You are doing an amazing work for sake of academia. I salute your professional and honest disposition. And I hope you keep that paramount. As an arabic speaker and a muslim, I find this work fascinating. While I do understand why some fellow muslims find this sensitive, I think it's important to hear what you find and what you have to say. You said it sir, we are all humans and we all do mistakes and so did the early scribes.

@variantquran4505

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Best wishes, DB

@sylvanabecker5533

3 жыл бұрын

n - thank you for your opinion and honesty. As a human and Christian it is much appreciated!

"Humans make mistakes" is a surprisingly controversial statement. 👍

@arulsammymankondar30

3 жыл бұрын

It could be controversial only if you think either human beings are infallible or Brubaker is candid to admit his limitations .

@joseywales3789

3 жыл бұрын

@Arulsammy Mankondar, Yes! And I used to have a superiority complex.... But now I'm perfect!

@exposingcp6943

3 жыл бұрын

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Imagine IQSA in a couple more years...

@exposingcp6943

3 жыл бұрын

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@MohamedIlNasrani

3 жыл бұрын

They won't be teaching this stuff, that's for sure.

@exposingcp6943

3 жыл бұрын

#1: Bible is a Book of Books. Out of MANY, only "4" Gospels were selected by Church to be a part of the Bible in the NT. #2: None of the Gospels were written by the direct eye-witness #3: The 1st written Gospel was by what the Church thinks as Mark because they found the name Mark on the manuscript BUT this manuscript is NOT from the 1st Century. The EARLIEST manuscript is several later. The original is either lost/destroyed. #4: The Gospel written by "beloved of Jesus", whom the Church thinks as "John" mentioned things that were NOT mentioned by other Gospels. He/They introduced new concepts. #5: If the HS, was guiding the scribes, then why blunders in Bible. #6: What did RSV Bible mention in the Preface? Do you know? Was the scholarship behind the RSV compilation bunch of ignorant folks? Why do they declare that the KJV has SERIOUS ERRORS as the manuscripts upon which KJV was based had verses ADDED TO IT. This was proven when manuscripts OLDER than these manuscripts were found . #7: What about the ALREADY CONFIRMED corruption in Bible about for example: 1 John 5:7-8 [Johannes Comma], Story of adulteress, Handling snakes and drinking poison, etc. #8: Laymen Christians claim "WE HAVE ENTIRE NT MANUSCRIPTS” numbering in 6000. Unfortunately none of two manuscripts are similar. The copies have several issues in the writing (Not including the scribal human errors) #9: Michael Servetus was a sixteenth century Spanish theologian whose interpretations of the Bible brought him into conflict with the Church. In 1531 CE, Servetus published the book “Errors of the Trinity”, in which he said those who believed in the Trinity were really Tritheists (believers in three gods). He was condemned as a heretic and burnt alive atop a pyre of his own books #10: Christians should STOP the violation of the 1st commandment and accept Islaam since we are living in the times of Prophet Muhammad and there will no prophet to come till the Day of Judgment. These are few points why Book of Books is corrupted. I am not even including scientific error. The above few points are sufficient for a wise person to ponder.

@henkh63

3 жыл бұрын

@@exposingcp6943 Okay, so much for the Bible. How about some refultation of the video you are (not) responding to?

@exposingcp6943

3 жыл бұрын

@@henkh63 INSHALLAH. GOD WILLING. It requires a LOT of study to first understand before I respond. I am not a scholar. I need to study and this will be a continuous process till death GOD WILLING. For immediate answers, Shabbir Ally had already responded to scribal error and grammar related subject. Also Brother Mansour of Speaker corner U.K had also responded with proofs that Dr Brubaker is lacking Arabic grammar fundamental rulings.

The more the bucket is stirred, the more it will stink.

@exposingcp6943

3 жыл бұрын

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@tzadik36

3 жыл бұрын

@@exposingcp6943 Born & reared in Pakistan; Urdu was a requied language is school. السلام علیکم؟

@exposingcp6943

3 жыл бұрын

@@tzadik36 Wa'alaikumsalam brother

Welcome to the Arab-Islamic world, where denouncing any idea begins with looking for mistakes as a basic rule, followed by personalizing matters

@exposingcp6943

3 жыл бұрын

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@noorlight4436

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the Christians mindset, where they will believe just about anything!

@ASHORSHEMAYA

3 жыл бұрын

@@exposingcp6943 You are repeating yourself, man, do you not have anything else, oh yes it is true they all repeat the same lies until it appears true

@ASHORSHEMAYA

3 жыл бұрын

@@noorlight4436 Exactly, we are the ones who believe that Solomon was talking to an ant or that a person flew to the seventh heaven on the back of a flying donkey when no one saw him.🤣🤣

@Sofian375

3 жыл бұрын

@@ASHORSHEMAYA Are you an atheist? They make the same jokes about Biblical events...

Thank you Dr. Brubaker for sharing your studies and research through your videos. You have enlightened or should I say corrected part of history and what was taught in schools and universities. I have always been interested and facinated about different types of religions. This came about in my college days when I took research jobs for professionals trying to acquire their doctorate degree. They didn't have the time while I didn't have the dime. It was those times when I learned a little knowhow to do research. And this is also why I would like to commend you for your work but more importantly, your objectivity and ethics. My admiration goes out to you Sir. I can only hope all the best for you and your endeavours. I am already passed the prime of my life and way passed dreaming of becoming like you. However, should you reach the point to a decisive conclusion in your quest for the truth, I hope to still be alive to share your victory. Looking forward to watch more of your unfolding. God Speed!

Keep going Daniel

@exposingcp6943

3 жыл бұрын

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@exposingcp6943

3 жыл бұрын

#1: Bible is a Book of Books. Out of MANY, only "4" Gospels were selected by Church to be a part of the Bible in the NT. #2: None of the Gospels were written by the direct eye-witness #3: The 1st written Gospel was by what the Church thinks as Mark because they found the name Mark on the manuscript BUT this manuscript is NOT from the 1st Century. The EARLIEST manuscript is several later. The original is either lost/destroyed. #4: The Gospel written by "beloved of Jesus", whom the Church thinks as "John" mentioned things that were NOT mentioned by other Gospels. He/They introduced new concepts. #5: If the HS, was guiding the scribes, then why blunders in Bible. #6: What did RSV Bible mention in the Preface? Do you know? Was the scholarship behind the RSV compilation bunch of ignorant folks? Why do they declare that the KJV has SERIOUS ERRORS as the manuscripts upon which KJV was based had verses ADDED TO IT. This was proven when manuscripts OLDER than these manuscripts were found . #7: What about the ALREADY CONFIRMED corruption in Bible about for example: 1 John 5:7-8 [Johannes Comma], Story of adulteress, Handling snakes and drinking poison, etc. #8: Laymen Christians claim "WE HAVE ENTIRE NT MANUSCRIPTS” numbering in 6000. Unfortunately none of two manuscripts are similar. The copies have several issues in the writing (Not including the scribal human errors) #9: Michael Servetus was a sixteenth century Spanish theologian whose interpretations of the Bible brought him into conflict with the Church. In 1531 CE, Servetus published the book “Errors of the Trinity”, in which he said those who believed in the Trinity were really Tritheists (believers in three gods). He was condemned as a heretic and burnt alive atop a pyre of his own books #10: Christians should STOP the violation of the 1st commandment and accept Islaam since we are living in the times of Prophet Muhammad and there will no prophet to come till the Day of Judgment. These are few points why Book of Books is corrupted. I am not even including scientific error. The above few points are sufficient for a wise person to ponder.

@MohamedIlNasrani

3 жыл бұрын

@A Proud Believer Ijaz Ahmed is not a textual critic and in all honesty lacks adab. Thanks but no thanks, all respect for him went out the window when he started using foul language and threatened people's lives by doxxing them.

An absolute gentleman.

Dear Dr. Dan, we are praying for you, so keep strong and courageous. The Lord is your strength.

As a muslim, I appreciate your honest, objective and hard work... keep it up! May Allah shows you the way.

@variantquran4505

Жыл бұрын

I take this as a sincere compliment. Much appreciated.

@ME-yp7fn

Жыл бұрын

The Quran is transmitting from the day one till today through the mutual-asserted sources النقل المتواتر, means that all Muslims have to memorize the Quran without the need of a manuscript, you can't learn the Quran by just reading it without a teacher to guide you through its proper pronunciations. Second this video didn't mention the multiple readings القراءات of the Quran in which Allah made it easy for early Muslims whom come from different Arab tribes, mostly illiterate, to recite the Quran in theirs dialect. There isn't many versions of the Quran, as this video suggest, but MANY READINGS that all agree on the meaning with minor differences. The multiple readings in the Quran is existing in the Uthmanic Mushaf as much as the Uthmanic rasm الرسم font can stand it. Uthman sent a teacher with each copy of the Quran to teach the Muslims how to recite it properly, it wasn't send it as some suggest for people to figure out how to recite it on their own. Finally, the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) not only recite the Quran to the Muslims but he used have many scribes wrote the Quran on whatever materials they had, therefore the Quran was preserved through memorization and writing from the beginning. Anyone wants to compare the Quran with the New Testament should read, The Orthodox Corruption of Scripture: The Effect of Early Christological Controversies on the Text of the New Testament by Bart D. Ehrman to appreciate the miracle of the Quran preservation, Allah says in the Quran "9. Surely We [Allah] revealed the Message, and We will surely preserve it." [Quran 15:9] إِنَّا نَحْنُ نَزَّلْنَا الذِّكْرَ وَإِنَّا لَهُ لَحَافِظُونَ (9)" سورة الحجر " For whom they want know the truth of the Quran, I recommend this book: The History of The Qur'anic Text: From Revelation to Compilation: A Comparative Study with the Old and New Testaments by Muhammad Mustafa Al-Azami A contradiction if the verse said two different meanings at the same time. To understand the Quran, you need to take the Quran in totality plus use the authenticated sound Hadith to support your understanding of the Quran. Again, there are no versions of Quran, but readings (aka recitations) also you have no clue of the styles of the Arabic language and how it does work, for example the a sentence can be written in various ways with the same exact meanings or slight difference in one word that support each other meanings in the other readings, that is why the Ten recitations is very important tool in Quran exegesis . Even Muslim scholars wrote books about this multiple readings, and any good reciter of the Quran aware of them. Theology is about God, jurisprudence is about laws that govern believers in this world, again read more about the Jewish traditions, Christianity doesn't know this type of difference, I guess!! The Theology of Quran is one, pure monotheism, but the jurisprudence can be different in degree not quality, you can say that all Muslims don't eat pork, they pray, they fast, but they can be different legal rules regarding minor things that vary according to circumstances and conditions making Sharia Law (Islamic Law) flexible to time and place. This hadith shows that this recitations/facets go back to the prpohet himself: ‘Umar ibn al-Khattāb (may Allah be pleased with him) reported: I heard Hishām ibn Hakīm recite Sūrat al-Furqān during the lifetime of the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him). I listened to his recitation and noticed that he recited it in many ways which the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) had not taught me. So I was about to jump upon him during the prayer, but I waited till he finished the prayer, whereupon I seized him by either his upper garment or mine and asked him: "Who taught you how to recite this Sūrah?" He replied: "The Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) taught me how to recite it." So I said to him: "You have told a lie! By Allah, the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) taught me this Sūrah which I have heard you recite." So I set forth, leading him to the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him). I said: "O the Messenger of Allah, I heard this man recite Sūrat al-Furqān in ways which you have not taught me, and you taught me how to recite it." On that, the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) said: "O ‘Umar, let go of him! Recite, O Hishām." So Hishām recited before him in the way I had heard him recite. the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) said: "It was revealed like this." Then the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) said: "Recite, O ‘Umar!" So I recited it. The Prophet (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) said: "It was revealed like this." And then he added: "Indeed, this Qur’an has been revealed in seven different ways, so recite it in the way that is easy for you." Sahih/Authentic. - [Al-Bukhari and Muslim] Anyway, the Quran exactly addresses people like you, Allah says in the Quran: "7. It is He who revealed to you the Book. Some of its verses are definitive; they are the foundation of the Book, and others are unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation, they follow the unspecific part, seeking dissent, and seeking to derive an interpretation. But none knows its interpretation except God and those firmly rooted in knowledge say, “We believe in it; all is from our Lord.” But none recollects except those with understanding." [Quran 3:7]

To get this reaction you're doing a good job. Love how polite you are too.

Keep doing what you’re sir. Love your work. God bless

@exposingcp6943

3 жыл бұрын

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@abutalhs6648

9 ай бұрын

Dr. Marijn van Putten. Quran manuscript expert Dr Marijn van Putten explains the scribal mistakes in the 4 Uthmanic codices kzread.info/dash/bejne/apOXxbJmo5qdldI.html Oldest' Koran found in Birmingham - BBC News. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nKOrs9GnlJrFhag.html ======== PROF/ PASTOR. BART EHRMAN ON GOSPEL . Dr. Bart Ehrman Destroys The Crucifixion and The Resurrection History. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZX55y6ioYK_Imqw.html

As for the content of your previous video, did you compare the variants you spotted in that manuscript to predating manuscripts?, if yes, what was the result? (Thank you so much).

@variantquran4505

3 жыл бұрын

No, I did not take that step with that video. It was just a survey of a page to show what corrections exist. Such a thing as you suggest would be a natural next step if we were to do a full consideration and analysis. DB.

If we are being fair first we must read your book, then we must read Sydkys review and compare his critiques to your book, then we must compare your book, his review and your response all side by side and make up our minds. From your videos I can see that you are showing the Manuscripts of the past based on your long years of studies. From the videos I have seen, even I can see there have been deliberate scribal manipulation’s on some pieces.

@tdsdave

3 жыл бұрын

Danial's response pdf is worth a read in isolation . The "review" his book was subjected to described in that pdf alone seems more like a hit piece than anything. Of course if we are able to do the full analysis we should. I myself have little faith any work in this field will be treated as we should expect in an academic arena by invested Muslims.

@exposingcp6943

3 жыл бұрын

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@ShepherdsHook

3 жыл бұрын

Those who know only their side, Knows only half of the argument.

@JoeSmith-bz9to

3 жыл бұрын

I did reply to you earlier but KZread must have deleted my comment! I did read parts of Dr Brubakers response and he does quote the review. I agree with him in principle when he says it is not academic work that is being critiqued. I agree with your point that Muslims will not make an effort to listen to historical evidence by Dr Daniel Brubaker, Dr Shady Nasser and Dr Daniel Gibson just to name a few. At least we know the truth, at least we know we can tell the lost sheeps whom are atheists or Christians with weak knowledge of Biblical Doctrine that hey if you think we are lying then check out all of this historical evidence against this Muslims claims from his sources. Perhaps we can turn the tide on the one side. Perhaps the other side will become more curious and search for the truth with technology and we can turn the tide on the other side as well! It can go from from fastest growing to fastest shrinking. No matter what the truth will prevail!

@exposingcp6943

3 жыл бұрын

@@ShepherdsHook I invite you to Islam. You cannot say tomorrow (Day of Judgement) that you were not informed about Islam. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks

I appreciate your work as a scholar, also the manner in which you express your views.Thank you.

As a Muslim I find your channel fascinating. However I should add, I don't take away from your work what most of your ardent Christian followers and Muslim bashing base seem to take away. I think more Muslims should follow your channel, you shed light and tell us alot about our history.

@variantquran4505

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words. DB

@theguyver4934

3 жыл бұрын

Finally a muslim who thinks like me 😍

@pinpoint3770

3 жыл бұрын

there is good in investigating: more knowledge may lead you to leaving islam

@faisalwho

3 жыл бұрын

@@pinpoint3770 to the contrary, more knowledge has only affirmed my faith. Truth stands out clearly from falsehood.

@pinpoint3770

3 жыл бұрын

@@faisalwho keep on listening to the Truth

Hi , I am a muslim, researching and considering truth. I have commented here before. I wasn't aware of the review however , I think a response should have been allowed even if it was short or with conditions. A second option could have been for the author of the review to open a live scholarly youtube dialogue . A third option would have been to suggest another platform/forum for a critique and response between you two. I am for learning and truth. I will continue to follow your work provided it is scholarly and respectful, even where I disagree or find error. Education and review is useful. Be Well.

@letmetalk2240

3 жыл бұрын

👍👍👍

@variantquran4505

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Mark. I appreciate these comments and agree with the general sentiments. Ultimately, a carefully considered response paper is probably the best thing in the current situation. Best wishes, DB

@sylvanabecker5533

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for responding in a such a respectful manner and having an open mind! It’s a rarity when discussing religion. Peace.

@markward3981

3 жыл бұрын

@@sylvanabecker5533 Welcome.

@theguyver4934

6 ай бұрын

@@markward3981 I'm so glad to see that there honest muslims like me

How come YQ cannot respond like Dr. DB does. Dr DB responds in a scholarly manner contrary to YQ with Phd

@lucashenzo3023

3 жыл бұрын

Because his(YQ) foundation is a sinking sand and if he agitates too much he would sink his cult deeper into the holes.

@exposingcp6943

3 жыл бұрын

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@oprophetisfake9482

3 жыл бұрын

What YQ really believes came out in his interview with Mohammed Hijab. You may consider it a fudge but it really is the only answer for a Muslim trying to hold together his faith in the face of all the qira'ats evidence. He simply throws up his hands and says I accept them all. The real problem is with unknowledgeable Muslims who like Uthman want to destroy all evidence that does not fit with what they want to believe. Because of this there were many criticisms and vilifications of YQ that were so bad he has had to try and take back his words.

@exposingcp6943

3 жыл бұрын

@@oprophetisfake9482 Accept Islam before its too late. Enough of gambling with your life. Research and learn about Islaam but not from newspapers, magazines, cartoons, enemies of Islaam etc. but from scholars of Islaam. You cannot complain on the day of judgement that nobody mentioned to you to accept Islaam.

@Logia1978

3 жыл бұрын

@@oprophetisfake9482 Muslim claim: The standard quran we have today is preserved and goes word for word to the most anciant manuscripts and the mushaf of Othman. Is this claim true... absolutely according to the consensus of western scholars.... This claim is false Only for those who have no idea of what they are talking about and think that a scribe error is a corruption and evolution in the transmission of the quran....

Does anyone know if the aleph has to be transliterated as a ʾ or can it be transliterated as a ’ also?

Dr. Brubaker, a technical note regarding KZread: Thank you for putting timecodes in your video description however KZread's chapters feature (where splits in the progress bar are visible at chapter divisions) will not activate unless the first timecode in the list is 0:00.

@variantquran4505

3 жыл бұрын

Very good - I will adjust now. Thank you so much for that tip, Nate. DB

You are doing great work and educating multiple communities, well done, keep going please.

We are following your work

A humble scholar. Amazing!

Keep up the good work, its nice to see detached neutral and none biased analyses.

This work on textual criticism of Quran should have been done by Muslim scholars decades ago, yet they don't and attack those who do. Wonder why 🧐? 🤔

@roshlew6994

3 жыл бұрын

@Mark Bingham Islam is built on foundations of falsehoods, lies and deceits. Muslim apologist's have to employ deception, lies and oppression to protect Islam from critical scrutiny.

@narendramodi9373

3 жыл бұрын

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@letmetalk2240

3 жыл бұрын

Prof Bart Ehrman has said . there is nothing much to do because Quranic manuscript are identical to one another.

@roshlew6994

3 жыл бұрын

@@letmetalk2240 Dr. Dan Brubaker disagrees

@letmetalk2240

3 жыл бұрын

@@roshlew6994 Dr Dan should debate Prof. Bart Ehrman on Christianity which the prof has bashed to a pulp. This should be his priority and effort to bring back the glory of Christianity provided it has one.

Amazing work and it’s appreciated 👍

@theguyver4934

6 ай бұрын

Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time The secred text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply Best regards from a Muslim ( line of ismail )

Dr Brubaker keep up the good work, and don’t get to distracted by replying to criticism 👍

All the best for you sir,... stay focus on your work... you are the goodwill person....

Hello Doc, What's your reaction & response on critique of Shabbir ally & Ahmed ijaz? You gonna create a videos just as sidkey?

Dr Brubaker, did you come across group of specific variants in certain manuscripts groups? for example i've found in two manuscripts one from samarkand and other in turkey the same variant it's the "معروشات و غير معروشات" in sura ElEkhlas one of them this verse was written in maragilina and the 2nd manuscript was partially written معروشات only did you encountered that kind of "grouped" variations?

@exposingcp6943

3 жыл бұрын

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Keep work sir, we wait

Thank you for your great work.

WHY did the corrections get made? What did they use to decide it was wrong and the changes were correct?

@letmetalk2240

3 жыл бұрын

@Shukur Dadabaev OFFICIAL Just an assumption and that is what Xtians are good at .. even their religion is built upon assumptions .. for eg did Jesus teach the church rituals and practices?

Thank you!

I enjoy your work, Dr. Brubaker. I appreciate your academic perspective on Islam.

Don’t be scared, no one should curb your right to free speech and uncovering the truth. Such attacks will only increase in time as you discover and publish more and more. Be brave and never give up.

Am writing letters to friends and family in academia. Islamic morass is a gold mine of research for doctrinal thesis.

Congratulation on your new book I hope it will become the best seller.

@exposingcp6943

3 жыл бұрын

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Ad hominem attacks is the way they function for the most part. It is meant to deflect from the big picture without having to deal with the actual subject matter. Your best bet would probably be to publish another book showing 100 corrections, and then another with 1000 corrections. They cannot escape overwhelming evidence.

@exposingcp6943

3 жыл бұрын

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@jdshl8423

3 жыл бұрын

@@exposingcp6943, not sure of the relevance of your reply. Your holy book is full of holes in the narrative plus lacks manuscripts plus contains a massive quantity of corrections. How do you consider it reliable? - waiting for the deflection to the Bible, per the expected modus operandi -

@narendramodi9373

3 жыл бұрын

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@jdshl8423

3 жыл бұрын

@@narendramodi9373, and yep! Modus operandi detected! It is not uncommon to make the hypothesis fit the data you know? You should be especially worried if it all lines up. As usual, critics miss the point.

@narendramodi9373

3 жыл бұрын

@@jdshl8423 Yep that is what I meant and not to talk about 'whataboutism'. It is sad to see there is NO sensible discussion on this ''controversial'' issue on this thread and almost all his other videos. Sadly most gone into Ad Hominem attack on calling Hythem a Muslim. If that is the case Brubaker is a Christian, and truly he is if you have watched his Christmas greetings! I almost bought his book assuming it was academic but not now, after author's own admission. Imagine those who have bought and the views they would hold, for and against. And we call them scholars!

I really appreciate your work Dr. As a scientist, I didn't find any valid science in the Quran. It's a book written by 7th century men that's all. Nothing more than that.

@timetoreason181

3 жыл бұрын

Assuming you are a scientist, this is not about science in the Quran, but on corrections in early Quranic manuscripts. I also assume that you are an scientist from the Evangelical Church the way you side step the topic, even a fist year undergraduate would not make comments such silly.

@Kleyana

3 жыл бұрын

@@timetoreason181 I know what Dan is working on. My comment is to appreciate his work. On the other hand, I also mentioned my work along in the line as an expert, why are you bringing church into this?

@narendramodi9373

3 жыл бұрын

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Please where is the link. I really want to read brubakar's response

@variantquran4505

3 жыл бұрын

It is in the description box above, but here you go: www.academia.edu/44923907/Corrections_to_Hythem_Sidkys_review_of_Corrections_in_Early_Qurʾān_Manuscripts_Twenty_Examples or www.dropbox.com/s/ucl4ehnk2uplul0/Brubaker%20response%20to%20Sidky%20review%20of%20CEQM%202.2.pdf?dl=0

@SNan-oi9no

3 жыл бұрын

@@variantquran4505 thanks alot

Your work is a masterpiece! Keep it up, Sir.

God bless you.

The truth you tell, exposes the lie they live!!!

If the objective of Brubaker’s book is to demonstrate *the humanity* of the scribes involved in transmitting the Quranic text, it *certainly succeeds* . It is well presented and accessible, and does an admirable job guiding the reader through a nuanced and technical subject using a series of photographs and clear descriptions. Where it falls short, however , is in its methodology and analysis . Although Brubaker states that he always gives scribal error first consideration, this is not apparent from the book. In fact, the vast majority of examples in the book are best explained through *simple scribal error*. The main thesis, namely, that the flexibility of the Quranic text persisted centuries beyond its standardization (p. 95), *remains unproven* . Dr Hythem Sidky University of Chicago

Thank you! Keep up the good work! GBU!

Thank you :)

Your patreon link is broken!

@variantquran4505

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I fixed it. DB

Did you write up a review and put it out on a PDF? I didn't read the paper, because they said it wasn"t insignificant" errors? What is "insignificant"? Please keep the conversation on a academic level.

The quranic narrative has holes in it...

@letmetalk2240

3 жыл бұрын

@A Proud Believer They are the lost sheep.

@victorrodrigues5448

3 жыл бұрын

@A Proud Believer, believe it or not, it was Yasir Qhadi who said that 'The standard narrative has holes in it.' They? Who are 'they', gullible believer (in buraqs and such)?

@exposingcp6943

3 жыл бұрын

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@letmetalk2240

3 жыл бұрын

@@victorrodrigues5448 Yasir Qhadi is not the ONLY MUSLIM SCHOLAR. Xtians believed Elijah flew into heaven riding chariot of fire! Gullible believers!

@victorrodrigues5448

3 жыл бұрын

@@letmetalk2240, 'As they [Elijah and Elisha] were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, *and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind* .' ~ 2 Kings 2:11 If you want to quote the Bible, quote the Bible as it is! Not only christians believe in the biblical account. Jews and (most) muslims believe it. Your criminal profit did.

Great tutorial!

Here is the link to Sydky's Article: www.middleeastmedievalists.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/UW-27-Sidky.pdf

LORD JESUS IS ETERNAL WORD OF GOD (Isaiah 9 : 6-7) , (Micah 5 : 2) ! LORD JESUS IS ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN 🙏 (Isaiah 53) .

@exposingcp6943

3 жыл бұрын

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"Humans make mistakes" is not a problem with my Latin/Greek scholar at Saint Louis University who spent endless hours looking at Roman and Greek texts, provided by the Vatican Library in the 1960s.

Dr. Brubaker, I will make a recommendation that you can create a list in Google Sheets about books you recommend to read and link them in your description. In that way, it will be easier for you to just refer to it and will also help spread that list faster as compared to individual mentions in different videos.

@variantquran4505

3 жыл бұрын

That is a good idea. I will consider. Not so familiar with Google Sheets, so have patience please. DB

Btw it is my firm belief that Muhammad did not call his god Allah for several YEARS and did not syncretize him with the Allah of the Kaaba until then. The first name of his god was al-Rabb. The second Rahman. Only the third was Allah and finally Rahim, for actual names. Allah was in interpolated verses and was interpolated into other verses from early revelations, but actually not that commonly. That is why so many corrections have the added name of Allah. My professional background is a novelist with 30 or so books behind me, so I see editorial seams more clearly that 99 percent of people who approach this text.

I think that in all forensic investigations patterns emerge that begin or may sway possible conclusion outcomes. Therefore one must be careful not to assume a pattern but observe and report each separate observation. Thus each individual item observed in it’s own right and this is apparently your method as shown by your presentations. Therefore your path is seeking truth not that of a desired or predetermined conclusion. Such a path therefore is as a journey that changes as more evidence comes to light. What you have established is that the text has been altered therefore the original has not been preserved.

@exposingcp6943

3 жыл бұрын

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bro you seem to perfectly fit as an example for (Matthew 10:16). Keep up the honest and good work bro.....muslims are opening their eyes to know the truth by your work.....ill be praying for you _/\_

Mr. brubaker. You are a gentleman.

Dr Brubaker. I’m a British Muslim woman of Pakistani origin. I diligently follow your videos and work. As a Muslim, I appreciate your work and mannerism. I agree with the comments down below that you are doing the work which Muslim scholars should have picked up. I will read your response you have mentioned in your video. I wanted to enquire if you have heard about or read a book called Ageless Koran, timeless text. The book defends the claim of Muslims that Koran has been transmitted unaltered to the World since the times of prophet Muhammad as word of Allah. I was interested in finding out your views on it. Thank you

@ME-yp7fn

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The Quran is transmitting from the day one till today through the mutual-asserted sources النقل المتواتر, means that all Muslims have to memorize the Quran without the need of a manuscript, you can't learn the Quran by just reading it without a teacher to guide you through its proper pronunciations. Second this video didn't mention the multiple readings القراءات of the Quran in which Allah made it easy for early Muslims whom come from different Arab tribes, mostly illiterate, to recite the Quran in theirs dialect. There isn't many versions of the Quran, as this video suggest, but MANY READINGS that all agree on the meaning with minor differences. The multiple readings in the Quran is existing in the Uthmanic Mushaf as much as the Uthmanic rasm الرسم font can stand it. Uthman sent a teacher with each copy of the Quran to teach the Muslims how to recite it properly, it wasn't send it as some suggest for people to figure out how to recite it on their own. Finally, the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) not only recite the Quran to the Muslims but he used have many scribes wrote the Quran on whatever materials they had, therefore the Quran was preserved through memorization and writing from the beginning. Anyone wants to compare the Quran with the New Testament should read, The Orthodox Corruption of Scripture: The Effect of Early Christological Controversies on the Text of the New Testament by Bart D. Ehrman to appreciate the miracle of the Quran preservation, Allah says in the Quran "9. Surely We [Allah] revealed the Message, and We will surely preserve it." [Quran 15:9] إِنَّا نَحْنُ نَزَّلْنَا الذِّكْرَ وَإِنَّا لَهُ لَحَافِظُونَ (9)" سورة الحجر " For whom they want know the truth of the Quran, I recommend this book: The History of The Qur'anic Text: From Revelation to Compilation: A Comparative Study with the Old and New Testaments by Muhammad Mustafa Al-Azami A contradiction if the verse said two different meanings at the same time. To understand the Quran, you need to take the Quran in totality plus use the authenticated sound Hadith to support your understanding of the Quran. Again, there are no versions of Quran, but readings (aka recitations) also you have no clue of the styles of the Arabic language and how it does work, for example the a sentence can be written in various ways with the same exact meanings or slight difference in one word that support each other meanings in the other readings, that is why the Ten recitations is very important tool in Quran exegesis . Even Muslim scholars wrote books about this multiple readings, and any good reciter of the Quran aware of them. Theology is about God, jurisprudence is about laws that govern believers in this world, again read more about the Jewish traditions, Christianity doesn't know this type of difference, I guess!! The Theology of Quran is one, pure monotheism, but the jurisprudence can be different in degree not quality, you can say that all Muslims don't eat pork, they pray, they fast, but they can be different legal rules regarding minor things that vary according to circumstances and conditions making Sharia Law (Islamic Law) flexible to time and place. This hadith shows that this recitations/facets go back to the prpohet himself: ‘Umar ibn al-Khattāb (may Allah be pleased with him) reported: I heard Hishām ibn Hakīm recite Sūrat al-Furqān during the lifetime of the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him). I listened to his recitation and noticed that he recited it in many ways which the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) had not taught me. So I was about to jump upon him during the prayer, but I waited till he finished the prayer, whereupon I seized him by either his upper garment or mine and asked him: "Who taught you how to recite this Sūrah?" He replied: "The Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) taught me how to recite it." So I said to him: "You have told a lie! By Allah, the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) taught me this Sūrah which I have heard you recite." So I set forth, leading him to the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him). I said: "O the Messenger of Allah, I heard this man recite Sūrat al-Furqān in ways which you have not taught me, and you taught me how to recite it." On that, the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) said: "O ‘Umar, let go of him! Recite, O Hishām." So Hishām recited before him in the way I had heard him recite. the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) said: "It was revealed like this." Then the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) said: "Recite, O ‘Umar!" So I recited it. The Prophet (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) said: "It was revealed like this." And then he added: "Indeed, this Qur’an has been revealed in seven different ways, so recite it in the way that is easy for you." Sahih/Authentic. - [Al-Bukhari and Muslim] Anyway, the Quran exactly addresses people like you, Allah says in the Quran: "7. It is He who revealed to you the Book. Some of its verses are definitive; they are the foundation of the Book, and others are unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation, they follow the unspecific part, seeking dissent, and seeking to derive an interpretation. But none knows its interpretation except God and those firmly rooted in knowledge say, “We believe in it; all is from our Lord.” But none recollects except those with understanding." [Quran 3:7]

Keep doing what you are doing!Do not mind thosed people

Fact is there are changes It is not erased by Allah or added by Allah who promised no one can do that..

You are doing an amazing job of clarifying and exposing the quran , and those who have no common sense or courtesy are wanting attention by throwing stones. You are an excellent example of a Christian man 🙏🏼

Jesus bless you and your work. May He use you strongly!!

Excellent video. Very interesting. Also, the Catholics had the Scripts in the Monastery preserving ancient texts and the Bible..... I am not familiar with the Islamic world and how they preserved their significant works. That would be interesting. Thank you. God Bless.

Dr Brubaker really triggers The speakers corner Muslims 🤣

Dr. Brubaker, you are the forefront of incredible research. Thank you for your labors!

@letmetalk2240

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

Telling the truth about Islam attracts loonies like a lamp attracts moths .

@sparkle74HvH

3 жыл бұрын

Wish someone would try to respond to CP's books.That would be funny

@exposingcp6943

3 жыл бұрын

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@seanclark2085

3 жыл бұрын

The “dots” indicating vowel sounds and changing the sound of individual letters were not introduced until the 9th century , long after Islam was created , there is no way of knowing what individual words actually meant or sounded like previous to adoption of this new ( it was actually stolen from Hebrew , like most of the Koran where it was introduced centuries earlier ) system of grammar . Why you posted it to me is unclear , what is clear is that you have very little understanding of of the evolution of Arabic ,and the consequences this had on later interpretation.

@exposingcp6943

3 жыл бұрын

#1: Bible is a Book of Books. Out of MANY, only "4" Gospels were selected by Church to be a part of the Bible in the NT. #2: None of the Gospels were written by the direct eye-witness #3: The 1st written Gospel was by what the Church thinks as Mark because they found the name Mark on the manuscript BUT this manuscript is NOT from the 1st Century. The EARLIEST manuscript is several later. The original is either lost/destroyed. #4: The Gospel written by "beloved of Jesus", whom the Church thinks as "John" mentioned things that were NOT mentioned by other Gospels. He/They introduced new concepts. #5: If the HS, was guiding the scribes, then why blunders in Bible. #6: What did RSV Bible mention in the Preface? Do you know? Was the scholarship behind the RSV compilation bunch of ignorant folks? Why do they declare that the KJV has SERIOUS ERRORS as the manuscripts upon which KJV was based had verses ADDED TO IT. This was proven when manuscripts OLDER than these manuscripts were found . #7: What about the ALREADY CONFIRMED corruption in Bible about for example: 1 John 5:7-8 [Johannes Comma], Story of adulteress, Handling snakes and drinking poison, etc. #8: Laymen Christians claim "WE HAVE ENTIRE NT MANUSCRIPTS” numbering in 6000. Unfortunately none of two manuscripts are similar. The copies have several issues in the writing (Not including the scribal human errors) #9: Michael Servetus was a sixteenth century Spanish theologian whose interpretations of the Bible brought him into conflict with the Church. In 1531 CE, Servetus published the book “Errors of the Trinity”, in which he said those who believed in the Trinity were really Tritheists (believers in three gods). He was condemned as a heretic and burnt alive atop a pyre of his own books #10: Christians should STOP the violation of the 1st commandment and accept Islaam since we are living in the times of Prophet Muhammad and there will no prophet to come till the Day of Judgment. These are few points why Book of Books is corrupted. I am not even including scientific error. The above few points are sufficient for a wise person to ponder.

@noorlight4436

3 жыл бұрын

Believing in other people who have no clear understanding of the Arabic language and not doing research yourself just shows you guys will believe just about anything.

God bless you and make you a blessing for other.

I stumbled at an interesting response to you on KZread from the Dawahwise channel. He claims to be a scholar. I suppose that having honored you with a response you should also honor him with a response. This were my comments on the video Thank God that you took the challenge to respond. This is what we look for. We hope he responds. How I wish we are able to read comments about your video. In my understanding, you didn't refute him. His point is that there is a correction and with that you agree. He doesn't claim that the scribe was incompetent. Note that you made general statements about him using just one instance. Thank you

keep up the Professionalism and good work Dr Brubaker !! Continue to speak the truth !

Couldn't they find another linguist? I'm genuinely confused.

@exposingcp6943

3 жыл бұрын

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God bless your work and family.

Dr. Brubaker's expertise is in early quran manuscripts, which is the subject of this video too. Same is the topic of this discussion thread >>>>Only recently western academics have started doing academic & research work on early quran ------------------------- Right .. and we see many others who supported the belief that Quran is preserved. In fact what I can gather is, Dr Brubaker is still new to this field. I believe he didn't master the Arabic language or having indepth Quranic studies. That is why we see simple mistakes made by him. He should first engage with others in this field and learn from those who have more experiences than him for example Dr. Joseph Lumbard .

But Dan, the only format of rebuttal by Muslims towards criticisms of Islam or it's sources is simply to attack the critic and not the points of criticism...

Your work is appreciated.

The plot thickens day by day, oh these 'scholars', whom to trust! [yes with ! instead ?]

@exposingcp6943

3 жыл бұрын

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I’ve really enjoyed your videos. Keep up the great work!

Pdf available or not for your book?

@nn-si6dy

3 жыл бұрын

Not for free men, just buy it on Amazon. 😁

HYTEM Sidky is the Director of Iqsa.

Small movement on earth's plate can cause big tsunami. You have started the small movement and the wave 🌊 is building. May looks like a ripples on the deepest sea but for people have shallow understanding of quran is a massive tsunami. The pandemic is just make it even better as people try to find out if their faith is based on solid rock or just sand castle on the beach. God will always make a way for the salvation of the my muslim brother and sister

I bet the 300 pager comes from someone at Speakers Corner UK. All the Dawah specialist and youtubers :D - Mansur maybe? :D

It is always a trick of Muslim shaikhs and priests to pick on grammar or accent of someone to be the cause of a mistake which is such a trick to fool them that Arabic is the only way to understand - and it is not because God means God in any language - or good or bad- Also most interpretation of Quran which are really the main sources were written by non árabs and as well- old Arabic is not something most of todays scholars do not know either … so u are doing an amazing thing

Very lengthy apology!

Muslims should be extremely grateful to you for helping them find the truth about their holy book and their religion. What ever are they scared about?

@letmetalk2240

3 жыл бұрын

so far no damage has been done.

@Kleyana

3 жыл бұрын

@@letmetalk2240 Says who? I personally know 4 Muslims who left Islam after learning about DB and AP's work. I think it's high time to come out of denial that these videos aren't appreciated by Muslim youth!

@sphagbog

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kleyana I don't really know what you are saying. My point is that we should all pursue the truth and not merely believe arguments that support our religion whether Jew, Christian, atheist Muslim or Hindu. Dr B is obviously a man of integrity, helping us find truth. I thank God for him.

@Kleyana

3 жыл бұрын

@@sphagbog I replied to other dude, not you :)

@sphagbog

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kleyana ah! Muslims leaving Islam? I don't class that as damage. A definite positive

Islam doesn't accept criticism. The one that finds fault with a person criticizing Islam considers you an infidel. For a muslim, it's always personal when criticising Islam. Just thought I let u no Dan.

How does one debate textual variants in a manuscript? I understand that the interpretation of a text can be up for debate, but to debate its textual history and form seems kind of absurd to me. These documents don't have a dog in the fight because they can't control how well they conform to others or whether they have been modified.

I think the word ultracrepidarian comes to mind

Praise be to Jesus Christ

Keep up the great work!

Keep up the good work. The criticisms are baseless and lack academic quality.

It the 99 to one rule . They know they can reach a lot more people in a short amount of time.

@pinpoint3770

3 жыл бұрын

the truth will set them free though

Indonesia watching

It is weird to publish a review of a non (mentioned) scholary book in a scholary journal. It is like when dr. NT Wright, get an academic review about his books under the name Tom Wright. Of course there is a review needed. And criticism is always welcome. But you need to understand for what public it is written. @Dr Brubaker A question: maybe you can write an academic book about this topic.

@variantquran4505

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, and you are correct on all counts. And, yes, I am working on more than one academic monograph. Best, DB

@variantquran4505

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, my book obviously included scholarly material, so it was not entirely weird, just the length and the tone of the review. It is a good thing for it to be reviewed in such a journal, for that I would not complain, but one would hope that criticism would be fair and the critique competent.

@dobberdop

3 жыл бұрын

I understand, but what i understand it is like we called here popular academic. So understandable for a wide public. And the review need to be for that. But thanks for the answer and keep up the good work.

Is it possible that the Arabic of today, written and/or spoken, is different than it was in the 5th/6th century? Couldn't that be contributing to their confusion?

Should people who think the Quran is a good book be critiquing other books?

Scribal errors were common, and manuscripts aren't the primary source of preservation.

Can you please put your videos on Bitchute too? I enjoy your videos.

@variantquran4505

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks - there are so many things to do. I will try to get that into my workflow soon. DB

Well done, as usual.

Did this molecular engineer minor in Qur'anic history? Very curious.

@Draous1

3 жыл бұрын

Very important he mentioned that. Its like when we get climate change advice fron phds but not in that field.

@letmetalk2240

3 жыл бұрын

this doctor himself has no PhD in Quranic studies and Arabic language. lol

@lkae4

3 жыл бұрын

@@letmetalk2240 Really? What's Dr Brubaker's PhD in?

@letmetalk2240

3 жыл бұрын

@@lkae4 ask him.

@lkae4

3 жыл бұрын

@@letmetalk2240 You don't know? So you just lied to everyone?