The Sana manuscript to Cairo edition: how has the meaning changed?
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Islamic Origins seeks to find out how Islam truly began.
With Ibn-e-Maryam. Originally broadcast on April 24, 2021on the old channel Sneaker's Corner.
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8:00 Examples 1-30
53:04 Examples 31-61
1:29:50 Response to chat
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@islamicorigins hello Mel. Been listening to your work. Thank you. I have been asking about the black stone being in the well of souls underneath the dome of the rock. I have a text book from university which shows a photo of the black stone in the prayer niche underneath the dome of the rock. Looking for any history around how it ended up there. Thank you
I don't remember this one from the Sneaker's Corner days. I must have missed this.
Shabir Ali admitted on camera that the palimpsest was erased and rewritten. He said that they always knew about the different Qurans with different words and meanings and Muslims are repeating what they've been told. His admission is very similar to Sheikh Yasir Qadhi who said that the standard narrative has holes in it and doesn't answer pressing questions from western scholars who are very right about points they bring up.
@sheikhboyardee556
3 күн бұрын
The narrative has more holes in it than my underwear.
@mo_51_married_aisha_6
3 күн бұрын
@@sheikhboyardee556 Even more holes than a cheese factory.🏭 🧀
This video is a great addition to your channel.
Very good. It shows the development of Islam through the changes in the Quran over time. Please ask your guest to post his findings in a sharable PDF with the Arabic and his translations. How do these Saana variants show up in the published Quran variants?
Right!! I watched this prior to I love the explanations. I had been meaning to go back and make notes of his comments. Thanks Mel!!!
Its good to know, that the Allah of the Saana manuscript needed to be corrected by the Cairo Sages of 1924 and 1985....
God bless you
A lot of assumptions on which one is correct. The one that is grammatically better doesn't mean it's closer to the original. Also, the same with "it fits better" doesn't mean it's closer to the original either. Also, the differences could be the bad memory of the original reciting used to start a text which was later written down showing how within a generation (SIN) can already become corrupt (not exactly the same).
Everything looked good.
This is all about what is "the best" grammatically or contextually. It is obvious that there were many recitations; and words were changed at will. Definitely not a preserved "word for word" text.
@josephthybrother9534
3 күн бұрын
Certainly the scribes and translators corrected Allah's words when Allah didn't make sense. MERE MEN CORRECTED ALLAH! HOW MANY VERSES ARE IN THE SANA MANUSCRIPT.
Languages change over time and sometimes change back... this may be why the older Sana manuscript is often clearer than the Cairo version... but either way it shows that the Quran has changed multiple times.
Many of these translations are filling in blanks based on assumption. Quran doesnt talk about itself but about other books, but some passages are traditionally interpreted as about the Quran. But if the tradition distorts…. same about references to Mohammed, Islam, etc.
@sasa_sasa_sasa230
3 күн бұрын
exactly, surah 2 started with that book in which there is no doubt and talking about Jews and Torah, so actually is talking that in Torah there is no doubt, but later tefisirist said that word that means this, hahahah, and talking about qiran.
Seems Cairo is the best translation for me to buy
@abj136
3 күн бұрын
Cairo is not a translation. It is an ancient manuscript. The speaker translated both from Arabic and neither are what you want to buy.
Yoo, i actually made a live 🎉🙏
Do we know what Ibn-e-Maryam is doing now?
@IslamicOrigins
3 күн бұрын
No, I hope he sees this and gets in touch.
@abj136
3 күн бұрын
@@IslamicOrigins I’ve seen the name as a commenter recently.
Jahannam is not Arabic word
so there is no perfect preservation 😂😂😂,its😊 just a claim
perfect preservation big hoax