This was really god damn good. Fivepointvids & UTree need to see this.

@PenguinNote67

4 ай бұрын

Tom Grossi, Scooter. Brandon Perna, and others as well

It’s sad and all, but I still find it funny that St. Louis still has more recent SB title than San Francisco and Dallas.

@ishmaelshackleford

4 ай бұрын

as arizona cardnals fan that hit hard

@MrDlt123

4 ай бұрын

Twenty three years ago is more recent but not 'recent.' Besides, Dallas and San Fran are still some of the profitable and popular sports teams in the world, while Saint Louis cant even keep a team. 😅

@BroadswordMedia

3 ай бұрын

The 49ers came so close this year. Damn it! Although funny enough it shouldn't even count as an SF title if they won since they play in Santa Clara which is 45 minutes to an hour south of SF and really should be a San Jose title since Santa Clara is literally right next to San Jose.

@michaelleroy9281

Ай бұрын

Whooopieee 🎉 just one 😂

@tharwab

23 күн бұрын

@@MrDlt123Looks like somebody’s salty their franchise sucks haha

If nothing else, St. Louis has the Battlehawks.

@ericletford1178

4 ай бұрын

And They Draw better than any team in that league that should tell the NFL something

@gregbaldwin5144

4 ай бұрын

Do you hear yourself talking??? You are pumped over the "battlehawks" lol! I'm crying 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@elijahpatterson2596

4 ай бұрын

@@gregbaldwin5144 Yeah, I'm pumped over the BattleHawks, because I love football and I want spring football to succeed. But, then again, if I didn't love spring football, I'd be crying too, so I understand your reaction.

@jmjones7897

3 ай бұрын

We've got Luther Burden and Brady Cook

@ajchristlieb

3 ай бұрын

@@gregbaldwin5144 Asshole

St. Louisan here--this is so true. And it's worth noting that it's not just the NFL. We've lost a baseball team (the Baltimore Orioles were once the St. Louis Browns) and an NBA team (the Atlanta Hawks used to be in St. Louis).

@brianarbenz1329

4 ай бұрын

I grew up a baseball Cardinals fan, and liked the football Cardinals too. (I lived nowhere near St.Louis, I just liked your teams). I have wondered why there hasn’t been a pro basketball team in St. Louis since the ABA’s Spirits. And no college in St. Louis has ever been prominent in basketball, despite the city being host to the Final 4 umteen times.

@Rockhound6165

2 ай бұрын

The Browns had to move. They weren't drawing flies and only had 1 pennant. Moving to Baltimore was the best thing that ever happened to them.

@brianarbenz1329

2 ай бұрын

Interesting -- every team named the Browns ends up moving to Baltimore!

@Rockhound6165

2 ай бұрын

@@brianarbenz1329 that's actually a good point.

@jakrispyballs69

26 күн бұрын

We used to have a MLS team before the current one and both the MLS team and the NBA team won a championship

I remember as kid watching the St. Louis Cardinals play and they were in the NFC East back then. I lived in South Florida and was a Dolphin fan but I would always pull for the Cardinals, and Otis Anderson too he was a Hurricane in his college days. Memories of Jim Hart and Neil Lomax.

I was born in 1998 and I grew up a Saint Louis Rams fan, but when they moved back to Los Angeles in 2016, they are dead to me.

Surprised you didn't mention Super Bowl 53 when the Rams failed to avenge their loss to the Patriots, in one of the lowest scoring Super Bowls in the modern era

@PenguinNote67

4 ай бұрын

That Super Bowl was forgettable

@someperson3883

4 ай бұрын

The refs gave the Rams a spot in that game. No wonder they sucked

@gbalph4

4 ай бұрын

I force myself to forget that game.

@someperson3883

4 ай бұрын

@@gbalph4 I just say the Saints won 28-3

@gbalph4

4 ай бұрын

@@someperson3883 yeah we won 56 anyways and at home

I thought this was a Urinating Tree video at first from the thumbnail, but I was pleasantly suprised by how well constructed this video was It's criminal of how many subs you have, only being 600, hoping you find more success in the future!

@PenguinNote67

4 ай бұрын

Thanks. And uh something something THA STILLERS ARE GOING TO THE SUPAH BAWL

@Fkin176

4 ай бұрын

@@PenguinNote67 the stillers always go to the super bowl, they just gotta Buy tickets to it

@SortaNonymous

4 ай бұрын

​@@PenguinNote67PITTSBURGH'S GAHNTA DA SU-Oh wait, the Super Bowl is already over. Dang it :(

@nickfury5536

4 ай бұрын

​@@SortaNonymousMaybe next year

@calebkent6706

4 ай бұрын

@@PenguinNote67awesome to see a fellow urinatingtree fan

Relocation only hurts the fans

@inkwetrust-nq1sj

4 ай бұрын

we pretty happy out in az😊

@cranjismcbasketball1638

18 күн бұрын

​@inkwetrust-nq1sj are you though? Lol

Not a Rams fan, but I maintain that moving away from their 2000's era uniforms was a huge mistake. Those unis was lit, their current one's suck ass.

@Kk_1100

4 ай бұрын

Agree. Their current unis suck. The combo of gold and blue was nice and different

@blahstedd

4 ай бұрын

as a Rams fan, I agree. We had an amazing logo and uniforms, then they ruined it because they wanted that modern LA look.

@footsteps2179

4 ай бұрын

The logo was one of the best in all of sports, along with the colors. Good thing Stan got rid of it to fit into his corporate LA look

@therhinoization5

3 ай бұрын

always an oldhead complaining about the new

@Kk_1100

3 ай бұрын

@@therhinoization5 its just a fact that the new shades of yellow and blue are ugly af.

The Rams also made it to the NFC Championship Game in 1985, where they got shut out by the Bears

@brandedmcgowan9414

4 ай бұрын

As the Los Angeles Rams before they move in 1994

@JeffWiersma

4 ай бұрын

@@brandedmcgowan9414 right, but that’s the era the narrator was talking about when I made the comment.

@brandedmcgowan9414

4 ай бұрын

@@JeffWiersma right on👍🏿

St Louis needs its own team that was birthed here. The Cardinals and Rams were teams that weren't ours, we were "foster parents" whose job was to keep those teams temporarily.

@LdyVder

28 күн бұрын

Correct, Cardinals are the oldest NFL team and started in Chicago. Rams started in Cleveland before moving to Los Angeles. But I will say this. St. Louis is a baseball city not a football city. I moved from Topeka, KS to Jacksonville, FL in the summer of 2000. Rams had just won the Super Bowl that January and I saw more Cardinals and Blues stickers on cars than I did the Rams when I drove through St. Louis during dinner rush hour traffic.

@MrManfly

9 күн бұрын

@@LdyVder They need a new stadium there and just keep the name "Battlehawks" and the teams current cool colors and all will be well !!

I loved that the Cardinals were both the football and baseball team of St. Louis when i was growing up.

The Patriots were in negotiation too when Kraft took over

I moved to St Louis in 94, and left in 97. I was a huge Rams fan, and remained a fan until they left. What I never understood, the stadium was LESS than 20 years old when the team bolted. Why, what was wrong with the stadium, or was it all Stan Donkey being a jackass just wanting more money?

@duckman6422

3 ай бұрын

The stadium wasn't very great even being as new as it was, but that was about 25% of the REAL reason they left, the other 75% is Kroenke being the devil incarnate

Why no one talk about Georgia Frontiere and her nonsene

@Scott-vk4jv

4 ай бұрын

Exactly. She was a a terrible person. Became an NFL owner by spreading.

@gbalph4

4 ай бұрын

@@Scott-vk4jv she murdered Rosenbloom

Just started watching, so happy it popped up in my recommended because this sounds interesting asf. This topic is never brought up enough.

Great video! As a St. Louisan and former diehard Rams fan I feel your pain. If the XFL/UFL ever folds I like to dream that the owners somehow make a deal with the NFL to have the Battlehawks join as an expansion team or something

There was once the Cardinals. There was once the Rams. Now, the kaw is law.

@CoachKendoSlice

4 ай бұрын

KA KAW

Thank you to our host. Masterfully done. Learned a lot

St. Louis should never give another dollar to the NFL.

Love the Blues song in the beginning and ending! My fave hockey team!!!! I even play as them on NHL 95 on SNES! LOL

Just a reminder St. Louis has more superbowls and NBA championships than Phoenix, Atlanta, Charlotte, New Orleans and a few more.

@myleslong5584

4 ай бұрын

But,those cities still have NFL and/or NBA teams that are currently active while St. Louis has been whittled down to the MLB Cardinals and the NHL Blues. The other cities that you listed,at least,still have a chance at acquiring championship status in professional football or basketball. The days of NBA and ESPECIALLY NFL affiliations in St. Louis are a thing of the past. Unfortunately,like many other Midwestern American cities,St. Louis is on life-support and will never attain the popular status it once enjoyed,historically. Nothing wrong with having a little bit of local pride,however.

@jamest4659

4 ай бұрын

@@myleslong5584 I agree with you. I live in Southern Ill. Most people around here think of St. Louis as "their" city. The baseball Cardinals are very popular. But St. Louis has lost a lot of population and it has a terrible crime problem. Yes, I think St. Louis's glory days are over.

@coreylevine8095

3 ай бұрын

I wouldn't put Minneapolis in there before 1960

@chicagodude8888

3 ай бұрын

@@coreylevine8095 Good call. I’ll edit.

@jamesmziegler

12 күн бұрын

All St. Louis has left are the baseball Cardinals and the Blues, and they both suck.

Fantastic video, I was shocked you only have 700 subscribers. Excited to watch more of your content.

I hope the rams will go 0-17 next year

As someone who grew up near Oakland I’m sorry no city deserves to have their team leave twice

This is a great video! What sucks is my family and I always talk about how we miss the Stl rams. I actually threw away all my Rams stuff when they moved.

@cardsfan1590

4 ай бұрын

Yep me and my dad had season tickets from there first year till they left,I turned most of my gear into work clothes.

@0XxKabalxX0

4 ай бұрын

Even though they had losing seasons I still stuck with them and watch religiously. Oh well, maybe in an alternate dimension they stayed in STL. @@cardsfan1590

@brettshepherd5240

4 ай бұрын

I don't blame you.......st louis gear is worthless

One of the best informative videos I've ever seen

Thank you for saying REDSKINS. It's what the team was known as prior to 2020.

@thesuperostrich

4 ай бұрын

Real nfl fans will always call them that

Screw the NFL in St. Louis! I don't want an NFL team in St. Louis.

Great video, very informative and well researched. I learned something new about both NFL teams that called St. Louis home for a time.

St. Louis has been treated horribly by the NFL. I could use stronger words but I would get banned.

Racine is a street in Chicago. The Maroon or Cardinal Red uniforms were hand me downs from University of Chicago.

@coreylevine8095

4 ай бұрын

The Cardinals i understand this was founded by a Racist street gangs in Chicago Reagan Colt

The Rams were in LA since the '50's and the Owner Carrol Rosenbloom died mysteriously, in 5ft of water; his side piece a Las Vegas Showgirl (Georgia Frontiere) took control of the Team and moved them to her Hometown of St Louis after running the Franchise into the ground in Anaheim. Allegedly, she received over $200M under the table.

@ChillydontCap

4 ай бұрын

A wife cant be a "side piece". You sound mad. Go get some help.

@JoeErhart

21 күн бұрын

Rams moved to L.A. in 1946

Unfortunately I haven't had much time to follow your content, that said, great video, keep it up :)

St. Louis should have gotten an expansion team over Jacksonville

We are bigger than more than half the cities in the NFL and can never get a team…it’s bullshit… -San Antonio

Wait this isnt Tree............yet still just as entertaining. Get the enthusiasm up a bit and you really got something here man

St. Louis deserves a expansion team .

@Becauseimme

3 ай бұрын

They deserve to be where they are, hosting minor league football.

Great content bro. We gotta get you more subscribers. 👏🏿💯

Glad this video came my way great stuff and yeah crazy that between the cardinals and rams there was only like 8 successful seasons in St Louis. Also weird that I wish the rams never switched uniforms but also thought the navy gold and white was a better look. I also always move Washington to STL in madden

@paulgodbey304

4 ай бұрын

As a Rams fan from the time I was young (1960's, 1970's), I am biased about the lighter, royal blue like uniforms from my childhood. Believe me, I understand the hurt of the Rams moving. 1994 and 1995 were not a good time for me. By the time the Rams came home, I was a Patriots and Packers fan and didn't care a lot about it.

@larryloveless2967

4 ай бұрын

That really is about it. The Rams were the best and worst of times for NFL football in St. Louis. I would say 4 very good seasons from the Rams, 3 years of Don Coryell Big Red teams in the 1970s, and 2 or 3 teams in the 1960s the best. The Big Red mainly mediocre.and there was not a playoff for most of the 1960s unless there was a tie for first place so never a playoff win. The 1964 playoff win he mentions of the Cardinals over Green Bay was actually only a short lived playoff games of runner-ups Green Bay in the West and St. Louis in the East with no advavcement. I followed it all and as seen by the Battle Hawks attendance wish St. Louis would get an expansion team but like he says owners committed to the region for private invesment like just happened for the new soccer stadium and team is key. It did make sense Stan Kroenke would want the much larger TV market of L.A.. . It is obvious seeing what has been happening for the Dodgers.

I haven't watched a nfl game since the Rams left 8 years ago. I refuse to watch a nfl game unless a team calls St Louis home and the stupid chiefs don't represent St Louis. The Battlehawks are my team and the entire nfl can suck it

A little context to the Cardinals moving to Phoenix: the Eagles were expected to move there in 1985. It was pretty much a done deal. But owner Leonard Tose sold the team under the agreement that they stayed in Philly.

cool to learn some of the history of the city. thanks!

Why is it a city’s and/or state’s responsibility to build these billion dollar corporations the buildings they do business in? And no one say anything about revenue or jobs these corporations create, because that is just plain wrong. No way in hell should one tax dollar ever be given to any corporation, but especially ones that are part of the richest union of corporations in the country. (That’s what a sports league is) Especially since every major sports union of corporations has banned community ownership such as the most successful organization has. (The Packers have won the most nfl championships) But all this video was was a history of the cardinals and the rams. Where was the betrayal? That they moved after moving from other cities? But I am glad to hear you hate the Rams- same reason I am no longer a raider fan. The davises have been more interested in moving than winning.

As a fellow St.louisin, it is a shame that the Rams left. But i was never really a fan of them. Became a fan of the AZ Cardinals during the Kurt Warner run to the super bowl era as well because of my dad owning a bunch of old cardinals stuff from the 70s. Great video by the way. Popped up in my recommendation and thought it looked interesting.

Actually, the first St. Louis NFL team was when the Cincinnati Reds season got suspended. The St. Louis Gunners were brought up to NFL status after that for just one season in 1934 and then just moved to another league.

@andrewmitchell1565

4 ай бұрын

The St. Louis All Stars of 1923 are the first NFL team from St Louis, finishing 1-4-2 and eventually folding due to financial losses.

Well made video. I had some issues with your microphone especially since I had headphones on and I could hear your lips move sometimes before you speak, but this was overall a solid video. I also found it hilarious how the only pic you used of the old LA Rams owner has someone with a Saints sweater nearby him. lol

People should have had their PSL refunded when the Rams left

You didn’t mention the first major league team (AFL/NFL). From 1931-1940, the Saint Louis Gunners played in Saint Louis. They were in both the NFL and AFL during their years in Saint Louis. When they were purchased in 1940, they were moved and merged with the Cleveland Rams, with the former Gunners players now playing as a part of the Rams. When Georgia brought the Rams Saint Louis, it was not only a homecoming for her, but also a sort of homecoming for the Rams as well.

7:31 National car Rental Field would be a lot happier for the new NFL team, a new MLR Team and UFL’s Battlehawks for St. Louis, Missouri

As a Los Angeles Rams fan I get your anger. I know it’s hard not only watching them win a Super Bowl at their home stadium, but be rewarded with large concerts and major international sporting events. I do like SoFi though. If I do ever visit St. Louis and wear Rams gear will there be issues? (it has the LA horn logo).

@boogitybear2283

4 ай бұрын

Los Angeles likes the Raiders even with the Chargers and Rams being in the city. They would still rather go to Las Vegas and watch the Raiders.

@gbalph4

4 ай бұрын

@@boogitybear2283 yeah my neighbor is an Allegiant Stadium season ticket holder so I know when he’s gone. Plus I guess this can be attributed to the Raiders staying in California until 2020 and Al Davis wanting a unified brand rather than being in one location.

@skidawg22

4 ай бұрын

@@boogitybear2283 Had the owners actually listened to their LA committee, the Rams don't leave St. Louis and that Vegas stadium (which just finished hosting a Super Bowl) would have instead been built in Carson, hosting the Raiders and Chargers.

@paulgodbey304

4 ай бұрын

They would probably be as upset as if I wore my Los Angeles Dodgers white home jersey in San Francisco. You might have to hire a bodyguard.

@mattstaebel3543

4 ай бұрын

I’d think you’d be fine brother. When the rams were in the Super Bowl a few years ago I saw people out wearing their rams gear. I didn’t say anything but thought it was dumb

THat Ricky Proehl catch was the most awesome thing that I had seen up to that point!! I was born in STL and I felt proud to be from there for the first time in a long time! LMAO

@myleslong5584

4 ай бұрын

Proehl was a fine little receiver when he played for Arizona,too. He just,kinda,flew under everybody’s radar.

I’m sure every local could not pick pronunciation but we say it like de-kate-ur and they were actually the Stayles Bears.🐻

Eagles and Cards used to have such hard fought games against each others back in the day.

I remember what St. Louis couldn't get its act together during the last NFL expansion. The NFL was so desperate to have a team in St. Louis that they gave the city an extra month to shore up its bid package. St. Louis failed to do so, so the NFL reluctantly gave the franchise to Jacksonville. All the while, Baltimore had by far the best expansion package and greatly exceeded every NFL challenge. Kinda funny how things turned out, isn't it?

@skidawg22

4 ай бұрын

As I mentioned previously, Enos Stanley Kroenke played a very big role in Jacksonville getting the expansion team. Baltimore would eventually get an "expansion" team as the result of a stunt similar to Stan's pulled by a guy named Art Modell.

FYI - the Rams were not known as the "greatest show on turf" until AFTER they had won the Super Bowl.

"Chicago Cardinals." Ugh. That just sounds so wrong to even say, even if it is a football team.

Anyone else think its quite a strange coincidence that once the Rams moved, the Chiefs became a dynasty, and the Rams made it back to the Superbowl?

@jakrispyballs69

26 күн бұрын

Chiefs wanted the rams to move. They’re were only a few teams that voted against the rams moving I think it was the eagles, packers, cardinals, and chargers

The St. Louis team name actually made sense and it perfectly fine.

I think the biggest betrayal was from the cardinals, Rams were in LA since 1946 so they belonged in LA but Georgia Frontiere was from St Louis and wanted them there, which her husband rosenbloom would NOT have done, that is why LA does not name the name of Georgia Frontiere. Who really should hate is the Cardinals they were the original STL football team

@JoeErhart

21 күн бұрын

The Original NFL team was the St. Louis All-Stars, followed by by the Gunners

I was a foreigner growing up loving the greatest show on turf of the St. Louis Rams. It was my dream to go see the game for real one day. I'd finally made it in 2015. Unfortunately, It was the last year that the team I had known and loved was the team I grew up with. Deep down, I still wished that Kroenke didn't exercise his right and sold his share to Shad Khan. He's a greedy business mogul who only cares about money and hometown royalty doesn't matter to him at all.

I was born in Phoenix and moved to St. Charles fall of 1988.

St. Louis, not Jacksonville, should have gotten the NFL expansion team in 1995. I still say the Jacksonville Jaguars should relocate to St. Louis and still remain in the AFC South with nearby cities Nashville and Indianapolis. Even the dome is still better than Jacksonville’s stadium. The Gator Bowl is a dump!

@skidawg22

4 ай бұрын

If you ever get a chance to hear Howard Balzer talk on the subject, who does he say was largely responsible for the Jaguars winding up in Jacksonville? Señor Stan himself, as he refused to work with the group pursuing the expansion team. But also to the point of the video: St. Louis needs an expansion team of their own. No more relocations.

@Weidneriffic

4 ай бұрын

Read this closely. That’s not happening. It won’t ever happen. Also, there is no “Gator Bowl”, there’s Everbank Field, and it’s getting a two billion dollar renovation, so it will look much like, ironically, SoFi. The Jags and the city are working together to ensure the Jaguars remain in Jacksonville for a long time.

@Skycladatdusk78

4 ай бұрын

I agree, St. Louis is a much better football town. Jacksonville is a dump.

@Weidneriffic

4 ай бұрын

“Better” football towns don’t lose two NFL teams. Jax continuously outdrew the Rams when they were in St Louis. Get the fantasy of the Jaguars moving out of your head. It’ll never happen.

@Skycladatdusk78

4 ай бұрын

The attendance only fell after the Rams sucked for a long time, 2007-15. If the Rams were still in St. Louis with the current coaching regime and winning seasons and superbowl trophy attendance would be back to greatest show on turf era.

And do people remember the 2014 Rams players protest that when football in St Louis were over

Great video. Ka Kaw!

The St Louis Rams looks way cooler than the Los Angeles rams. Both their logo, and outfits how far greater style. It's too bad for the Los Angeles rams, that they did not bring their sense of style along with them. During their move.

At least you have the Battlehawks now. They have been really entertaining

As an LA guy who wanted a local team to cheer for I’d like to thank Stan Kroenke and the Rams for coming back lol. I could never get on board with the Raiders or Chargers

>had the cardinals for way longer >cardinals not successful >cardinals leave >cardinals continue to suck *no anger towards them* >get the rams >rams win SB >rams leave >rams win another SB *seething with hate for the rams*

@alananolik394

4 ай бұрын

yes.

@tdubmusketeer

4 ай бұрын

Bill Bidwell was very well hated. Don’t worry about that.

Fans will support an NFL Team Born and Breaded in St. Louis

I don't if it is mentioned but st louis had 4 nfl teams St. Louis has been the home of four National Football League (NFL) franchises. Three years after the NFL was founded in 1920, it accepted the St. Louis All-Stars as a franchise for the 1923 NFL season. Then 14-7. The second franchise was the St. Louis Gunners. The Gunners were an independent professional football team that played the last three games of the 1934 National Football League season, replacing the Cincinnati Reds on the league schedule after the Reds' league membership was suspended.

Rams played the Vikings in the 1974 and 1976 NFC Championship games and against the Cowboys in the 1975 and 1978 NFC Championship games

@michaelleroy9281

Ай бұрын

As the Los Angeles Rams not St Louis

Charlie Trippi lived to 100, fortunately, as Chicago Cardinals did not deliver 1947 Championship Rings to the Players until 1997.

The Rams are where they belong, in L.A. They never should have moved to St. Louis in the first place. Oh, Fordham is pronounced Fordum, not Ford Ham.

Bad politicians played a huge role as well.

I thought of another example -- DC technically lost both the Twins and Rangers, although both franchises were called the "Senators" when they played in Washington, but they were two different franchises.

NBA used to have a team there 50 years ago

Ah, the St. Louis Rams. The '99-'03 Rams were very fun to watch. Much like the Sacramento Kings of the NBA in same era that were way ahead of their time. Very fun to watch. Injuries derailed potential dynasties. Rams were likeable versions of todays Chiefs, like the Kings were likeable version of todays Warriors.

@michaelleroy9281

Ай бұрын

Just like the Chiefs from 1966-71 they fell into mediocrity after those years

St. Louis had 4 NFL teams. The All-Stars, Gunners, Cardinals, and Rams. Couldn't keep any of them

The Rams were also in the NFC Championship vs. the Bears in '86 (after the '85 season).

I grew up idolizing the St. Louis football Cardinals in the 1970s; probably the greatest team to not win a playoff game in that time period. After the Cardinals moved to Arizona and the Rams to St. Louis there was a rumor the Cards were considering moving again, this time to L.A. That never happened but if so the teams could have switched logos and been back where they were lol.

It's interesting to me that both the Rams and Cardinals moved from other cities to St. Louis and then both moved away from St. Louis. The way that St. Louis has embraced the Cardinals, Rams and Battlehawks shows that the city will support football. If the NFL expands, they should absorb the Battlehawks into the NFL. The NFL would be adding a team with an established fan base and structure.

I think you would enjoy the 2009 Cardinals Football book by St. Louis sports historian Greg Marecek. I am old enough that I started following the Big Red their first season in STL in 1960. Their 1964 playoff win over Green Bay was actually only a game of the runner-ups Green Bay in the West and St. Louis in the East with no advancement. This is why it is said the Big Red in St. Louis never won a playoff game. According to Greg Marecek he blamed the separate St. Louis City and County governments for not agreeing on a new football stadium location, since Bill Bidwell initially wanted to stay in STL. Bill Bidwell thought Phoenix would right away help build a new stadium but it took 18 years so they played at Arizona State all those years. The Rams are a different story. As a result of the St. Louis lawsuit it was indirectly learned approval to move was only given when Stan Kroenke signed an indemnification agreement to compensate NFL owners in the event of any St. Louis lawsuits. This overrode the NFL Relocation committee recommending to keep the Rams in St. Louis and an initial relocation vote. No way though would it have been good for Stan Kroenke to stay in St. Louis. He had already bought land for SOFI years prior and wanted the large TV market of L.A. as did Roger Goodell and a few owners such as Jerry Jones of Dallas and Hunt of Kansas City per the initial relocation vote. Much came out in a long St. Louis Post Dispatch article of what had been learned during the lawsuit a few months after settlement. St. Louis was ready to build a new stadium but needed an owner to contribute. I think an owner would have been found but an owner similar to the private investors of the new soccer team to build a new stadium committed to the STL region is key. I enjoyed your video and agree with your conclusion at the end. Also a better resolution of the Rams moving should have been awarding St. Louis an expansion team.

I have a soft for the football cardinals, love the logo, the angry birds

Look at Oakland. The Raiders were there, moved, moved back and now Vegas.

Once the 3rd largest city in the U.S. and hosting the Olympics and World's Fair in the same year (1904) St. Louis is not even in the top 50 anymore (!!!). The slow but steady and never-ending loss of jobs and population has left the city with a far brighter past than future. I spent over two decades there, and will always love it, but facts are facts.

East answer: just give LA the same treatment and have the chargers move to St Louis

@Nnelg1965

23 күн бұрын

that would make a good AFC rivalry into a great one! KC v STL revive the cross-state hate!!

Technically speaking, the Saint Louis Cardinals moved to suburban Phoenix, Arizona. - First, it was Sun Devil Stadium (home of Arizona State University) in Tempe as the Phoenix Cardinals. Later, it became the Arizona Cardinals. - Now, they play at State Farm Stadium (previously known as University of Phoenix Stadium) in Glendale, Arizona.

As a STL native you hit the nail on the head. I don’t want another franchise to move to STL I want a team born and raised

If I took a dab every time the narrator says someone edged someone else I'd be on Mars

St. Louis would have gotten an NFL expansion team in 1995, rather than Jacksonville, except for civic and business leaders squabbling among themselves instead of providing a uniform plan to the league. An established team that is effectively 'stolen' can be 'stolen back' at some point, especially one so strongly identified with one city as the Rams have been with Los Angeles. Once the 'top-tier' clause wasn't honored by 2015, the chances of the Rams remaining in St. Louis were very slight, however the city's civic leadership and especially its local sports media totally misled the area's NFL fans about the situation. Really, the 'Gateway City' blew its best chance for a long-term NFL team back in '95.

Nice video- always wondered what the deal with St Louis and the NFL was. Y’all really showed up for the Battlehawks, so there’s clearly an appetite for football. My only criticism is sound quality is kinda all over the place- I’m sure as you do more videos like this, you’ll work out the kinks.

@PenguinNote67

4 ай бұрын

The mic is somewhat new. I'll make sure to work it

@loganhart3402

4 ай бұрын

To piggyback off this comment, STL is a great sports city. The Cardinals and the Blues always draw huge crowds. And the Battle hawks to very very well for being in the XFL. The narrative that we are a baseball city is a so dumb. The Rams were consistently one of the worst teams in football after the GSOT era. No fan base is going to show up for a team that can barely win 5 games a year.

@skidawg22

4 ай бұрын

@@loganhart3402 No winning seasons in their last 12 in STL, a stretch that includes the worst 5 years in NFL history (15-65).

I give my regards to the St. Louis All-Stars (1923-1923) and the St. Louis Gunners (1931-1940) The First & Second NFL Teams in St. Louis, Before The Cardinals, and the Rams.

Well put together video. I remember being in elementary school when the Cards moved to Arizona, only reason I knew was they sold NFL team pencils in the cafeteria and seeing it on them. Then I remember both LA teams leaving many years later and wasn't surprised, since LA was a terrible football town then. I did enjoy the Titans losing that Super Bowl too, as I'm from Houston and still have deep hatred for them to this day. It was even worse when we got screwed for an expansion team, since they gave it to LA initially, and only after they couldn't get an ownership group together did the Texans come into existence. Sadly the owner is a clown and finally gave up on watching them weekly in 2019, but at least they didn't move.

@coreylevine8095

4 ай бұрын

It didn't become a bad football town until the Raiders move there in 1982

I must have buried the trauma of being a rams fan through the 2010’s. I started trying to remember players from that era and my brain went “Janoris Jenkins, Kenny Stills- okay that’s enough of that”. I also instinctively shudder when I see the camera pan across the chiefs sideline and Steve Spagnuolo pops out of nowhere

St Louis is a MODEL WFLXFL city. Next to Kansas City, Jefferson City, Laurie, Sikeston, Moberly, Waverly, Chillicothe it is oh Sedalia, Independence, Blue Springs, Oak Grove, A Great City!

I was a huge Rams fan, and Isaac Bruce will always be my favorite player. What hurts the most was the way that owner trashed the city to get out. What will never make sense is that the Cardinals left because they wanted a new stadium and proceeded to play in a college stadium for 2 decades. Additionally, our hometown wouldn’t build the Cardinals a new stadium, but proceeded to build one with no official tenant just a handful of years later. Life is better as a Chiefs fan

St. Louis will get another team, don't know if the Battle Hawks made the 8 team cut for UFL but if they did just show up and pack the place, that'll get the NFL wanting some of that money

@skidawg22

4 ай бұрын

Your 2024 UFL teams: XFL Conference: St. Louis BattleHawks, Arlington Renegades, DC Defenders, San Antonio Brahmas USFL Conference: Birmingham Stallions, Memphis Showboats, Michigan Panthers, Houston Roughnecks (the two Houston teams merged, keeping the USFL roster and the XFL name)

@coreylevine8095

3 ай бұрын

UFL/NFL Merger could happen

@BrandanTheBroker

3 ай бұрын

@@coreylevine8095 anything can happen, if there's money in spring football the NFL will either merge it, acquire it then change it to some weird branding, or start their own and run UFL out of business. I'm more on the lines of acquire then maybe sign all the practice squad guys and guys trying to make the league but went undrafted

Could've been worse. The Rams could've been sold to Khan. Ask the Jaguars what having him for an owner is like