When TikTok users say "I need the full version now!" on an original song, I feel like most of them just want what they heard on loop 🤷🏻‍♀️

@queendiamond770

Жыл бұрын

This! My friend shared with me a popular TikTok cover of Judas by Lady Gaga done on electric guitar and it was really just the main riff on loop for 2 minutes, I was so disappointed

@notproductiveproductions3504

Жыл бұрын

They’d love Seven Nation Army by that logic

@montage.of.heck.

Жыл бұрын

@@notproductiveproductions3504 PLEASE DONT SHOW THAT SONG TO THEM

@Em1_ReN

Жыл бұрын

@@montage.of.heck. they’ve already heard it back in 2021, it was popular all over

@montage.of.heck.

Жыл бұрын

@@Em1_ReN oh, thank god that was 2 years ago

One of the biggest problems is that it ages the music RAPIDLY. It goes from a new born to alzheimers in a week.

@ictogon

Жыл бұрын

out of the ordinary I mean

@ictogon

Жыл бұрын

Alexa where is the cracker barrel

@ictogon

Жыл бұрын

Alexa cracker barrel near me

@ictogon

Жыл бұрын

Alexa where is cracker barrel pennsylcania

@fart63

Жыл бұрын

Bc everybody uses the same audio while it’s still popular and run it into the ground

“Did I just make the song of the summer?” And it’s the most ear piercing traumatizing horrible horrifying terrible painful suffering death worthy AI generated ass sounding thing

@walrusarf9046

2 ай бұрын

OH MY GOD YOU PUT THE FEELING INTO WORDS SO PERFECTLY

@diediedice

2 ай бұрын

Every time I drive with the radio on (why does it take forever to connect your phone when you're late) I literally feel like Stan in that one South Park episode where everything sounds like someone farted and shit into the mic💀💀💀

@chuuchuuutrain

2 ай бұрын

and its always about their ex that we do not give a shit about…

@BrunoTheEpicGamerDog

Ай бұрын

like no bro you didn’t.

@Jungcookedd

Ай бұрын

Literalllyyyy

My dad works as a DJ for a pub, and he's noticed that when people request a song and dance along for TikTok, it's normally only about two minutes long. The person who requested the song dances around with their phone for thirty seconds, then stands around like an NPC because the popular hook part is over.

@clarissalim1602

3 ай бұрын

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@Smol_PC

3 ай бұрын

IPad babies ^

@biazacha

3 ай бұрын

That’s so freaking depressing, no wonder 70s-2000s have such a chokehold on clubs, barely any good song to have a great time popped up since social media went from forum based sites to what we have today. Probably why KPop got so big as well.

@charmbitten6878

3 ай бұрын

this would’ve been so funny to witness 😭😭

@theyouofyesterday6254

3 ай бұрын

Oh man! I remember in the 90s when a dance remix could go on for half an hour and people would still be dancing..!!

The tiktokifocation of music is the equivalent of the Adam Sandler method of writing a movie script. He comes up with ONE good joke or clever line and then writes a movie around it.

@victormirandakoepke8352

Жыл бұрын

I heard he claims that he just finds a nice place to fuck around with his friends and uses making a movie as an excuse for it. NGL, I kinda respect that. Would probably do the same

@jjan3

Жыл бұрын

@@victormirandakoepke8352 we stan Adam Sandler. Especially for his fashion ✨

@Jay_one

Жыл бұрын

@@victormirandakoepke8352 i heard that too. I don’t know why this method can’t be conducive to making better movies, however. Would be nice.

@CosmizEve

Жыл бұрын

Adam Sandler is a chill and humble dude so I still like him regardless

@Jay_one

Жыл бұрын

@@CosmizEve sure… making bad movies doesn’t make you a bad person.

Oh, this reminds me of a video of a Steve Lacy concert where the audience was happily singing along to the TikTok-popular chorus of "Bad Habit" and then went dead silent on the rest of the song

@wowpoopstaylorsversion3267

Жыл бұрын

and when Taylor held The Eras Tour the first day, she got upset after hearing no one say 'Taylor, you'll be fine' [from The Bleachers remix]

@davidnissim589

Жыл бұрын

I saw the video, his heart must’ve sunk into his chest when they went silent

@ANTEIZAKANTE

Жыл бұрын

That monkey shouldn't have acted that way. Ungrateful piece of s

@artistaroundtheblock2047

Жыл бұрын

Then they all started clapping 👏🏽 like the song was over. Imagine clapping half way through a song. 😂

@cat-le1hf

11 ай бұрын

i hope this will teach people that treating live shows like it's karaoke actively makes the experience worse for everyone

I’m so sad that bridges are disappearing bc they’re almost always my favorite parts of songs😭

@r_u_s_t_y__h_o_r_s_e_s-hg4fe

2 ай бұрын

Same, they’re amazing and I don’t know why people are abandoning them 😭

@BookloversPQB4

2 ай бұрын

Exactly, I’m pretty sure that’s the whole point of the bridge

@toastedgrams

Ай бұрын

At least Taylor is still going at it 😭

@r_u_s_t_y__h_o_r_s_e_s-hg4fe

Ай бұрын

@@toastedgrams I love her for that 😭

@maxolivia4911

23 күн бұрын

Taking out bridges is like taking out the down part of rollercoasters. Turning it into 'coasters only.

another problem is that a single line can completely alter the way the song is perceived and the tone. I remember Hozier’s song “Eat Your Young” got really popular for the first couple lines for being a “hot and sexy” song but if you actually listen to it, it has a lot of undertones on how we’re consuming the life from younger generations.

@TheGoop22

3 ай бұрын

To be fair this has happened a lot in the past, "Today" by Smashing Pumpkins, "Rockin' in the Free World" by Neil Young, "The One I Love" by REM, to name a few.

@ravenwolf2220

3 ай бұрын

It's so strange!!! I was wondering why that one especially was getting so much attention (I don't use tik tok) Cause I though Damage Gets Done and honestly, the rest of the album has considerably fewer people listening to it.... its so weird, because that whole album is fucking great!

@eos_aurora

2 ай бұрын

Yeah eat your young reads to me like a gun control critique, not some sexy song

@chuuchuuutrain

2 ай бұрын

@@TheGoop22wait i had no idea today was about that lol i love that song. i watched the music video and always thought i was about not wanting a relationship to end or something.

@menschenskinners.

Ай бұрын

Lmao what do you mean by undertones. The song is literally called "Eat your Young"

its like making music just to be a ringtone in the early 2000s

@LocalTorchwoodIntern

Жыл бұрын

Your comment made me feel old, and I was born in 2001.

@jaamesfn

Жыл бұрын

I miss the days of spending hours creating personalised ringtones. How simple life once was 😅

@minnie_malism

Жыл бұрын

RINGTONE RAP IS COMING BACK 😭😭

@gabdongipark

Жыл бұрын

I did not need to be called old today

@BirdmanDeuce26

Жыл бұрын

I'm surprised Soulja Boy hasn't taken advantage since, lol

I’m so glad it’s not just me noticing the erasure of bridges. The bridges were so noticeable to me because they’d mark a big difference in the song. Now songs feel so much more repetitive.

@polarxlynx2967

9 ай бұрын

I agree! I personally dislike when a song doesn't have a bridge. Some songs can pull it off but I do find new songs just all sound the same and don't have any individuality in their rhythm/lyrics. Having no bridge makes it sound idk worse? I miss the bridges bring that shit back.

@zaraoliviaathletics4934

9 ай бұрын

I agree. I’m so so grateful and happy that my favourite artist of all time, Conan Gray, creates some of the most beautiful and prominent bridges I’ve heard

@SeaKnight_Rory

8 ай бұрын

The bridge is always my favourite bit of the song. Genuinely so sad that people think getting rid of them is a good idea

@zaraoliviaathletics4934

8 ай бұрын

@@SeaKnight_Rory I agree, it creates such a climax AND IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL, I PRAY that they never disappear

@kittyycaat_

8 ай бұрын

I agree, if you like bridges Dis-ease by the Bangtan Boys has a pretty good one.

I think the worst part is going to a concert and watching people only sing along to one song that went viral on TikTok then going silent for the rest of the concert. I'm so passionate about music, so I'm happy that my favorite band is getting more recognition, but it's sad to feel alone in a huge crowd because everyone only knows one song that they heard on TikTok.

@ibegyourmotherfuckinpardon

4 ай бұрын

i remember steve lacy getting canceled(?) one time bc he got mad at his fans not knowing the lyrics of one his song at his concert😭

@KyleCourounis

3 ай бұрын

This is how I feel at Billy Joel concerts in recent years. I usually see him every 4-6 months for the last 8 or 9 years. Ever since Zanzibar went viral on TikTok in 2020, when he started doing shows again in 2021, you see a TON of late teens to twenty-somethings screaming the chorus to Zanzibar and then diddle on their phone the rest of the time. It's utterly agonizing. I've honestly wondered if it's one of the reasons he's ending the MSG residency besides the main reason, which is wanting to free himself from the contractual obligations.

@beepatpen

3 ай бұрын

Bro its crazy how I will bring up a song to kids at my school and they don't recognize the title of what I see as a classic song, I sing the "catchy" part and they go like "oh yeah I think I heard that in a tiktok" and i get so confused because like I am not a boomer. these are my peers???

@orchidposa

3 ай бұрын

unrelated but we have the same pfp!

@yumyumnachobear

3 ай бұрын

Adding injury to that is the fact that those songs going mega viral makes the artist's tickets near impossible to buy only for half the audience to be this disengaged because they haven't bothered listening to anything else

Anything TikTok touches it destroys tbh

@guilhermecruz5194

6 ай бұрын

It depends it really helps when ur bored, but mostly agree

@derangeduck

5 ай бұрын

its better than shorts tho

@FDALl-ms5kg

4 ай бұрын

Bro honestly it sure seems like it. Idk why i am in this video because thanfully ive never downloaded

@shadow19734

3 ай бұрын

Just like Carl Denham. :( rip big guy.

@Dappelvish

12 күн бұрын

so basically TikTok is Killer Queen

At the same time, I love how TikTok can also boost old songs or songs considered "flops"

@TheDreRock

Жыл бұрын

yoooo this is such a cool point I haven’t rly thought abt, tiktok is creating so many sleeper hits or resurfacing old hits now and I wonder if it’s a gradual rejection of the more current, purposely trendy music

@Sergio-nb4hj

Жыл бұрын

This is such an awesome thing about tiktok. I feel like mainstream listeners have finally caught on to the way that more passionate music fans listen to songs... not "what's new" or "what you remember" but whats out there that I missed out on?

@Eibarwoman

Жыл бұрын

The Ankha Zone song was a forgotten song from the 1980s by Sandy Marton.

@caseyt3923

Жыл бұрын

A lot of my favorite songs I found through tik tok!

@Bespeon

Жыл бұрын

Yesss, I love this aspect of it

The fact that Tiktokification is a word I can understand and comprehend is wild, imagine if you said that to someone 5-7 years ago

@mocapcow2933

Жыл бұрын

I feel like -ification can be added to many words and make sense

@notsteve5927

Жыл бұрын

People would probably say “ah, I like that song by Ke$ha too, everyone should make music more like hers”

@Schlagageul

Жыл бұрын

​@@notsteve5927 It was a good song though. I feel like this type of sound is really missing nowadays but I am clearly biased as this was during my childhood.

@RogueAstro85

Жыл бұрын

@@Schlagageul Agreed. I'm not a huge fan of pop music but back when that song came out I was vitriolicly against it because I was a lame teenager. Yet I really loved that song even then and I still jam to it today

@nbabackcourtmedia

Жыл бұрын

@@mocapcow2933 for sure it just sounds extra weird here for some reason

This is exactly what is happening with book publishing as well. I have friends who are trad published who have been told they need to build a strong booktok presence. The companies are saving money by putting the artists marketing directly on the artist.

@beautifulstranger101

3 ай бұрын

Oh hell no

@eileenscat

2 ай бұрын

Honestly, most companies from the art business are getting ridiculous about their requirements to work with you. What good is it to sign a contract with a label, a publisher or whatever, when they want you to do 90% of their job beforehand?

@BookloversPQB4

2 ай бұрын

I see a lot of shorts saying stuff like, “the first line of this book is…” or “trying to get you to read books with r one line” Like, maybe try to get me to read with an actual summary of what it’s about

@l.scales7516

Ай бұрын

I want to mention the factor of series authors, like janet evonovitch ? Sp? With her char. Steph. Plum /swf, unemployed, takes on a bail bondsmans ( a relative, her uncle ) challenge & tada a whole new investigative murder / romance/ funny chick etc. genre is born that could be filled out by a program as long as a car gets totaled & the almost sex or unspecified or non detailed sex action is included & the pet or random animal sequence, somebody needs rescuing , or she does, incurring a debt for a later book to be based on etc. with only a few paragraphs added so they can honestly say ' no the book was not written by a bot ' ! It's so bad it's hard to tell if you've read it before or not! Sue Grafton ( rip ) was never like that! Tyvm! Books should be inspired by actual thought, not prelaid triggers unless the plot lines for future books are outlined & timelined prior to the triggers entry point. For the most part. It is cool when brief moments in books go to spinoffs etc.

Artists who write songs for themselves rather than virality are also gaining stable fanbases, compared to artists who get famous quick on tiktok and then fail to reach that level of success once more - quality will always be a leading factor in who chooses to listen to what.

@ses694

3 ай бұрын

I think popularity of music has less to do with quality and is more random and based in fashion.

@BobTheSnail759

27 күн бұрын

Agreed. The artists that actually deserve recognition for their creativity and good lyrics are still the ones dominating the industry and consistently staying at the top, like Billie Eilish. So, technically, it's not such a huge problem.

I got off tiktok almost 6 months ago and it isn't just music, it's the way people speak, act, and entertain. I'm starting to understand why people hate it so much. It feels like my attention span is so short, I haven't been able to enjoy an album or any long form entertainment since short form content was introduced. Movies become boring, 4 min songs I love become Skippable, I never listen to my favorite albums anymore, shows that aren't structured like Family Guy become increasingly harder to watch as instant gratification is so normalized. It's wild

@mooonblooom

Жыл бұрын

agreed! i havent used tiktok in almost a year, but its still EVERYWHERE and i hate it. it fucked up my attention span even more than it already was! i have to constantly be doing something else while watching something longer than 10 minutes

@MoraMorbid

Жыл бұрын

@moonbloom I had the same issues! I'm just now enjoying laid back things. But entertaining friends or company becomes frustrating with how small our attention spans are. I've tried movies, games, tv, but nothing accept for Funny Tiktok Compilations keeps them occupied. It's like keeping toddlers occupied but they have the ability to up and leave after an hour of social interaction.

@DLN-000

Жыл бұрын

I think youre right that it affects the whole way people act and speak, Ive never had tiktok but everyone except for one other person in my friend group does, and while I cant fully articulate the difference, SOMETHING about me and my one other tiktok free friend vs the others is just. Different. Our humor, our opinions, the way we consume stuff, certain things we are aware of that the others arent and vice versa... Sadly, for someone my age, not having tiktok genuinely puts a bit of a divide between me and my peers (or deepens the one that's already there, maybe)

@MoraMorbid

Жыл бұрын

@BLUES I'm 20 so I understand fully! It's probably the biggest divide. Imagine not even having social media in general. The divide would grow like wildfire for most people. I'm really lucky to have 2 different groups of friends. 1 on socials like Tiktok, or others who only use Facebook and KZread. I speak in full carefully put together sentences but then others speak in references and small lingo like "It's Girly Pop" made 0 sense to me. I just see such a giant divide here and it's scary Edit: I forgot to mention that people on tiktok tend to have really unified opinions. Especially with politics and social issues. You'll see people on tiktok have 1 unified opinion when there are 100 different ways to approach a situation or think about it.

@cybertalkwithdevin

Жыл бұрын

I was walking around and some teenagers were hugging and some other random teens started yelling “W RIZZ W RIZZ”

Meghan Trainor's new song "Mother" is one of the most egregious cases of TikTok Pandering I've seen-

@Funeral_Mannequin

Жыл бұрын

Megan Trainor’s music has kind of always been like that.

@microcolonel

Жыл бұрын

I mean, she's always been pandering to somebody; her biggest success was pandering to the fats.

@arcangel879

Жыл бұрын

First thing that popped on my head. That marketing is toxic.

@beanie2571

Жыл бұрын

that song actually makes me want to remove my brain with a vacuum

@mayorstudland2929

Жыл бұрын

She did Mr. Sandman dirty

i was driving the other day and i had the alternative rock station on. i deadass almost drove off the road because AS IT WAS BY HARRY STYLES came on. can someone please tell me why harry styles is on the ALTERNATIVE ROCK station 😭😭

@Bruh-ob9mi

Ай бұрын

TikTok has watered down genre labels to the point that anything that isn’t 100% pure pop is suddenly alt rock. It’s disgusting and insulting. I cannot stand this cheapening of genre labels!

What I can’t believe is how Bo Burnham predicted this years ago in his Zac Stone show.

@antonrodholm2346

27 күн бұрын

Underrated comment

@ThatGirlWhoDraws1

26 күн бұрын

Bo Burnham is my favourite singer. Don't ask

@i_love_cats_and_stuff

6 күн бұрын

@@ThatGirlWhoDraws1 I LIKE OREOS AND P-

It’s not just in pop music. I play in a country band for a living. We have a new single coming out this summer, and the label put trap drums over this acoustic country song ‘so it’s more danceable on tiktok.’ That’s the entire metric of what gets released now, and it’s a shame.

@asuka_the_void_witch

Жыл бұрын

so like, trap snares on a country tune? XDDDDDDDDDDDD i'm imagining "Maty Noyes - New Friends". in any case i'm definitely interested.

@ciatagni1345

Жыл бұрын

Oh please don't let them ruin your music by over producing it 😭😭

@ChristopherSadlowski

Жыл бұрын

It would be one thing if the BAND, you know the people doing the actual labor, decided to make your country song more danceable. But to have your label chasing a fad that's going to end at some point is insulting. Art is truly rapidly dying and we have finance and tech bros to thank for it.

@bethswiftie

Жыл бұрын

Oooh I'll stream it if u let me know ur band and the name (I'll either presave or put it in my calendar)

@cat-le1hf

Жыл бұрын

honestly that's hilarious

The thing with Old Town Road is that he was a really smart, He pushed it out as a song to accompany memes on tiktok and discord and was able to get ppl interested in the song with small snippets. Than once it was on the charts, he allowed ppl to remix it constantly, because of a remix gets popular it keeps the original in the charts.

@thejusmar

Жыл бұрын

And he released a new version of it just as the old one was dropping off to keep buzz going. A regular video, then a lyroc video, then a country collab, then a hip hop collab. Etc.

@BrookOPW

Жыл бұрын

"He was a really smart" enjoy inploding, in game

@PeakApex

Жыл бұрын

I'm actually a huge fan of Lil Nas X and I absolutely hate that song.

@ReoSmith-ec5lh

11 ай бұрын

@PeakApex literally same

@xant8344

10 ай бұрын

@@PeakApexsame

The screaming over tiktok songs effectively avoids copyright and speaks my intrusive thoughts into the world whenever these mega popular tik tok songs play

I can 100% agree to everything said. Speaking, second handedly from experience, my boyfriend has been writing music for like 6 years now, and not a single one of his songs have popped off the way me and all his family and friends believe they should. It’s pretty tiring already trying to make the songs 100% by himself, occasionally having help from his other musically inclined friends(and I love seeing them collaborate!) but he always is exhausted trying to post his music onto any platform he can, and he’s tried Tik tok. He tried the gimmicky posts, and got no where(though now he hates that he did that lol) and even just tried being genuine and posting asking people to check him out and playing bits of his favorite songs he’s written. He’s still writing music, but man, he deserves so many more people to hear his writing. He’s such a genuine writer, and writes with so much emotion and thought behind each song, even to go to write stories for his upcoming albums. We’re going to try some new ways of reaching new people, like just posting the art. Because his music is art to be art. And all he wants is people to hear his stuff, and I want people to hear his stuff. His art is pure emotion and love put into it. (If anyone wants to hear him, we’d love to have you, KZread and Spotify all under Bunbine❤️💜)

@Ma-nm2fl

5 ай бұрын

Im listening to his songs rn!! I loved dissociate and raining petals, those got deep in me!!

@avuz

3 ай бұрын

Purple poltergeist is an absolute masterpiece!!! He deserves so much more attention omg

@recreatio

2 ай бұрын

holy crap, i wasnt expecting them to be this good omg 😭

@X-3K

2 ай бұрын

he's pretty good

@alice_devil69

Ай бұрын

I'm checking him out right now!! I haven't listened to too many of his songs yet, but from what I heard his music is really good!!! He deserves to have his music heard, I'm wishing him luck with his musical journey🫶

to me, doja cat is the embodiment of a career made by tiktok. her label only took notice to her talent after “moo” went viral. almost every song from her most recent album had a section go viral on tiktok and i dont think it’s necessary intentional (there’s just something abt the way she writes her songs that tiktok just LOVES) but it certainly has amplified her career in an insane way. it’s really interesting to see her as a case study for the newest wave of musicians who are well known for their online personas as well as their art

@sari9645

Жыл бұрын

Yes! Doja cat, and in my opinion, Ashnikko were the first/biggest artists to blow up on tik tok

@yourancientancestor

Жыл бұрын

Same with pinkpantheress in a way

@jesuswasgay

Жыл бұрын

Ohh like ppcocaine or pinkii?

@Anna13Tonks

Жыл бұрын

I don't think you can attribute her success on tik tok, her songs were huge hits on the radio too like old mainstream artists. She did good on tik tok like anyone else did too. I've never been on tik tok and never heard moo

@babycakes84

Жыл бұрын

@@Anna13Tonks moo on the radio?? 😭😭 moo was def uplifted by social media, i’ve never downloaded tiktok but i heard it a million times on other platforms. afterwards her songs were def on the radio a Lot, like “kiss me more” & “say so”

The single worst part about Tiktokification is not the music itself (although there's definitely some stinkers), it's how it seems to have affected song length. ≤2.5Mins is a radio edit, not your full song. There's so many songs out there I really enjoy but then they're over just as I'm getting into it.

@Ultinuc

Жыл бұрын

For me it's not song length it's just that gimmick-ification of song writing.

@SnoFitzroy

Жыл бұрын

Me almost exclusively listening to music under 2m since I was a kid:

@mookai9813

Жыл бұрын

Most songs over 3 minutes either have too many ideas or is the same idea repeated

@al.ex.bey_

Жыл бұрын

​@@mookai9813 wow what a horrible take

@mikaoleander

Жыл бұрын

eh song length isn't an indicator for quality. the reason why pop songs used to be 3-4mins in the first place is because of the 45rpm vinyl record, that's just the amount of time that fits on a record like that. that's how the single was born. there is nothing inherently better about a 3.5min pop song than a 2.5min pop song, they're just different

Seriously its like everything is becoming like fast fashion today. Fashion, books, furniture, social media now even music

What’s crazy is you can see this is deathcore now too, I’m an extreme metal fan and it’s cool seeing this happen there too. Lorna shore made ‘to the hellfire’ and the crazy breakdown went viral on TikTok, and now every deathcore band puts the most ridiculous over the top breakdown in every song

@Bruh-ob9mi

5 ай бұрын

The good news is that Lorna Shore probably know better than to try to replicate To the Hellfire. They’ll do something different rather than chase another viral moment.

@paid14

25 күн бұрын

Erm, sorry, but haven't all these deathcore bands been trying to "one-up" eachother on breakdowns for years?

Meghan Trainor did this and I could tell even before the trend started. It's so obvious what some artists are trying to do.

@maddieburgee

Жыл бұрын

AND I MADE YOU LOOK fr that shit haunts me and i'm not even on tiktok

@LunaWitcherArt

Жыл бұрын

She's doing it again And the fact that it works kills me. Unfortunately all her songs were made for tiktok even before tiktok existed, so props to her I guess, get that bag and whatnot But I'm gonna be checking tiktok with no sound until the new song passes

@wozaow

Жыл бұрын

I can see why so many people consider her an industry plant for that exact reason.

@idontwantahandlethough

Жыл бұрын

I'm convinced Meghan Trainor was created in a test tube in some record label laboratory. I don't know why a record label has a laboratory, but apparently they do! She's just always seemed like such a corporate plant. Or maybe she's a robot? Idk but something weird is goin on I tell ya what

@dottyContrarian

Жыл бұрын

i really thought that song was a pop cover of a rap song when i first heard it.

Watching things like this as an almost 30-year-old who refuses to join TikTok makes me feel like an old man standing outside my farmhouse watching the world change around me in ways I can't fully comprehend EDIT: This is not meant to be a "Change and technology are bad and I'm better than kids these days" type statement. I try to balance my online and offline time for the sake of my mental health, and TikTok seems like it would absolutely wreck that balance for me. Godspeed to everyone who is on it and helps keep people like me from falling completely out of touch

@idontwantahandlethough

Жыл бұрын

eh 🤷‍♂.. I'm just leaning into it lol edit: not tik tok, being out of touch, I mean.

@thatsdisco

Жыл бұрын

same, but instead in my mid-20s. Wild that we both feel that way

@qimori8094

Жыл бұрын

same but I'm a still young teenager. my friends think I'm crazy

@braintole

Жыл бұрын

same, but I haven't even turned 10 yet and I feel the same. my babysitter always says i'm stupid for this

@VreyIsGrey

Жыл бұрын

19 and feel pretty much the exact same way

One of my favorite songs, Mind Over Matter by Young the Giant, which came out in 2014 recently came onto my fyp, and it was the bridge which is absolutely beautiful. And the song has such a beautiful message that lots of people interoperate in different ways. My heart flutters a little bit whenever I see someone use this song on a video.

@randomgalaxyyy

4 ай бұрын

I love Young The Giant! Mind Over Matter is one of my favorites by them too. If you like that one, and haven't heard it already, I reccommend Art Exhibit. Beautiful song!

Fun fact: "Old Town Road" did NOT start on tiktok but on yt Lil Nas X was just messing around on yt and it ended up blowing up and then Billy Ray heard it and asked to do a deal with him.

What kills me is the app that sucks people in and wastes hours of their time is literally called tiktok, like “tiktok your life is passing by”

@mohamedeltahhan

Жыл бұрын

you're right and its ironic. the name probably was referring to the fact that the videos end after a very short time frame, but the reality is that you just feel like " 'what's another minute' *scroll* " till you've watched close to a hundred of them.

@aleonimation

Жыл бұрын

r/im14andthisisdeep moment

@blue1584

Жыл бұрын

@@aleonimation This isn’t reddit

@rdizzy1

Жыл бұрын

If peoples lives were enjoyable to begin with, they would actively choose to do things other than scrolling tiktok for hours. It is because each generations lives are getting worse on average (after the silent generation, largely).

@boopnoodle6947

Жыл бұрын

@@rdizzy1 how is this generation worse than the others? maybe its because we are exposed to more global news and events, but bad things have always happened. The internet is an addicting whirlpool, and it also sucks the joy out of people. How are people's lives not enjoyable in this generation?

I think you can see this trend mirrored in the “ringtone pop/hip hop” trend of the 2000’s. Think 50 cents Candy Shop, artists would create beats and melodies that were easily replicable to be used as ringtones which was HUGELY profitable back then.

@mcgheebentle1958

Жыл бұрын

Ooohhh! Good connection, I didn’t even think about that until you mentioned it. Same levels of market-driven gimmicky-ness.

@ludifoe5039

Жыл бұрын

But the difference is that you mostly could listen to the whole song without getting ear cancer and cringing hard

@hialyssah

Жыл бұрын

i definitely lived through this and i forgot all about it. you're so right.

@lucayaki

10 ай бұрын

​​​@@ludifoe5039 I'm sorry, are you saying the trend that put Laffy Taffy into the world is not cringy? "They call me jolly rancher 'cause I stay so hard" is not gimmicky enough?

@ludifoe5039

10 ай бұрын

@@lucayaki „mostly“

I miss bridges and i also miss when songs were generally 4-6 minutes long. Now a lot if music hits 2-3 minutes. I hope we can have a resurgence of the longer music with bridges and guitar/bass solos

0:19 ooh wah ah ah

@MadisonBrennonMel

5 күн бұрын

its OH AHA AH AH AHH

Another problem with TikTok and music is how a lot of users don't actually listen to the songs they're using. It can be funny sometimes though. For example, Parents by Yungblood got really popular amongst intolerant people for the line "I was born in a messed up century", but if you listen to the FULL song, its actually talking about how bad it is that people are intolerant and insensitive. Its interesting, but not as funny when you actually realize people can completely change the intentions of a song by omitting lyrics or not listening to the full song.

@anonymouscausewhynot

10 ай бұрын

Yes! One example of this that’s infuriating was when “All You Wanna Do” from Six the Musical had a trend in which people compared their exes to their current partner. The song is about Katherine Howard, a young woman who was sexually abused as a child, and was taken advantage of as her family’s political pawn, being married off to Henry the Eight.

@cryptid-king

9 ай бұрын

That song literally being about him killing his homophobic dad is the funniest part lmao

@supotter377

9 ай бұрын

I love seeing young teenagers lip syncing to ICP songs having no clue what they mean and just liking the “hardcore”sound lmfao

@ambrosesky

9 ай бұрын

and how the next line is literally about his favorite DRUG!!! AN ADDICTIVE DRUGGG!!!! AMPHETAMINES!!!!!!!!!!!!! "a synthetic, addictive, mood-altering drug, used illegally as a stimulant and legally as a prescription drug to treat children with ADD and adults with narcolepsy."

@thatoneguy9582

9 ай бұрын

@@supotter377 i know exactly two icp songs one is about necrophilia and the other i don’t know the meaning of but it’s called my axe so i have a pretty good guess how do you fuck that up

I don't use tiktok (deleted it last year) but it's so obvious when a mainstream artist writes a lyric in hopes that it'll become a tiktok trend. I liked anti-hero but when I heard the "it's me, hi" lyric I immediately thought "oh the tiktok girlies will love this one", and then I saw that TS herself was doing paid ads in my shorts feed trying to promote it as a trend. I cringed so hard, like it would totally have happened naturally but it's clear that everything in marketing is about tiktok now (which makes sense since that's where the biggest section of Internet users is, but I find it really irritating lol)

@byyrd806

Жыл бұрын

I thought the exact same thing! Interestingly, in a review of her new album, a critic said "there are no radio hits in here, and that makes it not a great album." But like, there's not supposed to be **radio** hits on the album, because this generation doesn't really listen to the radio. There are, however, meant to be several TikTok hits on the album, and for people who use TikTok, it's pretty clear which ones those are. On one hand I feel like that shows an understanding of who the audience is and where they get their music, but it's also a fundamental *misunderstanding* of how the audience interacts with music. If it's a song that works for a trend, the people will make it happen eventually (albeit maybe not at a time that's convenient for awards season). But if the people are told "go do our marketing for us and make this a trend!" it's going to feel cringe, inauthentic, and out of touch. And when lyrics are written with the underlying vibe of "you're gonna make this a trend, right? C'mon, you know you wanna" it cheapens the songs themselves, because it feels like they're marketing gimmicks rather than actual art. Love TS, but definitely wish she had let the trends happen organically rather than manufacturing them!!

@leikfroakies

Жыл бұрын

TS gets a pass for this on account of that song being absolutely gut wrenching. It just works

@taylorswiftismother131

Жыл бұрын

But i really don't think that taylor would do it for tiktok though , like if she wanted to she would have never created folklore or evermore

@saltbending9701

Жыл бұрын

​@@byyrd806 ... tiktok definitely existed when folklore and evermore were created in 2020. they were just simply not pop albums, not meant to have chart-toppers

@PaladinTechhi

Жыл бұрын

Me too! Deleting TikTok was the best decision I ever made lmao

This is why I'm stuck in rewatching AMVS from 2014🤷🏻‍♀️

I’m so glad someone is finally talking about it. Especially as someone who studied music and music theory for a long time, the entire structure of a song has changed. Every song is the length of what used to be an interlude, it’s very interesting to watch music change before my eyes. Everything that I learned while growing up in music school has changed.

I recently quit the app and one of the things I hated about it is when they speed up the songs. I remember hearing the sped up version of Sweater Weather and when I listened to it at normal speed, it was actually much better. You can’t savor the feeling that the music gives you when you listen to it if it’s going faster than summer break

@seesikopter

Жыл бұрын

I hate those sped up songs, my sister is the typical TikTok mid teens type of TikTok user and there are so many sped up songs blasting from her speakers…

@noelsdrawings1547

Жыл бұрын

@@seesikopter lol I feel sorry for you. I’d perish if I had to listen to another one of those sped up songs

@randomperson8304

Жыл бұрын

Yeah idk why ppl like them

@thiswillnotdo6027

Жыл бұрын

seriously i dont understand it. could it be again with the whole shortened attention span thing??

@cassualtea2040

Жыл бұрын

its just nightcore again.

That TikTok from Halsey where she's talking about her label refusing to let her release her own song is so depressing. Why does her label think she needs to specifically market it through TikTok virality??? She's HALSEY. People will listen to the song, let her do what she wants EDIT: Just so you guys know, whether or not you like her music doesn't change that she's popular, nor the points I'm trying to make. I have barely listened to her music myself, but I'm still able to acknowledge the fact that she's popular, and that her music will do well regardless of it's TikTok-ness or my personal opinions (or yours!). The fact remains that labels stopping artists from releasing their own works over something like that is dumb.

@JeffS96

Жыл бұрын

This is the mindblowing thing about the music industry. We all assume that once you get to a certain point you get to call the shots. But then you realize most huge artists start their own label as soon as they can and I wonder if there might be a connection here.

@loganb.1984

Жыл бұрын

I forgot about so many of these classics TikTok songs

@bethswiftie

Жыл бұрын

Fr. I will LISTEN to ANYTHING they put out. I've even listened to him & I and I don't really like it, just because Halsey's in it

@JeffS96

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes. "I don't like this artist's work. I hope they die."

@alexreid1173

Жыл бұрын

@@Frutebrute69 Umm, do you mean pass as in not be as popular, or are you actually wishing death on this person??

thank you for making a video on this!!! i've been thinking about this for a while and decided to write my final paper on this cultural phenomenon, and i am using this video as a source. i love your channel/work, you really put thought behind what you're talking about and i appreciate it :)

9:55 no I've definitely noticed this same trend especially with songs that come from TikTok dominant artists. It feels like the chorus is the only interesting part to listen to sometimes and the verses/bridge if present are almost just filler until we get back to the chorus, they don't add any depth or story or feeling to the song. I tend to stay away from Tiktok music for this reason since the whole 3 minute song ends up being pretty boring aside from a catchy chorus.

As someone who loves pop punk, the recent "revival" we're seeing is depressing. Part of what made the first wave of pop punk so unique was that every band had a unique sound and style, whether in the instrumentals, their vocalists' voices, their lyrics, etc. Right now, every male pop punk singer sounds like MGK, every female singer sounds like Olivia Rodrigo, and both are writing those "pseudo-clever" lyrics that really aren't that deep.

@jumies4056

Жыл бұрын

honestly the problem with the "pop punk revival" is that so much of it... just isn't pop punk or doesn't feel like it. nothing wrong with that kind of music (mostly) but it's being treated as revolutionary when it's not

@Candle_Lights06

Жыл бұрын

can you give me some songs you like? pop punk sounds interesting and since your saying that the new songs sound all the same i dont really try spotify playlists lol

@itskiyawhitaker9222

Жыл бұрын

@@Candle_Lights06 i've really enjoyed willow's albulm Coping Mechanisms. it's got the pop punk style and lyrics with substance imo

@TheVirusinjection

Жыл бұрын

@@Candle_Lights06 Early Blink 182, Bad Religion, Millencolin, Cauterizeare basically my go to pop punk bands but there are others that are good as well

@DaddyRatchet23

Жыл бұрын

The entire emo revival is a bit superficial and frustrating. The culture is so controlled by TikTok and nostalgia, suddenly we've got the Emo's not Dead cruise, furnace fest, when we were young, and now MCR is back, MGK gets way too much attention, Fall out Boy is through with their decade long pop-band break I guess (idk their single was more like their old stuff). Definitely feels like these mega punk bands will be doing a super bowl show in the near future if the fad isn't already dead again by then. Every punk and emo band to exist is finding it is profitable enough to do a reunion or get back together, which is partly exciting and good for them for sure. But the entire scene is something entirely different from what it used to be. It used to be unique, pretty counter culture, these artists made music because of how they felt or how it made them feel. Now it feels like it's all in our faces because it's profitable and popular. Or maybe I'm just old now and this is exactly the sort of things my parents said about the rock music I grew up with.

As a long time Kpop stan, it's sad to see labels being pressured to produce tiktok/viral-friendly music in these past 2-3 years like it's so cringe and a lot of groups lost their styles because of this pressure :////

@marziepan_

Жыл бұрын

yes also choreography specially made to be a tik tok challenge, Sunmi(solosit)said it herself that when she released heartburn the choreo was simple because her agency said so. And it makes me so heartbroken because you clearly see that many of these artists really want to put out cool music but their agency blocks them. Fortunately there are still a few groups, even popular ones(for example ateez)that don't conform their songs or choreo for the sake of tik tok :)

@mama-wh3dv

11 ай бұрын

I agree with this so much

@abh1kxa

11 ай бұрын

And now everyone has started doing those challenges that it's starting to get boring at this point, I am happy they are interacting but it's just way too much at this point. Also the lyrics are all so repetitive

@beenishbaig3316

11 ай бұрын

@@abh1kxa that reminds me of cupid (its a good song but now it makes me cringe bc of everyone doing the challenge)

@kalkxx

11 ай бұрын

even as a newer kpop stan (i got into it at the beginning of the year so its been over six months but still compared to other fans thats very new lol) i recognized this pretty quickly and it makes me sad tbh. wish companies would just let their groups make music that they enjoy and think is good, not worrying about whether it’ll “go viral on tiktok” or something like that. sadly it isnt any of the actual groups’ decisions, they just listen to what their label tells them to do (which makes sense ofc). im happy that most of the groups i like havent done this tho, like another reply mentioned a good example would be ateez :)

i've also noticed this weird dumbing-down of the language used in these viral songs. like instead of actually describing the artist's experience with, say, depression, the lyrics will literally just be something like "i'm always sad and i cry a lot, oh i feel so bad" and it all comes across as really.. juvenile? like it was written for a children's show. and in many cases it also comes across as disingenuous, like the artist doesn't actually know what the experience they are talking about is like but are still trying to capitalize on it.

I remember the spotification made songs starting with the chorus common and watching the tiktokification taking away my bridges AND making verses and pre chorus so so SO short hurts my soul. deeply.

I haven't used TikTok since 2019. Stay strong, my boys, girls and non-binary people. I live under a giant rock.

@LordDomielOfElysium

Жыл бұрын

Im gen Z and i haven’t had tiktok since it was musically, I get it. ✊🏻

@cat-le1hf

Жыл бұрын

@@LordDomielOfElysium there is hope for the future,,,,,

@bearza_

Жыл бұрын

i envy you

@majecore

Жыл бұрын

don't worry, I don't even have a tiktok account 😂

@renoirrr

Жыл бұрын

gen z here again. Cant be bothered to download tik tok after i watched some guy overdose on camera (likely not lethal but it still made my stomach turn) and i deleted it. i think it was back in 2020 and esp after i turned it off i realized i’d just been sitting there for 4 hours like a zombie, staring at my phone and it only felt like half an hour. It hurts me seeing my sister zone out while we’re watching a movie bc her attention span went to shit. Also i havent yet finished the video so idk if she mentioned this but have yall noticed songs used to be like just over 3 mins in the 2000s, then the 2010s extended to closer to 4 mins and now most released these days suddenly reduced to under 3? My only suspicion is tik tok just bc how it favours this short form content.

I would literally die to hear a new song that sounds like a 2010s pop song again. Lady gaga, katey perry, flo rida, pit bull, kesha, p!nk, jason derulo, ellie goulding, rihanna, kelly clarkson made so many good hits and i want them back

@dsnodgrass4843

Жыл бұрын

Look up Rina Sawayama. She's got you covered.

@gagastardust

Жыл бұрын

@@dsnodgrass4843so true. i love rina 💕💕💕

@gm.8805

Жыл бұрын

listen to raye’s new album. she’s a great example of tiktok actually making talented ppl famous.

@mariahgray7475

Жыл бұрын

kesha still makes music!! her past 2 albums have been amazing, def different from her older stuff but still amazing :D

@BurntSushi.

Жыл бұрын

I had a bias against them when I was younger and wouldn't listen to them- I still don't listen to pop that much, but if I could hear them on the radio again instead of the BS on there right now, I would cry.

1:56 is when the promo ends 🩷🩷

@Froggycolouring

9 ай бұрын

Ty :)

@Daughter_of_Hades.

3 ай бұрын

Tysm 😌🙏🏾😃

@Theofania_

Ай бұрын

Im in love with you /j

All of this reminds me of a video by Outside Xtra (I think) where they were talking about nostalgic video game tracks, and one of them brought up the Hyrule Field track from Twilight Princess. Their favorite part was the short orchestral bit in the middle (if you've heard it you know the part) and he said something along the lines of "If the whole song was that 15 second exciting bit, then it wouldn't be as powerful."

As a musician, I think the removal of bridges is actually a bad thing. The bridge is very important for building tension and building up to the ending. It's where the most emotion is. Without it, the song feels bland.

@zoefoley6818

3 ай бұрын

at least Taylor Swift still has bridges in her songs

@marcwilliams9824

3 ай бұрын

Everything is autotuned to death too. Nothing has any soul any more.

I miss bridges so much.. I NEED songs to have a story that I can shape a mental OC around lmao, I’m still holding onto my 4-5 minute songs. 💕

@caoimhem

Жыл бұрын

i noticed this when listening to the radio these last few years 💔

@MissRedZelda

Жыл бұрын

Taylor Swift is still rocking the bridges, thank god.

@cassualtea2040

Жыл бұрын

I Don't Know How But They Found Me is my favorite band for my lil evil ocs Allie X is my favorite for developing backstory, I'm not well versed enough in music to understand why shes just so good for it. MARINA is also good but more like big story developments.

@ciciamanda.

Жыл бұрын

absolutely agree. Especially when they, instead, repeat the chorus 2/3 times at the end. That can be fine if you mix up the choruses a little and make them different from each other - but in so many newer songs its just the same chorus. Over and over again.

@kornfan45

Жыл бұрын

OMG I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ME

just found your channel today and i absolutely love your takes on whatever you talk about. thank you for the work you put into these videos!

I just started watching your videos and i think you’re awersome. i love that you talk about things no one else talk about.

I heard that the live action remake of Disney's Hercules is going to be based on TikTok music, and needless to say, I am scared.

@dudemp4

Жыл бұрын

Im concerned about more movies ending up like that in in the future

@theworldbreaker

Жыл бұрын

no fucking way this is real... please tell me you're joking

@totallynotrennie

Жыл бұрын

you're lying, right?

@ssnekky

Жыл бұрын

Wha-where did you hear this?

@maximum7790

Жыл бұрын

what a terrible pitch for a movie

Hey Gabi Balls, I think it's also worth Pointing out that music is not only getting shorter and being structured without a bridge, but music is also going back to how it was structured and timed almost 100 years ago. When jazz and country western music was popular in America the length had to be short and the structure almost never had a bridge. This was essential if you wanted your song to hit the radio and trend. Lil Nas X was actually aware of this when he wrote "Old Town Road". His song was structured just like an old western tune. Because of this and because of the popularity of the song, people are actually and inadvertently started using techniques in music we haven't seen used in the mainstream in years. P.S. Love the shirt!

@samiraansari5686

Жыл бұрын

Really interesting addition! Thank you!

@aesthetix3398

Жыл бұрын

GABI BALLS 😂😂

@taezer3687

Жыл бұрын

hey Gabi Balls

@pinkybunny

Жыл бұрын

Sorry. Gabi BALLS? 🤣

@shreayyy9473

Жыл бұрын

This is why we stan the queen of bridges Taylor swift Edit: might have comprehended the comment wrong

Thanks for mentioning the fact that songs were getting shorter before even the internet. The radio and sometimes an early record player were often the only sources of electronic entertainment a family had. You were meant to sit and experience the music in full and nothing else. Like politely listening to a talented orchestra. That was music. Now it's nearly unheard of for us to listen to music without also doing something else.

Ke$ha: *Exists* KZread: Would you like to buy tiktok?

I happened to hear the song that’s like “Victoria’s Secret lied to me” on the radio whilst in an Uber back in November and was genuinely shocked at how gimmicky it felt. My friends proceeded to inform me this song had been popular for months (it was the first time I was hearing it), I had to sit back and try to verbalize what I disliked so much about it. You saying the gimmick thing gives a name to it, but it really is just the tip of the iceberg. Similar to the “I hate Disney” one, the deeper you go into the verses the more perplexed you are and it does follow that format of repeating the chorus an almost ridiculous amount bc there’s so little else to the song. I don’t want to just blindly dunk on stuff, but it all feels very corporate

@pieflower6419

Жыл бұрын

The sentiments, I 100% agree with. The first few listens it made me feel heard and validated, but after that I saw how embarrassingly simple and shallow the songs were, even when discussing a deeper topic.

@elianaslivia4405

Жыл бұрын

I had the same experience listening to the “Cinderella is a CEO”. The artist removed what made the characters the characters-removed Tianas passion for cooking and made her a biomed student. It cheapens everything. The sentiment I understand, but the execution was gimmicky, like it was being sold to me

@kiapet286

Жыл бұрын

The funny thing is, the Victoria's Secret song is an example for me of a TikTok song that feels like it came from a place of genuine passion on the part of the artist, since in the lyrics she talks about her previous struggles with body image and eating disorders. It's definitely gimmicky but at least it felt earnest in that gimmick, like it was intended to say something rather than just be repeated for the sake of it

@Ollie_nel

11 ай бұрын

​@@elianaslivia4405yeah when I heard that song I was kind of annoyed about that part too.

@dharanishakthivel7263

11 ай бұрын

It felt like it was written in collaboration with Victoria Secret, and the ad deal much immediately after release really threw me off it.

They don't write songs for radio, they write them for tik tok dances and edits... and I think that says a lot.

@kkhook3

Жыл бұрын

yeah, it says that (for some demographics) tiktok is more popular than the radio.

@Funeral_Mannequin

Жыл бұрын

Which is fine as long it isn’t supposed to be serious or end up on the radio.

@fellowhuman7085

10 ай бұрын

Radio is dead 😭

She is so spot on with this whole video. I'm in instrumental music , where you would expect this to happen less often , but even here you hear traditionally classical musicians trying to simplify each song , so to be easily digestible by the algorithm. I always remember that one story about "Hotel California" where some music producer told the Eagles nobody would ever listen to a 6 minute pop song. But they loved their creation and released it in its entirety

I’m so glad that this is being talked about. Music back in like 2005 and even a few years after that time was really good, but now it feels so unfinished and kind of dry, like the lyrics aren’t hitting like they used to. It just feels like I’m either listening to the same type of song with the same message over and over again by a variety of other artists (sort of recycling a concept but trying to interpret it as their own thing/experience as well?), or its a song that is sampling off of another song but it just doesn’t sound right yk? (Recycling another person’s beat/chorus line into their own music) there are good sample-used songs, example like Tom’s Diner and Centuries share the same sample, both are awesome songs in their own right, and use the sample perfectly imo because they don’t use that one line in the chorus as a crutch, the rest of the song is actually good, it has a story as I like to think of it and good to play just for the vibe. Anyways, music be lackin, but there are some good songs I listened to that were from TikTok and released on Spotify recently, so they aren’t all bad.

I think a good is example of "gimmicky" writing without feeling dumbed down is the "Crybaby" and "K-12" albums of Melanie Martinez. One part of this is just that her songs are about more serious things, but it's also that she uses extended metaphors. When she compares her body to cake, she doesn't just do it for a line and then move on. The whole song is her describing how someone used her body for quick calories and then left. She has a reason she picked this particular comparison for a reason, abd lets it guide her songwriting process from there. (I'm a writer; it's my job to over-analyze ❤)

@joshraid1550

Жыл бұрын

I really wanted mad at disney to keep going as it explored the experiences of a girl becoming a woman and realizing the more complicated realities of a relationship, and feeling lied to by childhood fantasies. That’s an amazing concept that is just so heavily wasted here.

@andfriends

Жыл бұрын

@@joshraid1550 exactly!!!

@scrubbingbubbies

Жыл бұрын

theres a difference between album concepts and gimmicks and i wish more people would do concept albums theyre so good please tell me a story or follow a theme

@carot2592

Жыл бұрын

I've noticed her songs, as a fan who appreciates their deeper meaning, get popular on tiktok

@ILikeHelluvaBossLolz

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

one thing that kills me is seeing an "indie" artist promote their stuff, talking about how they've been making music forever and really want to make it in the industry, then you look into them and they're signed by UMG lmao

@dreamsi

Жыл бұрын

you can be registered with UMG, Sony etc without being signed to a label or having any funding behind you! I’m registered with Sony and have a publishing license with them but I don’t receive any other help from Sony or any money so independent artists being registered with Ascap, UMG etc doesn’t mean they aren’t independent or fighting to make a living from music

@boyfriend-online

Жыл бұрын

@@dreamsi oh interesting! thanks for bringin this up

@plant9681

Жыл бұрын

check out beabadoobee! she’s signed to an independent London label called dirty hit :)

@archiedorky

Жыл бұрын

oh the infamous industry plant

@sofypi7493

Жыл бұрын

The girl is signed by the 1975 indipendente artist my ass

A b c d e f g.. gummy bears are chasing me… one is red, one is blue, one is peeing on my shoe and now I’m running for my life bc the red one has a knife 😃

Stumbled onto your channel by the grace of KZread's algorithm, will stick around due to the hilarious way you avoid copyright and somehow still manage to show a clip of songs, most content creators would just avoid showing it all together, kudos for that. Love your humour.

I'm SO glad you showed the clip of Halsey being mad about her label wanting her to make tiktoks for So Good!!! I know a lot of people didn't believe her about it at the time, but even after the song came out and she was touring she would talk about it before she played it at shows and you could definitely tell she was still kinda mad about the whole thing. it's sad to me that established and successful artists like her are seemingly being made to try to manufacture a viral moment when they really don't need to

@sora1498

Жыл бұрын

i can imagine its a slap in the face too, like i cant imagine it feels good being forced to stoop to such a low that u DONT agree with.

@ardens1022

Жыл бұрын

Okay so this makes me sad, but now 2 months later she's left her label and is working on H5! I hope she finds a better label and/or starts her own

@littlelou050

10 ай бұрын

here's the thing. labels are company's. they work for money. they want success. their job is to keep up with what's relevant and promote as well as possible. i understand that there's a side to it that forces artists into a box. but it still benefits them in many ways. like im sure halsey complaining ON TIKTOK helped in pushing her song. because even that was still her marketing herself to others.

@reiniar

9 ай бұрын

and the irony is that her complaining about her label WAS her viral moment. you just cant escape these things as an artist

@parkchimmin7913

8 ай бұрын

I don’t get why well known, all ready established artists have to promote their songs on tiktok.

That shirt is money. A completely fire look overall.

@ssnekky

Жыл бұрын

This made me giggle lmao

@whatifschrodingersboxwasacofin

Жыл бұрын

Stilwheytin Formor

@bhutwheyttherismor86

Жыл бұрын

@@whatifschrodingersboxwasacofin Gg

@emmaj8337

Жыл бұрын

@@whatifschrodingersboxwasacofin the way i clicked “translate to english” 💀

12:08 you hit the nail on the head here. I've not come across a lot of "Tiktok" music thanks to my autism and my taste being specifically niche, but a lot of popular music I hear these days sounds like "commercial music". As in not music that is commercial, but music meant for commercials. They sound like bad ad jingles meant to be forgotten as soon as the ad is taken off the air.

@assassin8636

7 ай бұрын

It's not really commercial music 😒

@assassin8636

7 ай бұрын

I'm not talking the video

@rohitchaoji

7 ай бұрын

@@assassin8636 I don't know, I can barely differentiate between popular songs these days and a hip new product's ad jingle, which were anyway meant to be 15 second music snippets with a hook or two and maybe a sound byte.

@ACXXRTIO

7 ай бұрын

​@@assassin8636it is literally commercial music with a "people can relate to this" gotcha moment. the music you hear lately is just about shitty exes, it's as repetitive as youtube ads and comments like yours.

@cheesycheese8451

Ай бұрын

Me and my sister were in the car once and we heard what we thought was a new, catchy song come on the radio, and we were so excited to hear something new that might not be completely awful. It was a Febreeze ad.

I totally agree, this is definitely the same for ''mama's boy'' and many other songs that have that one part go viral, on tiktok. The whole song is so watered down while there's just only one good part that people will actually enjoy.

Remember when MTV first came out and everyone was all "aw man, now ugly people can't make music and be successful" and now it's "aw man, now only the most artificially enhanced, meme driven, lucky individuals who make their song pander to an audience with no attention span or cultural staying power"

@zahra9890

Жыл бұрын

wait I just realized that MTV and other channels were the only way to see videoclips to songs wtf. in my head MTV was always an addition for if you wanted to see artists perform live or as background music but when a new song released that was actually the only way to see the videoclip?! I feel very gen z

@MJsPepsihair

Жыл бұрын

​@@zahra9890VH1 was my go to. There was much more variety on the VH1 channels

@aeoligarlic4024

Жыл бұрын

But music videos are fun and not all singers are goodlooking. They're still out there despite not being britney spears-level hot

@chiefmonrovia6691

Жыл бұрын

@@aeoligarlic4024 you take a deep long look at Mungo Jerry and you tell me honestly that music isn't about video appearance these days

@GANONdork123

Жыл бұрын

​@@chiefmonrovia6691 I mean Ed Sheeran looks like a potato and his songs are played constantly in every retail store in the US.

I've have been saying that bridges were truly the best parts of songs and its one of the reasons I really like kpop because they're gonna give you a bridge and it's gonna hit just about every time

@user-oq3vn1ni3b

Жыл бұрын

same

@SumRndmPenguin

Жыл бұрын

I didn't know what a bridge was before this video and I have to agree with this (70% of the time) Edit: tho bridges are pretty important for making the final chorus feel special

@StefanyDjuba

Жыл бұрын

alt rock and kpop really do be slaying those bridges

@bex9158

Жыл бұрын

the reason why cry for me by twice is on repeat in my brain bc that bridge is amazing

@fwizzybee42

Жыл бұрын

Came down here to say basically this. A strong bridge just hits so good and can really make a song emotionally.

I like that it helps get music out there and it really is wonderful how I’ve found some amazing musicians. Though on the other hand there are so many bad things about it as well like how people remember nothing but the short part everyone repeats on each tiktok.

Can’t believe you mentioned the key of awesome! I remember when they were huge, you just earned a subscriber!!

Tiktok actually has way more problems than producing cringe songs, most viral trends are problematic, overall it just gives me such a bad experience scrolling through it

@sumedhgarimella6024

Жыл бұрын

They also cover up genocides in China! I've seen TikToks mentioning the Uyghur genocide in China get censored by ByteDance themselves, and TikToks BY UYGHUR PEOPLE THEMSELVES where they're crying and only 5 emojis are on the screen. You know what those are? Emojis to represent concentration camps, family members being taken away, and even deaths. Those emojis are to avoid censors or responses by the government. I'm a musician, and I refuse to ever touch that app. (Granted Instagram and Facebook/Meta have also abetted genocides in other parts of the world too)

@j01sonofsleazy

11 ай бұрын

like being a spyware and a pedo haven

@popcelebritiy

7 ай бұрын

Don't feel about from tiktok but because of it, music industry is now in the mess place. It feels like it was totally ruin.

@ringsystemmusic

6 ай бұрын

@@popcelebritiyoh boy OH BOY buddy you don’t know how bad the music industry is right now Streaming fucked it six ways from Sunday, but pays artists nothing.

@popcelebritiy

5 ай бұрын

@@ringsystemmusic that can be totally fucked up

As an independent musician, I hate that the only way I can promote my work is by reducing it to short form content. When I make a song 2-3 minutes long, I actually want people to hear the whole thing, not just 15s. The ability to self-produce, promote, and distribute all from a bedroom/through a phone has made music WAY more accessible which is great! But it sucks that pandering to social media is now just as important as the quality of a song if you want it to get heard.

@CrappyMusicYT

10 ай бұрын

I make songs 10 minutes long

@composerjalen

9 ай бұрын

​@@CrappyMusicYTbased, I'm gonna write an hour long symphony

@CrappyMusicYT

9 ай бұрын

@@composerjalen I'm gonna write a millienia symphony

@paddenstoel95

6 ай бұрын

Well it's great but it floods the market. Usually when markets get flooded the quality stuff doesn't rise to the top. The music industry sucks but at least at one time the set a quality threshold. Now nobody cares, if it makes money it's good, it's sad tbh.

@illicitveniceb

4 ай бұрын

couldn't have said it any better. i don't want to be one of those tiktok one hit wonders with cheesy lyrics because they only put thought into one line

also pop definitely doesn’t have to be so face value, a perfect example is Semi Charmed Life by Third Eye Blind, beneath all of it happy go luckily glimmer is a story about a bad relationship, and compensate for said relationship with a crippling meth addiction, it appeals to a larger audience and digs into its targeted demographic at the same time. a true masterpiece imo

I've not been watching for that long, but I wanted to to say that this video is a banger. The balance of humour and discussion is great. Algorithms are a neutral thing in theory, but the way the algorithms of these platforms defines what we see on social media and the way we access art and information is genuinely scary. I used to watch a bunch of political streamers and the way the algorithm and the way it encourages people to act lead to more drama in the periphery, so more drama being covered, leading to person covering drama being involved in drama. Rinse and repeat. I don't begrudge people doing what they need to survive in this hellscape, but it's depressing to see a whole internet space degrade so quickly and people doing things they don't care about to get by. It's funny, there's an older generation thing about these platforms ruining art or whatever, but the incredible things people can do with accessible way to showcase their creativity, while the algorithm and the people using said algorithm to make these platforms as profitable as possible in the shortest time that are stifling creativity.

My 13 year old sister loves those gimmicky songs, which is another fascinating layer to look through this. They’re marketing towards kids/young teenagers bc if they’re successful, they could potentially create a fan base that will last for years. Idk there’s just something kind of yucky about it. Especially when you’ve got lyrics like “twinkle twinkle little bitch”. But at the same time, I would have ate up those “twisted nursery rhymes” when I was that age too (and I did. The Barney song anyone??)

@texaspoontappa2088

Жыл бұрын

I used to love Melanie Martinez's music when I was 13 because of those twists so I definitely see your point

@sofivuk2119

Жыл бұрын

I hate you, you hate me, let's go out and kill Barney! With a baseball bat and a 4x4, NO MORE PURPLE DINOSAUR! 🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶 (also i think theres more, but i cant remember)

@kawaiiwolf4724

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it kind of reminds me of the bob the builder song everyone used to sing at age 7 Bob the builder can he fix it? Bob the builder NO HE CAN'T!

@wowpoopstaylorsversion3267

Жыл бұрын

@@kawaiiwolf4724 now that you mentioned Bob the Builder, I thought of that lyric from Build a bitch 'Bob the Builder broke my heart, told me I need fixing. Said that I'm just knots and bolts, lot of parts were missing'

@yourgreatestfuckingnightmare

Жыл бұрын

i hate u u hate me lets team up and kill barney with a one shot two shot three shot four no more purple dinosaur OR i hate u u hate me lets team up and kill barney with a great big gun and you shoot him in the head purple dino is now dead

I have been desapointed so many times because I hear a song in tiktok, I love it, and when I look for the full version of it I discover there is nothing more, just the corus over and over again and random lines in between.

@Peppermint_Oof

10 ай бұрын

Like cupid and death bed

@YourJapanic

8 ай бұрын

I was so excited to listen to The End by lil uzi ft babymetal but it’s literally just the same 2 lines repeated

@frostmint3584

6 ай бұрын

​@@Peppermint_Oofdeath bed by powfu?

@maze_of_memories

5 ай бұрын

​@Peppermint_Oof cupid isnt tho, cupid is a whole different problem since everyone hates the genre it is yk

@Ludzig

5 ай бұрын

Spell better

One thing I also dislike due to the TikTokification of music is the fact how people nowadays tend to sing like. Everything has to be cute, mumbled and edgy. I have difficulties knowing which artist is which because they all sound the same to me, mainly because of two things, the modern production and the singing style promoted by TikTok. I mean, the girl from the PS5 song is the best example. It just sounds so typical for the current era and I really really hate it. It destroys everything. My bf is a vocal coach and he was talking to his collegues the other day. They all were so frustrated because their students are literally learning wrong techniques because they wanna sound like TikTok singers, resulting in an unnatural and HARMFUL way to sing, which is incredibly hard to get rid of again. There is so much singing potential locked behind this current sound ideal, which is just frustrating. 90% of the songs would sound so much better to me, if people would sing PROPERLY.

@lucienzothesmallerone

Ай бұрын

YES!!! As a second-language English speaker I hate hearing those mumbled things, I literally don't know what they're saying and everything feels the same. They're all just clones of each other, mumbling stuff about depression and breakup and whatever... I listen to metal so, naturally, there isn't stuff like this in my favs, but I just can't understand how someone could like a song that sounds like the singer has their jaw tendons a bit too short :/

2 things...1) fire production quality--just found your channel and your videos are awesome!!! 2) the screaming over the music is friggin fuuuuunnnnnyyyyy. anyways have a great day! :)

i miss bridges!! as a songwriter, writing bridges is so fun and i miss when they were more integral to music. i think songs are becoming shorter in general, largely because of tiktok. there’s nothing wrong with short songs or songs without bridges but often hit songs barely pass the 2 minute mark nowadays. that’s fine for some songs but a lot of “tiktok songs” end up feeling unfinished.

@molls127

Жыл бұрын

songs traditionally were under three minutes (this stopped being the standard in the seventies) but they at least had meaningful lyrics, now a lot of those short songs are just a weird chorus and a bunch of random sentences 😂

@shuasn

Жыл бұрын

the bridges are 90% of the time my favorite part of the song (prob from taylor swifts) which is why i no longer listen to "pop" music anymore

@_.mo._

Жыл бұрын

@@shuasn same i love a good bridge

@theyluvtwoset.13

11 ай бұрын

Taylor is keeping bridges alive, thank her for that

i think this is why Marina stands out to me... like she writes good soul-filled music. Ancient Dreams goes from talking about women's rights to self-acceptance and sass to saying goodbye to yourself as you grow and change to how sometimes you can be a happy loner to driving around in a pink convertible while the world is on fire and we're just desperately trying to ignore it. and the songs of hers that did go viral while yeah having that moment they're all much deeper. despite most of em being from her first two albums. and she loves a good bridge lol.

@Funeral_Mannequin

Жыл бұрын

Teen Idle is amazing.

@crunchevo8974

Жыл бұрын

@@Funeral_Mannequin all of Electra Heart is amazing honestly. One of the albums with 0 skips for sure

@Trinitysflicks767

Жыл бұрын

Marina >>>>>

@valentine8409

Жыл бұрын

Love her!!!

@crunchevo8974

Жыл бұрын

@@SolaceWhore considering i was talking about Marina i was referring to her 4 albums which I've heard all of. I usually skip a few songs in the first half of love+fear and a few songs from fruit. But really even if i had only heard one album and i didn't skip any tracks from it it would be one of the albums with 0 skips regardless of how many albums exist. It's you who can't conceptualize that someone may like something and the fact music taste is subjective. From how you talk I'd assume you're an ild fart who's wife is cheating on him with a hunk she works with but you secretly like it cause you deep down know you don't deserve her.

I like seeing this from the media creation side becauce the issue of streaming and stuff going viral for creators is something I've looked at a lot from a money side- like you said, maybe before you'd buy a record but now it autoplays- the first one gets a lot more money to the artist directly but the other one doesn't necessarily.

I listen to songs from 2015-1940s. If I find a modern song I enjoy, it has to be real special to me. Most songs these days sound the same as you said. There are some good songs however they’re usually from small KZread artist mainly that I found only thanks to Spotify. I do use TikTok to help me find new music. I found Ghost and fell in love with their music thanks to TikTok. I found Big Joanie from TikTok and they are my now one of my absolutely favorite band! My genre tastes range from: Hyperpop, electric pop, 90-2000 rnb, indie, folk, rock, death metal, black metal, hard rock, indie rock, vocoloid, lofi, instrumental jazz and blues and hip hop, punk, goth, electric goth, dance, electric dance, emo rock, classical orchestral music, then finally opera. I refuse to limit myself to one genre since music is supposed to make you feel, think, and just enjoy!

@X-3K

2 ай бұрын

vocoloid based and miku pilled

I completely love the way Gabi prevents copyright by screaming

@SeaJayMalm

4 ай бұрын

Between that, and blurring her feet for the 0.5 seconds they’re on camera, Gabi confirms that she knows how to internet.

For anyone looking to distance themselves from this trend, I would highly recommend finding any artist/artists that you have a casual interest in and listening to an album all the way through, in order. What you will begin to find is 1) the "viral hits" and singles are almost never the best songs and 2) you'll get suggestions to be able to build a repertoire of artists that genuinely is unique to you. I know this may seem like basic advice, but a lot of folks may not have thought to do something like this.

@The_LadyAJ

Жыл бұрын

Agreed! I highly recommend listening to Poor Mans Poison's other songs besides 'Hell's Comin' with Me'. 'Feed the Machine', and 'Give and Take' are both really good.

@daylynh8282

Жыл бұрын

This is fantastic advice, I love listening to an album all the way through when I have the time

@salt2209

Жыл бұрын

I LOVE CARPENTER BRUT I LOVE CARPENTER BRUT I LOVE CARPENTER BRUT I LOVE CARPENTER BRUT I LOVE CARPENTER BRUT I LOVE CARPENTER BRUT

@jesssinclair3366

Жыл бұрын

@@salt2209 Something tells me you love Carpenter Brut. Just a hunch

@salt2209

Жыл бұрын

@@jesssinclair3366 I LOVE CARPENTER BRUT

Because I never went to her Spotify page I didn't realize that Salem (Mad at Disney) also wrote one of my top songs - "Hey Siri". The difference is astronomical is the songs. Where Mad at Disney (and it seems by some of those other titles) are clearly gimmicky and have more boring versus. Hey Siri has such a different tone. Hey Siri is a serious song that goes into her mental health in a way that a lot of people (like myself) can greatly relate to. When comparing that to the other titles there or Mad at Disney or the PS5 one, it becomes obviously clear which ones were songs she was trying to simply make popular quickly on tik tok versus the songs that actually mean something to her, that actually come from feelings she wants to express. It's such as sad thing to think about, cause in the end these artists are being made (or feel like they're being made) to have to produce certain music like that, when they could be making not only better music, but also music that they want to produce or that's important and means something to them. One of my favorite things about certain music/songs is that connection you get when you can relate to the feelings or experience(s) of the artist; It's starting to feel like it's getting harder and harder to do that or to find music/songs that you can do that with.

@Kumo_.

2 ай бұрын

(Very late) Oh my goodness, thanks for the song recommendation! Love it! I see what you mean and I agree, this song feels way more meaningful than the other ones you listed. Nowadays there are songs out there that feel like they had no objective other than to get popular. The song loses its meaning.. without one. Nonsense, I know. That’s just how I feel about it though. Once again, thanks so much for recommending me the song! Will definitely throw that into my playlist, haha.

I know NOTHING about music, but your knowledge and insights make me so fascinated on the topic ❤ you are a great storyteller

"Tiktokified"/sped up songs just remind me of "Nightcore" songs I used to listen to when I was like ten

@sarah__sbk

23 күн бұрын

Right? I was so surprised when I saw that sped up remixes are trending, it's basically nightcore without the anime aesthetic and pitched up voices.

Something I've noticed is that the emotions have been dumbed down too. I feel like a lot of music is not embracing negative emotions like sadness or grief. We're always forced to listen to upbeat, catchy or surface level music. I can't find any new music to listen to when I'm down or need a good reflection session. You have a few gems here and there but even then they are so repetitive to flow well in to TikTok.

@ictogon

Жыл бұрын

idk just listen to Radiohead

@thevishyfishy

Жыл бұрын

thats why u gotta listen to some metal, brother

@crumplesnatch3400

Жыл бұрын

You should listen to Lana del rey

@pawpkitty

Жыл бұрын

@@thevishyfishy I do love metal/rock. I love system of a down

@Hailey_Paige_1937

Жыл бұрын

Pink Floyd is definitely my “Sad/Grief” go-to group.

I will say that while definitely exacerbated by tiktok, writing around one line you want to put in a song, poem, work of fiction, etc, is common practice and its cool I think that people are able to do that. I think where it goes wrong is, like you said, when the writing process becomes uninspired because you put that one good line in and now labels just want you to be done and make it go viral.

Ive never seen your channel until now and holy is your voice good to listen to

This is a way better take than just the "music is getting worse because something something attention spans something something video games." This makes so much more sense, so thanks for putting it out here.

@e_knees8816

Жыл бұрын

Video game music is probably the only thing fighting against it.

@owyemen9367

Жыл бұрын

Video game music are always bangers tho, underrale sea of thieves dmc Sonic etc will never not slap

@RecliningWhale

Жыл бұрын

@@e_knees8816 Nah, this shit is pretty much exclusively a problem in pop and pop-adjacent genre

@e_knees8816

Жыл бұрын

@@RecliningWhale I have no clue what I meant by that. I’ve been sick and delirious.

music means so much to me. the fact it’s becoming a giant factory is so upsetting to me. the joy of listening to music is hearing people’s personal stories and experiences, along with beats that perfectly fit the mood. hearing these generic ass trap drums over “oooo i miss my boyfriend oooo” makes me so mad. WHY DO YOU MISS HIM? WHY DOES IT HURT? HOW DID IT HAPPEN? if you actually care about your music, make it something that’s part of you. not ever song needs to be danceable, not every song needs to be about love, hell, not every song needs to be famous. all that matters is that you put your absolute best effort into very song. it doesn’t sell, but it’s more real than these manufactured singers.

@joonieluv5918

Жыл бұрын

This!

@DAventador44

Жыл бұрын

Already see someone coming in with a "don't care" reply to this. The last 3 sentences you said are exactly why I love NF. Apart from the insanely layered instrumentals by Tommee Profitt, the music is about him and his growth, it's his escape from his own past which in return means he puts so much emotion into the delivery on each and every one of his tracks.

@donkeycheeser

Жыл бұрын

yeah screw this world gimme some classical

@sleep3017

Жыл бұрын

That's why I started listening to classical music in 2021 as all of the most popular songs became about a relationship between a girl and a guy, like I don't WANT to know what happenned between you and your partner I just like the chord progression and the melody is nice, classical music does not have any lyrics (except operas) hence it makes me feel raw emotion when I listen to it. It makes me create a story around the melody and I think that is much more moving. Anyway I'm glad I did move away because pop music has become even more repetitive nowadays.

@kphoria1009

Жыл бұрын

there’s a time and place for everything. not every song needs to be a diary

This reminds me of a conversation two music producers/ songwriters had on a talk show. they talked about the album one them just had released and that the single was 4:33 long ... and how that's unheard nowadays because whether you like it or not labels are shortening their songs for more spins and more streaming counts (also tiktok). that's kinda sad. i especially love good bridges or intricate intro/outros in songs.

loving the 80s energy from your outfit!