It's similar to Isaiah Thomas, when he was the first option and team was built around him, he was an mvp candidate because of his scoring. But as a role player, he doesn't play defense well, he's not a good spot up shooter, doesn't do any little things. When these type of players aren't the focus of the offense, it just doesn't work. Kinda like Westbrook too, only Westbrook is athletic enough to do other things, but he's not a good role player... the injuries don't help either...

@HouDeani

2 жыл бұрын

Kyrie Irving is thee next quick 30 year old guard to fall off tell me different.

@tsmguxxi6559

2 жыл бұрын

Perfect comp! Except it’s less fit than guys that small need every bit of athleticism and speed & shooting , Thomas & kemba have never been elite shooters instead high volume bucket getters but streaky shooters, without the athleticism there nearly useless, kemba got some bench scoring left though but 15min max

@toogud7918

2 жыл бұрын

I think it’s injury and size that also unite them. Two small guards that are very injury prone later in their careers is very hard to justify building a team around

@bpdmf2798

2 жыл бұрын

That might be a part of it, but having watched Kemba's decline on my Celtics, it was almost all health. He stopped getting past defenders and was getting blocked a lot and he was missing like every other game and in the bubble he was great day 1 but i swear every game he got like 5% worse to the point he was like a mediocre backup level guy in the ECF.

@brandoni241

2 жыл бұрын

@@bpdmf2798 he also never refined his game. A lot of players athleticism regress. Look at Chris Paul, his athleticism has been gone for like 5 seasons. But Paul developed a good mid range shot, is an even better passer, and works well off screens. Kemba never really developed other skills outside of driving the lane...

Hopefully Kemba takes this time off to reinvent himself and extend his playing career. He's a good player and a great person. I want to see a guy like him prosper.

Best move MJ ever made was letting Kemba go, it was a ballsy move considering he is maybe the best player ever for the modern version of the Hornets. Respect to MJ and his staff.

@HouDeani

2 жыл бұрын

Kyrie Irving is thee next quick 30 year old guard to fall off tell me different.

@yeseloraelsama8949

2 жыл бұрын

@@HouDeani I doubt it mans game isn’t based to much on athleticism and he’s always been successful despite always being injury prone

@Bentley7Cruize

2 жыл бұрын

He should've traded to get more back earlier but we were lucky we grabbed Terry back. Could've gotten more at the deadline tho... we didn't wanna give up on the playoffs tho

@WorldwideWyatt

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bentley7Cruize Hornets didn’t trade him at the deadline because they didn’t think he’d be 3rd team all-NBA. Without the all nba selection he doesn’t qualify for the super max. I think they’d have paid him the max but not the super max.

@user-um5dz9gt4o

2 жыл бұрын

@@HouDeani Lmao Kyrie just dropped 50 on the best efficiency from a player that hit 50 in nba history 😂 🤣 its always funny when people like you compare great players to average ass players who do well on bad teams Kemba and Kyrie aren't even in the same realm so even If he falls off it would be still better than Kemba "best"

Celtics brought him in for his leadership, experience, PMA (positive mental attitude), selflessness, and to get them 15-20ppg and 5+ assists with low turnovers. Unfortunately, he'd already left his best years on the court in Charlotte. No one can play flat-footed in the NBA today, especially a smaller guard.

CP3 is not an exception because he's not the same type of player as Kemba. He's small, but he's never relied on athleticism to be good and he's not a score-first player.

@atsk3281

2 жыл бұрын

Are you sure? If you claim CP didn't rely on quickness, you're lying.

@t-god2439

2 жыл бұрын

@@atsk3281 maybe he didn’t see Chris Paul in NO when he dunked on Dwight Howard and he dropped Tony Parker on his ass

@sadboyinhell619

2 жыл бұрын

@@atsk3281 If you watch CP3 play now he really doesnt, he paces himself really well and weaves through defenses to get to his midrange spots, and hes always been a pass-first guy

@brysonsuttles8252

2 жыл бұрын

Cp3 more athletic smh

@panner11

2 жыл бұрын

He didn't say he wasn't quick or athletic. He said he didn't rely on it, key wording difference.

My Celtics really blew that situation, but we got like one and a half good year out of him.

@HouDeani

2 жыл бұрын

Kyrie Irving is thee next quick 30 year old guard to fall off tell me different.

@bpdmf2798

2 жыл бұрын

I don't like Kyrie, but he is by far a craftier player and WAY better shooter so he should be ok into his 30's.

@gregleavitt1255

2 жыл бұрын

@@bpdmf2798 Especially when he takes himself out of 50% of the season

CP don't really rely on quickness, his assist first mentality means defender can't fully commit and that gave him easy jump shots. Athletic heavy player fades fast, like Westbrook.

@dataphoenix8004

2 жыл бұрын

cp was fast early in his career

@T.Sullivan

2 жыл бұрын

Lol Westbrook been in the league how long?

@Tribal_Sky75

2 жыл бұрын

@@T.Sullivan Since 2008

@soob9178

2 жыл бұрын

CP3 is just a savvy and crafty veteran whose understanding of the game is above everybody except maybe lebron. He's also a great 3 point, mid-range shooter and top tier passer who can adapt to any offense but make it better.

@RT-ox6gt

2 жыл бұрын

@@soob9178 who has higher I.Q., Cp or Bron?

I loved the fit with NY and was expecting something out of it. Oh, well. I hope he gets the chance to bounce back, somewhere with low expectations and pressure on his own shoulders

@mtuktuk9627

2 жыл бұрын

its the knees not the shoulders.....he wont bounce back i think....no defense,no sharpshooter and not explosivenes to the rim....no good team will have use for him, would need to have some kind of miracle ressurection....and i wish he would ...love him , but dont see it :(

@HouDeani

2 жыл бұрын

Kyrie Irving is thee next quick 30 year old guard to fall off tell me different.

@tsmguxxi6559

2 жыл бұрын

@@HouDeani different , elite handling (moves that rely on shiftiness not speed or athleticism, good 3pt shooter elite mid range guy) now will he ever play 82 no , injury prone but when on floor will be effective for at least 3-5 years.. Kemba relies on speed bursts & athleticism to score he has lost that he never was an elite shooter just like isiah Thomas(the midget one)

@EnjoyTheSilenc3

2 жыл бұрын

He’s not leaving NY and I’m glad he’s not. He had some great games this year and maybe taking the rest of the year to heal his knee will help. Love the dude, and he’s loyal af when he doesn’t have to be.

@kurttaylors1996

2 жыл бұрын

That place doesn't exist noone wants kemba walker getting big minutes on their team

Kemba was my favorite Rookie back then, so much that I was actually rooting for the poor Bobcats. I'm feel bad for the guy

@HouDeani

2 жыл бұрын

Kyrie Irving is thee next quick 30 year old guard to fall off tell me different.

@coppermanarrowz1001

2 жыл бұрын

@@HouDeani Dame time

Because the team around him wasn’t that great he was always the scorer never the playmaker, small guards need exceptional playmaking skills to last in the league like Chris Paul has

Nick Nurse playing him 40 minutes in an all star game while dealing with injuries at the time was the beginning of the end

Happy kemba got his max contract end of the day he’s set for life 💯🐐

@Rwizzzzzy

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

I’d like to see Kemba in a mentor role for young guards and someone who is a role player of the bench.

That's sad man. But fuck it. Dude made the best of what he had and made himself known. More than a lot of other nba prospects can dram of. All-Star and All-Nba? Not bad man.

Hey I love this kind of content. Keep up this kind of series.

I think its worth noting CP3 is significantly different from mostly every guard in the league right now. His worth comes from his point guard skills vs scoring. He can run an offense with his eyes closed, is probably the highest IQ player in the league next to Lebron and picks his and his teammates spots perfectly. Plus hes extremely talented even at his old age and size on defense. Plus he scores efficiently. His value has never come from his athleticism which is why he relied on those skills mentioned previously and differentiated him from Deron Williams. He just had a style that was always going to test time imo. His mid-range game is enough to get defenders to stick on through picks, his passing picks apart defenses and warrents being guarded because he can still take it past a lot of guys to get to the rim.

@SosAisMLife

2 жыл бұрын

IQ and lebron in the same sentence. You’ve been watching too much skip bayless

@AppleJacksCereal

2 жыл бұрын

There are a few players I would consider having a higher iq than lebron, including cp3.

@Amm17ar

2 жыл бұрын

@@AppleJacksCereal Thats your opinion. I can recall many interviews with Lebron and his past teammates that exemplified his insane IQ. I believe it was Iman Shumpert that was saying that one playoff game, Lebron knew the play the opposing team was going to be running, he knew just by hearing the coach call the play, Shump said that Lebron knew the play before the teams own players knew what play was being called. Theres been so many accounts of Lebron recalling plays from 20 years ago, and getting his coach to understand the plays. Again, youre entitled to your opinion, but dont let bias distract you from the fact that Lebron James is genuinely one of the most intelligent NBA players ever. Dude knows everything there is to know. Just because it doesnt translate to the court everytime doesnt mean its not true. I do agree CP3 is one of the highest IQ players in the league, and probably history. But I still think Lebron has a higher IQ. Edit: kzread.info/dash/bejne/foB-j6Szn6mziJM.html Heres the interview w/ Shump. I mis-remembered the story but I still think the interview provides my evidence. I didnt wanna delete the orginal comment despite being wrong about it. My bad for the mistake!

@AppleJacksCereal

2 жыл бұрын

@@Amm17ar Yes it’s no secret lebron has a high iq. I never said otherwise. What I am saying is that I don’t believe he has the highest iq in the league. I can think of a few players who can contest him in this regards, including cp3. There are many players with high iq’s, but at the end of the day it’s mostly opinionated on who is smarter than who. Even then, there’s different facets of iq. For example, neither Chris Paul or lebron James hold a candle iq-wise to tony Allen when it comes to defensive iq.

Those 4 seasons with 6 missed games cost him in the long run. His injury is more of a wear and tear injury afterall

Still remember when this guy will drop 60 in your head? Man good old days we miss prime Kemba

I blame this on MJ, the fact that he couldn’t surround Kemba with actual NBA players that were good defenders is embarrassing. I really feel bad for Kemba, he stuck with the Hornets through thick and thin (mostly thin) and they didn’t give him the contract he wanted, then goes to the Celtics, they don’t want him, and now the Knicks don’t want him

@onlyfacts3178

Жыл бұрын

he was overrated..didnt deserve to be an all-star..he was just a volume shooter with a horrible FG%...

@legendarywiimaster

Жыл бұрын

@@onlyfacts3178 you really not living up to your channel name are you?

@josephmatthews7698

Жыл бұрын

​@@legendarywiimaster lol

@josephmatthews7698

Жыл бұрын

​@@onlyfacts3178 there's a difference between being a shot jacker like Klay and being a guy who has to shoot volume because the team sucks and depends on you to do so like Kemba on Hornets. Surround him with a pick and roll big, lengthy defensive wings who can shoot and another creator at shooting guard they'd be making deep playoff runs every year. Dude was a champion in college for a reason, he did what it took to win. Unfortunately Charlotte has always been one of the worst run franchises and maintains that to this day.

Small guard that relies on quickness and his body fell apart because of all injuries he's had

@HouDeani

2 жыл бұрын

Kyrie Irving is thee next quick 30 year old guard to fall off tell me different.

@BrandonGavin_EDC

Жыл бұрын

@@HouDeani you have a hard on for Kyrie dude, did he bang your wife or something?

It’s kinda like what happened to IT. Both smaller guards that relay on athleticism and speed so when they get older and more injuries they lose that step and become even more of a defensive liability

It’s sad AF. He was one of my fav players. Sad how his knees just gave up.

@HouDeani

2 жыл бұрын

Kyrie Irving is thee next quick 30 year old guard to fall off tell me different.

@zuheiender4494

2 жыл бұрын

@@HouDeani Different

He needs to take the d rose bounce back blueprint. I feel like he could hopefully. Could be a 6th man of year one year hopefully

@HouDeani

2 жыл бұрын

Kyrie Irving is thee next quick 30 year old guard to fall off tell me different.

@doggyd619

2 жыл бұрын

@@HouDeani I think Mike Conley, Kyle Lowry, or Damian Lillard might fall off before kyrie. For one kyrie is healthy and barely plays so he has more time off. Mike been hurt could fall off. Lillard wasn't having the best year this year and got hurt so could fall off too.

@maximusorbis2548

2 жыл бұрын

Your delusional if you think that. He could be a six man but not competing For 6moy candidate

@doggyd619

2 жыл бұрын

@@maximusorbis2548 I never said that wtf you on about

@maximusorbis2548

2 жыл бұрын

@@doggyd619 you literally said “could be a 6th man of year one year hopefully” exact words son. Ur on crack

This will be a D Rose type of thing.... he will have a comeback and will be used as a good backup point guard

@whlewis9164

2 жыл бұрын

I hope so - he's a guy you like to root for.

@timfranz53

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t compare Kemba to Derrick rose. Rose become a solid back up because he lost his athleticism not age. Kemba is gonna be a backup because of his age

@silverfang4583

2 жыл бұрын

I mean maybe but both players were different. D rose was much better so even after getting injured and being say 70 percent of his old self he was still better. He got injured much earlier in his career so he had much more time to shift his style He is smarter than kemba, and most importantly he can shoot

@AppleJacksCereal

2 жыл бұрын

@@silverfang4583 actually rose wasn’t all that good of a shooter he definitely improved. But I agree rose is more skilled than kemba

@silverfang4583

2 жыл бұрын

@@AppleJacksCereal I'm talking about right now he can shoot better

Got a tonne of love for kemba. Sad to see it go down like this.

@HouDeani

2 жыл бұрын

Kyrie Irving is thee next quick 30 year old guard to fall off tell me different.

@ihj2k

2 жыл бұрын

@@HouDeani this aged like milk

It’s kind of funny to me when people make these rise and fall videos about NBA players. Because it’s basically a very elaborate way of saying ; “ he was really good and then he was injured and now he’s not good!” That’s kind of how time works. It’s called entropy and it will eventually destroy everything. Anyone that has played a pick up game knows how physically demanding this sport is so imagine playing on the highest level for between 60 and 80 games a season !! It’s amazing that they don’t all go down with an injury !

one of my favourite players but his decline was inevitable , small guard with injuries

Great intro. We were debating his max contract...now he don't play

Been watching him since the bobcats, it's simple, his knee injuries caught up to him, before that he wasn't always injured like he is now.

I don’t even like basketball but the politeness gets a like from me

Sad to see the guy who really brought his A game in Charlotte especially there at the end have such a downfall

Prime Kemba was beautiful to watch

This is a little pre mature. Dude won player of the week literally a few weeks before shutting it down for the season. Why would a 32 year old player dealing with injuries risk it for a tanking knicks team that had go chance at the playoffs. That benefits no one. Call me crazy but I think kemba has at least a few more good years left in him pending his injury. We seen Drose bounce back from his knee problems I hope kemba can do the same

Kemba was an all star starter his first season in Boston.

He’s such a sad story. Everyone was so happy that he was FINALLY out of Charlotte… now it’s probably over just 3 years later

He was a bucket before he got hurt. Sad to see him get sent home by a failing franchise. Its tuff its all done for him

I think kemba could get a role as an off the bench spark plug for a team that is struggling with bench scoring but I do not think his offense production is enough to compensate for his defense.

@gregleavitt1255

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe as a mentor on-the-floor coach but there ain't much spark left in that plug unfortunately.

The Knicks team is certainly a graveyard of former NBA stars.

Man it’s okay to retire I think he done because those injuries. Atleast he got paid imagine players like Brand Roy DaJuan Wagner and many many more who made it but because of health or injuries couldn’t even make it to there second contact

His knees fell apart, that's what happened.

Thanks for the work you did for Charlotte. God bless you Kemba!!

y'all too premature with narratives.. it's all about the right situation when it comes to playing ball, if you play you know.. i'm not even this huge kemba fan but i'm not going to say he's out of the league.. quick to push people out of jobs.. i'll take kemba over quickley

@jaywho3737

2 жыл бұрын

Forreal. Dude won player of the week like 2 weeks before shutting it down for the season.

he would and should fit perfectly on that knicks team. unfortunately injuries have derailed his ability to do what he did in Charlotte. Wish nothing but the best for him moving forward.

this hurts as an hornets fan💔

What a about Lillard? Can he bounce back or was this season begining his fall? Walker, he didn't get any favour with coach Thibs. I think he can be useful player, but for coach who use him right way. Hopefully next season he will be in other team.

@HouDeani

2 жыл бұрын

Kyrie Irving is thee next quick 30 year old guard to fall off tell me different.

@nosukog

2 жыл бұрын

Dame is Dame tho he'll comeback even Westbrook

come to australia we need him!!!

Kemba needs to get back on a team that really could use him. Personally (I'm not saying this just because I'm a Wizards fan) I think DC is a perfect fit for him. Lets him be the primary ball handler, no competition, would work great with Beal, and he would def. go back to his Hornets or first year in Boston self.

This video makes me sad

I’ll miss Kemba

small dudes who lose a step really struggle in the league.

Tony Parker, Kevin Johnson, and Tim Hardaway all are short PG's who relied heavily on their quickness and yet had a couple of really good years after the age of thirty. To be fare, all three also had deadly outside shots and were much more pass-first PG's than Kemba, (especially Parker), so I take ur point

cp3's type of passing players usually age well. stockton, kidd, nash, mark jackson, gary payton, andre miller, rajon rondo. its scoring guys like iverson, kemba, marbury, francis that don't age well

NYK, where elite point guards go to die.

NBA doesn’t teach you that the grass isn’t always greener on the other side. Charlottes market is weak bc MJ and crew refuse to make big changes. They will lose Melo in a couple years bc of this.

@Rationalist101

2 жыл бұрын

That's tuff

Contracts are so out of hand now, they landed him in his best years for 48M, they then paid him 141 million to get the last couple years he had left. Now guys getting 250M over five years. It’s crazy

Nick Nurse Exposed Him During TOR-BOS Playoffs back 2020 I think

Jeremy Lin helped him alot back in Charlotte

Really miss Cardiac Kemba😕

I still get super angry thinking about Terry Rozier. Danny Ainge tanked the Celtics for 2+ years post Kyrie by paying Kemba twice Rozier's money and the only thing Kemba did better than Rozier was attack the basket and he was getting worse at that. Rozier is bigger, faster, stronger, better shooter, better passer, better rebounder, and so on AND he's just now getting into his prime. The Celtics are still eating Kemba's contract and will at minimum eat 14 million of Horford's money and gave up the 16th pick just to see that 16th pick in the rookie all star game (I'm pretty sure).

my fav player in nba....

Seems like when these short guys start losing their athleticism and speed they just fall off quick. Unless it's someone like CP3 who is just a point god.

Brad Stevens has done a great job in Boston including getting rid of Kemba and getting Horford back..Hiring EME as coach and bringing Theis back, great moves..I think Brad should be up for GM of the year and IME coach of the year.. Lets go 💚

@gregleavitt1255

2 жыл бұрын

Organization of the year, for sure. In every way, they're creating what the next modern NBA will look like and that's a great thing! Stars actually playing the regular season games, humility, ball movement (instead of hero-ball ISO's), off-the-ball movement, wins over individual stats, sense of humor over ego, etc.. Go C's!

The best players are the ones who pass first, shoot later. People don’t commit to them since they’re most likely gonna pass but that leaves them open for some free shots every now and then

I still remember that there was a time I thought kemba is the next kyrie, or atleast closest player to compare to kyrie

Jaylen Brown next video Sporting Logically 🙏🙏🙏

Kemba has to go to a team that doest have a star player, probably super sonics if they come to the nba,but for now i think magic is good for him

Sad but true

Fantastic content recent new sub so well put together each video and super entertaining and interesting 👍 keep up the good work mate 👌

@SportingLogically

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

he has to get some of that CP3 secret stuff

If Charlotte would've surrounded Kemba with more talent than he wouldn't have wore down as quickly as he has

I’d honestly use part of the Cs Fournier TPE to bring back Kemba this offseason.

@TheKna978

2 жыл бұрын

No

Kemba is a score ONLY guard. He doesn't make anyone around him better

Man it sucks I thought kemba would finally give us some stability at the PG position but add him to a long list of bad PG

@akeemscott7616

2 жыл бұрын

i dont think he sucked at all

I remember when everyone was clowning charlotte for choosing rozier over kemba, boy how wrong were they

It's crazy how people said he was wasting his talent by playing with the Hornets, seems like he was bette off while playing on the Honerts

Answer is simple he was a speedy undersized guy that lost a step. Every guy with his style of game/ body type had a steep drop off when they lost that burst

I generally forgot about this man (Kemba)

Writing was on the wall when they sent him on the fiba team and they didn't even medal...I'm looking at you too Donovan mitchell

I'll never forget how he basically willed UConn to the national championship.

He should rest up, adjust his diet and training regimen, and should try to somehow get to a place like the Jazz, Mavericks, or Lakers.

Damn it's sad really. Traded to pistons then a contract buyout.

@MrRapmaster19

2 жыл бұрын

Probably to never play consistently at the NBA level ever again. As a Knick fan, watching him play last year was heartbreaking. He clearly has lost a step and then some. He cannot create his own shot like he used to, he's slow to get to the paint (factor in his teeny height and you can see why that's an issue), and he was an absolute turnstile on defense that made him practically unplayable for a Knick team with a defensive identity. I loved those few games he showed the flashes of the old Kemba, but they were fleeting moments that were the last hurrah of a great but sad career.

If charlotte would’ve at least attempted to build a team around him before he got injured his career would’ve been way different

@noonecares7730

2 жыл бұрын

They did attempt to be fair. Its just harder for mediocre small market teams.

Shooting not quick enough, not big enough to provide better defense r just the 2 shortcoming I can point out on top of my head….

The difference between Chris Paul Situation and Kemba is Chris Paul is crafty, doesnt use speed but rather his ball handling, craftiness and the guy is smart asf to get defense confused, and great passer too. Kembas game rely on Quickness, Speed and Ball Handling skills leaving defenders behind.

@darrengordon-hill

2 жыл бұрын

CP3 = PG.

People talk about how the kings and the hornets are bad at drafting and that got me thinking, what if they just not good at developing young talent? Plz discuss

@darrengordon-hill

2 жыл бұрын

Few want to be in Charlotte or Sacramento. It's that simple. What magic would it take to develop Okafor or Zeller??

He just recently dropped 44 💯

He must need to play into a team who can boost his talent.

I'm just glad he got that good back from the Celtics just slightly wise you'll never have to work a day in his life that is the dream

to think in 2019 he had the best career in his life but after Charlotte and went to Boston, it was all over for him

NBA players under 6 feet tall who aren't pass first just aren't worth big contracts, and even the pass first guys are rarely worth it (CP3 is the type that is worth the money when healthy).

hey you, guy in the video lol🤣 you look like jack black lol🤣 funny

He played incredibly well at the start of the season. He started on the All Star team, and if you look back, he was mentioned every week on the KIA MVP ladder. Not to mention, he was the exactly the type of locker room guy the team needed to recover from all the nonsense and drama. As a Celtic fan, I'll always have a lot of love for Kemba. I actually hoped he made us look stupid this year by coming back to form proving everyone wrong. Sad story for such a good dude.

@onlyfacts3178

Жыл бұрын

he was overrated..didnt deserve to be an all-star..he was just a volume shooter with a horrible FG%...

8:29 it was not disaster from the start The knicks one a 2OT against the Celtics with Fournier and Walker having great games. But continue

NOW DO KYRIE IRVING!!!! He's almost 30 and hardly plays! He is the next Kemba Walker and I know you believe it to be true. Don't let your Nets bias tell you different.

@HumzaS29

2 жыл бұрын

Are you okay in the head???

It reminds me of Ben Gordon another UConn player

Man I remember the WHOLE NBA community roasting tf out of Charlotte and MJ when they let him go, looks like they had they last laugh

Dude just went 92 and 6 on 14 3's

I think he can still be a 2nd 3rd option on a good team

@mtuktuk9627

2 жыл бұрын

how? Oponnents hunt him....and he cant attack the rim anymore...what role should he play? He is not a high% 3point shooter either....

Before that you said 2013 was the weirdest

Never understood why he was so loyal in his prime years to a scrub team.