The Bible shows women serving in important ways in the church we read about in the New Testament. For instance, Phoebe was a servant in the church (Romans 16:1-2) but it does not specify what kind of service she was involved in. Some took care of Jesus’ needs (Lk.8). Others served in benevolent ways (Acts 9). Our culture may teach there is no distinction in gender roles, but the Bible teaches otherwise. Who are we going to listen to?

In the qualifications given for "bishops" (i.e., pastors, elders, shepherds), Paul twice says they must be "the husband of one wife" (1 Tim. 3:2; Titus 1:6). Unless you are willing to accept two lesbians living together and call it a "marriage," there is no way for a woman to be "the husband of one wife."

@lukekrangar9382

2 жыл бұрын

I really like this reference. It ends up the argument in strong evidence. And even the first verse in 1 Tim 3 said ... If a man desires to the office of a bishop, HE desires a good thing.... Paul didn't expect that women will say they want to be.

@bikerboy9010

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think it's sexist to be against women pastors. Everyone I know that believes it's a sin for women to be pastors is not a sexist. I believe that men and women should be treated fairly, shouldn't be wrongfully discriminated against, etc, but at the same time, men and women are different from one another, and sometimes their differences need to be taken into consideration in certain circumstances. I know many Christians who believe it's a sin for women to be pastors, and I know many Christians who believe it's not a sin for women to be pastors. Christians do vary in different issues since some Christians believe people should never drink alcohol while other Christians believe it's ok to drink a little bit of alcohol, some Christians are Calvinists while others aren't, etc, but the things all Christians have in common are all Christians have accepted Christ in their heart and meant it in their heart, don't live a lifestyle defined by sin, don't want to take advantage of grace, and want to live for the Lord. Some people think that "husband of one wife" means it's a sin for women to be pastors due to the masculine word husband being used in that verse. The thing is all throughout the Bible when a masculine word is used, the situation applies to both men and women. For example, when the Bible says in Matthew 10:37 how "he that loveth a mother or father more than me is not worthy of me", the situation applies to both men and women even though the masculine word he is used. When the Bible says "Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife", the situation applies to everyone meaning it's not okay for a man to covet thy neighbor's wife and it's also not okay for a woman to covet thy neighbor's husband. In Ephesians 4:8, when the Bible says he gave gifts to all men, it's referring to giving gifts to everyone not just men. In John 1:12 when a masculine word is used, the situation is applying to both men and women. I do know "husband of one wife" isn't meant to be taken literally. The Greek word for "husband of one wife" means one woman man, someone who doesn't struggle with adultery, someone who doesn't struggle with being a player, someone who is not a womanizer, etc. "Husband of one wife" means pastors need to be people who don't struggle with adultery. Some people think "husband of one wife" means pastors have to be married due to the word husband being used in that verse, but it doesn't mean pastors have to be married; it means pastors need to be people who don't struggle with adultery. Paul, Timothy, and Titus were pastors of churches, and they were never married, and God approved of them being pastors. When the Bible says pastors must manage their household well in 1 Timothy, it doesn't mean pastors are required to have kids; it means that pastors are required to be good parents if they have kids. Paul, Timothy, and Titus were pastors of churches, and they never had kids, and God approved of them being pastors. 1 Timothy 2 mentions how "I don't permit a woman to have spiritual authority over a man". It's very hard to tell whether that's a universal principle or a cultural principle of Timothy restricting women from Ephesus that were false prophets from preaching. The context of 1 Timothy is Timothy ministering to people in Ephesus. In Ephesus, many women were teaching the false doctrine of Gnosticism. If "I don't permit a woman to have spiritual authority over a man" is a universal principle that isn't a cultural principle, it would prove how it's a sin for women to be pastors.

@anniewoods7125

2 жыл бұрын

We must worship in spirit in truth, there is no gender when it comes to spirit. Spirit of the word, let the spirit lead. Acts 18:24-28

@kac0404

2 жыл бұрын

@@anniewoods7125 You said that, to say what....

@joesteele3159

2 жыл бұрын

You must not have watched the whole sermon as he addresses that very passage and gives a pretty good argument for it.

I like your perspective!

Women like men are called to evangelize and to share the Gospel to everyone and women can teach other women and children. However, when it comes to the leadership role within the Church, the leadership role is reserved for male as stated in the books of 1 and 2 Timothy and Titus. Explain what these books say, especially when it says "Deacons must be 'men of dignity' (1 Timothy 3:8). Paul then speaks of women in verse 11 and their obligation to receive instruction. Then in verse 12, Paul says 'Let deacons be husbands of one wife…' Again, in Titus 1:5-7, Paul says, 'For this reason I left you in Crete, that you might set in order what remains, and appoint elders in every city as I directed you, namely, if any man be above reproach, the husband of one wife, having children who believe, not accused of dissipation or rebellion." Also, 1 Timothy 3:1-2 says "The saying is trustworthy: If anyone aspires to the office of overseer, he desires a noble task. Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, " So what does the Scripture mean when it says let deacons and overseers (leaders, elders, pastors) be husband of one wife? Is this role for a man or woman? If it is for woman, then she needs a wife. Right? Then there is contradiction and the Bible does have contradiction? Remember Satan who was a cherub in heaven had a role as a covering, but decided to take another role and left his place? Satan didn't want the role of a cherub but wanted a role of god. There are many men want to be a pastor, but only about 1 percent are called to be pastor. What about the 99 percent of other men who are not pastors? There are other roles for men are called to. Not all men have role of pastors and there is no shame in that. Women have specific roles in the church and that is a great honor even it is not a role of a overseer or lead pastor. Christ is the head of the church. Man is the head of the home. There are roles within the church. When it comes to outside of the church and if a woman wants to be president of the USA, by all means go for it since it is not church.

@petedawn1538

2 жыл бұрын

The emphasis Paul is trying relay (in requirement of deacons, etc) is not of gender, but of faithfulness when it comes to a spouse. Yes, he said "husband of one wife". Does that mean a leader has to be married? No. Even Paul says elsewhere that he wished everyone was like him (unmarried) but it's good to be married if you must to avoid sexual immorality. So the basis for both is avoiding sexual immorality. Be blessed!

@liveinthelightofjesus9649

2 жыл бұрын

@@petedawn1538 "God is a God of order and balance. He has established order within the family (Gen. 3:16; 1 Cor. 11:3; Eph. 5:22-33; Col. 3:18-21) and the church (1 Timothy 2:11-14; 1 Cor. 11:8-9). Even within the Trinity, there is an order, a hierarchy. The Father sent the Son (John 6:38), and both the Father and the Son sent the Holy Spirit (John 14:26; 15:26). Jesus said, “For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me,” (John 6:38). It is clear that God is a God of order and structure. This applies in the Christian church as well. In creation, God made Adam first and then Eve to be his helper. This is the order of creation. It is this order that Paul mentions in 1 Timothy 2:11-14 when speaking of authority. Being a pastor or an elder is to be in the place of authority. Therefore, within the church, for a woman to be a pastor or elder, she would be in authority over men in the church which contradicts what Paul says in 1 Timothy 2:11-14." Even if the woman is not married, that does not mean the "pastor leadership" role is for a woman. The point is not that a person has to be married, but the role is reserved for males when leading a church. Here are two links about leaders/pastors/overseers and co-pastoring in the church. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ao2Fs9lsiK-3qJc.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/rJ2XkrNvltKrj5s.html

@walterwalls6507

2 жыл бұрын

@@petedawn1538 you're honestly being in denia for what scripture is clear on instead youre using your righteousness to push your agenda. Proverbs 30:6 Add thou not unto his word, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar

@petedawn1538

2 жыл бұрын

@@walterwalls6507 Yes. I have an agenda. It's to see souls saved. What's yours?

@petedawn1538

2 жыл бұрын

God's greatest commandment is what? Do you know? I hope. Because if you do know, then you'd realize that you're not practicing it when you choose to make irrational assumptions towards people you meet on the internet. Allow people to see Christ through you, my friend. Don't be one that makes people feel defeated and never good enough for God. Words go a long way, sir.

This is an excellent and informative video. Christians do vary on different issues. Some Christians think it's a sin for women to be pastors. Some Christians think it's not a sin for women to be pastors. Some Christians think going out to eat on Sunday is a sin while other Christians don't. Some Christians are Calvinists while other Christians aren't. Some Christians think it's ok to drink a little bit of alcohol while other Christians think people should never drink alcohol. Even though Christians vary on different issues, the things all Christians have in common is they have accepted Christ in their heart and mean it in their heart, they don't live a lifestyle defined by sin, they don't want to take advantage of grace, and they want to live for the Lord. 1 Timothy 2 mentions how "I don't permit a woman to have spiritual authority over a man". It's very hard to tell whether that's a universal principle or a cultural principle of Timothy restricting women from Ephesus that were false prophets from preaching. The context of 1 Timothy is Timothy ministering to people in Ephesus. In Ephesus, many women were teaching the false doctrine of Gnosticism. If "I don't permit a woman to have spiritual authority over a man" is a universal principle that isn't a cultural principle, it would prove how it's a sin for women to be pastors. Some people use "the husband of one wife" argument to prove how it's a sin for women to be pastors due to the masculine word husband being in that verse, but all throughout the Bible when a masculine word is used, the situation applies to both men and women. In Matthew 10:37 when it says that he that loveth a father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, the situation applies to both men and woman even though the masculine word he is used. When the Bible says thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife, the situation applies to both men and women. Women shouldn't covet other woman's husbands just as much as a man coveting another man's wife. In Ephesians 4:8, when the Bible says he gave gifts to all men, it's referring to giving gifts to everyone not just men. In John 1:12 when a masculine word is used, the situation is applying to both men and women. I do know "husband of one wife" isn't meant to be taken literally. The Greek word for "husband of one wife" means one woman man, someone who doesn't struggle with adultery, someone who doesn't struggle with being a player, someone who is not a womanizer, etc. "Husband of one wife" means pastors need to be people who don't struggle with adultery. Some people think "husband of one wife" means pastors have to be married due to the word husband, but it doesn't mean pastors have to be married; it means pastors need to be people who don't struggle with adultery. Paul, Timothy, and Titus were pastors of churches, and they were never married, and God approved of them being pastors. When the Bible says pastors must manage their household well in 1 Timothy, it doesn't mean pastors are required to have kids; it means that pastors are required to be good parents if they have kids. Paul, Timothy, and Titus were pastors of churches, and they never had kids, and God approved of them being pastors.

@casesensitive1059

2 жыл бұрын

So we can replace masculine “husband”with “wife”. So we now have “wife of one wife”. I refuse this, because it simply means the subject shouldn’t have been brought up in the Holy Bible in the first place. By the way there’s ample difference between “he” and “husband”…

@bikerboy9010

2 жыл бұрын

​@@casesensitive1059 Thanks for your comment. You are correct how there's ample difference between he and husband. There are other verses in the Bible where a masculine or feminine word besides he or she is used where the situation applies to both men and women. When the Bible says "Whosoever looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery in his heart" in Matthew 5:28, the situation applies to both men and women in the sense that lusting after men is just as bad as lusting after women even though the word woman is used in Matthew 5:28. When the Bible says "Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife", it means coveting your neighbor's wife and coveting your neighbor's husband is a sin even though the word wife is used because the point of that verse is coveting a neighbor's spouse is a sin. Many Bible verses are meant to be taken literally, but not all Bible verses are meant to be taken literally. Understanding the context of a verse and Greek and Hebrew words in verses are great ways of determining whether the verses are meant to be taken literally. I'll give you some examples of Bible verses that aren't meant to be taken literally. When the Bible says in Hebrews 8:12 how if you confess your sins to God, he remembers them no more, it doesn't mean God literally forgets the sins you commit; it means God doesn't dwell on the issue anymore. When Matthew 5:29 says if your right eye causes you to sin pluck it out, it's not meant to be taken literally; what it means is sometimes you have to go to extreme measures to stop engaging in certain kinds of sins like sometimes people have to get rid of their credit cards to deal with their spending addiction problem. There's a lot of evidence that proves "husband of one wife" in 1 Timothy 3 is not meant to be taken literally. If "husband of one wife" is meant to be taken literally, it would be mean that a single person couldn't be a pastor due to a single person not being a husband since husband implies being married. The Greek word for "husband of one wife" in 1 Timothy 3 is mias gunaikos andra which means one woman man, someone who doesn't struggle with adultery, someone who's not a womanizer, etc which is strong evidence how when the Bible says pastors need to be the "husband of one wife", it means pastors need to be people who don't struggle with adultery; not that pastors have to be married. Other strong evidence that proves how "husband of one wife" isn't meant to be taken literally is how Paul, Timothy, and Titus were pastors of churches, and they were never married, and God approved of them being pastors. Paul used the phrase "husband of one wife" due to almost everyone during that time period being married; not because being married is a requirement for being a pastor. It's ok if you believe "husband of one wife" is meant to be taken literally. There's many people who agree with me on the "husband of one wife" issue, and there's many people who disagree with me on the "husband of one wife" issue. There's many Christians and Non Christians who believe "husband of one wife" is meant to be taken literally, and there's many Christians and Non Christians who believe "husband of one wife" isn't meant to be taken literally. Going to heaven isn't determined by a person's belief on what "husband of one wife" means. Going to heaven according to Christianity is determined by accepting Christ in your heart and really meaning it in your heart.

@samtv6447

2 жыл бұрын

I love this teaching

Interesting topic to say the least. When we read the passage of 1Timothy about women it does not mention “in the church” what could be interpreted as women not ever been allowed to teach men, or have authority over men anywhere. The more I read the Bible, the more I understand that many passages are interpreted as it seams convenient to the church. There are many examples of women taking leadership roles in the Bible. According to the Book of Judges, Deborah was a prophetess of the God of the Israelites, the fourth Judge of pre-monarchic Israel and the only female judge mentioned in the Bible. She lead Barak on the victory against the Philistines. If a woman has tHe gift of pastoring, which could only come from the Holy Spirit, she shouldn’t be limited by men’s opinion. Perhaps some church leaders (men) should be more like Jesus and value women like He did.

@esdrassalgado8850

2 жыл бұрын

Not limited by “Men’s opinion” more of what the word of God says. Not saying I agree 100% with women not being pastors but to say that men’s opinion of no women pastors is not an opinion, it’s stated in 1 Timothy 2:12. We can’t discredit the word of God. It’s definitely a debatable subject but just cause you “feel” called to something doesn’t throw away scripture. If a man of several wife’s feels called to be a pastor does that automatically make it right to overthrow scripture? Which says a pastor should be the husband of 1 wife? .

@pastorkourtneycarter-hallAFC

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. When studying this controversial topic we must study the entirety of scripture considering the cultural context. We must rightly divide the word of truth. Therefore we must study. We must learn the principles that are being taught. God can use anyone. His Spirit is poured out on all of us. Joel 2. We are not sure about why Paul told Timothy that women should be silent. Those were his directions and instructions for that time and that situation. Read the entire context. There are more scriptures that support women in leadership than otherwise. Jesus has removed the limits off of us.

@dsmaths9023

2 жыл бұрын

They shld not be pastors. Deborah's leadership was political not in church. The Bible is to be believed not debated. She can be a prophetess, singer but not taking authority by preaching the gospel. NO

@pililani_blessings

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly It is not a sin for women to preach or pastor or teach in the church or outside. Galatians 3 v 28

Also 1 Corinthians 14:26…. Says WHEN you come together EVERYONE HAS: so if women and men were / are present in the church , looks like everyone and that would require women to speak.

Generation Church, you just set many believers/followers free, this message actually uses the whole counsel of God to expound. I have only seen that happen a couple of times on you tube. Many women have always known they are anointed to carry out their calling but have "been beat" down in order to satisfy the mans ego. God still got their messages (and will continue to do so) out while it was rejected by some. So what's new? There has always been enemies of the prophets, that will never stop this side of heaven.God's will WILL be done. God does not call your flesh, He calls your spirit. God will put you (anointed ones) in the company of those He intends to minister to thru you. So relax, be at peace and share your gift. Trust God. Smile, continue in your studies and prayer, continue to love God with all your heart, love those around you and keep putting one foot in front of the other. Naysayers do not represent God, there is only one accuser of the brethren.

Galatians 3:28 says, “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Jesus Christ.” This verse is not about church roles or leadership in the church. Rather, it is speaking of salvation in Christ. "A closer look at Galatians 3:28 will reveal that Paul is showing there is no distinction between Jew and Greek. This is important because the Jewish people understood the Messiah was coming only for them (Matt. 15:24). Paul negates the distinction of nationality regarding salvation as he also negates the distinction of slave and free, male and female. He says, “you are all one in Christ. Thus, Galatians 3:28 is not about women in ministry but about those who are “in Christ”-those who are saved. Therefore, it does not support the idea of women elders and pastors."

@Sunshine-op3mn

2 жыл бұрын

AMEN!!! and thank you for your response!

@liveinthelightofjesus9649

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sunshine-op3mn God bless you sister. Keep the faith and continue to read the Bible.

@GROENAASMusic

2 жыл бұрын

THIS!

@liveinthelightofjesus9649

2 жыл бұрын

@@eljjr130 Matt. 15:24 ...Jesus says, " I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." I mentioned in the first post that Jesus was coming for the Jewish people as Matt. 15:24 says lost sheep of the house of Israel. It does not say anything that you said about administrative positions.

@liveinthelightofjesus9649

2 жыл бұрын

@@eljjr130 I guess you believe that woman could be and should hold Church office leader as the Pastor or overseer? "God is a God of order and balance. He has established order within the family (Gen. 3:16; 1 Cor. 11:3; Eph. 5:22-33; Col. 3:18-21) and the church (1 Timothy 2:11-14; 1 Cor. 11:8-9). Even within the Trinity, there is an order, a hierarchy. The Father sent the Son (John 6:38), and both the Father and the Son sent the Holy Spirit (John 14:26; 15:26).3 Jesus said, “For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me,” (John 6:38). It is clear that God is a God of order and structure. This applies in the Christian church as well. In creation, God made Adam first and then Eve to be his helper. This is the order of creation. It is this order that Paul mentions in 1 Timothy 2:11-14 when speaking of authority. Being a pastor or an elder is to be in the place of authority. Therefore, within the church, for a woman to be a pastor or elder, she would be in authority over men in the church which contradicts what Paul says in 1 Timothy 2:11-14."

Women must submit to men, but men must give something for women to submit to.

@yvettelordschild6616

2 жыл бұрын

Im not called to submit to all men, just my husband.

Also it says as to THE LAW…. We are under grace now…. Would that be relevant?1 corinthians 14:34,35

@sandypike2431

2 жыл бұрын

Jesus also said He didn't come to abolish the law but to fulfill it. The grace we now live under is because he came to pay the penalty for our sin and so reconcile us to God. God is both just and merciful. Paul puts your question this way does God's grace give us ' liscence' to sin more? No. God remain both just and merciful.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for explaining how women preaching and leading is allowed and honors God. I saw this video just in time because I've been falling out of love with Christ's church given how it tends to treat women as "other" and make them sit in the back of the ecclesiastical bus. So many people, men and women, read the Bible through the lenses of male-entitlement instead of through the lenses of Christ.

@Sanctified57

3 жыл бұрын

The lense of Paul is the lense of christ, and through that lense one can clearly see that leadership is male. Women are not permitted to teach or have authority over a man

@keithbarrett7

2 жыл бұрын

This is false teachings. Sorry your 'feelings' have gotten in your way of serving God. God does not change and His word does not either. Christ is the head of the man and man the head of the woman; in that order.

@rudeymayor

2 жыл бұрын

​@@keithbarrett7 correct. 100% false teacher. God words supersedes our own standards. Don't let your disagreement with God's will set you on the path of disobedience

It may be a debated topic, but we are not supposed to add to or take away from the Bible. The 1 Timothy only applies to teach or exercising authority as it states in the beginning of this passage. Welcoming people to church or following along in worship is not holding authority or teaching over man. Also, the Bible is so amazing in many ways. One of those ways is remaining universal no matter how much time has passed.

@user-iz8np3vv4i

Жыл бұрын

Ashley I suggest my short essay on Deborah the Judge (Judges 4 and 5). A Judge had authority over men and was a spiritual leader. Her story was taught for about 1000 years before Paul came. The Jews that became Christians in the 1st century knew her story. Complementarianism is a false teaching. At its center it supports a two-tiered priesthood based on birthright. But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood... -excerpt 1 Peter 2 Reply if desired. I post on women's matters.

So Paul is instructing different church on different teaching?

Is there one for wives somewhere? I am interested in hearing it also.

@genchurchaz

Жыл бұрын

These concepts apply to wives as well but you may find more of what you're looking for here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/haVkxMivZJmehLQ.html

@sophiejones930

Жыл бұрын

@@genchurchaz Ty for responding. Since I posted this I have been able to watch the video Vlad and his wife have for wives recently. This household has formed a great appreciation for all these videos. My man has even started listening to the back videos at work. It's keeping us plugged in and encourages us into a closer walk with God.We discussed this morning how we like that there's a new video almost everyday from Generation Church,Vlad,Demon Slayers etc. It gives us something in between our services with GVBC. I will say it again, I will always be thankful for Nashville Fox news having a fit that Pastor Locke not closing GVBC. I would of never found such a wonderful church. I grew up in the wave of what is happening right now in churches in the 70s. It was great till men started making it about themselves. God took it away. I am glad Pastor Locke is sensitive to this. I have seen it first hand. God Bless you for being a vessel in this movement. Hohenwald Tennessee

Awesome job of bringing in all of the scriptures.

Every Christian should read, "In the Beginning: The Truth Behind Genesis.", by Robert R. Davis. All prohibition against women in leadership stems from Genesis 2&3 (Adam & Eve). The real issue is we never teach or look at Genesis 5:2 "Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created."

Romans 16 Young's Literal Translation: 7salute Andronicus and Junias, my kindred, and my fellow-captives, who are of note *among* the apostles, who also have been in Christ before me

Either you believe the entirety of God’s word or you will tear it apart because of your feelings! It says because Adam was created first and Eve was deceived! That’s why not because of culture but because of creation and then disobedience!!!!

@user-iz8np3vv4i

10 ай бұрын

I suggest my short and free essay on Deborah. Men and women are perfectly equal spiritually. She was a pastor, according to the scriptures. This is how the Judges are described in Chronicles by God. A woman could only be given the authority by God to execute a man for his sin, if women are spiritually equal to men. A Judge could judge homicide cases according to Deuteronomy. Therefore a Judge could execute a man. Any doctrine that is in opposition to what God actually did is a false doctrine, and must be rejected.

Praise God like it is written we have to do the will of God and keep his word like it is written if we break it we are rejected God word and God women should not do a preach or preaching job because God shows his preachs that will do his job like it is written if you break the word of God like it is written they are men followers and not of God if not how long we be in a church that save us what save us is doing the will of God like it is written save yourself from this unward generation that is breaking God word A-MEN

If woman only knew just how important she is AS a WOMAN they would stop trying to be one of the men...

@nguyenmy3864

2 жыл бұрын

In addition, I think we should also teach men how to regard women's role which God gives them and as husbands they must love wives like Christ loves the church. I'm always wondering why no one asks why women have thought about feminism and started this movement, why do you always blame us? They started this movement because they were treated disrepectedly, badly and unfairly by many men, some even have been abused. As a Christian, I know and believe our value are equal in front of God and God gave us different roles which are both precious in God's sight. But look at what some of men do when they didn't follow God's word and look down on OUR - WOMEN'S ROLE, they disregared us and betrayed, they look at us as we are unworthy objects. I think in the world there are more women who have successfully finished her duty with her husband is to be respect to her own husband than men who can finished his duty to his own wife is to love her as Christ loves the church. We are WOMEN - THE WEARKER VESSEL because GOD CREATED US THIS WAY, this has nothing to to do with deserving to be treated disrepectedly. I will always trust in God and never doubt his design of women and men, but some men in the world dissapoint me a lot. However, I always pray to God for a blessed marriage with a man who fears of God and loves me as he loves his body, I still belive in God's promise for me.

@liveinthelightofjesus9649

2 жыл бұрын

@@nguyenmy3864 Sister in Christ, there is no shame in the roles what God gives us. When it comes to the Church, we have to follow what He says in the Bible. The Scripture says that a role for a leader in the church is the man of one wife (See 1 Timothy, 2 Timothy and Titus books). This does not mean the woman is less. In fact woman is very blessed to have the ability to carry a baby in her womb for 9 months and then get to teach that child to follow God in his or her young life is a great honor. All men do not have this luxury because most men are outside working and do not have much spending time with the child as mom does. Being a mom is a great honor that God gives women. Women have greater influence in the child's life than men. However, if a woman wants to become a leader like a president of a company or the president of the US, then by all means go for it because this position in not in the church. In the Church, it is different. We must follow what the Scriptures say in the Bible as instructed by God. Don't let our feelings and pride change what God says. God Bless you.

@nguyenmy3864

2 жыл бұрын

@@liveinthelightofjesus9649 I understand your point but I know all what you said and I know I'm blessed by the role which God has given me. But please understand my point is about how a lot of men treat women around them disrespectfully or badly, I'm not saying about God and our role but about how a lot of men don't appreciate and respect us or our role, they think when they go out and work to earn money they have the right to treat us like that.

@liveinthelightofjesus9649

2 жыл бұрын

@@nguyenmy3864 Sister, you are right about that man should love his wife like the Bible says. Yes, there are men out there do no show love to their wives and that is bad. God tells man to love his wife and wife to respect her husband (See Ephesians 5:22-33). This issue is about loving and respecting each other as married couple or husband and wife. However, when it comes to the church position or roles, the pastors or leaders are for men. This is about offices or position roles. This is a different topic. The pastor in the video is talking about church office roles. I agree with you that man should love his wife unconditionally. The man has role in the family home, but that does not mean he can be abusive to the wife. That is a no no. He must live his wife.

@nguyenmy3864

2 жыл бұрын

@@liveinthelightofjesus9649 That's my point. And yes I was replying to the comment above so I mentioned women and men's role in general and in family. Additionally, I was mad at some stories about how men treated women badly so maybe I commented in that mood, I wasn't saying about role in church so I didn't mention it. Anyway thanks.

Another example of Woke Christianity. This guy is truly mixed up. God established the roles of leadership in the church and made it very plain, but somehow we have to use feminism and women's liberation to change the church in our present culture. Women are told to lead and teach - TO THE CHILDREN AND YOUNGER WOMEN, not the men. And by the way, John McArthur was right. Strong women create weak men - wimps. A woman who is not submissive to her husband will not be submissive to God. God set the order, not man and not modern culture!

@liveinthelightofjesus9649

2 жыл бұрын

You are right. Remember Satan who was a cherub in heaven had a role as a covering, but decided to take another role and left his place? Satan didn't want the role of a cherub but wanted a role of god.

@luizamoraru9448

2 жыл бұрын

As a woman, I do not agree with some verses. I don't understand why I should "submit" to a man. He is a human, like me , thus we are equal. I will not submit to another human- I will submit to the divine. The whole idea of "submissiveness"... makes me feel quite literally, ashamed to be a woman. We also have to take into consideration the evident patriarchy that dominated society during the time those verses were written. Women were uneducated, had barely any freedom. We now live in a society where both men and women have access to education, jobs etc. One thing i also want to point out is that Jesus himself, respected, defended and supported women. To conclude, i will only submit to Jesus and God. I will not submit to a man, because as i said, he is a human like me. "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you all one in Christ Jesus."

@walterwalls6507

2 жыл бұрын

@@luizamoraru9448 Titus 2:3-5 The age women likewise that they be in behavior as becometh holiness. Not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things. That they may teach their young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children. To be discreet, chaste, KEEPERS AT HOME, GOOD, OBEDIENT TO THEIR OWN HUSBANDS, *THAT THE WORD OF GOD BE NOT BLASEPHEMED*

@walterwalls6507

2 жыл бұрын

@@luizamoraru9448 either you submit yourself to the commandments of the most high God or chose your own god to serve.

@amaledward2147

2 жыл бұрын

Your opinion dont matter. The reason? Women are not fit to lead. Look at you, you cant even follow the basic laws of Bible and u wanna teach us?

You never hear the word "ezer kenegdo" an how it relates to the creation of woman and her purpose designsted by God.

Great message. Bless you Pastor ❤

Ephesians 5:21: Submit to one another - that means the husband to the wife. All of these verses are not about authority since Christ didn't talk about authority, but are an example that Paul give on how to live out Christ's command to love one another.

@SithWithNoName

2 жыл бұрын

Why did you leave off Ephesians 5:22-24 ??? I’ll let you look it up for yourselves so you get practice at actually reading the Bible for yourself.

@walterwalls6507

2 жыл бұрын

@@SithWithNoName dude happily knitpicked

@docdee770

2 жыл бұрын

No. In verse 21, Paul told the Ephesians to submit to each other; verses 22 to 24, Paul tells the wife to submit to her husband, and to be subject to him in EVERYTHING. The husband isn't supposed to submit to the wife; the wife is supposed to be subject to her husband as the Church is to be subject to Christ. The man is a replication of Jesus Christ, and the woman is a replication of the New testament Church.

Exactly It is not a sin for women to preach or pastor or teach in the church or outside. (Galatians 3 v 28) . But for Women covering their heads in places of worship, It is still a command. #God revealed this to me and others. #It is still in effect. It is a sin for women to worship God with their head uncovered Or For Men to cover their heads.

@earnestlycontendingforthef5332

2 жыл бұрын

It is a commandment of the Lord they remain silent in the church assemblies. "As [is the practice] in all the churches of the saints (God's people), 34 The women should keep quiet in the churches, for they are not authorized to speak, but should take a secondary and subordinate place, just as the Law also says. 35 But if there is anything they want to learn, they should ask their own husbands at home, for it is disgraceful for a woman to talk in church [ for her to usurp and exercise authority over men in the church]. 36 What! Did the word of the Lord originate with you [Corinthians], or has it reached only you? 37 If anyone thinks and claims that he is a prophet [filled with and governed by the Holy Spirit of God and inspired to interpret the divine will and purpose in preaching or teaching] or has any other spiritual endowment, let him understand (recognize and acknowledge) ***What what I am writing to you is a command of the Lord***. 38 But if anyone disregards or does not recognize [ that it is a command of the Lord], he is disregarded and not recognized [he is one whom God knows not]. 1 Corinthians 14:33-38 (AMPLIFIED ,BIBLE) Thus if any insist on disregarding the Lord's command for a woman's silence they have become "One whom God knows not" Which is a most undignified and ungodly position any man or woman could possibly find themselves. For even St. Paul's instruction makes it quite plain that women are forbidden to teach men and must not usurp their God given authority. "11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression" 1 Timothy 2:10-14 (KJV)

@pililani_blessings

2 жыл бұрын

@@earnestlycontendingforthef5332 No They are free to preach and teach. Humble yourself with fasting and ask the Lord in Prayer. He will tell u the same thing.

@earnestlycontendingforthef5332

2 жыл бұрын

@@pililani_blessings t is a commandment of the Lord they remain silent in the church assemblies. "As [is the practice] in all the churches of the saints (God's people), 34 The women should keep quiet in the churches, for they are not authorized to speak, but should take a secondary and subordinate place, just as the Law also says. 35 But if there is anything they want to learn, they should ask their own husbands at home, for it is disgraceful for a woman to talk in church [ for her to usurp and exercise authority over men in the church]. 36 What! Did the word of the Lord originate with you [Corinthians], or has it reached only you? 37 If anyone thinks and claims that he is a prophet [filled with and governed by the Holy Spirit of God and inspired to interpret the divine will and purpose in preaching or teaching] or has any other spiritual endowment, let him understand (recognize and acknowledge) ***What what I am writing to you is a command of the Lord***. 38 But if anyone disregards or does not recognize [ that it is a command of the Lord], he is disregarded and not recognized [he is one whom God knows not]. 1 Corinthians 14:33-38 (AMPLIFIED ,BIBLE) Thus if any insist on disregarding the Lord's command for a woman's silence they have become "One whom God knows not" Which is a most undignified and ungodly position any man or woman could possibly find themselves. For even St. Paul's instruction makes it quite plain that women are forbidden to teach men and must not usurp their God given authority. "11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression" 1 Timothy 2:10-14 (KJV)

@Gailsjournal

2 жыл бұрын

Re covering the head. If u read closely it says her hair is a covering. I don’t say I get it but it’s there.

@earnestlycontendingforthef5332

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gailsjournal Corinthians 11:6 is the key verse. If a woman has no covering while assembling or praying then her hair should be cut off. So hair and the the covering cannot be the same thing. Indeed, this is proven by the man not to have a 'covering' on his head when praying to God. If the hair was the 'covering' then he would have to cut off his hair each time before prayers, or of course, be bald....

where does the Bible teach that leadership, in the Church should be like the family.....and in the family one is to submit, to the other.....hmmm.....

Genesis 5:2….God called THEIR name Adam. Interesting!! That would seem like a He! But it is a “ their”…. One flesh.

Let God be ture and every men a Liar

Yikes.

this one seems embarrassed, by the text......and seems to try to teach, what the text is not teaching...

@genchurchaz

2 жыл бұрын

I'd suggest watching more than one sermon before making character assessments.

You ladies please bear in mind, on your coming Judgment Day you will be judged on your willingness and obedience to the Divinely endorsed Scripture teachings and instructions that follow. Now, regarding the false teaching for the emancipation of women in the Christian fraternity. Such 21st-century contrived beliefs are in contravention and defiance of the Lord's command for women to remain silent in the church assemblies. "As [is the practice] in all the churches of the saints (God's people), 34 The women should keep quiet in the churches, for they are not authorized to speak, but should take a secondary and subordinate place, just as the Law also says. 35 But if there is anything they want to learn, they should ask their own husbands at home, for it is disgraceful for a woman to talk in church [ for her to usurp and exercise authority over men in the church]. 36 What! Did the word of the Lord originate with you [Corinthians], or has it reached only you? 37 If anyone thinks and claims that he is a prophet [filled with and governed by the Holy Spirit of God and inspired to interpret the divine will and purpose in preaching or teaching] or has any other spiritual endowment, let him understand (recognize and acknowledge) ***What what I am writing to you is a command of the Lord***. 38 But if anyone disregards or does not recognize [ that it is a command of the Lord], he is disregarded and not recognized [he is one whom God knows not]. 1 Corinthians 14:33-38 (AMPLIFIED ,BIBLE) Thus if any insist on disregarding the Lord's command for a woman's silence they have become "One whom God knows not" Which is a most undignified and ungodly position any man or woman could possibly find themselves. For even St. Paul's instruction makes it quite plain that women are forbidden to teach men and must not usurp their God given authority. "11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression" 1 Timothy 2:10-14 (KJV)

KJV: "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence." The Bible is very clear on this topic, but the modern church of today will kowtow and bend as not to offend. There is one position, the Bible position. After that, its do as you feel just keep both hands on the wheel. You can't have it both ways just to appease.

@genchurchaz

2 жыл бұрын

You must be new here.

@paskettle

2 жыл бұрын

@@genchurchaz No, I'm not new to church and church life but the modern church of today is intentionally failing to preach the Word. The modern world needs the truth of Gods word, not platitudes and appeasement. It's a design to preach the whole truth and stick it out.

This guy is apologetic about God's Word. I am not. How can a woman have the office of a Pastor when she must be "the husband of one wife"?

@genchurchaz

2 жыл бұрын

"Apologetic about God's Word"?? You should watch more than one video before making claims.

@fuzfire

Жыл бұрын

@@genchurchaz oh I think I've seen and heard enough. A woman pastor is the best way to lead a church into wokeness or kill it! Sad thing is, its men who are not strong enough in God's Word to stand on the authority God has given them that is driving this movement. God's Word tell us to go back to the old paths, while we ate trying to make our own paths!

@bikerboy9010

Жыл бұрын

It's definitely not sexist to be against women pastors. I don't think people that are against women pastors are sexist. I believe in the premise that men and women should be treated fairly, shouldn't be wrongfully discriminated against, etc, but at the same time, men and women are different, and sometimes the differences between men and women need to be taken into consideration in some circumstances, and people that are against women pastors tend to believe in the premise that men and women should be treated fairly, but at the same time, men and women are different from one another, and the differences between men and women need to be taken into consideration in some circumstances. For example, Men bathrooms, Women bathrooms, Men's Retreat events at churches, Women's Retreat events at churches, Men's Softball, Women's Softball, etc are not sexist. I learned in church how the phrase "husband of one wife" isn't meant to be taken literally. I learned in church how the Greek word for "husband of one wife" means one woman man, someone who doesn't struggle with adultery, someone who's not a player, someone who's not a womanizer, etc. If "husband of one wife" is taken literally, that would mean single people can't be pastors since a single person can't be a husband, but the Greek word for "husband of one wife" means someone who doesn't struggle with adultery, and Paul, Timothy, and Titus were never married, and they were pastors of churches, and God approved of them being pastors of churches. The evidence of "husband of one wife" meaning someone who doesn't struggle with adultery and the evidence of God approving of single people such as Paul, Timothy, and Titus being pastors is strong evidence how it's not a sin for single people to be pastors and how "husband of one wife" isn't meant to be taken literally. There's many Christians who believe it's a sin for women to be pastors, and there's many Christians who believe it's not a sin for women to be pastors. The reason why there's varying opinions about the women pastor issue is due to many people having a hard time understanding the context of 1 Timothy 2:12. It's very hard for many people to tell whether 1 Timothy 2:12 is a universal principle or a cultural specific principle of Paul and Timothy restricting women in Ephesus that are false teachers from teaching. 1 Timothy 2:12 says "I do not permit a woman to have spiritual authority over a man". If 1 Timothy 2:12 is a universal principle that's not culture specific, that would prove that it's a sin for women to be pastors.

I’m curious for the people that disagree with him do you guys attend a church that doesn’t allow women to speak and always wear head coverings. If not you are casting judgment in a hypocritical way

@americantrucker465

2 жыл бұрын

Head covering is the women's hair

@liveinthelightofjesus9649

2 жыл бұрын

Women long hair is the head covering.

@nanettenapoli8077

2 жыл бұрын

The covering is in addition to the hair

@liveinthelightofjesus9649

2 жыл бұрын

@@nanettenapoli8077 1 Corinthians 11:15 says, "But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering."

@walterwalls6507

2 жыл бұрын

@@americantrucker465 dude only reads john 3:16 and that's it, give him a break. He gets his beliefs from radical feminists (who essentially hates God, a male figure)

This is why you need to know the Word for yourself. Paul teaches Timothy and Titus how the order of the church leadership should be. The qualifications for pastor, elder, overseer and bishop which is the same office but different functions of the office , are interchangeable with one another. The leader of the flock are to be men. PERIOD!!!!!. It's about God's order and roles of the man and woman. Equality has nothing to do with God's order. That's what's so wrong in the body of Christ. Women can do and have done great work in the body of Christ. But Satan the great deceiver and liar will always say the opposite of what God says. No disrespect but this pastor is wrong in his teaching on this biblical subject matter. God's Word is the same yesterday, today and forevermore. Scripture tells us that the woman was made for the man. Not the man for the woman. Equal to one another, but designed for different roles or functions. There were never women priest. All the Apostles chosen by Jesus were men. God's order will never change. It's the false teachers that always do the changing. Know the truth. It will make you free. Much love and God's blessings. Brother Vinnie from New Jersey.

@ermiasdana4862

2 жыл бұрын

Stay blessed!

Bro your causing confusion with your confuse interpretation. 👎

God made man first because he didnt want an opinion on how to do things

@michaele.ebright8834

2 жыл бұрын

😉😥😊

@michaele.ebright8834

2 жыл бұрын

Gods way is right and perfect

Women pastors……I wonder if the men in those churches take care of the babies in the nursery? 😂

@walterwalls6507

2 жыл бұрын

Nope strangers who probably are closeted atheist or some cult believer get paid to watch them

@genchurchaz

2 жыл бұрын

Nope. Godly people who volunteer to create an environment that is safe and fun for kids so their parents can focus on God in their church service.

@walterwalls6507

2 жыл бұрын

@@genchurchaz distract, dumb down the kids and install the public institution "all inclusive" agenda while the parents get the meat of knowledge, already brainwashed ever since they themselves were kids...Nice

@earnestlycontendingforthef5332

2 жыл бұрын

@@genchurchaz You should be warning your ladies to bear in mind, that on their coming Judgment Day they will be judged on their willingness and obedience to the Divinely endorsed Scripture teachings and instructions that follow. Now, regarding the false teaching for the emancipation of women in the Christian fraternity. Such 21st-century contrived beliefs are in contravention and defiance of the Lord's command for women to remain silent in the church assemblies. "As [is the practice] in all the churches of the saints (God's people), 34 The women should keep quiet in the churches, for they are not authorized to speak, but should take a secondary and subordinate place, just as the Law also says. 35 But if there is anything they want to learn, they should ask their own husbands at home, for it is disgraceful for a woman to talk in church [ for her to usurp and exercise authority over men in the church]. 36 What! Did the word of the Lord originate with you [Corinthians], or has it reached only you? 37 If anyone thinks and claims that he is a prophet [filled with and governed by the Holy Spirit of God and inspired to interpret the divine will and purpose in preaching or teaching] or has any other spiritual endowment, let him understand (recognize and acknowledge) ***What what I am writing to you is a command of the Lord***. 38 But if anyone disregards or does not recognize [ that it is a command of the Lord], he is disregarded and not recognized [he is one whom God knows not]. 1 Corinthians 14:33-38 (AMPLIFIED ,BIBLE) Thus if any insist on disregarding the Lord's command for a woman's silence they have become "One whom God knows not" Which is a most undignified and ungodly position any man or woman could possibly find themselves. For even St. Paul's instruction makes it quite plain that women are forbidden to teach men and must not usurp their God given authority. "11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression" 1 Timothy 2:10-14 (KJV)

@yvettelordschild6616

2 жыл бұрын

as someone who has gone through the school of the Holy Spirit meaning someone who has been going through spiritual warfare with actual Demons attacking me in my sleep for 17 years of my walk with Christ i've learned that they're not attacking me so much is there attacking what God is doing in me and if God is doing something great in me, that means I'm a threat to the kingdom of darkness. how can I not be called to something more than just raising children and baking! How do I honor my God and father by staying silent and knowing my place (so to speak) when my heavenly father has gone through so much trouble to teach and guide me in his ways through spiritual warfare to prepare me for works of service And how can I serve if I'm told I can't because I'm a woman and not a man.

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