The STRANGEST FOX BROADCASTING CONTROVERSY of the 1999 MLB Season

For the final week of the 1999 MLB season, the FOX affiliate in Madison, Wisconsin, WMSN, had two options for games to show. Option one was to pick the battle between the Milwaukee Brewers, the hometown team, and the Cincinnati Reds, who were tied for the division lead in the NL Central and were fighting for a playoff spot. Option two was to show a meaningless game between the St. Louis Cardinals and the Chicago Cubs. And to say that FOX chose very poorly at first would be quite the understatement.
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  • @jmt5887
    @jmt5887 Жыл бұрын

    That brewers series is one of the greatest what ifs and one of the most painful series in the history of baseball's oldest franchise. That 99 team was insanely good. Probably the best reds team to ever exist that didn't win a world series

  • @protoman1365

    @protoman1365

    Жыл бұрын

    Even better than the 2012 team? Wow

  • @aaronholcomb237

    @aaronholcomb237

    Жыл бұрын

    Or the 1981 team that got left out because of the split season even though they had the best record in the MLB.

  • @Musicradio77Network
    @Musicradio77Network Жыл бұрын

    Remember back in October 1986 when NBC aired Game 7 of the “World Series” where the Mets played against the Red Sox while ABC aired “Monday Night Football” where the Giants played against Redskins? There was no split screen back then, but all they need is to flip the channels back and forth to see the actual game either baseball or football, and everyone chose baseball.

  • @mrmoose6619

    @mrmoose6619

    Жыл бұрын

    JaguarGator9 did do a video on this very topic...

  • @WaltGekko

    @WaltGekko

    Жыл бұрын

    And as I remember, many felt the NFL should have told NBC that televising Game 7 that Monday night opposite MNF would have been a violation of their TV contract with the NFL and made MLB either play the game on a very wet field Sunday night (even if the game started at say 10:00 PM ET even though it had actually stopped raining before it was called) OR play it Monday afternoon at 4:00 PM ET or Tuesday night. As I remember, the Giants and the NFL were angry with MLB over that and felt then-Commissioner Pete Rozelle should have "strongly suggested" to then-MLB Commissioner Peter Uberroth they play Game 7 as scheduled Sunday night even if the field was too wet.

  • @MichaelBurmy
    @MichaelBurmy Жыл бұрын

    My cousin Jason lives in Madison and he's a big Cubs fan...so he was probably happy to see this.

  • @CTubeMan
    @CTubeMan Жыл бұрын

    1. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was more passion for the Cubs than the Brewers in Madison at that time. 2. When Beano Cook was a publicist at CBS he explained to management that if you don’t have a Packers game to show to Green Bay you always show the Bears.

  • @dangeiger9796
    @dangeiger9796 Жыл бұрын

    My favorite was the time FOX cut away from a Cubs-White Sox game with the game on the line late to show a Mets-Yankees game. Why? Roger Clemens was batting and they wanted to see if the Mets would throw at him

  • @fantasticvoyage262

    @fantasticvoyage262

    Жыл бұрын

    So did the Mets throw at him?

  • @stevengrvp

    @stevengrvp

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@fantasticvoyage262the Mets threw behind never hitting roger

  • @Austin_Orr
    @Austin_Orr Жыл бұрын

    Ah yes the home run chase to see whose steroids worked more.

  • @rngfootball759
    @rngfootball759 Жыл бұрын

    Man the 99 Reds should have been in the playoffs in today's playoff format. They had likes of Larkin, Cameron, Greg Vaughn, Sean Casey. Also Pete Harnish one of the most underrated pitchers in the 90s.

  • @marcus813

    @marcus813

    Жыл бұрын

    If the 1999 season had the current playoff format, the Reds would've made it in comfortably because they were 10 games clear of the Giants.

  • @WaltGekko

    @WaltGekko

    Жыл бұрын

    I remember this: On the final day of the regular season, the Reds had to sit through a six-hour rain delay in Milwaukee before their game with the Brewers that was supposed to be at 3:00 PM local time (4:00 PM ET) on ESPN2 was to take place. Meanwhile, the Mets, who took care of business earlier in the day and knew at worse they'd be playing in a one-game playoff for the Wild Card had already flown to Cincinnati in case they had to play the Reds on Monday as otherwise, they could have then continued to Arizona to face a Diamondbacks team that won 100 games in its second year of existence. That game for the Reds and Brewers was originally supposed to be the final game at County Stadium before a construction accident delayed the opening of what originally was Miller Park (now American Family Field) by a year, leading to the bizarre situation where you had a near-empty stadium with an announced crowd of 55,000 (because by then ticket sales were considered the attendance and not the actual attendance for said games), which was technically the record attendance for a game in County Stadium. There was a further irony because that Reds-Brewers game was looking like it would be the last regular-season MLB game on ESPN because at that time, ESPN and MLB were in a dispute because then-Commissioner Bud Selig was angry that Sunday Night Baseball once the NFL season started were being moved to ESPN2, dating back to a year earlier when Turner Broadcasting (who had the first half of the Sunday Night NFL slate on TNT from 1990-'97) no longer wanted the Sunday night games, which were given to ESPN (which to that point had done Sunday night NFL games after the World Series beginning with the 1987 season). Selig was upset as were many old-time baseball fans because they felt they were being snubbed because you had many at that time that still felt baseball was KING (as well as numerous sportswriters) and many poo-pooed the NFL, not realizing the NFL was becoming the 800-pound gorilla of sports it is today. They thought it was "beneath" MLB to have to air on ESPN2, which at that time had a smaller number of subscribers than ESPN (now of course those are virtually even). That Reds-Brewers game wound up a Sunday night game on ESPN2 and destroyed the myth about being on ESPN2 and a new deal eventually was announced. In the game itself, the Reds won it like they were double-parked and the Brewers mailed it in. The delay, however, coupled with the Mets already being in Cincinnati because their game ended much earlier turned out to be a big advantage (that Reds-Brewers game didn't end until around Midnight local time in Milwaukee as I remember).

  • @danielanderson4726
    @danielanderson4726 Жыл бұрын

    I thought that FOX would preempt the Cubs-Cardinals game because it was a meaningless game and replace it with Pirates-Mets and also preempt the Marlans-Braves game too since it was meaningless game too.

  • @JayTemple
    @JayTemple Жыл бұрын

    13:26 By final wild card spot, you mean only wild card spot (for the NL). There still have not been as many seasons with a multi-WC format as there were with the single-WC format.

  • @jaguargator7

    @jaguargator7

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep. Meant to say wild card and final playoff spot, and combined the two phrases

  • @fantasticvoyage262
    @fantasticvoyage262 Жыл бұрын

    The funny thing was, ESPN would never cut into Judge at bats on MNF. Only during college games or other programming.

  • @lsmftymf
    @lsmftymf Жыл бұрын

    The Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, Cardinals, Dodgers and Nationals are the favorites of both FOX and ESPN which try to force-feed these six MLB teams down the throats of baseball fans to the detriment of the sport.

  • @marcus813
    @marcus813 Жыл бұрын

    8:03 If a Albany/Troy/Schenectady, N.Y. (Capitol Region) CBS or FOX affiliate passed on an important Jets game without, say, a Bills conflict, then that would be equivalent to what happened in Madison, Wis. The NYC area would get the Jets regardless. As for how Madison's FOX 47 ended up in this mess, I wonder if FOX forgot who Madison was in-market for. CHC/STL shouldn't have even been a consideration for any FOX station in Wisconsin whether it was in Madison, LaCrosse or Green Bay. This appears to be the same "logic" that FOX Sports Media Group does with its NFL coverage many times.

  • @armyguy650
    @armyguy650 Жыл бұрын

    How do you get your footage ?

  • @armyguy650

    @armyguy650

    Жыл бұрын

    ????

  • @davidriley1702
    @davidriley17025 ай бұрын

    8:45 I remember that year very very very very very very very very very very well 11:51 I'm happy that I live in a Market where Fox-despite its past-owns a local tv station[WNYW-TV New York]. 12:35 This move is called lobbying for a game, Something that WNYW-TV New York-under Michael Wach-did firing the NFL season

  • @fantasticvoyage262
    @fantasticvoyage262 Жыл бұрын

    I thought the local affiliates pick which game to choose? Has it always been like this?

  • @WaltGekko

    @WaltGekko

    Жыл бұрын

    On FOX, they usually do.

  • @kevingreen2400
    @kevingreen2400 Жыл бұрын

    The 99 Reds team was a fun team to watch but blew a tire at the very end. Late season pickup Juan Guzman laid a egg in his Saturday start that forced them to have to start staff ace Pete Harnish in a do or die game 162 and have inexperienced Steve Parris start the wild card play in. He gave up a 2 run run homer 2 batters into the game and the Reds were essentially out of it from the jump. It didnt help that Al Leiter threw a 2 hitter either.

  • @WaltGekko

    @WaltGekko

    Жыл бұрын

    Reds had to sit through a six-hour rain delay that Sunday as their game with the Brewers (ironically originally supposed to be the final game in County Stadium before construction of Miller Park was delayed a year by an accident with multiple fatalities) while the Mets took care of business earlier that Sunday, allowing the Mets to already be in Cincinnati for a potential one-game playoff before the Reds game even started (the Reds game was supposed to be a 3:00 PM local time start because it was the second game of a doubleheader on ESPN2 but didn't start until just after 9:00 PM in Milwaukee). Mets had a HUGE advantage because of that. Ironically, that could have been the final regular season game on ESPN as there was a dispute between MLB and ESPN because ESPN had a year earlier gotten the first half of the Sunday Night package Turner passed on renewing after the 1997 season and as a result, Sunday Night Baseball was moved to ESPN2. This angered Selig because he and others felt it was "beneath MLB" as I remember to have games on ESPN2 instead of ESPN, especially since then many still looked at baseball as KING over the NFL, which was becoming the 800-pound gorilla of sports it is now. This particular game, what turned into a Sunday Night game on ESPN2 broke those myths and MLB and ESPN put a new contract in place to continue with MLB.