Love the WWF cameo in the newspaper clipping partially showing a prototype match to the Royal Rumble match which debut in January 1988.

@travismiller4320

2 жыл бұрын

Looks like it was only a 12 man Royal Rumble

@ZeroCrystal

2 жыл бұрын

@@travismiller4320 True, but you got Paul Orndorff and Rick Rude in it, and they were fresh into a feud after Rude's debut. Would have been worth admission price.

@RetroJR3379

2 жыл бұрын

You beat me to it lol

@GregoryWeagle

2 жыл бұрын

@@travismiller4320 It was probably one of those matches done as a test to see if the Royal Rumble concept would be accepted by the fans in that house show. Seems to have worked, too. For what it is worth, the first Royal Rumble in January 1988 was with 20 men and was on cable. The Royal Rumble didn't become a PPV and increase to 30 until 1989. Also, before it officially became the Royal Rumble, it was sometimes called a Rumble Royal.

@cameronrose9902

2 жыл бұрын

I would pay to see rude vs orndorff, I'm saying Rude won with help from Heenan!!!

Who gets upset? The people who work concessions just to get by. The owners and staff of restaurants and bars that surround the arenas. The parking attendants. The stadium maintenance staff. Literally everyone.

@DolFan316

2 жыл бұрын

And Yugoslavians, don't forget about them!

@williamwilkinson381

2 жыл бұрын

Wtf would they care huh?

@dandyjimbuckley

2 жыл бұрын

I’m not upset…😤🤬😭, although I would feel better about the situation if I had a huge pile of 💵💰💴 to lay down on too…that being said, I sure hope ESPN has an option to renew their contract with the KBO 🇰🇷 🙏🏼…can’t go on without my ⚾️ fix.

Not surprised about Jack Clark he even wanted to fight Tony Gwynn when he was a Padres.

@travismcdonald6576

2 жыл бұрын

Yup.

Can you please do a Mets/Jets dispute over the years at Shea stadium? Also in 1975, Shea stadium hosted both My baseball and football teams.

@Ghostrider6A

2 жыл бұрын

Yankees, Mets, Jets, Giants all used Shea in 1975. Yankee Stadium was in the middle of a renovation.

@AdamJ617

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree that there should be a video about both NY baseball teams AND both NY NFL teams sharing the same stadium. I didn’t know about it, and so that is a great video suggestion.

@Ghostrider6A

2 жыл бұрын

@@AdamJ617 I'd certainly be interested in knowing on how the schedules were formed that year...especially on Sundays during baseball season.

@theknightswhosay

2 жыл бұрын

I imagine things happened at yankee stadium and the polo grounds too.

@russellgrosser-7677

23 күн бұрын

That would be an enjoyable video to watch for sure! I'd like to see one re: the Buffalo Sabres and the former NBA Buffalo Braves (now the LA Clippers) who always argued over scheduling issues in the old Memorial Auditorium.

ah yes, I remember the '87 strike well! Washington wins their second Super Bowl (the first one also coming during a strike-shortened season in 1982) completely random unrelated side note: the WWF newspaper ad at 10:02 features the first ever test run of the Royal Rumble, which was won by the One Man Gang

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, good thing the Vikings crushed the 49ers, and, subsequently, forgot, how, to catch.

@ajk

2 жыл бұрын

Glad I wasn't only one who caught that, didn't realize it was the very first though, although makes sense with the verbiage in the ad. Also..on another unrelated note.....some guy named Ric Rude was on that card apparently. No word on if he was related to Rick Rude or not......lol.

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

@ajk Relationships, are, very confusing.

@williamrogers7974

2 жыл бұрын

He looked an awful lot like Bam Bam Bigalo

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamrogers7974 Numerous things greatly explained.

I remember people used to call the football Cards the Big Red to differ them from the baseball team. Being from the KC area I remember both the Big Red and the Chiefs were horrible most of the ‘80s. In fact when both teams faced one another depending on the home team one side of the state couldn’t watch the game. It wasn’t until the Chiefs faced the Rams in the mid 90s that the whole state could watch a game between its teams. Bush stadium while a good baseball stadium was horrible for football. Arrowhead was way ahead of it. The problem for fans in St. Louis, the Dome wasn’t all that much better.

@TLOWNSU

2 жыл бұрын

The Dome was kinda shit I agree, but man do I have fond memories watching Rams games there

@DolFan316

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, you said Bush stadium 😋🤣

@davidlafleche1142

2 жыл бұрын

The cookie-cutter stadiums were slightly better-suited for football than for baseball. The Dome was designed for football; structurally, there was never anything wrong with it. Football fans were too fussy, just like baseball fans who hate Tropicana Field.

@Gage_Brumley

6 ай бұрын

@@davidlafleche1142Problem is the Dome was built in an awkward era when stadium designs were really improving. It was more similar to the RCA Dome, SilverDome and Metrodome that it was to newer domed stadiums such as Ford Field. The Alamodome had the same problem

"Willis" McGee. Lol. That's like calling Michael Jordan, Mickey Jordan or Tom Brady, Timothy Brady. Omg.

@robertlevine2827

2 жыл бұрын

To quote Gary Coleman with somewhat different intonation, "Whatchyoo talkin' about, Willis?"

@bobma6342

Жыл бұрын

Some of his teammates called him that because he reminded them of Gary Coleman. He had the mumps one time and had chubby cheeks.

Man I miss old Busch Stadium so much cooler looking than new Busch. Love the arches on the top of the stadium and the real arch just outside.

@randallfloyd4476

Жыл бұрын

same here....such a great atmosphere in that place, and the turf looked awesome.

Imagine if the football Cardinals stayed in St. Louis instead of going to Arizona. The Rams should've stayed in Los Angeles instead of heading to STL.

@Zs_Guitar

2 жыл бұрын

That’s how it should of always been. St. Louis should still have there football team Baseball team and hockey team.

Jack Clark is best remembered for his series clinching HR in game 6 of the ‘85 NLCS against LA.

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

World Series, infamous, though.

@juliansmith1951

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewdaley746 Hall of Fame baseball voice Jack Buck said Swing and a long into left adios good bye and maybe that's a winner a 3 run homer and the cardinals lead by the score of 7-5 and they may go to the world series on that one folks

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

@@juliansmith1951 Alas, ultimately, unfortunate, outcome.

@alexsweet8585

2 жыл бұрын

...and dropping the foul in game 6 of that WS.

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexsweet8585 The Cardinals quit psychologically.

I’m old enough to remember Jack Clark. His personality rating would’ve been higher if he spiked his opinion into the ground on every single play.

@CarlosMedina-vj7ot

2 жыл бұрын

He was the only guy to play in San Diego and somehow not get along with Tony Gwynn. The homer against the Dodgers in the NLCS tho….

@NJGuy1973

Жыл бұрын

Did you read about Jack Clark's bankruptcy in 1992? He owned a ridiculous number of cars.

I am not surprised that this story revolves around Jack Clark. He was a brilliant hitter,but he was also famous for his surly demeanour.

@kennethhall289

2 жыл бұрын

He wasn’t calls Jack the Ripper just for his home runs

It was so long to the NFL Cardinals in St. Louis after all this drama. X( Pretty crazy story.

Football-only guy referring to the great Willie McGee as “Willis”. C’Mon man!

As a long time SF Giants fans I am not surprised with Jack Clark's asshattery.

@chrismagruder24

2 жыл бұрын

How crazy is it that two of the biggest jerks in SF Giants history shared the same name and number?

@JJGerrard1980

2 жыл бұрын

Psshhh..like you got room to talk with Will Clark over there. One of the biggest D-bags in bb history and one of the Giants most beloved players. Between Clark, Bonds, Bonds Sr., Jeff Kent, and Leonard's douchey hr trot, it seems like it's a prerequisite for Giant's stars to be total A-holes.

@stevenking6129

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone hates scabs

@mholtebeck

2 жыл бұрын

@@JJGerrard1980 Jack Clark was always a big asshole. I don't remember Will be a giant a-hole. Jeff Kent is pretty big one, and Bonds is also. But there is no shortage of a-holes.

@nicoleknight9412

2 жыл бұрын

@@JJGerrard1980 Except for Mays, maybe

1987 was sadly the last year for the football Cards in St. Louis, ultimately culminating in a $790 million lawsuit settlement in November. On the subject of historic teams, shout out to the Montreal Expos. Also, Yugoslavia.

@kevinlarkin2696

2 жыл бұрын

I thought that settlement was for the St. LOUIS Rams

@hermmmc

2 жыл бұрын

That settlement was for the Rams. St. Louis got nothing for the Cardinals except a mercenary team for 21 years.

@TheSjuris

2 жыл бұрын

@@hermmmc neither of those teams were native to St Louis.

@hermmmc

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSjuris Let's see, of the 8 major league sports teams that play in LA, exactly 3 of them started there as expansion teams, so LA has pretty much been the king of poaching teams. Also had the football Cardinals not moved in 1960 there would've been no football Cardinals, they were doing that poorly in Chicago. As it was the city built them a new stadium in 1966 only to have a greedy owner reject it less than 2 decades later.

@TheSjuris

2 жыл бұрын

@@hermmmc same owner as the one that foolishly moved the team to a baseball city. Have to remember the league never wanted to even have another football team in Shit Louis after the Cardinals left.

Duuuude the old WWF newspaper ads lol

Love that WWF actually advertised a pose down hahaha

@DolFan316

2 жыл бұрын

1980s WWF: We need to bring in more of the female audience! 2020s WWE: We need to bring in more of the transgender audience!

As some one whose family came from the former Yugoslavia, I love that my Twins beat his Cardinals in 87.

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

Metrodome certainly possessed influence.

@tygrkhat4087

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a Cards fan, but that was a great World Series.

@danivuk2036

2 жыл бұрын

@@tygrkhat4087 yeah it was.

@reintaler6355

2 жыл бұрын

the Twins are the most clutch pro team in MN by a country mile...

@Kingpinmat

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah The Twins AND The Umpires beat the Cardinals! I remember it well! There were several but the biggest Umpire FAIL came in the 6th inning of Gm 7 when Tommy Herr was picked off 1st base with one out & the score tied 2-2! First Frank Viola balked! Then interference on Kent Hrbeck in the baseline blocking Herr from getting back to first! Last but not least Herr was clearly safe getting back! On top of that the Umpire couldn't see cause his vision was blocked so he just guessed! Tommy Herr should've been awarded 2nd base with only one out! May not have meant the game but it sure changed the momentum & strategy with 3 innings left to play (along with several other Umpire fails)! I'm not a sore loser, just hate to get cheated by officiating & then see a Twins fan gloat! I actually liked the Twins but they had help throughout that series! End of rant

“Willis” McGee? Wha choo talking ‘bout?

Jack Clark was nuts. This story doesn’t surprise me in the least…

@WaltGekko

2 жыл бұрын

Considering he filed for bankruptcy while still an active player years later, it does not surprise me.

@encycl07pedia-

2 жыл бұрын

Steroids?

@AlexDanielCPhT

2 жыл бұрын

@@encycl07pedia- Excessive car collecting, if I remember correctly.

@bobma6342

Жыл бұрын

@@encycl07pedia- if I didn't know any better I would say CTE

@encycl07pedia-

Жыл бұрын

@@bobma6342 He was a baseball player. I don't think CTE is much of an issue in baseball.

I don't miss the headaches but seeing NFL games with a dirt infield was kinda cool and I miss that.

@prestonlindbeck1197

2 жыл бұрын

All but a memory now.

@theknightswhosay

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the only team that played horizontally across the baseball diamond was the last one to get a different stadium when the Raiders moved to Vegas.

10:00. Holy shit!!! Paul Orndorff vs Ric Rude!!! I can’t wait to see that match!

‘Willis’ McGee? Come on man.

@Bruce12867

2 жыл бұрын

Probably had Willis McGahee on the brain.

@CTubeMan

2 жыл бұрын

Whatchu talkin ‘bout, Jaguar?

This is real cool. I remember taking a vacation trip with a friend in august of this year. Going to st. Louis and seeing the cards vs. Phillies and i think cards only won one in 3(4?) game series . First though went to KC and saw Royals Yankees,but i just really dont remember games,it was fun being there. Good video,good job on this,hey,i had no idea.

Pro wrestling ad on news clipping reference makes it hilarious!

@bettyboop8423

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, I found that ad pretty amusing as well

You need to do the Jack Del Rio/Otis Taylor fight.

@bobma6342

Жыл бұрын

how did that happen?

10:00 perfect advertising placement in the newspaper clipping

1987 Worldseries my Minnesota Twins defeated that 1987 St.Louis Cardinals team

A nod to number 22 on 2-22-22.

Hearing a baseball player complain about the NFL strike is seriously tone deaf. Anybody remember the 94 World Series? Fun note, Jack Clark hit a homerun in every game I saw him play live. I really liked him as a player, but he could take batting practice at a lot of places in St. Louis. Hard for an entire football team to move practice no matter if they are real players or scabs for One guy to get 30 or so extra pitches of bp.

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

The, "fans," of Montreal would have you believe they would have, won, it, and, The, 1981, World Series, and, that they only don't have a team, for, those reasons, economics, indifference to baseball itself, don't bother us, with, your facts.

@WaltGekko

2 жыл бұрын

This was seven years before that 1994 strike that in retrospect HAD to happen or MLB would have been facing far worse consequences, including being potentially shut down by courts for the 1995 and '96 seasons if MLB had caved into the players because that would have likely meant the Pirates would have folded (they were that toxic financial-wise at the time) as Pennsylvania legislators likely use legal action to block MLB from operating at all until a solution was found that kept the Pirates afloat.

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

@@WaltGekko Yeah, no, the players could have chosen to be unselfish, and, did, not, they struck of their own accord, and, were, not, forced, but, they, conveniently, leave that part out.

@LeBaseballGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Oh shit, 1987 happened before 1994??? You mean Hulk Hogan slammed Andre The Giant when he was already dead?

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

@@LeBaseballGuy What an awesome trick.

this is great content!

The baseball Cardinals lost in the World Series to the Twins

@KWCline91

2 жыл бұрын

That era of Cardinals baseball was bittersweet. On one hand, they were perhaps the best team in the National League in the 80's. On the other hand, they lost two World Series in three attempts.

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

@Kenneth Cline The 1980s, had three teams that, really, should have been, Dynasties, the, Cardinals, Mets, and, Athletics. The Cardinals, lost, Keith Hernandez, and, that just submarined them. The Mets, were, a victim of many things, The, Playoff Format, truly, stood out. The Athletics needed an earthquake, to, win, even, once, and, adding insult to injury, were, bookended by a Twins team that, would, win, the, World Series, in their only two Playoff appearances. The only, multiple, Champion, in, the 1980s, were, the Dodgers, and, Toronto, was, good, for, three years, but, would, win, two, straight, World Series.

I remember Bidwell whining about just wanting a bigger stadium so the Cardinals could compete with other teams. He was such a cheapskate and terrible owner. He couldn't even fill Busch Memorial on a regular basis.

I lived in Tempe, AZ for 18 months … Phoenix is indeed a different city.

@Rockhound6165

2 жыл бұрын

So is Irving, by quite a distance, but they still say the Cowboys are in Dallas.

@mrg8581

2 жыл бұрын

Detroit Lions used to play their games at the Silverdome in Pontiac.

The 12 man royal rumble and Mr. Wonderful vs Ravishing Rick Rude looked like a good WWF house Show card.

What's the music in this video?

Love the wrestling card ad on that Stallings clipping

@petecapravos3044

2 жыл бұрын

I went to a few WWF shows at the old Veterans Coliseum back in the mid to late 1980's. Some good and loud crowds!

@DolFan316

2 жыл бұрын

That was the best part of the video 😁 Change my mind.

I can't imagine how confusing this would be lol. Like if the Steelers were still called the Pirates as well.

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

The, Pirates, made, "A, Deal, With, The, Devil," for, 1960, 1971, and, 1979, and, "The, Devil's," been, collecting, ever, since.

@SteelerFanInRI

2 жыл бұрын

Or if the San Francisco Giants decided to stay in New York

@stevenbauer4799

2 жыл бұрын

Could have had two royals in kc at one time as well.

@kurttoy5035

2 жыл бұрын

Or if the Brooklyn baseball Dodgers hadn't moved to LA and the football Brooklyn Dodgers were still in operation.

@pronkb000

2 жыл бұрын

There were a ton of MLB/NFL crossover nicknames up until about the 1940's. The Cardinals were the last holdout.

I'm a Red Sox fan. My last memory of Jack Clark was him stealing money and playing like crap in his last season.

@MikeHL78

2 жыл бұрын

yesssssss. He was a waste of a contract by then.

@colebarrick7973

2 жыл бұрын

I just had a beer with Jack this past weekend. At my bosses in Central mo

@akbarlebowitz8151

2 жыл бұрын

And declared bankruptcy later.

@jmad627

2 жыл бұрын

As a Yankee fan I almost remember him playing for us…lol!!

@Coldpack13

Жыл бұрын

Say what you want about Clark, but you can’t deny he was one of the a top power hitters of his playing time. Plus he didn’t need any juice to accomplish his numbers.

It was the last season that the football Cardinals played in St. Louis

Twitter blue checks would have a field day with Jack Clark today.

On a Different note, Look at that WWF flyer looks like a Saturday Nites Main Event card..

In 1987, the baseball St. Louis Cardinals went to the World Series, but lost to the Minnesota Twins in seven games. The football Cardinals had a disappointing season, and ended up moving to Arizona. From 1960-87, St. Louis had both the baseball and football Cardinals; people called the football Cardinals Big Red to differentiate it from the baseball team. Both Cardinals used the original Busch Stadium (1960-65) and Busch Memorial Stadium (1966-87).

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

Losing Keith Hernandez, indefensible.

@marcus813

2 жыл бұрын

It makes me even more disappointed that my Buccaneers blew a big lead to Big Red at Busch Memorial Stadium in '87. I wish I forgot that I watched that game.

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcus813 Disappointing, though, completely, unsurprising.

I remember the Redskins vs Cardinals scab game. A WR for the Redskins set the game franchise record for receiving yards. Like 222 yards.

@hughgurney8686

2 жыл бұрын

Anthony Allen I think he was. Thought it was more like 285yds and ranks amongst the highest receiving totals ever - but it was long time ago and haven't looked at the NFL Record and Fact book in years. Think Jerry Rice only just surpassed him with a 290yd game

@appleiphone69

2 жыл бұрын

@@hughgurney8686 yeah that is the guy. I did not bother looking it up when I first posted.

@mgb4692

2 жыл бұрын

Stephone Paige had the single game mark in the 80s with 309 against the Chargers in the 85 finale before it was broken by Flipper Anderson (336) four seasons later--which still stands today Megatron came close in 2013 but finished seven yards off. Rice's 289 yard game was in 95 on MNF against the Vikings

LOL, as soon as you said a Cardinals player was threatening to kill scab players, I said, must be Jack Clark. Hahaha

2:16 The good ole days.

Jack Clark: *angry xenophobic rant* Gene Stallings: “I need to talk to your Manager.” Jack Clark: “Ok Karen…”

@petecapravos3044

2 жыл бұрын

Clark was the Karen, a big drama queen with an even bigger ego.

A bit off topic, but I'm stuck by the similarity between Clarks stance and swing and Giancarlo Stanton's. Having seen Stanton swing in person and on TV at home, his swing seems so unorthodox, it's a surprise to find a comparable swing so many years earlier from Clark.

@davidlafleche1142

2 жыл бұрын

I loved Carl Yastrzemski's vicious uppercut swing, holding the bat way over his head, then swinging up. Unfortunately, Yastrzemski injured his left shoulder around 1970, and never had the same power after that.

OP, the Cardinals had WAY MORE than one week to go on September 9th in 1987.

So did the two teams really hate each other, as it said in the video description, or did Clark merely hate the football scab players?

@Boogaboioringale

2 жыл бұрын

It was just Clark.

@mholtebeck

2 жыл бұрын

@@Boogaboioringale And Jack Clark hated everybody.

The were replacement players. Please refrain from using the highly inflammitory "s" word. That's very very offensive to many people.

What's that with the blur at 4:34?

@OfficialJaguarGator9

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure. Someone else pointed that out and I don’t know why it happened because it wasn’t there when I exported. Was supposed to say “the race was really close”

@DolFan316

2 жыл бұрын

@@OfficialJaguarGator9 I'll let it pass. This time. 😋

@CTubeMan

2 жыл бұрын

@@DolFan316 Such mercy.

So, did Yugoslavia ever get its football players back?

Willis McGee? WTH? How about John Montana? LOL -- My man you do a good job but, for the love of God, have a someone proofread your scripts. HOWEVERRRR....

I remember seeing that Washington won the game despite (or because?) they didn't have a single NFL veteran cross the picket line while the Cardinals had some of their regular starters. There were roughly 27,000 fans at RFK Stadium and many of them were chanting, "Stay on strike! Stay on strike!" Of course, there was also the huge upset two weeks later on Monday Night Football when Washington upset a veteran-laden Cowboys team 13-7.

@stevenbauer4799

2 жыл бұрын

That was planned. Gibbs and skins knew there would be a strike and put together the best scab team possible. Won the s b too.

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

That team, was, a total fraud, they didn't play the, 13-2, 49ers, would miss the Playoffs, completely, the next two years, and, only, reached, the, SB, because, of, "The, Drop."

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

@steven bauer Only, because, everything broke right, the next two seasons proved what a total fraud they, were.

@stevenbauer4799

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewdaley746 well if niners get to s b they whoop the broncos again. And what if nelson doesn't drop that pass? Then perenniel chokers the vikes and broncos play in the s b.

@stevenbauer4799

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewdaley746 yep. A lot went right for '87 twins. That's for sure.

JG9: “I refuse to acknowledge that Tempe and Phoenix are the same city.” The Coyotes: [nervous sideways glances]

Great video. I was unaware of all this. And as a Mets fan, I really hated those ‘80s Cardinals teams.

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

Look at it this way, when they, stupidly, gave away Keith Hernandez, they, were, finished, winning.

@F40PH-2CAT

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewdaley746 they could have won in 1985 if Andujar didn't have a nervous breakdown on national television. Or if Don Denkinger had retired in 1984.

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

@F40PH-2CAT If Keith Hernandez, were, there, it, never, reaches, a, Game Seven, period.

@williamwilkinson381

2 жыл бұрын

@Rich ....boo hoo 😭 The mets are a 2nd rate team even their own city ... 😆

@williamwilkinson381

2 жыл бұрын

@@F40PH-2CAT ..they alao should have have win the series in 87 if the Twins didn't cheat by turning on the air vents in the Dome while the home team batted ...

I remember that ‘87 strike. There was a lot of anger directed at the scabs, not just from Jack Clark. It got ugly at times. The scab games were crazy, a comedy of errors. There were pictures of Joe Montana in the papers, laughing and relaxing in the midst of the strike. Joe always knew how to keep his cool and wait for the drama to pass. I think the strike only lasted 4 games.

@tygrkhat4087

2 жыл бұрын

Correct. The first game after the strike was called was cancelled, then the next three were played with replacement players. IIRC, Washington was the only team that did not have a player break the picket line.

@petecapravos3044

2 жыл бұрын

@@tygrkhat4087 They also won all three replacement games.

@DolFan316

2 жыл бұрын

Except that Montana actually crossed the picket line along with several other Hall Of Famers. But I'm sure he did it in a cool way.

@mgb4692

2 жыл бұрын

The final week was the greatest: Steve Largent totally obliterated the Lions "scab-ondary" and would have had well over 300 yards if he had played the fourth quarter. The rest of the Giants team was trying to get LT's autograph half an hour before their game against the Bills (that they lost 6-3) And the above-mentioned Redskins upset of the Cowboys on MNF that over a decade later inspired The Replacements.

@tygrkhat4087

2 жыл бұрын

@@mgb4692 Again, IIRC, both Marv Levy and Bill Parcells said it was the worst game they were ever involved in.

Whitey Herzog’s Cardinals teams in the 1980s were incredible. 3 World Series appearances in 1982 beating the Brewers (I think?), 1985 losing to the Royals, and in 1987 losing to the Twins. All of this coming from a diehard Reds fan.

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

1982, was, the Brewers, Paul Molitor, and, Robin Yount, they, were, their best opponent, but, they lucked out, because, the, NLCS, was, best-of-five, against a fluky Braves team, and, they avoided, cross-country, travel in the World Series, with, home-field-advantage, and, Keith Hernandez, they got rid of him, played California teams, and, needed to go on the road, twice, Dynasty, thwarted.

@BrianRetro

2 жыл бұрын

The ironic thing was that all three of those series went seven games.

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

@@BrianRetro Yeah, and, the Pirates won, Game Seven, on the road in, 1979, in, 1982, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1991, 1997, 2001, 2002, and, 2011, the home team won, 2014, finally, ended the streak, indeed, a new one began, as, it, 2016, 2017, and, 2019, were, all won by the road team.

I know this is a football/NFL channel but I was waiting for the mention of who the baseball-Cardinals faced & ultimately lost to in the World Series that year, but the mention never came. Had it been mentioned however, it would've been that they faced the Minnesota Twins in the Series, who ended up winning their very first championship in what was a great 7-game series! It's understandable though, considering the video was not about them or even really about baseball in general, just about a really good baseball player who got some bad luck at the absolute worst time he could've gotten it, and his inability to deal with it in a professional manner. Love these videos & I appreciate every one of them!

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

Great, for, terrible reasons.

@big8dog887

2 жыл бұрын

The first World Series where the home team won every game. The second one was 4 years later and also involved the Twins in the Metrodome with the Homer Hankies.

@williamwilkinson381

2 жыл бұрын

The twins only won because they cheated...they turned the air vents in while the home team batted then turned off when the Cards were at bat .... I hated that dome laughed my butt off when the roof caved in with snow 😆😆😆😆😆

@epholson97

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamwilkinson381 - that's a joke right? You're not actually serious about that "cheating" aspect of your comment are you? That's a long time to hold onto your hatred for a building...

PAUL ORNDORFF VS RICK RUDD!?! AWWWRIGHT!!!

Willis McGee? Just one more thing. Jack Clark was good at first base and fit in well for that team. I would not state him as the 3rd MVP of that team. I would put Herr, Cox, and Pendleton over Clark in 87.

Your old school videos are great. 👍

I'm sorry, but at (10:00), I can NOT stop focusing on and trying to read about the WWF wrestling match between Ric Rude and Mr. Wonderful Paul Orndorf! I'm in need of Adderall...

@Rockhound6165

2 жыл бұрын

Look at the rest of the card as well. Pretty good matches for that era. Bundy vs Steamboat, Orton vs Muraco(the original Rock), One Man Gang vs JYD, Bulldogs vs Demolition.

@DillonDigitalVideo

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rockhound6165 ~ Yeah man, good stuff!

@mgb4692

2 жыл бұрын

Also no doubt seven year old Randy was there watching dad

I'm more interested in the fact that the WWF held a Royal Rumble before the official "first" one in 1988.

but,but, who won the pose down- Orndorff or Rude ?? (9:54)

Between JG9 and Jon Bois, plenty of interesting 87 strike stories on yt

In 1975 Shea Stadium was a busy place they had the Mets Jets Yankees and Giants

@robertperry8392

2 жыл бұрын

The Giants actually played a couple of Saturday games that year on 10/25 & 11/1.

There was a reason why Jack Clark was nicknamed "the ripper"! After the automatic tarp rolled up on Vince Coleman's ankle in 1985, depriving the Cardinals of one of their best players in the World Series, the loss of Clark in '87 was hard to take.

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

Their best player, was, actually, Keith Hernandez, their, moronically, indefensible, decision cost them, one, Championship, for, sure, and, possibly, two.

I am a Twins fan since I do live in Minnesota, but do you think the 87 WS would have bern different if Clark was available for that 4-3 Series loss by the Cardinals.

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

Unsure, but, I think the Mets would have stopped them, just, unquestionably.

@Rockhound6165

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think it would have mattered because STL's pitching killed them in that series. When you're giving up 10, 8, and 11 runs in a World Series game Babe Ruth isn't going to save you.

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

@Rockhound6165 The Mets had a, better, offense, and, their pitching hadn't fallen off, yet, the Twins sure lucked out, no question.

@silyrabittrxr4kids5

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewdaley746 If the Twins didn't have homefield the Mets or any N.L. team would've struggled at the Dome. The Twins didn't lose a W.S. home game in 87 or 91, however, they didn't win a single W.S. road game either.

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

@@silyrabittrxr4kids5 Yeah, but, the Cardinals, were, hitless wonders, with, virtually, no power, who relied, on, speed, and, adequate, pitching, the Mets took a team's heart, by, clobbering them, early, and/or, sticking around, late.

9:56 Unrelated note, that's an ad for the first-ever Royal Rumble ever done; an experiment that was won by the One Man Gang. People in attendance said it was one of the worst things they ever saw, so the concept required additional tuning. On topic, I find your channel quite fascinating. Keep up the good work.

Yugoslavia just catching strays 🤣

A pose down between Rick Rude and Paul Orndorff. Now thats gonna put some butts in seats.

@pronkb000

2 жыл бұрын

Orndorff had just turned babyface again because...Bobby Heenan said that Rick Rude had a better body than he did. After that legendary turn and run against Hulk Hogan throughout 1986, what a horrible, anticlimactic way to make Orndorff back into a good guy.

@DolFan316

2 жыл бұрын

In today's world, absolutely.

The Ripper took Niedenfuer deep and that will be remembered forever

?!?WILLIS!?! McGee - WRONG AGAIN, AS USUAL...

Pretty sure the Yugoslavia thing was a joke. See back in the 80s, in addition to football and baseball being played in the same stadiums, people also had a sense of humor even when they were pissed off.

@DolFan316

2 жыл бұрын

Except that there's absolutely nothing about jack Clark in this video to even remotely suggest he has a sense of humor at all.

@urbanleftbehind

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe it was a wise self-censor instead of saying north or east st. Louis or worse. Also could have been the O line against the D line were you might see some -ski, - ich and -ak last names.

The AFC Central teams were all roommates with an mlb team Cincinnati Bengals with Cincinnati Reds, Cleveland Browns with Cleveland Indians, Houston Oilers with Houston Astros and Pittsburgh Steelers with Pittsburgh Pirates

@Peakfreud

2 жыл бұрын

🤯 I never knew that..

@Peakfreud

2 жыл бұрын

All of those teams make sense, Two Ohio Team, and Pittsburgh is fair But Houston? Who decide to put Houston in there.

@mgb4692

2 жыл бұрын

Houston was the odd team in the 1966-69 AFL East, so they were shuttled to the new AFC Central along with the second expansion team the Bengals--the odd team in the 1968-69 West. With the Steelers and Browns coming over from the NFL, the Oilers were still the odd team (the only one in the CT zone) but they made it work.

@terraceavery4125

2 жыл бұрын

Did they all get along? I know now the St. Louis teams didn’t.

Early in the strike in Kansas City, LB Dino Hackett and TE Paul Coffman jokingly waved unloaded shotguns while proclaiming "We're looking for Scabs" as the replacement players arrived for practice. They said it was in jest, but there were a number of ugly incidents with regular players hanging around the team facilities as replacements were being brought in.

@mgb4692

2 жыл бұрын

Funny thing about it is Paul's son Chase ended up with the Seahawks at the end of the 2015 regular season, who with all their injuries could have been deemed a replacement team themselves.

@stevenking6129

2 жыл бұрын

Scabs are scabs.

@vinyllpreviews9462

2 жыл бұрын

NFL players literally had a picket line.

@bobma6342

Жыл бұрын

Imagine that today?

@adrianfung

7 ай бұрын

I mean Gilbert Arenas and Javaris Crittenton brought a combined 5 guns to their locker room...

Not a baseball Cardinals fan; however, Whitey was a class act throughout his baseball career and throughout his entire life. (In his younger days, he resembled the late actor Brian Keith, IMHO.) Jack Clark's ego and intensity were his undoing. He was a terrific baseball talent with an astoundingly high baseball acumen and baseball IQ. But he had all the personality of sandpaper. And his innate selfishness was a turn-off wherever he played. IMHO, Clark should've kept his nose out of the football Cards' business and simply vented privately to Whitey. That would've been the best way for Clark to deal with his frustrations.

Neat little cultural artifact at 9:49 with the newspaper advertising the concept match for what would become the WWF Royal Rumble.

Jack Clark did have a very impressive season in 1987, certainly, but a function of his MLB-leading walks total was the team he was on. He was the one and only power hitter the Cardinals had -- the one player in their lineup who was a realistic threat to take you deep if you threw him a meatball. Even when he wasn't being walked intentionally, pitchers were far less willing to challenge him with something in the heart of the strike zone than anybody else in the lineup.

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, funny thing, though, Ozzie Smith finished second, in, the, MVP, voting to Andre Dawson, whose team finished dead last, despite, his 49, HRs, Ozzie Smith hit, zero HRs, and, didn't get, triple-digit, HRs, in, a, 19-year, career, besides, the fact that he, was, a, show-off, his career batting average, was, so, pathetic, that, I don't care, how, many, Gold Gloves, he won, he couldn't hit the side of a barn, and, lost his job to Royce Clayton, he, never, belonged, in, MLB, much less, the, HOF, worse, if Andre Dawson played only one more season, he would have retired, a, Champion.

Off topic, but the original Astro Turf was the worst thing ever to happen to sports. Just a carpet in many sections sewn together waiting to burst a seam and end a career. Not to mention the 'cushion' under the green stuff deteriorated over time and the players were essentially playing on asphalt. Yeah, that had to be fun.

miss the baseball/football stadium im wondering if jack ever said sorry

Jack Clark was way out of line and thank goodness Gene Stallings checked him. Also, thanks for acknowledging that Tempe and Phoenix aren't one and the same, especially considering that the football club has never hosted a game in Phoenix despite using the city as its geographic identifier for its first few years in the Valley of the Sun.

@Rockhound6165

2 жыл бұрын

Stop whining. The Giants and Jets play in NJ but still go by NY so while your town is getting dissed, my entire state is getting dissed.

@marcus813

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rockhound6165 That's "whining" to you? I only told the truth. Don't use your state's omission from the NYC-area NFL clubs' names as some excuse to come at me all crazy.

@Rockhound6165

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcus813 it is whining because I can throw a rock from Tempe to Phoenix. There's little difference. Meanwhile I gotta drive an hour up the turnpike and cross a state line to get to NY.

@marcus813

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rockhound6165 The Meadowlands are closer to Midtown Manhattan than Tempe is to downtown Phoenix, so it's not that deep for you to come at me like the way you did and you're the one whining here, not me. All I did was state facts and nothing more and I said what I said, PERIODT.

@DolFan316

2 жыл бұрын

Stallings checked and wrecked him, and should've decked him.

4:34; Uh, what happened there?

@OfficialJaguarGator9

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a good question. Not sure why it cut out midway through cause it didn’t do that when I exported the file. Was supposed to say “this race was getting close”

If Orange County is "LA" and "SoCal", then Tempe sure as he'll is Phoenix. Just as New Jersey is New York's sewage treatment facility.

Whatcho talkin' 'bout with 'Willis'?

9:48, Huh, WWF ad

I remember Jack Clark was kind of a hot head.

Yeah, but what about that pose down between Mr. Wonderful and Rick Rude?

@DolFan316

2 жыл бұрын

IKR? OJG9 needs to do another video just on that!

@mgb4692

2 жыл бұрын

Leading into Rude's posedown against the Warrior at the first PPV Rumble, rekindling their World Class feud. But we got Brian Zane for that

Has any city ever had multiple teams with the same name?

@mkendra29

2 жыл бұрын

New York Giants had both from 1925-1957, but also the Brooklyn Dodgers were in both from 1930-1943. The Brooklyn football eam was eventually merged into an AAFC team called the Yanks... and for a short time in the early '50's they had the Yanks and Yankees.

Funny this video came out now, while MLB is in a work stoppage.

@marcus813

2 жыл бұрын

I have a hunch that this wasn't a coincidence.

MLB needs to see the opening of this video

No need to say that Phoenix and Tempe are the sane place because as a Phoenician, we doing. Are they part of the “Phoenix metro area”? Yes. But Tempe is Tempe and not Phoenix.

"Willis" McGee🙄? Smh

Gene Stallings? I've heard of him.

And baseball is still king in St.Louis, not even the GSOT could unseat them as king.

@matthewdaley746

2 жыл бұрын

It's because they couldn't strangle Tom Brady in the womb, a, second, SB, they, probably, are, still there, if the Blues lose, Game Seven, in 2019, they move, eventually, their history, was, littered, with, building, Dynasties, for, other teams, while, getting bags of pucks, in return.

Twins sent home clark crying that season anyway so the extra practice didn't mean nothing

I don't think it's that big of a deal. I seriously doubt Jack would've gone through with his threat. He was trying to get healthy with the season and a possible championship on the line. He was frustrated, any competitor would be. We've all said stupid things in the heat of the moment. Shoot, Jack might've even had a couple beers in him when he made the threat. Again, I don't think he ever really intended to go through with it.