 You haven't been watching much then because last year alone had some absolute banger , high action, fights that i would much rather watch than 90% of the older fights which were usually two out of shape dudes throwing middle school punches or laying on top of each other. You gonna tell me Holloway vs Kattar wasn't a banger? cmon
War Saku!
Good to see Big John McCarthy.
Damn I thought it was a size thing this whole time but if Big John says it’s BS then that it is. 🤔
Royce was the smallest in the family, to prove their point at the time, they put the little guy in, and won
And they only put him against strikers that had no experience. The times he got out in there with wrestlers he got dominated. Rickson would of gotten exposed by Sakuraba.
Wow i was just thinking who was the better Gracie and i thought was renzo but man i was wrong
Because the first few were rigged and Gracies were allowed advantages that others weren’t. It was to market their product
Ok....how the hell do they get "Hickson" from "Rickson"? I know a little Spanish and J = H sound but not "R", right?!?
They don't speak Spanish in Brazil, they speak Portuguese
Ufc 1 2 and 3 were the best. Sumo wrestlers vs karate experts, gracie vs shamrock. Was interesting
Rogan is a such a twerp.
People praising Rickson, he was nothing compared to Rolls.
I'm betting that 2022 is the year joe rogan finally comes out of the closet. It's the only thing that makes sense for him at this point. No one is buying him as a straight guy any longer and he keeps trying to french kiss the fighters that come onto his podcast.
Fuck you. You want the BBC so bad that you have to project? Sad. Just come out already.
....result, we now have to be forced to be impressed by two roided dudes HAND? fighting or the highly technical FENCE PRESSING? For 5 rounds WTF.
Joyce would have lost to Dan Severn in their fight had Dan been willing to maul him with strikes. If its True Rickson was more dominate top fighter that would have been an interesting fight as Severn was a a wrestler with no bottom game then.
yeah right. Dan lost because he worried for the guy. Like in next event UFC 5 where he grounded and pounded everyone?
@@misterrr7 He learned his lesson. He thought he could out wrestle him which he could technically out "wrestle" but he could not outsubmit him. He chose to change his game to fit his skills.
So ufc 1 was entertaining but I think it was rigged pretend
Royce is better than Rickson, he did what he did because he is the greatest fighter to ever walk the face of the earth. His greatness is self evident. He doesnt need men to go out and make him excuses why he wasnt there, he doesnt even have to go out and make excuses for himself. His visible body of work causes even the feeblest of minds to admit that none before or after him are his equal. He is THE GOAT the one and only GOAT.
Rorion made Rickson sign a non compete agreement that was written in English, which rickson couldnt read at the time, that he legally couldn’t compete in the United States. Which is why Rickson competed in Japan his entire career. It’s been said before in older family interviews.
I respect Rorion for founding the UFC because if it wasn’t for that I would probably have never known about jiu jitsu. With that said he seemed like a real scummy person with stories I’ve heard from other Gracie’s about what he did to his own family members for money.
Really? Were the Gracie’s Brazilian Jews by any chance? I just want to state I by no means meant the aforementioned as a definitive and accurate statement, it was made in a pseudo comedic form of parody and thus does not in any way accurately reflect my own personal views or opinions. Herein see referendum v.2 etc…. (yeesh)
So basically, he screwed his own brother?! That’s horrible 😞
@@SpiceBoy7UK23 that’s why there’s a lot of controversy in the Gracie family. They’re all against each other over copyright and money problems.
If that's true, it's very deceitful and treacherous.
Hickson....not Rickson....You stupid fucks 🤣🖕
Sakuraba smashed them all until he couldnt tho 🤷♂️
No matter all the Grace's are afraid of Marcus Rua the king of the streets & former ufc champion!
The question Joe should have asked Big John next is just how he knew that information was really true? If the Gracie family is sticking to that other narrative, where did the "can't control Rickson" narrative come from that Big John heard it? How does he know for sure that is a fact compared to the other one? Did Rickson actually tell him personally? I didn't see this episode of the podcast, so if that was actually answered, I'd be interested to hear it. Thanks.
Big John is close with pretty much the whole Gracie family so there’s a chance he could’ve heard it from Rickson. Either way I believe what he said
Rickson has a book called breath where he basically confirms this I believe he says that he was not picked as they did not want him becoming to big as he wasn’t easy to control
Royce spent more time on his back than an 80's New York Prostitute. That's not fighting in my book. If you do that in any other environment you're getting furniture piled on top of you.
Bjm don’t kno wut he talking about Rickson is huge I met him in person very respectful man too but very intense at same time. Rickson GOAT