pre-save "missing out" here! distrokid.com/hyperfollow/madisyn/missing-out

@intearnet6926

Жыл бұрын

same girl who shamed others for plastic surgery out of insecurity and jealousy i’m not taking u seriously 😭😭😭

@intearnet6926

Жыл бұрын

get vocal lessons u stuck up b!tch

@intearnet6926

Жыл бұрын

@Your lost kitten u must be new here... go watch her bbl video which she turned the comments off of cuz she knew how disgusting she was for posting it.

@solarmoth4628

Жыл бұрын

I feel like Russia contains many different ethnic groups that might not be traditionally considered as white despite us usually only seeing white russians depicted in American media

@intearnet6926

Жыл бұрын

fad.

Tbh I never really think thinness went out of fashion. Even 'curvy' beauty was still 'slim-thick' at most.

@soonsims

Жыл бұрын

Yeah big boobs and ass and small waist will always be preferred.

@magicallydelicious1673

Жыл бұрын

@@trichelleivory2874 plus size is a pretty broad term that includes simply being overweight, and I don’t think we should gatekeeper how heavy you need to be “plus size” of course I’m not saying skinny girls should be in the plus size section, but we can accept all sizes of plus size

@kittenchristmas4194

Жыл бұрын

Whenever you see slim-thick it's always big breasts, butt, hips, and thighs with a flat stomach. I'm not an expert on fat distribution in the body, but generally someone on the heavier side will have some in their stomach, no? Curvy bodies were celebrated but only if the curves were in the right places.

@soonsims

Жыл бұрын

@@trichelleivory2874 Yeah but big hips and boobs with small waist is curvy. Big everything is fat. Not every fat person is curvy and not every curvy person is fat. It's different.

@badbeachindustry1615

Жыл бұрын

I can vouch for a fact that I can work out and starve myself to oblivion and I still have a pudgey belly, because thats my body. Situps, diets and everything. Certain bodies are in trend and if you have the body you're in trend. My mother used to run miles and up hills everyday at one point. Still had the belly. Sometimes you just gotta accept how you look and enjoy it , because youre not going to be able to look like other people unless you want to indulge in plastic surgery...FR thats just the truth at this point. Don't buy into media because its designed to make you feel like shit and the people they use to do so get paid for it......

how do people criticize yolanda but idolize bella hadids body at the same time

@boredasf4856

Жыл бұрын

I think it’s cause yolanda is showing how bella’s body gets to that point. While bella is spouting bullshit and making it seem that by eating fast food and not dieting(starving yourself) you can still achieve that body type.

@lizhernandez4997

Жыл бұрын

So true!

@xocolaatl

Жыл бұрын

They like the result but not the process that goes behind it.

@banelini7699

Жыл бұрын

people love to watch models performatively stuffing themselves with fast food and saying "I eat whatever I want" because it lets them have this fantasy that you can have a Bella Hadid body without sacrifice. when Yolanda steps in their fantasy is distupted because it turns out that this sort of body comes with both physical and mental health consequences.

@yoyhemmings945

Жыл бұрын

True, and calling her the worst mom as if her kids didn't become successful models and are still in touch with her. What they do not understand is Yolanda raised her kids based on the best way she knew and her own experience as a former model herself. No parent is perfect and she said horrible things but let's be real, they cannot achieve the bodies they have without sacrifices of restricting and dieting.

That 'clean girl, white everything, unrealistic productivity' was the rising of this...The 'That Girl' thing fueled the beginning of this era.

@katgreer6113

Жыл бұрын

YUUUPPPP

@luca57882

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, all of those thin vegan girls are giving me Ana tumblr flashbacks

@carolinedunn4091

Жыл бұрын

LITERALLY

@badbeachindustry1615

Жыл бұрын

I enjoyed the clean girl trend untill I realised that as a woman we bleed, and i walk everywhere and its a waste of money wearing white clothes just for them to get ruined and stained from daily life😂😂😂 they still look immaculate tho Kudos to them.

@kamilareeder1493

Жыл бұрын

Getting tons of things done, without getting a speck on your pristine white and tan outfit is the epitome of an unrealistic standard. 😂 I work as a modern dancer and a personal trainer and I have to wear black every day to try and hide all the sweat from work 😭🤷‍♂️😂 white is a color you can only wear while performing. Most Dancers hate wearing white/ballet pink as adults because it shows every curve/roll/flaw on your body and EVERY sweat stain. Most girls I know who wear white leotards in class/rehearsals are the kind that other women look at , and despair 🤷‍♂️🥲 When I was a server, we wore black for the same reason. Its about looking effortless even though you're doing something really hard and NEVER cracking or showing that strain. It makes sense to wear white on social media, because you are essentially performing (or at least bella is) but to impose that standard on real life is just depressing 👀🥲🤷‍♂️. What a trap.

I genuinely had war flashbacks when she said “thigh gap”. there were weeks where i ate only a single apple unaware that my body could NEVER produce that look.

@LaguBudakKuching

Жыл бұрын

GIRL i remember the thigh gap era too! It was a nightmare honestly

@allthingaialf

Жыл бұрын

I feel sorry that you had to go through that phase, I hope you are now healthy and at your best 💖

@besteayan4210

Жыл бұрын

The single apple hit hard... atleast now we are aware of the fact that those expectations are unrealistic and most things are about genetics that we have no control over

@allthingaialf

Жыл бұрын

@@sinenomine8772 that's so upsetting, I wish you health and prosperity

@fried_worms2827

Жыл бұрын

Feel that. I ate only mushrooms and like 2 slices of lunch meat? I did lose weight, but my thighs stayed prominent lol

The way people like the Kardashians just shape-shift never ceases to blow my mind. And we’re all so self aware. We know about these trends, surgery, unrealistic beauty standards we know about patriarchy we know it’s bad and yet the cycle continues. Obviously it’s not that simple cos there are and always will be real world implications for people, especially women ESPECIALLY women of colour, based on physical appearance and it’s all so complex but still it’s sad to just watch the cycle over and over again

@nicoleonlysometimes824

Жыл бұрын

I’m so tired

@Makyura43

Жыл бұрын

I'm interested how does this connects with patriarchy ? Men quite literally do not care or give a fuck about any of these things. If you feel compelled to change what you wear every few weeks and change yourself every few years because of internet trends , than delete social media. Or don't be an idiot that can work as well. Or continue and blame the "society"...

@iloveme2324

Жыл бұрын

I feel like someeee people are self aware but the majority isn’t which is why the cycle continues

@iloveme2324

Жыл бұрын

@@Makyura43 I think it does involve the patriarchy on some level; essentially our beauty standards have been based on the male gaze for centuries and it still is and the popular women who influence our current trends are subjecting themselves to male approval and the woman’s idea of what another person whether man or female will find attractive, I.e. is why so many people look up to “celebrities” and how they’re praised. It may not be obvious but on some biological level we all want our own society’s approval/acceptance, whatever u wanna call it

@mauve9266

Жыл бұрын

@@iloveme2324 I’d agree. Sometimes when you’re online so much you forget that a lot of people aren’t or if they are, they aren’t necessarily having these conversations. But even then I think we (I) overestimate how much mere self awareness matters with stuff like this. How many things do we do in our daily lives that we know are harmful and do them anyway? I think even if everyone were aware like every single person, yes it’d probably have an affect but I don’t think it’d be as profound as we’d hope.

As a white girl with the concave butt to show for it, it's really scary how not only body parts but ethnic features go in and out of trends. Sure, I can rock into the new decade in my old skinny jeans from the 00s but many friends of mine, curvier, with darker skin and hair, saw their looks celebrated for the first time. They finally felt good about themselves, they loved high-waisted pants being everywhere, songs about big butts hitting the charts. I just hope they can cling to that feeling and know that they're beautiful even when high fashion gets a new favourite girl again.

@litttlepigboy

Жыл бұрын

concave butt made me giggle but this comment is sweet

@kiwiwooq

Жыл бұрын

Concave 💀

@mw7845

Жыл бұрын

@@KreatureCargeaux yes, the original comment made it seem like accepting curvy bodies was totally positive. It pushed a new very specific almost impossible to achieve figure (catered to the male gaze) that sexualized those features it claimed to praise. This also disproportionally affected woc

@aaliyahporter7261

Жыл бұрын

Girl u spoker louder for the ppl in the front and back

@audrey9able

Жыл бұрын

You know what, love your friends. I know this is not really a solution, but love them, support them, critique them when necessary and just keep showing that every figure deserves respect, not just being idealized. The thing is, we just got here. I see great little fashion shows that now show a variety of bodies, big, small, tall, in-between.... It's strange, and it's from tumblr again. I'm actually still active there and I personally don't see these types of posts/content, BUT i do make sure I don't see those. I edit the feed/recommended on my social media so I don't see and engage on gross topics as much as I can. So please, love and respect the people a d their bodies as much as we can. Because the mainstream won't.

The only Tumblr "trends" I will be personally bringing back is reading obscure one shot fanfics of questionable quality before I go to sleep.

@huntermeek5566

Жыл бұрын

Same here! lmao

@Liz-abeth

11 ай бұрын

ABSOLUTELY

@VanessaKim-sy6xg

5 ай бұрын

!!!!!!!

@Man-ej6uv

2 ай бұрын

and making shitty self ship fanart

Y'all should read the essay "everyone is beautiful and no one is horny". Such a fantastic deconstruction of our obsession with thinness in the west and the societal purpose it serves

@aroundyou4eva883

Жыл бұрын

thanks for the recommendation! it was really great.

@rose44491

Жыл бұрын

Bet I’m on it!

@pepependo5810

Жыл бұрын

where do I find it?

@aspenlawrence835

Жыл бұрын

@@pepependo5810 just googling the title should show you the link! :)

@DayneandtheStars

7 ай бұрын

Just red it! Very good! Thank you for the recommendation!

Honestly it’s not even Bella Hadid cuz she just minds her business. Its how people talk about her. It’s weird. She seems very nice but people project their insecurities and fantasies onto her. Same with the “skinny” trends like low rise jeans. I don’t understand the collective cry of fear cuz no ones is making you wear that… and other type of jeans are gonna exist. I think these trends or phenomenons can seem more dramatic or influential than they really are because of social media and their algorithms.

@MadisynBrown

Жыл бұрын

"no ones making you wear that" exactly! 😭

@Vvvxxloxe

Жыл бұрын

Exactly..even the whole plastic surgery /photoshop issue. If you need to know someone had surgery or used photoshop to be beautiful to feel confident in your body then sorry to say.. THAT'S NOT REAL CONFIDENCE.... And your insecurities will never go away.... Ps accusing people of having eds..is extremely dumb and wrong

@miglek9613

Жыл бұрын

I think people who remember the 2000s are scared of skinny jeans because back then there was pretty much no way to find high rise jeans before the BBL body came in style (at least in eastern EU, where I live) and they fear it's going to be the same way again. Like, I have always been slightly chubby and I didn't know high rise jeans existed until like 2013 or 2014 (I was like 11/12 at the time and had little autonomy around the clothes that were bought to me) despite my body struggling to fit into anything even mid rise. In regards to Bella... I bet she's nice but her mother was literally pushing eating disorders on her daughters, forcing them to starve and all, I'd be genuinely shocked if she doesn't have an eating disorder somehow

@mohasalmedeh2567

Жыл бұрын

Let's not forget the girls who always using her pics doing normal human things like (eating walking drinking) and add caption "ShE's JuSt LiKe mE fR" like ma'am is bcuz u do the same things she does 💀

@shirley444

Жыл бұрын

No this is it. As young women, we really have to start saying nah to society, and build up our own self confidence from within

As a skinny girl flat as a penny, it did suck going through the curvy body ideal period and feeling like I don't match that, but going back to the skinny ideal isn't a solution! Can we please celebrate all types of bodies and stop idolizing celebrities with specific body types?

@chidiogoikeh4550

Жыл бұрын

I think people really forget that skinny girls have been struggling with the beauty standard for the leat few years 😭💀 as someone who used to skinny (and black to top it off) it was difficult

@ziarahhh3004

Жыл бұрын

@@chidiogoikeh4550 im glad u mentioned this because being skinny in the black community was never the wave omg. Like they use to come for me cuz i had no ass like plz. But like the person above said, we should celebrate all bodies

@taedaya

Жыл бұрын

@@ziarahhh3004 I am thirding this as another black girl who’s skinny. It’s tough and strange because I don’t ever feel like I belong anywhere.

@sarabellaaa

Жыл бұрын

Same here, im not really skinny. But i have in no means a “bubble but” and i also felt pretty insecure most of the time. Hitting the gym exstensively. As a girl of black decent it’s hard to “compete” with the tick girls out there. But its okay i found the confidence in myself to shine with a but or no

@omgheather1

Жыл бұрын

I saw a comment somewhere that said something along the lines of "Society wants ⏳ skinny, not 🚪 skinny." And it's so true! Even if your body is trending (which is so gross to think about), you still have to look a certain way to be accepted and praised. Even if you fit society's standards naturally, you'll mostly get fetishized or called fake. It just sucks all around for everybody, so... Fuck it. Just do you. As long as you're healthy and happy, that's all that should matter now. ❤️

I’m terrified for young girls on tiktok. There are several different body checking trends that are meant to reward those who “pass the test” and ridicule those who don’t. Like “back profile check” or the filter that reverses your face to see if you’re symmetrical, etc. Its awful :(

@tertiaritus

Жыл бұрын

Can we just agree children and teens shouldn't be allowed on tiktok

@FreePalestine478

11 ай бұрын

I'm a teenager and I'm not allowed neither do I want tiktok it's dumb people putting their bodies online and expecting not to get sexulized even tho they know the world we are living in

@rynelic

Ай бұрын

Good thing its being banned

I'm suprised you didnt talk about the growing popularity of kpop and the want to be thin. I have been in the kpop community for years (as an African American) and have found myself YEARS ago having a mindset shift to wanting to be REALLY thin. And I think as the genre grows, the want to look like them, even if you aren't Korean, will grow.

@taopanda98

Жыл бұрын

SAMEEEE I am Mexican ( mixed Indigenous and Spanish ancestry). I am NOT thin as Kpop idols. In fact, many called me " fat" in the Kpop community:/

@7ccs350

Жыл бұрын

You need to look for influences from your ethnicity. Like race you can't change your genetics.

@singulariteas

Жыл бұрын

brooo kpop was literally so bad for my body dysmorphia when i was really into it and the way people talk about idols’ bodies seriously did not help. the amount of times fans will talk about how x or y’s body is ideal and the idols in question would always be people who were severely underweight and outright stated they were on dangerous diet plans.. it’s actually insane like i’m glad i’m much more divorced from that fandom now aside from liking a couple of groups because it was hell for my mental health lmfao

@peekarosieposie

9 ай бұрын

Lol right this whole thin fair skin era is coming from kpop

@jasmintea8825

6 ай бұрын

I think this has a huuuuuge influence

Maybe because I'm from Asia, but I don't think thin has ever gone away. Even ana has been here this whole time, just repackaged. Thin has always been the ideal because let's face it, that's what is attractive for majorities. It's not even about 'health is attractive', because being healthy size doesn't require one to have concave stomach, the 11 line abs, small wrists, very visible collarbones, weight 45kg no matter the height (those are all recent trends or obsession in Asia) or so on.

@user-nf1ei1gt8n

Жыл бұрын

hmmm i think in many asian cultures that type of thin IS what’s attractive to the majorities, however in the US i honestly think the majority of people here find more curvy women attractive, the marilyn monroe type body yk? i just don’t think it’s accurate to say thin, with the collar bones sticking out and the tiny wrists, is what’s attractive to the global majority. those are honestly specifically eastern asian body goals.

@shai17altamiranoanco77

Жыл бұрын

I am from a latino family and thwy always shamed me for being skinny, here they want you to have graceful curves and big breasts but i dont have any of them :c🙃

@thisisnotausernameXD

Жыл бұрын

I'm South Asian and on average, women are curvy. But skinny is definitely the trend. I was always made to feel inadequate in some way and often had trouble finding clothing that fit the way I wanted. I tried to not give it attention but the thought that I wasn't attractive was always in the back of my mind. Then I move to the US, find that I fit into a size M and get attention from people in a positive way. The number of friends I have who have always been trying different diets instead of generally eating and living healthy is absurd.

@kc-db6fg

Жыл бұрын

I think there’s a margin of ideal sizes between cultures but up until a point like I don’t think all the people saying their culture has opposing ideals are lying but I think they’re exaggerating a bit their culture might celebrate women with larger bottoms & bigger breasts more than those with thigh gaps & abs but that’s up until they’re actually plus sized in ways that aren’t deemed as desirable pretty much no where really celebrates women who are the exact opposite of conventional standards once those boobs & butts are accompanied by a equal or larger stomach it’s no longer attractive pretty much anywhere like I’ve looked up unconventional standards across the world many times & no where besides very niche fetish communities are making women like Tammy Slaton the beauty standard being beyond mid sized or skinny fat is not really the standard anywhere

@DefinitelyAnnie

Жыл бұрын

45???

I don’t think skinny was ever not “in”. Fat phobia is still a thing and was never not. Just because Kim K filled her ass with fat doesn’t mean skinny wasn’t desirable; her waist was still tinier than most other women could hope to achieve. It’s disgusting and I hate it, but I think we’re kidding ourselves to think skinny was ever not the desired trend.

@itsssb4863

Жыл бұрын

Ikr skinny has always been the standard

@princess555o4

Жыл бұрын

Not in the black community and some other colored communities

@noodle_png2693

Жыл бұрын

Skinny and skinny with a fat ass are two different things. There is more than just skinny and fat. But also skinny is typically the trend among white cultures, so I'm sorry but you're generalizing and erasing a lot when you say that we shouldn't think "skinny was ever not the desired trend".

@oliviac295

Жыл бұрын

Let's be real, curves were only celebrated when combined with an otherwise slim frame. I feel that even though diverse body types are more accepted and present in fashion than in any other time, it will never be as desired as skinny

@currybread5298

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

One thing to add about Kim's weight loss -- her seeking career legitimacy by changing her aesthetic. We all know how she got famous, and she capitalized on that by embracing her status as a sex symbol through hyper-focusing on her sexual characteristics. There's of course a conversation to be had about society's erroneous proximity of curviness to hyper-sexuality (re: racism, the jezebel archetype), but she made it work for her and propelled her whole family to stardom with it, even putting Khloe and Kylie on in the process. She was actively seeking ways to reinforce her sex symbol status... until she decided that she wanted to be more than that. She started all the businesses, she went to law school, she began championing prison reform -- she doesn't want to be a sex symbol anymore, she wants to be a business woman and a serious professional. Soooo she's gotta look the part by increasing her proximity to whiteness (re: racism, classism). That means a smaller body, less self tanner, lighter hair, etc. She'll still show skin in photos, but that's functionally just modeling now; the engagement with her instagram pics makes her money. It's just work, the same as her legal career and entrepreneurial ventures. And to be frank, she's cracked the code -- as an attorney myself, I see the way some female attorneys look at her as some kind of idol. To many, she's no longer a pseudo-porn and reality tv star, she's a powerful, ambitious, hot business professional -- the same way they would like to be. Grudgingly, I gotta give it to her -- you can say a lot of things about Kim, but you cannot say she's not a great strategist lol

@teddip8174

Жыл бұрын

That was incredibly well said. Very much agree with you.

@3u-n3ma_r1-c0

Жыл бұрын

this is my favortie comment for some reason. its well written, it flows, its interesting, its not too obscenely wordy and its not trying to be excessively smart, and its strangely realistic. it gives its examples, sums them up with a fairly easily to conclude statement, and uses that swiftly for the next phrase. i didnt have to reread anything just to get the gist, the small explanations of what some points mean makes it much easier to get the vibe of the comment, and the overall tone and point is realistic- unlike some other comments, which are like "can we all just celebrate our bodies" or whatever overly idealistic, very cushy sounding rhetoric is the easiest opposing equivalent to "curvy bodies r the only good bodies." in comparison, take my comment; my sentences are too long, im listing with no indication, i definitely mentioned the same points twice, I need to cut down with these commas, and I use big words that sometimes just make it harder to read my sentences, not easier.

@cat_bag_cat_bag

Жыл бұрын

Holy shit, I was NOT expecting this level of deep (⁠ʘ⁠言⁠ʘ⁠╬⁠)

@katgreer6113

Жыл бұрын

Exaclty. She knows what she's doing.

@American_negroid_woman

Жыл бұрын

Kris is a great strategist. She has been teaching her daughters as much as she can.

As a girl with IBS and other health issues, I'm very underweight and have to follow an extreme diet in order to be functional in my daily life. I have the "Bella Hadid body", we're even the same height. I get told almost everdy day that I "could be a model" and other women are telling me they are envious of my body. I'm like "I only look like this because I'm sick, you're healthy, you should be happy with yourself and live your life". It's very ironic because I'm envious of them, they can eat whatever they want, whenever they want and just live life without obsessing over meal plans every day.

@AbeliaScarlet

Жыл бұрын

I'm at the start of (I guess) similar health problems and can see my health getting worse despite all medication. Now I've been advised to try to get it under control by following this strict medical diet (and I'm supposed to add sport to it but I haven't figured out a way to eat enough under this diet to afford being active on top of it). When I talk about how constraining it is in everyday live, I usually get an answer in the form of "oh at least you are going to have a super healthy lifestyle and will look fit". Well, maybe. But at this point I'd prefer to not throw up all weekend just because I've been a bit to indulgent during the week...

@sarahdasilva1111

Жыл бұрын

Isn’t it funny how when we get what we “want” it usually isn’t how we want it… I am also thin because of a health problem. I eat carefully each day to prevent pain and it’s hard to gain weight. I don’t know what I would prefer - full control over what I would eat again but have yo-yo weight or have this health problem which keeps me thin 🤷🏻‍♀️

@ritaevergreen7234

Жыл бұрын

I know I shouldn’t be giving medical advice but I wanted to ask if you have low stomach acid that isn’t being properly addressed? Medications from my expirence don’t fix gut problems.

@sarahdasilva1111

Жыл бұрын

@@ritaevergreen7234 I have a gallstone which affects stomach acids. Changing my diet and taking supplements has helped immensely.

@meganmariesnyder5305

Жыл бұрын

@@sarahdasilva1111 I had gallstones because of genetics. I was getting crazy attacks when I was only eating a low fat and liquid diet. I ate less than 10 grams a fat a day and still getting crazy attacks. I dipped down to 105 at 5'5'. Had surgery after I ended up in the ER like 5 years ago, now wiegh 118... you are going to have to get that gallbladder removed some day. Sorry.. I did everything to avoid surgery, but couldn't take the pain anymore. It will just get worse ...

As a K-pop fan I think the rise in K-pop has definitely got a lot to do with the normalization of eds

@PRETTY2PINK

Жыл бұрын

OMG SAME!!!

@leavemeal0ne378

Жыл бұрын

@Dera Kioandria Williams what is "ghetto" about the Kardashians body.

@yaqiza

Жыл бұрын

@Dera Kioandria Williams define "ghetto"

@boredasf4856

Жыл бұрын

@@yaqiza fr

@fitzy-mar540

Жыл бұрын

Yess!! The amount of kids glamorizing idols bodies on social media is sickening. I've been watching and listening kpop for 2 years now and my feed recommending videos about "idols diets" or "skinniest idols" have somehow triggered insecurities in me. I'm an adult so I know I should stay apart from these type of content but seeing young girls commenting "I want their bodies" makes me afraid of them.

im so tired of our bodies being "trends", your body changes natural, or due to outside forces, but this doesn't mean that its okay for you to change it to keep up with current trends.

@dklee.01

Жыл бұрын

i know 😭 like is everyone not just drained already

@s-wo8781

Жыл бұрын

Wait until we hit the cyberpunk future when people are going to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to look like that celebrity with metallic skin and neon eyes.

@dklee.01

Жыл бұрын

@@s-wo8781 okay but the temptation of shiny metallic skin …. that’s tough i kind of want that

@florencembah2626

Жыл бұрын

📌

Maybe it’s bc my mom was 40 and fucking tired when she had kids, but luckily I never went through the whole mothers living vicariously through their daughters youthful thinness thing. By the time I was 11 and becoming more aware of my body she explained to me that my boobs may or may not grow as big as I’d like and while at some point I won’t look like a child anymore, it would be a long time before I felt like a “woman” and I sure as hell would never look like any other woman in particular. Everyone is built different. And while she had the bones and “bizarrely shaped ass of an Irish peasant built for trudging up hills with sacks of potatoes and rocks” (her words), I was always tinty and had “bird bones” (also her words) that made my baby fat and my pooch look more pronounced. In her age she had accepted that her body would never be the same as it was simply because it was too exhausting for her to constantly worry about that on top of raising near triplets without spousal support. Of course I still spent time picking apart my appearance because that’s what all girls do, but if I was ever in the bathroom or shower for too long my mom would always knock and say loudly, “you don’t have a belly, you have a uterus” and stop my obsession dead in its tracks. I think we could all stand to adopt her sensible laziness lol

@eeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyeee1864

Жыл бұрын

'you don't have a belly, you have a uterus' is 100% the funniest thing she could have said. I love your mum and will be sure to parrot those words at any girl or woman that expresses concern about her non-flat tummy in front of me. Myself included lol!

@marijamihailova7627

Жыл бұрын

Your mom is the realest. She told you exactly what we all need to understand ❤

@edkahh

Жыл бұрын

your mom truly sounds awesome! it's what every girl needs to hear. Sorry to hear your mom raised you all without spousal support, she sounds like a solid lady.

@jennyfer757

4 ай бұрын

“ you don’t have a pooch , you have a uterus “ 🥹🥹🥹🥹

I'm so glad I was narcissistic enough to be able to dodge this bullet. I was somewhat overweight in early middle school and I definitely felt the pressure to lose weight, but I dealt with it by deciding that no actually, I was the ideal body type and that society was just too backwards to recognize it. My best friend who had similar proportions developed a really nasty ED that she still struggles with to this day at around the same age.

@sym3428

Жыл бұрын

fuck yeah! you had the perfect attitude. best comment ever

@bored.1344

Жыл бұрын

Go girl !!!＼(◎o◎)／

@inert_cartha

Жыл бұрын

You weren't narcissistic, but confident! Congratulations 💞💞

@minaberric4069

Жыл бұрын

That’s not narcissistic at allll that’s how u should feel

@rebecca9949

Жыл бұрын

that's not narcissism, it's self love :)

I think your mention of your mother wanting to lose weight has more impact on this conversation. Our mothers of the later boomer/gen x generations were teenagers and young adults during the height of magazine culture and that becoming the driving force of toxic body standards. They were raised in their own version of tumblr culture and they still have lasting problems with it that they passed down to us. A lot of us have mothers that talk about wanting to be skinnier, mentioning our bodies in comparison to theirs, and putting intrinsic value on their and our bodies. The insecurities of mothers are often passed down to their daughters. It is no wonder the first couple generations bombarded with tiny bodies on magazine covers produced later generations even more seriously impacted by toxic body standards.

@louie3074

Жыл бұрын

I had a conversation with my mom (I’m a dude, but built similar to her) about body image & diet culture & all that and she mentioned that in the 90s girls were told to jump in front of a mirror naked. If anything moved, you kept dieting. Seriously. I can’t get over that. Teenage girls, critiquing their bodies for being living things that move around. I was lucky to grow up with supportive parents, but still ended up with body dysmorphic disorder, & I truly don’t think it would be any different if I didn’t have social media.

@MELLMAO

Жыл бұрын

I have almost exact body as my mom, but more hourglass. I have grown up hearing her say almost every day how she needs to lose weight, just a few kilos, just off stomach....and people have always told her how small she is, even today. Now she says she was very skinny in her 20s, 30s and 40s but I remember her hating her body even then. It really screwed up my body image and I still visit proana sites

@SpoonG

Жыл бұрын

I am the skinny daughter of two bigger parents. My mom has always been on crash diets, has always glorified thinness as virtue, and put me on my first diet at 13 (because I asked her, because I was getting "fat", i.e.: I had hit puberty). My dad has always been proud of his size, but he had to lose a lot of weight because of his health issues and now he feels ugly just because he looks like me. Turns out, I have always had celiac disease and was already malnourished from the start, my ED had only worsened the situation. Now I am recovering again from an ED flare I had in 2020 and feel quite healthy, but I always get mad whenever weight and diets are brought into our conversations in their terms.

@TinyGhosty

Жыл бұрын

@@SpoonG Congrats on your recovery, I hope you can keep it going. I understand recovering from ED is a long journey but it is still worth acknowledging and feeling proud of the wins. I am sorry you were affected by this at such a young age and had a health issue previously ignored. It is interesting in a bad way that thinness and dieting always seems to be more important than actual health, even if it is often packaged as a healthy thing. Being nourished and having energy is healthy, not dieting. I really hope the younger generations can break this cycle but unfortunately it seems like social media is going to keep it going for the vulnerable children that cause the algorithim to show it to them. Shadowbanning is not enough, people need to be banned entirely for that content. I wish you all the best of luck! One thing I try to remember when in recovery is that recovering is inherently rebellious. Rebel by eating until full and having energy and fighting against the mindset we are told we should be have.

@Bl4k3.

Жыл бұрын

This afffff my mother passed down her insecurities onto me. She has always complained about being fat (after 3 kids btw duh mom ur body wont be the exact same.) and got a boob job relatively young.

I was on my psychology class and somehow we ended up talking about the average size of jeans in adult women, all of these teenage girls (who are obsessed with these trends) said it was a 2, A TWO. Then, my teacher said that it was actually a 14 (im a 14 and i feel totally comfortable with it) and they said that was “huge” and they kept saying ew. 💀

@pleuriglosse8198

Жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry that happened! that seriously sucks. And in America (don't know which country you're in) the average size is between 18 and 20. It also sucks to know that those same girls a couple years back, when curvy was trendy, would have laughed about size 2 girls having no ass or something. As women/afab people, we are going to eternally go in and out of style... its so stupid.

@nicolesoto3658

Жыл бұрын

@@pleuriglosse8198 the funny thing is i live in America, didn’t know that was the actual average 😭

@pleuriglosse8198

Жыл бұрын

@@nicolesoto3658 yeah the average american woman is 5'4 and about 170 pounds

@IshtarNike

Жыл бұрын

@@nicolesoto3658 I think it takes most girls time to hit the average size. Some get there earlier than others. Of course there is plenty of variation, but teenagers tend to be skinnier than adults overall even if they themselves think they're fully grown.

@nicolesoto3658

Жыл бұрын

@@IshtarNike yeah ik that, it also has to do with height most of the times, taller girls may have larger jean sizes

me, who never left tumblr and enjoys it daily for the gifset and chill fandom interactions: what do you mean 'tumblr's back'!??

As a woman of 33 now, I spent my teenage years in that, tight gap, super low rise jeans, no fat on stomach whatsoever era. I had a bulimia for 10 years, since I was a 14 yo. Im almost 10 years bulimia free now. This whole "skinny" trend uprising is very triggering, not in a way that I would ever wish to look and feel that way again (its a hell on earth) but in a Im so fucking angry at human body ever being a trend way. To any young girl out there, just stay away from that shit, live your life best way you can, explore your inner realms, dont swallow your emotions, live them, but dont attach to them. Trends are fleeting.

It's so interesting how the Kardashians - who are now in their 40s - still have a hold on both millennial and gen z despite being of an older generation. Often times, generations seemed to be shaped culturally by those within their generation, its interesting how the Kardashians seem to transcend these boundaries. Also, love ur videos Madisyn! Thank you for everything you do!

@vespervictrola

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking about this as well during the video, how odd it is that they haven't "aged out" of relevance like so many celebrities before them. I'd almost say it's a testament to the modern era in rejecting ageism and misogyny, if it wasn't so exhausting and if the Kardashians didn't spend millions of dollars to stay looking young/hot/trendy.

@LoveAndSnapple

Жыл бұрын

It’s really something of a loop. On their own the Kardashians don’t have the power and “swagger” to stay relevant. So they aligned themselves with famous black men whom had a proximity to black women. Black women set the trends, the language, and overall pop culture and thus set the hamster wheel in motion for a consistent “feeder” of non-stop relevancy through their proximity to Blackness. There’s a reason why before she married Kanye most people looked at Kim as “take it or leave it” with most people on “leave it.” We had already had our Paris Hilton/Nicole Ritchie era so what else could she bring to the table? How about the selective desirability of Black bodies on a white body? There’s a reason why we call them “Culture Vultures” after all.

@lizmarie894

Жыл бұрын

Having kids of all generation (I.e Kendall and Kylie) definitely helped them stay relevant

@lorrella8571

Жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure the oldest millennials are in their 40s now

@freeloading_toad

Жыл бұрын

Bicth the Pete Davidson drama makes so much more sense now. Their age gap is the same between my mom and her youngest brother (my uncle) 🤮

The tumblr era thing has always been weird to me because since the day I created my tumblr acc it’s always just been about fandoms to me and I never knew about all the other shit that was also going down 😭

@pxndx7516

Жыл бұрын

Same fr. People are talking about 2014 tumblr being pro ED and stuff and i'm like, I was active in 2012-15 tumblr and all I remember is superwholock and Hetastuck LMFAOOO

@naolucillerandom5280

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's honestly so weird, isn't Tumblr supposed to not have a working algorithm like others? I was there and it was all Undertale fan comics and cat t-shirts because that's what I got in for.

@Karmabitchable

Жыл бұрын

I'm kinda glad I was in the superwholockotaku (insert everything else that comes to mind) fandoms sphere 😄 I'm sure that never seeing these types of posts made me a happier kid.

@alfiep3919

Жыл бұрын

any of y'all remember the Mishapocalypse of 2013

@maenad4147

Жыл бұрын

i could never catch up this tumblr ulture i remember all of my friends were using it but i couldnt adapt it for some reason so i cant relate it

the way kim has shapeshifted race over time is truly unmatched. deleted all middle-eastern-ness, added blackness, then subtracted blackness, added whiteness. most of the same can be said for ariana grande as well. also to ur point about armenia being in "caucasia," I think the important distinction here is the difference between race & ethnicity/heritage (& nationality). we lump people of many ethnicities or heritages together based on race, the same way people with the same heritage or ethnicity can be considered two different races based on visual presentation. add to that how race is a product of society and it also changes over time. what was once considered other can be absorbed into whiteness, like the way jews, Irish, Italian heritage was in the U.S. early mid 20th cent. and in kims case, underneath the appropriation (that is to say, if she were to not darken her skin many shades, get extreme BBLs or wear braids/other aspects of black culture), she would have been considered white-passing for decades now. i also think a lot of this shift is related to her entrance into high fashion and it's return to 90s aesthetics & body types (like u said: thinness, whiteness, grunge/punk/rave aest). she wants to wear 90s balenciaga, she cant do that with her 2010s body. ALSO one more thing: we see this shift now that she is a older, a mom, and all about her businesses and being a lawyer. and who are the most disrespected people in society? [older] black women. she wants power and whether consciously or unconsciously she knows that whiteness gets you power and respect whether you deserve it or not.

the fact people cannot be seen to enjoy food without being outright shamed for it by the media is the most disgusting thing Iv'e ever seen. DAMN.

Tumblr’s actually been here. We’re doing fine, with posts about how to help each other with our mental health, physical health, and artist showing diversity we never see on other social media sites. Living without an algorithm is amazing! I just hope those who are returning won’t disrupt what we have here.

@crimeny

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@jeannerose1970

Жыл бұрын

Dont promote tumblr. I dont want 2018 again, I need my little hellsite (affectionate)

@maddiem333

Жыл бұрын

for real! i never left

@Tina-fj4xo

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree, been using Tumblr since 2012 and its the only social media I still use. The algorithms pushed me away, and Tik Tok was a non-starter for that reason.

@xoch1717

Жыл бұрын

tumblr is the only social media I've been using the past 4yrs and it's completely different from how it was in 2014. I have such peace of mind knowing I won't see any influencer or celebrity on there unless I go looking for it! literally just girlblogging. my blog feels like my scrapbook :)

You know the beautiful thing about social media now a days is that trends only exist according to your algorithm. I don’t ever see Bella Hadid stans, skinny trends, or any of that. So when you say “ppl are obsessed with Bella Hadid” that’s just the ppl who feed into that algorithm. Also, I think this trend is trending with the yts more than anything. I love how certain groups of ppl can have trends that aren’t necessarily trans-ethnic. It really does allow you to miss some of these dumb and dangerous trends 😅

@tianalanise

Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY!! I deleted TikTok about 2 years at this point… I never ever see trends much less a part of them to feel bad. That app needs to be GONE!!

@dklee.01

Жыл бұрын

that is actually true :) i wish more people thought this way

@blinkur09mom

Жыл бұрын

Same! I didn’t even know this was a thing until I watched the vid just now. I like that at the end she says we are all aware of these things and we can allow that to influence us or not, it’s really OUR choice

@scarletsletter4466

Жыл бұрын

Algorithms try to ensure we only see the type of content we enjoy. I never see Bella Hadid or Kardashians, either. I see a lot of fitness content & art, which is fairly diverse. FWIW I think Kim looks as ridiculous with fake bleach blond wigs & overdone lipo as when she's blk-fishing with overdone BBL. Just bc a celeb changes up their look doesn't mean it looks GOOD on them. Most folks look most attractive when enhancing their natural features & dressing for their body type or whatever makes them feel good. So I hope curvy girls enjoy their high-waisted shorts & us petite types can wear low-rise or whatever makes us confident 💞

@jifij89

Жыл бұрын

exactly, i’m disconnected from social media so had no idea what was currently trending. my brain feels so much lighter not worrying about what other people think of my body

I'm determined to never let my daughter hear me say "I'm so fat," or "I need to lose weight." My mom was a personal trainer and even though she never said I looked chubby or anything, even just hearing her talk about her body in a negative light had a really big impact on me. Will my goal be enough to save my daughter from what I went through? No idea. But I think it's worth a shot.

@VanessaKim-sy6xg

5 ай бұрын

:) !!!!!! :)

@lani8722

4 ай бұрын

realllll my mom is a master trainer and married another master trainer so you can imagine everything i heard every :) single :) day :)

@michellelrobison

4 ай бұрын

@@lani8722 jeez. I can imagine. My dad was actively against healthy anything so that was a weird dynamic, but at least I had two perspectives. That's rough, I'm sorry!

I just came on here to say “ thin is in “ is such a false statement. Being thin never went “ out “ , it never went of away

Bella has spoken about her past food struggles before, if I’m not mistaken. I think this is more of a society’s problem than a Bella problem

@OoBIWIoO

Жыл бұрын

We have all seen Yolanda and how she talked to them about food. It would be no surprise she has one. The model industry is toxic too and most models struggle with an ED

@angel127_

Жыл бұрын

@@melc8226 finding this information has sent me into a hellish spiral

@littleleah310

Жыл бұрын

@@melc8226 surre

@alvaskyllerstrom

Жыл бұрын

@@littleleah310 i cannot tell if you're sarcastic or not

@littleleah310

Жыл бұрын

@@alvaskyllerstrom y'all beileve anything...

I needed to hear this. I'm almost 26 and I still struggle with accepting my body. As body trends change I lose whatever progress I made. It was refreshing to hear this deep dive.

@zephyrorona9196

Жыл бұрын

Delete social media and focus on loving you as you are. You are beautiful as you are, this is gonna sound mean but it’s not my intention: your never gonna fit the beauty standards because they are unobtainable and fake and they seriously don’t matter. I really hope n pray that you find love for yourself bc you deserve it 💗

@l-chlorine7919

Жыл бұрын

I’m also in my mid 20s (25) and it feels like we’ve been jerked around so much with body trends. As a kid everyone was supposed to be small and thin, and it was really hard on me as a tall, chubby kid. Then all of a sudden around mid to late high school everyone was supposed to be curvy in all the right places. Now that thin is supposedly back, I’m realizing how arbitrary it all is. All I can do is my best with what I have.

@rawiii5578

Жыл бұрын

Just focus on being healthy

The part about feeding the eating dissorder is very true. I remember being sick and a classmate told me that I was dangerously skinny. My dumb self was smiling from ear to ear being like «woow, you really think that? thankyou!». During my early path to recovery I was at a family bbq party. My aunt came up to me and said «I want to let you know that you look so much healthier. You are turning into a beautiful woman and im so happy for you». My sick self was sooo offended. I didnt let her know that, but the comment lingered in my mind for weeks after that and almost caused a relapse. Cause in my mind healthy meant fat, and beautiful meant curvy. This is almost 10 years ago now and my eating dissorder is a thing of the past. But for the people dealing with friends or family with ED, it is extremly important to be aware of your language. Because our mind is distorded and even the nicest words can be taken the wrong way and cause us to spiral into a dark place. Thank you for an insightfull video🙏🏽

Bella’s mother is a great example of how eating disorders start and perpetuate your what your taught. Mothers to daughters are the greatest influence for better or worse. I pray that each and every one of us women find ways to nourish ourselves and live a full and happy life.

"Will we ever be free?" Unfortunately, no. These trends will go on and on for multiple generations.

@Goat.Cheese

Жыл бұрын

To some extent you can be free...if you just don't give a crap about the body trends. I try to focus on how to make myself look the best with the body type I was given :)

@tyrreloneal5178

Жыл бұрын

@@Goat.Cheese and that's how we'll win!

talking from experience with trying to be thin and experiences with multiple EDs, and more importantly being really into the Kpop culture, I absolutely blamed the media and their unrealistic beauty standards.

@ML-tr1hz

Жыл бұрын

K-pop is so damaging. I say this as an ex fan. I spent my entire teen years avoiding an ED only to develop one in adulthood because I started following Blackpink. I've seen so many girls wanting Lisa's waist and wanting to try the IU diet, using K-pop girls as thinspo. It's 90s heroin chic for the modern era. I think the worst part is that in K-pop, dieting is so normalized. At least back in the day in the west most celebrities pretended to be "naturally thin" but K-pop celebs will just tell you flat out that they ate a banana every day and nothing else.

@gidol1469

Жыл бұрын

Nah the problem is in u yall for eating that, blaming media or those "kpop girls" is ur way of running out of ur responsiblity, by fixing ur self instead blaming others

@anapcm_

Жыл бұрын

@@gidol1469 Nobody is blaming the kpop girls, because not even them can keep up with the standard the industry demands, they are expected to look a certain way all the time, that's what I meant.

@link.2487

Жыл бұрын

@@gidol1469 Can you please read what they said two more times 💀

@dklee.01

Жыл бұрын

this!!

I feel so much empathy for Bella Hadid because she has said that she had a lot of issues growing up with self esteem due to her mother favoring Gigi. I mean what normal person would let their 14 year old daughter get it nose job That she ultimately ended up regretting because she changed her natural features so much. It's really sad too because even Kylie Jenner is looking older and older because of all the plastic surgery that she's had done over the years and she's not even 30 Edit: When you mentioned the conversation with your mom that struck a chord with me because I had to have a talk with my mom about how her and my grandmother constantly talking about how skinny they were when they got pregnant and how skinny They were when they were my age gave me a complex. At the beginning of this pregnancy I was having a lot of anxiety because I had not lost all the baby weight from my previous pregnancy and I knew throughout this pregnancy I was probably going to pass the 200 pound mark which is something I never thought would ever happen. I had always been skinny throughout my childhood and only gained significant weight with my 1st son So I had to talk to my mom about how her constantly pointing out how skinny she was when she got pregnant and how she only hit 200 pounds when she was 9 months pregnant with my brother and i was giving me a huge complex. She ended up breaking down and apologizing and since we've had a much healthier relationship when it comes to food and weight and things like that but it is definitely a generational curse.

As a person who recovered from a severe eating disorder, I wanted to mention that even though e.ds are very related to body image and diet culture it is an oversimplification to only blame trends, influential people, or beauty standards. Eating disorders can be much more connected to controlling something in your life and having obsessive-compulsive behaviors like counting calories and setting rules about food (restrictive or not). This behavior can become a coping mechanism for some people to try to deal with other emotions and things happening in their lives. The coping mechanism becomes compulsive and inescapable mixed with feelings of irrational fear (of gaining weight, of losing control of the set rules, etc). Sometimes not allowing yourself to eat can be a way of self-harming too. Simplifying things to "they were pressured to lose weight by society", "they wanted to fit the beauty standard" ignores the mental battles and the complexity of the illness. These might be an initial trigger but the reason why it develops into a more severe mental disorder is because of other emotions, fears, and trauma that are already present, not solely body image or weight. That is basically why a lot of people diet, or have a negative body image but never develop an eating disorder. I really enjoyed the video I just wanted to mention why the topics you mentioned are not that closely related to eating disorders. And sometimes developing an eating disorder has less to do with your satisfaction with the way you look and more to do with the satisfaction with your life, relationships, etc.

I was soooo embarrassed for that blonde haired girl who made that tiktok about Madison Beer. I remember seeing that video on my fyp two years ago and I thought she was gonna have a stroke. After her and Madison had a conversation she deleted the video and apologized. The past two years have been peak “let’s project our insecurities on Madison beer”. It was so gross, I felt so bad for her.

@4thdimensionasmr

Жыл бұрын

The intensity of it all was so hard to watch. I can be a really dramatic person, so I can see me in her, and that made the second-hand embarrassment reaction all the stronger for me. If I wasn't an "elder millennial," I for sure would have videos like that floating around of me.

@terezopez

Жыл бұрын

@@4thdimensionasmr I know! And for her to backtrack so quickly was a major indication that she was projecting.

@florencembah2626

Жыл бұрын

I has to pause that video & fight her in my head cause it was so ridiculous & Cringe, even if everything she was saying it true, why Scream? She said in the clip it's bad for young girls but I feel as though the insecurities was seeping out of her

@sadieotero7600

Жыл бұрын

@@terezopez what is the tiktok called, i want to watch it lol

@peachesandcream22

Жыл бұрын

@@4thdimensionasmr I'm not an "elder millennial", I was born in 2002 but this TikTok video also made me cringed. So much unreasonable hate and mysoginistic phrases where there. Idk why some women are so obsessed with other women's appearances more than with their own. If they feel insulted watching adult women living their own lives, then it's THEIR problem. They should stop throwing tantrums for nothing, start growing as a person and mind their own business. Hate is bad for psychological health.

Oh god when I was 10 Tumblr really enabled my ED now at 18, I'm thoroughly afraid for the children.

@pptenshi3900

Жыл бұрын

(this is quite ramble-y so I apologize for that💀) I understand that. I’m still quite young and with the onset of social media and the normalization and fetishization of things like eating disorders on apps like twitter and tiktok, eating disorders and excessive dieting are things that are just normal to people my age, and it’s scary knowing there are kids my age and younger who are going through the same things. However I do think that videos like this are doing their job and advising children to stay away from that stuff. Along with things like talking about in school with teachers when necessary, teamfes like these are surprisingly manageable. I had been starving myself for a few weeks by one point in the summer, and seeing people on social media say things that made them sound glamorous or healthy really made it hard to overcome. Having a safe space in comment sections like this or with a teacher at school really does help, so I think we’re on a path which can in fact, create a safe space where people can heal from things like eating disorders. the next step is to diminish the root cause of them I believe.

@0912sooli

Жыл бұрын

Ive been on Tumblr but only for yaoi and kpop lol

@ikilledeminem3520

Жыл бұрын

what were you doing on tumblr at 10??!!

@jifij89

Жыл бұрын

tumblr at 10???? oh my lord

@skylerdevinraleigh3447

Жыл бұрын

@@ikilledeminem3520 I went there for the Harry Potter memes, left it at 12 with an ED LMAO

I just ate my whole meal while watching. Not giving the ED any chance anymore!! Thank you so much for the video

I remember trying to stop eating as a young girl, but it didn't last very long. But I was influenced by Jpop and Kpop at the time, not Western culture. I think "thin is in" has a lot to do with the rising popularity of Kpop in North America and the influence these idols have on self image. I would love to see you take a deep dive into this new era of "thinspo"! Love you!

@saguaroK

Жыл бұрын

if you think about it it's make a lot of sense

@f4wneyes

Жыл бұрын

THIS! i don't want to put the blame on the groups that i listened to, but kpop in general and it's beauty standards/diet culture was absolutely a leading cause for my unhealthy relationship with food...

@sanaa.3216

Жыл бұрын

Hmmm

@shasha3435

6 ай бұрын

anime was the one thing that came close to making me wanna get skinnier in middle school, despite already being so… but I didn’t get far with that bc I really liked food 💀

“She’s converting her body from a mcmansion to a tiny home in Seattle” I died😭

Your French teacher is the sweetest for pulling you aside to tell you that. Most teachers would dismiss that like “it’s not my job to worry about that girl”

@simplykathrynrebeca

Жыл бұрын

Ça va bitch??? 😩💞✨

@haeriinbestgirl

Жыл бұрын

@@simplykathrynrebeca non je souffre-

as someone who’s been struggling to recover from an Ed for the last three years, this is all so heavy on my mind constantly.

@jennyfer757

4 ай бұрын

You’ve got this girl ❤

@pipsli

4 ай бұрын

@@jennyfer757 thank you love 🖤

I can’t imagine how pressure bella must feel as the internet has chosen her as this new it girl of thinspiration

It's funny how not too long ago people said Bella looked too scary

I had a Tumblr during it's most hyped era and one word defines: sadness. The purest, deepest, hurtful sadness everywhere everyday. The saddest songs, the saddest texts, American horror story everywhere and every kind of toxic romantic movie/TV show reference would trend on those days. It was gray. I remember deep diving on really sad texts and writing a lot of them as well, feeling mixed about how I was expressing myself and getting better at writing was great but also feeling so, soo sad about it. Didn't had my heart broken, didn't go through any traumatic experience at the time, I have a good family in a peaceful home but I wrote so sad things that I didn't even know I could be able to. Thank God I went to college and eventually left the site but to this day I feel bad about remembering the things I wrote.

@oliviabasile1439

Жыл бұрын

Literally this^^^!!

@sarahdasilva1111

Жыл бұрын

Tumblr made “being sad” cool

@jessicavandervelde3067

Жыл бұрын

I remember I also had tumblr around this time, and I was only 13. It’s so fucked up because my family was amazing, and I remember wishing I had family issues like the other people on tumblr because then I could be sad like them. So messed up

"ça va b*tch, are you good?" 💀💀💀 I died and resuscitated it was hilarious On a more serious note, this video is a diamond and I love it, thank you for sharing this!

@romanceoba5524

Жыл бұрын

ouais grave..lmao

Me on Tumblr at 15: Depression is so cool and edgy Me in 2023 at 27: I gotta take 5 different pills to not cry the entire day Just for making me think of this, you get my subscription.

The comment about moms being obsessed with how small they were at whatever age is so so important. I didn't realize it was something they just said. It really is generational, and for a long time I let my mom turn me into a product of the "if only I could loose 10 pounds " My battle with anorexia probably started around 12-13, I'm now 26 and in active recovery. I'd love to say I'm recovered, but some days it's very loud and rearing its head. Thank you so much for this video, the last line about taking back our own bodily autonomy was so needed.

@samanthaschumacher615

Жыл бұрын

I feel you. Same with grandmothers. It’s honestly so sad when you consider how much time we spend obsessing over our weight and thinking life will be better, we are more valuable, etc. if we were just smaller. I’ve heard something like girls in kindergarten start considering themselves “fat”. We miss out on living what short time we have on this earth by letting these thoughts consume us. I don’t have anything profound to say about how we fix this, but it always gets me when I hear my mom talk about herself negatively and then watch my grandmother do the same. I hope we can break this curse for our future daughters.

I think there's three more factors that play an important role in the thin body coming back as a trend : Kpop, Balletcore, and Gen Alpha. Because firstly, K-POP is bigger than ever and girls like Wonyoung or the Balckpink girls ( two of which have clearly stated they have abnormally fast metabolisms mind you) are being looked to by girls my age who want to look like them, even though most of us know that companies, when their idols aren't naturally thin, force their idols on diets ( hell, they don't even have to be forced anymore, Felix of SKZ WILLINGLY went on a very concerning diet to the point where his members were concered about him, and they still are) Also, balletcore is coming back big time, which means whiteness AND being skinny. Loads of former ballet dancers are talking online about their rude teachers, but people love the ballet aesthetic of small, minimalistic, and cozy fashion that they're ignoring the bigger issue which is the exclusivity of ballet and the fact that only certain body types are really even allowed in. Lastly, Gen Alpha, because the younger kids from Gen Z and the older kids of Gen Alpha are finally old enough to start caring about how they look and it's not great. The eldest Gen Alpha kids are 12 which is RIPE for insecurities and EDs, so they're basically replicating the trends that older kids of my generation made popular back in 2014, I mean what prepubescents kid wants to be "thicc" or "sexy" because they don't fully care about that yet, instead they wanna look dainty and pretty like the princesses on TV, and counteract the weight they'll gain in puberty.

@awts..7954

Жыл бұрын

replace balletcore with coquette and you are right

@hectzen23

Жыл бұрын

i agree, but i'm pretty sure the majority consensus is that Gen Alpha kids were born in 2012 and later, so they would be 10. gen alpha and gen z are still old enough to care about their looks so much, which worries me

@allthingaialf

Жыл бұрын

@@awts..7954 exactly, ballet in itself isn't bad , it's the culture that surrounds it And just because a dance style has a bad part of it doesn't mean we should stop wearing it

@lara_ballerina

Жыл бұрын

with the ballet thing... I agree it's very white and body type selection. depending on where you go you can face a toxic environment. I have a friend who did ballet and quit because at five they were judged harshly for having the wrong body type. however in my experience (although I am a white female with an ideal ballet body type, so my experience may not be valid) at my current ballet school weight and size is not commented on and neither is race. and I'm glad to see more inclusivity in the ballet world. I saw a ballet last night and there was a wider range of ethnicity than in the past, hopefully we get to see more dancers of colour in the future ❤️❤️

I love the way you styled your hair for this video!! The space buns look super cute, the pointy-ness makes them look a bit like cat ears and i adore that :)

Speaking about the alleged Bella Hadid eating disorders, can we talk about the Kardashian sisters in their shows and social media content they always appear in the act of "chewing" /eating food but in reality, they are not chewing anything they are fake eating. It feels like I am the only one who notices this 😭

girl i'm still battling with ed in my mid 20s because of the tumblr era and seeing that it's coming back scares the hell out of me and makes me so sad and sick thinking about the younger generations that are going to be impacted as i was....

@louie3074

Жыл бұрын

I’m proud of you for still fighting!!

@derpwadder

Жыл бұрын

Just live your life. Don’t give these trends the power to destroy you.

@star.283

Жыл бұрын

you are beautiful❤

As an old white dude, I really appreciated your Paramore video. Sorry, that it didn't took off as it should. KZread is a great place to get insights and new perspectives from people of different age, gender etc. than mine.

@berrybabe7979

Жыл бұрын

that's a really lovely way of looking at it

You put so much into perspective... rather than being mad at trends resurfacing, we each have power to be happy without them 🌠

i really appreciate your take on this girl! everyone should see this. when you mentioned the situation with your teacher i remembered that literally the same situation happened to me around probably the same time! so glad this phase of my life is over and i can only say it with you: take the power back!!!

i love the racial aspect of weight by societal standards, lots of ppl make the “thin is trendy again” observation, but the racial aspect is so true and never talked about!!!

LMFAO Tumblr can only wish to be back without corn 💀

@Emarie468

Жыл бұрын

Facts HAHHAHA

@mohasalmedeh2567

Жыл бұрын

What's corn ? Just asking

@justine4581

Жыл бұрын

I can assure you it's still there just not videos 💀💀💀

@internet-gf

Жыл бұрын

@@mohasalmedeh2567 adult content

@stargirlabi_111

Жыл бұрын

@@justine4581 yup

this is such a good video omg!! i’ve been thinking abt this topic for a while now, and how certain trends keep coming and going over the past few decades. thank you for making a video about this! 💘

I ate a huge burrito while watching this video 😌 It’s taken a looooong time, but keeping my body strong & healthy is more of a priority to me than how other people may perceive my body.

@geohatz4838

Жыл бұрын

Love this 😍😍

My cousin is in grade 9 right now and is going through some really hard times with eating, she’s not herself anymore and she refuses to let people talk to her about it, and in some ways the opposite of what I was in grade 9 physically and personality but very much the same in clothing and self image. I don’t know how it happened, but seeing that skinny is back is making a lot of sense to me now. I just hope she will be okay

@liaasage

Жыл бұрын

I hope she's getting help and support that's horrible. The pressure on young children is insane! As a teenager myself I can feel these pressures on me and everyone around me. It's really unfortunate that young people are getting all these standards drilled into their head.

As a teen who's on Tumblr like 24/7 "Pro ana" is def back, but instead of black and white screenshots of that girl being like "I didn't eat for three days to be lovely", it's more of those coquette accounts posting very skinny girls and being like oh to be skinny, or posting their weight and calorie intake (also recently a pro ana coach started to follow me and it's so fucking disgusting that those accounts exist) but anyway it's very damaging to my mental health lol

@elodiep8337

Жыл бұрын

Take a break, look at what you are able to do in your body! It's better to be lively that dead and light weight or sick af (coming from a nurse)

@saar-kb1gl

Жыл бұрын

I was just about to comment this. On Instagram it’s different because they’re less obvious I would say (most of the times). You get pro ana vibes from those posts but you can’t put your finger on why. Then you have those ppl who straight up say “Hot girls don’t eat/hot ppl are skinny”. I’d suggest blocking that pro ana coach, taking social media breaks/limiting your time on there or muting those topics. Stay strong

@princessbabe1313

Жыл бұрын

The coach is a pervert pedo fetishist block and report

@lolastoll4788

Жыл бұрын

@@princessbabe1313 yeah I already did I think

@hannahjackson6625

Жыл бұрын

Delete all your social media babe!! You will feel so much better

Your videos are so necessary. Just love how you aproach important themes without being extreme, it’s just so reasonable. ❤️

Not gonna lie,I felt prettier in the 2000's,I am thin and most importantly I have no lips (many 2000's stars didn't have much either). I just wish features being seen as trends would just stop in general cause honestly it's so tiring for ALL of us to go from feeling beautiful to feeling irrelevant every ten years.

I think toxicity in the body positive community has also swung the pendulum back to diet culture. It's an endless cycle.

people from the post-soviet states aren't really considered white in the 'western european' sense since a lot of those people are usually ethnic minorities in places like russia and the rest of europe it's fair to say that armenians, georgians, etc. are caucasian as a matter of geographical fact but on a sociopolitical level most of them wouldn't consider themselves 'white' in their own countries or within the borders of the former USSR but in america it's easy for them to assimilate into the organ of whiteness

@synkronized

Жыл бұрын

100% agree

@serinab

Жыл бұрын

I'm Armenian myself and I would consider myself more closely related to Middle Easterners than white people, so MENA (Middle Eastern & North African). But really race is all just a social construct and the black/white/asian/hispanic/etc. categories do not represent the real world and its more mixed categories

@sephfaraj8480

Жыл бұрын

@@serinab Thanks for your perspective as an Armenian person. It's a little funny to me what you've said, though, because I'm MENA and we are considered white in the US (maybe other places too?) but absolutely do not have the same white privilege as those with European heritage. But it puts us in a weird position because folks wanna point to the fact we're classified as "caucasian" to say we're not POC, don't experience bias because of our ethnicity, etc.

i loved this video and your take on diet culture. i’ve never had an ED but i was someone who was traumatized at a young age by diet culture and this was refreshing to hear 💗

@Justkuzzi

Жыл бұрын

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Just wanted to say how happy I am that you’re on this platform. This video and message are both great. ✨

Bro the thigh gap had a hold on me for years. I’m working out now and my thigh gap is gone, learning to accept that my size is part of what I look like, not my entire identity

To be fair, at this point, Armenian people have been through a shit-ton of historical struggle that they might not as well be 'white' in a privileged way like how Europeans were/are racist to Polish and Irish people. Hell, every 'white' demographic in the Caucasus region has been through a lot of shit (and still is with Russia and past ethnic conflicts breathing down their necks)

@serinab

Жыл бұрын

agreed

@sephfaraj8480

Жыл бұрын

Yup. Folks like myself from the Middle East and North Africa are considered "Caucasian" but are certainly not beneficiaries of white privilege in the same way as folks with European ancestry. Seems like a similar thing.

The withering away part with your teacher caught me cold. Made me shed a tear or two. Too relatable. Good video!

26:00 It's trippy how Madisyn talks about how somebody being concerned about her weight actually buoyed her spirits, because just the other day I was having a video appointment with my psychiatrist, and she said I looked more gaunt, and I had the exact same reaction. I have been spending the last couple of weeks watching videos about fat acceptance, and what I'm finding is that while I'm generally accepting of other people's body types, I continue to be critical of my own. Ironically, that pro-thin mentality goes DEEP.

27:43 the pro ana comunity comeback is also connected to kpop (and as an entiryty the hole k entertainment industry, just look at that girl from squid gam that got idk how many MILLION of follower in a day) giving the girls new thinspo in my opinion

You made a comment towards the end about mom's being competitive/comparing themselves against their daughters. I think it's an interesting topic you should explore for a future video. I think we all have had a comment or two, or several, where moms project onto their children (mostly daughters) or do the whole 'when I was your age I was det det det' as if to make themselves feel better by putting their own daughters down, and how much damage they may be causing their children.

@naolucillerandom5280

Жыл бұрын

Agree. If I hear my mom assuming something new I'm doing is for money or public praise one more time I'm just gonna give up on life.

I absolutely agree with you. The amount of love and attention I got for losing weight is insane. “Keep it up” in my head just read “ keep starving yourself”

this is my first time watching this channel but i love her honesty on the struggles she’s been through regarding these subjects and she makes me want to be more educated on these topics. i think these sorts of channels are very very important especially for younger people to see. so thank you 🤌🏼

I feel like alot of the "skinny trend" has been influenced by the popularity of kpop in the US. It's very normalized in kpop to see extremely skinny idols. Alot of these idols very obviously have Ed's, for example Wonyoung from the girl group IVE, and IU has even came out about recovering from and ed. It's to a point where people with average body types are shamed. Recently there's been alot more leeway with diets, but people still want to look like these idols who are super skinny

@no-thanks

Жыл бұрын

Who ?

Caucasian and white are not the same, when people say caucasian they mean european but europe and caucasus aren't the same, blame the education system

@cmlkhf

Жыл бұрын

the fact that i'm european and didn't know about this difference until one or two years ago is so embarrassing 💀 now i always try to correct people so that more people know about it

@user-bo2gl5ln6c

Жыл бұрын

@@cmlkhf it could happen because of following everything american on the internet, i used to be there too

@cmlkhf

Жыл бұрын

@@user-bo2gl5ln6c it's not just that, i grew up hearing the word "white" and "caucasian" being used interchangeably so i think most people in my country don't know that they mean different things :/

Yes you hit the nail on so many of these topics. We as a society, consumers have so much more power than we think we do. Tumblr was a great/horrible thing for me during my middleschool/highschool days were my depression was at my peak. It was great bc it made me feel less alone but it also fueled all my demons, it was so bad. And yes let’s take the power back. We can and we should, I know it’s easier said than done however we can though. Anyone going through a rough time rn hope you take care of yourself today

You are so eloquent and well spoken, cant wait to see what you do next!!

Old Tumblr was actually my inspiration why i looked up to the grunge outfits and aesthetic. Also, what i don't like about old Tumblr, ED or thinspo is literally everywhere back in that day. :/

When you said mental illness is not fun I smiled and said preach because having mental illness is so fucking draining and it takes you to a dark place and sometimes it takes all the strength you have to get out of it. Personally I don’t give a shit about trends and im kinda happy with my body still working on it but getting there. Be you and work on you so you can be happy with you. Very well done on the video, explained all of this perfectly.

Seeing you smile and talk about being praised about your past eating disorder is so relatable. I do the same thing. As much as we have healed to no longer put ourself thru those things we put ourselves thru we still feed off that validation. Eating disorders are forever. The mindset never leaves. I think back on the days where I would work out for hours every day and then only eat a handful of carrots or broccoli. Taking my food to the bathroom and having my own munching parties. Taking photos every week to see what the changes are with my body. We maybe nourished these days but our brains are still stricken with these mindsets.

Loved the video and especially the conclusion. idk how you video essay people articulate and make such good impactful videos.

@Justkuzzi

Жыл бұрын

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I'm bulimic, it's been "good" for a few years now but EDs just never leave, sometimes they just come back to torment you and then maybe go away if you try your best to take it out of your mind. Lately I've been feeling awful about my body and what I eat, just yesterday I kept thinking how today I wasn't going to eat as a way to get back on my "healthy weight" lol but I think this video hit me with the reason 😅 I've probably been too much into social media, better get out of it for a while until my mind gets better again. And I'm 28 lol not even a "young girl"

@Mintysaur

Жыл бұрын

Same, the thoughts are kinda like a mosquito constantly buzzing around you that you've mostly learned to ignore but it doesnt exactly go away imo

Remember when that time Yolanda told Gigi to eat half of an almond.

@abigailh7715

Жыл бұрын

Lol and just one bite of her birthday cake 🤭

@aporue5893

Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry,WHAT NOW?! that's craziness!

@won33540

Жыл бұрын

@@abigailh7715 i know her mom is crazy 🤣

Honestly the best social commentary vid I've seen this year. Absolutely love your content.

@Justkuzzi

Жыл бұрын

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this is so well done! thank you! you have added nuance i think a lot of people have missed

I'm still on Tumblr because it's a very chill place for fandoms now but it's algorithm is still a big problem, lately it has been recommending me random disgusting pro-ana pro-ed posts and while I'm ok, I'm 25 and I have never had an ed so I can just report/block the person and ignore the post, I can't imagine what's going to happen if an impressionable teen finds this kinds of posts. And of course tumblr refuses to solve this problem

@tannenbaum6092

Жыл бұрын

If you get the unwanted recommendations on your dashboard there's ways to turn off those, so it will be just stuff the people you follow post/reblog. If it's the explore/in your orbit or whatever it's called sections then blocking/reporting is the only thing you can do afaik unfortunately

I'm really afraid of the clothing trends will change as well. I only see crop tops in stores in these days and if they start selling only low rise jeans, I'll have to wear a potato sack 🥲

@thesevenkingswelove9554

Жыл бұрын

Right? The only good clothes there are all crop tops which I don't want to wear

@_daturaa

Жыл бұрын

i hate crop tops. twice the price, half the shirt

firstly, I love you! Thank you for talking about these topics & shining light on extremely important issues that affect so many people's self esteem & body image. You are amazing! 🥰

I'm not sure that thinness ever went away as the beauty ideal... I think it was always an accepted form of beauty alongside the trendy Instagram aesthetic. Maybe it's because I'm 25, and my friends and I grew up with the tumblr aesthetic, but it seems that almost everyone around me idolizes thinness. Kim K may have popularized the insta body online, but I don't see that reflected in real life where I live.

I totally agree, be skinny is already in and it all started with the clean girl, and her damn green juices. btw love the vids and just happy to be early

Growing up in the 2000s and remembering how much this all affected me makes me scared for the kids and preteens of right now, not for myself. I'm an adult now, I'll be fine, but this stuff really affects kids/preteens no matter how much you try to tell them it's just a trend. Telling a 12 year old "it will go out of style in 10 years!!" feels like an eternity to them because it's basically their whole life, and seems like it will never go away. The body image issues followed me all the way through college even though the trends had changed by then, so it makes me really concerned for the super young people now. Teens are still affected but at least they're old enough to remember the previous trends and to have witnessed the change happen

this video was amazing, and thank you so much for talking about our shared responsibility as consumers!!!