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"REFUTATION" arrives from Istanbul. Brubaker unboxes and offers initial observations.

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  • @dbo514
    @dbo5143 жыл бұрын

    The fact that they've gone to the trouble of printing such well made books is a testimony to the quality of your work.

  • @bowrudder899

    @bowrudder899

    3 жыл бұрын

    To me it suggests someone is willing to commit a lot of resources to this. I'd be curious to know how many copies they printed ... one for every library?

  • @bowrudder899

    @bowrudder899

    3 жыл бұрын

    Name calling passes as a refutation, @Sadiq-Abdul Malik? In my day that was recognized as ad hominem, the genetic fallacy, and "poisoning the well". A modest suggestion: your posts will gain in credibility in inverse proportion to the use of ALL CAPS. I trust the Turkish Orientalist's objections will be more germane.

  • @dbo514

    @dbo514

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Sadiq-Abdul Malik bla bla bla

  • @jesussavedme2213

    @jesussavedme2213

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yup that’s what I thought 💭

  • @truthseeker7951

    @truthseeker7951

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Sadiq-Abdul Malik babbling about "not expert on arabic language" & all... then why don't your expert do the homework? Why wait for nonmuslim done it & then protest about it & calling their names? Oh yeah...it's because muslims are taught not to question & find evidences & think critically

  • @hagalhagal9989
    @hagalhagal99893 жыл бұрын

    12 minutes in and already 81 views and a dislike of a man opening a box! May your channel keep on growing Dr Brubaker. If anything your courtesy is an example to an ever more hostile world.

  • @ruelmashi1121

    @ruelmashi1121

    3 жыл бұрын

    they have disliked it because their brain is as big as the *grain of a BEAN like unto Mr. Bean* unable to think 😄😄

  • @anthonynoronha8442

    @anthonynoronha8442

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is good the credibility of the Qur'an is coming to the fore, hope the refutation and counter refutation and another refutation will go on and on till the fairy tales are destroyed.

  • @hagalhagal9989

    @hagalhagal9989

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Sadiq-Abdul Malik 1) sensibilities are irrelevant to the video. 2) Islam is causing unmeasurable suffering to many people, so don't come whining here about your feelings.

  • @anthonynoronha8442

    @anthonynoronha8442

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Sadiq-Abdul Malik where is the sensibilities of the Muslim world when Christians and apostates are slaughtered in the name of Allah of the Qur'an.

  • @hereweare9096

    @hereweare9096

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Sadiq-Abdul Malik Why do you state that? Isn’t it the Islamic position that all evil and suffering on earth is a test fro your own God?

  • @PaulAllen8.30
    @PaulAllen8.303 жыл бұрын

    The amount of honestly and class it takes to post something like this is astounding. Not many academics (especially islamic) would go that far

  • @bringemyoungpbuh4123

    @bringemyoungpbuh4123

    3 жыл бұрын

    It must be unnerving to have someone publish a book reviewing your work. You must be confident in your work to make such information public. I have heard some claim Dr. Brubaker has been "refuted", but I always ask what is to refute if all he is doing is showing variants on a page. Certainly you can discuss his methodology and why he conveyed what he did, but it is pretty hard to "refute" hard evidence.

  • @tdsdave

    @tdsdave

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sadly I doubt the "rebuttal" will be as honest or classy . Just from the contents page he read out some of content list , "What is Orientalism?", and "an overview of Brubakers approach to the Quran", given these are first listed, it seemed, it suggests a strawman in the making , or a poisoning of the well . If the approach were sincere they would find the problems they might find, and then offer such analysis as Orientalism , religious or academic bias , or whatever as explanations for these mistakes in the conclusion. Kinda putting the cart before the horse, though we'll see of course.

  • @tdsdave

    @tdsdave

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Sadiq-Abdul Malik Having read you comments I'm not "his demographic" which you presume is Christian , and your rant illustrates the of poisoning of the well concerning Brubakers academic work I mention above, Do you throw Muslim accounts about the bible away because obviously these Muslims must be "milking their demographics"? I'd guess not. You also state *"This is also significant here because here we have a man critquing the quran..."* This framing shows you really do not have a clue what is being done here, early manuscripts with differences are being analysed , and perhaps ideas about how these differences occurred are being offered. The only reason you see this respectable investigation as "critiquing the Quran" is because just the possibility of variation is an anathema to your dogma. The differences are there , understanding why is an interesting question, that's all that is going on here. If you reply in capitals btw, I will not respond All the best.

  • @kubura762

    @kubura762

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Sadiq-Abdul Malik stop spamming, calm down and go kiss a stone bro

  • @penitoanikeve7288

    @penitoanikeve7288

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kubura762 Malik ran away from me and now I found him.

  • @BasedYeeter42
    @BasedYeeter423 жыл бұрын

    Idk if I’m the only Muslim here but I genuinely enjoy your content. It’s led me to ponder about this subject and think about whether Islam truly is based on solid foundations, will be looking forward to more videos

  • @ourbulwarkisjesuschrist9435

    @ourbulwarkisjesuschrist9435

    3 жыл бұрын

    Most Muslims don't seem to venture beyond the Islamic bubble, so it's nice that you're different in that respect. You'll quickly learn that Islam is on shaky foundations on many issues. I'm working on a relevant book and I could let you know about it if I manage to finish it, if you're interested.

  • @variantquran4505

    @variantquran4505

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the kind words. I hope you find it helpful.

  • @BasedYeeter42

    @BasedYeeter42

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ourbulwarkisjesuschrist9435 yeah I’ve noticed that among my fellow brethren in faith, it’s a bit sad to see that although one may disagree with another it doesn’t hurt to engage in fruitful intellectual discussion. Yeah sure keep me updated, I’m interested

  • @BasedYeeter42

    @BasedYeeter42

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@variantquran4505 👍

  • @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

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  • @meindertbakker8377
    @meindertbakker83773 жыл бұрын

    This is awesome, your knowledge of Oriental languages has inspired me to study Arabic and Middle Eastern studies. I was allready studying history.

  • @theonetruechazz598
    @theonetruechazz5983 жыл бұрын

    I really just watched a Dan Brubaker unboxing video... life is surreal

  • @sethsuleiman4419

    @sethsuleiman4419

    3 жыл бұрын

    To a layman, Dr Brubaker work is surrreal. Sorry to say, to a learned muslim, the work is showing his incompetency, his insincerely, his carelessness, his nil-substance research, his statictically useless data and his should-do-a better job. kzread.info/dash/bejne/o3h_05h-ipWwlKg.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/f3yhk657csXOeMo.html

  • @midnightwatchman1

    @midnightwatchman1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sethsuleiman4419 Is that really true? can you put aside your fear and tribalism for once? Dr. Brubaker has been slow, careful, detailed. I am not sure how you can go through page by page, word by word dot by dot, and call that careless. His videos require the viewer to make some take some effort because it is so detailed. Did you actually watch his videos I am now convinced you did not?

  • @sethsuleiman4419

    @sethsuleiman4419

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@midnightwatchman1 I watched DB video; so did the muslim scholars who summarised DB work as incompentent, insincere, careless, no substance, statically useless and should-do-a-better job.

  • @JohnDelVentomusic

    @JohnDelVentomusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sethsuleiman4419 lol

  • @frankjaeger9068

    @frankjaeger9068

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sethsuleiman4419 lol 'do a better job' Dan introduces a book for laymen and Muslims are hitting the roof, Dan is just getting warmed up

  • @hetrodoxly1203
    @hetrodoxly12033 жыл бұрын

    For your small book to create such a response must have really rocked the boat.

  • @dbo514

    @dbo514

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is my view as well.

  • @bringemyoungpbuh4123

    @bringemyoungpbuh4123

    3 жыл бұрын

    Most books that small would never gain attention to warrant a bound review. At most a paper, but not a book.

  • @israfilangel8062

    @israfilangel8062

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@reystacy7778 fear? 😂 no wonder who is afraid of the truth that's why y'all trying to malign islam with your horrible ignorance!

  • @israfilangel8062

    @israfilangel8062

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@reystacy7778 don't be afraid just because islam is taking over! learn islam from its reliable muslim sources with an open mind instead

  • @R2026I

    @R2026I

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@israfilangel8062 Bro one Guy shake the muslim world especially the Sunny Muslims world so all the muslim scholar will start doing their homework and present it to their student and children's

  • @purplesand3874
    @purplesand38743 жыл бұрын

    I can't wait to see how they attempt to refute your 22 examples but, even more, I would love to see the looks on their faces when they discover you have 4000 more!

  • @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

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  • @MU-we8hz

    @MU-we8hz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cometosuccesscometosuccess2030 hahahahaha, a poem....., quran is a poem. Bad written poem.

  • @Logia1978

    @Logia1978

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hahaha... I would love to see your face when you will understand that those 4000 examples just like the 22 examples of Dr Brubaker are nothing more than scribe errors....

  • @cjamo65able

    @cjamo65able

    3 ай бұрын

    OK with waiting for 3 years (and counting)?

  • @lastprophet8338
    @lastprophet83383 жыл бұрын

    The whole Islamic world is having sleepless nights because of your work, kudos to you.

  • @sethsuleiman4419

    @sethsuleiman4419

    3 жыл бұрын

    To a layman, Dr Brubaker work give whole islamic sleepless nights. Sorry to say, to a learned muslim, the work is showing his incompetency, his insincerely, his carelessness, his nil-substance research, his statictically useless data and his should-do-a better job. kzread.info/dash/bejne/o3h_05h-ipWwlKg.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/f3yhk657csXOeMo.html

  • @lastprophet8338

    @lastprophet8338

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sethsuleiman4419 Most scholars are afraid of studying the manuscripts. Yasir Qadhi said that the standard narrative of the Qurans has giant holes in it, and that it shouldn’t be discussed in public.

  • @lastprophet8338

    @lastprophet8338

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sethsuleiman4419 Muslim scholars know that the standard narrative of the Qurans has holes 🕳

  • @sethsuleiman4419

    @sethsuleiman4419

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lastprophet8338 (1). Did yasir qadhi (and 'such scholars') specifically point out what and where the holes are? (2). Or are they hiding behind 'should not be discussed in public? Throw it out, true learned muslims will answer it easily, God willing.

  • @lastprophet8338

    @lastprophet8338

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sethsuleiman4419 If there’s no hole, they wouldn’t say there’s a hole, and the holes are getting bigger and increasing in numbers. Today, there are over 30 different Arabic Qurans circulating worldwide with thousands of variations. People in Morocco use warsh and call the 1924 Hafs Quran fake and vice versa. I heard an Ustas from Nigeria saying Diouri Quran is fake, it doesn’t agree with the 1924 Hafs Quran

  • @citra678
    @citra6783 жыл бұрын

    Is this refutation book bigger in size and more in pages than the original Brubaker’s book? 😅 Jay was right.. the Muslim scholar were really scaaaared of Brubaker’s works.

  • @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

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  • @hans471

    @hans471

    2 жыл бұрын

    Size matters!😉

  • @charleshowarth9342
    @charleshowarth93423 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your sincerity and humility. Keep up the good work 👍

  • @sethsuleiman4419

    @sethsuleiman4419

    3 жыл бұрын

    To a layman, Dr Brubaker work is sincere and with humility. Sorry to say, to a learned muslim, the work is showing his incompetency, his insincerely, his carelessness, his nil-substance research, his statictically useless data and his should-do-a better job. kzread.info/dash/bejne/o3h_05h-ipWwlKg.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/f3yhk657csXOeMo.html

  • @WhereWhatHuh

    @WhereWhatHuh

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sethsuleiman4419 A learned Muslim will never admit that someone disagrees with him. So Dr. Brubaker's integrity is already above that of Yasir Qadi, Shabir Ally, and Many other so-called Islamic Scholars.

  • @sethsuleiman4419

    @sethsuleiman4419

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@WhereWhatHuh (1). Reading history of muslim scholars, one will find there were disagreement among them on the branches of islamic jurisprudenc but not on core pillars of islam. (2). The wrongs 'between the lines' of Dr brubaker, yasir qadhi and shabir ally has been refuted.

  • @ngcebomhlongo4950
    @ngcebomhlongo49503 жыл бұрын

    It's 1:31 am and I am watching a man opening a box.

  • @chrisazure1624
    @chrisazure16243 жыл бұрын

    It is amazing the amount of interest, what is not much more than a pamphlet, has stirred up. The world truly needs a critical text of the Quran. This dabbling into the arena with Dr. Brubaker's little book (size, not a judgement of importance) is a welcome first start to what is desperately needed for Islamic scholarship from the secular perspective.

  • @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

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  • @chrisazure1624

    @chrisazure1624

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cometosuccesscometosuccess2030 He is a loving God who sacrificed himself for YOUR sins. Learn about this great love for YOU by studying the New Testament. Only the earthly body of Jesus died. God is spirit and he did not die, only his physical representation on earth. The world was not left without guidance, but that does not diminish the sacrifice that God took upon Himself. He took the punishment for YOUR sins so that YOU can live in relationship with God. Do not be fooled by those who do not want you to learn about what Jesus did you YOU. Learn about it from God, not your false teachers. The New Testament is clear that the angels would have saved him had he asked, but he wanted to set YOU free from death, hell and the grave. I hope his reaches YOU. GOD LOVES YOU. Jesus died for YOU. He rose from the dead as evidence that he brings victory over death. Ask God to show YOU the way to truth.

  • @strange1094

    @strange1094

    2 жыл бұрын

    Has the Quran never been examined from a critical view?

  • @chrisazure1624

    @chrisazure1624

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@strange1094 Not by Muslims. They hide the truth about the Quran. Example Uthman burned variant Quran's. It is gradually being investigated by non-Muslims.

  • @strange1094

    @strange1094

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@chrisazure1624 im very new to this examining of Quran manuscripts but from these recent comments Muslims say its mostly memorized and there are no errors but idk what they mean. They seem very confident that the Quran is really unchanged and idk what to believe bc i hardly know anything about this

  • @karenthompson1337
    @karenthompson13373 жыл бұрын

    My gosh. You’ve poked the hornets nest sir. I can hardly wait for your response to their refutation. I’d bet there is petulance, outrage and ad hominem attacks on you in it, more so than actual scholarship on their part.

  • @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

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  • @two_tier_gary_rumain
    @two_tier_gary_rumain3 жыл бұрын

    I predict lots of holes in their narrative.

  • @JP4truth

    @JP4truth

    3 жыл бұрын

    LOL

  • @true-islamapologetics7156

    @true-islamapologetics7156

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @strongnon-theist4211

    @strongnon-theist4211

    3 жыл бұрын

    😆😆😆

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    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

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  • @jeanm395

    @jeanm395

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yup

  • @ASHORSHEMAYA
    @ASHORSHEMAYA3 жыл бұрын

    Refutation. the title of the book is more like a declaration of war than an academic response.😂

  • @hans471

    @hans471

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly, in particular since Dan's book even doesn't have a single thesis that could be refuted 🧐

  • @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

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  • @theastronomer5800

    @theastronomer5800

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes! The last time I've heard a title so strong was probably "Against Heresies" witten in 180 AD!

  • @worldchanger7197
    @worldchanger71973 жыл бұрын

    You only published 22-4000 corrections, and they are already engaging their top scholar to respond to you!? This reveals the amount of fear they've got. Truth will always come out!

  • @Boot-Cross
    @Boot-Cross3 жыл бұрын

    I'd have someone else open packages you receive.

  • @KA-pq3yz

    @KA-pq3yz

    3 жыл бұрын

    😹 👍

  • @laurameszaros9547

    @laurameszaros9547

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes indeed @Jason Norcross, so sad Dr Brubaker has to consider this possibility, but unfortunately you are quite right to warn him.

  • @Boot-Cross

    @Boot-Cross

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@laurameszaros9547 yes, ma'am. He should know there is possible consequences for what he is doing. It's very sad that it's like that, but got to be cautious.

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    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

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    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

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  • @jfr45er
    @jfr45er3 жыл бұрын

    Was anyone else a little worried Dan would be exposed to anthrax or something as he opened the box?

  • @universalflamethrower6342
    @universalflamethrower63423 жыл бұрын

    in Holland we have a saying: "Filling one hole with another hole", I think we can safely say this tradition has been filling one hole in the narrative by another hole in the narrative during its entire existence.

  • @thinker3119

    @thinker3119

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey wat do you make of that right wing Dutch politician become ing Muslim

  • @universalflamethrower6342

    @universalflamethrower6342

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thinker3119 He used to be a criminal so that isn't to surprising. That right wing party attracted a lot of nut jobs in the beginning now they seem more stable. They may even wind up in the next government. Holland is no Austria but it is no England either. Some Dutch people still have their senses in the right place and I say that as a second generation migrant from Surinam origin. Surinames vote for mr Geert, lefties generally don't recognize that.

  • @Ibn_Abdulaziz

    @Ibn_Abdulaziz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@universalflamethrower6342 Why didn't your man-god, the 1st gender changing transformer in history protect you from selling your mothers and daughters behind windows or drug addiction. Don't you have other priorities instead envying Islam with spite lest Islam overwhelms your fake polytheist religion that failed the dutch people?

  • @Ibn_Abdulaziz

    @Ibn_Abdulaziz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@universalflamethrower6342 Why didn't your falsehood polytheist religion protect you from selling your women behind windows like cattle and drug addiction?

  • @Ibn_Abdulaziz

    @Ibn_Abdulaziz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@universalflamethrower6342 They sell their mothers and daughters behind windows like cattle, and instead of having jealousy for them, they are busy raging with envy and spite against Islam. And if such women were to repent, covering their faces with Niqaab lest they are recognized for their past mistakes, they would have fined them, forbidding them to become righteous, but wanting them to go back paying taxes behind windows.

  • @m_d1905
    @m_d19053 жыл бұрын

    Pretty snazzy to refute 100 or so pages. Am interested in hearing what they have to say though.

  • @euttdsiggh2783

    @euttdsiggh2783

    3 жыл бұрын

    It will be th3 usual - "you are a liar!" and similar. No facts or anything, just that

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    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

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  • @jamalkhan3708
    @jamalkhan37083 жыл бұрын

    It was fun to watch Dr Brubaker unboxing. So Dr Brubaker got more work to do on holes in the narrative.

  • @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

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  • @moviewatch369
    @moviewatch3693 жыл бұрын

    We stand firmly by you and observation regarding Quran. Your book have generated an interest never before seen throughout the world. We are thankful for your labor to bring out this important book. Where can we purchase a copy apart from Amazon?

  • @giminuntung7265
    @giminuntung72653 жыл бұрын

    You are very cool Dr Brubaker. I can't wait for your respons.

  • @isusjebogisaija96-75
    @isusjebogisaija96-753 жыл бұрын

    LORD JESUS IS ETERNAL WORD OF GOD In Flesh (Isaiah 9 : 6-7) , (Micah 5 : 2) ! ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN 🙏 (Isaiah 53) !

  • @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

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  • @theastronomer5800

    @theastronomer5800

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nothing to do with studies of Quranic mss...

  • @rodneyhowarth8236
    @rodneyhowarth82363 жыл бұрын

    All the expense and effort to refute something that is now becoming common knowledge The holes in the narrative will never go away

  • @sethsuleiman4419

    @sethsuleiman4419

    3 жыл бұрын

    To a layman, Dr Brubaker work is refuting 'common knowledge'. Sorry to say, to a learned muslim, the work is showing his incompetency, his insincerely, his carelessness, his nil-substance research, his statictically useless data and his should-do-a better job.h ttps://kzread.info/dash/bejne/o3h_05h-ipWwlKg.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/f3yhk657csXOeMo.html

  • @ourbulwarkisjesuschrist9435

    @ourbulwarkisjesuschrist9435

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sethsuleiman4419 Common knowledge among Muslims doesn't need to be correct, and, in fact, it's not when it concerns topics such as the non-preservation of the Quran. it's also a stretch to consider the Muslims you cite as being competent enough to reveal that Brubaker is incompetent, insincere, careless, etc. And it sounds like you have derived a caricature view of Brubaker from secondhand sources like the two you're citing. Why don't you do firsthand research instead? Don't rely on those Muslim sources and keep in mind that they largely say what they say because they need to defend Islam no matter whether that's the right thing to do: they'll tell you what you want to hear even if they shouldn't, because Islam is more important to them than truth.

  • @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

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  • @chomo54andbabyaisha97

    @chomo54andbabyaisha97

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sethsuleiman4419 Wouw. You are actually scared of him. Well, really he is just there to sort of measure the hole in the narrative, because the hole is there brubaker or not. The quran used to be many many more pages than it is now, we know that from sahih hadeths. You cannot run away from the hole.

  • @sethsuleiman4419

    @sethsuleiman4419

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chomo54andbabyaisha97 (1). In truth, we should not be scared of anybody. (2). DB to measure the hole in the narrative??? With his incompetency, insincere, carelessness and statistically useless data in his research. (3). Which hadith say, the previous has more pages than it is now??? (4). Which hole in the narrative that I am running from?? You make the claim, mate.

  • @bartholomewtott3812
    @bartholomewtott38123 жыл бұрын

    This is like watching a high class soap opera

  • @sethsuleiman4419

    @sethsuleiman4419

    3 жыл бұрын

    To a layman, Dr Brubaker work is a high clas sopa drama. Sorry to say, to a learned muslim, the work is showing his incompetency, his insincerely, his carelessness, his nil-substance research, his statictically useless data and his should-do-a better job. kzread.info/dash/bejne/o3h_05h-ipWwlKg.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/f3yhk657csXOeMo.html

  • @arulsammymankondar30

    @arulsammymankondar30

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sethsuleiman4419 The defence is again ad hominem and strawman.

  • @sethsuleiman4419

    @sethsuleiman4419

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@arulsammymankondar30 Listen the videos again, carefully.

  • @cjay2

    @cjay2

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sethsuleiman4419 The truth of iz lam is that it is total bull shyt from the start. There is zero 'truth' in it, and their "pro phet" was a 7th century desert-dwelling caravan-robber and pedo file, as well as a psy ko path. As a result, there is no such thing as a 'learned mzlm'. There are just mzlmz, doing their "gee had" for the last 1400 years. Just saying.

  • @gewoonfrank478
    @gewoonfrank4783 жыл бұрын

    Dan, Dan, my man. You need to be reading, not making videos 😅 Just kidding, love you brother Can't wait for the review, great work 👍

  • @tonyjesshope6861
    @tonyjesshope68613 жыл бұрын

    I look forward to your Refutation of the Refutation 😎

  • @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/aXqZk7Gjj6-4g7Q.html 😑

  • @DiscoveringSalvation
    @DiscoveringSalvation3 жыл бұрын

    Have a blessed day Daniel may the Lord bless you and your family be always blessed.

  • @Chandransingham
    @Chandransingham3 жыл бұрын

    Books arrived. Time to study and reflect.......

  • @alwaili5879
    @alwaili58793 жыл бұрын

    thats not a knife

  • @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/aXqZk7Gjj6-4g7Q.html 😊

  • @true-islamapologetics7156
    @true-islamapologetics71563 жыл бұрын

    Your work shakes the tables of several generations of Islamic narratives to the foundation. Keep doing your job! Waiting to see what the response is and your response to that.

  • @hellhound9497
    @hellhound94973 жыл бұрын

    I’m looking forward for it Dan. I would love to watch your videos regarding the book.

  • @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/aXqZk7Gjj6-4g7Q.html 😑

  • @JasonLovesJesus
    @JasonLovesJesus3 жыл бұрын

    I received some leads for my lead holder, I would do an unboxing but its not as exciting as the books you received. Looking forward to hearing your response after reading the book. Seems Muslims are getting very worried.

  • @davidmcintosh3468
    @davidmcintosh34683 жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to it! Wonderful that there can be dialogue AND truth!

  • @zahedsheik2025
    @zahedsheik20253 жыл бұрын

    Still awaiting a response Brubaker.

  • @MuhammadAli-vp7qt

    @MuhammadAli-vp7qt

    3 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/gqyHxKmeh5ixm9I.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/apyemddpdpbfdco.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/f3moxLaYftXZn5s.html

  • @Morgow1
    @Morgow13 жыл бұрын

    Interesting times.

  • @anthonytan7134
    @anthonytan71343 жыл бұрын

    The size of the book is impressive comparing to your book, hope that it has impressive weight as well refuting your book Doc ! Looking forward to your review of their refutation. Gbu

  • @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/aXqZk7Gjj6-4g7Q.html 😊

  • @Lilia.....
    @Lilia.....3 жыл бұрын

    Can't wait for your analysis and answer!

  • @midnightwatchman1
    @midnightwatchman13 жыл бұрын

    I am really glad you are into the youtube "lifestyle" Imagine you are having your first unboxing. Keep up the good work and may the Lord continue to bless you greatly

  • @simonhengle8316
    @simonhengle83163 жыл бұрын

    It will be very interesting to hear what he has to say, and of course what you have to say in return, I think you have them rattled Dr. Brubaker

  • @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/aXqZk7Gjj6-4g7Q.html 😊

  • @shedtva
    @shedtva3 жыл бұрын

    I hope you do not write a book for the refutation. But that you learn and understand and just make your next book so much better. Really just give different examples, go into better detail. But really all they are doing is writing you a book on how to improve your work to show more problems with the early Quran manuscripts. Hold no punches please, next book show not only erasures or censoring. Show examples that hold theological issues. Or historic, or scientific errors. But no matter what, thank you for your work. God bless you and your family, always and forever.

  • @variantquran4505

    @variantquran4505

    3 жыл бұрын

    No, writing a book is not needed. This is peer review, and is helpful to me in my current and forthcoming projects. Thanks Shawn.

  • @shedtva

    @shedtva

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. You are a huge inspiration.

  • @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/aXqZk7Gjj6-4g7Q.html 😑

  • @alilafleur760
    @alilafleur760 Жыл бұрын

    So, two years passed, and I could not find an response yet to the book of Tayyar Altıkulaç. Do you consider to do an video to elaborate what you think in retrospective about your book and his response to it? We would appreciate that after this video where you unboxing it. Thanks in advance.

  • @JohnDelVentomusic
    @JohnDelVentomusic3 жыл бұрын

    The Turks sure know how to pack a package. Also Altikulic is on another level of scholarhsip on this topic. GL, Doc !!

  • @FearTheNorth
    @FearTheNorth3 жыл бұрын

    Turkey where are your Christians?

  • @darthcalanil5333

    @darthcalanil5333

    3 жыл бұрын

    Magically made to disappear to other lands or the other life

  • @dbo514

    @dbo514

    3 жыл бұрын

    They're still there, just living in a nightmare they can't seem to wake up from called Islam

  • @masona8

    @masona8

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dead

  • @darthcalanil5333

    @darthcalanil5333

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dbo514 "still there" is being very generous with the word. In WW1, and after the greco-turckish war, the vast majority of the millions of native Christians were either deported to Greece, killed, or escaped to Syria and other places.

  • @dbo514

    @dbo514

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@darthcalanil5333 You misunderstood what I meant. There is a huge part of the ancestry being Greek-Byzantine Christians who were forcefully converted, and several millions are still crypto-christians today (mostly armenians who changed their name and identity)

  • @jesussavedme2213
    @jesussavedme22133 жыл бұрын

    All that book 📖 for that little ole book of yours...... u really worked up a lot of nerves. KEEP DOING IT!!! God bless u & ur family. May the Holy Spirit keep on guiding u & give u wisdom 🙏

  • @shubhamtripathi8683
    @shubhamtripathi86833 жыл бұрын

    Unboxing with a butter knife... Very progressive doc.. 😌

  • @jonatandjurachkovitch460
    @jonatandjurachkovitch4603 жыл бұрын

    I felt your pain with the boxes

  • @variantquran4505

    @variantquran4505

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes. Quite well wrapped...

  • @euanthompson
    @euanthompson3 жыл бұрын

    A tip for future unboxing vids. Invest in a good stanley knife. Also very impressed with the reading speed. How fast you turn those pages. ;P Looking forward to the review.

  • @sandrampillay2652
    @sandrampillay2652 Жыл бұрын

    We are the truth seekers. So let it be brought out into the open.

  • @Hotchips1
    @Hotchips13 жыл бұрын

    Am worried that deep down Brubaker is becoming a muslim. He used be more aggressive in his rebuttals which was great to watch. It seems to me he has become much calmer in his rebuttal attacks. Not sure whats happening to him. Hopefully he stays on our side.

  • @livresque-tsundoku
    @livresque-tsundoku3 жыл бұрын

    Hello Pr Brubaker, When does the French version of your book "Corrections in Early Qur'ān Manuscripts" will be published ? I look forward to it ! Thanks 👍🏻

  • @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/aXqZk7Gjj6-4g7Q.html 👊

  • @variantquran4505

    @variantquran4505

    Жыл бұрын

    I am still looking for a qualified and willing translator for a French edition. If you are aware of one, please have them contact us at admin@danielbrubaker.com. Thanks!

  • @theuglypaulus
    @theuglypaulus3 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Brubaker.. you have made many Muslims scared to death

  • @theuglypaulus

    @theuglypaulus

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@suflateef2049 Ha ha ha ha dont you know that even yaser Qadhi says the standart narrative (Qoran) has holes in it....LOL

  • @isaiah68craig36
    @isaiah68craig363 жыл бұрын

    This feels like Christmas in February, March! Really looking forward to a rebuttal of the THOUSAND'S of other errors, erasers, coverings etc. :) Truth always reveals the truth and exposes lies. Brick by brick walls of oppression and lies are being torn down. Thanks Daniel for your efforts (mind you I can almost hear you salivating to get stuck into the book you've just v received).

  • @guzwa2334
    @guzwa23343 жыл бұрын

    Keep rocking the boat Dr Dan. It's bound to topple soon 🛥️💐💕💯

  • @JP4truth
    @JP4truth3 жыл бұрын

    Dan is doing great work!

  • @laurameszaros9547
    @laurameszaros95473 жыл бұрын

    You must have really rattled them for them to have gone to the trouble of responding to you in this way. Congratulations - you're obviously doing everything right! Keep up the great work!

  • @keyazabin2308
    @keyazabin23083 жыл бұрын

    When Dr. Brubaker publishes more of the edits of the early Quran manuscripts Istanbul will be busy writing refutation after refutation 365 days a year. Lol

  • @saulien3675
    @saulien36753 жыл бұрын

    Good"The truth will set you free"

  • @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/aXqZk7Gjj6-4g7Q.html 😑

  • @Logia1978
    @Logia1978 Жыл бұрын

    2 years later, still no answer to the refutation from Istanbul.....Let me tell you that the answer will never come ....

  • @MCXM111

    @MCXM111

    Жыл бұрын

    Brubaker couldn't answer to the refutations done by lay Muslims on KZread. You expect him to answer Dr Altikulac? 😁 Brubaker is like a joke in the academic circles.

  • @NomenNescio99
    @NomenNescio993 жыл бұрын

    You need to get yourself a decent every day carry knife that is sharp, I was slightly embarrassed when you opened those boxes. Get yourself a edc flashlight as well, great for walking the dog in the evening. If you haven't got a dog, get a dog as well!

  • @lindaclark6148
    @lindaclark61483 жыл бұрын

    I'm jealous! Is it written in Turkish? I am truly excited about this! 😁

  • @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/aXqZk7Gjj6-4g7Q.html 😑

  • @tonycostaification
    @tonycostaification3 жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to your responses Dan. Blessings.

  • @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/aXqZk7Gjj6-4g7Q.html 😑

  • @xxxscodyxxx
    @xxxscodyxxx2 жыл бұрын

    Is there a link to your response about the refutation book?

  • @truthdefenders4694
    @truthdefenders46943 жыл бұрын

    Yasir (The Ultra Jealous) Qadhi should take notes on the proper way to give a rebuttal to scholarly works.

  • @sethsuleiman4419

    @sethsuleiman4419

    3 жыл бұрын

    To a layman, Dr Brubaker work is a scholarly word. Sorry to say, to a learned muslim, the work is showing his incompetency, his insincerely, his carelessness, his nil-substance research, his statictically useless data and his should-do-a better job. kzread.info/dash/bejne/o3h_05h-ipWwlKg.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/f3yhk657csXOeMo.html

  • @WhereWhatHuh

    @WhereWhatHuh

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sethsuleiman4419 Learned Muslims are called Christians.

  • @sethsuleiman4419

    @sethsuleiman4419

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@WhereWhatHuh Muslims are those who submit to the will of God; so does jesus, If christians submit as such like jesus, adam, abraham, noah, david, moses and muhammad pbuh, then they too are muslims.

  • @WhereWhatHuh

    @WhereWhatHuh

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sethsuleiman4419 Jesus does not submit, Friend. He did not submit to shaitan, nor to sin, nor to death. All of these, and every knee, shall submit to him.

  • @song4night
    @song4night3 жыл бұрын

    you, Sir, have blown holes in the islamic narrative.

  • @sethsuleiman4419

    @sethsuleiman4419

    3 жыл бұрын

    To a layman, Dr Brubaker work is blowing holes in islamic narrative. Sorry to say, to a learned muslim, the work is showing his incompetency, his insincerely, his carelessness, his nil-substance research, his statictically useless data and his should-do-a better job. kzread.info/dash/bejne/o3h_05h-ipWwlKg.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/f3yhk657csXOeMo.html

  • @song4night

    @song4night

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sethsuleiman4419 where is allah? Who is allah? And don't tell me allah is one.

  • @sethsuleiman4419

    @sethsuleiman4419

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@song4night I refer you to Quran chaper 112 of 4 verses; (1) Say, He is Allah, unique one, (2) Allah is absolute, (3) He beget not nor is He begotten, (4) Nothing is like unto Him. (2) So Allah see us day and night and hear us in noise or in silent; He create, give life, sustain and take away life. He tell us the purpose of life and how to achieve that purpose.

  • @song4night

    @song4night

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sethsuleiman4419 allah is a myth mohamed made up. Who saw allah? Anyone? It's one big fat lie. There is no allah. So allah is not one, he is zero.

  • @-Black-White-
    @-Black-White-4 ай бұрын

    When does the response come it s been 3 years now.

  • @joeynanez9897
    @joeynanez98973 жыл бұрын

    Nice hope to hear what he said about your book. God bless

  • @shanebrown2865
    @shanebrown28653 жыл бұрын

    Wow, that little book is bigger than we think

  • @aldredtawasil9339
    @aldredtawasil93393 жыл бұрын

    "since the holy Quran was revealed up to our time, not a single letter in it has been changed as we shall see in the division allotted to the Quran Al kerim....no effort that has been spared to accomplish this end...that the Quran has not been changed until now is a fact! the words of Allah will be so! it will never changed"..

  • @ngatatan2597
    @ngatatan25973 жыл бұрын

    Have you had the package checked for any dangerous items including poisons or biological agents?

  • @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/aXqZk7Gjj6-4g7Q.html 😊

  • @phillipoleary2532
    @phillipoleary25323 жыл бұрын

    Can't wait!

  • @mattaikay925
    @mattaikay9253 жыл бұрын

    Without a doubt, they are petrified, terrified, dumbstruck - wow

  • @testtest-bb2dt
    @testtest-bb2dt3 жыл бұрын

    At last they now have something that 'refutes' Dr Brubakers work, which they can call 'academic' .

  • @Claire-.-
    @Claire-.-3 жыл бұрын

    eagerly waiting for your response video to this book

  • @calebandrews2091
    @calebandrews2091 Жыл бұрын

    Did you make a response video to this book yet? Thank you.

  • @variantquran4505

    @variantquran4505

    Жыл бұрын

    Even better: I am preparing a response in book form. I expect to announce it soon.

  • @atlanticantiquesltd7372
    @atlanticantiquesltd73723 жыл бұрын

    It comes as no great surprise that 'Islam' responded to Dr Brubaker's book with 'Refutation' however, regardless of how distasteful to 'Islam' the facts may be; facts have no favoritism or prejust and still remain the facts. Regardless of the merits or lack of merits of the book 'Refutation', what this book will do is give Muslims the opportunity to blindly claim 'Dr Brubaker's book has been refuted case closed' which conforms completely with the Muslim mindset...

  • @sethsuleiman4419

    @sethsuleiman4419

    3 жыл бұрын

    To a layman, Dr Brubaker work is an eye opener to muslims. Sorry to say, to a learned muslim, the work is showing his incompetency, his insincerely, his carelessness, his nil-substance research, his statictically useless data and his should-do-a better job. kzread.info/dash/bejne/o3h_05h-ipWwlKg.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/f3yhk657csXOeMo.html

  • @cjay2

    @cjay2

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sethsuleiman4419 Ha ha ha! Thanks for the good laugh! The taqiyya is strong with you, dude.

  • @purplesand3874
    @purplesand38743 жыл бұрын

    How exciting!!!

  • @John-qo6fs
    @John-qo6fs3 жыл бұрын

    Let critical thinking and free speech florish and who oppose should go to Mars.

  • @untold3605
    @untold36053 жыл бұрын

    Thankyou for one small handbook sir Dan, It’s not less than just like single sling Stone of king David boy.

  • @tamilex-muslims4833
    @tamilex-muslims48333 жыл бұрын

    Really getting excited 😛

  • @tamilex-muslims4833

    @tamilex-muslims4833

    3 жыл бұрын

    @race Car congratulations bro 😎🥳

  • @kyliereed200
    @kyliereed2003 жыл бұрын

    You show so much class and respect.

  • @Crocs_in_the_gym
    @Crocs_in_the_gym3 жыл бұрын

    Please leave these books away from the goats 🐐

  • @AstridBerbagi11
    @AstridBerbagi113 жыл бұрын

    Trima Kasih 🙏🌹

  • @darshake1
    @darshake13 жыл бұрын

    Cannot wait to see your reply.

  • @swissapologetics
    @swissapologetics3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting

  • @hans471

    @hans471

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hallo Ron! 🤗

  • @swissapologetics

    @swissapologetics

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hans471 Hallo Hans. Wie geht's?

  • @hans471

    @hans471

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@swissapologetics danke gut. Habe deine Kommentare beim Achso Kanal gelesen. Schön, dass es nun auch einen deutschen Kanal zum Thema gibt...

  • @swissapologetics

    @swissapologetics

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hans471 Ja find ich auch. Obwohl es ja noch ein paar andere deutsche Kanäle gibt, die über den Idlam aufklären.

  • @didierfavre2356
    @didierfavre23563 жыл бұрын

    Sir, take your time, think about it, make your mind and answer. I understand it will take some time but I'm very interested by your answer to this book.

  • @jaytv4eva
    @jaytv4eva11 ай бұрын

    So...where is your evaluation of their refutation?

  • @jeffersonsola
    @jeffersonsola3 жыл бұрын

    Thats for sure a beatifull printing. Curious about the arguments and counter arguments that will come.

  • @ngatatan2597
    @ngatatan25973 жыл бұрын

    Well be interesting to see how Altikulaç addresses the facts that you presented in your book - the fact that there are human corrections in the oldest surviving manuscripts of the Qur'an of the 20 genres highlighted briefly by your academic research and thesis... Who knows why these corrections were undertaken - be it to correct scribal errors in transcriptions, or to standardise variant manuscripts to a standard narration, or a combination of both. The fact is that there exists these corrections of the 20+ types your research has uncovered and this fact completely DESTROYS the Islamic narrative that the Generous Quran (al-Quran al-Kareem) is perfectly preserved -word for word, letter for letter, tashkil for tashkil, and that in turn destroys the foundational Islamic claim of divine source and authority for Islam as a religion from God and Muhammad as a prophet of God!

  • @bankubanga789
    @bankubanga7898 ай бұрын

    Did you ever do a rebuttal on this book?

  • @yvonnegonzales2973
    @yvonnegonzales29733 жыл бұрын

    Counter: refutation on heretic traditional arabica coffee texts

  • @scriptureexamined4664
    @scriptureexamined46643 жыл бұрын

    Two unboxings in this video: The one of your bald head and the one of the book itself. ;-)

  • @amreel-kabarity9242
    @amreel-kabarity92423 жыл бұрын

    بارك الله فيك

  • @valuesim
    @valuesim3 жыл бұрын

    Good luck with the reading. Greetings from Norway.

  • @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/aXqZk7Gjj6-4g7Q.html 😑

  • @Unknown2Yoo
    @Unknown2Yoo3 жыл бұрын

    Hehehe, I think you need a box cutter, Dr. B. 😁

  • @artvanderlay1308
    @artvanderlay13083 жыл бұрын

    Who else thought the package was heavy because there was a bomb in it?

  • @true-islamapologetics7156

    @true-islamapologetics7156

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/aXqZk7Gjj6-4g7Q.html 🤔

  • @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    @cometosuccesscometosuccess2030

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@true-islamapologetics7156 kzread.info/dash/bejne/aXqZk7Gjj6-4g7Q.html 🤔

  • @Kstxrd
    @Kstxrd3 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Brubaker I am curious if you have found Surahs 2:142 thru 2:145 in any pre-8th century Qur'an manuscripts? Some have suggested that these verses were a later addition to the Quranic text so I am wondering if you can shed any light on this matter?

  • @bringemyoungpbuh4123

    @bringemyoungpbuh4123

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just wait until they find out the the majority of Qibla tool aps are bogus.

  • @valentintomberg4276
    @valentintomberg42763 жыл бұрын

    The tongue always turns to the aching tooth.