calling ur bf ugly is CRAZY 😭

@twothousandandchew

3 ай бұрын

literally..

@amberevol

3 ай бұрын

INSANE

@amberevol

3 ай бұрын

ppl need to realize that no matter what their man looks like, NOT EVERYONE WANTS HIM 😂 date someone you're really attracted to and work on your self esteem bc an ugly man won't make that any easier I promise

@Peachetteshowtime

3 ай бұрын

@amberevol tbf, you can think someone is ugly but still appreciate someone for their heart and personality, but if you value attractiveness a lot, you probably shouldn’t date someone ugly

@renflower1910

3 ай бұрын

@@PeachetteshowtimePeople don’t usually date someone who they think is ugly. You have to be attracted to your partner.

I will forever laugh at people who are on tiktok saying beauty standards are killing us and promoting a mindset of “we are all beautiful” but then go around calling others “medium ugly” and just openly calling those you don’t don’t find subjectively attractive “uglies”. It makes no sense. At this point, everyone is a hypocrite.

@Starburst514

3 ай бұрын

Especially when they're examples are guys that (at least to me) are actually pretty handsome, they're just not they're type so they're called ugly for such miniscule things 😭😂

@chickensalad3535

3 ай бұрын

The truth is that not everyone is beautiful, and that’s okay.

@Mtv20O1

3 ай бұрын

@@chickensalad3535 I do agree with this and as someone who is not conventionally attractive, I believe in this 100%. However, I don’t think it’s right to be calling someone ugly publicly online for the entire world to see. You should keep it yourself. Even if you don’t think they are hot (by your standards), why would you publicaly express that?? It makes no sense. All these influencers be promoting acceptance but then hypocritically call certain celebrities “medium ugly.” Beauty is subjective. Not everyone is “hot” but that doesn’t mean you need to come for them.

@peachesandpoets

3 ай бұрын

Gen Z not knowing people like Mick Jagger existed. Nothing is new under the sun. Gen Z didn't introduce unconventional handsomeness 😂 Get over yourselves

@Starburst514

3 ай бұрын

@@peachesandpoets No is saying they did, it's just that for a while a lot of people's definition of "unconventional" is really just "not really my type, so medium ugly"

5’8 being called a “short king” is actually crazy

@EyelessAugust

2 ай бұрын

It’s like the word average has been erased from the dictionary

@zonuphaon

2 ай бұрын

@@EyelessAugust Women everywhere think they are 8+ and hat an average male is a 2 at best. Hard reset needed.

@dg321_

2 ай бұрын

@@EyelessAugustyou are either tall enough to date or you aren’t. they never think about what average height is.

@fanban2926

2 ай бұрын

@@dg321_Most people do date so I don't see how that makes any sense

@qjtvaddict

2 ай бұрын

In Sudan that would be accurate in USA WTF

people online will say "I like medium ugly men" and then give an example of a literal 6'3 professional actor and model y'all need to go outside

@redahlia

Ай бұрын

fr😭😭 i sometimes think that i live in my own world outside those people living in. i started to think they all are just chronically online

@trigcat3107

Ай бұрын

LMAO

@FootPauler

Ай бұрын

Something I’ve learned over the last few years is online and real life are 2 completely different worlds. What people “claim” to want online, is not actually what people go after in person for both men and women

@grayson7844

Ай бұрын

LMAO

@LikeaBixitto

Ай бұрын

THIS

Are we allergic to the word “average” now? Why can’t people say “average”? It isn’t that hard to say average?

@zucchinigreen

2 ай бұрын

What's average when everyone has a beauty filter and access to enhancements?

@doorsfan173

2 ай бұрын

Incentives changed. It's an attention economy, nothing can be banal, average, everyday. It has to be the best, or worst, with no in between. Obviously, for normal people that aren't overly online, that isn't the case. There are people whose personal business interests depend on constant engagement (be they influencers making youtube videos in a hobby space, politics, etc). This is also why boring, everyday events in the news immediately have people claiming some elaborate conspiracy behind it.

@manichispanic5234

2 ай бұрын

I just deleted my comment because it was basically this. People criticizing don't realize how average they are.... Delusional, people nowadays for straight up delusional.

@minacarroll3734

2 ай бұрын

Mid mid mid

@frenchgirl5878

2 ай бұрын

Because of beauty overstimulation, we see so many extremely rare beauties on a daily basis that now average is considered ugly. Welcome to reality.

Calling 5'8 as short king is the equivalent of calling Margot Robbie 'Mid'.

@srizangupta1957

3 ай бұрын

@spicy1pastry yup. 5'7 is the worldwide average height. I am 5'10 and taller then so many men irl.It's the redpill eqivalent of calling 25 year old women old.

@TiktokBro154

3 ай бұрын

lol true

@INTPJay6120

3 ай бұрын

I agree!

@Moonsoupstein

3 ай бұрын

@@srizangupta1957 it pisses me off when people who are 5'7 or above call themselves short kings, this beauty standard is so stupid

@sammierose1150

3 ай бұрын

@@srizangupta1957 while I 100% agree with your statement, for my family personally, we are very much above the norm seeing as my mother is 5’10”, my father is 6’2”, I am 6’0” (female human/biological woman), and my brother is 6’4”. but then again we are mixed with some of the tallest populations in the world: literal Vikings from Scandinavia and Maasai Kenyans. 🌍💛💚💙

If I had a gf that called me “medium ugly” it would destroy any self confidence I had in myself, ugly is such a cruel word to say to another person especially your own partner

@eisleyism

12 күн бұрын

lol I would laugh

@Xanaduum

12 күн бұрын

If it wasn't said ironically, I'd consider the relationship.

As a guy, I think “medium ugly”and “unconventional beauty” are ruining beauty standards, Timothee chalamet isn’t unconventional he looks like a model. Jeremy Allen white is in amazing shape, has clear skin, good hair, and is not “medium” or “ugly”. I could talk about it for hours, but essentially you’re just calling attractive people ugly, and further perpetuating unreasonable and unrealistic beauty standards.

@LilyIglesias

2 ай бұрын

I agree with you. Timothee is gorgeous (the other guys on the thumbnail are not) how can ppl say he's "medium ugly"?

@littleleah310

2 ай бұрын

Lol shut up

@LilyIglesias

2 ай бұрын

@@ryenm91 yes, that's what am talking about, sorry. The other guys are not my type, but Timmy is. But of course there's other ppl who could find them attractive.

@ryenm91

2 ай бұрын

@@LilyIglesias as long as you can recognize that

@thabokgwele5268

2 ай бұрын

I wanted to say this too. Timothee's beauty is as conventional as it gets. The only unconventional thing is his masculinity.

I think people are being overly cruel about other's looks, truly a 2000s culture renaissance.

@CaulkMongler

2 ай бұрын

The rebirth of the tabloids era but we crowdsource the gossip.

@myas.6485

2 ай бұрын

This. People are so damn cruel. On various scales, at that.

@ville__

2 ай бұрын

Btw mady is friends with a pdf 🤐

@L1z4ard

2 ай бұрын

@@ville__ I don't think she's friends with you, bro

@myst6256

2 ай бұрын

Sory, i dont know too much about 2000s culture. How it was? Can you explain it to me briefly?

Why can't people just accept that everyone has their own taste

@jayeimas5304

3 ай бұрын

because human beings constantly crave approval

@ville__

3 ай бұрын

meanwhile madisyn is friends with Miranda sings...

@missstranger7697

3 ай бұрын

​@@jayeimas5304Yes they seek outside validation.

@thatoldcrow

3 ай бұрын

this right here.

@thatoldcrow

3 ай бұрын

@@ville__what no way😭

If Timothy is considered medium ugly then it's just over for us

@adalheidisofadamahcaptaino18

2 ай бұрын

Thinking the few hundred women on TikTok represent the 4 billion women on earth... it is already over for you.

@monkiplatts9224

2 ай бұрын

@@adalheidisofadamahcaptaino18 it's ogre

@HenriCobbs

Ай бұрын

there's no way, you believe some people on tiktok is everyone. Stop being stupid, please?

@CheAnn-jd5yg

4 күн бұрын

Yes

Lmao 5'8" is a short king? It's over for us.

@dannyarcher9002

2 ай бұрын

Never began with these kweens

@Linneom

Ай бұрын

It’s not lol, come on bub there’s dude’s out here without any legs getting girls.

@katc2040

23 күн бұрын

5'8 is not short 😂 these are girls who are like 5'4 complaining about guys not towering over them im 5'7 idc

@noforexaggerate

21 күн бұрын

Well……. It is only over when you think it is. And I’m not trying to gaslight you but you know….trying and fail is better than not trying at all.

Normalize recognizing that people are not your type and that that doesn't make them ugly!!

@sentiment201

2 ай бұрын

the irony is host calls others ugly, if I'm like this person I may not talk about other's beauty

@stolenrelic

2 ай бұрын

Preach! He might not my your 10/10, but he's my 10/10, and that's what matters.

@notaspeck6104

2 ай бұрын

This. Beauty is genuinely subjective. There might be a societally popular set of conventions, but not everyone has to care about them.

@dickottel

2 ай бұрын

every hot celeb looks ugly for some people in the world. no one is ugly and everyone is ugly (to somebody).

@teamojesusss

2 ай бұрын

Agree

... didn't Timothee Chalamet just grow up? Like, he's in his late twenties now, that's just what happens when you grow into your adult body

@bonne_vie

3 ай бұрын

Yes, let's normalize aging please.

@Gfriend_Buddy99

2 ай бұрын

I remember someone joke that Leo won't date him because he's older than 25.... He really has a baby face

@saymyname2417

2 ай бұрын

Getting older is one thing. But what people seem to be completely oblivious about is that all you see of Chalamet is an image, nothing more. You know nothing of him. Who says he really is that ethereal, both physically and mentally?!

@jamiew.6606

2 ай бұрын

And what's wild is I would still think the guy is 21-22 lol. He still looks really youthful, almost looks like one of my brother's friends that is 21.

@hannahlanai

2 ай бұрын

yup. it's like people expect him to look like a teenager forever.

I'm a 39 year old Millenial, so whenever I hear Zoomers say that Timothee Chalamet is "unconvertionally attractive" I scratch my head, because white "pretty boys" like him have been hugely popular since the days of 80s and 90s teens movies and pop groups (e.g. New Kids On The Block, Backstreet Boys, NSync, etc). The boy bands also were non-maschismo, usually singing songs about their feelings and how well they were going to treat their partner. He's a handsome, white, rich, successful actor... Nothing unconventional about that combination.

@earth222scarlett

Ай бұрын

yeah, hes just an all around bad example, hes a rich, fluffy haired, chiseled white boy who speaks french ffs, like wdym he's "medium ugly"?

Adam Driver being medium ugly is hilarious. Brohers like 6'3, shredded, deep voice, big hands(that people have pages dedicated to) and great hair. Yes his face is slightly goofy but he has 95% of whats needed. Most people are lucky to have 2 of the things he has.

@laddrusso5243

2 ай бұрын

He's face is so long

@wandaruth3833

Ай бұрын

He literally looks like a young gothic Harrison Ford with a little Keanu Reeves thrown in. HAWT. Enough to make me wanna turn to the Dark Side 😈

@jacobcumberbatch1774

Ай бұрын

That’s that women’s opinion tho , beauty is subjective

@DiegoBuitrago-om2zo

Ай бұрын

@@jacobcumberbatch1774 beauty is not subjective

@jacobcumberbatch1774

Ай бұрын

@@DiegoBuitrago-om2zo it clearly is but I get the point that. A majority of people like a certain so therefore it would be more objective .

“medium ugly” is a phrase that only tiktok could create….seriously lmao that is WILD

So "medium ugly" just means unique faces now? Have we been brainwashed by the Faceapp filters already?

@varuniscoming

2 ай бұрын

I'm also Medium Ugly then

@tomaccino

Ай бұрын

Glad I'm old fashioned and living under a rock. When everyone is being wrecked by the social media, I still keep my 90s mentality intact.

@Captain_Insano_nomercy

12 күн бұрын

​@@tomaccinosame!

5'8" is not short and this whole mindset is toxic. Y'all just don't know what you want and let social media decide for you.

@cattrickie

15 күн бұрын

bruh is that the only thing u took from the video. im a guy and im 5'5 and literally nobody in my life cares

@xSavedSoulx

15 күн бұрын

@@cattrickie It's in response to those who think this way.

@cattrickie

14 күн бұрын

@@xSavedSoulx oh sorry

Anytime I hear about “beauty standards are changing…” I feel like those people live in a vacuum, beauty standards are not changing, trends are.

I feel like women calling guys “medium-ugly” FEELS like the equivalent of alpha males talking about “high quality” women :/ idk how to exactly describe it lol

@evangelinecharmeine9700

2 ай бұрын

I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU LIKE SERIOUSLY IT'S EMBARRASSING

@chimpwimp9407

2 ай бұрын

Like when they called Margot Robbie mid?

@mattkriese7170

2 ай бұрын

What’s wrong with saying you like high quality women? - Not an alpha, but I’ve always used this as a compliment to women whom I hold in high regard. Usually, women I find beautiful, fun, and whom are well educated. They have class. I don’t think “high quality” = “medium ugly” in the slightest.

@vuldrin764

2 ай бұрын

​@@mattkriese7170 "high quality" and "medium ugly" are not equal in meaning but moreso in the vibe of the 2 statements. Like, both statements are unnecessary comments that come from a place of superiority and are inherently judgmental. The alpha male decides that he can decide what defines a "high value woman" and then spreads that judgement outwards; if there are high value women, it implies that he has decided who "low value women" would be which is kind of a weird thing to say/decide. It's judgmental and disrespectful because of the intent, what it implies, and also gives you insight into the character of the person making the statement, that being that they are willing to be outwardly judgmental and rude to people who are probably just living their lives. It also gives you insight into the person's values and what they expect, that being perfection, purity, aesthetics, etc. While "high value women" would, in some people's mind, be a positive statement that is most likely being said with good intentions, perhaps as a compliment. Its also just kind of a weird disrespectful thing to say, because you cast judgement on the value of someone as a person based on factors that you personally value. You are grading someone based on your own personal rubric, which is kind of not a great idea because that's a person with their own thoughts, values, beliefs, etc, and not a homework assignment. In this way both statements achieve the same thing. When people say "medium ugly" they are casting judgement and grading people based on personal standards that are not objective truths, its a casting of judgement in a more directly rude way than calling someone "high value". I guess a good way to think of it is that calling someone "high value" is deciding a person is an A+ and calling someone "medium ugly" is like grading a person D+. the issue isn't, "why are you grading that person low? that's mean." the issue is, "why are you grading people at all?". P.s. i use "you" alot, but im not directly referring to you specifically in any way, its more of a general term.

@chromberries7329

2 ай бұрын

​@@mattkriese7170it's the whore-madonna issue. Men who think like you usually only think of women in two extremes: she's either a Madonna (aka a "high quality woman") or she's a whore not worth your attention. She doesn't even have to be a whore in the literal sense, but that you'd only see her for what you can get from her physically...

I think for me I don't have a standard version of ugly. What I find attractive may be ugly for other people.

@megchippendale529

3 ай бұрын

Exactly

@LotusesGalaxyOcean

3 ай бұрын

This is very true. Everyone has a slightly different preferred aesthetic and specific features that just are not as much of a priority.

@ville__

3 ай бұрын

meanwhile madisyn is friends with Miranda sings...

@naomivought9317

3 ай бұрын

Yep. I’ve liked societally attractive people and people others didn’t think were attractive. When you like someone that’s all that matters, if YOU think they’re beautiful.

@ville__

3 ай бұрын

@@LotusesGalaxyOcean she's friends with Colleen btw

There's no such thing. Have you noticed all this "medium ugly" or "hot-ugly" guys all happen to be famous? It's just women adapting their threshold because of the status. If Adam Driver was an average dude working on a gas station, no one would think he's medium ugly; just ugly.

@jocosesonata

2 ай бұрын

Yep, pretty much. Sad, but that's just how things are. Can't do anything about it, except deal with it and move on. No point fighting back. It's not a winnable battle.

@ysy_y

2 ай бұрын

That’s how pop culture works, unfortunately. People get conditioned into believing they like something they otherwise wouldn’t have.

A man with the arms of a baby deer would absolutely be able to hurt you.

@SwedishMeatball972

2 ай бұрын

From fkn experience!

@nananyantakyi1549

2 ай бұрын

Let her stay in her delusion

@AFellowCyberman

Ай бұрын

A skinny man is still a man lol. I've seen scrawny dudes beat tf out of big guys in street fights.

@redahlia

Ай бұрын

and they do.

@bean1sprout

8 күн бұрын

more likely to in fact

The whole “ugly guy gets a hot girl and treats her bad” reminds me so much of Big Ed from 90 day fiancée. Like he’s not good looking at all, yet when he gets with Liz who’s cute then all of a sudden cheats on her multiple times. Disgusting🤢

@butterflymage5623

3 ай бұрын

I mean, being hotter than the other person doesn’t stop cheating.

@SL-vw7ix

3 ай бұрын

@@butterflymage5623Pretty ppl are treated as superior tho it’s a how dare you moment

@GoddesssofMind

3 ай бұрын

They do it bc they want to humble the more attractive person.

@megchippendale529

3 ай бұрын

Isn’t it statistically proven ugly guys cheat more, something to do with issues with not getting woman lust over them over them or something like that or who boost. Either way dating someone ugly apparently means a higher chance of them cheating 🤔

@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986

3 ай бұрын

@@megchippendale529who tf made up that statistic?😂 A bitter incel woman who called her ex ‘ugly’ after he’d already cheated and broke her heart. just like a miserable bitter man when a woman leaves him

Look, say what you want about Jeremy Allen White attractive-wise, but I've never understood why people categorize him as ugly because in my eyes, he looks like those Greek male statues. His face has the same proportions as a lot of men depicted in Greek art, body along with that. The nose, chin, forehead and curly hair combo, the chiseled body.... he looks like Michelangelo's statue of David

@lena3339

3 ай бұрын

RIGHT. ive been saying this for so long omggg

@maryconnor6173

3 ай бұрын

No chin to speak of

@jin394

2 ай бұрын

Really shows how beauty standards change over time. I didn't know who he was before this but I think you're right, and that's absolutely crazy he's getting called ugly.

@pauuuulina

2 ай бұрын

I think I don’t like him because he is too white idk I’m Mexican he’s been dating Rosalia and my friends called me crazy for saying I considered rauw Alejandro (Rosalia’s ex) more attractive

@aspecificafricanyamdish5271

2 ай бұрын

It’s okay to be delusional

If you ask a woman what a dad bod is, they're not going to show you a guy with a beer belly...

@tofoo1

Ай бұрын

Theyre gonna show u a jacked guy on a bulk 😂

@themockalove

2 күн бұрын

I swear to God, Jason momoa was called a dad bod when he's not filming. JASON MOMOA

I feel like Leonardo DiCaprio had this same effect when he became big. Soft, romantic , lover lead. Same with River Phoenix too but he sadly passed away before he could reach his full potential in the industry.

I have participated in calling men ugly I won’t lie! Buttttt I keep that shit to myself. Why would I go onto the internet and openly call ppl ugly? I feel genuinely bad for them. It is not ok to call strangers ugly unprovoked. Edit: this applies to calling ppl medium ugly or surprisingly attractive. I understand the sentiment and have liked comments like these before but if you think abt it would you want to be called that?

@janus6349

3 ай бұрын

Right? So many things are okay to say to your friends in private but not online for anyone to see, especially the people you're talking about

@user-gg3os5dj5g

3 ай бұрын

For real I would not be calling people that not even online. They are real people. I mostly think it’s better when the celebrity responds to that person so then they feel embarrassed for doing that.

@Joannachin

3 ай бұрын

What if a real person who looks like those celebrities people are calling ugly sees it? Its mean and unpolite to put other people down

@GH-fb9dh

3 ай бұрын

I mean, not medium ugly but I would like to be called surprisingly attractive 😂 better than nothing

@Nikki-lh1tu

3 ай бұрын

Real 💯

Every time someone brings up 'dating a slightly uglier guy so he'll definitely be loyal', I think about Jay-Z and Beyonce and I know that shit isn't true IN THE LEAST.

@t-bonetyrone

2 ай бұрын

Real. That's just because he's JAY FUCKING Z, and can basically use his copious amount of clout and money to successfully cheat and Beyonce quite literally can't do that much better than him outside of his looks.

@Concretesatanic

2 ай бұрын

Jay Z is a multi millionaire who owns a record label I think you people forget that

@Africangoddess97

2 ай бұрын

Facts

@zucchinigreen

2 ай бұрын

Lots of "ugly" guys take out their frustrations on their partners who are of their league as a form of control. And THAT is really ugly. Insert Janet Jackson and practically all her partners.

@iangke

2 ай бұрын

Jay z is a billionaire, hope this helps!

This is all just so exhausting. Being a 5'6 bald guy hasnt granted me alot (almost none) appreciation from women. Im not bad looking (ive heard i have a good looking face, nice eyes since theyre different colors), but ive had to "compensate" by going to the gym, pumping up, cutting calories to the point of starving myself and so on. I was always a gentlemen and have interests like playing music, cooking etc. But i was never "badass" enough. And now this?? dont get me wrong, im happy short kings and "half ugly" dudes are getting their time in the sun... but Jesus Christ why cant people (Women AND Men) just like what they like instead of going off of what social media and trends tell them is hot or not? My own friends never understood why the girlfriends ive had or even the girls ive been interested in are beautiful to me. I like pretty girls, sure, but i find them the prettiest when they have SOMETHING that makes them imperfect. My ex had a bit crooked teeth, another was a bit buck toothed, one had big ears, another had a little extra fat and so on... imperfection makes beautiful

@xcitebyte

2 ай бұрын

I miss the days when accepting another person's physical flaws and learning more about who they are as a person was normalized. I always accepted people for who they are and never have been the type to focus on someone's perceived physical flaws. Actually, sometimes it would be the very thing that makes that person attractive or intriguing. Furthermore, that's probably why I've always loved women so much because I can find beauty in them all. I focus more on the things that make someone beautiful rather than their flaws. People are so shallow and judgmental nowadays even irl. I've withdrawn from society, focusing on my craft and my girlfriend I met in Dominican Republic 4 years ago who I wish to get married to very soon. I don't want to have anything to do with all this toxicity that has been going around. It's sad and pathetic.

@ysy_y

2 ай бұрын

@@xcitebyteIt’s a great thing to have the perspective you have. I’m sure many appreciate the gift your presence brings

@mba321

2 ай бұрын

@@xcitebyte People have always been critical of others' physical flaws. It's just that people in the past didn't have social media shoving it in everyone's face 24/7, so it only *seems* worse now.

@oonmm

28 күн бұрын

I also love cooking food, and playing music. I spent ~$3.000 on my sound system and it can play FLAC files with pretty much 100% accuracy to how it sounded when it was recorded. You can nearly feel the texture in the air. I play music on them even when I sleep, but opt for more minimalistic tracks in those hours. Women can't appreciate this.

@Samson16436

18 күн бұрын

​@@oonmmas a woman with audio engineer background I def appreciate it

*Remember when dating sites showed that women found 80% of men to be unattractive*

I’ll never understand why some women are so NASTY to their friends’ boyfriends. “you could do better”, “why do all the pretty girls go for the ugly ones” “he’s not that cute” like excuse you???☠️I didnt know yall were sharing🧐

@eddyalonsomoramorales6069

2 ай бұрын

I only feel bad for their bf gf How little caracter you need to have to let your friends treat your bf gf like that

@goddammitranka

2 ай бұрын

Pickme

@Sylvia-hu1sx

2 ай бұрын

I feel like women who do that to you or fans of celeb women who say that about their favs bf just want to fuck them. Cause unless thwor behaviour I'd wrowithib their character, what does that got to do with me???

@annabeinglazy5580

2 ай бұрын

Honestly that Sounds Like horrible Friends. Like unless the Guy is also Just a Bad Person, what does attractiveness have to do with it? Maybe the guy has super cool vibes, maybe they share a Hobby, maybe Hes really good in bed, maybe He Just knows how to treat them right. Maybe Theres a very specific Thing they do that you find sexy. Hell, i was falling for my Partner by the time He washed Up the dishes during our second Date. Because He was sweet, He was settling in comfortably in my space, He Made me feel super comfortable. Reducing your Friends Partner to how they Look on paper is just the shallowest Take you can have to me and tells me you dont actually know much about the Relationship.

@northstar2621

2 ай бұрын

I had a friend like that. We are not in contact anymore. The weird thing is that she seemed like a genuinely a very sweet person who obviously didn't do it with a bad intention, though looking back I have to seriously doubt that. I had known her for years (8 years) and she was always very kind to me. She also liked my ex as a person and they were friends. She just genuinely thought it was okay to tell me I could get so much better. It was mind blowing. It was also funny because I have androgenetic alopecia and don't even have any hair, so like for many men of any looks I am wayyy under their standard and it was funny that she was implying I was apparently so much above him and could get "so much better". But it still hurt me so much. Maybe it was a cultural thing to speak one's mind and speak out opinions like that, idk, we come from different cultures. I was also a virgin at the time of meeting my ex and then later she was like "Oh I wanted to get you a good man back from my village in Azerbaijan but now I can't anymore because you're not a virgin", like wait WOAH.

Commenting to up the awareness that some girls genuinely find “medium ugly” men hot. It’s so weird having to justify to your friends why you’re with someone they deem is beneath you.

@samaraisnt

2 ай бұрын

yeah saying it’s a cope is so insane to me? like timothee isn’t ugly we just don’t like himbos 😭 they all have weird extra medium ugly faces but no one talks about that??? obvi everyone’s eyes are different i thought we learned this in grade-school lol.

@gailainsley6939

2 ай бұрын

I agree. I personally don’t understand when there is a super focus on looks. I am more into other qualities.

@BoringTroublemaker

2 ай бұрын

It’s wild to me that you need to call your partner “ugly” to your friends by saying “I’m just attracted to medium ugly guys” which is incredibly insulting, rather than just saying “my partner is attractive to ME - f*** what the rest of you think”

@h3llboyyy407

2 ай бұрын

exactly , I find "medium ugly" women more attractive than "bad" bishes

@Jout8-re1ij

2 ай бұрын

@@BoringTroublemaker These kind of people exist, when society has bred them and accepted certain women to say or gossip about some guys being ugly and thats why they still exist. If simps just didnt accept them that way. They propably wouldnt exist at all then.

Absolute banger of a video Madisyn, and my favorite one yet! You touched on this from just about every conceivable angle, including the ego aspect. That's what it all boils down to really, people comparing themselves to others to lift themselves up/put others down. If you want to see someone's character, pay attention to who/what they consider ugly and how they talk about them. Ultimately we do need to abolish these oppressive beauty standards for everyone's mental health, but change starts at home. "Ugly" people deserve more than just romance, but respect and compassion too.

0:28 short kings saying it's at 5'8 are u fking serious. The male AVERAGE height world wide is 5 fking 7 women. Being at 5'10 really makes it feel that im almost considered short. You all do realize the AVG height was alot shorter, not too many decades ago. Acting like the freakishly tall 6'4 to 6'6 is somehow normal when its a tiny % of men.

@pingeee

2 ай бұрын

dude its actually insane before the craze was all about 6' guys now i see women saying they wont settle for a guy whos not at least 6'4-6'5

@tazzy4624

2 ай бұрын

Your definitely 5ft 7 and triggered lol but if calling 5ft7 men short kings bodyshaming and ridiculous which it is then so is calling men 6ft 4 and 6ft 6 freakishly tall body shaming as well. That's just a way for you to feel better about self because your not considered tall as a man.

@pingeee

2 ай бұрын

@@tazzy4624 said a whole lotta nothing 🔥🔥

@JohnDoe-pc3uk

Ай бұрын

@@tazzy4624 Depends on what's behind it. Calling a dude short in this context has the idea behind of it of "you are unappealing in a romantic light to the vast majority of women". Calling a dude freakishly tall in this context means "you are tall enough to be above the norm". Not really associated with as much negativity

@JohnDoe-pc3uk

Ай бұрын

Saw a girl saying she was into taller men. Asked her what she considered a tall man and she goes "Hmm, at least 6'1". Which is wild to me considering that she was 5'0.

honestly i feel like the internet serves as an incubating echo-chamber that gives people nerve and provides the basis of commonality to antisocial ways of thinking. that is to say: it gives people the nerve & they forget how the real world works.

@amethystdream8251

3 ай бұрын

True, and the real world has also been in a lot of decay. There's definitely an element of escapism/avoidance going on

@BroJo676

3 ай бұрын

Thank you for coming with the truth.

@thatoldcrow

3 ай бұрын

beautifully fucking said

@unknown-ix7md

2 ай бұрын

well articulated, i adore your way of wording things ! it is as if for some individuals the fact that they are interacting with living, breathing humans and not words on a screen dissipates. the incubating echo chamber which you mentioned only narrows and further warps peoples minds, creating more of an in group and out group mentality amognst them, and given the emotionally charged nature and lack of nuance in online discourse, breeds more hostility to anyone seen as part of the out group (outside that echo chamber).

The thing about the "dadbod" is that it is about not having visible muscles, not necessarily that you're not muscular. I've seen people say that both Jason Momoa & Jack Black have "dadbods" despite having drastically different body types. Hell even Travis Kelce (a professional athlete) got body shamed for having a "dadbod". We're so used to seeing dehydrated actors with visible muscles that some of us have forgotten what the average body looks like.

@cleo1827

3 ай бұрын

True! I also find society extremely hypocritical. How many women give birth and are expected to not have a “mom bod” soon after. Celebrity culture is toxic and people need to get out more lol

@naomivought9317

3 ай бұрын

Yeah having the smallest amount of body fat these days, people freak out. I don’t understand it 😂

@sammierose1150

3 ай бұрын

I personally am not attracted to the “dad bod” physique, mainly because it reminds me of my literal father and how he looks, so if the person I was romantically interested in resembled him even in the slightest, I would probably be disgusted. I personally love maintaining a healthy active lifestyle and so it’s important that my partner have the same interests and body type as me. But different strokes for different folks. People like what they like and will have different tastes and that’s ok! 💁🏽‍♀️

@TheCrogun

3 ай бұрын

​@@sammierose1150 I said Travis Kelce (a professional football player) got bodyshamed for his "dadbod" and here you're saying you want someone with a healthy active lifestyle? The point I was making is that many body types have been called "dadbods" and that we need to stop comparing regular people to what we see in the media.

@fictionlover695

2 ай бұрын

​@@naomivought9317 filters...made people look like anime on social media...when u get used to looking at certain level of (unrealistic) physical perfection...there's a beauty inflation...then anything less then that perfection is considered outright horrendous

5’7” and 5’8” is average, not short

@Lanaplayer1997

Ай бұрын

It’s short

@robertmclean1106

Ай бұрын

@@Lanaplayer1997 not really. 5’5” or 5’6” is short

@robertmclean1106

Ай бұрын

@@Lanaplayer1997 You might be borderline stupid. I said what I said. Keep thinking its short. Use Google. It's your friend. This is sad.

@jamiemohan2049

22 күн бұрын

​@@robertmclean1106not really either. I'm 5'6 and everyone my height says they are 5'8. 5'6 to 6ft is the normal range of male height. 5'9 is the halfway point of those heights, hence it is the average height. So no a short male is outside the normal range which is below 5'6. Also as a 5'6 guy there isn't even a big difference between me and a 5'10 dude, not even in pictures. Yet these very guys are the ones to call me very tiny, like mate if my eyes are at you mouth or nose I'm not that much smaller than you..

I'm very tall and all the people assume, I want or need a tall, strong man, with lots of muscles, and then they see my husband, who is a little bit smaller and not the masculine type of man. Even if this people wonder: I like the way he look! It has nothing to do with "medium ugly". He is just my type. But I know, I have a special taste. What a crazy world to call people ugly because they are not flawless. And how silly to confuse an unhealthy body with good father qualities. The question shouldn't be how much musclemass has someone, but how healthy is his lifestyle and that for other reasons.

As someone who doesn't use social media, I'm so out of the loop with the crap people obsess over.

@marusbrown1348

2 ай бұрын

A winner is you ur smart. Legit.

@dreznoryorkekeenanbuckley2226

2 ай бұрын

I try to stay away from it for the most part too... It just breeds sickness...

@rd3munna812

2 ай бұрын

It's been a month since I deleted Instagram

@marethyu31

2 ай бұрын

Genuinely good for you

@angelcake55388

2 ай бұрын

Well done 👏

There is a clip from the Dune press tour with Zendaya and Timothee, I believe they were asked about their favorite food recently/something good they ate recently and Zendaya bursts out laughing and looks at Timothee saying “We don’t eat” while they both laugh about it, like a trauma response. As someone who recovered from an ED, I can imagine how hard it would be to starve yourself to look good, and be told you’re still too fat despite it being totally out of your control (age is a common factor as our metabolism slows). Anyway, seeing that clip broke my heart, celebrities are human too. Can we please treat them like humans?? Edit: Found the video the clip is from, its the Buzz feed best friend test with Zendaya and Timothee (just type that in and it should come up) from the 1st Dune movie press tour. The clip I’m talking about starts at 41 seconds and the question is “What’s your favorite snack” for those who are wondering/want to go watch it themselves!

@samaraisnt

2 ай бұрын

omg WHAAAAT? what’s the title or who released it i’m shocked everyone isn’t talking about it o_O

@grandmasterofdemoniccock

2 ай бұрын

😟😟😟

@amorelockster1023

2 ай бұрын

Omg wtf that’s sad

@alicia_nicole

2 ай бұрын

Zendaya is so funny 😂😂😂

@blinkbubs3994

2 ай бұрын

thanks for pulling up further details for others to check out. the internet so often just becomes a game of telephone we're valuing truth of information lesss

7:53 'early onset twink death' IS CRAZYY WTF 😭😭😭

Beauty is hella subjective and it's actually MAD how many people can't warp their heads around that...

@t-bonetyrone

3 ай бұрын

Beauty is directly correlated to health, so not really.

@Madzillahx

2 ай бұрын

@@t-bonetyrone ??? But not everyone is attracted to those who are conventionally attractive tho... A lot of men and women I know actually find things that are deemed as "unhealthy" (like wrinkles, under eye bags, different body types) much more attractive than what's healthy, such as the conventional traits that you may be referring to, I myself being one of them. Don't get me wrong, a lot of people still find those conventionally attractive beautiful, however we still may prefer someone that doesn't fit that category. So while you may be correct scientifically, socially things may be different ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (Sorry if that doesn't make sense to you, i'm not the best at verbalising things 😭.)

@t-bonetyrone

2 ай бұрын

@Madzillah_ Wrinkles, eyebags, and body types other than what is conventionally attractive can be perceived as such... If most, if not all other factors are conventionally beautiful in contrast or adds to their facial harmony. Just like your eyebag example, people with "dead eyes" have lower eyelid exposure, and a negative trait in most cases turned into something sought after. It's not so much because that one trait is bad, rather than every other trait is decent if not above average. I understood the point you're trying to make, but usually, people can't explain why people with features that would make them unattractive in most scenarios can get away or benefit from it.

@samaraisnt

2 ай бұрын

literally that guy is full of shit when every “super hot bod” is underweight or dehydrated to look like that 💀 yet we don’t call underweight people (who are the majority of models) ugly but the ideal. i WONDER why that is? Is it because starving people look sooo healthy? Or could it beeee something else? 🤔 🤔 to make your muscles look good, your body has to lack hydration. like bro stop when you’re wrong.

@st8vie282

2 ай бұрын

Subjective but there is overall majorities that can be agreed on and can be considered in objective

The main issues is, that people are chronically online and overstimulated by "pretty faces" and now compare each other and everyone all the time instead of going outside. Society unlearned to be polite and to keep their mean thoughts to themselves. What happend to "individual taste?" and "everyone is beautiful in their own way?" TikTok is a hellhole for beauty standards where every day there is a new toxic trend or another toxic term to put people in boxes. I'm so glad I deleted that app 4 years ago. Also I tell my bf everyday how handsome he is. Why would you hurt your partner??

@FloppaTheBased

2 ай бұрын

"everyone is beautiful in their own way" is scientifically proven to be wrong at this point lol. Beauty is objective

@peterkerj7357

2 ай бұрын

You can't prove metaphysical claims through the scientific method.

@mateaukalua4426

2 ай бұрын

A lot of women would hurt their partner.

@NFX

2 ай бұрын

@@mateaukalua4426 a lot of men also hurt their partner.

@mateaukalua4426

2 ай бұрын

@@NFX Right. But there's a difference. Most men are looking to find a good woman. Women seek out bad boys and try to change them. Vast majority of men will never be able to have a no transactional relationship with someone who loves them whose also at equal looks as himself.

Thank you so much for making this video! I find this comforting.

Anyone going on social media and calling someone else fat or ugly is disgusting inside.

Timothee literally looks almost the same. He just got a fuller face now 😂….but yes, I was shocked too when I heard he was dating Ky lol.

@vernicegirl8987

3 ай бұрын

No Fr. I was confused at first cuz I was like he looks the same. I didn’t even notice the fuller face until someone pointed out to me. But he hasn’t visibly aged at all. No wrinkles, full head of hair, he looks healthier if I’m being honest. He almost looks younger to me because he has a fuller face.

@tmmartinesq.6216

2 ай бұрын

Chalomet not that great.

so if a guy is attractive he is more likely to cheat from the beginning if a guy is ugly and a pretty girl dates him she boosts his ego, he starts to believe he can pull anyone (aka even better than his gf), resulting in him most likely - again - cheating if a guy is ugly and any woman is dating him - he’s automatically seen as a desirable partner because he was chosen by woman, so again that boosts his ego the question: why should a woman choose an ugly guy if it doesn’t decrease her chances of being cheated on whatsoever 😁 girlss pls don’t waste your time on dudes who you desperately try to be attracted to. stop this self abuse what’s the point? choose those who you fancy and then decide based on personality. you deserve to live your life to its fullest, to experience pleasure and not to gaslight yourself into liking someone hoping it’ll keep you safe from pain - it will not

@fionastakelum2283

3 ай бұрын

💯. I saw a TikTok and a girl was telling girls to stop dating men who’s faces have to grow on you. and it stuck with me ever since

@K.C-2049

3 ай бұрын

I have convinced myself to "give him a chance" so many times despite being not terribly attracted. it never goes well lol

@user-gt7iy9zn3k

3 ай бұрын

he grow on me... and then immidietely dumped me

@pauuuulina

3 ай бұрын

the first guy ive ever really fall in love is one of the worst looking guys ive met and i aint joking, when he and i started talking i viewed him as a friend and then got so confused because i loved spending time with him but didnt like his face at all, but somehow i accepted that even tho he had a bad looking face i still wanted him so bad because "inside beauty is what matters" anyway he ended up being the craziest evilest guy ive met so he was ugly in the inside too

@nomthaarts5045

3 ай бұрын

What a twist​@@pauuuulina

"Short kings" - shows guys of average height or a little more. SOME women can be so delusional.

5'8" is actually average and yet you call 5'7"-5'8" short kings... Then what the hell do you call 5'3"?!? I've got no chance. You say some women have had a thing for so-called short kings, but i have *never* experienced that - EVER!!

I’ve always had a thing for “pretty” boys lol first crushes were Aaron Taylor Johnson and the kid from the live action Peter Pan movie :))

@fairyprincess1

3 ай бұрын

HAHA SAME Peter Pan was my first crush 😂

@MADEbySOUL

3 ай бұрын

Aaron Taylor Johnson was the definition of pretty boy back in Angus, Thongs and Perfect Snogging (2008). Til this day I feel embarrassed for that title.

@lilithtozier7467

3 ай бұрын

Me too! One of my first crushes was Edmund from the chronicles of Narnia and in my opinion, I thought Chandler Riggs in the walking dead was pretty and still do.

@Fawnbmbi

3 ай бұрын

Pretty boys are the best

@Lovestay822

3 ай бұрын

Same

Sometimes i think about this one time my pretty coworker told me she doesnt like hot guys. She only goes for ugly boys so she can feel like the pretty partner😭. I was in shock because my ex was so gorgeous. I miss when we would stop kissing just to admire each others faces because we thought the other was so beautiful. I’d hate if i had a partner that just wanted to get with me to make them feel better about themselves :(

@dreznoryorkekeenanbuckley2226

2 ай бұрын

That is beautiful.... You are a gem! I don't know why you guys broke up... But, he sounds like one too..😊

@user-ms2ce3sf1w

2 ай бұрын

Aww that's so sweet

@G.GordonMidi

2 ай бұрын

As an average-looking dude who has dated women who I’ve always thought were way tf out of my league, this hits a little close to home 😂 Are you saying they were with me so they could feel hotter?? That’s messed up, but also I wouldn’t change it even if I could

@grace_evans.

2 ай бұрын

@@G.GordonMidinope it doesn’t means so, it’s only the case if they are insecure a confident person wouldn’t do this

I guess people would call me medium ugly, but if I ever hear my SO justify being with me by saying they are into medium ugly guys, i would feel dehumanized. You could so easily just say you are into ME specifically, and just leave the "medium ugly" part unsaid. You still communicate that you are attracted to me, without making it about yourself. Protecting your status at my expense is a problem, and honestly would make me want to break up, or at least set some boundaries if they haven't been yet.

I truly think people need to log off social media. God bless you ❤

I’m so glad you mentioned Adam Driver. He has a huge female fan base in the Star Wars community. It’s funny though because those women were dunked on by other women in the fandom who think he’s ugly but also dunked on by men in the fandom who say they only like Star Wars because they think he’s hot 😭 you just can’t win. Love all your videos!!

@Maialeen

3 ай бұрын

I mean, he is ugly. He's not proportionate and he's just goofy looking. He was propped up as this thirst symbol. It's fine that some people think he's attractive. It's not fine to try to sell that to a wider audience. No one would ever treat a woman on his level of looks that well. And the women who criticized him being propped up as a hottie are smart and know that. It's always uglier and older men that people try to tell us are hot. If it was the same for both sides, no one would have a problem. But the world is trying to tell me that Pedro Pascal and Margot Robbie are the same level of attractive.

@ChevonJBenzo

2 ай бұрын

If we’re talking about Star Wars, nobody out beats Hayden Christensen in the looks department

@squarebear619

2 ай бұрын

The Star Wars Fandom is a contender for the worst fandom as far as negativity with the most infighting. Racist, sexist, misogynistic, etc. It's the 4Chan/8 Chan of fandoms. 🥴💀

@junglecat_rant

2 ай бұрын

​@@ChevonJBenzo Yes. Hayden is a good looking guy.

@balancedpadawan

2 ай бұрын

@@ChevonJBenzo totally agreed but he’s conventionally attractive imo

People think that the absence of beauty equates to ugliness and they forget that personal taste exists.

@sentiment201

2 ай бұрын

the irony is host calls others ugly, if I'm like this person I may not talk about other's beauty

@notproductiveproductions3504

2 ай бұрын

@@sentiment201🤖

@leftenantthunder

2 ай бұрын

personal taste is not nearly as unique as people think it is

@fanban2926

2 ай бұрын

@@leftenantthunderGenerally so yeah, everyone can't be unique.

@ysy_y

2 ай бұрын

A lot of people don’t understand beauty is based a lot on culture; If they lived in another culture, they’d think what they as beautiful now is not beautiful.

i just discovered your channel tonight, binged your videos, and i am so thankful for it. tonight was hard. tonight pushed me into a darker place than i have been in a long time. you made me laugh, you made me laugh again, and again and again, but all the while, you said things that were important and informational. i learned a lot a found a little peace. thank you so much.

I’m a straight guy. Personally, ugly isn’t really even on my scale of attractiveness. On one end there’s “attractive to me”, and on the other there’s “not attractive to me” but ugly just isn’t on there. If I’m always focused on what repulses me, I’ll never find what attracts me.

Interesting video! But I think your missing an important point: Imo so many people are bitter about "ugly" men dating women more attractive than them, not because they are "ugly" but unbelievably low effort (unshaven, crazy hair, no skin care, etc.). Like if you think about everything women are willing to do to boost their appearance (make up, hair extensions, dyes, epilation, laser, skin care, diet, exercise, shopping, spending endless $$$$) to still end up being called mid like Margot Robbie, it would turn anyone mad lol It's the resentment from the expectation to constantly work on your appearance all your life when some random ass "ugly" men who barely invest any care into theirs (and won't because that's not MaNlyyy) can just come about and be accepted for who they are. And like you said yourself, the opposite is very very rare (attractive men who go for less attractive women), so I think there is a lot more to this topic that can be discussed in terms of double standards and how both gender are for sure not upheld to the same amount of "effort" one needs to put into themselves.

@hey-zel

3 ай бұрын

Yes I think this is more of the reason why this started. It does have double standards unfortunately

@Kenshi_nellacuki

3 ай бұрын

Hair and skin are mostly genetics, also women put more effort into themselves because they have makeup,extensions,dresses,jewelry etc etc. and yeah guys also have their things but much less, they mostly rely on genetics. Also I dunno even why I'm commenting I think this argument is sooooo retarded (with All respect to the mentally challenged people), it's like regressing into superficiality and aesthetics as the most important thing in life

@ville__

3 ай бұрын

meanwhile madisyn is friends with Miranda sings...

@milodavis9820

3 ай бұрын

The problem though is that you have to actually choose to change in order to shift the culture. Men have to choose to do skincare and/or women have to choose not to wear makeup. And we both know neither of those two things are going to happen. Both sides will be convinced that its the other side that needs to change, because its much easier to point fingers than it is to change something about yourself that would be worth changing. no ones forcing you to get unnecessary expensive laser treatments, just as no ones forcing men to shave their face. Therefore, everything will stay the same. Unless you force or choose change...nothing will change.

@jamiewilson1532

3 ай бұрын

​​@@milodavis9820more and more guys are changing and caring about their looks, that's why looksmaxing came about. Too bad it's still attached to toxic ideas about women.

I saw a lot TikTok’s where ppl (mostly girls) saying that they can’t watch shows with ugly ppl. And giving examples. I’m so shocked bc in the last few years we’ve been talking so much abt TikTok toxic beauty standards. So it’s strange seeing ppl behave this way. This goes into the “how to get a guy” TikTok’s I’ve been seeing where it’s just emotional abuse. And when ppl say that it’s not ok or compare it to abusing women I see a lot of ppl saying it’s not abuse. It is still abuse either way. And shouldn’t be laughed off. 🙈

@lacidolmar311

3 ай бұрын

The way people treat Bella Ramsey and Joey King is crazy

@Talia778

3 ай бұрын

@@lacidolmar311omg this!! It’s actually crazy how comfortable ppl are with calling them names.

@Joannachin

3 ай бұрын

And people expected this new generation to me more open minded...

@itsdavinaaa1785

2 ай бұрын

@@Joannachinthey’re only open minded and accepting if you’re attractive

@shzarmai

2 ай бұрын

​@@itsdavinaaa1785 exactly, preach 🙌 👏 🙏

Thanks for the video. I think I can feel the trend you are describing. I'm 5"8' and always was really skinny, few years ago I also had long hair. Attracting women was effortless, some were openly inviting. Recently I got a lot of muscle and cut my hair. And now it's hard, women seem less welcoming, more judgemental and boundary conscious.

@poppyblue1512

Ай бұрын

Interestingly, most women don't respond very well to masculine looking men. I know for sure I'm like that, and the men I feel attracted to always have this soft masculine/slightly feminine look to them. I believe it's because we find masculine looking men threatening, but it's more of a subconscious reaction though, not necessarily intentional.

@henrykkaufman1488

Ай бұрын

@@poppyblue1512 Thanks for sharing. I have similar conclusions regarding feeling subconsciously threatened.

@Ryan-cb1ei

Ай бұрын

I don’t think it’s you, I just think they’re less likely to approach a more masculine looking man. I don’t think they’re any less attracted, more women are def attracted to that more masculine look, just that maybe you filled a niche before where since you were unconventional, the women who liked you were willing to make it more obvious

@henrykkaufman1488

Ай бұрын

@@Ryan-cb1ei Maybe, but even beefed up, I don't think I hit the treshold of masculine for many women. In other words, women are more attracted to exceptionally masculine looking men, which I am definitely not because of my height, and I had better attraction when I filled a niche of unconventionality.

I just love you and your content so much gurll!!!!

It's so weird to me how people feel such a need to voice their opinion on how other people look, man or woman. Like why do you care so much about how someone looks that you dont even know? Just strange behavior.

@tvgamerstan6180

2 ай бұрын

That's how I felt whenever I got trolled online back in 2015-2016 on Instagram by other gay men and straight people. Like, why are y'all so pressed about the way that I look ? Basically, they wanted me to hate myself because they didn't find me attractive. People need people to feel ugly. It just goes to show how disgusting their spirits are. The crazy thing is people treat ugliness as a crime. If you're conventionally attractive, you basically can be a terrible person. You can be mean, a groomer, an abuser, a drug dealer, or scammer as long as you're attractive. People don't care if you're a decent person who happens to be conventionally unattractive. Being ugly makes you being a decent person go out the window lol. I'm just glad I don't care to ever have friends or to find a partner anymore. The only social interaction I'll receive is just from my family. I feel like people are too weird for me.

I know a lot of people say this but I truly mean it. I am extremely attracted to personality. For me it is EVERYTHING. If you have an attractive personality, your appearance WILL become attractive to me. Period. Same as if a literal model comes up to me but their personality is off putting to me, I don’t care that everyone thinks you’re the hottest guy in the room, I will NOT be able to see it. Once I’m attracted to you as a person, everything about you is hot to me, obviously?!

@naomivought9317

3 ай бұрын

Yep same

@jin394

2 ай бұрын

Yeah. I see a lot of comments here about "don't date someone who's face has to grow on you" and I'm like uhhh, for some of us almost all faces would have to grow on us to at least some degree.

@womp3571

2 ай бұрын

this was so me when i was bisexual tbh, i had a great time! keep doing you babe

@northstar2621

2 ай бұрын

​​@@jin394I saw that on a thumbnail of a video from one of these anti red pill channels and thought the same! I watch those channels regularly for that sweet female peer support, but sometimes it disturbs me how their advice seemingly comes so close to the redpill "rules of life". I'm not aspiring to be a female version of these "I only date perfect tens" men and I have an aversion for that mindset. I do enjoy the contents of these channels to a point, but I can only take it in small portions and I disagree about a lot. I personally see men who really turn my head maybe once a month. Men are mostly like faceless mass to me, they don't catch my eye like that. But when I get to know a man, if they are a good person and good company, it's almost like I'm looking at a different human being because they become very aesthetically attractive and pleasant looking to me.

@sugarzblossom8168

2 ай бұрын

People act as if saying you mainly care about personality is a popular opinion which currently it is not

But if you call women 'medium ugly' they'll call you a 'misogynist.' Nice double standard there.

Are we forgetting that none of these “ugly” men are also poor?

@TiktokBro154

3 ай бұрын

facts

@bgos4727

2 ай бұрын

I don't see your point. No one is ratings base on money

@TiktokBro154

2 ай бұрын

@@bgos4727 The guys in the video are all famous celebrities so this doesn't include the average everyday guys

@thesevenkingswelove9554

2 ай бұрын

​@@TiktokBro154 but average ugly men are also picked so wheres the excuse for that? Also these ugly guys who are rich are with pretty girls who are RICH too 😂 bfr now

@pingeee

2 ай бұрын

@@TiktokBro154 exactly, no one would care about them if they were average guys

Honestly, I feel like we've been led to believe that conventionally attractive men are going to be jerks. Plus women have always been more lax regarding men's appearances than vice versa.

@srizangupta1957

3 ай бұрын

If that was true, then women would be having a better time dating. But they are clearly not.

@alexisreve1

3 ай бұрын

@@srizangupta1957 Exactly. The bar is so low and men still can't get it together.

@srizangupta1957

3 ай бұрын

@@alexisreve1 no I THINK you misunderstood me. Women reject men who they don't find attractive. It means women are dating attractive men, and getting their heart broken and divorcing them. 70 % of divorces are initiated by women. It means conventionally attractive guys are more jerks then you think. And they keep taking advantage of it. Look at dating apps for example, women swipe right on tiny minority of men and still are frustrated with dating. It means women are hitting out of their league. Bar for men is not low anymore. They have to conform to strict beauty standards now, way more then women.

@milodavis9820

3 ай бұрын

I'm a pretty chill/introverted kind of guy, and ive been told thoroughout my life that I'm conventionally attractive. Id say it seems that I struggle to find people to connect with/have a relationship with and it can be quite lonely. I often feel people are nervous to approach me, and for the life of me Ive never met a women that didn't think I was an F-boy just from looking at me, in fact Ive been called that few times upon first interactions. Ive even changed my style multiple times and everything..no use.

@sunflower9460

3 ай бұрын

​@@milodavis9820 That's probably partially due to the introverted/shyness as it makes it hard to go up to people and sometimes people perceive you as someone you're not because they are solely going off of how you look as you probably aren't speaking that much. That being said women aren't one entity and everyone has different likes dislikes and opinions and obviously there are shy girls too as well as loud ones. You'll definitely find someone but as introverts we don't tend to date as much and therefore we don't tend to have as many relationships as regularly as other people. Basically what I'm trying to say is don't compare yourself to other people, just be yourself and just prove people wrong (perceptions can always be changed trust me).

If 28 is "pushing 30" then 18 is pushing 20

Are you gonna rate any black men sister

I think the rise in “medium ugly” men has less to do with actually finding them attractive and more so the halo effect ppl get when they see someone conventionally attractive with someone who isn’t, they come off attractive just by proxy, plus women seem to think dating someone ugly will make them less susceptible to get cheated on when it actually doesn’t lol plus there’s this idea that dating someone “uglier” than you gave you a boost in ego

@Joannachin

3 ай бұрын

So basically those women are dating not for love but to feel better?

@Kenshi_nellacuki

3 ай бұрын

​@@Joannachinit's kinda evil and manipulative

@Maialeen

3 ай бұрын

Wild mindset that dating someone "uglier" would give them an ego boost. When people see her with some ugly man, no one's thinking "Woooow, she's so cool". You also don't look prettier next to them. You look like someone dating someone unattractive and the only thought people have is lol wtf

@thesevenkingswelove9554

2 ай бұрын

​@@Kenshi_nellacuki what's even more evil is that these ugly men still cheat even if you give them a chance

@omaewamoushindeiru6581

2 ай бұрын

Not true at all

For years my fiance' and I worked for the same retail company (so we'd often work at each others' stores if any of them were short staffed for the day) and the amount of people I worked with who went out of their way to talk shit to me about my man being "unattractive" or saying some mean shit about his appearance to my face was mind-blowing to me. I never cared what people think because he's attractive TO ME and he treats me well (we've been besties since meeting in college 12 yrs ago and he's wonderful) but it surprises me how people feel entitled to warrant their unwanted opinion about someone else's appearance for no reason. Appearance doesn't detract from someone's heart/character, so I'm not sure why it bothers people so much, especially when THEY don't have to wake up to that person every day. It's just mean-spirited and that's what real ugliness/unattractiveness is. 💯 These toxic beauty standards for men & women need to die already. :-/

@lordgrim355

3 ай бұрын

That’s wild. Like you said, I never understood why women feel the need to do that type of shit. Like that’s bold af to tell someone their SO is ugly to your face

@megchippendale529

3 ай бұрын

Yeah it’s contradictory to say the least, we preach about inner beauty & what’s on the inside yet are quick to call people ugly or mid without even speaking to them. I get we have preferences and different ideals but since when do we need to state it. Like you mentioned we all have different types we are attracted too. A lot Of these celebrities especially woman that are considered the ultimate standard of beauty have had plastic surgery too has anyone ever noticed that? I mean they say Bella Hadid it the most beautiful but look at all the work she has had done. I’m sorry people were so cruel about your boyfriend. Men in general age better I think so 🤷‍♀️

@megchippendale529

3 ай бұрын

@@lordgrim355same I could never lol even if I didn’t think my friend had a hot boyfriend I’d always say they were cute or nice looking, only if asked. And leave it at that.

@lordgrim355

3 ай бұрын

@@megchippendale529 ppl weird af. Like the audacity

@megchippendale529

3 ай бұрын

@@lordgrim355 exactly, unfortunately it’s the world we live in these days.

first view of yours i’ve watched. extremely reasonable and insightful thoughts. subscribed

I’m a 33 year old dainty average ugly man, and I want to say thank you for this video. I don’t want to be huge, I don’t want to put in the effort. I just don’t care. I don’t want to be compared to Jason Momoa, I’m just me.

I'm always suprised at what society chooses to pick apart by targeting small details on groups of people that don't diminish who they are as a person. Why is it always necessary to scrutinize flaws any regular person might have? Also, everything is subjective you will never have an opinion that every single other person on earth agrees with. If it isn't benefiting anyone, KEEP. IT. TO. YOURSELF! Having preferences is normal and I would even say healthy, but belittling someone for something as basic as "they aren't my type" is stupid. It doesn't need to be said.

@ysy_y

2 ай бұрын

People confuse preference and prejudice

Gen Z not knowing people like Mick Jagger existed. Nothing is new under the sun. Gen Z didn't introduce unconventional handsomeness 😂

@itsoffthebabango6090

2 ай бұрын

Clearly lol

@amin3955

2 ай бұрын

ok boomer

@misterr.d.v9454

2 ай бұрын

@@amin3955 you're welcome zoomer

@muhammadlee-

2 ай бұрын

Don’t forget the Beatles.

@germandarling123

2 ай бұрын

I feel like it's also a bit of an American/Hollywood thing where every actor and every actress has to look PERFECT. In Europe, we had and have way more famous actors and actresses who aren't "conventionally attractive".

Madison you ate this up. The scientist on TikTok (forgot his name) really summarized everything I’ve been trying to tell people

I’m obsessed with you defining “You’ve Got Mail” as a *Meg Ryan movie* 👏🏻👏🏻

@awesomecutieusername

2 ай бұрын

my favorite rom com!

I just think it is so unbelievably hypocritical to fight for changing female beauty standards and then turn around and openly and unabashedly insult men who aren't conventionally attractive. like how is that not part of the problem

@jocosesonata

2 ай бұрын

Sounds like a taste of their own medicine. Women put in a lot of effort looking pretty, I say it's fair game men start doing the same. *_Body Shame Men!_*

i think people with unique features and “different” looking faces are so so beautiful. people like adam driver and tyler the creator are unique looking and so so beautiful to me

@samaraisnt

2 ай бұрын

yes as a painter i agree!! saying those women are just delusion discounts that there is no prescription for perfect beauty like JAW looks like a statue, stahp. (it’s also very, ‘women don’t know what they’re talking about let me explain what she really means’-ish?? like no bro she said what she said.)

@ilikepancakes2368

2 ай бұрын

Cap 🧢. You only like them because they are famous. If they were your average Joe, you would reject them. Even Tyler got rejected before he became a rapper.

@sophiayoung1095

2 ай бұрын

@@ilikepancakes2368 not true at all, im drawn to people with unique features and faces and hair and personalities in real life too. dont act like you know me personally and the people ive dated 🙈

@yolanda6392

2 ай бұрын

@@ilikepancakes2368stop projecting lmfao

@pingeee

2 ай бұрын

@@ilikepancakes2368 exactly this

She mentioned Billie's comment about how ugly men will date a beautiful woman and act like they own the world, but that's not the only way they can react. I've seen many beautiful, confident women online talk about how their boyfriends are jealous of them and try to knock them down a peg whenever they can!!! Stuff like refusing to compliment their girlfriends or mocking them when they have interests or even get excited and bubbly about something they love. It's truly insidious. I think the thing to take from this is that despite the statistics, you really cant know what your partner will be like until you actually get to know them.

The irony of this is that all these same girls would rate themselves a 10

i feel in some of these cases “medium ugly” is just a ‘trendy’ way of describing mildly unconventional hotness Especially with celebrities It’s important to remember what we find attractive is very socially influenced and as such is influenced by systemic discrimination

@samaraisnt

2 ай бұрын

actually perfectly put. unconventional hot, exactly! it isn’t even ugly at all? i couldn’t describe it but that’s it!

@mariamart_0

2 ай бұрын

You can contributed it to living in a system, where racism, sexism, colorism, misogyny, misandry, and white supremacy are ruling over what humans we find attractive and hot. Mainly, it comes to determining who is worthy or unworthy..😐

@7arb-f-15

2 ай бұрын

@@mariamart_0 thank you for including the word misandry 🙏🏼❤️ its nice to know theres still some women who care about men.

@FloppaTheBased

2 ай бұрын

it's not socially influenced it's biologically hardwired. Even infants distinguish attractive faces from ugly ones lol

@kwasiahenkora6583

2 ай бұрын

It's still disrespectful af, just say below average. Good God...

WHY why do so many women I KNOW call their boyfriends MEDIUM UGLY!!! LIKE ARE U GIRLIES TELLING UR BF THAT TO HIS FACE?! that is insane. i would never call my partner ugly, becuase why tf would i think that about my partner. i love them they’re beautiful!!!

@adalheidisofadamahcaptaino18

2 ай бұрын

And that's you, not everyone that attatched to their looks that they will have a mental break down if they are called ugly. I just know you will lose it when you start aging.

@nappyfries

20 күн бұрын

To me, all of my partners have been attractive to me & I’ve told them that. Repeatedly lol I couldn’t imagine thinking that let alone tell them that.

Thank you. Super thoughtful

You are absolutely spot on with this video

Calling someone "Medium Ugly" is like someone trying to be rude, cause instead of insulting them, YOU CAN JUST SAY THEY LOOK AVERAGE!!! LIKE BRUH!!!! Istg people are so pretentious now.

being chronically online its so interesting seeing the pendulum swing on topics about beauty. like it wasnt long ago that people on social media were critiquing celebrities or influencers who rised to fame because people found them attractive and calling people shallow and the whole pretty privilege convo and "people should be famous for their talents not their looks!" to now people complaining on average looking people getting famous and "we want hot male leads in romcoms no one wants to see an ugly dude fall in love" or "bring back it girls/ the 90s supermodel era" (cause they dont want to be seen as misogynistic for calling women ugly) its just soooo odd

How is Chalemet ugly? Bro, even barry or Jeremy aren’t ugly. I swear people’s perception of beyond are being distorted by the internet.

Who judges women so harshly? Probably other women. Most guys are happy with a cute girl next door type. That doesn't mean we want a 250 lb girl or whatever the "new normal" is considered to be.

@ALTheFreeMan

2 ай бұрын

This is insane. Floating around the manosphere I already knew things were bad, but I didn’t know it was THIS bad! Average looking guys are done, lol.

As a 6’5” dude with weak arms and bit of a dad bod and a crooked nose…am I doing it right? 😂

It’s a very “chronically online” thing to justify treating men badly because “men do it all the time”. Maybe just all the places I’ve lived in are heaven, but I’ve rarely come across men who act like how yall describe them to. Most men are just normal people, you just need to go outside.

@bgos4727

2 ай бұрын

I do see them but they are in high school

@nightmarishcompositions4536

2 ай бұрын

Yup. This is basically just the female equivalent to a toxic incel echo chamber. Femcels are just as bad.

@adalheidisofadamahcaptaino18

2 ай бұрын

You are lucky, you never seen it. Plenty of us have seen it. I don't agree with perpetuating such cruelty though. Nitpicking appearance unprovoked is crazy.

@The-DAWG957

Ай бұрын

Most of these women are chronically online narcissists who beleive their anecdotal experiences are law. They don't care about the male experience, just how they see and what they feel so it much be true. Gotta ignore this side of youtube bro.

As a guy who likes guys, I think you’ve got to have an imperfection. It’s almost like an Achilles heel. Conventional beauty for me is bland and vanilla

@fictionlover695

2 ай бұрын

Wish everyone of us could think like u. We all have Achilles heels but unwilling to accept someone's flaws as we are unwilling to accept our own BTW any examples of said heels?

@Kit1517

2 ай бұрын

@@fictionlover695 *this is all extremely subjective* Men: Bad teeth, BMI (really high/low), height, build(overly stocky/wiry), body hairiness(some people don’t like that), hair(density+hairline), some facial features. For women there are many more parameters that they are judged by and I don’t feel like channeling the male gaze or writing allat so yeah 👍🏾

@mateaukalua4426

2 ай бұрын

I guess because I am of a darker ethnicity it's different for us. Outside of social media most guys will take whatever they can get. This lack of selectiveness has had a negative impact on our dating market value.

@jamiemohan2049

22 күн бұрын

I'm gay too and agree to an extent. The main difference between me and women though is I don't find abnormally tall men attractive. Like I don't see how height relates to beauty unless it is extreme. A 6'6 guy is not hotter than a 5'8 man to me, often looks goofy. That is the main difference I find between what I find attractive and women

Im gonna go read a book now.

I honestly was about to pass on this because of the title, but, for some reason I clicked on it and I’m so happy I did. This is such a well researched thought out and articulated video that I’m now adding myself as another one of your subscribers; which, I’m sure does not make or break your bank 🤣👀🤷🏻‍♀️, but regardless, I just wanted to post my sincere appreciation for this, and thank you for being an extreme thinker, intellectually thorough, and great at putting all that information into organized discussions that keep us thinking, and evening pausing on that thought, because the statement produced multiple different thoughts. Only the best speakers, writers, poets, producers, journalists, etc… can achieve that. 👏 💯 👍

Beauty is really subjective. It's human to form opinions; the crucial part is what we do with those opinions. For example, when I look at some of the 'medium ugly' men mentioned in the video, I find most of them to be attractive, some fall into the 'not unappealing' category, and one of them genuinely extremely unattractive. I don't personally think I am evil for that - we are just animals after all so I might be picking up on a face pattern that subconsciously reminds me of someone, or it's been passed down in my DNA to avoid someone who looks like that etc., but I KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT about it. What would it achieve if I went on that celebrity's instagram and told them I find them downright repulsive? It's a horrible thing to say and would only serve to hurt them/people who look like them who might see the comment. That's also why I am not naming the person. No one is obliged to find everyone on the planet attractive, but I'll never understand the urge some people feel to let everyone know what they think about their looks. Men especially love to do that do women - any time I see a women express an opinion online, there is always someone going 'well you're ugly so'. People suck.

@Kenshi_nellacuki

3 ай бұрын

🙏👌

lmaoo not fat shaming timothee… he looks the same if not better because he doesn’t look like he’s on the brink of death anymore lol

@carmendelcastillo7724

2 ай бұрын

He is now a healthy Victorian child.

@malouj7932

2 ай бұрын

​@@carmendelcastillo7724😂😂😂

@jessicalukram74

2 ай бұрын

Exactly

Never heard of that term Dayum. Great video

Y’all settling 😂

before I started going to the gym I was into and pursued skinny guys probably because i thought they were more attainable to me,, I remember muscular men being intimidating to me. then when I started lifting,, muscular men became more approachable to me. a year later,, here i am with my boyfriend of 8 months who's a gym rat and is incredibly loving and caring,, forest of green flags,, and I couldn't be happier and more in love.

@ilikepancakes2368

2 ай бұрын

I keep telling my bros this. Women want a strong muscular man. Anything less and she’s settling. This is how female nature works.

@cocoaxo6126

2 ай бұрын

me 🙏🏽🙏🏽 praying for this

@pmmcrn

2 ай бұрын

Right, you realise that a lot of different personalities go to gym, and its no longer an unknown land

@mikelitorous5570

2 ай бұрын

It’s more the energy you put out you receive. If you’re a gym rat, you’ll probably get into relationships with gym rats. It’s one of the reasons that kept me on the gym grind. I wanted to look better for myself but I also found gym girls really attractive but I knew I wouldn’t really stand a chance if I was weaker or still skinny.

@vivitronn

Күн бұрын

guys he cheated on me