I have been a nurse for 30+ years. One night, as a young nurse, I was called to a patient's room to insert a Foley catheter. This particular patient was not my assigned patient, but as I had quickly gained a reputation as the go-to nurse for straight caths and IVs, (when other nurses had been unable to successfully insert these), I was asked to try and get it started. I had read the patient's diagnosis sheet in her chart prior to entering her room, as per protocol, so I knew what to expect. I introduced myself to the patient - an older woman, very put together and sophisticated, with a bright smile - and she immediately apologized, saying that she, "wasn't normal down there." Long story short, I got the catheter inserted. The patient was so kind but acted ashamed. She told me in her time it was "disgraceful" to be "what she was." It broke my heart. I've never forgotten it. I patted her hand in reassurance and told her she need not apologize for anything. Poor woman, imagine how she probably felt her whole life, especially in the time she grew up in. She had been born in 1915. I still think about her all these years later. Thank you for this video. Tears welled up in my eyes watching it. ❤

@sarahallegra6239

6 ай бұрын

I’m sure she remembered your kindness and empathy for a very long time too ❤

@ganymededarling

6 ай бұрын

What an incredible story!

@SpringNotes

6 ай бұрын

Thank you for being so kind ♥

@blazefairchild465

6 ай бұрын

Very sad.

@mariekatherine5238

6 ай бұрын

That’s sad, her feeling that way. I think you may have made her day! If are truly born a hermaphrodite, just be yourself! If you WANT to choose one gender, as an adult decision, then do so. If you wish to be gender fluid, that’s okay, too. I had a friend in high school back in the 1950’s who was intersex. She appeared to be female externally, but it was discovered she was a partial male, internally. She didn’t fully develop as either in adolescence, in fact, was not terribly interested in sex at all. She had heart problems as a result of an imbalanced endocrine system and died of a heart attack at age 47. I like to think of her as an eternal Tom boy, kind, creative, and always up for an adventure!

Thank you for this video. I had a high school friend (in the 1990s) who was intersex and even then it was still a misunderstood thing. Her parents were told by doctors (in the late 70s) that they HAD to choose one or the other, so thus began dozens of operations. By the time she was 17, she had endured over 26 surgeries, was 6 feet tall, had little breast development, but soft features and a feminine voice. She also had a colostomy bag because of the mess all the surgeries had made of her insides. When she turned 18 she REFUSED to have any more surgeries to "make her more female". I don't blame her. Unless there are actual, legitimate health concerns, leave them alone. They can choose to have surgeries in their own time, if they want to.

@YippiKyEh

6 ай бұрын

Omg that’s horrific

@edwardmiessner6502

6 ай бұрын

She had a horrible quality of life thanks to parents who had societal approval and pressure put on them by prejudiced physicians who thought they knew better.

@pitchforkpeasant6219

6 ай бұрын

@@edwardmiessner6502that’s actually been my problem with the left. They think they know better when it comes to anything and everything. They screwed me up worse than I would’ve been. Actually ive been tossed into the alphabet group despite not wanting to be.

@canadachandler7521

6 ай бұрын

Sounds like what they do to `trans kids`.

@dankadesign7462

6 ай бұрын

Thats terrible 😢😢

So much for doctor-patient confidentiality. The only thing monstrous about her condition was how society treated her. 🤬😞

@esmeraldaweatherwaxe970

6 ай бұрын

and it's not a matter of the past, either.. half the country voted for some clown who publicly boasts about groping women without consent, ..so how can anyone feel safe?

@aurinslady7119

6 ай бұрын

She was treated horribly but we need to remember we are looking back at it through the lens of today. There was no confidentiality back then and medicine, compared to today, was in it's infancy.

@annemarietobias

6 ай бұрын

@@aurinslady7119 Today the problem isn't medicine, but politics, that force superstition on people above and beyond medical necessity. There are entire political groups that would turn the clock back 200 years.

@dianneheard9438

6 ай бұрын

0​@@annemarietobias

@sknmwms6516

6 ай бұрын

Is it that it might have been formation of twins that did not separate and the end result was the person was born intersexed?

I was born a true hemaphrodite, I had been identified a male at birth and no one paid any attention to this until I reached 13 and had my first full period, (I had been having them since I was eleven but they were very light). Fortunately my biology teacher came to find me as I has asked to go to the toilet. She realised what was going on and inserted a tampon into my vagina, and got me to the school nurse. I was taken Lewisham hospital escorted by my biology teacher and had to wait till my parents arrived. It was decided that as I had been identified as a male, that my female bits would be removed, ostensibly to prevent self impregnation. They removed my womb, ovaries, fallopian tubes and uterus. It's a shame they couldnt remove my femine personality too this all happened in the early 1960's.. If it had happened to me in this day and age I would have insisted on being left as I was born. No one has the right ti interfere wuth what God creates.

@g.cosper8306

5 ай бұрын

I am sorry to hear of your difficulties. But I thank you for sharing

@Miguel53de

5 ай бұрын

I know a rather similar case. Except that she/he had become a girl short time after birth. The doctors convinced her parents to do so. Nobody can imagine the pain and sorrows she went through during her lifetime. She worked as a journalist and was very active in the fight for the rights of humans like her. But at the end, she could not take anymore her confusion and doubts and fears. She toke her life in fall of 2009. During her (I say her because she was made a she) funeral I learned about her younger „sister“ who was in the same situation. A very sad case and while writing, my tears are coming back again. And when I read comments made from politicians or religious leaders about the „only two gender theory“ I feel anger and pain!

@patriciarouse16

5 ай бұрын

How tragic. Allopathetic physicians are injuring at a reported rate of one in four target victims . Maybe knowing it's not merely your existence that baffles them. They can not and do not " hear" or " see" cause look to know is not the motivator.

@darleneengebretsen1468

5 ай бұрын

I'm so sorry you had this horrible experience. Your worth as a human being is not defined by gender.

@yveeliza

5 ай бұрын

So sorry, absolutely agree 100%. 😢

These intersex people cannot help what happened in the womb during their development. All choices were out of their hands. Anybody who mistreats them because of something nature did to them during their development in the womb is an absolutely awful horrible person. We may not understand it but to mistreat someone because of something they had no choice over is just brutal.

@annemarietobias

6 ай бұрын

And yet the Religious Right are now going after Intersexxed people exactly the same way they are attacking Transgendered and other LGBT folks.

@km0x0

6 ай бұрын

I have a variation of the condition. I have been tormented beyond what anyone can realize. I was recently hospitalized for suicidal feelings. My town is so backwards, they STILL make fun. Even the nurses made fun. My condition was caused by an anti-miscarriage injection given to my mother before I was born because my first brother was miscarried. I'm content with my body right now, and accept it. Finding beauty in the flaws of my body, because I know we are NOT the body, we are the energy that animates the body. That energy is both male and female, yet genderless simultaneously. From my experience, some people don't want to understand, because they enjoy humiliating others. Unfortunately, this includes doctors themselves. 🤷

@Littlemouse884

6 ай бұрын

If nature creates it then it's 100% natural

@jujutrini8412

5 ай бұрын

People mistreat all kinds of people who are born with unusual characteristics. It is not right at all. It is very ignorant and evil.

@calthorp

5 ай бұрын

@@km0x0 I feel so sorry for you because of what our society wants to place on you. you have to wear one hat or the other nothing else. You need to read the book or Jasher & you will understand that our genetics have been messed up from the days before Noah. It is not your fault, that you are what you are just like many others. Know that Jesus loves you & will do anything to save you that he can. Please accept his invitation & change your life.

This is the kind of story that makes me want to go back in time just to be someone's friend 😢

@esmeraldaweatherwaxe970

6 ай бұрын

there are people like that around you, help them?

@colorbugoriginals4457

6 ай бұрын

@@esmeraldaweatherwaxe970 are you assuming i don't?

@Kazza_8240

6 ай бұрын

Omg, people can't even comment a nice thought they had without some arsehole trying to pick it apart, just because they can't imagine going out of their way like that doesn't mean there aren't people that will 🙄😒

@SportyOtterPop

6 ай бұрын

@@Kazza_8240 I am really tired too of snippy remarks, raining on a perfectly harmless thought, like colorbug's statement! Often just not necessary!

@Stoneygreat

6 ай бұрын

😂

How tragic. Despite her becoming a teacher and serving society, she was vilified.

@coldpotatoes2556

6 ай бұрын

Vilification is society’s favourite game.

@geneticdisorder1900

6 ай бұрын

People suck !

@sissyrayself7508

5 ай бұрын

Who says teachers " serve" society? There is a debate that they do not. ..nor does public indoctrinating.

This is so heartbreaking. To be called "Freak" and "Monstrous" in the public press is truly monstrous. RIP Barbin ❤

@jgdooley2003

5 ай бұрын

Normal in Victorian times when conformity and enforced normality in society were toxically overemphasised. I suspect that I have encountered at least 3 people in my life who were gender ambiguous. Tragically most were the butt of jokes and gossip by "normal" people around them in work and school. Lacking any knowledge or guidance on how to behave in such circumstances I did my best to be neutral and suppress the urge to join in and laugh along with the crueller elements of my society. Minority differences in many aspects are treated with disdain by society, not only regarding gender but also neurological differences, ethnic and religious value differences etc.

@deannajadebierman

3 ай бұрын

I have been called freak, it & was beaten as a kid for being Intersexed

Growing up in the early 80's, I went to jr. high school with a boy that one day developed severe abdominal pain in class. He was sent home, came back about a week later, and the same thing happened about six weeks later. He was doubled over in pain in class and went home. This time, he never came back to school. His family actually moved after the doctors did an ultrasound and found a fully developed uterus and ovaries inside this person who anatomically appeared male. She had gotten her period, but there was no opening for the blood to escape her body. My parents told me years later that the doctors had told the family it would be best for them to perform surgery, removing all of the external male parts, creating a vagina, etc.. and starting over raising this thirteen year old as a girl instead of a boy in a different city and a different school system. I've often wondered what happened to her and felt bad for how traumatic and confusing it all must have been for her.

@ThatMontanaMom

5 ай бұрын

Hearing stories like these make me so frustrated...do any of these people ever think about asking the KID what gender they want to represent???

@canelareina3795

5 ай бұрын

​@@ThatMontanaMom This fake story is a trans personas fantasy

@jennifercook4026

5 ай бұрын

That's crazy! It seems that removing the female reproductive organs would have been a surgically easier solution... If the child was asked, I have a feeling they would choose male, since that is how they were raised.

@tingan88

5 ай бұрын

@@jennifercook4026 This was Dr. John Money's theory that gender identity was malleable and could be set by however gender the child was raised in. That theory was quite wrong and resulted in the tragic case of David Reimer. Look it up. Gender identity appears to be inherent and fixed during gestation in the womb.

@markmower1746

5 ай бұрын

Uh, that was me... how you doing you want a date or something?

Thank you for telling her story. I can only imagine the emotional pain that this woman had to suffer day after day, especially back in those days. The hurtful remarks, and the disgusted looks from people around her, and having to quit her job as a teacher, the poor thing was doomed from the start.

@canadachandler7521

6 ай бұрын

The `poor thing` could have worked in an all boys school with the rest of the males. Women and girls have a right to safe same sex spaces.

Thank you for the respectful way you shared this story. The isolation, pain, social brutality they endured is terrible.

My mother who is 91 was just telling me the other day about a hermaphrodite girl that went to her high school that was terrible bullied in school and after graduation, the girl's parents had followed do tors advice and she'd had surgery to be able to be presented and raised as female. I explained to my mother how these days I think most parents let their children remain as they are born and then if they wish to select a gender or have surgery they can. I think that makes much more sense, letting people be who they feel they are. I feel really sad for the intersexed person that went to my mom's school, terrible that she was bullied and treated terribly.

@jujutrini8412

5 ай бұрын

My 89 year old mother knew someone when she was little who had this condition too. She wasn’t bullied though. Maybe it’s because she was in a small village and the culture was that everyone kind of looked out for each other. It was seen as having something unusual about them like having an extra toe or something ie no big deal. When she got older she remembered hearing the elder people kind of whispering about feeling sorry for her. She only understood it properly when she was older and started to study nursing.

@dreamarcher4018

5 ай бұрын

It all should be decided surgically and hormonal after they are fully matured mentally and when they are ready to be FULLY informed of their options, both pros and cons!

I have a happy story! In the 80s i met a guy who's parents had "run away" to Portugal when he was very young, as the British Social Workers were after them.. Turned out he had been born hermaphroditic, and the hospital had decided he should be female (this was in the 60s). Luckily for him they were both proper hippies, living in a commune in Wales. Someone knew of an off grid commune in Portugal who would take them in so thats what happens.. So he grows up a bit wild, but he could read and write fine, a real bilingual bookworm in fact. According to him, he felt neither male nor female growing up; he feels very lucky that nobody pressured him either way. Puberty arrives and he, quite naturally seems to have developed as a male. He still has the option of surgery i think, but seems to be unbothered by it - and i didnt want to pry further.. Hes now a happy well adjusted married man - but we did discuss how very different his life might have been with more "conventional" parents who went along with the authorities of the time.. his folks are still on the commune, dude has a successful business and he idolises his olds!

@stuartd9741

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing. We need more positive stories..

I grew up with a girl who found out she couldn't have children at 16.....after a year of tests they discovered she was female but internally she was male ...no reproductive organs....it happened when her mother were pregnant with her....during development ...she had to undergo a surgery in order to have relations, she's been married 40 years now and has step children and grandchildren .......had an overall happy life .....she also took hormones and her breasts grew....

@nonyobussiness3440

6 ай бұрын

What?

@Elegant17

6 ай бұрын

That's a nonsense

@glszq4

6 ай бұрын

​@@Elegant17it's called androgen insensitivity syndrome. Google it if you want to understand more.

@miaa7968

6 ай бұрын

@@Elegant17 it's not. This is literally a common story amongst intersex people: look female outwardly but have internal male organs,

@tingan88

5 ай бұрын

It looks like you are describing someone with Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome (CAIS). They are XY but do not have functional receptors for testosterone. As a result, they appear in all respects to be female at birth and throughout their life. They do not have a uterus or ovaries. They do have testicular tissue (often misleadingly described as undescended testicles) It has been the case that once diagnosed that tissue is removed because there is a small chance it will become cancerous. If that is done, they do need to take estrogens for the rest of their life. If that tissue is left intact the unused testosterone is converted to estrogen by the body (they are closely related chemically) and exogenous estrogen is not needed. Sometimes surgery may be needed to extend the vagina which is rather short in these individuals. There are some 18,000 such individuals in the US.

Thank you for doing this story. I work closely with the human form in my art, and I always tell my students and audience that the condition is more than "a kink," as many believe it to be today. It is very real and manifests in many ways. I myself have this condition, and it has not made life easy. But what's worse is having to hide it and be told by others that it's impossible or doesn't exist. I could go on, but my point stands. This video is important, maybe not to everyone, but at least to someone like me. I plan to share it with those I know to be curious about the condition as well as suckers for history. Thank you for exploring all walks of life , biology, and culture. Never would have known about this story, otherwise.

@ohsweetmystery

6 ай бұрын

No one think intersex is a kink.

@barbarat5729

6 ай бұрын

I'm not sure who ever said it doesn't exist?

@primesspct2

6 ай бұрын

This video IS important to everyone though. The statistics are 1 in 60 have this condition. That is a lot of people. Terrible things have happened to intersex individuals, surgery that should never have happened. Drs using these patients to further their career, and touting their knowledge as the "new standard". Choosing one of two genders, and deciding for that person, the gender that they will be. These are children and new parents. The parents would be desperate to make a decision that they think will insure their child's happiness. That starts with self-esteem. Many of us suffer from self-esteem issues, how much more important would it be in this situation! Now we know a little bit more. People are afraid of what they don't understand. Especially if they are wholly ignorant of it. I do feel that it should be a mainstream topic, to end peoples suffering, or to at least mitigate it somewhat. In my heart I truly believe God made us with many differences. IMO those differences can be a blessing, as well as a curse, if we choose to let them be. We need to stop hating and fearing what we aren't familiar with. We are no more than base creatures when we do this, nay even worse. I have a complicated form of epilepsy that freaked people out, they were terrified to be with me. I felt shunned, I felt different. My brain didn't work like "normal " peoples. It hurts so bad. However, now I feel much more capable of helping people with brain problems, I find it a gift to help people better understand my condition. I realize that my situation is nothing compared to the problems you have faced, just an example I am using. Thank you for speaking out, it's important. Please know that not all will judge, and as more people speak out, you lend a voice to all intersex individuals. I am sorry for your pain. I do not feel you should have to hide. I look forward to your art making an impact. Artists' works can greatly influence a society. I would love to see your work.

@longiusaescius2537

6 ай бұрын

@primesspct2 1/60?

@aloysiusdevanderabercrombi470

6 ай бұрын

​@@primesspct21/60 is incorrect. It is very, very rare.

I used to be a school photographer. Every once in a while, I would photograph a child that had been all to obviously misgendered. One particular one I have never forgotten was about six years old. The child was brought to me in a frilly dress and dress shoes, with hair down past their shoulders. But the face was a little boy. The pure sadness and anger in that child's eyes broke my heart.

@saphireblue3563

Ай бұрын

Do you think it was a little boy that they parents were dressing up as a girl, or a child with female genitalia that should have been male?

I once taught a 3 rd grader who was born this way. Mom chose for her to be a female. She chose wrong, unfortunately. It was obvious, in spite of all his pink bows, clothes, and hair. He cried at recess bc the older teachers would not let “ her” play football with boys. I caught her in the boy’s bathroom several times, her curiosity I’m sure. We had a meeting with mom, and she refused to hear our concerns. Grandma, however, understood what had happened, but mom couldn’t admit she made a mistake. That poor baby suffered every day, and it was painful to watch. It opened my eyes to gender, and I now believe that God doesn’t see gender, He sees our hearts.

@haplessasshole9615

6 ай бұрын

God created _all_ humans in Their image. If God is infallible, it stands to reason people born gay, intersex, or trans are also made in Their image. The black-and-white male/female dichotomy is a construct of humans, not the Lord.

@indirastone7382

6 ай бұрын

The Only Living God MADE gender! He sees & judges everything. How can the creation’s righteousness be better than the Creators?

@ashleyburbank3129

6 ай бұрын

​@@indirastone7382oh why intersex people who number 1 in every 1500. Witch is actually a lot of people when you consider the population. God's gender chill... People hate... Not him... also judgement is reserved for God... So your very comment is a sin

@bernadettecartin

6 ай бұрын

​@@indirastone7382You know, statements like yours don't endear you and your views to anyone. Because they can come back at you and ask why the Creator made such a jacked up Creation? Why would the Creator make someone who is ambiguous in gender, so that they and people around them who want what's best for them suffer all that confusion, hurt, and hate?

@chilltarts

6 ай бұрын

OK, but what’s going on here is medical and caused by an aberrant variation of the SRY gene; that’s very different than the gender ideologues of today. Let’s be very honest about that, too.

I’m intersex, and this story break my heard. Not much has changed since then, being experimented on my doctors and hated by the public is still a thing

@elainstill1671

5 ай бұрын

I hear you and sorry you have to tolerate such ignorant people 😢

@dd7521

4 ай бұрын

​@@trevorjenningsstop harassing women!

@christinephillips3435

Ай бұрын

I feel sorry for you I had a great aunt who had it she married a lovely man .

In India hermaphrodites are considered sacred beings and are very respected. Ancient cultures were very much tolerant with this issues that we are now in this "advanced" society. Very nice and interesting story. Thanks.

@esmeraldaweatherwaxe970

6 ай бұрын

the catholic church was one of the main reasons why the stupid rigid division between males and females was introduced, and enforced to this day.. the toxins are enduring and causing so much grief, the namecaling, from 'tomboys' to 'sissi boys', the hatred and ridicule from the rightwing is pathetic and unnecessary.. ..as if life wasn't hard enough for all of us.

@SportyOtterPop

6 ай бұрын

Some of the native American cultures, and Polynesisian, for example

@SewardWriter

6 ай бұрын

The Talmud recognises eight separate sexes and genders, including a couple that fall under the intersex category. It goes back a long way in Judaism.

@juliecolemannelson6849

6 ай бұрын

​@@SportyOtterPop i was going to add Polynesians as I am native Hawaiian. It’s not always necessarily intersex, but we would call it a third gender, and the term was mahu. It could mean a male who identified as female or tge other way around.

@artemismoonbow2475

6 ай бұрын

Contemporary society is dominated by ontological Realism, the idea that reality is objective, dualistic, rational, categorizable, linear, masculine, understood through empiricism, and a strict line between matter and spirit is drawn. Societies in the past, and much of the East today though that is changing rapidly were/are ontologically Idealist where the exact opposite assumptions are the basis of reality. Ironically, the Communications Age, Information Theory, post-quantum physics, etc, etc could bring us back full circle and thus prove the point, that life is in fact not linear. Have faith.

I’ve been educated about this since adolescence thanks to my mom. If I had a child like this I’d def just let their body do their own thing and leave the final decision up to them once they become an adult. It’s so cruel to force surgeries on them. It’s very normal and should be accepted as such. We need more education on this as a whole. Ppl can be so cruel. All bc they don’t want to be judged by ppl who will judge them anyway.

First of all, "thank you," for presenting this story to us. This is historical information that we rarely see talked or read about. Great investigating, presenting, backstories, illustrations and photos, too.

isn’t it just absolutely appalling how cruel people can be?? back then? now? still! Barbin couldn’t HELP how she came into this world.. how absolutely insane to be rude to people who find themselves with a particular bodily arrangement… causing them any measure of grief in the pursuit of their God-given, basic human freedoms to pursue life and loves just because anatomies differ, is unimaginably cruel……whyyyy make navigating this already tricky life, even more challenging for some just because they are unique?? Peace be especially upon all these special souls.. and wisdom and kindness be where we all come from, with others..

@samonacarter207

5 ай бұрын

Beautifully written from the ❤️

I had a similar experience with a patient identifying as male. He was very helpful and told me exactly what to do. I was grateful.

@canadachandler7521

6 ай бұрын

She was a female.

@angelainamarie9656

6 ай бұрын

​@@canadachandler7521you people and your arrogant gaslighting. do you have anything useful to add to this conversation?

@SewardWriter

6 ай бұрын

​@@angelainamarie9656 Just report the troll and go on your way.

@cecileroy557

6 ай бұрын

⁠@@canadachandler7521 Why did you comment "She was a female" after the nurse's comment about her intersex patient identifying as a male? You comment made zero sense...

@wasd____

6 ай бұрын

@@canadachandler7521 You're an idiotic bigot.

No one should ever have to be ashamed of physical circumstances over which they have no control. Shame should be reserved for those who mistreat and isolate other human beings for the crime of being different.

@thegroove2000

6 ай бұрын

This does not apply to those who claim to be transgender's.

@teslagirl1

6 ай бұрын

Her situation had nothing to do with transgenders. No person born a hermaphrodite has chosen it, anymore than they choose any other circumstance of birth. That being said, I'm still not in favor of mistreating and isolating people who have done no harm.

@thegroove2000

6 ай бұрын

No person born a hermaphrodite has chosen it, But transgenders choose to. Thats the point. .

@thegroove2000

6 ай бұрын

Transgender's choose to be who they are. . I dont respect lies and absurdities. I don't care about your feelings. I care about the facts. .@@teslagirl1

@thegroove2000

6 ай бұрын

I have a bald head. Call me baldy. Its a fact. I will laugh and wont take it to heart. Too many pathetic snowflake's who cant handle the truth. @@teslagirl1

I really enjoy the profiles that you present about forgotten women. In this case the story is heartbreaking. Thank you for presenting it in a respectful way. You deserve praise for not sensationalizing this story.

PBS did a 2 hr special back in the mid 1990's on this very subject. I found it very interesting and informative.

I remember hearing about a case of a baby with hermaphrodite syndrome and the parents refusing to do surgery to choose which sex the baby should be. They wanted to wait for their child to be old enough to make a choice of which sex they were. The parents were turned into CPS for not making the choice for their child saying that it would be easier now than later. I can't remember what happened

@bernadettecartin

6 ай бұрын

OMG that's horrible. The parents who truly did the best by their child were punished for it. I wonder what kind of abuses CPS missed or overlooked in other situations while they were harassing this family.

@honorafox4709

6 ай бұрын

​@@bernadettecartinthis happens quite often and usually to people living in poverty. I've had family members that have endured this several times since my niece was born, and it's happened to friends of ours, too. CPS will often do this. Thy single out one family based on outward appearances and nasty, ignorant rumors from people and will hyper focus and harass that one family, all the while a child growing up in a wealthy and outwardly put together home life will actually be going through horrific abuse and truly need CPS's help.

@darleneengebretsen1468

5 ай бұрын

As a retired CPS worker, I hope to God that CPS actually left the family alone and closed the case.

@tanyadepoalo4312

4 ай бұрын

That’s terrible. I believe the parents made the right decision and cps were the abusers and should be in jail for what they did to that family. Very sad.

@stuartd9741

4 ай бұрын

Unless there was a severe medical risk the child should decide later in life. .. I do wonder in these cases does any parent owns/have guardianship of their child if parents are able to be legally forced into decisions against their wishes.

I hope if I had a child who was born with this condition, my husband and I would educate our friends and families, so our child had a safe childhood, made a strong understanding medical team, that would help us all as we go through developmental changes, and love our kid like we do all our other kids.

@Plethorality

6 ай бұрын

I always thought that if i had a kid, born both, i would accept them as they are, and let them develop naturally and not let any scalpels near my kid. Sadly, i never had live offspring.

@nikki7962

6 ай бұрын

Exactly how to handle it ❤❤

@user-kb8kg1dp7l

6 ай бұрын

i am not so sure your kid would appreciate that, knowing all the relatives know about him/her like that. Might not be a good idea.

@_Nat_A_

6 ай бұрын

@@user-kb8kg1dp7l you don’t know our family.

@robbiemckenzie7822

6 ай бұрын

You have a good heart and no doubt would make a good mother if you aren't a mother already. But please reconsider the part about telling anyone but your spouse and child only. The other children will be cruel and we only get one childhood. Life is hard enough without having an unhappy childhood to look back on.

My heart has always went out to people with this condition… it must so confusing especially when growing up… especially because adults can be just as cruel as children… I wish people were more understanding

The body knows what is is. Let it develop into what it will be. Humans will always vary. It is not "wrong".

@stuartd9741

4 ай бұрын

Reading the comments your statement rings true .. It seems the intersex body will develop into the outwardly dominant sex usually around puberty. Unless there's a medical risk, the rest of the body should be left as it was born.

Such a sad and tragic story of an intersex person. I hope we can learn from it.

@esmeraldaweatherwaxe970

6 ай бұрын

with the rise of the rightwing and the continued votes for the orange faced clown, I doubt it.

Your respectful recounting of this heartbreaking story is beautiful. Thank you.

This is so sad, she suffered so much. Bless her. Heart breaking 💔 😢

This is Truly a Tragic a tale of an individual who was misunderstood, and, sometimes, bullied by Society. Unfortunately, it seems to have made her feel as though she was inferior to others. 😥 Excellent Video, but So SAD.

@esmeraldaweatherwaxe970

6 ай бұрын

as long as we lauigh about feminine men, and scold masculine women, how can the intersexe people expect any support? it starts with us, ALL of us.. we have to stop forcing little girls into pageants and frilly dresses and stop damaging boys by telling them never to show any emotions. keep abusers away from children, parental rights shoudl not prevail over the need to protect children's developing brains!

@NeverBelieveALie

6 ай бұрын

I am going to make a tshirt LIVE & LET LIVE 🙏🏻

Thank you for your channel. Thank you for the research you do on all these different stories and bring knowledge of people and their lives that I have never heard of. I have learned a great deal of human behavior and how people lived in the different cultures and places and the different eras. You have a wonderful soothing voice. I have been listening to your channel for about 3 years and have learned a lot but this particular story has gripped me hard. I’m 60 years old and disabled and a Christian. This story especially helps and guides me to accept all human beings as they are and want to be. God loves all and wants all to be saved not dehumanized because they are different. Embrace the beautiful differences with God’s Agape Love. Anyway, thank you again for this channel. It has truly humbled me. May God bless you with benefits abundantly.

@Squiggly_Spooch

6 ай бұрын

Thank you for being open minded

This is so sad. I remember my mother, who was a mother craft nurse, asked a customer whose wife was expecting a baby if it had arrived. This big, tough man broke into sobs, saying the baby was both, and spent the next couple of hours having a good chat and lots of tea. I do hope that this baby grows up with more understanding than previous generations would have.

@nielszindel1151

5 ай бұрын

Well I am a nurse and we just accepted that some people were intersex. I can only speak for myself. I do not even see it as strange and never have.Trained in the seventies. The gay rights movement started in the sixties and people were a lot more enlightened than is reported today. Not everyone was a fundamentalist christian... Delia Morris

@stringofpearls4551

5 ай бұрын

@@nielszindel1151Intersex has nothing to do with gay rights. So sad that you are a nurse and cannot separate the two

I had a friend in boarding school that was intersexual , my friend was an awesome person ❤️

My mom told me about them when i was a little girl. These people have no say so about being born, nor do we.

I knew one back in the 1960s that had the answer for it, he wore a light coat and shirt, a hat and had a small beard, and from the waist down a ankle length skirt.

Very sad, life & society can be so cruel 😢 I’m so glad they have a remembrance day for her, though unfortunately she would never know how she has changed history. hello from Australia 🇦🇺

Thank you for presenting such a fascinating but tragic story. I hope people can learn from it.

Unfortunately not much has changed in the way of attitude and treatment of intersex peoples. They still deal with forced surgeries as infants and having to pick male or female. This isn't something they can control, it's just how they're born. And they should feel free to live how they wish as whatever they wish, male, female or whatever.

@pitchforkpeasant6219

6 ай бұрын

Some arent aware they are intersexed until puberty. There are different levels. Gynecomastia is an indication. Then its off to the endocrinologist. People can tell im “off” and out come the assumptions. People in cities are so arrogant they think their assumptions are right and out comes the punishment. People on the right are far more accepting than any leftists

@canadachandler7521

6 ай бұрын

That is false. A lot has changed.

@missingallmymarbles7670

6 ай бұрын

@@canadachandler7521not nearly enough. In the USA we still have to be assigned to one gender or the other on a federal level (some states like mine have a third option but it’s in state only). I was born in the 80s and still can’t get an answer from any medical professionals as to whether or not I was surgically altered at birth and I can’t even get a straight answer from my mother due to early dementia and the fact that many doctors would do the surgeries without fully informing even the parents. Now that being nonbinary is a bit more socially acceptable the surgeries without full informed consent have decreased but there’s still doctors who will word things deceptively in order to force their opinions onto children far too young to understand or choose for themselves something that is so important. All I know now is that I’m hormonally male, have a uterus and outward appearance of being female “enough”, am XX, and what appears to be ovaries…aren’t… I’ve gone through puberty roughly from age six to almost thirty, first female, then male, then female again after going on hormone replacement therapy in order to prevent early onset osteoporosis since my body doesn’t naturally produce any female hormones and even men need some to maintain bone density.

@mercedesvelasquez8781

6 ай бұрын

​@@canadachandler7521depends on what part of the world you live and for America it varies what part of the state you live at

@Ann963

6 ай бұрын

@@canadachandler7521 It depends where you live. Unfortunately, many places still pressure parents to agree to give gender-conforming surgeries to infants, instead of simply accepting their child as intersex. Unless there are medical reasons the intersex anatomy or physiology is harmful, these are unnecessary and harmful surgeries, especially when the child is then not subsequently informed of their intersex status.

As a delivery nurse, my mother was present at the birth of a hermaphrodite baby. As she, the doctor, and the mother discussed their thoughts and were wondering which gender to put on the birth certificate, the baby peed up and out, directly into the pocket of the doctor’s white coat. He exclaimed, “well, that decides it! This baby is a boy. No girl could aim that precisely!”

@iahelcathartesaura3887

6 ай бұрын

What a sad way for him to make a decision, so foolish. And that child's entire future could hang on that and they could be given terrible surgeries. Men are so focused on their 'body part' when they're not healthy and mature men. An intersex child could pee in that way because tissue is pressuring the urethra of a female organ. Or not. That's a terrible way for a doctor to make a medical decision when we depend on them for good sensible sound, scientific method based, medical decisions that affect people's lives! Thank you so much for sharing this story

@SomerainTsalagi

6 ай бұрын

​The doctor is only human, he's expected to fill out a birth record before he clocks out for the day, it shouldn't require 10 years to figure out what to put in the birth record, that could become a crime if he leaves it blank. I think in this case unfortunately the Choice should be up to the parents​@@iahelcathartesaura3887

@StephenPickells-bi2ii

6 ай бұрын

No. What sad is that the birth certificate needed to say male or female right there and then even though right there, and then the sex of the child was ambiguous. It seems the doctor was quite clever, given the need to put something. What’s much worse is what used to happen when babies born with ambiguous genitalia had vaginas made, the child was raised as a girl, and was made to think that it was a girl, even if it wasn’t

@actuallyNo...

6 ай бұрын

Lolol..

@miaa7968

6 ай бұрын

I want to laugh but the fact that assigning a binary to someone who clearly doesn't exist in it, knowing what adult intersex people have gone through grappling with their sex and gender, this story feels more tone-deaf than light-hearted. No offence, you're clearly well-intentioned.

Awful. Even with medical knowledge advanced today, ordinary people would mostly be lost with this. A 6th grade schoolmate had the dark hair of a moustache and on her arms; her family was not local to our area and she told us her mother was using something to lighten her facial hair. Something so inconsequential as hair was a 'problem' to her mother and we kids wondered about it. Knowledge has advanced but...

I love how a tone of your voice gives us empathy for the person or people you are talking about. ❤❤

Medical attitudes are changing. I understand that many doctors are advising to leave well alone and help children with encouragement and therapy to accept that they have a unique, not freak, condition and to embrace that uniqueness. That seems to be working much better. I saw a documentary on this that gives hope for intersex people. It's only after puberty age that the dominant tendency reveals itself more fully, and once they've been able to work out for themselves who they are. In fact, most were happy to remain as they are physically but eventually see themselves as one gender over another. Only a few felt the need to transition physically in later years. The worst mistake was persuading parents after birth or only a few months old to agree to surgical and/or hormonal intervention thinking that the child will "never know" and will never know what happened. That proved horribly wrong, and tragic. We also cannot judge the "cruelty" of early ages, only learn by it. There was a time when twins were both murdered for being the products of the devil. There are still many countries who believe that twins are the spawn of devils, that epilepsy is an evil spirit. I personally believe that such cults continue to exist with the climate scares and predictions of the end of the world, so until we lose that, we're still only developing, not developed.

How sad. To not find acceptance and love.

I cannot wait till tomorrow, listening to you now at 2:30 in the morning! Thank you FLives for your fantastic work

what an extremely heartbreaking life this person had. i wish they would have been born in the 2000's. they could have had so much more, opportunyities, understanding, love, and peace of mind. i'd never heard of them before today, but from now on i cherish my blessings as a human alive in this time so much more. and will think of them often. thank you for sharing.

I saw “The Mystery of Alexina” when it was first out. Seriously tragic.

Thank you for sharing this fascinating yet heartbreaking story of this young persons life. What an impact our societal beliefs has on our mental and physical health. I wonder if she was born today, would her story have ended differently.

Poor, tormented person. My heart breaks for people suffering like that

How encouraging to know that you're determined to show all facets of the human condition. Thank you!👍🏼

Thank you for telling Herculine’s tragic story.

Fantastic Presentation! Important. I hope somewhere somehow he realizes how much he has provided to our society.

I love the laced "hoodie" and jacket she's wearing in the one photo.

You die twice… once when you breathe your last breath and again when someone breathes your name for the last time. I love that you’re still keeping these people alive by telling their stories ❤

Thank you for such a thoughtful and enlightening video.

If people could somday understand that some people are born intersex, then it really isnt at all hard to understand homosexuality, bisexuality, or transsexuals. Maybe someday the average person can grow to understand

Such a sad story. I'm sure she had a wonderful, loving heart. Please never judge people lest you be judged.🙏

I just checked and The Mystery of Alexina is on KZread with subtitles, thank you for introducing me to Herculinas story, it's intrigued me, off to watch the film now.

In the Louvre this is a beautiful marble statue of a reclining hermaphrodite - it was rather fascinating.

She was only 30 years old, so young and she suffered the entire 30😞

Great history lesson as always. Thank you.

I'm sorry to hear about her story. But, I recall another similar story from the past. In this instance, when the person found out its male identity, he thrived as the male gender.

Thank you for creating this highly enlightening video! Please continue with more! I'm looking forward to future videos!

Thank you for a story that outlines the strange way society crystalizes us into what we are.

Thank you so much for the good story again you always have good stories to tell have a good day have a good New Year be safe and be healthy

You presented her/their story with such respect & dignity dealing with a subject which as this sad story exemplifies caused suicide at age 29. I had read the book when it was published & it is a perfect example of just why it is important to have a more fluid open mind when it comes to how in a world with a population in the billions,the reality is factually different to the binary construct forced on everyone as fact. I can also remember in every good museum world wide within the sculpture collection, there would invariably be a beautiful body lying on their stomach & the label would read "sleeping/resting hermaphrodite"; sadly even the V&A has resigned these works of art & reality to "sleeping/resting nymph"! Kudos for telling such a relevant story so sympathetically. On a lighter note I've happily recommended your channel to various friends; not only has it earned brownie points,but,you've been voted the most handsome historian on the Web,which is well deserved. Very best wishes to you&yours, as always looking forward to your next alert.

They're used to be a bunch of psychiatric interviews from the 1960s on KZread and I saw a man talking to the doctor but he had been raised as a girl

@lornocford6482

5 ай бұрын

I wonder if it was the case in the US of twin brothers. One was raised as a girl after his circumcision went wrong and his penis was burnt off. It's a tragic case. The doctor basically just used the children as an experiment.

Thank you so much for this important and respectful video 🖤

Today she would have probably been raised as a female, however since things are understood better, this person would be raised as neither sex and could choose if they wanted as they aged. God doesn't make junk, this person was valuable. Being constantly in I'll health, I wonder if there were other congenial medical "abnormalities " like heart problems.

@esmeraldaweatherwaxe970

6 ай бұрын

the reason they were usually raised as females lies in the value that was put on men. it's more accetabe to have an ugly woman than to have a feminie weak looking male in your family.. so the tragedy comes from sexism, not from the condition itself.

@judymurray191

6 ай бұрын

I thought she was raised as female.

@KawaiiStars

6 ай бұрын

​@@judymurray191originally, until they found the male genitals, then they forced her to live as male permanently in all forms, fashion and action

How absolutely heartbreaking 💔

Very interesting!!’ Thank you for creating this. I had no idea!

Perfect Timing Whenever the Opportunity to Open Our Hearts and Awareness becomes Possible 😊😊😊 Blessings

Well done and very interesting. And tragic.

This story is heart breaking... My heart truly goes out to Herculine.. 😢

Instead of feeling angry at a past we can’t change-I prefer to feel appreciative of the era we live in. While it is far from perfect and we still have a ways to go…at least in most parts of the world, we have a much better understanding and acceptance of those who don’t fit into the “status quo”. The fact that the comment section is filled with people wishing they could go back in time and give help/comfort/friendship/etc. fills me with hope-knowing that there are so many people in the world that just want to make anyone who feels like they’re “an outsider,” feel loved, appreciated and included.❤

Thank you for this beautiful treatment of the tragic and interesting story.

There have been many cases in the past where parents or doctors have made the decision for the child and chosen the wrong gender, and it’s sad. Let them grow up first and let them decide themselves what would be most accurate for them instead of risking the wrong decision.

Thank you for sharing her sad story and bringing historical information regarding those with intersex syndromes. Today, these people are fortunately gaining more acceptance with those like Lady Colin Campbell sharing their current day stories.

@jennygray7081

6 ай бұрын

Sadly that is changing here in the US with the far right GOP fighting for bigotry. Human rights are being lost after so much progress has been made. We're trying to fight back.

@QuatrinaVR

6 ай бұрын

@@jennygray7081 The far left has just as a big a problem with their pushing gender stereotypes and labeling gender non-conforming people as the opposite sex. The far left and far right are both obsessed with controlling how people behave. The political spectrum is a horseshoe and the ends curve back around towards each other while the majority of people that have common sense and decency are in the middle

Forgotten Lives, thank you for another interesting video about someone who was intersexed and was living in an historical time period.

My ❤ goes out to this poor human being. It’s not the same as any other problem either. It is an anomaly and very taboo in society. Hiding hiding hiding constantly and feeling like an outsider always on the verge of being pointed out as disgusting by others. It’s a very cruel life to be in that position… in that existence.

You always do such a wonderful job at pronouncing all the foreign names and phrases. Very well researched and professional. Always look forward to another one.

IMO: I Do Not Believe that Parents or Physicians should make the descision of what sex their child should be until their child reaches puberty or that Scientific DNA Studies have determined absolutely what sex their child is? Otherwise, they should wait until their child reaches puberty to find out what nature is going to prove and their body is going to do? As long as they are safe and healthy. Our World and Society better get educated and a grip! Gee Wiz! I knew about this condition when I was in Jr. High School back in the 1970's.

@trevorjennings

4 ай бұрын

Hello Karilee, how are you doing today, hope you’re fine and safe from the COVID-19 virus??

Incredibly interesting and you have given me further reading material.

My cousin was a hermaphrodite, they surgically removed her male parts, when she hit puberty her parents realized when she didn't have periods or develope breaststroke they made a mistake, as an adult she mentally struggles with this.

@trevorjennings

4 ай бұрын

Hello Debbie, how are you doing today, hope you’re fine and safe from the COVID-19 virus??

Well done and informative

I am a biological female, born with excess testosterone. I have facial hair but big shoulders and breasts, as have the other women I have met with this imbalance. I have struggled with ways of reducing body hair all my life, as people are casually disrespectful about it - especially as a youth worker - and often quite innocently e.g crying 'Mum! I'm not going to have arms like that when I grow up am I ?!' You have to grow a thick skin. I asked the GP for NHS help and was refused on the ground I wasn't trans-sexual.

@noname-by3qz

5 ай бұрын

Oh my. I'm female, but I was just again wondering if I have that. I'm almost 70, but I remember so well after puberty kicked in, I had what seemed like an awful lot of very dark hair on my forearms. Then, til definitely into my 30s, I had honestly hairy toes I had to shave them! But I'm not very big, and have small breasts.

@touriel8943

5 ай бұрын

@@noname-by3qz I know it sounds like nonsense (and KZread dont allow external links anymore to evidence) but one indicator is women with greater exposure to testosterone usually have a pointy finger shorter than their ring finger. Mediterranean and Indian/Pakistani women are also more hirsute usually.

@touriel8943

5 ай бұрын

@@noname-by3qz kzread.info/dash/bejne/X5ijtcyjqaezd5c.html

I spoke to a person that has that. We talked for quite awhile. I didn't have the maturity or the empathy to get involved with him. I've since realized that I should have had an open mind regarding this. May God forgive me and bless that person. I never met him but I hope he found love

Thank you so much. So insightful. It made me cry for this poor person.

Her story breaks my heart. Imagine being assigned a gender at birth, then you are villified for living your life as that assigned gender. We have come a ways since then, but still have a ways to go. Let's hope that in the future we can be more understanding and accepting of all people, in all of their beautiful unique forms.

Always interesting Thank you❤

Thank you for telling her story. ❤

Very respectfully done 💙

😢😮 oh my the ending letter from her. I know those feelings, but fir different medical reasons. It is so heartbreaking. Yes, sometimes misery does love company in this world as we have known it.

I'm intersex myself, and i really apreciatte you doing this story could you please do more stories about Intersexual people?

Interesting story ; as always. Thank you.

Many yrs ago met a hermaphrodite called jhon at a festival he was so beautiful as a American Indian with beautiful eyes and hair my partner said at some moments he looked like a beautiful woman and other times a man ,totally confused him ,sadly he died i believe as a junkie who could not deal with his problems concerning his /her condition x Thanks for vid x

@darleneengebretsen1468

5 ай бұрын

Sad indeed.

So very sad and tragic . It must be so very hard on a person being born as a male and female but being labeled as one or the other when in actually they are both a having feelings of both but you can’t act out on either . How can one blossom being told your one or the other and your a freak . I’m so glad that I’m todays age there are proven facts and more understanding so they can try to live a normal life .God doesn’t make mistakes !

@trevorjennings

4 ай бұрын

Hello Ricki, how are you doing today, hope you’re fine and safe from the COVID-19 virus??