Missing Words In A Quran Manuscript

In the inaugural video of the Variant Quran channel, Dr. Brubaker introduces himself, talks about his decade-plus research into corrections and variants in early Quran manuscripts, and about the events of this week in which discussion about the preservation of the Quran has shifted.
Then, he presents a page from one of the Sanaa manuscripts that were discovered between the inner and outer domes of the Sanaa Mosque in Yemen in 1972, showing two post-production corrections on the page, and then (the main point) a third spot where three words (sab'in marratan fa- "seventy times and") that are present in Q9:80 in the Hafs Quran and in all Qurans today, are nowhere to be seen on this page. Not only were these words not written at the time of first production, but they were further not written in by the corrector who made the other two alterations on this page.
Dr. Brubaker continues to note that this verse is viable, both in grammar and in meaning, without the missing text.
Finally, he notes an interesting feature about the verse's content. Q 9:80 reads "It is the same whether or not you beg forgiveness for them, though you ask forgiveness for them seventy times, Allah will not forgive them. That is because they disbelieved in Allah and His Messenger and Allah does not guide the evil-doers." Dr. Brubaker points out the familiar account related in Matthew 18:21-22, which reads, "Then Peter came to Him and said, 'Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him? Up to seven times?' Jesus says to him, 'I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven.'"
Dr. Brubaker suggests that presence of the concept of asking or needing forgiveness, alongside the notion of "seventy times" is interesting. The numbers seven and seventy are frequently occurring motifs in both the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, but are not strong motifs in the Qurʾan.
Why did the first writer of this page not include the missing words? Why did the corrector not add them in? The possibility of a variant tradition, that both original scribe and corrector actually might have felt that the verse was correct without these words, may be considered as one potential explanation.
Here are links to Dr. Brubaker's book, "Corrections in Early Qurʾan Manuscripts: Twenty Examples" in black-and-white: www.amazon.com/Corrections-Ea... and color: www.amazon.com/Corrections-Ea...

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  • @sachbolnewstv1656
    @sachbolnewstv16564 жыл бұрын

    Who is here after watching David Wood video ?

  • @mrkay6813

    @mrkay6813

    4 жыл бұрын

    Me!

  • @amhenotepakkardius5504

    @amhenotepakkardius5504

    4 жыл бұрын

    Me!

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    @elmeksol

    4 жыл бұрын

    Me

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    @debofranco2441

    4 жыл бұрын

    Me

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    @karimaabdellahoum4038

    4 жыл бұрын

    Me

  • @pfanderfilms
    @pfanderfilms4 жыл бұрын

    Daniel, this is an excellent video, full of good material, well researched, well filmed, and just what we need! I'll make sure to give a 'shout-out'.

  • @jxcess3891

    @jxcess3891

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Jay Smith, how do you feel knowing the fact that shabby ali finally agrees with you, after nearly a decade, that mohemadans recite the 1924 version of the koooran?

  • @shbsuri

    @shbsuri

    4 жыл бұрын

    Acts17apologetics also made a video with a link to your channel!

  • @fredsanford7136

    @fredsanford7136

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Jay, good to see you here. Thank you for recommending this book. What a pleasure it is to see this video! God bless you!

  • @chiaratiara2575

    @chiaratiara2575

    4 жыл бұрын

    C'mon guys, This is Dr Daniel Brubaker. I think it is wonderful that he has been able to see these manuscripts with his own eyes, to study them in great detail.

  • @noelcarroll4178

    @noelcarroll4178

    4 жыл бұрын

    This is like putting a debt charge right at the epicentre of Islam itself, it will rock their very foundations to the core. This religion is the biggest lie since Christ was tempted by Satan on the Mount of temptation. I spent 10 years working in the middle east as a missionary and buried my wife and two boys in Egypt who were murdered by isis in 2011, I despaired for many years wondering if I could have done more to spread the gospel of Jesus and if I could have done anything different that could have saved my family. But today my pain has eased, there is hope for my Muslim brothers, brother Dan I truly believe that you have been called for a time such as this, I pray for the spirit of the living God to strengthen you Jay Smith and hatun tash in this season. Micah 7.8,9 God bless you

  • @josiahdude1234
    @josiahdude12344 жыл бұрын

    This channel is going to grow very quickly.

  • @alanbutler7712

    @alanbutler7712

    4 жыл бұрын

    Agreed! It is very well done.

  • @gewargisgeorgios8186

    @gewargisgeorgios8186

    4 жыл бұрын

    They'll try and shut it down.

  • @worldchanger7197

    @worldchanger7197

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Ahmed Ftw make a video and debunk him if you can. As we talk your shiekh Yasir Qhadi is terrified of Daniel.

  • @rawdog8141

    @rawdog8141

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Sovereign Soul , Man, Let us enjoy the moment, In the meantime, you better go back to the HIRA caves.

  • @dominicwinterberger1058

    @dominicwinterberger1058

    4 жыл бұрын

    So be it!

  • @wakratek
    @wakratek4 жыл бұрын

    What hurts Islam is not the variances in the Quran, but its their claim that the Quran is preserved.

  • @BrutusAlbion

    @BrutusAlbion

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hitting the core of it, it's very reminiscent of the christian position as well where they made claims which are unsubstantiated. That doesn't necessarily mean the faith is false or the message is no longer valid. Faith goes beyond that but hiding away from the truth can only lead to ruin and deception.

  • @mostafaelhalaby3903

    @mostafaelhalaby3903

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Quran is definitely preserved!

  • @lucrezia8borgias

    @lucrezia8borgias

    4 жыл бұрын

    I disagree, this is the worst thing to happen to Islam, simply because the reverence of the Quran come from people assuming it is the unchanged word of Allah.. people don’t think at all. They just accept! But now if they learn it is not. And start reading.. and realise without the Devine veil the content is miserable, disgusting and ridiculous.. game over! Christianity never had a problem with the content of the book. I don’t want us to forget that the content is more damaging that anything.. but now we can get Muslims to look at the book hopefully objectively! And see the craziness in the book!

  • @lucrezia8borgias

    @lucrezia8borgias

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mostafa Elhalaby yeah me too , I am still a virgin, even though I have twin sons.. it’s a miracle alhamdullilah!

  • @samueldavidras

    @samueldavidras

    4 жыл бұрын

    What surprises me is , how was the lid kept over this for this long?

  • @accuratearrow9135
    @accuratearrow91354 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating Dr Brubaker, looking forward to seeing what else you have discovered!

  • @PreachTheWord1
    @PreachTheWord14 жыл бұрын

    David Wood brought me here. Subbed also.

  • @rationalAfrica

    @rationalAfrica

    4 жыл бұрын

    Me too

  • @lambertfulgence8965

    @lambertfulgence8965

    4 жыл бұрын

    Me too

  • @williamjames212

    @williamjames212

    4 жыл бұрын

    Me too, and I immediately subscribed.

  • @19683

    @19683

    4 жыл бұрын

    #metoo

  • @khiangtelaltluangkima7159

    @khiangtelaltluangkima7159

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same here

  • @tobaiseaton7807
    @tobaiseaton78074 жыл бұрын

    Welcome to youtube Dr Brubaker the content looks amazing

  • @mjordan1117
    @mjordan11174 жыл бұрын

    I'm an ex muslim. I was searching for if the quran has been missing and i saw this video. Thanks, my imam in the uk keeps saying the Quran is 100% preserved words for words. I would show my friend thats sceptic this video. Thanks for this video

  • @restnxist

    @restnxist

    4 жыл бұрын

    Check out CIRA International and Pfanderfilms channels for more on Quran text preservation.

  • @rickblomerus696

    @rickblomerus696

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Ahmed Ftw I am not a muslim and do not understand islam either. Without being rude but in TRUTH we need to ask this question. Why do muslims refuse to accept that the quran have been changed and large portions lost?

  • @TandemSix

    @TandemSix

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Ahmed Ftw the more someone understands Islam,the faster they leave,the only thing that keeps Islam from disintegrating completely is the apostasy law

  • @muhammadpedofilpbuh5250

    @muhammadpedofilpbuh5250

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Ahmed Ftw You probably were not muslim in the first place. You jsut didn't understand islam yep yep yep, keep dreaming son of mutah, even muhammad pbuh not muslim in the fisrt place, why he forbid mutah that allah most love verse surah 4:24

  • @lolomimi4410

    @lolomimi4410

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@pauloriess we not suprised by this comment are we lol

  • @PRAEDICATORVERITATIS
    @PRAEDICATORVERITATIS4 жыл бұрын

    David Wood brought me here. Dr. Brubaker, can I have your permission to add Indonesian subtitle to this video and upload it on my channel? As the largest muslim community in the world, Indonesians should watch this video.

  • @variantquran4505

    @variantquran4505

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for asking. I will try to post a version of this video on this channel with Indonesian subtitles tomorrow so you can share. DB

  • @PRAEDICATORVERITATIS

    @PRAEDICATORVERITATIS

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@variantquran4505 No, I mean I will do the translating, and I ask your permission to do that for this video or your future videos. My channel is not monetized, I do it so that Indonesians who cannot speak English can understand it,. Google/KZread translation is often confusing. I usually do the subtitling for videos of Christian Prince, David Wood, Colin (Islam Critiqued), Apostat Prophet and others.

  • @rawdog8141

    @rawdog8141

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Sovereign Soul , Abdool, I told you to go back to Hira caves

  • @variantquran4505

    @variantquran4505

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@PRAEDICATORVERITATIS Please send me a message at facebook.com/drbru1

  • @eraliaa3219

    @eraliaa3219

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Aprilia Etha Putra Dude,you're desperate. You don't know how ancient biographies work. Herodotus and Tacitus are ancient historians of their time recorded things that are only relevant to subject matters they're after. By the way even Tacitus recorded Pilate’s execution of Jesus on the cross something which Islam claimed 600 years later to be not true which to me speaks of historical ignorance of such religion.

  • @IslamExamined
    @IslamExamined4 жыл бұрын

    Hi Daniel, I was directed here from Dr Jay Smith’s channel where I had also first heard of your book which I purchased immediately, thank you for starting this YourTube venture. Teza from Sydney Australia

  • @adonicordero2252

    @adonicordero2252

    3 жыл бұрын

    Amazing I would like to talk to you

  • @inquisitivemind007

    @inquisitivemind007

    3 жыл бұрын

    Unveiled: Chapter 113 and 114 was not part of the Quran kzread.info/dash/bejne/e6qKt9l6oLTQe7w.html

  • @IslamExamined

    @IslamExamined

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Sheroz Hamid I have been talking to Muslims since 1995 and all of them have been under the illusion; the the Quran they have in their hands is the original with any changes at all. I have known for many years that this claim is totally false but most Muslims are not willing to look at the facts. Kind regards, Teza from Sydney Australia.

  • @IslamExamined

    @IslamExamined

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Sheroz Hamid All you have demonstrated to me by what you have just said is either you are just not well read on your own religions primary documents or not up on the debate in The West, or are just attempting to do damage control for all the holes being pocked into the Islamic account of itself. If you didn’t watch Sheikh Yasir Qadhi recently admit that the line you are putting to me has never held up under examination then I suggest you search the internet and watch the interview with him and Muhammad Hijab. BTW; both Yasir Qadhi and Muhammad Hijab have deleted this interview from their channels because many Muslims were loosing their faith in Islam by hearing something they were never told. Actually for many years I have use Islam’s own primary text to convince Muslims that they have been lied to and some of those Muslims have walked away from Islam! Kind regards, Teza from Sydney Australia

  • @IslamExamined

    @IslamExamined

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Sheroz Hamid If you really watched that entire video interview and you understand the nature of the question Muhammad Hijab was attempting to get answered then you would not be making such comments unless you Just don’t understand the issue or are just trying to do damage control for Islam as I mentioned above. Here is a question for you @Sheroz Hamid: Most of the Muslims in the world (including you I bet!) are using the Arabic Hafs Quran authorised Cairo Egypt 1924. My question for you and all Muslims is ..... Where does it say in your Quran, Sira or Sahih Hadith that the Hafs Arabic version of the Quran is the only one that should be used by Muslims? Who actually did authorise it’s sole use and where did he get such authority? I mean; did an Angel come to him and say, use this Arabic version? Kind regards, Teza from Sydney Australia

  • @xfactor3000
    @xfactor30004 жыл бұрын

    David Wood brought me here

  • @EnderElohim
    @EnderElohim4 жыл бұрын

    Video quality and sound quality is top notch. Congradulations. Lighting have a warm feeling. Lovely. Come from David to say hi and wish you to have more content

  • 4 жыл бұрын

    Agreed 100%. Vid quality superb content uber!🍾🥂👏❣(ps. Just refreshing )

  • @EnderElohim

    @EnderElohim

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Espresso var İçer misin? Yok ben çay içiyom saol :D Aynen keşke Nabeel de aramızda olaydı.

  • @inquisitivemind007

    @inquisitivemind007

    3 жыл бұрын

    Unveiled: Chapter 113 and 114 was not part of the Quran kzread.info/dash/bejne/e6qKt9l6oLTQe7w.html

  • @nabeelyounis7949
    @nabeelyounis79494 жыл бұрын

    This channel should've at least 1 billion subscribers.

  • @discipleaj

    @discipleaj

    4 жыл бұрын

    Underrated comment 😂👏🏻. Completely agree with you!

  • @angeliquenews6081

    @angeliquenews6081

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Erd *11 Differences on ONE PAGE of a Quran Manuscript! + missing breastfeeding viruses eaten by the ALMIGHTY sheep?* 😂 So sad!

  • @sathviksidd

    @sathviksidd

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Erd seriously? You have 0 manuscripts from uthman Your Turkish professors and scholars have admitted this long ago

  • @sathviksidd

    @sathviksidd

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Erd go ahead then, show me the manuscripts from uthman

  • @murtadinkafirun8065

    @murtadinkafirun8065

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Erd you have no proof of that besides a claim from ur corrupted book

  • @glen6494
    @glen64944 жыл бұрын

    Great start. I'm really looking forward to seeing more of your videos. This subject is so important for dialog with Muslims.

  • @ReasonedAnswers
    @ReasonedAnswers4 жыл бұрын

    Excited to see you bringing your excellent research to a broader audience! Subscribed

  • @Raptor3Falcon
    @Raptor3Falcon3 жыл бұрын

    Good sir, you are sincere, knowledgable and gentle. Good luck !

  • @isaiahfiftythree5334
    @isaiahfiftythree53344 жыл бұрын

    Good to see Dr. Brubaker's channel.

  • @charlestee5656
    @charlestee56564 жыл бұрын

    Just got to know about your channel from Dr Jay Smith.

  • @inquisitivemind007

    @inquisitivemind007

    3 жыл бұрын

    Unveiled: Chapter 113 and 114 was not part of the Quran kzread.info/dash/bejne/e6qKt9l6oLTQe7w.html

  • @richardweiss2885
    @richardweiss28854 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely fascinating! We need more of this great work.

  • @jamalkhan3708
    @jamalkhan37083 жыл бұрын

    Ex Muslim Christian from Pakistan here. Thank you sir for all you doing 🙏 shading the light in the darkness of Islam. Helping to gather flock together. God bless you ✊❤️

  • @arunanand2809

    @arunanand2809

    3 жыл бұрын

    Be careful of the jehadis. Take care.

  • @mrman1051

    @mrman1051

    2 жыл бұрын

    Christian? From one cult to another lol

  • @oromoonekoo2445
    @oromoonekoo24454 жыл бұрын

    PLEASE, PLEASE CARFUL!! There monsters out there who try to silence the truth.

  • @terresabauman3897

    @terresabauman3897

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Ahmed Ftw What do you mean exactly Ahmed?

  • @michielvdvlies3315

    @michielvdvlies3315

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Ahmed Ftw man if your house is on fire and we warn you, you'll be screaming stop your lies my house is not on fire??

  • @GloriousAssam

    @GloriousAssam

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, please be safe! Take extra precautions with your life from this point forward. We eagerly await your next videos and books. x

  • @themistersmith

    @themistersmith

    4 жыл бұрын

    No truth here, just misinformation

  • @pamuk7

    @pamuk7

    4 жыл бұрын

    Muslim Response to Qur'anic Textural criticism of Daniel Brubaker Br.Farid Response to Brubaker kzread.info/dash/bejne/i5qFlMSkf5vfZ6Q.html Response to Dr. Tayyar callingchristians.com/2014/11/26/release-a-critical-analysis-of-jay-smiths-mistakes-about-the-quran/ Response to Dan Brubaker callingchristians.com/2019/06/08/corrections-in-early-qur%ca%bean-manuscripts-twenty-examples-dan-brubaker/ Missionary Mishap, on Brubaker callingchristians.com/2019/06/09/missionary-mishap-brubakers-error/ Ijaz Ahmed responds to David Wood and Blubaker m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/c6SgxZmunsbAc84.html Also: mustafasahin33.wordpress.com/2020/06/16/latest-information-on-quranic-preservation-responses/

  • @inquisitivemind007
    @inquisitivemind0074 жыл бұрын

    Do you have any more examples of early manuscripts where corrections are done and it still doesn't match the current Quran?

  • @variantquran4505

    @variantquran4505

    4 жыл бұрын

    Excellent question. Yes, lots of examples. More to come!

  • @h.product5153

    @h.product5153

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@variantquran4505 May our Lord Jesus Christ keep you safe and bless u with His Spirit of excellence and speed in what u have started on KZread. Don't be shy to win the muslims over to Christ, God bless

  • @agffans5725

    @agffans5725

    4 жыл бұрын

    You can not even say that there is only one current Quran ... there are dots, vowels and words that are not the same and that also change the meaning of the text, like in the Hafs Quran 98:6 where it says "Indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures (al bareiyyati).", while in the Warsh Quran 98:6 it says the worst of the 'innocent' (al bare'ati) instead of the worst of 'creatures', so I would like to know, how is it possible for innocent people to also be the worst of creatures ? ... and do the Quran really send innocent non-muslims to the fire of Hell ?, or has the Quran been corrupted in this matter ? In the Hafs Quran 43:19 it says "and they make the angels, who are slaves (ibaadu) of the Beneficent, females" , while in the Rawh Quran 43:19 it does not say slaves (ibaadu) but in the presence (inda), so that it is not only a word that has changed but also the meaning of the text as well, because is it the angels who are slaves who become females ? or is it all angels who are in the presence of the Beneficent who become females ? ... in any case, it's proof that there is no such thing as an exactly preserved Quran on earth, and that has not changed over time... kzread.info/dash/bejne/eGqVybOmn5i1hMY.html

  • @Daniel-xy1fs

    @Daniel-xy1fs

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@variantquran4505 Yay! It's hard to get in my area.

  • @hetrodoxlysonov-wh9oo

    @hetrodoxlysonov-wh9oo

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Ahmed Ftw Name the manuscript?

  • @kitchentableapologist4904
    @kitchentableapologist49044 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for making this information available to all here.

  • @optimusprime5199
    @optimusprime51994 жыл бұрын

    Good explanation. David wood sent me here. Looking forward to see more of your videos.

  • @ellieellie2616
    @ellieellie26164 жыл бұрын

    Got to your channel via David Wood. Thank you for all your work .

  • @TandemSix
    @TandemSix4 жыл бұрын

    I think you are gonna sky rocket quickly Dr. Daniel. We are eager for the next video

  • @rocoreb
    @rocoreb4 жыл бұрын

    welcome to the "free" (cough, cough...) crazy world of youtube. i wish you all the best. a word of warning. do not be surprised if some of your content "annoys" some "objective" overseers down at youtube's HQ.

  • @usafbgartin

    @usafbgartin

    4 жыл бұрын

    Great minds think alike!

  • @prof2yousmithe444

    @prof2yousmithe444

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@usafbgartin You betcha! lol!!!.

  • @prof2yousmithe444

    @prof2yousmithe444

    4 жыл бұрын

    @zomg222 I think they should change their name to "ShariaTube."

  • @GloriousAssam

    @GloriousAssam

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have already archived this video - and will archive all future videos, and am primed on multiple Discord groups to propagate it, were it to mysteriously disappear, or his content become limited state. I encourage you all to do the same! (And share it far and wide in the meantime!)

  • @FRED-gx2qk

    @FRED-gx2qk

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@prof2yousmithe444 CORRECT

  • @RS-rj7ke
    @RS-rj7ke4 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting, especially the connection to the passage from Matthew. Thank you for shedding so much light on this topic. Looking forward to the next video. And please keep publishing videos and books. Your research is absolutely vital.

  • @sairsuphi5429
    @sairsuphi54294 жыл бұрын

    I believe that even fervent advocates of hafs will become appreciative of your work in time.

  • @kymmoore853
    @kymmoore8534 жыл бұрын

    Well done Muhammad Hijab! Ironic that a Muslim should lead so many other Muslims to discover that the Quran is not perfectly preserved by trying to hide the fact by deleting a ‘difficult’ part of an interview. David Wood sent me here but I’ve been fascinated by this since watching Jay Smith. God bless you sir, but be ready for the keyboard Jihadi’s!

  • @kymmoore853

    @kymmoore853

    4 жыл бұрын

    Halal Homer explain then why Jay Smith was able to gather some 24 different Quran’s, all with textual variations that didn’t align with each other and why Shabir Alli was forced to admit that there are various textual variants that ‘don’t affect the doctrine’. There isn’t even a complete Quran of the period, even the oldest Quran’s you have are incomplete and don’t align.

  • @kymmoore853

    @kymmoore853

    4 жыл бұрын

    Halal Homer buddy, Quran ain’t perfectly preserved. Jay doesn’t present his own but rather work from people with doctorates in the field. Sadly though, when you put something on an untouchable pedestal then no amount of evidence will ever be good enough. If

  • @Robangledorf
    @Robangledorf4 жыл бұрын

    Very excited for this channel!

  • @lilacflowerdays
    @lilacflowerdays4 жыл бұрын

    Such a great video. Thank you so much, Dr. Brubaker. I look forward to more.

  • @aimhigh334
    @aimhigh3344 жыл бұрын

    Great work Dr. Brubaker. Expecting more

  • @truthexclusive9769
    @truthexclusive97694 жыл бұрын

    Look Forward to More of these Thank You Dr. Daniel B

  • @chaplainmattsanders4884
    @chaplainmattsanders48844 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your thoughtful scholarship, reasoned approach, and balanced teaching. We look forward to many future uploads!!

  • @ricardogomez1772
    @ricardogomez17724 жыл бұрын

    Dr Brubaker, thumbs up. I’ve been looking forward to learning about your findings from the time you published your research in Rice University. I appreciate your sincerity and desire to present without any agenda what you have found. I hope this and many other messages encourage you to continue sharing and posting your findings in this media. It will be of great help for a large number of people!

  • @ossamahachicho4389
    @ossamahachicho43894 жыл бұрын

    Remarkable achievement. I would suggest that subtitles in arabic be added to reach the hearts and minds in the arab world.

  • @abdullahhussein3775

    @abdullahhussein3775

    4 жыл бұрын

    I do agree! 👍 Such videos shall be available in languages spoken of the most muslim populations to share this valuable knowledge.

  • @inquisitivemind007

    @inquisitivemind007

    3 жыл бұрын

    Unveiled: Chapter 113 and 114 was not part of the Quran kzread.info/dash/bejne/e6qKt9l6oLTQe7w.html

  • @layefamax1308
    @layefamax13084 жыл бұрын

    Awesome!! Really educative. Gonna be addicted to this channel pretty quickly. Shout out to David wood for referring me here.

  • @IAmTheOnlyMrDaryl
    @IAmTheOnlyMrDaryl4 жыл бұрын

    This is the start of something beautiful. Thank you for your service!

  • @GarciaonlyJesus
    @GarciaonlyJesus3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for taking your time doing this!!!

  • @conferenceroom910
    @conferenceroom9104 жыл бұрын

    Excellent presentation Dr Daniel!! Please we need more of this videos.

  • @AirChurch
    @AirChurch4 жыл бұрын

    Swiss cheese holds way more substance than the 'standard narrative' of the quranic preservation.

  • 4 жыл бұрын

    😅🤣😂🍾🥂

  • @rawdog8141

    @rawdog8141

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Sovereign Soul , Go back to the HIRA caves.

  • @dominicwinterberger1058

    @dominicwinterberger1058

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nice to see you again, I see your slogan has not changed!😂

  • @mdc8698

    @mdc8698

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Sovereign Soul That author is a molecular engineer, not a researcher in this field! That's like Math professor reviewing a book on Biology. Lol!

  • @issamedin306

    @issamedin306

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's still far better preserved than the Bible.

  • @dimitrilalushi4693
    @dimitrilalushi46933 жыл бұрын

    Extremely important issues that must be discussed thorougly. Thanks a lot for opening this so informative channel. God's blessing be with you!

  • @TheCastleKeeper
    @TheCastleKeeper4 жыл бұрын

    Commenting for your analytics. Thank you for your hard work!

  • @fredsanford7136
    @fredsanford71364 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Brubaker, thank you for your book and for this video. I just subscribed and look forward to your next video.

  • @williamjames212
    @williamjames2124 жыл бұрын

    I came to your channel from David Woods channel. I am glad that their are differences between Qur'ans.

  • @User-4517

    @User-4517

    4 жыл бұрын

    .... aww david "hammertime" wood sent you here so you can try and claim muslims have 35 qurans lol sorry buddy, try again

  • @williamjames212

    @williamjames212

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@User-4517 I am an Arabic speaker from Sudan, and, no I do not believe their is much differences between those 36 or 20 Qurans to make theological difference. The reason why I came here is because I want to see the differences between Quranic manuscripts and the current one.

  • @peterpan8953

    @peterpan8953

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@williamjames212 Well that's quite funny! Muslims never tired of telling us that there's only ONE Quran which have been perfectly perfectly preserved down to the letter over the centuries because it is the EXACT COPY of the eternal Quran in Heaven with Allah! And suddenly we realize Allah wasn't GOOD at the job of PERFECT PRESERVATION!

  • @KevinSmith126
    @KevinSmith1264 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for making this kind of information public. Please keep posting more examples like this.

  • @joew.2992
    @joew.29924 жыл бұрын

    Great start and a very good work, thank you Dr. Daniel

  • @enriquemarais6129
    @enriquemarais61294 жыл бұрын

    We want more!!! Please.....

  • @barraadhi4802

    @barraadhi4802

    4 жыл бұрын

    ✔️ *FOR THE MUSLIM - ALL 7 AHRUF ARE, AND HAVE BEEN "THE QURAN"...SO WHICHEVER ONE YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE AT HOME, IT IS "THE QURAN"...ALL TRACED BACK TO THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD.* *That being said, what is the Quran and what is meant by Ahruf?* ⁉️ *IS THE AHRUF A SECRET, IS IT TABOO?:* The fact that "Ahruf" is an Arabic term that was used by the Prophet Muhammad in his own lifetime clearly indicates that it is not a hidden secret, be reassured, that it is not a secret. It is an open study of academia in the Islamic world in relation to preservation and transmission of the Quran. It is a field within the Islamic sciences that helps explain what the Ahruf are and why they were introduced, all 7 of them. Ahruf means "readings," and since there were 7 Ahruf, it clearly indicates that there are variations between one Quran and another. However, these variations were also explained by the Prophet Muhammad...who better than him to explain the Ahrufs background? *MY OBJECTION:* My objection is what todays evangelists are doing with the science of Ahruf and totally distorting the picture and imposing upon "Ahruf" this new narrative as if a newly found secret. *HISTORICALLY:* Islamic history has always had this word. From the lifetime of Prophet Muhammad, this term "Ahruf" has been in usage. It has a thorough, written record dating back 1400+ years and it is a topic widely discussed. 📖 *SPECIALISED FIELD OF ISLAMIC SCIENCES:* However, since it is a specialised field, it is not a discussion in every layman's education, it is a discipline that requires time spent as in any educational field. 🔶🔶🔶 *A SIMPLE ANALOGY TO UNDERSTAND THIS POINT - ENGLISH DIALECTS ACROSS THE UK:* The different English dialects, words and terms used across UK; London, Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool, Newcastle, Scotland and Wales...each of these, although English speaking, arguably, have their own key differences, variations and peculiarities etc. ✔️ *SIMPLY EXPLAINED:* The Quran is a message from Allah, it was revealed "piecemeal" in the Qureshi dialect over 23 years. In order for the Quran message to be accessible to the other neighbouring Arab speaking communities in and around Medina, Allah allowed/authorised its reading in 7 different Ahruf (readings) to be able to facilitate the differences between each neighbouring Arab communities differences in dialect, terms and words. *TO EACH THEIR OWN:* To the Qureshi, they had their Ahruf (reading), and similarly, to each different Arab community they were given their own Ahruf, to cover the message being transferred, delivered and more importantly to be understood. *99.9% ARE THE SAME:* 99.9% of the body of Ahruf are the same, the 0.1% differences between each accounts for the variation in the other Arab speaking communities dialects, words, terms etc. *EACH WAS "AUTHORISED" AS AN "INDEPENDENT" QURAN:* The 7 Ahruf were all independently authorised by Allah and therefore taught by the Prophet Muhammad with the allowed differences in his own lifetime. 🔶🔶🔶 *WHATEVER THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD HIMSELF "AUTHORISED" AS A QURAN IS THEREFORE AN "AUTHORISED" QURAN...* Each of the 7 Ahruf were authorised by the Prophet Muhammad in his lifetime, and he, himself, taught the different Arab communities directly as per each Ahruf. *PURPOSE ACHIEVED:* The message of the Quran had to be understood by the neighbouring Arab communities in its fullness. In order for that to happen, it needed tailoring and so the 7 Ahruf were tailored for that individual neighbouring Arab community. So these 7 Ahruf helped to better assist those non-Quraishi speaking Arabs. ✔️ *CORE MESSAGE AND THEOLOGY:* The message, the theology, the law, and the rulings were not affected by any of these changes, instead it gave all these various tribes a common document with the same message, theology, law and rulings. ⚠️ *WHAT CHANGES?* The meaning of the sentences in ALL of these cases do not change. Only sensationalising, drumrolls and click-bait titles try to make it bigger than it is but it becomes an anti-climax once the viewer realises what is being presented by the presenter (it becomes apparently clear that they are charlatans with deception at the forefront to misguide people). I can appreciate honest academia work. As for disinformation and misinformation that I clearly find abhorrent, however, the likes of certain individuals are cashing in on people's vulnerabilities. None of what they say can stand up in academic circles. But on this platform YT, that caters for sensationalism, click-bait and entertainment, well the vulnerable audience is already there. *SYSTEM:* Whatever the system differences for each Ahruf, that system then consistently remains in that Ahruf (reading)...Think back to the analogy of different English dialects, terms and word usage (see whether a sentence 🤔 *AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE 0.1% CHANGE COULD LOOK LIKE:* Eg coming home, will be there shortly I'm coming home, I will be there shortly I'm gonna be home shortly Shortly I'll be home Going home (any of these variations gould be a legitimate "sentence structure" for a particular English audience, now imagine a Cockney, black country, Manc, scouse, etc having their own particularities about that sentence!?). Try a different sentence. *RECAPPED!!!* *THE AHRUF EXPLANATION:* Simply put, the 7 Ahruf were authorised readings of the Quran by the Prophet Muhammad in his "lifetime." All 7 Ahruf, are each, an independent "authorised" Quran reading. *IN SHORT:* The Prophet Muhammad lived in Mecca for the first thirteen years of his Prophethood. For the last ten years, he migrated to Medina (around 100+ other Meccans had also migrated to Medina...by the time of his death there will be over 10,000+ new Muslims, some with completely different languages). *MECCA MULTIPLE TRIBES:* In Mecca the different Arab tribes had a general, as well as varied dialects. *MECCA "QURESHI" DIALECT:* In Mecca, Prophet Muhammad's dialect was the "Qureshi" dialect, and the Quran was revealed over the full 23 years in the Qureshi dialect. *MEDINA 7 AHRUFS (READINGS):* Once in Medina, some 200 miles away, the now neighbouring Arab communities had different dialects, words and terms and so needed certain words to be translated for the Medina region Arabs. *IN THE FINAL YEARS BEFORE HIS DEATH...ALLAH GIVES PERMISSION FOR 7 AHRUF (EACH INDEPENDENTLY AN "AUTHORISED" QURAN):* The Prophet Muhammad asked Allah to grant permission for an ease in allowing these other tribes to be able to understand the message of the Quran too. Allah authorised it in this way by allowing those words particular to that tribe to be changed for that "new" community to now understand the message. The subsequent 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th Ahruf (readings) came about because the "new communities" that he came to, in the Medina region and beyond, had different neighbouring Arab tribes with varying dialects and terms. In this way, Allah allowed changes that were subsequently known as the 7 Ahruf (readings) in total. The Qureshi Ahruf dialect/terms being the first, and the other 6 Ahruf dialect/terms catering for each of the other tribes that were at a distance from Medina. *WHOLE BODY OF COMPLETE WORK:* In each Ahruf, 99.9% of the words, text and message were all the same. As for the 0.1%, varied words, terms, pronunciations etc, these became specific to that particular Ahruf, and now that tribe could fully understand the message (each could choose to use any of the 7 Ahruf, that they deemed easy for them). Some companions subsequently learned more than one Ahruf. *WORD ORDER SWITCHED...SYNONYMS, ETC TO ASSIST THE LANGUAGE DIFFERENCE:* Word order appears in different European languages where verbs, nouns and adjectives are repositioned to make sense of a sentence from one language into another. Synonyms are used to give an additional description (these are simply the only things that happened with regards to the Ahruf). ✔️ *THEOLOGY, DOCTRINES, LAWS, RULINGS DIDN'T ALTER!!!*

  • @lancesteinke3732
    @lancesteinke37324 жыл бұрын

    The lack of Muslim comments on here speaks volumes lol.

  • @worldchanger7197

    @worldchanger7197

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ikr ahaha

  • @worldchanger7197

    @worldchanger7197

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Munching pap he is a potato.

  • @rawdog8141

    @rawdog8141

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Munching pap , And Sovereign

  • @carrie1114

    @carrie1114

    4 жыл бұрын

    There on Twitter forming an excuse, and an assault.

  • @rpdsouza1957

    @rpdsouza1957

    4 жыл бұрын

    There are a few Abdools who commented, but as usual , they are very dumb comments, sweeping criticisms without basis.

  • @HatchDigitalGH
    @HatchDigitalGH4 жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to more videos. I am already familiar with other works showing all sort of variations in manuscripts. Your work reinforces the idea that the other works were being truthful

  • @tonycostaification
    @tonycostaification4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Dr. Brubaker for your video and channel. Your content is fascinating. Blessings.

  • @lucassiyabongamphela2213
    @lucassiyabongamphela22134 жыл бұрын

    Will check my budget to see if I could get your book this month end. There are Muslims I must attend to.

  • @inquisitivemind007

    @inquisitivemind007

    3 жыл бұрын

    Unveiled: Chapter 113 and 114 was not part of the Quran kzread.info/dash/bejne/e6qKt9l6oLTQe7w.html

  • @zhivkogeorgiev254
    @zhivkogeorgiev2544 жыл бұрын

    Hey, just came from David's video.. Thank you for your efforts of exposing the Quran. I am definitely subscribed for you, wish you many blessings🙏🙂

  • @maryumbargola3267
    @maryumbargola32673 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your work sir. God bless your channel.

  • @aberhan
    @aberhan4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this site. It is greatly needed. All the best wishes for your continued work and success. 👍

  • @user-es6ww3qj9r
    @user-es6ww3qj9r4 жыл бұрын

    Great Work!

  • @rationalphobia5533
    @rationalphobia55334 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Dr. Brubaker. Your research is highly needed to expose the claim of "perfect" preservation of quran.

  • @mdc8698
    @mdc86984 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Dr. Brubaker for your pioneering work!

  • @ellismaytham456
    @ellismaytham4563 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the great video. Well done

  • @stefanscheepers6737
    @stefanscheepers67374 жыл бұрын

    Here from Acts17apologetics 🙋🏼‍♂️ The avalanche of apostasy from the religion of lies is gaining steam. The harvest is ready for the reaping brothers and sisters a harvest we did not work for. Let us grab at the opportunity to lead our current muslim brothers and sisters to the truth, to the King who reigns forever! to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ be the Kingdom and the power and the glory forever

  • @HT008

    @HT008

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nah we’re good. You can believe in a man god as much as you want. We’ll stick to believing in the one true god!

  • @inquisitivemind007

    @inquisitivemind007

    3 жыл бұрын

    Unveiled: Chapter 113 and 114 was not part of the Quran kzread.info/dash/bejne/e6qKt9l6oLTQe7w.html

  • @samcgilbert
    @samcgilbert4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! This is very interesting.

  • @Dedicated1Always
    @Dedicated1Always4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing your work with us.

  • @leiflohne3096
    @leiflohne30964 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this channel. Great work

  • @debbiedavid388
    @debbiedavid3884 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your hard work. Stay safe and blessed 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽❤️😘😘😘❤️❤️❤️

  • @prof2yousmithe444
    @prof2yousmithe4444 жыл бұрын

    I found your channel via Dr. David Wood's KZread Channel, Acts 17 Apologetics. I truly appreciate your time and effort in this field. To mimic other posts, "some" people will become rather rudely "annoyed" at some of this but hold fast! I subscribed. Looking forward to more!

  • @MimiGenX1977

    @MimiGenX1977

    3 жыл бұрын

    Prof2You Smithe I too came to this channel through David wood. I thank God for these men who purpose in their heart to use their Gifts, talents, and abilities to share what they know and have studied with us via these excellent videos.

  • @inquisitivemind007

    @inquisitivemind007

    3 жыл бұрын

    Unveiled: Chapter 113 and 114 was not part of the Quran kzread.info/dash/bejne/e6qKt9l6oLTQe7w.html

  • @RomanoPRODUCTION
    @RomanoPRODUCTION4 жыл бұрын

    May your good work spread and your channel grow for the sake of everyone 💟

  • @sachinkainth9508
    @sachinkainth95084 жыл бұрын

    Great work sir, thank you for all your efforts.

  • @passiveincome905
    @passiveincome9054 жыл бұрын

    Great commentary. Good to see academics coming into this issue to inform popular discourse.

  • @danielbuller117
    @danielbuller1174 жыл бұрын

    I'm here because David Wood told me to check your video out.

  • @mrkay6813

    @mrkay6813

    4 жыл бұрын

    Me too.

  • @peterpan8953

    @peterpan8953

    4 жыл бұрын

    Me too!😂

  • @abraham1124
    @abraham11244 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for all of your hard work Mr Brubaker!

  • @sojernon8689
    @sojernon86894 жыл бұрын

    Very fascinating, doctor! Thank you for sharing, looking forward to more videos!

  • @benchristian2655
    @benchristian26554 жыл бұрын

    Keep up the good work!

  • @jean-michelb7290
    @jean-michelb72904 жыл бұрын

    I'm from David's channel, thanks for all these informations.

  • @Raj-ns3dz
    @Raj-ns3dz4 жыл бұрын

    Excellent dispassionate arguments. May you channel grow

  • @Tatiana-cp1fc
    @Tatiana-cp1fc4 жыл бұрын

    A fantastic first video. Looking forward to many more. Thank you for doing this.

  • @theguyver4934

    @theguyver4934

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't mind you criticizing islam but what i do mind is the false pagan trinity and i don't that you have to be a muslim to believe that why not be a unitarian christian (biblical) and still think islam is false

  • @sup2320
    @sup23204 жыл бұрын

    This guy is gonna need a security detail after this lol. Stay safe buddy.

  • @imailpradeep

    @imailpradeep

    4 жыл бұрын

    May God Almighty keep you safe and blessed always

  • @truthexclusive9769

    @truthexclusive9769

    4 жыл бұрын

    Halal Homer why did people write over the writings , corrections , aren’t they supposed to treat it carefully , Respect it ? It’s not a scribbling paper, it’s writing Quran and need to be preserved. Putting this aside , where are the 7 Ahruf’s?why does Muslims scholars don’t like to be poked on this, and if you ask more questions they might even silence you my friend!! Think about it , you in Yemen or Pakistan or Saudi and asking this in mosques

  • @djaflo

    @djaflo

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@halalhomer this much (negative) criticism...while your only credit so far is writing posts here on youtube

  • @gazzamc1255

    @gazzamc1255

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@halalhomer you forgot to mention who easily refuted Daniel. Is it the case that someone said that someone said that a dead person said that his cousin's hair dresser said that someone said 'Daniel has pointed out.........'

  • @gazzamc1255

    @gazzamc1255

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@halalhomer I suggest you do some reading of your own or better still do your own research to back up your claims that Doctor Daniel's has been refuted. Refute him if you can.

  • @Weissguys6
    @Weissguys64 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, sir, for all your hard work in the name of truth.

  • @eternaldengtahim9609
    @eternaldengtahim96094 жыл бұрын

    Heard much of your work from Dr Jay Smith’s video. Glad to hear directly from you on your excellence scholarship on the early Quranic manuscripts. Looking forward to learn more. God bless!

  • @truthmatters7573
    @truthmatters75734 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Looking forward to more of this :)

  • @codyaimes4354
    @codyaimes43544 жыл бұрын

    Interesting. I didn't know any of that. I have a friend who says "the Qur'an is perfectly preserved" but I don't think he has really ever read it. He could find this educational. Look forward to seeing more vids.

  • @kristygemchua

    @kristygemchua

    4 жыл бұрын

    This topic is blowing up because, an Islamic scholar Yasir Qadi recently admitted that the Quran is not preserved during a KZread interview with Mohammad Hijab

  • @kdkdk6292

    @kdkdk6292

    4 жыл бұрын

    Check out Dr David Wood for more information

  • @user-zd8ox5ho5j

    @user-zd8ox5ho5j

    4 жыл бұрын

    Matthew 24:6 [6]And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. India and China are in a border clash. Some fear this will lead to WW3. Jesus warned of wars and rumors of wars in the end times. We are very near the end of this World. Next Stop: Prophecies that has happened and Prophecies that is happening now.

  • @codyaimes4354

    @codyaimes4354

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@halalhomer who is David Wood? Do you watch his videos? Should I?

  • @DYKWINNING

    @DYKWINNING

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@codyaimes4354 kzread.info/dash/bejne/onqjmMion9fLgco.html

  • @bmw635csi
    @bmw635csi4 жыл бұрын

    Dr Brubaker , Great Video on this topic. Your research is starting to provide clarity on the Authenticity of present time Quranic texts. Do you have plan to translate your current book in other languages? God Bless you and Stay safe

  • @variantquran4505

    @variantquran4505

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, there is a French translation in process right now. I am open to others, but need translators who are capable, including the technical terms. If you have a language of interest and can refer translators, please let us know at www.danielbrubaker.com. Thanks! DB

  • @theguyver4934

    @theguyver4934

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@variantquran4505 - One question are there really some word orders that change the meaning of the theology sincerely from a muslim

  • @variantquran4505

    @variantquran4505

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@theguyver4934 I'm not sure. At this point I am dealing mainly with observing and describing the text itself. Thanks for the question, and best wishes to you.

  • @theguyver4934

    @theguyver4934

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@variantquran4505 - Your welcome

  • @turald.4482

    @turald.4482

    Жыл бұрын

    @@variantquran4505 Hello Dr Brubaker , we have decided to translate your videos for Russian-speaking Christians. You do not mind? We really like your videos)

  • @plden2442
    @plden24424 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, looking forward to more. Just the stuff we need

  • @hallelujahize
    @hallelujahize4 жыл бұрын

    So excited to you see on KZread. Heard so much about you from Dr. Jay Smith, also read your book. Eagerly waiting for the 2nd book. God bless.

  • @Alphaomega0909
    @Alphaomega09094 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations DR.Daniel for the new channel As an arabic apologists and polemicist,we were in much need for an English native speaker for such topics ,blessings,praying for you .

  • @Neorient

    @Neorient

    4 жыл бұрын

    I like Pope Shenoudah. Prophet of Islam said love them for Hagar and Mary the Coptic.

  • @henktmmr
    @henktmmr4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for exposing lies and revealing truth! Be blessed and keep up the good work please.

  • @DerMelodist
    @DerMelodist4 жыл бұрын

    Wood sent us! Thank you, Dr. Brubaker. This is fantastic research and material.

  • @CSLGSKS
    @CSLGSKS4 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Keep it up!

  • @mrkay6813
    @mrkay68134 жыл бұрын

    David Wood brought me here. Great job Dr Brubaker!

  • @bornagain1107
    @bornagain11074 жыл бұрын

    🔥🔥This very well may be a top 5 contender for the truth, on the falsify of perfect Quran preservation, on KZread. Excellent video sir! Thank you much 😎

  • @islamicclarity7062
    @islamicclarity70624 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your work Dr. Stay safe!

  • @zmc99vdb
    @zmc99vdb4 жыл бұрын

    Hello Mr. Daniël, amazing and mindblowing, as i watched and saw (this rather short version) the importance of your work and you also sharing it to the world for everybody to see. Scriptures whoom are so old and fragile and yet the power of those papers is huge.... And so wonderful that God made it possible for you, that you are able to research and study them. Keep up the wonderful works you do and please share your findings.

  • @gtb393
    @gtb3934 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating, that is such a good spot, both the missing words and Matthew connection. I suspect this represents a tradition that lacked the words. Otherwise 3 people (scribe and 2 correctors) would all have missed it. I guess it's possible the correctors saw insufficient room to add the missing words. Would be interesting whether or not there are any pages elsewhere where 2 or 3 word corrections have been squeezed in.

  • @kamalpaul7785
    @kamalpaul77854 жыл бұрын

    ENLIGHTENING!

  • @johnbailey9576
    @johnbailey95764 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all your work

  • @hichamboulos1155
    @hichamboulos11554 жыл бұрын

    Great start! Methodological and clear. Keep it flowing.

  • @yahya0510
    @yahya05104 жыл бұрын

    Just know of your research and channel through Dr David Wood, keep it up and you have my subscription

  • @olanipekunonatemowo4452
    @olanipekunonatemowo44524 жыл бұрын

    David Wood recommended this channel. Let’s learn from Daniel Brubaker phd

  • @PerlyPerdomoP
    @PerlyPerdomoP4 жыл бұрын

    Subscribed! Can't wait to see more of this!

  • @restnxist
    @restnxist4 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful to hear from you. We have been following your research from Al-Fadi, Hatun, and Jay Smith's discussions. Thanks to Yasir Qadi for his honesty as well.